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00:01 tansta good morning my typo3 buddy :)
00:03 tansta gosh that sound gay
00:03 tansta sorry guys ;)
00:05 Ries Good morning tansta
00:05 Ries yeaa that sounds kinda gay :D
00:05 tansta hahaha crap
00:06 tansta Ries: to developed custom extension do i need Object oriented PHP knowledge ?
00:16 Denyerec SUPER annoying but in Templatevoila
00:16 Denyerec and I mean MONSTER FREAKING HUGELY annoying
00:16 Denyerec say you have a template all done, and you modify the HTML file
00:17 Denyerec in the OLD TV you would go to the TV module, click the template, cilck "update mapping", click save and return, and you were done.
00:17 Denyerec Now you have to modify the TS/DO which destroys any custom XML
00:17 Denyerec and if you DON'T go to edit the DS/TO then your site is blank until you do.
00:17 Denyerec major pissing annoyance.
00:22 Denyerec anyway, sleep.
00:35 brain_xy tansta .. nice message above :P
00:36 brain_xy hihih.. http://www.adultswim.com/games/fiveMinutes/
01:17 Ries tansta: it's always good to think object oriented
01:18 Ries however php and your boss doesn't really force you to think OO
01:22 gerards bosses never think OO.
01:33 Ries gerards: Bosses think $$
01:34 brain-xy *nod*
02:17 Rocketjock Hello Everyone
02:36 jsfan hi :)
02:36 jsfan Ries, are you here?
02:38 dalma Hi people! I'm trying to make a menu including the subtitle for each page in each menu item. My typoscript is:
02:38 dalma lib.mainMenu.1 = TMENU
02:38 dalma lib.mainMenu.1.NO {
02:38 dalma allWrap.insertData = 1
02:38 dalma allWrap = <li>|<p class="pieBoton">{page:subtitle}</p></li>
02:38 dalma }
02:39 dalma but this TS only shows the subtitle of the CURRENT PAGE, how can I instruct the HMENU to show the subtitle of each page? (for each iteration)
02:41 jsfan dalma, why don't you just use a normal menu that uses the subtitle instead of the title?
02:41 jsfan or do you want it in addition to the title?
02:41 dalma I need the title linked, like in a normal menu, but I also need the subtitle, nos linked
02:41 dalma exactly, I need the subtitle in addition to the title
02:42 dalma I expended some hours trying and searching, but I can't reach a positive result :(
02:43 dalma spent :), sorry.
02:46 dalma not a clue?
02:47 jsfan dalma, one sec
02:47 dalma sure, thanks!
02:51 jsfan dalma, what about something like .before.field = subtitle
02:51 jsfan ?
02:52 jsfan maybe .before.data = field:subtitle
02:52 dalma let me look
02:54 jsfan oh, you want it as after, i reckon...
02:54 dalma mhh... yes, but I need the subtitle AFTER the menu item, and wrapped with some HTML. sorry about my simple questions, I'm very new at typo3
02:55 dalma .after.data = field:subtitle works great, but I need the wrapping
02:57 jsfan afterWrap
02:57 jsfan rtfm ;) http://typo3.org/documentation/document-library/references/doc_core_tsref/4.0.0/view/10/8/
03:00 dalma great! many thanks jsfan, I will try it right now
03:00 jsfan dalma, no worries :)
03:08 dalma jsfan, It works fine! thanks again. See you!
03:08 dalma bye
03:20 Ries jsfan: what's up?
03:23 jsfan Ries!
03:23 jsfan you know sr_feuser_register well?
03:27 jsfan Ries, I'd like to extend it so that it allows you to edit related records through a thickbox layer. however, the code is massive.
03:27 Ries jsfan: Not well... last time I use it was 2 years ago
03:28 jsfan Ries, ok. i'll have a look at the source code then... just saw your name in the source code and thought you might be a guru on this extension ;)
03:29 jsfan Ries, i'll be away for a while... maybe chat to you later if you're still around then.
03:29 Ries jsfan: I added indeed some hooks and some checkbox functions
03:30 Ries I also used it to extend it, ask some additional questions
03:30 Ries But I don't like the extension... for a project I am currently making
03:30 Ries I created my own registration
03:30 jsfan i actually wanted to write something from scratch myself. but it is so tedious :(
03:31 jsfan i'd like people to be able to select related records like in the BE but also be able to click a link that opens a layer for a new record.
03:31 jsfan bbiab
03:32 Ries jsfan: I never make that in the FE
03:40 gerards whew... Ries. i just installed openlaszlo.
03:41 gerards i made the mistake of running both Tomcat and OL's bundled tomcat at the same time. OL has a bundled tomcat.
03:42 gerards as a result JAVA_HOME was pointing at wrong places... I HATE JAVA.
03:42 gerards i have a question everyone.
03:43 gerards i've read somewhere, that you should put your /tmp /var /usr and maybe your /home filesystems in different partitions. Is this a good idea?
03:56 Ries gerards: I wouldn't do that in your situation
03:57 gerards yeah. i'm just thinking about LVMs and stuff.
03:58 gerards i'm just thinking about how to increase disk space by adding new harddisks.
04:02 Ries you can use LVM for that
04:02 Ries together with XFS for example
04:02 Ries my server just has swap and root partitions for the domU's
04:02 Ries easy to manage ;)
04:02 gerards xen can increase volume size on the fly right?
04:03 Ries nearly on teh fly
04:03 Ries But it could be done on teh fly...
04:03 Ries that emans XFS and LVM is designer for doing that
04:03 gerards LVM can do that too, but resizing file systems seems to be a problem if you put root and swap (only 2 partitions)
04:03 Ries it takes me about 2 minutes to increase a root partition for a domU
04:04 Ries that is including shutting down and brining up teh domU
04:04 Ries I am off to bed
04:04 gerards because you can't umount root file system.
04:04 gerards ok.
04:04 gerards night
04:04 Ries resizing is not a problem, LVM will handle that
04:04 gerards can't. one day you have to show me.
04:07 tansta Ries: Open Lasslo looks good :)
04:07 tansta have you try it yet ?
04:12 gerards tansta just installed it on my server.
04:12 gerards will use it soon.
04:18 dalma hello!! :)
04:19 gerards hi dalma. most of us in the western hemisphere are asleep. jsfan and tansta can help you though.
04:22 dalma thank you, I will go to bed soon... 1:24am here.
04:22 gerards ah... east coast?
04:25 dalma Argentina
04:25 dalma GMT-3
04:25 gerards ah. buenos dias.
04:25 jsfan back :)
04:25 dalma buenos dias :)
04:25 gerards noches, donde estoy.
04:25 dalma hi jsfan!
04:26 dalma where are you gerards?
04:26 gerards where were you jsfan?
04:26 jsfan dalma, any more issues
04:26 gerards i'm in ecuador.
04:26 jsfan gerards, lunch
04:27 dalma jsfan, just a doubt... how can I delete (totally remove from DB) the unused elements? (deleted pages, for example)
04:27 jsfan dalma, use phpmyadmin. that's the easiest.
04:28 gerards dalma but you don't really need to delete them.
04:28 jsfan gerards, i understand that he would like to. it only blows up your db.
04:28 dalma just to save space.. and clean the page view... Is not really an 'issue', you're right gerards
04:29 jsfan i'd also like a typo3 cli script that purges the db from deleted records and maybe also unused elements.
04:29 gerards yeah i always want to delete from tt_content where deleted = 1, but I always have to control myself.
04:30 dalma =), why? just for the record?
04:31 gerards 99% of the time its not necessary. maybe after 5 years, the amount of spaced used by deleted tt_content will be significant. but probably not.
