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00:08 Rocketjock Hello all
00:11 Denyerec Hey Rj
00:11 tansta Denyerec: did you say there's english docs of tt_product yesterday ?
00:11 tansta ;)
00:12 Rocketjock Hey Den
00:12 Denyerec Um
00:12 tansta hahaha you liar
00:12 Denyerec Tansta I might have been comparing the level of english docusmentation for tt_products compared to ANY docs for commerce :D
00:13 tansta kekekeke okay, i thought so, i've searching for ages
00:13 Denyerec Aye :(
00:13 Denyerec The "holy Trinity" of websites...
00:13 Denyerec that clients always ask for:
00:13 tansta dont worry brain-xy said he'll translate it when he got time soon :)
00:13 Denyerec 1- Gallery
00:13 Denyerec 2- Forum
00:13 Denyerec 3- Shop
00:13 Denyerec So far, Typo lacks excellent versions of all three :/
00:13 tansta really ?
00:14 Denyerec Aye, those are the three most common requests from the people I speak to.
00:14 Denyerec Their either want 1, 2 or all three of them
00:14 tansta i haven't had client ask for forum yet
00:14 brain-xy Denyerec .. i agree
00:14 tansta i'd say:
00:14 Rocketjock tell them that in their new survey
00:14 tansta 1. gallery
00:14 tansta 2. shop
00:14 tansta 3. forum
00:14 tansta no
00:14 tansta 3. direct mail
00:14 tansta 4. forum
00:14 Denyerec direct mail ?
00:14 Denyerec you mean newsletters?
00:14 brain-xy newsletter
00:14 brain-xy jap
00:15 Denyerec But I thought there was already a good extension for that ?
00:15 tansta yep
00:15 tansta newsletter is popular is Aus
00:15 tansta direct mail ?
00:15 brain-xy and i always like it when somebody with 4 pages want to have a search function on his website ...
00:15 Denyerec hahaha yeha
00:15 Denyerec :)
00:15 tansta not really, the plain text feature is a big jiggy for me
00:15 Denyerec Oh, Typo3 Search sucks a bit.
00:15 Denyerec it's OK
00:15 Denyerec but it's not ideal.
00:15 tansta hahahah
00:16 Denyerec compared to some of the drop-in approaches you can find in Ruby
00:16 Denyerec (Rails)
00:16 tansta i still have to hack the search function its not funny :)
00:16 Denyerec Aye.
00:16 Denyerec indexed_search ?
00:16 uschi i am tired
00:16 tansta i still dont know how that work
00:16 Denyerec ah
00:16 Denyerec well it's not perfec.t
00:16 uschi of t3-rights system and linux rights system
00:16 Denyerec hehe
00:17 Denyerec I don't know if commerce will be good or not.
00:17 tansta how does index search work ?
00:17 tansta you install it
00:17 tansta and then what ?
00:17 uschi thx Denyerec :)
00:17 Denyerec You have to have it crawl your pages
00:17 uschi then you read the docs :)
00:17 Denyerec which you set up via some mysterious CRON job
00:17 tansta thats my point
00:18 Denyerec I reasoned this...
00:18 Denyerec Set up indexed_search immediately
00:18 brain-xy or you use winhttracker and copy the complete website ^^
00:18 tansta its so complicated for a simple search funtion :)
00:18 Denyerec because it will index pages when they are first visited.
00:18 Denyerec AND
00:18 uschi does that mean, if i want to use indexed search i have to edit those blody cron tables
00:18 Denyerec a content author *ALWAYS* visits his/her page when they're done writing, thus indexing it ;)
00:18 Denyerec So I didn't bother with the Cron job on the last site I implemented it on
00:18 Denyerec :D
00:18 tansta good point
00:18 uschi how does one ensure that?
00:18 Denyerec You hope.
00:18 tansta hahaha
00:18 Denyerec Nothing more...
00:19 tansta you gamble
00:19 tansta more like it
00:19 Denyerec I told the client "Always load your page in the frontend to check it"
00:19 Denyerec :D
00:19 uschi true, this is gambling
00:19 tansta but its a 99% chance of winning
00:19 Denyerec It has worked so far, but it's only a small site anyway.
00:19 uschi no extension for autoindexing a page after change of content?
00:19 Denyerec One of those "4 pages with search" jobs.
00:19 tansta hahahaha
00:19 Denyerec uschi - I do not know.
00:19 Denyerec the cron job re-indexes every T time period
00:20 uschi this is what cronjobs are for
00:20 Denyerec Indeed.
00:20 tansta how do you set up cron job if you dont have CPANEL X ?
00:20 tansta .htaccess ?
00:20 uschi what the hell is CPANEL X
00:20 tansta or get your server admin to do it ?
00:20 uschi yes
00:20 tansta server admin system
00:20 uschi the latter
00:21 tansta be right back
00:22 Denyerec http://www.bebo.com/FlashBox.jsp?FlashBoxId=1009644252&MID=3611618708
00:23 Rocketjock or write it yourself
00:23 brain-xy Denyerec ... what.. is he going to do? .. OMG :P
00:23 Denyerec he's got some moves :)
00:23 uschi moves?
00:23 brain-xy he will damage something .. am i rigth? :)
00:24 uschi you know, i am sitting here with three girls laughing themselves to death
00:24 uschi brain-xy if he has access to the cron tables ...
00:24 Denyerec Nono
00:24 brain-xy hm?!
00:24 Denyerec He just dances
00:24 Denyerec no breakage...
00:24 Denyerec not bad for a white guy... :)
00:24 brain-xy uschi.. watch the video :P
00:25 uschi which one?
00:25 brain-xy it has nothing to do with cronjobs :P
00:25 brain-xy the one Denyerec pasted above
00:25 uschi ah, ok
00:25 Denyerec moves == dance moves
00:25 brain-xy Denyerec .. you are located in england aren't you?
00:25 Denyerec Yeah
00:26 brain-xy do you know if the new season of it crowd is out?
00:26 Denyerec Hmm
00:26 uschi no point, no sound for this machine
00:26 uschi too bad
00:26 Denyerec brain I don't have a TB
00:26 Denyerec TV
00:26 Denyerec So I don't really keep track
00:26 brain-xy k :)
00:26 uschi congrats Denyerec
00:27 Denyerec Hehe
00:27 Denyerec you're the first person to say that, instead of "WHAT?!??!"
00:27 uschi :)
00:28 Denyerec State-owned television is poisonous propaganda, and commercial television is insidious, undermining pap most of the time.
00:28 uschi i tried it with private tv, to get rid of the ads
00:28 Boonkerz WHAT no TV
00:28 Boonkerz hehe
00:28 Denyerec Illegally downloading what you want to watch from the internet is, sadly, the easiest way to escape the Mind Control Machine.
00:28 uschi we do have tv, or better a computer with a beamer
00:28 brain-xy jap.. german tv.. awful!
00:28 tansta TV = TemplaVoila
00:28 brain-xy :)
00:28 Denyerec Oh Cmon, the Japanese have Ninja Warrior...
00:28 Boonkerz talk shows
00:29 Boonkerz hrhr
00:29 brain-xy Boonkerz .. indeed :(
00:29 uschi this, tansta, is exactly why this automatic abbrev-stuff is complete crap
00:29 Denyerec Japanese excel with shows like this: http://youtube.com/watch?v=QkBkZpK-fYQ
00:30 uschi i really have to install my new computer, to have the sound back
00:30 tansta hahaha
00:31 uschi what kind of laughter is that, and what about, tansta
00:31 brain-xy when i watch this video i have to think on my poor brother who is at the army now ... :P
00:31 Denyerec :)
00:31 tansta oops
00:31 Denyerec Which army Brain ?
00:31 tansta Sparta
00:31 brain-xy :P
00:31 tansta hahaha ;)
00:32 brain-xy no not really.. the normal basic training
00:32 uschi *L*
00:32 uschi eckig ist ordentlich und laut ist richtig
00:32 uschi can someone translate this please?
00:34 brain_xy i like this 24h disconnect..
00:34 uschi yes, it is a lovely feature
00:34 uschi brain_xy you know german?
00:34 brain_xy i am a german ^^
00:35 uschi great, how to translate (in an army context)
00:35 uschi eckig ist ordentlich und laut ist richtig
00:35 brain_xy i'm not in the army.. and i won
00:35 brain_xy grmnl
00:35 brain_xy won't go to them..
00:36 uschi but still, how to translate "eckig"
00:36 brain_xy edgy is straight and loud is correct ^^
00:36 brain_xy ok not quite
00:37 uschi rechteckig
00:37 brain_xy angled is the better word
00:37 Denyerec Which army tho Brain
00:37 Denyerec German Army ?
00:37 uschi Denyerec, if you have 4 corners, neatly an tight, how is that called in english
00:37 brain_xy yes.. my brother is there right now..
00:38 brain_xy rectangle
00:38 Denyerec square?
00:38 tansta Square ?
00:38 uschi no rectangle
00:38 tansta Box ?
00:38 Denyerec having something squared away ?
