| 01:47 |
solshark |
Hello all. I have very difficult for me task. I need create site with special feature: create simple sites in "hands-off" mode. User just select in FE on the simple form template, input login and password and get site in my typo3 installation. It's possible? I want automatic creation site documents, folders for tt_news and tt_products and grant needed permission for user. |
| 06:51 |
doood |
hello how do i get over to drupal support i typed /join #drupal-support |
| 07:21 |
Doloana |
Hello, I've made a new clean installation of typo3 and I'm getting the error "Cannot find configuration. This file is probably executed from the wrong location." I think is something with the tslib path and about the localconf.php path. Does anybody have any idea about what to do? |
| 07:38 |
Doloana |
No awnsers? |
| 07:39 |
elbart |
hi |
| 07:45 |
Doloana |
hello ¡ |
| 07:50 |
Doloana |
Hello, I've made a new clean installation of typo3 and I'm getting the error "Cannot find configuration. This file is probably executed from the wrong location." I think is something with the tslib path and about the localconf.php path. Does anybody have any idea about what to do? |
| 08:02 |
Doloana |
Hello, I've made a new clean installation of typo3 and I'm getting the error "Cannot find configuration. This file is probably executed from the wrong location." I think is something with the tslib path and about the localconf.php path. Does anybody have any idea about what to do? |
| 08:38 |
PaulLS_ |
Good morning.. could anyone point me in the proper direction to enable me to delete pages and their subpages in one step. Right now, when I attempt to delete a page with subpages, I get an error and have to delete them all individually. |
| 09:46 |
maniacxs_ |
Hi, i am trying to create a new menu with typoscript. I want to use flexform_getfield to get the TV fields for the pages shown currently in the menu. But how do i put the flexform_getfield together with the menu, so it gets visible? http://phpfi.com/222048 |
| 09:47 |
maniacxs_ |
is this possible what i am trying to do? |
| 12:19 |
brain-xy |
anybody alive? :) |
| 12:41 |
Denyerec |
Greetings |
| 12:47 |
Denyerec |
morning ries |
| 12:50 |
Ries |
Denyerec: normally I have to do that around this hour :D |
| 12:54 |
ceed |
heyhey |
| 12:56 |
uschi_ |
morning Denyerec and Ries and ceed :) |
| 13:00 |
Ries |
Hey uschi and ceed |
| 13:36 |
Denyerec |
hey ceed |
| 13:36 |
Denyerec |
I saw the response on the mailling list BTW about the content linking - DOH :) |
| 14:34 |
ceed |
Denyerec: bugger, eh? |
| 14:34 |
ceed |
Denyerec: still confuses me that it works as expected (list mode) in the Live Workspace |
| 14:48 |
ceed |
show ;) |
| 14:48 |
Ries |
ceed: when it's ready :) |
| 14:48 |
Ries |
I am still coding... |
| 14:48 |
Ries |
it works a bit different from newlogin box and simular boxes |
| 14:48 |
Ries |
When it works I would like you to test it. |
| 14:54 |
brain-xy |
hey.. somebody is alive :D |
| 14:57 |
ceed |
sure ries |
| 15:15 |
brain-xy |
has anybody an idea how i could do this? http://phpfi.com/222147 |
| 15:17 |
uschi |
do what? |
| 15:17 |
brain-xy |
i want to give each record an wrap.. and in this wrap i need the headline of each record wrapped in the second row of that table |
| 15:19 |
uschi |
morning pulponair :) |
| 15:20 |
uschi |
somehow i still do not understand |
| 15:20 |
pulponair |
uschi: i got up early today ...by way of an exception ;) |
| 15:21 |
uschi |
right, the day is nearly gone, i just realise this |
| 15:21 |
uschi |
shit, i do not get anything done these days |
| 15:22 |
pulponair |
so you are the nasty "stay up all night"-guy this time ;) |
| 15:23 |
brain-xy |
uschi.. you're not alone ^^ |
| 15:24 |
pulponair |
brain-xy aka "the song lyrics quoter" ;) |
| 15:25 |
uschi |
as it is now, you will get a lot of crap markup, brain-xy |
| 15:25 |
uschi |
yes |
| 15:25 |
uschi |
this is because you made 10.value |
| 15:27 |
brain-xy |
:P |
| 15:28 |
brain-xy |
what? .. how? |
| 15:28 |
brain-xy |
well.. now i get nothing but the normal content wrap in the table |