04:31 dalma It's true
04:31 gerards space will probably be take more by images in typo3temp than mysql databases.
04:32 gerards you can remove those in the install tool.
04:33 gerards i believe that disk space reasons is not good enough reason for me to worry about removing deleted pages or tt_content.
04:38 d|g hi all
04:42 jsfan hi d|g
04:43 d|g jsfan ;)
04:48 gerards boys and girls. i must go. hasta la vista.
04:50 dalma I will go too...
04:50 dalma goodbye!!
05:03 koomi moin
05:30 tansta all gone
05:38 jsfan nope ;)
05:54 zat hi all
05:55 dax77 good morninh @all
05:55 dax77 morning
05:56 jsfan dax77, good afternoon ;)
05:56 uschi_ morning dax77 :)
05:56 uschi_ hey jsfan, where are you from?
05:56 jsfan i'm one of the rare aussies here :)
05:56 zat hi dax77
05:56 jsfan tansta is also aussie
05:56 tansta who me ?
05:56 jsfan actually, i'm not aussie. i'm german. but i live in oz.
05:56 tansta yes yes
05:57 tansta :)
05:57 dax77 :)
05:57 jsfan tansta, ;)
05:57 tansta i am Vietnamese that live in Oz
05:57 uschi i am in germany, jsfan
05:57 jsfan uschi, ic.
05:58 dax77 ic?
05:58 jsfan i usually only meet ries and gerards here (and tansta, of course)
05:58 dax77 jsfan: you should stay longer ;)
05:58 tansta hi dax77
05:58 jsfan but now that you have dst and we don't have it any more, i also come across europeans from time to time
05:58 dax77 we have 8 am right now
05:59 jsfan dax77, it's only 4pm but i'll probably leave around 5pm...
05:59 jsfan sometimes i am on line at night...
05:59 uschi jsfan, it is really interesting to stay overnight sometimes, no matter where you are, just to know who else is there :)
05:59 dax77 :)
05:59 jsfan yeah. sometimes there are a few americans around. i think some of the other aussies also log on from time to time...
06:00 jsfan i think i've seen roger in here once ;)
06:00 jsfan (another aussie)
06:14 Jigal hi @Ll
06:16 af_ moin
06:18 dax77 hi Jigal, hi af_
06:18 Jigal hi af_, dax77
06:27 zat hi Jigal
06:27 zat hi af_
06:28 uschi what happens, if i click on clear tables in Install tool?
06:28 uschi i do not dare to
06:29 Jigal hi zat, uschi
06:30 uschi morning Jigal
06:31 Jigal uschi: that's the option with the button labeled "Whatever you do, DON'T push this button!" ? ;-P
06:39 bauschan hi @all !
06:48 Jigal hi bauschan, nimred
06:49 uschi oh, thx, Jigal ;-)
07:07 Phlogiston_ good morning guys
07:07 Fanty morning
07:08 Fanty Does global extensions have the same extension configuration for all sites or can they have different configurations?
07:12 Jigal morning Fanty, floxx, Phlogiston_, Rapp
07:13 floxx morning jigal :)
07:14 dax77 Fanty: global extension = global ext-config ;)
07:15 Fanty bugger
07:15 dax77 but this doesn't effect the template-config
07:16 dax77 hey^!
07:18 uschi dax77, can you explain some things to me in 2 or 4 sentences?
07:19 uschi or someone else perhaps?
07:19 uschi there are be users and fe users
07:19 uschi if a be user is logged in, does he have to have an extra login for fe?
07:20 dax77 uschi: normally yes
07:21 uschi hm ...
07:21 dax77 but there is an extension which maps an fe-user to an be-user
07:21 uschi and what does 'normally' mean
07:21 uschi ok, and is that dangerous?
07:21 dax77 hmm, define dangerous
07:22 uschi in terms of security
07:23 dax77 well, if you have an be-account an additional feaccount wont hurt *my2cent*-
07:23 dax77 its just 2 different things
07:23 uschi no the name of the ext?
07:24 dax77 no, the name of the extension is not dangerous
07:25 uschi dax77, know i meant
07:26 Fanty templavoila is messing with me... what could cause content not to show? TV outputs the template like its supposed to, but it dosen't render the content
07:30 Denyerec bodged mapping ?
07:30 Denyerec cache
07:31 Denyerec um
07:31 koomi Fanty: included css_styled_content?
07:31 Denyerec could be the SUPER ANNOYING BUG
07:31 Denyerec or it could be that
07:31 Denyerec ^^
07:31 koomi hehe
07:32 dax77 uschi: dkd_feuser_belogin
07:32 koomi just wondering: is there any difference in tt_news rendering of content besided the template used (as in list/lates/single?)
07:33 dax77 uschi: or simulatebe
07:34 uschi thx, dax77 :)
07:34 koomi do you guys use frontend editing? i never really used it but am wondering if it might be useful for the user
07:35 Fanty koomi: man that css_styled_content thing always eludes me
07:37 koomi me too. ^^
07:37 koomi or any other extension template :)
07:37 MarwolTuk good morning
07:40 MarwolTuk does someone know how to find out if a fe-user is logged-in in a PHP-Script wich is included via PHP_SCRIPT_INT?
07:58 MarwolTuk solved my prob... $TSFE['loginUser'] seems only set if a user in FE is logged-in...
08:04 just2b hello.. where is the tca of the be_user?
08:07 just2b no one?
08:08 koomi just give it a minute or tow
08:08 koomi two
08:08 Jigal just2b: not so fast...
08:08 Fanty hehe
08:08 just2b ok hello koomi, jigal, fanty... ;) and happy easter afterwards
08:08 Jigal just2b: according to manual it's defined in t3lib/stddb/tables.php
08:10 just2b thx
08:10 bauschan just2b: tbl_be.php
08:10 just2b which manual?
08:11 Jigal just2b: TYPO3 Core APIs, page 67, "What is $TCA?"
08:11 beev0r anyone an idea how i can number the content elements in a column? when i've got 3 content elements in the border column
08:12 beev0r i want them to have <div class="element1"></div> <div class="element2"></div> ...
08:12 just2b look at css_styled_content, the ext makes this for the headers
08:14 Jigal What is the easiest way to disable caching for a particular page?
08:15 just2b jigal > page properties
08:18 Jigal just2b: that's a very small option :-) The help for that option says: " (...) Normally the PHP-code rendering such content is programmed to disable the caching automatically (...)" How do I do that?
08:19 just2b you have only to activate the checkbox and the page is not cached anymoe
08:19 just2b because of parameter > no_cache=1
08:20 Jigal just2b: disabling the cache on the page was my "quick fix" idea; disabling it from the PHP code in the extension is better (if the extension is used on other pages it will work too).
08:21 just2b ok didn't got it that you want to disable it in the ext...
08:21 just2b why of the whole page and not only the plugin itself?
08:22 just2b > USER_INT
08:23 Denyerec Morning Typistas
08:24 neostar morning Denyerec
08:29 Jigal just2b: it's a crummy sites made of many nested frames and the "page" I refer to is actually the content of one of the frames; it's simple and it's best that the whole "page" is not cached.
08:32 neostar is there a simple way to include a php page into a typo3 page? I want to include a 3rd party blog into my design, the blog offers this option, it's just how can I include it on a single page?
08:35 smda Jigal: shouldn't you use tsfe->set_no_cache() if it's about your ext?
08:35 just2b sry yes this is right way
08:36 Richard-nl neostart: Yes
08:37 tobi tsfe->set_no_cache() is bad ... if your ext. is installed the whole typo3 instalation does not get cached anymore
08:37 Richard-nl neostar: You still here?