00:38 Denyerec You on about a single word, or a phrase here ?
00:38 uschi if you are able to fold your t-shirts in a correct rectangular way
00:39 brain_xy oO what is she trying to say?
00:39 Denyerec http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4776825453418327083&q=shirt+fold
00:39 Denyerec Like that? :)
00:39 brain_xy LOL :D
00:39 Denyerec (No sound needed)
00:39 brain_xy cool way..
00:39 Denyerec Origami to the max ;)
00:40 uschi exactly
00:40 Denyerec I don't think there IS a word to describe accurate t-shirt folding
00:40 uschi you know how people in the army trained to keep their things in order?
00:40 Denyerec Yes
00:41 brain_xy private paula!! DO IT!! .. :P
00:41 uschi so you have to have those neet corners
00:41 Denyerec eckig describes such a thing
00:41 Denyerec ?
00:42 Denyerec EG if something is eckig it is "Straight edged" or "Neat" ?
00:42 uschi yes, if you have neet corners, that is eckig
00:42 brain_xy neat
00:42 uschi too late, perhaps
00:42 uschi no, cornery
00:42 brain_xy hmm.. corny.. i'm hungry
00:42 uschi corny, horny, bed
00:42 brain_xy ...
00:43 Denyerec Hehe
00:43 Rocketjock eeerrr now i have to go back and see what i missed
00:43 Denyerec this is interesting
00:44 Denyerec You could describe something as "edgy" but that's more likely to be used to describe a person as being shifty,or "on edge", nervous.
00:44 uschi you could say that in german as well
00:45 uschi it is about things with 90 degrees angle
00:45 brain_xy like "ich geb mir die kante" ? :P
00:45 uschi *L*
00:46 uschi this is altogether another thing, but i started already :)
00:47 Rocketjock I wish people would put dates on articles....I hate reading about things that have already been fixed
00:47 uschi i am with your, Rocketjock :)
00:48 Rocketjock :)
00:48 brain_xy and i like it to correct content which was raped by the secretary..
00:48 tansta hahahahahhaa
00:48 uschi *grin*
00:49 tansta yeah secretary like to rape content :)
00:49 uschi Rocketjock, one needs a concept of how to document/teach/do this kind of stuff
00:49 uschi and then people will adapt those rules if they are reasonable
00:50 Rocketjock agreed
00:50 uschi i am trying to develop such a concept for a big project
00:51 uschi a) version is required (of t3 and ext in question)
00:51 uschi b) you need page comments, so that people can say: still true with version #.#.#
00:52 uschi because you cannot ask the author to try it all out
00:52 Rocketjock Hi _Awilleys_
00:53 uschi a concept for small howtos, i mean, that is
00:55 Rocketjock interesting... I like the idea of letting others comment to keep the information current
00:56 Rocketjock I wrote my first crontab just now :0
00:56 Rocketjock :)
00:57 Rocketjock now if I could figure out this stupid sub mask problem I wouldn't need the crontab :(
00:57 Denyerec if you are on about 90 degree angles
00:57 Rocketjock uschi: what time is it there?
00:57 Denyerec then you definately want "square"
00:58 Denyerec because you say "That's square" if talking about perfect 90 degree corners
00:59 Rocketjock with even lenth sides
00:59 Rocketjock length*
01:00 Denyerec Nah
01:00 Denyerec not necessarily
01:00 Denyerec you could ask "Is it square?" about a joint in a peice of wood
01:00 Denyerec meaning "does it meet at 90 degrees"
01:00 Rocketjock if not even length then it is a rectangle
01:00 Denyerec Yeah
01:00 Denyerec but in English you can use "square" to talk about a 90 degree angle
01:01 Denyerec and not even concern yourself with the length of the sides.
01:01 Rocketjock true
01:01 Rocketjock square as an angle not as a shape
01:01 Rocketjock not as a person
01:01 Rocketjock :)
01:02 Denyerec hehe
01:02 Denyerec Cmon... we're in #typo3. That's a given.
01:02 Denyerec ;)
01:02 Rocketjock heheheh
01:02 Rocketjock yep
01:05 Denyerec right
01:05 Denyerec I sleep
01:05 Denyerec gnight people!
01:05 Rocketjock nite
01:09 brain-xy night Denyerec
01:57 Rocketjock nite all
01:58 tansta oh my god so quite now :)
02:00 tansta has anyone got the book - Mastering typo script ?
02:00 tansta any thought on it if you do ?
02:23 brain-xy *gape*
02:23 brain-xy what book?
02:23 brain-xy i have only german books..
02:23 brain-xy concerning typo3 ^^ .. i got maya books in english :P
02:26 brain-xy uargh.. what a bread..
02:36 brain-xy hey tansta .. do you know it crowd?
02:44 tansta ?
02:44 tansta what's crowd brain-xy ?
02:44 brain-xy a tv series
02:44 tansta oh nope
02:45 tansta there is a book call in english call mastering typoscript
02:45 brain-xy i think i have to upload the first episode on my server some day :)
02:45 tansta which i am looking to buy but dont know how good is it :)
02:45 brain-xy ah k
02:46 brain-xy hm.. i should go to bed.. in 1 hour the sun appears..
02:46 tansta what the ?
02:46 tansta you're vampire :)
02:46 brain-xy :P
02:46 brain-xy :)
02:46 tansta sleep during the day
02:46 tansta :)
02:46 brain-xy the night is too short :(
02:47 brain-xy during the day very strange people are walking down the street ..
02:48 brain-xy but i also could enjoy a sunrise..
02:48 brain-xy NOOOO .. i could burn down..
03:08 Ries http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2007160369,00.html
03:13 tansta Thats a cute story Ries :)
03:14 Ries tansta: how could I teach my cats that!!!
03:14 tansta hehehe i dont know
03:14 Ries I could teach them to jump on me on cmmand......
03:14 tansta take it on the same route everyday
03:15 Ries They just do it however when they feel like it :)
03:15 brain-xy hahaha :)
03:15 brain-xy cool lazy cat :P
03:15 tansta my god you're still awake
03:16 brain-xy first sunrays appear in .. ~ 30 minutes :P
03:19 jsfan hi everyone :)
03:19 brain-xy morning
03:21 tansta g'day fellow Aussie :)
03:21 gerards hey everyone...
03:21 tansta hey gerards
03:22 brain-xy hi gerards
03:23 gerards brain-xy: you gotta sleep man.
03:23 brain-xy why is everybody saying that?! :P
03:23 gerards isn't it like 3am where you are?
03:23 brain-xy 5:26 to be correctly :P
03:23 brain-xy am :P
03:24 jsfan hi tansta
03:24 jsfan hi gerards
03:24 jsfan hi brain-xy
03:24 brain-xy hi jsfan
03:25 brain-xy does js stands for javascript? :)
03:25 gerards i hope not
03:25 brain-xy :P
03:25 tansta hahaha
03:26 tansta i never thought of that
03:33 brain-xy uhm.. i feel so .. like.. my body sits right next to me..
03:36 brain-xy ok.. bed is waiting .. goodnight guys :)
03:43 jsfan tansta, are you in for this month's melbourne ug meeting?
03:51 tansta jsfan: what's the update on that ?
03:51 tansta i haven't been receiving any emails
03:59 jsfan tansta, i haven't sent out the email, yet.
03:59 jsfan tansta, it will be on april 26, last thursday of the month
04:00 jsfan tansta, but only if simon can make it because i'll be pretty late on that date :(
04:00 jsfan tansta, so it might still not happen... :(
04:00 tansta oh dear me :(
04:01 tansta but i am up for it, please let me know if any updates
04:12 jsfan tansta, ok, i'll let you know once i know if it will be april or may...
04:13 tansta cool jsfan, thanks
04:13 jsfan tansta, no worries :)
04:41 tansta does anyone know in a nutshell how can get a tt_product shop to display the product ?
05:31 jsfan quit cyas later
05:45 dax77 good morning @all
05:52 tansta good morning/afternoon :)
06:11 zatmania hi dax77, tansta and all typoters
06:12 tansta g'day zats
06:15 dax77 hey zat, hey tansta
06:16 tansta g'day dax77
06:16 dax77 tansta: what local time do you have?
06:16 tansta 4:20 PM
06:17 tansta GMT +10 i think
06:17 tansta dax77: what are your thought on commerce ?
06:18 dax77 never played with it - so can't tell
06:18 tansta oh okay
06:19 dax77 but I think if there is someone behind it, who is willing to work on it, it will become a major player
06:19 dax77 like with any other ext
06:20 tansta yeah true...
06:20 dax77 it's a hugh thing to handle - I know that, because with the calendar its the same
06:21 uschi_ morning dax77 :))
06:21 uschi_ and tansta
06:21 dax77 hallo uschi :)
06:21 tansta i think its still got a long way to go :)
06:21 tansta hi uschi
06:21 dax77 tansta: yes, that might be
06:21 tansta i dont think it would be usable without a manual :)
06:22 dax77 manual writing is soooooo boring
06:22 tansta hahaha i can imagine that
06:22 dax77 why isn't there noone out there who loves manual writing?