| 15:28 |
pulponair |
uschi: how would you translate "leistungen" ? i mean those kind of "leistungen" which are usally accouted to bids and bils? |
| 15:28 |
pulponair |
services? |
| 15:28 |
pulponair |
activities? |
| 15:31 |
brain-xy |
pulponair services |
| 15:32 |
pulponair |
brain-xy: yes ...probably |
| 16:07 |
max_muetze |
hello, i need some help with tw_rssfeeds again.. is anybody using this? |
| 16:11 |
max_muetze |
noone? |
| 16:15 |
Denyerec |
I think I might have |
| 16:15 |
Denyerec |
is that the extension that pulls remote feeds onto your site? |
| 16:18 |
max_muetze |
yes, i solved the problem :) i mean this: http://www.typo3.christianeiselt.de - right frame |
| 16:21 |
max_muetze |
but i think you can help with the next step: i need to place this direct in the template |
| 16:22 |
Denyerec |
The rightframe is images |
| 16:22 |
Denyerec |
Pulled from RSS ? |
| 16:22 |
max_muetze |
yes, right |
| 16:23 |
max_muetze |
it take some time to set the right switches for displaying the images |
| 16:23 |
max_muetze |
first there was only the title.. |
| 16:24 |
max_muetze |
i like to have it on every single page so i have to place this plugin into the template, right? |
| 16:26 |
brain-xy |
max_muetze .. either set it by typoscript in a subpart or marker or copy it from your root page to all others.. |
| 16:27 |
max_muetze |
i would like to do this with typoscript but i am not very familar with ts yet.. can you provide a newbie tutorial or sth like this for this? |
| 16:28 |
max_muetze |
no, stop.. i will do it by copying.. so i have the possibility to hide it on several pages... |
| 16:28 |
max_muetze |
thanks for the explanation |
| 16:45 |
brain-xy |
anybody has a checklist for tt_news? :P |
| 16:51 |
zatmania |
to make it works ? |
| 16:52 |
Ries |
brain-xy: the documentatino may be? |
| 16:53 |
brain-xy |
i did everything right.. IMO.. :P |
| 17:10 |
Stasik |
hi |
| 17:10 |
Stasik |
have a problem with clear: both and css |
| 17:11 |
Stasik |
firefox does not display the first div properly |
| 17:12 |
Stasik |
http://stasik.mine.nu:1985/typo3/index.php?id=39 |
| 17:12 |
Stasik |
all the new items are equal |
| 17:13 |
Stasik |
just the first div has this big gap |
| 17:16 |
Stasik |
somebidy around? |
| 17:26 |
Ries |
ceed: finally complete login process works... No the registration part (which is a bit easer) |
| 17:35 |
neonide |
hello fellow ts geeks |
| 17:37 |
Denyerec |
ries I have to ask |
| 17:37 |
Denyerec |
why write another login form? |
| 17:38 |
Ries |
Denyerec: Hmmmm good question.... |
| 17:38 |
Ries |
Denyerec: see PM... |
| 17:39 |
Ries |
Denyerec: Main reason is that the workflow I need is to different from what loginbox or fe_userregistration can give me |
| 17:39 |
Ries |
also I need email addresses as usernames, and not usernames |
| 17:40 |
Ries |
Denyerec: Mine is also much more web2 isch |
| 17:58 |
ipseos |
does anyone here have any experience with installing graphicsmagick into Windows enviroment? |
| 18:00 |
zatmania |
no sorry |
| 18:01 |
Ries |
ipseos: if there is an installer for windows, just install it |
| 18:01 |
Ries |
and point typo3's to it's directly... |
| 18:01 |
Ries |
make sure that permissions are set correcty... quite a lot of windows users are struggeling with permissions latly |
| 18:01 |
zatmania |
or install an ll in one pack with apache, mysql, Im .... |
| 18:02 |
Ries |
zatmania: that's one if teh LAME pachakes, isn't it? :) |
| 18:02 |
ipseos |
i managed to install graphicsmagick into win 2003, along with ghostscript etc.. but i am having some issues in getting typo3 to pick it up |
| 18:03 |
zatmania |
Ries, i prefer develop on my freebsd server or on a linux server :D |
| 18:03 |
ipseos |
i'll see what i can find out about the permissions |
| 18:05 |
PaulLS_ |
is there a way to directly link to an external link (versus a redirect)? |
| 18:05 |
PaulLS_ |
i.e. a link in the menu that points to an external page not kept by typo3 |
| 18:06 |
PaulLS_ |
right now, I added a page which is an "External link" however that just redirects id=pageid to the actual url. I'd like to skip that step if possible. |