08:37 neostar Richard-nl: any hints where to look? :-)
08:37 Richard-nl Plugin
08:37 Jigal $this->pi_USER_INT_obj=1; is better?
08:37 Richard-nl neostar: There is a special plugin for php.
08:38 tobi yes, USER_INT is better .. that sets only this plugin to no_cache Jigal
08:38 Richard-nl neostar: Page_php_content
08:38 Richard-nl neostar: It works very good.
08:39 neostar Richard-nl: thanks, I think that should work, timtab is driving me nuts and it's lacking a lot of features so I'll stick with serendipity (s9y) as a blog
08:40 Jigal just2b, smda, tobi: there is a line var $pi_checkCHash = TRUE; just at the beginning of the class definition; should I disable that too?
08:41 Fanty Jigal: yes
08:41 tobi $pi_checkCHash = TRUE; is used only for USER plugins
08:41 Richard-nl neostar: Just find it and install it. :) You would love it :)
08:41 Fanty Jigal: disable = remove the line ;)
08:42 neostar Richard-nl: I will try that, looks like this will solve a lot of my problems
08:43 Richard-nl :)
08:43 Jigal Fanty: disable = comment out ;-P
08:43 Richard-nl neostar: It solved mine :)
08:43 Richard-nl Now I've a Question: Who can help me with FE users / loging in / folders??
08:44 just2b richard, ask
08:45 just2b lol
08:45 just2b should I trust my hoster for backups?
08:45 Richard-nl I'm trying to set up Front End users with permissions to upload / download (in a set folder)
08:45 Jigal just2b: do you trust your hoster with your car, wife and your money?
08:45 Richard-nl I just cannot found out where.
08:46 just2b jigal, no mony, just a gf but hmmm ;)
08:46 Richard-nl I created already a FE-group
08:49 Jigal just2b: it's a not a matter whether you have them or not; would you trust your hoster with them? ;-P
08:49 just2b i guess not
08:49 just2b ok lets make a backup then ;)
08:49 Jigal just2b: I rest my case... :-D
08:50 just2b but not of the account of my brother :D
08:51 m4rtijn helo
08:51 Richard-nl Waiting for answers
08:51 Jigal darn system... it still caches the output of the extension :-(
08:51 Richard-nl m4rtijn Ask
08:51 pulponair hi there
08:51 Jigal hi pulponair
08:52 Jigal pulponair: are you a caching guru? ;-)
08:52 m4rtijn mornink pulp
08:52 pulponair Jigal: no not really ? what is your problem?
08:53 m4rtijn darn.. jigal, sry but could you resend that multi column page you send yesterday again?
08:53 m4rtijn pot*
08:53 m4rtijn post*
08:53 m4rtijn :p
08:53 bauschan hmm, t3lib_div::xml2array doesn't care about attributes !?
08:53 bauschan like
08:53 bauschan <PRODUCT_DESCRIPTION ID='8' CODE='it' NAME='Italien'>
08:54 bauschan anybody can confirm this ?
08:54 Jigal I try to prevend the caching of the output of an extension. On advise of just2b, smda and tobi I set $this->pi_USER_INT_obj=1; and var $pi_checkCHash = FALSE; in the extension, but output is still cached :-(
08:54 pulponair bauschan: yeah ...but dead by design dude
08:54 pulponair Jigal: make it a user_int
08:55 pulponair jigal: does your extension make use of gp vars?
08:55 pulponair Jigal: or do you just want to turn of caching at all for this plugin?
08:55 pulponair Jigal: how is your plugin attached to the rendere? type43?
08:55 Jigal m4rtijn: http://www.alistapart.com/articles/multicolumnlayouts
08:56 Jigal pulponair: yes, it uses gp vars and those are cached :-(
08:57 pulponair Jigal: ok what about the rendere? type43 or custom static?
08:58 Jigal pulponair: I try to look it up.. only see call to t3lib_extMgm::addPlugin that links it to a content type...
08:59 pulponair t3lib_extMgm::addPItoST43($_EXTKEY,'pi1/class.tx_myext_pi1.php','_pi1','list_type',0); ?
08:59 pulponair Jigal: paste your line please
08:59 Jigal pulponair: found a addPItoST43 call in ext_localconf.php for the content types...
09:00 Jigal t3lib_extMgm::addPItoST43($_EXTKEY,'pi7/class.tx_drebaracludeqps_pi7.php','_pi7','CType',7);
09:00 pulponair Jigal: change the last 0 to 1 and remove the cache stuff from your pi
09:00 pulponair Jigal: to you want to disable caching just for pi/?
09:00 pulponair pi7 i meant
09:01 Jigal pulponair: and a few other pi#, but all would not be a problem either
09:02 pulponair Jigal: ok set the t3lib_extMgm::addPItoST43($_EXTKEY,'pi7/class.tx_drebaracludeqps_pi7.php','_pi7','CType',0);
09:02 pulponair not the last 0
09:02 Jigal pulponair: even disabled caching for the entire page (and not only the content element) is okay (frameset)
09:02 pulponair "boolean If $cached is set as USER content object (cObject) is created - otherwise a USER_INT object is created."
09:02 pulponair Jigal: no dont do that
09:03 pulponair just set caching to 0 by setting the caching parameter of ..toST43 to 0 (see api)
09:03 pulponair and remove all chash, objuserint stuff from the plugin itself
09:04 Richard-nl Question: Who can help me with setting up Front-End Users??
09:04 koomi anyone used commerce?
09:05 Jigal pulponair: is the last parameter only 0 or not-zero? there were 4 pi's and they had last parameter 1 to 4, so I just extended the list...
09:05 pulponair Jigal: bullshit ..."boolean If $cached is set as USER content object (cObject) is created - otherwise a USER_INT object is created."
09:05 pulponair Jigal: boolean
09:06 pulponair Jigal: see http://typo3.org/fileadmin/typo3api-4.0.0/db/d23/classt3lib__extMgm.html#161d98233f8583d5dd95d1f8548eb2ac
09:07 Jigal pulponair: the description of that function in TYPO3 Core APIs only list one single parameter ($_EXTKEY)
09:07 floxx question: how could i realize a splash page for a website?
09:08 pulponair Jigal: : ???? no http://phpfi.com/225926
09:09 just2b what is a splash page?
09:09 floxx a page that you get if you visit a website...after a while you will be redirected
09:09 floxx (i hate such pages but customers are lovin it ;) )
09:10 just2b so how is this realised without typo3? js? meta-tag=?
09:10 pulponair just2b: yeah meta or js
09:10 just2b so there is no big deal including a meta tag or js... page.headerData.5 = TEXT ...
09:10 Jigal pulponair: on http://typo3.org/documentation/document-library/core-documentation/doc_core_api/4.0.0/view/3/2/#id2800121 (scroll 80% down) it has one parameter...
09:11 pulponair Jigal: yeah bullshit doc ..use the api i linked to
09:11 Jigal pulponair: I will ;-)
09:12 pulponair Jigal: the one created automatically from the source :)
09:12 floxx just2b: good question ... i'm searching for a page with that feature
09:13 Jigal pulponair: and "the source is the documentation" LOL
09:13 pulponair Jigal: yes as always ...i never read the official docs
09:13 floxx just2b: ahh i found it - very simple: <meta http-equiv="refresh" content="3; URL=/index.php"> in the <head>-tag
09:13 pulponair Jigal: most of them are outdated, incompled or just wrong
09:13 Jigal pulponair: you're my hero today! It f$#*(%&$ng works!