06:23 tansta if they get paid for it they will ;)
06:24 uschi poor dax77 :)
06:24 bauschan hi @ all !
06:24 dax77 well, thats the thing about opensource - you can/should do also things without getting money for it
06:24 dax77 hi bauschan
06:25 dax77 just because you love doing it
06:29 tansta hmmm...commerce looks good
06:30 zatmania hi uschi, Jigal, bauschan
06:30 tansta but i think it will improve very much within a year
06:30 tobi good morning #typo3
06:30 uschi morning zatmania
06:31 tobi i dont know what i should think about comerce ... to much hype and blahblah for my teast. tt_products is quite good, and if you really need a complex shop i think oscommerce will always be better (and has a t3 integration too)
06:32 tansta tobi, you know about tt_product ?
06:32 tobi i used it once tansta, but i dont know it good
06:32 tansta i am struggling to get anything showing
06:34 Jigal brb : windoze update -> reboot :-(
06:34 tansta HAHA i had to do it this morning
06:42 tansta would anyone reccomend the book, mastering typoscript ?
06:42 tobi i would wait for a tranlation of typo3 coockbook, its very good imho
06:43 tansta tobi, how can i get info about that ?
06:44 tobi http://www.amazon.de/exec/obidos/ASIN/389721430X/interactive01307-21 tansta, but only german at the moment
06:44 Fanty whats the url escape function called?
06:44 tansta Grrr...why the hell is it the German all the good stuff first ?
06:44 tansta :)
06:44 tansta Kasper is
06:45 tansta German ?
06:45 tansta tobi, that's typo3 cookbook, typoscript is different though isn't it ?
06:45 tobi no kasper is from denmark
06:46 tobi yes thats typo3 cookbook, i dont know mastering typoscript
06:47 tansta tobi: are you German ?
06:48 tobi i am italian but i speak german
06:49 tobi i bought the typo3 coockbook some month ago .. did not read it fully, but it seems very good
06:50 tansta oh cool :)
06:51 tansta do you know if the typo3 framework of TypoScript will change in version 5 ?
06:51 tobi ive heard something about typoscript 2.0, so probably they will change something
06:51 tobi but i dont know if its a extension or replacement of the current typoscript
06:52 Jigal hi @ll
06:52 tobi good morning Jigal
06:52 Jigal good morning tobi!
06:52 bauschan hi Jigal !
06:53 Jigal tansta: what are the chances of people upgrading to v.5. if it were not backwards compatible (i.e. their current sites have to be reconfigured and script have to be rewritten before the site starts working again)?
06:54 Jigal good morning bauschan
06:54 tansta good point Jigal :)
06:55 Jigal morning dax77
06:55 tansta hmm...so if i buy that book now, i might need to buy the typoscript version 2 book (if any) later on ?
06:55 dax77 re :)
06:55 tobi yes, but maybe they start a new thing with 5.0 and maintain some 4.X release for important fixes ..
06:55 tansta hmmm...hopefully not
06:56 tobi as i allways say: typo3 5.0 has to be great or it will fail ( a lot of new things, what also means a lot of things can go wrong )
06:58 tansta you're dead right tobi, that goes for all application not just typo3
06:59 Jigal tobi: since TYPO3 is a modular system, there is hardly any reason against having two possible typoscript versions. A new DAL should also live together with the old one, otherwise all current extensions become broken.
06:59 Jigal brb
07:04 uschi what is DAL, may i ask?
07:05 Jigal uschi: Data Access Layer
07:06 uschi hm, and what do you mean by this?
07:07 Jigal uschi: used to abstract database access, usually to support more than one database system without other parts of the application knowing which dbms (database management system) is currently being used
07:07 tobi hm in the typo3 5.0 roadmap (http://typo3.org/teams/50-development/roadmap/) they also mention "Important Frontend Plugins like tt_news, indexed_search, login box etc. have been migrated to 5.0 packages" and typoscript 2.0, so we can expect changes ..
07:12 uschi so a database abstraction layer you mean
07:15 |--Holy_Devil--| Hi all
07:15 fummeltrine hi
07:20 Jigal uschi: no, not per se; some of the DALs don't even tell if there is a database or some other mechanism to store data. Some DALs have their own query language or their own expressions to define what data you want to find. SQL queries often contain dbms dependant syntax features, so a new query language is often the way for data abstraction.
07:21 uschi ok, got it, Jigal
07:21 Jigal hi |--Holy_Devil--|, fummeltrine, Rapp, beev0r, kermit_green, Phlogiston_, anty, roo|working
07:21 Fanty is it possible with templavoila to have a "content area" thats not mapped but still allows the admin to add content to it? I need some XML added on every single page
07:21 Fanty for an extension to use
07:21 Phlogiston_ hey guys :)
07:22 uschi do it via a tsobject path, Fanty
07:22 Fanty the point of the XML is that the content people can write it
07:23 Fanty so they need an interface to do so
07:23 uschi flexforms?
07:23 Fanty tsobject path setup by a flexform? how?
07:24 Fanty using tsobject path in a way editable with a flexform *
07:24 uschi you map the element and set it to edit type tsobjectpath
07:24 uschi then you have a sysfolder or whatsoever, and the id has to be known to your lib
07:25 uschi in fact, your FCEs get stored as xml
07:25 uschi so you could use some nasty xslt oder simplexml or whatsoever to transform the output
07:26 Fanty so.. you suggest storing all the XML pages they make in a sysfolder?
07:26 uschi yes
07:27 Fanty mhm
07:27 uschi i was thinking about doing something similar, for a latin german dictionary
07:40 PaulLS Greetings!
07:44 Jigal hi Crocus, PaulLS
07:45 PaulLS I'm wondering if it's possible to include php in a template using templavoila that runs dynamically every time the page is called without destroying typo's caching mechanisms.
07:48 Denyerek I awaken
07:48 |--Holy_Devil--| hi Jigal... sorry was not on mah seat earlier
07:48 PaulLS what's most annoying, is that I'm utilizing three different phpadsnew plugins
07:48 PaulLS and each one produces the same result
07:49 PaulLS rather than display the advertisement, typo3 simply outputs the link to the advertisement image
07:49 PaulLS rather than the actual image.
07:49 PaulLS no <img src=....>
07:52 DonJ Hey I updated to typo3 4.1.1 and now I get these error messages in the extension manager:
07:52 DonJ Warning: mysql_fetch_assoc(): supplied argument is not a valid MySQL result resource in /www/data/typo3/typo3_src-4.1.1/t3lib/class.t3lib_db.php on line 796
07:52 DonJ Warning: mysql_free_result(): supplied argument is not a valid MySQL result resource in /www/data/typo3/typo3_src-4.1.1/t3lib/class.t3lib_db.php on line 823
07:52 DonJ any idea?
07:56 Crocus moin moin
07:58 Jigal DonJ: it seems that if you run Tools > Install, do a database check (and repair if necessary) that the errors go away in many cases...
07:59 Jigal PaulLS: I'm not into Templavoila, so I personally can't help you with this :-(
07:59 Jigal good morning Denyerek ;-)
08:00 DonJ Jigal ok thx
08:05 DonJ Uhm what does Invalid table and field definitions in $TCA! mean?
08:05 DonJ what is $TCA?
08:07 Jigal TCA is Table Configuration Array, which defines the editable database tables and the relationship between them and how the fields in tables are rendered in backend forms and processed in the TCE and so on.
08:08 Jigal DonJ: http://typo3.org/documentation/document-library/core-documentation/doc_core_api/4.0.0/view/4/1/
08:11 tobi uhm a client has a problem with a content filter .. he cant access files in typo3/sysext/ because there is "SEX" in sysext .. a idea what i should suggest?
08:13 m4rtijn good morning
08:15 dax77 tobi: lol - thats a problem
08:15 DonJ "There are some tables and/or fields configured in the \$TCA array which does not exist in the database! This will most likely cause you trouble with the TYPO3 backend interface!" Is there an easy way to create all of these or do I have todo this manually?
08:15 dax77 DonJ: install-tool -> compare
08:16 DonJ that's what I did and that's where i go the message
08:16 DonJ but I can't find an option to create those missing tables
08:16 DonJ "Compare with $TCA"
08:17 DonJ I created all tables with "Compare". Only extension tables seem to be incomplete
08:17 Jigal tobi: suggest to modify/kill the content filter? this is rather ridiculous IMO :-D
08:18 tobi yes, it is a bit ridiculous but you know ... clients ..
08:18 Jigal tobi: so he can't even read nice articles about Essex? LOL
08:18 tobi lol :)
08:18 dax77 :)
08:19 Fanty how do I edit the order of the fields in pages?
08:19 Fanty ie. when I edit a page
08:19 dax77 Fanty: content elements order?
08:19 Fanty no the order of the fields like title, subtitle etc in the TCEform
08:20 dax77 Fanty: thats in the tca
08:20 uschi help, please, how to delete everything realurl has cached?