| 18:17 |
Ries |
ipseos: Just set the correct path and it should work |
| 18:19 |
ipseos |
my current path is C:\Program Files\GraphicsMagick-1.1.7-Q16\ but when i enter this into the search for it box, it says it checked but nothing found |
| 18:19 |
ipseos |
within that directory you can find the gm.exe |
| 18:19 |
ipseos |
i am thinking i may just go to imagemagick instead, since i had issues getting gm installed on a unix server too but had more success with im |
| 18:20 |
zatmania |
do you use apache ? |
| 18:21 |
ipseos |
no, microsoft IIS6 |
| 18:22 |
Ries |
zatmania: I have a laptop with BSD thingy here aswell.. |
| 18:22 |
zatmania |
fbsd roxx |
| 18:22 |
zatmania |
i have on my laptop too and too my dev personnal server |
| 18:22 |
max_muetze |
doloana? |
| 18:23 |
zatmania |
ipseos, are u sure that your IIS have right to go to your gm folder ? |
| 18:23 |
Ries |
zatmania: osx here... |
| 18:23 |
zatmania |
i don't know osx but the core is base on a bsd one :) |
| 18:24 |
ipseos |
yes, i gave the IUSR_machinename list, read and execute permissions |
| 18:25 |
zatmania |
hum so i can't help you |
| 18:25 |
zatmania |
have u got some log to help you ? |
| 18:25 |
Ries |
ipseos: can you shell in and do something like sudo on a windows machine to test?? |
| 18:26 |
ipseos |
php safe_mode is off, everything else seems to be functioning correctly, directories are writable, GD lib and freetype is working etc.. this graphics magick seems to be my last niggle before i am done installing |
| 18:26 |
ipseos |
i have remote desktop access to the win 2003 server |
| 18:26 |
zatmania |
have you some errors messages ? |
| 18:27 |
ipseos |
theres no particular error messsage apart from "imagemagick cannot be found" in the typo3 installer |
| 18:27 |
ipseos |
i set the "gm" in configuration for im_version5: gm etc |
| 18:28 |
zatmania |
yes doesen't matter the first thing is that typo must find gm |
| 18:29 |
ipseos |
i see |
| 18:29 |
ipseos |
when it must find gm, by that i assume you mean the gm.exe file? |
| 18:29 |
zatmania |
i think so |
| 18:30 |
Ries |
ipseos: if you cut/paste teh command that typo3 tries to execute, does that work? |
| 18:30 |
ipseos |
Ries: sorry i dont understand |
| 18:30 |
ipseos |
how do i find out that command? |
| 18:31 |
zatmania |
in install tools |
| 18:31 |
Ries |
ipseos: typo3's shows in the install tool the commands he tries to execute |
| 18:31 |
zatmania |
http://typo3winstaller.sourceforge.net/ have you look here how gm is config ? |
| 18:32 |
ipseos |
Check Image Magick: |
| 18:32 |
ipseos |
No ImageMagick installation available |
| 18:32 |
ipseos |
It seems that there is no adequate ImageMagick installation available at the checked locations (C:\Program Files\GraphicsMagick-1.1.7-Q16\, c:\apache\ImageMagick\, c:\php\imagemagick\) |
| 18:32 |
ipseos |
An 'adequate' installation for requires 'convert', 'combine'/'composite' and 'identify' to be available |
| 18:33 |
zatmania |
have you the php module for imagemagick ? |
| 18:33 |
ipseos |
i am thinking it may be something to do with permissions of some sort, but i cant figure out what |
| 18:33 |
ipseos |
zatmania: i am not sure |
| 18:34 |
ipseos |
going to check |
| 18:34 |
zatmania |
try a php file with phpinfo in |
| 18:34 |
zatmania |
or go to install tools |
| 18:34 |
zatmania |
and then phpinfo |
| 18:34 |
Ries |
ipseos: d you use something like basemode or other stuff? |
| 18:35 |
ipseos |
Ries: no idea what basemode is |
| 18:37 |
Ries |
ipseos: That is some setting in php.ini... |
| 18:41 |
zatmania |
ipseos, your php.ini is the default one ? |
| 18:42 |
ipseos |
this is what i have in my php.ini for the extensions: |
| 18:42 |
ipseos |
;extension=php_mbstring.dll |
| 18:42 |
ipseos |
;extension=php_bz2.dll |
| 18:42 |
ipseos |
;extension=php_cpdf.dll |
| 18:42 |
ipseos |
;extension=php_crack.dll |
| 18:43 |
ipseos |
;extension=php_curl.dll |
| 18:43 |
ipseos |
;extension=php_db.dll |
| 18:43 |
ipseos |
;extension=php_dba.dll |
| 18:43 |
ipseos |
;extension=php_dbase.dll |
| 18:43 |
ipseos |