09:14 pulponair Jigal: sure it works, but note you should read the caching howto there are several smarter way you should consider ..
09:14 Jigal pulponair: in the survey I tried to answer "documentation" as much as possible ;-)
09:15 pulponair Jigal: so did i
09:17 beev0r can someone maybe help me to get my content elements numbered?
09:17 beev0r http://nopaste.tshw.de/1176369583b04fc/
09:18 beev0r the upper part is the original css styled content ts
09:18 beev0r which numbers the headlines
09:19 beev0r the part below is my try to number the content elements in the border column :/
09:23 pulponair what a crap:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0ODskdEPnQ
09:24 just2b and old crap...
09:24 pulponair just2b: perhaps didnt know it
09:27 smda pulponair: really useful :)
09:30 Fanty awesome desktopå
09:31 koomi i combination with a tangible interface that might be interesting
09:31 pulponair koomi: i guess it will never be released ;)
09:33 dax77 re
09:37 just2b hi re
09:38 Fanty pulponair: I think it will
09:39 Fanty pulponair: it would give the desktop a lot of functionality it does not currently have -- but it would require a lot of the interface as koomi said :)
09:40 koomi such a desktop metaphor is eye candy when used with the mouse as the main input device
09:41 pulponair indeed
09:46 Richard-nl Hey hey. Who can help me with FE users?
09:47 Richard-nl ?
10:08 Jigal pulponair: that desktop looks nice with just a few items. Mouse is akward. http://www.wimp.com/multitouch/ looks more like something useful for the future...
10:18 pulponair http://www.spiegel.de/panorama/0,1518,grossbild-844478-476798,00.html
10:18 pulponair yummy
10:18 pulponair "chicken wings"
10:24 Jigal pulponair: stupid vet; there are tools to do such things...
10:25 pulponair Jigal: yes :)
10:29 roam How can I force a linebreak in a gmenue item?
10:33 pulponair roam: split char
10:37 pulponair roam: see http://phpfi.com/225945
10:37 Fanty a stick might do.. poke it in the eye.. if it dosent move then do your thing
10:43 rocking is typo3 based on php?
10:43 pulponair rocking: aehm yes
10:43 rocking i am actually thinking of building application on typo3 but just wondering how much learning curve required for those dev. who know basic php
10:45 fred^ how do i got the default valign of tables created in the rte to be top?
10:46 pulponair rocking: the t3 api is quite "special" ...and quite outdated regarding modern design patterns n stuff
10:49 dax77 rocking: and it depends on you - how fast can you learn?
11:28 pulponair for those who didnt know yet :http://typo3.org/extensions/repository/view/ameos_dragndropupload/2.0.1/
11:28 pulponair definetly one of the most usefull extension out there
11:31 smda pulponair : yeah. that's nice. the only thing I didn't like when reading about it is the signed non-valid applet thing.. but on the other hand it's for admin and not FE users so it's not that big..
11:31 smda pulponair: tried it?
11:50 Fanty rtehtmlarea dosen't allow me to make a link to a page in the system with a &go=1 param
11:50 Fanty !!
11:59 webdev hi everyone
11:59 webdev is anybody of us using sys_todos with typo3 4.1
12:01 webdev it seams that sys_todo doesn't work anymore with typo3 4.1
12:08 skou hey Ries
12:09 skou anyone familar with TAPI? :-)
12:09 Ries hey skou
12:09 Ries skou: on windows?
12:13 webdev skou: whats TAPI ?
12:14 webdev skou: you mean this phone thing?
12:14 Jigal webdev: it's either the Telephony API available under various versions of Windows, or the Thai river with that name?
12:14 skou yes the phonetingie
12:14 fred^ how do i set the default valign of a table created in the RTE to top?
12:14 skou I got a question, wether its possible to integrate the functionality TAPI into an web app
12:16 greven2121 hey guys... I need help - I'm fairly new to Typo3 and working on a tutorial. Pretty basic stuff so far. But it seems like I can't make the static template: MM working. Acutally I can't get any template to work that outputs the Navigation to an image. But when I create the Navigation myself (using Typoscript and GIFBuilder) it does work.
12:16 greven2121 In short: template MM (or any other with grafical navigation) doesn't work - creates the navigation map but doesn't create the image itself. Can run all tests in the installation tool successfully. XAMPP with ImageMagic installed seperatly - Typo3 4.1
12:17 webdev skou: take a look at the php manual, perhaps you have some tapi functions there, otherwise I would check pecl.php.net and of cours google "TAPI PHP"
12:17 greven2121 any ideas?
12:18 webdev greven2121: where did you find "template: MM", is that one of this old default templates ?
12:18 greven2121 yes - that's one of the defaults
12:18 skou seems like it has some COM stuff
12:20 tobi the static templates like "template: MM" are deprecated. they use old methods and are not up to date, you should not use them
12:20 greven2121 ah ok !
12:20 greven2121 thank you
12:20 greven2121 the tutorial uses them and I couldn't make them work.
12:25 Fabian__ hi, in the $TCA i can make a field width "type" => "input" and then use "size" => "30" but
12:26 Fabian__ i also want to use "size" or something similar with "type" => "text", is this possible?
12:35 pulponair smda:yeah i did
12:35 enumerator hi!
13:04 greven2121 how do I get the help of the bot?
13:04 greven2121 on typo3.org it says: Check out the help of the bot by typing !h in the channel!
13:05 smda greven2121 : afaik it's not been working for quite some time
13:06 solshark Hello all. How can i enable captcha feture on fe_user_registration
13:06 solshark ?
13:06 greven2121 oh well, that's an expanation - can you recommend a FAQ / Forum?
13:18 MarwolTuk is it possible to move all content-objects of a page to an other without cut and paste every single one (i shoud move about 1200 frontend-users)
13:18 MarwolTuk page means sys-foulder ;-)
13:18 dax77 MarwolTuk: copy the page ;)
13:19 dax77 or move it
13:19 MarwolTuk dax not possible beacause destination alreaddy has some fe-users :-(
13:19 dax77 or do an sql update query
13:21 dax77 solshark: should be in the manual
13:21 MarwolTuk thanks, i havn't thought of that jet... iths the uid in the fe_users table?
13:21 dax77 pid
13:21 MarwolTuk ok..
13:22 dax77 greven2121: how can we help you?
13:23 solshark Peoples, anyone know how to enable CAPTCHA on sr_feuser_register?
13:24 dax77 solshark: if I find it in the manual you have to pay me ;)
13:25 solshark dax77: He he
13:26 greven2121 hi dax77... I am looking for more reading material - especially a FAQ with common misunderstandings / Forum with regular beginner questions - so that we don't have to answer them all again
13:26 solshark dax77: I can't find in manual description this feature, but in changelog present record about captcha support.
13:29 solshark dax77: Sorry for my terrible English. If you find something - tell me, please.
13:32 tobi greven2121: you are german? use the mailing list archive. also typo3.net has all the newbie questions at least 10x in the forum
13:37 dax77 solshark: are you german?
13:45 solshark dax77: No, i'm from Ukraine.
13:50 solshark dax77: So, you find some info in the manual? ;)
13:51 dax77 nope
13:54 dax77 solshark: give me a couple min
13:58 webdev hi
13:58 webdev I'm using chash for my extension. There is one output where I don't wanna have the extension cached, there is no chash and there are no piVars
13:59 webdev Do I have any way to disable caching for a specific output of an extension without having piVars
14:08 dax77 solshark: as what I can see from the sourcecode you can add the attribute "captcha" to a field
14:09 dax77 ... the condition: evalValues
14:10 pulponair hmm how to get a bugtracker extension account?