08:20 uschi my langmenu is fucked up and i have a presentation this afternoon
08:21 tobi uschi i use phpMyAdmin and truncate the realurl tables
08:21 uschi all of them?
08:21 tobi usually i dont touch the alias table if i defined some redirects
08:22 uschi i did not
08:22 tobi so you can truncate them all
08:23 uschi hm, tobi, they are all empty but the error table
08:23 tobi ok, than just clear fe cache and they should be regenerated on hit
08:23 Fanty ah, the order I install extensions changed the order of the fields ;)
08:26 dax77 Fanty: yes. normally you can only append fields
08:27 uschi tobi and the rest, i can switch from german to spanish
08:28 uschi that changes the url from http://uni1.ttypista.datenwolken.net/sprachenzentrum/
08:28 uschi http://uni1.ttypista.datenwolken.net/sprachenzentrum/index.html?id=482&L=4
08:28 uschi in the first run
08:29 uschi if i click on another page
08:29 m4rtijn is there another way to copy a website without doing a DB dump?
08:29 DonJ Is there somehwere a mysql debug log?
08:29 uschi that is not available in spanish, the url becomes http://uni1.ttypista.datenwolken.net/es/sprachenzentrum/sprachen.html
08:29 uschi so es is still there
08:29 uschi if i try to switch back from spanish to german
08:30 uschi the language is not changed
08:30 uschi http://uni1.ttypista.datenwolken.net/es/sprachenzentrum/index.html?id=482&L=0
08:30 tobi uschi: it looks like you did not use special=language or typolinks for the language switch
08:31 Jigal m4rtijn: if you click on the icon of the highest element in the page tree you get the option to Export to .t3d ... this should download the entire site in an archive...
08:31 uschi it is a form with a submitbutton
08:31 m4rtijn Jigal: does that include the entire DB?
08:32 m4rtijn Jigal: but I have to reinstall all extension or not?
08:33 uschi http://phpfi.com/225597 tobi
08:33 Jigal m4rtijn: both questions: I haven't got the foggiest. I suspect that the db is included, but that the extensions must be installed seperately on the machine where you import the .t3d
08:34 tobi uschi: quick& dirty workaround: form action to /index.php
08:34 Bastiaan Can I manipulate a string in typoscript? Like the menu text? I need to replace whitespaces in the menu table cells
08:34 dax77 m4rtijn: you have to select what you want to export. you can specify the db-tables
08:34 uschi then realurl does not work anymore
08:34 uschi and that is even more important
08:34 m4rtijn thx dudes :p
08:35 |--Holy_Devil--| m4rtijn: You can select to include data from all tables to include the DB. All extension will need to be re-installed
08:36 |--Holy_Devil--| m4rtijn: I usually make a list off all extensions and install them before starting with the .t3d import
08:36 tobi uschi: but also your version does not consider realurl .. i suggest to create a onSubmit javascript that does a document.location.href to the selected language. So you can use the full generated typolink as value in your value
08:36 tobi bbs
08:36 m4rtijn thx devil
08:36 uschi no js allowed
08:36 Bastiaan So I need to replace whitespaces into &nbsp; from the content between the td's --> NO.allWrap = |*| <td> | </td> |*|
08:37 uschi tobi, the strange thing is: it worked once
08:37 pulponair hi there
08:37 |--Holy_Devil--| m4rtijn: Np's :)
08:37 Jigal hi pulponair
08:37 pulponair is anyone aware of a bandwith simulator plugin?
08:37 Bastiaan No one knows?
08:38 m4rtijn hi pulp
08:40 ctoep hi
08:40 m4rtijn hmm, slightly offtopic, does anyone know how to make two html divs, one left and one right, the same length?
08:40 m4rtijn I tried, height 100%, which I thought would make them 10% height of the parent div
08:41 m4rtijn 100%*
08:41 m4rtijn but it doesnt seem to work
08:41 ctoep a short question. is it posible to create "virtual subpages" within the menu of a page?
08:41 m4rtijn shortcut ctoep?
08:42 ctoep no, i work on a webmail extension and i want to add the folder of the imap account to the main menu
08:43 tobi uschi: ill have a look
08:43 uschi ok, it obviously is not the fault of real url
08:44 Denyerec martin
08:44 Denyerec height is one of those tricky things with HTML
08:44 Denyerec because it's modelled on a document, which naturally expands downward, locking height remains one of those annoying wishlist items
08:44 Denyerec IE, for example, will expand any container to fit the content, always.
08:44 tobi uschi: i think the problem is that you use a mix between realurl and id= .. you have to stick to /index.php when using id= because the path can change in the various languages
08:45 uschi yes ok, if i do not want to use id, what do i have to do?
08:46 tobi not possibility without javascript uschi, because the form action does change depending on the language
08:46 Jigal m4rtijn: http://www.alistapart.com/articles/multicolumnlayouts
08:47 uschi tobi, but there must be a way to get this right
08:47 uschi you could do it in php
08:47 tobi i dont think that there is a way to do it right when using a select ... at least i dont know one
08:48 uschi hm, perhaps the problem is my realurlconf?
08:49 uschi because there de is 2
08:49 tobi no, the problem is that for each language you have a completely different url, so your form needs to send the user to that url ( means different action per language) and that is not possible without javascript
08:50 uschi or a php script ...
08:50 tobi want work
08:51 uschi why with a different http header
08:51 Bastiaan How can I manipulate a string in typoscript? I need to replace whitespaces in the menu text that is placed within table cells
08:51 m4rtijn thx again jigal :p
08:51 tobi uhm i dont understand how a php script could help .. maybe a redirect php script that gets index.php?id=XX&L=1, converts it to typolink and does a redirect ..
08:52 Fanty man.. I can never find the documentation on the fields in ext_conf_template.txt...
08:52 Bastiaan finding correct docs on the typo3 website isnt easy indeed
08:53 Bastiaan the navigation is very unclear
08:53 fummeltrine m4rtijn, you can not make 2 divs the same length this way. if you want to realize a multi column layout you want to use float and clear. look into all of the multicolumn examples on the net or dig into yaml for a stable solution.
08:58 m4rtijn hmm, the page Jigal suggested seems to have a "ok" sollution for multi columns layout
09:01 neostar hi Denyerec, dax77, m4rtijn, pulponair, uschi, voidus, Jigal
09:03 m4rtijn hi neo
09:03 Denyerec lo lo
09:05 Jigal hi neostar
09:06 voidus hi neostar
09:07 pulponair anyone knows a free win software to create screencasts?
09:07 uschi wink
09:07 neostar pulponair: you mean just for capturing?
09:08 neostar pulponair: http://www.camstudio.org/ it's free
09:08 m4rtijn whats a screencast?
09:08 m4rtijn :p
09:09 fummeltrine did anyone fiddled with the foreign_selector property in irre? it does not seem to work as documented.
09:11 neostar m4rtijn: a screencast is when someone has casted a spell on your screen and things start to look weird, it also might be an indication that you've worked too long
09:12 neostar m4rtijn: on the other hand rumors on wikipedia point out that it might be a digital recording of computer screen output, also known as a video screen capture, often containing audio narration. Though I really doubt that ;-)
09:12 Jigal brb
09:13 m4rtijn ;)
09:44 Jigal re
09:45 neostar wb Jigal
09:45 Jigal B-)
09:55 neostar in the 'ts by example' core docs chapter 9.1 a content_rendering.pdf is mentioned, can someone tell me where to find it?
09:56 Jigal neostar: I'm planning to ask it as a birthday gift... ;-)
09:57 neostar well does that increase the chances that it will come into existence? even the web link http://www.typo3.com/Content-rendering_an.1102.0.html is dead
10:01 vagy hi
10:02 neostar Jigal: and kaspar promised to remove the link back in 2003, maybe I should make removing the links as my wish :-)
10:03 Jigal neostar: instead of removing the link he should upload the pdf :-)
10:03 vagy is there any known bug wrt graphicsmagick detection? In my case there is IM installed in /usr/bin/ and i want to override it with a GM installation in /var/www/cgi-bin/...i've put the precompiled binary there but the Install Tool insists on using the IM one in /usr/bin/
10:03 neostar Jigal: well that would be even better, I just didn't dare to think of that option
10:21 pulponair re
10:52 pulponair http://survey.typo3.org/index.php?id=13
10:52 pulponair for those who havent contributed yet
10:53 zatmania already done :)
10:53 zatmania hi pulp
10:58 Phlogiston_ hey guys if I want to override normal link behaviour of an IMAGE object I need to change linkWrap right? I don't want showpic to open the image, but I want to use it as a normal link... how exactly do I need to linkWrap it?
11:02 Fanty what do I do when I need to set a value in TS that needs to be urlencoded?
11:13 |Affe| Hey there
11:13 dax77 hi |Affe|
11:14 |Affe| Is there any other database where I can find extensions?
11:14 dax77 Jigal: the first one :)
11:14 |Affe| except the one on typo3 ?
11:14 dax77 |Affe|: what are you looking for?