;extension=php_dbx.dll |
| 18:43 |
ipseos |
;extension=php_domxml.dll |
| 18:43 |
ipseos |
;extension=php_exif.dll |
| 18:43 |
ipseos |
;extension=php_fdf.dll |
| 18:43 |
ipseos |
;extension=php_filepro.dll |
| 18:43 |
ipseos |
extension=php_gd2.dll |
| 18:43 |
ipseos |
extension=php_gettext.dll |
| 18:43 |
ipseos |
;extension=php_hyperwave.dll |
| 18:43 |
ipseos |
extension=php_iconv.dll |
| 18:43 |
ipseos |
;extension=php_ifx.dll |
| 18:43 |
ipseos |
;extension=php_iisfunc.dll |
| 18:43 |
ipseos |
;extension=php_imap.dll |
| 18:43 |
ipseos |
;extension=php_interbase.dll |
| 18:43 |
ipseos |
;extension=php_java.dll |
| 18:43 |
ipseos |
;extension=php_ldap.dll |
| 18:43 |
ipseos |
;extension=php_mcrypt.dll |
| 18:43 |
ipseos |
;extension=php_mhash.dll |
| 18:43 |
ipseos |
;extension=php_mime_magic.dll |
| 18:43 |
ipseos |
;extension=php_ming.dll |
| 18:43 |
ipseos |
;extension=php_mssql.dll |
| 18:43 |
ipseos |
;extension=php_msql.dll |
| 18:43 |
ipseos |
;extension=php_oci8.dll |
| 18:43 |
ipseos |
;extension=php_openssl.dll |
| 18:43 |
ipseos |
;extension=php_oracle.dll |
| 18:43 |
ipseos |
;extension=php_pdf.dll |
| 18:43 |
ipseos |
;extension=php_pgsql.dll |
| 18:43 |
Boonkerz |
kick |
| 18:43 |
ipseos |
;extension=php_printer.dll |
| 18:43 |
ipseos |
;extension=php_shmop.dll |
| 18:43 |
ipseos |
;extension=php_snmp.dll |
| 18:43 |
ipseos |
;extension=php_sockets.dll |
| 18:44 |
ipseos |
;extension=php_sybase_ct.dll |
| 18:44 |
ipseos |
;extension=php_w32api.dll |
| 18:44 |
ipseos |
;extension=php_xmlrpc.dll |
| 18:44 |
ipseos |
;extension=php_xslt.dll |
| 18:44 |
ipseos |
;extension=php_yaz.dll |
| 18:44 |
ipseos |
;extension=php_zip.dll |
| 18:44 |
PaulLS_ |
Ries: does ltg_phpadsnew support openads/Typo3 4? |
| 18:46 |
smg |
ipseos: stfu |
| 18:46 |
smg |
use nopaste |
| 18:46 |
ipseos |
whats no paste |
| 18:46 |
zatmania |
ip all module with ";" before are not loaded |
| 18:47 |
zatmania |
hashbin.com |
| 18:47 |
zatmania |
for example |
| 18:47 |
zatmania |
paste what you want to show here |
| 18:47 |
zatmania |
on the site |
| 18:47 |
ipseos |
is it necessary to load them all though? wont it eat up memory resources? i enabled the gd iconv etc |
| 18:48 |
ndee_ |
what speaks again generating static pages and everytime you change something, that page gets updated |
| 18:48 |
ndee_ |
s/again/against |
| 18:50 |
ipseos |
thanks for the hashbin link, i am new to irc so i didnt know about pasting some codes |
| 18:54 |
zatmania |
no prb |
| 19:24 |
Denyerec |
Ries can you sum up in a short sentence what your login proviudes that the others do not ? |
| 19:31 |
Ries |
Denyerec: Hmm it contains registration including login box... it has a different workflow. I think it's less problamatic to customize |
| 19:32 |
Denyerec |
ahh right so FE users can reg from the same form ? |
| 19:33 |
socken23 |
hi all! which file do I have to change in tt_news to change [more] to something else!? |
| 19:33 |
Ries |
Denyerec: yes.. |
| 19:34 |
Ries |
Denyerec: Customizing loginbox and fe_user registration take up so much time that i feel it's better to make a routine myzelf |
| 19:34 |
Denyerec |
Ohh good. |
| 19:34 |
voidus |
socken23: no file, just add some TS |
| 19:34 |
Denyerec |
Will it be available when complete ? |
| 19:34 |
Ries |
Denyerec: You will get it, it's part of the gallery I am making |
| 19:34 |
Ries |
Denyerec: also I can register with mail addresses instead of usernames |
| 19:34 |
socken23 |
voidus: ok.. do you also know what TS by any chance? |
| 19:35 |
socken23 |
voidus: otherwise I'll check the documentation out... |
| 19:35 |
voidus |
socken23: plugin.tt_news._LOCAL_LANG.<your lang here>.more = <what you need> |
| 19:35 |
socken23 |
voidus: PERFECT! |
| 19:35 |
socken23 |
thanks alot |
| 19:36 |
voidus |
socken23: no pb |
| 19:36 |
Denyerec |
Cool |
| 19:36 |
Denyerec |
the extension is standalone from the gallery, though ? |
| 19:37 |
socken23 |
ok, see you all |
| 19:37 |
Ries |
Denyerec: something for you??? http://www.guru.com/pro/notifications_det.cfm?PID=7531375453626c58&PID2=766c4c53544c6c58&page=1 |
| 19:37 |
Ries |