14:10 dax77 and you have to have freecap being installed
14:11 dax77 pulponair: write an email to (obscured mail address)
14:11 dax77 see bugs.typo3.org ;)
14:11 pulponair dax77: so it is open for every extension?
14:12 mikhas tt_products @$6{]
14:12 dax77 pulponair: every in ter available ext I think
14:12 mikhas have the constants for tt_products dissappeared lately?
14:12 dax77 cal has one too
14:16 mailform hallo
14:16 mailform i have a question
14:17 mailform i have a mailformplus in my site
14:18 mailform i have checkboxes and depending whether the checkboxes are checked or not, some textfields should be required fields or not
14:19 mailform i used "email_requiredfields = myfield"
14:20 mailform but the other conditions after this (which also have "email_requiredfields = myfield2") overwrite the requiredfields i set before
14:23 pulponair dax77: there is no note how to get an extension account on bugs.typo3.org
14:25 dax77 pulponair: hmm, I missinterpreted the sentence with the email. but I think you can use that email too
14:26 mailform hmm, have anyone an idea to solve my problem?
14:26 mailform i also tried email_requiredfields.wrap = |, myfield2 but then no field was an required field...
14:28 webdev has nobody expiriance in extension development with cache ?
14:29 Sebastian hi there, I have a question re template creation with an html template as typo doesn't display anything but a white screen after I marked subparts and everything
14:30 pulponair webdev: over here yes
14:30 dax77 Sebastian: enable fe-debug and sql-debug in the install tool. then you might see whats causing the problem
14:30 Sebastian ok cheers :)
14:31 dax77 mailform: did you try email_requiredfields = myfield, myfield2 ?
14:31 mailform hello dax
14:32 dax77 and what condition is that? can you paste your setup at phpfi.com ?
14:33 mailform [globalVar = GP:anforderung2=anrufen]
14:33 mailform plugin.tx_thmailformplus_pi1.default.email_requiredfields = telefonnr2
14:33 mailform [end]
14:33 mailform [globalVar = GP:sonst2=Wir sind noch auf der Suche nach einem Grundstück]
14:33 mailform plugin.tx_thmailformplus_pi1.default.email_requiredfields = grundstuecksuche
14:33 mailform [end]
14:33 mailform [globalVar = GP:sonst3=Wir haben schon ein Grundstück in]
14:33 mailform plugin.tx_thmailformplus_pi1.default.email_requiredfields = grundstueckpos
14:33 mailform [end]
14:34 mailform [globalVar = GP:sonst4=Wann möchten Sie gern einziehen]
14:34 mailform plugin.tx_thmailformplus_pi1.default.email_requiredfields = einzugdatum
14:34 mailform [end]
14:34 webdev pulponair: I use cHash for my cached extension, I have several views (select box in the insert plugin flexform) and one of this views shouldn't be cached, I tried to set pi_USER_INT_obj to 1, but it didn't help. As long as I set caching to 1 in the addPItoST43 function the extension gets cached all the time
14:35 beev0r ewww german
14:35 pulponair webdev:mom
14:36 dax77 mailform: thats not phpfi.com ;)
14:36 mailform oh sorry
14:37 Sebastian dax77: did so but still just a white page as output
14:39 dax77 mailform, you should do it differently: temp_requiredfields = TEXT
14:39 dax77 no, make it a COA
14:40 mailform http://phpfi.com/226018
14:40 dax77 and than you add ~.1 = TEXT; ~.1.value = tefefonnr2
14:40 Sebastian my steps were (as learned by tutorial and book), 1) creating HTML and CSS 2) inserting subparts via comments 3) entering TS in setup field
14:42 dax77 mailform: http://phpfi.com/226021
14:42 dax77 don't kow if that works, but its another approach
14:42 mailform thanks i will try it :)
14:43 dax77 Sebastian: how does your template and your setup look like? (please use phpfi.com)
14:45 Sebastian this is the html http://phpfi.com/226023
14:45 dax77 mailform: the last part should be .4 instead of .1
14:46 Sebastian TS setup: http://phpfi.com/226025
14:46 mailform yes i saw it an correct it
14:47 mailform i've tried it, but now, he doesn't required any of the fields which are modified by requiredfields
14:47 dax77 Sebastian: you are having mostly subpartmarkers. you should replace all of them to normal markers - but leave the DOCUMENT_BODY marker as it is
14:48 Remowylliams Hello everyone. Do most people use the default RTE or do you use something with more capability?
14:48 dax77 mailform: I guess its not getting converted :(
14:49 dax77 mailform: Another thing you might do is to have many conditions regarding each option - you can combine conditions
14:49 Sebastian ok but it should work anyway as I also configured the subparts in the setup field
14:50 dax77 Sebastian: no, you are just working on the one subpart: DOCUMENT_BODY
14:50 dax77 and there you are working on the markers
14:51 mailform hmm, combine conditions ok
14:51 mailform are there the operators && ?
14:52 dax77 mailform: can't remember, but its all in the TSRef
14:52 dax77 sry, but g2g now
14:52 dax77 cu
15:03 bauschan mailform: i just had a quick look on your code
15:03 bauschan you try to compare different vars like anforderung2/sonst2
15:03 bauschan the condition is evaluated by the value
15:03 bauschan if you do something like
15:03 bauschan [globalVar = GP:anforderung2=anrufen]
15:03 bauschan n]
15:03 bauschan [globalVar = GP:anforderung2=mail]
15:04 bauschan your conditions will work
15:05 bauschan mailform: hope that helps
15:05 bauschan cu all !
15:10 mailform ahh
15:10 mailform hello bauschan
15:26 Remowylliams Hurrah for tinyRTE
15:55 rgl how can I add some PHP content into a page? In the "New content element" I can see a "Plain HTML" type, but no PHP one :(
15:56 smurfslayer there is an extension .. php_page_content
15:57 rgl ah its an extension? ok!
15:59 rgl smurfslayer, sorry, I cannot find it at typo3.org/extensions :(
16:06 smurfslayer http://typo3.org/documentation/document-library/extension-manuals/page_php_content/current/
16:07 rgl smurfslayer, sure, but where do I download it from?
16:08 rgl http://typo3.org/extensions/repository/fulllist/ does not seem to have it :|
16:10 smurfslayer hm
16:10 smurfslayer strange
16:11 pmk65 rgl: Try this one http://typo3.org/extensions/repository/view/lumophpinclude/1.1.1/
16:11 smurfslayer my Extension Repository finds the extension and offers me to install it
16:12 smurfslayer Frontend
16:12 smurfslayer Page PHP Content page_php_content 1.0.1 24836/24784 Stable
16:14 rgl pmk65, nice to known. but using eval kinda sucks :(
16:14 rgl smurfslayer, odd. I don't find it anywhere :/
16:16 pmk65 then write a small extension to include your php script..
16:16 rgl pmk65, I was trying not to do that :|
16:18 bedlamhotel pmk65 and rgl: I just arrived, so you may already have been discussing this, but what about the USER / USER_INT cObjects?
16:19 rgl bedlamhotel, I'm very new to typo. but that seems to be a template setting? I mean, how can I add a page content with USER cObjects?
16:19 speida Hi, can any1 help me with TYPO3 installation pls? it tells me:
16:19 speida The Install Tool is locked.
16:19 speida Fix: Create a file typo3conf/ENABLE_INSTALL_TOOL
16:19 speida i created it but it doesnt do anything :S
16:20 speida i put it in the typo3conf folder...