11:15 |Affe| Im looking for some kind of a shop system where the FE user can inster ads as well
11:15 Jigal dax77: I can't publish the code since my employer or his customers own the rights...
11:15 dax77 there are many extensions out there you can download through t3x, but no other db (I think) - just mirrors
11:15 |Affe| ah ok... thanks
11:16 dax77 Jigal: ah ok
11:19 dax77 Fanty: did you try rawUrlEncode of stdWrap ?
11:20 Fanty dax77: nope, cool - thanks. I ran into some other problems taking me away from the original one :)
11:20 Jigal dax77: I think the 3rd answer is right... I don't know how to contribute (because I'm not allowed to publish what I write) ;-)
11:21 dax77 hehe
11:22 pmk65 Phlogiston: If you set the typolink property of imageLinkWrap, it wil override the showpic (clickenlarge) feature .
11:22 beev0r can i uuuh.. add parameters to php functions by using typoscript constants?
11:23 beev0r i'm using a PHP_SCRIPT on a page
11:23 beev0r and in that typoscript i call a function ArticleList($cat);
11:23 beev0r can i define $cat inside the typoscript?
11:24 Softzilla Use USER or USER_INT insteed PHP_SCRIPT
11:24 tobi you can pass parameters in ts beev0r: http://www.typo3wizard.com/en/snippets/common-problems-and-solutions/simple-userfunc.html
11:25 Softzilla is recieve reference to $config
11:25 pulponair hmmm someone should update the TV documentation
11:25 Softzilla yes...right example on this link
11:32 Denyerec uschi did we decide we liked slightly INdented or slightly OUTdented comments?
11:45 Fanty I have a template with the TS: page.10 = plugin.tx_myext_pi1 page.10.confvalue1 = somevalue etc. If I set confvalue1 = TEXT and want to set .data = TSFE:id and .wrap to hello|world I get the non-processed TS datastructure. How do I get the confvalue1 to contain 'hello<id>world' like intended?
11:47 tobi Fanty: you can use $this->cObj->cObjGetSingle
11:48 Fanty tobi: what does that function return/do?
11:49 tobi you pass a typoscript object and it returns the result
11:50 Fanty cool, thanks :)
11:57 pmk65 Fanty: You can't set "page.10 = plugin.tx_myext_pi1" in typoscript. That's why it won't process your TS.
11:58 Fanty pmk65: sorry. page.10 < plugin.tx_myext_pi1
12:03 pmk65 Fanty: ok, then try this:
12:03 pmk65 page.10 = plugin.tx_myext_pi1
12:03 pmk65 page.20.confvalue1.dataWrap = Hello {TSFE:id} World
12:03 pmk65 Sorry, should have been:
12:03 pmk65 page.10 <plugin.tx_myext_pi1
12:03 pmk65 page.20.confvalue1.dataWrap = Hello {TSFE:id} World
12:10 Fanty pmk65: that would result in the plugin not being able to access the confvalue1. The solution is as tobi said to use the function to render the TS object
12:13 pmk65 Fanty: That's standard behaviour. If you want that value passed to your PHP file, you'll have to use the cObj function to retrieve it.
12:14 Ries any chc_forum user around?
12:15 pmk65 Fanty: Then in your PHP you do something like this to get the TS value into PHP.
12:15 pmk65 $confvalue1 = $this->cObj->stdWrap($this->conf['confvalue1'], $this->conf['confvalue1.']);
12:18 pmk65 I have installed chc_forum a couple times. why?
12:19 Phlogiston_ is this code correct to link that image to the page 99?
12:19 Phlogiston_ $lconf["image."]["imageLinkWrap"] = 0;
12:19 Phlogiston_ $lconf["image."]["stdWrap."]["typolink."]["parameter"] = "99";
12:19 Phlogiston_ $theImgCode = $this->cObj->IMAGE($lconf["image."]);
12:19 Phlogiston_ It does not work, so whats wrong?
12:20 m4rtijn Phlogiston_ pls dontpost code in the channel, use phpfi.com
12:20 m4rtijn dont post *
12:21 Phlogiston_ m4rtijn: ok sorry
12:21 pmk65 Phlogiston: Does the image show up?
12:23 Ammler This channel is being logged <- where is the log viewable?
12:31 zatmania http://adsoftheworld.com/media/ambient/jobsintown_de_the_ass_kisser_project?size=_original
12:31 zatmania lol
12:32 m4rtijn hehe
12:38 Ries Ammler: http://www.rvantwisk.nl/typo3-irc-log.html
12:39 Ammler Ries: thx.
12:41 neostar Ries: thanks, I didn't know this
12:43 Ries neostar: google knew, but I lost a years log files... I still need to put it bacj on... it's all in 'lost+found+ now :s
12:45 Phlogiston_ hey guys could anyone help me with this peace of code: http://phpfi.com/225646, I want to set a link to that image that it links to the same page as the link under details? To what do I need to set the $lconf["image."]["stdWrap."]["typolink."]["parameter"] = which I commented out for now... or am I completely wrong?
13:26 Ries hey gerards
13:27 gerards morning everyone, Ries
13:42 Fanty hmm.. how do I edit a locallang.xml file on the server from the backend?
13:44 gerards Fanty: i think you can try an extension called llxml.
13:44 gerards I <em>THINK</em> it does what you want.
13:45 dax77 Fanty: or you install quixplorer ;)
13:45 Fanty quixplorer?
13:46 dax77 kind of fileexplorer
13:46 dax77 an extension :)
13:47 dax77 I can't live without it anymore
13:50 Fanty dax77: I've installed it.. how do I use it? ;)
13:51 Ries Fanty: logout and login, did you do that?
13:52 dax77 or reload the page
13:52 dax77 hi Ries :)
13:52 Fanty diden't press "update" when it asked to set a screen full of configuration
13:53 Fanty so it didnt install :)
13:53 Ries Ahhh
13:53 Ries Hey dax77
13:53 delmonico hi
13:53 Ries dax77: We need to make an application with a lot of forms, do you know any GUI tool to create forms?
13:53 Fanty wee
13:53 Fanty Notice: Undefined index: TYPO3_CONF_VARS in /var/www/tut2/typo3conf/ext/t3quixplorer/mod1/conf.php on line 7
13:53 Fanty Notice: unserialize() [function.unserialize]: Argument is not a string in /var/www/tut2/typo3conf/ext/t3quixplorer/mod1/conf.php on line 7
13:53 delmonico is it possible to disable 'page wizard' and 'page content wizard'? I think they're confusing because they don't change a lot in the behaviour
13:54 delmonico or at least disable the 'select template' step for the content wizard
13:54 dax77 Ries: at my company they are evaluating a guibuilder - I heard that google has a nice tool
13:55 Ries Fanty: I think the quixplorer php checker is a bit buggu,,,,
13:55 Ries dax77: can I have the name of the builder???
13:56 dax77 http://code.google.com/webtoolkit/
13:57 delmonico I was searching for something like this some days before
13:58 delmonico turned out I wrote my own crappy form library
13:58 Ries delmonico: basicly it's mostly GUI so we can quickly craft something up
13:58 Ries and show that to the right people
13:58 Ries if they approve, we can start implementing
13:59 Fanty why on earth would TYPO3_CONF_VARS not be accessible in the mod1 part of that extension.. makes no sense...!
14:00 Ries Fanty: it was not loaded as a global?
14:01 Fanty it looks as it should in conf.php -- $tmp_config = unserialize($GLOBALS["TYPO3_CONF_VARS"]["EXT"]["extConf"]["t3quixplorer"]);
14:04 Ries well, like I said... I believe it's a bit buggy....
14:05 Fanty makes no sense TYPO3_CONF_VARS aren't set
14:10 delmonico hey dr_wiki is cool
14:10 delmonico never set up mediawiki in 3 minutes :)
14:13 Fanty dax77: do you just accept the errors when using quixplorer?
14:14 dax77 Fanty: I don't have errors
14:15 dax77 what T3 version are you using?
14:15 Jigal Fanty: I just looked at the mod1/index.php of an extension written by a third party and it used http://phpfi.com/225674 to initialize before the first class definition in the script...
14:16 Fanty dax77: 4.1 / 4.1.1
14:17 dax77 hmmm, Im using 4.0.X
14:17 Fanty It makes errors on a clean 4.1
14:17 Fanty its the only extension I
14:17 Fanty 've installed on that site
14:19 dax77 Fanty you could try an older version: 1.6.0
14:20 Fanty how do I get older versions?
14:20 Fanty for some reason the import from TER dosen't find it
14:20 Fanty and I can only find 1.7.0 when browsing TER in a browser
14:22 dax77 you have to search for the ext using the ext-manager
14:22 dax77 than click on the ext-name
14:22 dax77 Fanty: I just found it that way
14:23 dax77 Fanty: did you update your extension list?
14:24 Fanty searching for t3quixplorer in the EM import tool dosent find anything
14:24 Fanty yes
14:25 dax77 ah, did you disable the "show only secure ext" option?
14:26 Fanty where do I disable that option?