Denyerec: No, it's not stand alone from teh gallery |
| 19:38 |
Denyerec |
:( |
| 19:38 |
Denyerec |
Shame... |
| 19:38 |
Denyerec |
as I need such a thing |
| 19:38 |
Ries |
Denyerec: it will contain modules like login, gallery, press releases, event database, registration in one extension |
| 19:38 |
Ries |
and a couple of modules more comming |
| 19:39 |
Denyerec |
How much work would it be to break the login out into its own extension ? |
| 19:39 |
Ries |
Denyerec: I know it's a shame... the module login/registration doesn't depend on anything but itself... so it could be extracted |
| 19:39 |
Denyerec |
because these things are useful on their own |
| 19:39 |
Denyerec |
so it would be awesome to have the gallery be a combination of modules, rather than one giant one |
| 19:39 |
Denyerec |
improve re-use for you too further down the line |
| 19:39 |
Ries |
It only uses dojo for form validations and some other stuff... |
| 19:39 |
Ries |
but I tried to make it work when JS is not available |
| 19:40 |
Ries |
Denyerec: I agree it might improve re-use, however for me it will greatly extend development time |
| 19:42 |
Denyerec |
Hmm, true. |
| 19:42 |
Ries |
Oo... and it uses email address for validation, not the username |
| 19:42 |
Ries |
I 'might' release the whole extension as GPL... |
| 19:44 |
uschi_ |
hi folks |
| 19:45 |
Ries |
Hey uschi |
| 19:49 |
uschi |
hm, just reading what the two of you (Ries, Denyerec) have been talking about |
| 19:49 |
voidus |
hi uschi |
| 19:49 |
uschi |
hi voidus :) |
| 19:50 |
Ries |
Denyerec: don't forget, I also don't support a lot of features yet... |
| 19:50 |
Denyerec |
:) |
| 19:50 |
Ries |
Denyerec: I can just register a user and let him login... I don't do profiles yes like birtdates etc... |
| 20:02 |
Ries |
this is weird |
| 20:02 |
Ries |
I remove the MP3 if my CD player... |
| 20:02 |
Ries |
and it keeps on playing for 30 seconds more!! |
| 20:18 |
uschi |
hey bedlamhotel :) |
| 20:18 |
uschi |
finally he turneth up again |
| 20:19 |
bedlamhotel |
As a dog returneth to his vomit, so a fool returneth again to his folly. |
| 20:19 |
bedlamhotel |
hello. |
| 20:19 |
bedlamhotel |
:) |
| 20:19 |
uschi |
:) |
| 20:19 |
Denyerec |
lo bedlamhotel |
| 20:20 |
bedlamhotel |
It's medieval greeting day! |
| 20:20 |
bedlamhotel |
Hello Dnyrc. |
| 20:28 |
Denyerec |
You ate my vowels. |
| 20:30 |
bedlamhotel |
No, I was just saving them for later. |
| 20:31 |
bedlamhotel |
'e' is the most used letter you know...you can't justkeep them all for yourself... |
| 20:33 |
Denyerec |
:( |
| 20:33 |
Denyerec |
I'm monitor shopping. |
| 20:33 |
Denyerec |
It's a headache inducing experience. |
| 20:36 |
PaulLS_ |
Ries: does ltg_phpadsnew support openads/Typo3 4? I've installed it despite the version discrepency and it hasn't had me configure the location of phpadsnew |
| 20:39 |
Ries |
PaulLS_: I never tried it with openads... |
| 20:40 |
Ries |
Denyerec: http://www.lacie.com/products/product.htm?pid=10799 |
| 20:40 |
PaulLS_ |
Ries: where does the location configuration happen? |
| 20:40 |
Ries |
PaulLS_: From the top of my head in the install tool you can configure where the location if the file he needs to include |
| 20:41 |
Denyerec |
the 321 is only 1600x1200 and is not so good on moving pictures :( |
| 20:41 |
Denyerec |
I'm looking currently at the Eizo S2411W |
| 20:41 |
PaulLS_ |
hmm.. it never prompted. |
| 20:41 |
Denyerec |
But I just keep wondering if that is big enough. |
| 20:46 |
Ries |
PaulLS_: just to be sure... can you see it in teh setuP? |
| 20:47 |
PaulLS_ |
Ries: Where should I look for it? I don't see anything other than the ext in the ext manager |
| 20:49 |
Denyerec |
I'm going to need someone's assistance for 5 minutes on a conceptual issue, not a synatx/implementation level. |
| 20:49 |
Denyerec |
Anyone bored enough to give me 5 minutes? |
| 20:50 |
bedlamhotel |
Denyerec: 5 mintues...go! |
| 20:50 |
Denyerec |
Heheh start the clock |
| 20:50 |
Denyerec |
I'm starting to thin kabout inmplementing my business site in Typo |
| 20:50 |
Denyerec |