16:20 speida can any1 help pls?
16:20 bedlamhotel rgl: a tip: page content is Typoscript :)
16:20 bedlamhotel rgl: is it something you need to do in a predictable way (e.g. same place on every page), or is it quite variable?
16:21 speida pls any1?
16:21 rgl bedlamhotel, its just something that I want to add to a particular page.
16:22 bedlamhotel rgl: is it in the midst of other content elements, or is it at beginning or end etc?
16:22 rgl bedlamhotel, it can be on the end
16:22 koomi speida: check permissions, make sure there's no typo
16:23 koomi speida: else look into the install tool php file and uncomment the die funtion
16:23 speida what u mean check if there's no typo?
16:23 bedlamhotel rgl: That's an easy job for TS then...what is it you need to use php to do?
16:24 rgl bedlamhotel, nothing special, just output something when there is a specific variable on the $_GET
16:25 bedlamhotel rgl: I don't think you need php for that.
16:25 koomi speida: no spelling mistake. did you really create a file that is called exactly like in that message (uppercase, ..)
16:25 rgl bedlamhotel, I migth need it in future :D
16:25 koomi rgl: are you using templavoila or the regular template?
16:26 speida ykoomi, ya i created a file called ENABLE_INSTALL_TOOL with .php extensiond and placed it into the typo3conf folder
16:26 koomi speida: no .php extension
16:26 rgl koomi, I dunno. I've used the "template; BUSINESS" that comes with standard typo 4.1.1
16:26 bedlamhotel rgl: ok. Are you using TV?
16:26 koomi rgl: hrhr. you should give the modern template tutorial a shot
16:26 speida koomi, what extentions should i put?
16:26 koomi speida: none. that's the magic :)
16:27 speida how do i create a file like that then? :S
16:27 rgl koomi, you mean I have to change the template for doing this? in the template I +- known how to do it, I thing its a matter of .wrap = blabla.
16:27 rgl bedlamhotel, what is TV? :D
16:27 koomi speida: erm. create a file, remove the extension?
16:27 bedlamhotel rgl: how did you make your page template?
16:27 bedlamhotel rgl: using an extension called Templavoila or not?
16:28 speida koomi, i did it, but in the server it gives the extension .php
16:28 koomi bedlamhotel: if he doesn't know "TV" it would be a sure guess that he hasn't used it
16:28 speida koomi, do you have a file to send to me?
16:28 rgl bedlamhotel, I didn't make it. its the standard template "template; BUSINESS" that comes with stock typo 4.1.1.
16:28 koomi speida: then create a local file and upload it via ftp or however you got your sources on the server
16:29 speida koomi, that's what i did
16:29 koomi speida: this is an _empty_ file. you could - i assume - simply rename the file that is already on your server
16:29 rgl bedlamhotel, I don't think templavoila is installed at all
16:29 koomi speida: then simply edit the typo3/install/index.php
16:29 bedlamhotel koomi: not necessarily. I have no idea who built the site...if it wasn't him, then anything could be present.
16:29 koomi speida: file and uncomment the die function in the first few lines
16:29 bedlamhotel rgl: probably not.
16:30 speida koomi, thanks i'll give it a try now
16:30 rgl bedlamhotel, it doens't appear on my ext manager pager.
16:31 bedlamhotel rgl: you won't want to hear this, but my first advice would be to start over using CSS Styled Content extension. The disadvantage is that you will have to integrate an HTML template on your own. The templates that TYPO3 ships with (e.g. 'Business' etc) are absolute sh*t.
16:32 bedlamhotel rgl: since I don't have any experience with those ancient templates, I'll suggest an extension to you that lets you add TS to the page in the content areas: http://typo3.org/extensions/repository/view/rvt_tsobjtags/0.2.0/
16:32 speida koomi, its perfect, thanks for the support!!
16:32 rgl bedlamhotel, I see. I also have noticed that the generated HTML seemed old school.
16:34 bedlamhotel rgl: those templates had already been in the system for some time when I started using TYPO3 ~4.5 years ago...
16:35 bedlamhotel rgl: you may want to try either of the "Modern Template Building" or "Futuristic Template Building" tutorials.
16:35 Ries bedlamhotel: rvt_tsobjtags is cool!!! Just remember it works with htmlarea for the moment
16:35 koomi your extension Ries? :)
16:36 bedlamhotel ries: I agree: very cool :)
16:37 bedlamhotel koomi: rvt = ries
16:37 bedlamhotel or maybe rvt === ries
16:38 koomi rvt ~ ries?
16:38 Ries yup
16:38 Ries eval(rvg == ries) => true
16:39 rgl bedlamhotel, OK, thx! but right now, I didn't wanted to lost myself in building a template. Just wanted to show something in a page.
16:41 bedlamhotel rgl: check the TSref page on USER. Theres a path shown to some example files, but the path is wrong since version 4 of TYPO3. it's really at typo3/sysext/cms/tslib/media/... instead of just media/...
16:42 bedlamhotel rgl: that wasn't very clear... the example files referred to in the TSref's USER section are present in every TYPO3 source package.
16:49 rgl bedlamhotel, ok. thank you :D
17:23 greven2121 hi, how do link to images in fileadmin/images from a CSS File, which has been included as a ressource ? (Typoscript: page.stylesheet = main*.css)
17:24 greven2121 absolute linking is unfortunatly not an option
17:25 gerards greven2121: er... url( ../../images) ?
17:26 greven2121 hmm..
17:26 greven2121 typo3 changed my definition to <link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" href="uploads/tf/main.css" />
17:26 greven2121 is it always in the folder uploads/tf ?
17:27 gerards not sure. I never include my css as a resource.
17:27 gerards for me its always a plain file in fileadmin/somewhere/css.
17:28 greven2121 how do you realize versioning?
17:28 gerards define versioning.
17:28 greven2121 well, whenever the css file changes - i can just upload the new file and typo3 keeps the old file for future referenzes
17:29 gerards oh ok. :) i don't. i don't, so far, see the need to version css.
17:30 greven2121 well... maybe you'r right ;-)
17:30 gerards might be necessary though, i'd admit.
17:30 gerards 99% of the time, css is a constant.
17:31 greven2121 true, but I was thinking bout letting the user change the CSS file themselves
17:31 greven2121 then I could always recover the latest version if they mess up
17:31 gerards they can do it in a template record i think.
17:32 greven2121 ok - I'll look into this
17:32 greven2121 thank you
17:32 gerards PAGE.includeCSS.[array]
17:32 gerards http://typo3.org/documentation/document-library/references/doc_core_tsref/4.0.0/view/7/5/
17:32 gerards enjoy.
17:33 greven2121 neat! thanks
18:44 Speida Hi, i'm trying to install typo3 but on the 2nd step i get this:
18:44 Speida Warning: mysql_list_dbs() [function.mysql-list-dbs]: Unable to save MySQL query result in /web/htdocs/www.speidadesign.com/Users/<removed>/t3lib/class.t3lib_db.php on line 948
18:44 Speida Warning: mysql_fetch_object(): supplied argument is not a valid MySQL result resource in /web/htdocs/www.speidadesign.com/Users/<removed>/t3lib/class.t3lib_db.php on line 949
18:44 Speida any ideas wat to do?
18:44 Speida thx
18:45 andreasbalzer did you go to install tool > db analysis > compare?
18:45 Speida where do i find install tool?
18:46 andreasbalzer you have to access http://www.yourdomain.com/typo3/install
18:46 Speida ya i;m there
18:46 Speida i'm on the 123 mode
18:46 andreasbalzer are you still in the install process?