14:27 dax77 dropdown-box settings
14:28 Fanty found it.. and when I try to install 1.6.0 i get Error: The datatransfer did not succeed. Error: MD5 hash of downloaded file not as expected:
14:28 Fanty 5f909656d44ea0eb75496a43b6ca8122 !=
14:28 dax77 mom, I'll send you mine
14:28 dax77 email?
14:34 Fanty yea, this one dosen't have any errors :)
14:35 Fanty thanks dax77
14:39 dax77 re
14:44 pulponair TATATAT:www.chaosbutze.de/dragndrop.avi
14:45 Phlogiston_ hey guys could anyone help me with this peace of code: http://phpfi.com/225646, I want to set a link to that image that it links to the same page as the link under details? To what do I need to set the $lconf["image."]["stdWrap."]["typolink."]["parameter"] = which I commented out for now... or am I completely wrong?
14:49 gerards hi Phlogiston_. details link is linked to the same current page.
14:49 gerards Phlogiston_: if you want the image to link back to the same current page, change "99" to GLOBALS['TSFE']->id
14:50 Phlogiston_ gerards: but the syntax is correct? because it does not work with 99
14:50 dax77 wasn't it = |id
14:51 dax77 because parameters also contains the page type
14:51 dax77 you'll find out :)
14:51 dax77 its all in TSref
14:51 dax77 g2g cu
14:52 gerards Phlogiston_: please check tsref. I don't remember. but it looks good.
14:52 Phlogiston_ I'll try out ;)
14:52 gerards probably 99 doesn't exist in your page tree.
14:53 gerards Phlogiston_: if typolink finds that 99 doesn't exist, it willnot make the link.
14:54 Phlogiston_ ah ok then its clear :)
14:54 pulponair uschi:are you arround?
14:54 Phlogiston_ gerards: I get a parse error with: $lconf["image."]["stdWrap."]["typolink."]["parameter"] = GLOBALS['TSFE']->id;
14:55 gerards sorry
14:55 Phlogiston_ can I access GLOBALS like this?
14:55 gerards its $GLOBALS
14:55 Phlogiston_ of course :-D
14:56 Phlogiston_ hmm ok this really links to the current page and is of course not what I want, (sorry my fault), but I think that Details does not link to current page
14:56 Phlogiston_ I'd like to link to same page as done here with the name: $markerArray["###USERNAME###"] = $this->pi_linkTP($row["username"],array($this->prefixId."[pointer]" => $this->piVars['pointer'], $this->prefixId."[feuser]" => $row['uid']),1);
15:01 Phlogiston_ I don't understand the part with the array btw...
15:03 m4rtijn hey, sry I have to go home quick and need to finish smth.. :p..
15:03 m4rtijn is there a way to repeat a bckgrnd image in a GMENU?
15:03 m4rtijn normally I would google for a while.. but no time..
15:10 af_ I have created a page with a translation in another language. how could I view default language or the other in fe?
15:12 gerards Phlogiston_: the array adds certain parameters to the link's href
15:13 gerards Phlogiston_: as far as i see, pi_linkTP does point back to the same current page.
15:13 Phlogiston_ yes... these parameters are important, becuase they tell the ext to load the corrent site ...
15:14 gerards http://typo3.org/fileadmin/typo3api-4.0.0/df/d32/classtslib__pibase.html#98a2fc5cad62a5b09e1b6ffb0968b404
15:14 Phlogiston_ hmm nope, the link generated is: http://****/teilnehmer-liste/?tx_feusersview_pi1%5Bfeuser%5D=2&cHash=1277a31877
15:14 gerards the link says that the 4th parameter is the alternate page id, but you don't have a 4th parameter there.
15:15 Phlogiston_ hmm I'm sorry... but the link does not really change the page I think it just tells the plugin to display something else?
15:16 gerards yes. it doesn't change the page. it tells the plugin to display something else.
15:16 Phlogiston_ so the magic is in that array... can I pass that array similarly to my IMAGE->stdWrap->typolink? or do I need another way?
15:17 gerards Phlogiston_: yes. please use additionalParams of typolink
15:17 Phlogiston_ do I need to use additional params? additionalParams
15:17 gerards http://typo3.org/documentation/document-library/references/doc_core_tsref/4.0.0/view/5/8/
15:17 Phlogiston_ ok
15:18 Phlogiston_ now I'm wondering how exactly to add those informations from the array, but i will try
15:20 Phlogiston_ I need to set params too, or is additionalParams enough?
15:20 af_ http://typo3.org/documentation/tips-tricks/multi-language-sites-in-typo3/ I find this on multilingual, but I can't make it work
15:22 gerards Phlogiston_: you need params.
15:22 gerards af_: did you read kaspers frontend localization guide?
15:22 Phlogiston_ but I don't know what params, and how to add them... isn't it possible to use a userfunc for that and "map" it on the IMAGE object?
15:23 gerards af_ http://typo3.org/documentation/document-library/core-documentation/doc_l10nguide/current/
15:23 gerards you know the params Phlogiston_. just look at the link you pasted a few minutes ago http://****/teilnehmer-liste/?tx_feusersview_pi1%5Bfeuser%5D=2&cHash=1277a31877
15:24 gerards Phlogiston_: basically its "&tx_feusersview........=2"
15:24 Phlogiston_ yes but these params depend on the image you can click... and the hash is generated too... so I don't think this will work as expected
15:25 gerards ok sure.
15:29 Phlogiston_ ah sad... I would really like to link the image
15:30 Phlogiston_ do you know another extension that does this?
15:36 Phlogiston_ so I could like how its done there
15:42 Phlogiston_ if anyone interested I found out how to do it :)
15:42 Phlogiston_ gerards: I'm happy and thanks a lot for your help
15:42 gerards no problem. you did it yourself.
15:43 Phlogiston_ pi_linkTP($theImgCode,array($this->prefixId."[pointer]" => $this->piVars['pointer'], $this->prefixId."[feuser]" => $row['uid']),1);
15:43 Phlogiston_ I used this function and replaced the string just by the image, so simple :)
15:50 af_ uhm, no way
15:50 af_ it's tough
15:55 Bastiaan Is it possible to store extentions per site? Now I have all extentions available for all websites. This gives problems for buggy extentions as It will be applied for all websites.
15:56 Bastiaan Is it possible to store extentions ONLY per site? <--
15:56 uschi hi folks :)
15:57 Ries Bastiaan: only if you have different typo3 installations
15:57 uschi Bastiaan, you mean inside one typo3 installation?
15:57 uschi hey Ries :))
15:57 Ries if you have more then one site in a tree then it might not be possible, with modern extensions it shouldn't be a ussue
15:57 Ries old extensions might always want to include the TS
15:57 Ries Hey honney
15:58 Bastiaan There is a bug in TempVoila that is giving the problems
15:58 Ries Bastiaan: I don't think it should give a problem on a other site
15:58 Bastiaan Specific users cant 'un-hide' there created pages
15:58 Ries Bastiaan: if you are 10000% sure you can post it on buftrack
15:59 uschi Bastiaan, do those users have acces to the hide page field?
15:59 uschi because in my installation i had the problem as well
16:00 uschi but this was not a bug in tv, but i did not allow the hide field in Allowed excludefields
16:00 Bastiaan Yep ... but I dont want to use tempvoila extention for one specific site
16:01 uschi in which case perhaps you should setup your page object without tv?
16:01 Bastiaan hmm so perhaps I still do not understand the configuration then? ;)
16:01 uschi i do not know, sebastian, but how is your page for that page configured?
16:01 Bastiaan Let me test a bit more first ...
16:14 ericj__ I have a quick question about the GMENU. I want to extend an image in the background, but in IE7, the image is broken and spaced. FF looks fine. Any ideas?
16:18 roam Sometimes when I try to edit a page content which is an extension I get "You have chosen to open alt_doc.php which is a php-script[...] What should Firefox do with this File?[...]". What causes this and how can I fix it?
16:20 af_ http://typo3.org/documentation/document-library/core-documentation/doc_l10nguide/current/ -> I am not able to make the menu appears
16:59 dax77 hi @all
16:59 uschi hi dax77 :)
16:59 elbart hi @ all
17:05 ericj__ for the GMENU, is there an equivalent to "noTrimWrap"? I am wanting to put a space between the <a> and the <img> tags. I think this will resolve my issue with having a GMENU with an extended background image in IE...
17:27 neostar ericj__: what about a &nbsp; ?
17:48 MartinMai_ is there a overview about typo3_conf_vars (need to display some Message at the BE login page )
17:48 MartinMai_ ?
17:55 ericj__ neostar:well, I got a space in there through some hacking around, but there is still this weird bug where IE is putting a gap between the GMENU items so the background image is broken. Also, &nbsp; puts a literal space after the tag, so it makes the menu item too large.