and I've come to figuring out how to handle the portfolio |
| 20:50 |
Denyerec |
current URL here: |
| 20:51 |
Denyerec |
http://www.sozu.co.uk/index.php?id=15 |
| 20:51 |
Denyerec |
As you can see clicking on a thumbnail adds a getVar to the URL. |
| 20:51 |
Denyerec |
This dictates which image to pull from the DB and display in the main frame. |
| 20:51 |
bedlamhotel |
I suppose javascript is out? |
| 20:51 |
Denyerec |
I wrote some JS to do this without a pageload locally |
| 20:51 |
Denyerec |
Well |
| 20:51 |
Denyerec |
I need it to work if JS is disabled |
| 20:51 |
Denyerec |
JS can be used |
| 20:52 |
Denyerec |
but there needs to be a fallback plan. |
| 20:52 |
Denyerec |
and this is where I drew the blank. |
| 20:52 |
Ries |
PaulLS_: it's this setting : plugin.tx_ltgphpadsnew_pi1.phpadsnew_path |
| 20:52 |
bedlamhotel |
Denyerec: not a T3 site, but here's a crude fallback option: http://raisedeyebrow.com/portfolio/mfc.html (check the images in the sidebar) |
| 20:53 |
bedlamhotel |
(i.e. with and without javascript) |
| 20:54 |
Denyerec |
Hmm |
| 20:54 |
Denyerec |
That is to display all three images then use JS to re-write the page. |
| 20:55 |
bedlamhotel |
Correct. Would be very simple to do with a CMS backing. |
| 20:55 |
Denyerec |
I've seen it done before , though where I saw it done was generating those tab-boxes |
| 20:55 |
Denyerec |
so the content was just 3-4 divs with ID's which was restructured into a tab-box. |
| 20:56 |
bedlamhotel |
If I remember right, I put the styles for the thumbnails and mouseovers in the css and just used the js to change the classes on elements. |
| 20:56 |
bedlamhotel |
(plus, it's an ordered list :)) |
| 20:56 |
Denyerec |
Not 100% sold on the approach, mostly because I don't know a damn bit of JS. |
| 20:57 |
bedlamhotel |
Denyerec: oh. It took about 2 hours to prove the concept, and about 6 hours to implement, including the CSS. When you say you don't know a bit of javascript: literally true, or hyperbole? |
| 20:58 |
Denyerec |
Literally. |
| 20:58 |
PaulLS_ |
Ries: Where can I edit/define the setting? |
| 20:58 |
Denyerec |
I can usually hack together or implement someone elses JS and change a couple of parameters |
| 20:58 |
bedlamhotel |
So this is not the time to learn I guess?> |
| 20:58 |
Denyerec |
but coding something from scratch that works in every browser? Hah, no. |
| 20:58 |
Denyerec |
Well, I need to learn abou 74839748932749327489327843298432 things. |
| 20:58 |
Denyerec |
(Seemingly NOT hyperbole...) |
| 20:58 |
Ries |
PaulLS_: it's a regelar typoscript setting |
| 20:59 |
PaulLS_ |
so simply define it in the template record? |
| 20:59 |
Denyerec |
But I'm resistant to getting myself hogtied over something that has perhaps got a more elegant solution available. |
| 20:59 |
bedlamhotel |
Denyerec: for this stuff, it's not too hard. I used only very basic DOM functions, so as to avoid the browser minefield. I probably did not actually do a function check, though that would only add a few lines' extra code. |
| 21:00 |
Denyerec |
I just wonder how to implement that little gallery widget section as an FCE |
| 21:00 |
Denyerec |
and integrate into it the JS functionality. |
| 21:00 |
Denyerec |
Or the Get var functionality |
| 21:01 |
bedlamhotel |
Sounds pretty simple in fact. I built something like that as an FCE once. |
| 21:01 |
bedlamhotel |
...though I discarded it in favour of a yet-to-be-written portfolio extension. I wanted more relational information that I could achieve with an FCE |
| 21:01 |
Denyerec |
Yes... |
| 21:02 |
Denyerec |
I think perhaps an extension is the way to go. |
| 21:02 |
bedlamhotel |
As far as the GET approach is concerned, you must be fully up to speed with the ins and outs of that if you've got your text-only bits working... |
| 21:02 |
Denyerec |
THat way I can categorise the portfolio entries |
| 21:02 |
bedlamhotel |
With an extension you mean? |
| 21:02 |
Denyerec |
Yes. |
| 21:03 |
bedlamhotel |
Yes. And have multiple projects per clients, etc, etc. |
| 21:03 |
Denyerec |
THough there are 101 things that I could think to do with that that inevitably I do not know how to do. |