18:46 Speida ya 2nd step
18:46 andreasbalzer which headline is it?
18:47 Speida Database
18:47 Speida You have two options:
18:47 Speida 1: Select an existing EMPTY database:
18:47 Speida (but iu cant see anything on the dropdown menu)
18:47 Speida 2: Create new database (recommended):
18:47 andreasbalzer yes. select the second
18:48 Speida but i cant create a database on my server...
18:48 Speida i already got 5 with default names
18:48 andreasbalzer oh.. ok..
18:48 andreasbalzer aem.
18:48 Speida should i disable the 123 mode?
18:48 andreasbalzer you can install T3 without the 123 mode
18:48 andreasbalzer yes
18:48 Speida ok
18:48 Speida i'll try
18:49 Speida wat does this mean? Memory limit below 16 MB
18:49 Speida does it mean my server is almost full?
18:49 andreasbalzer that does mean, that you might not have enough ram memory
18:49 andreasbalzer (it's not the storage for your files)
18:49 Speida i got 3gb :S
18:49 andreasbalzer yeah, but those are not the same
18:50 andreasbalzer the memory is your RAM. Normal desktop computers have 128 MB or 256 MB or 1 or 2 GB...
18:50 andreasbalzer (or sometimes even more)
18:50 andreasbalzer do you know, how big your RAM memory is?
18:50 Speida ya 3gb
18:50 andreasbalzer oh
18:50 andreasbalzer do you have an own server?
18:51 Speida anyways... when i go to the basic configuration i cant select any database :S
18:51 Speida should i modify the file php by hand?
18:51 andreasbalzer (memory) if yes, you might want to raise the memory limit in php.ini
18:51 andreasbalzer yes, you might have to modify localconf.php by hand
18:51 andreasbalzer wait a sec
18:52 andreasbalzer do you have FTP?
18:52 Speida ya.. i got a hosting from aruba
18:52 andreasbalzer ok. please open your FTP program and go to ./typo3conf
18:52 Speida ok i;m there
18:52 andreasbalzer is there a file called localconf.php?
18:52 Speida yep
18:52 andreasbalzer please download it
18:53 Speida done
18:53 andreasbalzer open it with your favourite editor
18:53 Speida done
18:53 andreasbalzer ok..
18:53 andreasbalzer aem....
18:53 andreasbalzer is there something like $typo_db_username?
18:54 Speida ya i got
18:54 Speida with already the right details
18:54 andreasbalzer ok
18:54 Speida buyt i aint got the name of the database
18:54 andreasbalzer also your password, etc?
18:54 andreasbalzer ah ok.
18:54 Speida ya username, password and host
18:54 andreasbalzer $typo_db = 'yourdatabase';
18:55 Speida ok
18:55 andreasbalzer as soon as this is done, please upload the file
18:55 andreasbalzer and remove all files beginning with temp* in your typo3conf folder
18:55 andreasbalzer afterwards open the installer again
18:55 Speida ok done
18:55 Speida ok
18:55 andreasbalzer typo3/install
18:56 andreasbalzer and navigate to DB Analysis > Compare
18:56 Speida hmmm
18:56 andreasbalzer it should fill your database
18:56 Speida oh you mean 2: Database analyser?
18:56 andreasbalzer yes
18:57 andreasbalzer sry
18:57 Speida ok
18:57 andreasbalzer ok
18:57 andreasbalzer click on the first compare
18:57 andreasbalzer and confirm every question where T3 wants to add something
18:57 Speida do i need too select Update required tables COMPARE ?
18:57 andreasbalzer yes
18:57 Speida ok
18:58 Speida ok done
18:58 Speida now?
18:58 andreasbalzer wait a sec please
18:58 Speida k
18:58 andreasbalzer you'll find "Dump static data" .... "IMPORT" on the same page
18:58 andreasbalzer click on IMPORT please
18:59 andreasbalzer select everything and click on "Write to database"
18:59 Speida ok done
18:59 andreasbalzer ok
18:59 andreasbalzer now open 1: Basic Configuration
18:59 andreasbalzer it's at the very top
18:59 WebMatt Brand new Typo user here if anyone can be of help with basic set up i would appreciate it
19:00 Speida yep
19:00 Speida i'n in
19:00 andreasbalzer WebMatt: What's your problem?
19:00 andreasbalzer Speida: Please scroll down slowly and check, that there's a green 'v' everywhere
19:00 Speida everything is fine apart Memory limit below 16 MB
19:00 Speida and
19:00 Speida Write config to localconf.php:
19:00 Speida Fatal error encountered!
19:00 WebMatt i have created pages... and when i go to my domain it says no pages are on root level
19:01 WebMatt i have been playing about 20 minutes and cant figure out how to make them live.. or on the root level
19:01 bedlamhotel WebMatt: have you created a Typoscript template?
19:01 andreasbalzer Speida: please check your chmod settings for localconf.php
19:01 andreasbalzer Speida: it should be readable and writable for the server
19:01 Speida ok, what about for the memory?
19:02 andreasbalzer WebMatt: please make sure you also have a template with 'root level' enabled
19:02 andreasbalzer Speida: do you have access to your servers configuration?
19:02 Speida localconf.php is 644
19:02 Speida no
19:02 Speida i only got a hosting
19:02 andreasbalzer oh.. right.. sry
19:03 andreasbalzer try to chmod the localconf.php to a more opened value
19:03 Speida ok
19:03 andreasbalzer (but not 777 if possible)
19:03 Speida i did 777
19:03 Speida lol
19:03 Speida ok
19:03 Speida 666?
19:03 andreasbalzer ok ;)
19:03 andreasbalzer well 777 works
19:04 andreasbalzer but it's a little bit bad in terms of security
19:04 Speida ok done...
19:04 andreasbalzer ok
19:04 Speida i'll change it in a sec ;)
19:04 andreasbalzer everythings correct with image magic in basic config?
19:04 Speida should i reload the page?
19:04 andreasbalzer you can do so
19:05 Speida ya everythings fine there.. apart from that fatal erorr again..
19:05 andreasbalzer that's not good
19:05 Speida i scrolled down
19:05 WebMatt i must not know anything about this.. i dont know what "template" stuff you guys are talking about!!
19:05 Speida under update localconf.php
19:05 Speida and it says: Database: xxxx (NO ACCESS!)
19:05 andreasbalzer Speida: anyway: we can work with that, because it's possible to change that manually
19:06 andreasbalzer oh, that's a real problem
19:06 andreasbalzer do you have read and write access to that database?
19:06 Speida i just checked MYSQL and there are 36 tables there
19:06 andreasbalzer aem...
19:07 andreasbalzer those tables are generated by T3?
19:07 Speida ya cuz i just purchased the db today
19:08 andreasbalzer i'm just guessing, but could it be the case, that your hoster needs some time to get it working right?
19:08 Speida ya it did.. in fact i got the activation details 1 hour later i got it ;)
19:08 Speida but it works now.. cuz i'm on the hosting MYSQL
19:08 Speida and using it
19:08 andreasbalzer ok.. there are some things we can try now.
19:09 andreasbalzer 1) ask in the TYPO3 mailinglists
19:09 andreasbalzer 2) ask your hoster whether your DB works correct..
19:09 Speida typo3 says i'm connected to it..
19:09 andreasbalzer does it work now?
19:10 Speida it says
19:10 Speida Check database:
19:10 Speida Connected to SQL database successfully
19:10 Speida Database
19:10 Speida Sql140908_1 is selected as database.
19:10 Speida Write config to localconf.php:
19:10 Speida Fatal error encountered!