17:58 neostar ericj__: maybe you should try changing the doctype to trigger a standard compliant rendering mode
18:15 ericj__ neostar: I got it working... It required me to wrap each item in a div and style appropriately for IE. I had to give each item the following styles: padding-top:3px; margin-top:-3px;
18:15 ericj__ thanks for the help
18:15 NoNick Need some help installing typo3. Just downloaded the 4.1.1 source+dummy, but when I point the browser to the location on the server all I get is a blank page. What could be the problem?
18:16 neostar ericj__: thanks for letting us know about the solution :)
18:18 NoNick Anyone???
18:19 gerards NoNick could be a memory problem.
18:19 gerards check your logs.
18:20 gerards logs = server logs.
18:21 gerards logs = server logs.
18:21 gerards NoNick could be a memory problem.
18:21 gerards check your logs.
18:21 gerards logs = server logs.
18:21 NoNick gerards: Apache log does not mention anything.
18:22 gerards not even a 200?
18:22 NoNick No.
18:23 NoNick Nothing. Tried error_reporting(E_ALL) and a lot of notices came in the log. Nothing else.
18:24 NoNick Whoops sorry wrong log. There are 200s in the access log.
18:25 gerards and if you type www.myserver.com/typo3 what do you see?
18:25 gerards (i'm assume there's nothing in your apache error logs
18:26 gerards )
18:26 NoNick No nothing in the error logs.
18:26 gerards and if you type www.myserver.com/typo3 what do you see?
18:26 NoNick I see a blank page.
18:27 neostar NoNick: have you used the gzipped dummy package, because the zip version doesn't contain the symlinks if I remember correctly
18:27 NoNick If I turn on E_ALL som notices are shown nothing else.
18:27 NoNick neostar: No, I used the zipped version. Does that mean I have to set up symlinks?
18:27 NoNick There are no symlinks.
18:28 neostar yes definitely
18:28 neostar I would grab the gz version and unpack that instead of the zip
18:28 gerards man. we definitely need better documentations...
18:28 neostar yep
18:28 NoNick I will try that. Thanks so far.
18:29 neostar NoNick: should work then, at least it worked out of the box for me
18:29 NoNick Or maybe I need more patience reading documentation :-)
18:29 uschi right you are, gerards
18:29 gerards NoNick: no. some of the docs are pretty badly organized.
18:29 neostar well there are a lot of docs, but it's not that satisfying
18:31 neostar I'm thinking of getting rid of css styled content and defining the content items on my own
18:32 gerards neostar, i'm getting a little irritated with css-styled-content myself.
18:33 neostar gerards: I can understand that, I had written such a neat template, and now the output looks bloated and wrapped in unnecessary divs
18:34 gerards that's the problem with a style that fits EVERYONE.
18:34 gerards its great that it works out of the box.
18:35 gerards but sometimes it irritates me that its got all these weirdo styles and stuff.
18:35 gerards i'm probably autistic.
18:36 neostar it went from 8k for css and html to 24k and it adds nothing to the page
18:37 neostar gerards: the css definitely isn't very clean
18:38 gerards neostar it works outtadabox. that's good i guess :)
18:39 neostar gerards: that's the only plus
18:40 neostar is there a way to get rid of all the comments in the output?
18:48 NoNick Now I got symlinks, but still a blank page?
18:49 neostar do the symlinks get you to your typo3 folder?
18:49 NoNick Yes.
18:50 neostar well I would try first with a local LAMP, WAMP install to test TYPO3 just to make sure you know the general process
19:24 Denyerec Hallo!
19:25 neostar Denyerec: Bonjour
19:25 Denyerec hey neo
19:25 roam Sometimes when I try to edit a page content which is an extension I get "You have chosen to open alt_doc.php which is a php-script[...] What should Firefox do with this File?[...]". What causes this and how can I fix it?
19:25 neostar hey Denyerec
19:27 Denyerec Oooh ?
19:27 neostar is there a good reason to stick with css styled content?
19:28 Denyerec I mean if I don't include it in my static templates, i don't see anything!
19:28 neostar fear of the unknown :-)
19:28 neostar Denyerec: well you'll have to set your own content elements
19:29 Denyerec How so ?
19:29 Denyerec this is a little way over my hea.
19:29 Denyerec *head
19:29 neostar I'm in the process of getting my user defined elements together with templavoila
19:29 neostar like it's described in the ftb manual
19:29 Denyerec Ah, so you would add pretty much everything as an FCE
19:29 Denyerec rather than using the default types?
19:30 neostar Denyerec: right, it gives me much cleaner code and I don't want to use the RTE anyway
19:30 FloLeBlanc hi all
19:30 FloLeBlanc anyone still awake? :)
19:30 neostar Denyerec: I hope that my idea works out, but the code output looks so much cleaner
19:30 neostar FloLeBlanc: it's only 9:30pm here
19:31 neostar Denyerec: any suggestions why I should stay away from this idea? because I like it so far4
19:31 Denyerec "more work"
19:32 neostar Denyerec: and also more control of the output, especially for a high traffic site cleaner code means lower bandwidth usage
19:33 Denyerec This much is true
19:33 Denyerec though my clients like the RTA
19:33 Denyerec RTE
19:34 neostar Denyerec: I can understand that, but I want to limit errors so just providing plain text input boxes is probably the safest way and I'm also the one who will be responsible for the content
19:34 FloLeBlanc does anyone have an idea why using SET password = md5(password) does not set the same result as the md5 when using the login of t3 ? (utf8_general_ci)
19:34 Denyerec Ah in which case yes, you're most likely OK
19:34 FloLeBlanc (only when including special chars like ö ä ü etc)
19:35 neostar Denyerec: definitely :)
19:47 Denyerec If I want to orderby on a select in TS, which field is linked to a content elements ordering on the page?
19:51 brain-xy hey Denyerec :)
19:51 Denyerec hey brain
19:51 Denyerec I have a bit of a sorting issue
19:51 Ries Denyerec: try teh sorting field?
19:52 gerards huh?
19:52 brain-xy :P
19:53 gerards Denyerec: what Ries said.
19:53 gerards hey brain. just woke up?
19:53 FloLeBlanc What can be the problem: I have the query UPDATE fe_users SET password=md5('sömepass') WHERE uid='123' => I execute this query in php => wrongly md5'ed, I do it in phpmyadmin => correct (only happens with umlauts)
19:53 gerards ;)
19:53 Denyerec orderby: sorting
19:53 max_muetze good evening, guys and girls ;)
19:53 Denyerec Ok.
19:53 Denyerec Weird as the default ordering is totally, well, unexplainable.
19:53 brain-xy no no.. i'm alive again for 10 hours now :)
19:54 gerards nice brain-xy.
19:54 max_muetze can you tell me how to "echo" a php-variable with a little php-file?
19:54 gerards FloLeBlanc: your terminal is not utf8 compliant?
19:54 Denyerec thanks ries
19:54 FloLeBlanc gerards: request for comment please :)
19:54 Denyerec mv ~/ries ~/Oracle
19:55 ericj__ lol
19:56 gerards FloLeBlanc: I assume that your database is utf8 already. I assume that your CONNECTION to the DB is utf8, so now i can only think that the termianl that you used is does not understand utf8 characters?
19:56 gerards since phpmyadmin does understand it, it has no problems?
19:56 gerards just a guess.
19:56 FloLeBlanc gerards I execute the query inside a php file
19:56 FloLeBlanc hmm
19:57 FloLeBlanc perhaps I will use the t3 function with my own class seems to work with that
20:12 Denyerec does commerce have a manual yet ?
20:12 Ries Denyerec: I think they are working on it
20:12 Denyerec It looked that way when I last looked :)
20:13 Denyerec ToDO: Write the manual
20:13 Denyerec was about the sum of it.
20:24 FloLeBlanc can I use the DBgetUpdate function in my own php files?
20:26 a7p hi everyone ... I'd like to have an "artistic"-Startpage which I want to organize by having each Menu-Item wrapped in a div-Tag with another ID.
20:26 a7p Does anyone have an idea?
20:31 gerards a7p: i'm sure not a lot of us understand what exactly you want.
20:33 a7p gerards, I want to have every menu-item wrapped into another <div id="item1">-Tag.
20:35 gerards ahh.
20:35 gerards a7p: please use TMENU.NO.warpItemAndSub
20:36 gerards sorry i think that should be TMENU.NO.wrapItemAndSub. please check tsref
20:36 gerards http://typo3.org/documentation/document-library/references/doc_core_tsref/4.0.0/view/toc/0/
20:36 gerards look under tmenuitem.
20:38 a7p http://www.oswd.org/design/preview/id/1709 <- this is what I want to archive.
20:39 gerards a7p: its better if you just create a few normal typolinks instead.
20:39 gerards because hmenus are automatically generated.
20:39 gerards if someone makes a new page in the page tree, where are you going to put it?
20:40 a7p gerards, I thought I'd create 20 div-positionioned and leave most of them unused ...
20:40 a7p but you are right, I could do it manually ... the Startpage won't change a lot.
20:41 gerards ahh....
20:41 gerards ok then use the TMENUITEM.wrapItemAndSub.
20:41 gerards i think its a stdWrap.