| 21:04 |
Denyerec |
EG create a typolink in the main menu to "Projects in Print" |
| 21:04 |
Denyerec |
which would access the portfolio page with a getVar |
| 21:04 |
Denyerec |
(by way of example) |
| 21:04 |
Denyerec |
Though I suppose you could enter the plugin onto a page called "print" and simply configure the plugin on that page via flexform. |
| 21:05 |
Denyerec |
So perhaps it would not be all that bad, providing the extension was sound. |
| 21:05 |
Denyerec |
sounds like I need to learn how to write extensions. |
| 21:06 |
Denyerec |
I was worried it would come to this. |
| 21:06 |
Denyerec |
:) |
| 21:06 |
bedlamhotel |
Yes. It seems to me that the part requiring the most thought is just the db structure: if you're going to write the extension anyhow, may as well make sure the db structure is sound. |
| 21:06 |
Denyerec |
Aye |
| 21:06 |
bedlamhotel |
The kickstarter makes it easy, though you may want to read the (long) thread on the dev list about setting no_cache from extensions (brief summary: don't). |
| 21:07 |
Denyerec |
That is: Do not turn off the cache in your plugin ? |
| 21:07 |
bedlamhotel |
Yes. |
| 21:08 |
Denyerec |
worth following the extension writing tutorial from strat to finish, I presume ? |
| 21:09 |
bedlamhotel |
Yes and no. There are some functions in pi_base and elsewhere that didn't exist when the video tutorials were made. |
| 21:10 |
Ries |
20 minutes and counting.... |
| 21:10 |
bedlamhotel |
(so for getting a list of categories by name from a separate table, for example, there is a function in pi_base that will do the part that Kasper says you will have to figure out on your own. |
| 21:10 |
Ries |
bedlamhotel: hehehe yeaa the thread about caching :) |
| 21:10 |
bedlamhotel |
Ries: it's ok, I'm billing him by the second at this point. |
| 21:11 |
Denyerec |
pi_base is unknown to me. |
| 21:11 |
Denyerec |
And I was ona bout this: http://typo3.org/documentation/document-library/tutorials/player_profile_basic/0.0.8/view/1/1/#id2694348 |
| 21:11 |
Denyerec |
Video tutorial ... ? |
| 21:12 |
bedlamhotel |
http://typo3.org/video/ |
| 21:12 |
Denyerec |
I have found the page. |
| 21:12 |
Denyerec |
Long list... |
| 21:19 |
uschi |
Denyerec, i am still always one step behind you :) |
| 21:20 |
Denyerec |
hehehe |
| 21:20 |
Denyerec |
You are 10 steps ahead in Localisation. |
| 21:21 |
uschi |
bedlamhotel ? |
| 21:22 |
bedlamhotel |
Denyerec: missed what you said about pi_base: check the basic output of the kickstarter. It's a (rather kludgy) set of classes for extensions. |
| 21:22 |
Denyerec |
ah ok. |
| 21:22 |
Denyerec |
I will be awtching the tutorial videos for the next few hours I think |
| 21:23 |
bedlamhotel |
classes -> should be 'functions'. |
| 22:11 |
Ries |
gerards: !!! |
| 22:11 |
Ries |
wake up gerards |
| 22:11 |
Ries |
pling pling pling |
| 22:11 |
brain-xy |
:) |
| 22:11 |
Denyerec |
Just go round there and shake him in person |
| 22:11 |
Denyerec |
:) |
| 22:11 |
Ries |
yeaa Ineed to take the bus then ;) |
| 22:12 |
Denyerec |
do |
| 22:12 |
Denyerec |
h |
| 22:12 |
gerards |
ries |
| 22:12 |
gerards |
Ries: sorry i was having lunch. |
| 22:12 |
gerards |
a late late lunch. |
| 22:12 |
Denyerec |
I would call that "dinner" |
| 22:12 |
Denyerec |
:) |
| 22:12 |
gerards |
i prefer late late lunch. |
| 22:13 |
gerards |
it means that i can eats someting later. |
| 22:13 |
brain-xy |
midnight snack :P |
| 22:13 |
gerards |
brain-xy: or early early breakfast. |
| 22:13 |
brain-xy |
heheh :) ja |
| 22:35 |
Ries |
gerards: I found it already, I needed a function to send html emails |
| 22:35 |
gerards |
using typo3? |
| 22:35 |
gerards |
i thought you always told me to use htmlmail? |
| 22:36 |
Denyerec |
THe extension manager makes things look too easy. |
| 22:36 |
Denyerec |
Kickstarter I mean. |
| 22:36 |
Denyerec |
There must be a catch :) |
| 22:36 |
gerards |
Denyerec: there's no catch. |
| 22:36 |
gerards |
ks is not perfect, but its really brilliant. |
| 22:37 |
Denyerec |
Flexforms... |
| 22:37 |
Denyerec |
? |
| 22:37 |
gerards |
nah KS doesn't do flexforms. |