20:54 bane007 hi there! i have problem with <div class="csc-header csc-header-n1"><h1 class="csc-firstHeader">Albumi</h1><img src="clear.gif" width="1" height="5" border="0" class="spacer-gif" alt="" title="" /><br /></div> two breaks afeter h1 caption. i would like to remove that space-gif tag... where could i do that? thanks for any answer!
20:57 j0hndeere Good afternoon, earthlings.
21:00 gerards bane007: use HTMLparser with denyTags
21:00 gerards bane007: use HTMLparser with denyTags in typoscript
21:02 gerards bane007: my mistake its called removeTags. not denyTags http://typo3.org/documentation/document-library/references/doc_core_tsref/4.0.0/view/5/17/
21:02 gerards bane007: note you also need to set allowTags correctly, or nothing will be allowed by HTMLparser.
21:03 gerards good afternoon johnnydeer
21:05 neostar hey j0hndeere
21:06 neostar I want to integrate timtab into a normal site design, how difficult would you rate this, to me atm it seems rather complicated
21:21 j0hndeere neostar: I dunno... complicated and difficult aren't necessarily the same thing
21:23 neostar j0hndeere: the main problem as far as I've seen it is that timtab needs it's styling template, and the theme integration looks complicated to me
21:25 pulponair uschi: are you arround?
21:32 j0hndeere we're talking about an already up-and-running-site?
21:34 neostar j0hndeere: no I've just designed the html template and now I'm looking how to integrate everything before I run into a dead end
21:36 rgl hi
21:36 szept hello
21:36 szept all
21:37 j0hndeere Hi.
21:37 j0hndeere well, I'm glad I'm not having to figure it out just now ;)
21:37 szept anybody knows any nice chanels on this server?
21:37 j0hndeere not this one. We're mean like ferrets.
21:37 rgl I just installed typo3. I see that I have to build a template, is the Modern Template Building really the state-of-the-art? since its from 2004?
21:38 neostar j0hndeere: I guess that answers my question to a certain degree :)
21:38 j0hndeere rgl: It still works. Nothing's significantly different functionally
21:38 j0hndeere now's the time to figure it out though, neostar, if you're ever going to
21:39 rgl j0hndeere, I see. so its our best bet for learning typo templates?
21:39 neostar j0hndeere: I guess I'll start with the page itself and figure out how to style the blog in a second step
21:40 j0hndeere it's an excellent introduction into how TYPO3 handles templates, rgl
21:40 rgl j0hndeere, ok. thx. I'll go reading it now :D
21:40 neostar rgl: after you've finished the mtb tutorial I would suggest looking into the ftb tutorial to see which fits more your needs
21:41 rgl neostar, can you provide a link for "ftb"?
21:42 neostar rgl: http://typo3.org/documentation/document-library/tutorials/doc_tut_ftb1/current/
21:42 rgl neostar, ah its the "Futuristic Template Building (doc_tut_ftb1)"?
21:42 gerards "we like ferrets"?
21:42 neostar rgl: right
21:42 rgl neostar, ok. thx :D
21:43 ericj__ rgl: I agree with neostar. it goes more into using templavoila and FCEs which I have found to be rather useful
21:43 ericj__ speaking of which, what are some good alternatives to TV?
21:43 rgl ericj__, what is FCE?
21:44 ericj__ flexible content element
21:44 ericj__ rgl: you can read more about them in the ftb tutorial, here's the specific link: http://typo3.org/documentation/document-library/tutorials/doc_tut_ftb1/1.0.1/view/1/4/
21:45 rgl ericj__, ah ok. thx :D
21:45 ericj__ np :)
21:54 ericj__ gerards: ferrets can be rather ornery creatures... yeah they lie around and usually smell pretty bad, but don't let the laziness fool you, they can be mean! so... I would have to agree with j0hndeere on all points :D
21:55 solshark Hello all. It's possible to enable CAPTCHA in fe_user_register?
21:56 gerards so we eat ferrets..... nice.
21:57 solshark In fe_user_register changelog i find record about support CAPTCHA feture, but can't find how i can enable this feature. Any example?
21:58 gerards solshark: sorry no idea
21:59 solshark gerards: :( Ok. I'm try insert template placeholders from sr_freecap manual, but it's isn't work. Google find only description of same problem.
21:59 j0hndeere ferret actually isn't bad.
22:00 Denyerec Oh, I took a picture of a sheep at the weekend: http://www.denyerec.co.uk/gallery.php?pic=yorkshireLamb1
22:00 gerards solshark: someone else will have to help you pal. sorry i've no idea
22:00 gerards :)
22:00 j0hndeere It's kind of like rabbit, but a little more flavorful.
22:00 Denyerec Well, a lamb actually.
22:00 Denyerec And thought I'd share, seeing as how you were on about eating things.
22:00 j0hndeere Lamb is delicious.
22:00 mizo Hey'all. Anybody got an idea how to wrap two FCE fieldname-values?
22:01 ericj__ well, not as delicious as babies. babies taste like chicken... according to Eddie Izzard anyway
22:01 neostar j0hndeere: you are consuming meat? I thought you weren't so human ;-)
22:02 gerards mizo: more info please.
22:02 j0hndeere The elders believe it would be distasteful to discuss the viability of humans as food.
22:02 j0hndeere But many of the other mammals are quite palatable.
22:02 ericj__ distasteful... nice choice of words
22:02 neostar j0hndeere: well it would help on some of our problems
22:02 gerards your elders seem to be nice people.
22:04 neostar j0hndeere: we could offer you our prisoners though I'm not sure how to prepare them best for dinner
22:04 j0hndeere The elders certainly possess a high degree of wisdom. We trust them.
22:04 j0hndeere neostar: We didn't come here to take your problems upon ourselves.
22:05 neostar j0hndeere: I might find some good recipes :-)
22:06 neostar j0hndeere: there might be some tribal people who have good recipes
22:06 ericj__ neostar: well, prisoners would be good if you kept them in small confined cells. this would keep the meat tender, not gamy and tough like the ones that get a lot of activity
22:07 j0hndeere I am trying to resist the strong temptation to disobey the elders and discuss your topic. But I cannot.
22:07 neostar ericj__: well we can change that if j0hndeere would propose it to the elders
22:07 j0hndeere Suffice it to say that we have enough rations for at least several more centuries.
22:08 neostar j0hndeere: doesn't sound that delicious to me
22:08 j0hndeere Nutritive value is more important than flavor.
22:08 j0hndeere This is true in programming as in victuals.
22:09 ericj__ neostar: j0hndeere doesn't sound delicious to me either... plus if we ate him, we couldn't get anymore insight from the elders
22:10 ericj__ j0hndeere: that is very true. gold-plating an interface is pointless if you don't have functionality
22:10 neostar j0hndeere: I thought programming is an art, an art should be aesthetic
22:12 j0hndeere It is said that one who is good at something makes his field a science; but one who is great makes his field an art.
22:12 j0hndeere But which would you rather have: A painting of a Ferrari, or a functional Ferrari?
22:13 ericj__ j0hndeere: good quote, mind if I use it?
22:13 j0hndeere Both are art in their own way.
22:13 j0hndeere It's not mine, so I couldn't restrict your propogation.
22:13 pulponair hi there
22:13 ericj__ hello
22:14 pulponair anyone uses TV?
22:14 bedlamhotel hey pulp. I do--if it's quick I may be able to answer the question...
22:15 ericj__ pulponair: I use TV as well, so I will see if I can help, whatcha got?
22:17 pulponair i just put up an extension which enables drag n drop in TV so maybe you guys wanna test it
22:18 pulponair see http://www.chaosbutze.de/dragndrop2.avi for a short demonstration
22:18 neostar pulponair: sweet
22:19 pulponair yeah but not full featured i just noticed an ugly deletion bug
22:19 pulponair but anyway it is on its way
22:19 ericj__ pulponair: that looks awesome
22:19 pulponair ericj__: thank you there is still some work to do
22:22 j0hndeere drag and drop TV would be a big win.
22:27 pulponair j0hndeere: : yeah it is :)
22:28 neostar good night
22:29 pulponair i gotta sleep if you like go and try it it is named nh_tvdragndrop and will be avaible in ter ...but beware it is very alpha
22:33 gerards re
22:35 bedlamhotel pulp: sorry. At the exact instant I posted that response a meeting happened :-s
22:35 bedlamhotel Sounds very interesting...
22:41 Denyerec pulp
22:41 Denyerec I check your video now
22:43 Denyerec damn
22:43 Denyerec how long did that take to code dude?
22:43 Denyerec looks aweoms
22:44 pulponair Denyerec: half a day
22:44 Denyerec damn :/
22:44 Denyerec you're out there dude.
22:44 Denyerec way out there.
22:44 pulponair Denyerec: but as i said before there are some clipboard issues to solve so it is very beta atm
22:44 Denyerec Still, it's an impressive start
22:45 pulponair Denyerec: anyway i loaded it up to ter so people can play arround with
22:45 pulponair Denyerec: i ll finish it this weekend i guess

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