| 22:37 |
gerards |
i thikn. |
| 22:37 |
Ries |
gerards: Yeaaa but I had a function for it... I just wanted to copy/paste |
| 22:38 |
Ries |
Denyerec: proper caching is a problem with kickstarer |
| 22:38 |
Denyerec |
Gah, so there lies the catch. |
| 22:38 |
gerards |
Ries: its a kickstarter. |
| 22:39 |
gerards |
not a magic wand. |
| 22:40 |
Ries |
gerards: well, the default is kinda ugly... it doesn't give a good example.... |
| 22:40 |
Denyerec |
Ries do you have perhaps a little more to say on the topic ? |
| 22:40 |
Ries |
gerards: read the thread about it on typo3-dev |
| 22:40 |
Denyerec |
As in, what the problem is ? |
| 22:40 |
Ries |
Denyerec: it's encuraged (or whatever how I write that) to use no_cache in forms |
| 22:41 |
Denyerec |
You mean on things like email forms and such |
| 22:41 |
Denyerec |
I read that somewhere, and have set it on the WLA site |
| 22:43 |
Ries |
Denyerec: For you it's properly not a big deal |
| 22:43 |
Denyerec |
on a high traffic site it would certainly be. |
| 22:43 |
Ries |
Denyerec: The problem starts when you have on a single page a forum with 50.000 posts (cached by typo3) |
| 22:44 |
Denyerec |
sp: probably |
| 22:44 |
Ries |
and somebody submits a new post, |
| 22:44 |
Ries |
then the form set's no_cache=1 and all cached content for 50.000 posts is gone |
| 22:44 |
Denyerec |
Erk. |
| 22:44 |
Ries |
Now guess what happens when google want's to re-index your site... including the 50.000 posts |
| 22:44 |
Denyerec |
Your server crashes. |
| 22:44 |
Denyerec |
:) |
| 22:44 |
Ries |
The server get's hit badly sinve it needs to create all content again |
| 22:45 |
Denyerec |
In this case we are discussing |
| 22:45 |
Denyerec |
is the form ON the same page as the 50,000 posts |
| 22:45 |
Denyerec |
? |
| 22:46 |
Denyerec |
SO what is wrong with the kickstarter cache handling ? |
| 22:47 |
Ries |
Denyerec: well.. kickstarter set no_cache=1, while in fact a user could use a user_int object |
| 22:48 |
Denyerec |
I see |
| 22:48 |
Ries |
then no_cache on the form is not needed |
| 22:48 |
Denyerec |
So you just dive in and disable that |
| 22:48 |
Ries |
yup!!! |
| 22:48 |
Ries |
easy :D |
| 22:48 |
Denyerec |
and insert the item as a USER_INT if that behaviour is needed? |
| 22:48 |
Denyerec |
Rather than USER... |
| 22:48 |
Denyerec |
I read about that in the Inside Typo3 doc. |
| 22:48 |
Denyerec |
:D |
| 22:48 |
Ries |
in your case, I would start off with creating extensions that are user_int objects |
| 22:48 |
Denyerec |
This reading is slowly paying off. |
| 22:49 |
Ries |
You could also use lib/div... although not perfect, I am fairly happy with most part of it |
| 22:50 |
Denyerec |
Do you have to alter the code of your extensions significantly to ensure proper caching ? |
| 22:52 |
bedlamhotel |
OT: try using google maps to get driving directions for transatlantic trips. For example, try "New York, USA to London, England"...pay particular attention to step 23... |
| 22:53 |
Ries |
Denyerec: No, the problem is more really understanding how typo3's caching mechnism works |
| 22:54 |
uschi |
Ries, Denyerec it is important to do what bedlamhotel said. That one is really a laugh |
| 23:27 |
Denyerec |
LOL |
| 23:27 |
Denyerec |
"Swim across the atlantic ocean" |
| 23:27 |
Denyerec |
at least they have a sense of humour :) |
| 23:38 |
Denyerec |
Ries in the extenion writing tutorial, Kasper gets a list view without writing any code... |
| 23:38 |
Denyerec |
Did I miss something or is that some default generated code? |
| 23:44 |
Ries |
Denyerec: not really... that's build in ino piBase.. I never used it |
| 23:46 |
Denyerec |
Ah OK. |
| 23:47 |
Denyerec |
I must have missed th epart where he mentions it in the video |
| 23:47 |
Denyerec |
It would be good to look into the code to see how it works. |
| 23:49 |
Denyerec |
This exists already: |
| 23:49 |
Denyerec |
http://typo3.org/documentation/document-library/extension-manuals/websiteportfolio/0.1.12/view/1/1/#id2831739 |
| 23:49 |
Denyerec |
But I think it would be good to write my own, or at least customise that one. |