19:10 Speida Somewhere above a fatal configuration problem is encountered. Please make sure that you've fixed this error before you submit the configuration. TYPO3 will not run if this problem is not fixed!
19:10 Speida You should also check all warnings that may appear.
19:10 Speida so prob is because of the memory right?
19:11 andreasbalzer no
19:11 Speida cuz thats the only warning that i get
19:11 andreasbalzer relook for any entry and check whether all the chmod things are correct
19:11 andreasbalzer is your file still chmod'ed as 777?
19:12 Speida the localconf.php yes
19:12 andreasbalzer please try another value..
19:12 andreasbalzer this could be the problem..
19:12 Speida 666 is fine?
19:12 andreasbalzer just try it.. i don't know
19:12 WebMatt ergh
19:13 Speida well same fatal error
19:13 Speida and now on tops it says
19:13 Speida Warning: mysql_list_dbs() [function.mysql-list-dbs]: Unable to save MySQL query result in /web/htdocs/www.speidadesign.com/Users/<removed>/t3lib/class.t3lib_db.php on line 948
19:13 Speida Warning: mysql_fetch_object(): supplied argument is not a valid MySQL result resource in /web/htdocs/www.speidadesign.com/Users/<removed>/t3lib/class.t3lib_db.php on line 949
19:13 andreasbalzer Speida: ok, it's very strange and difficult, but there's still one thing we can try..
19:13 Speida okay
19:14 andreasbalzer Speida: Firstly, start to cry. Secondly do it loud.. ..Thirdly, hope Ries will help you :)
19:14 andreasbalzer Ries: Are you there?
19:14 Speida lol
19:14 andreasbalzer Ries is our all-knowing genius :)
19:15 Speida ;)
19:15 andreasbalzer as a second option.. ask in the mailinglist ;)
19:15 Speida i can try to change db
19:15 Speida i have 5 db in the same host...
19:16 andreasbalzer if one does not work it's very unlikely that another will work
19:16 Speida how do i ask in the mailinglist?
19:16 bedlamhotel webMatt: TYPO3 needs to be told how to render pages. Try either one of "Modern Template Building" or "Futuristic Template Building." It'll help if you have an HTML templat lying around to use...
19:17 andreasbalzer Speida: you can access the mailinglist by mail here: http://lists.netfielders.de/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo
19:17 andreasbalzer or via newsreader here http://typo3.org/community/mailing-lists/
19:17 Speida ok....
19:17 andreasbalzer bedlanhotel: webMatt has signed off
19:17 Speida and how does it work? :S
19:18 andreasbalzer do you have thunderbird?
19:18 Speida no
19:18 andreasbalzer hm. ok.
19:18 andreasbalzer mailinglist means you get thousands of emails to an adress you like
19:18 andreasbalzer and you can just post something through sending a mail
19:18 andreasbalzer newsreader means you access a newsgroup
19:19 andreasbalzer alternativly, you can also use support.typo3.org which provides a web interface
19:19 Speida ok...
19:20 Speida but i dunno how to look for wat to do if i don;'t kno wat the prioblem is
19:20 andreasbalzer just post information about what you have done, and what errors you got then..
19:21 Speida oh
19:22 Speida it didnt look this complicated when i saw it on the website :S
19:23 Speida never had such probems to install smth :S
19:23 andreasbalzer well as it looks like, this problem has not much to do with T3, but with your web host configuration
19:23 andreasbalzer maybe there's a solution..
19:24 andreasbalzer the strange thing about it is, that your DB seems to spontanously there but sometimes it's just not accessible..
19:24 Speida but typo3 says its connectd to it
19:25 andreasbalzer well.. as you have written.. sometimes it is, and sometimes it says DB is not accessible.. Also your localconf is not always accessible, which could become a problem
19:25 Ries Speida: do you use some new version of mysql?
19:25 andreasbalzer Ries: thanks for helping him :)
19:26 Speida hmm jsut checking the verision of mysql
19:26 Speida 5.0
19:27 Speida MySQL: 5.0.37-standard-log
19:28 Ries sounds good...
19:28 Speida okay...
19:28 Ries what are you trying to save what fails?
19:28 Speida well... i got a fatal error
19:28 Speida here:
19:28 Speida Write config to localconf.php:
19:28 Speida Fatal error encountered!
19:29 Speida and
19:29 Speida Memory limit below 16 MB
19:29 Speida and just now at the beginning it says:
19:29 Speida Warning: mysql_list_dbs() [function.mysql-list-dbs]: Unable to save MySQL query result in /web/htdocs/www.speidadesign.com/Users/<removed>/t3lib/class.t3lib_db.php on line 948
19:29 Speida Warning: mysql_fetch_object(): supplied argument is not a valid MySQL result resource in /web/htdocs/www.speidadesign.com/Users/<removed>/t3lib/class.t3lib_db.php on line 949
19:31 Speida oh
19:32 Speida and under Update localconf.php
19:32 Speida Database: xxxx (NO ACCESS!)
19:32 Ries You need to have your memory set to 32-48MB... start with that
19:32 Speida but the db has 36 tables created by typo3
19:32 Speida how do i do that?
19:32 Ries Hmmm that is odd, don't worry to much about that
19:32 Ries worry to much about the access problem
19:33 Ries there is a setting in the install tool that will aloow you to set the memory limit
19:33 Speida under all configuration?
19:34 Speida [setMemoryLimit]
19:34 Speida ?
19:35 Ries yes
19:35 Ries try 48Mb
19:35 Speida ok done..
19:35 Speida fatal error is gone :D
19:36 Speida but on top it still says:
19:36 Speida Warning: mysql_list_dbs() [function.mysql-list-dbs]: Unable to save MySQL query result in /web/htdocs/www.speidadesign.com/Users/<removed>/t3lib/class.t3lib_db.php on line 948
19:36 Speida Warning: mysql_fetch_object(): supplied argument is not a valid MySQL result resource in /web/htdocs/www.speidadesign.com/Users/<removed>/t3lib/class.t3lib_db.php on line 949
19:38 ceed turn on sql debug?
19:38 ceed in install tool
19:38 Speida [sqlDebug]
19:38 Speida ?
19:38 Speida this 1?
19:39 ceed yeah
19:39 Speida ok
19:39 ceed it will output the query above the error
19:39 Speida still there...
19:39 Speida (the warnings)
19:39 ceed does it give more information?
19:40 ceed in red?
19:40 Speida no
19:40 Speida just on top
19:40 Speida before i managed to take it away modifying a file
19:40 Speida but i dun remember which one :S
19:41 andreasbalzer localconf?
19:41 Speida and wat do i need to modify? :S
19:42 Speida before u told me to uncomment smth didnt u?
19:43 Speida in smth like index.php
19:43 andreasbalzer me? no
19:45 Speida so why does it give me those warnings? :S
19:46 Speida :(
19:48 Speida ok i give up :S
19:48 andreasbalzer well..
19:48 Speida i tried clicking on the frontend website and it says no files found at root level :(
19:48 andreasbalzer please reupload the file class.t3lib.php
19:48 Speida nothing works here
19:48 andreasbalzer Speida: nono
19:48 fred^ how do i set the default valign of a table created in the RTE to top?
19:48 andreasbalzer Speida: the Fe is right
19:49 Ries Speida: You don't see a SQL file below/above the error?
19:49 Speida ok...
19:49 Speida it jus says
19:49 Speida Warning: mysql_list_dbs() [function.mysql-list-dbs]: Unable to save MySQL query result in /web/htdocs/www.speidadesign.com/Users/<removed>/t3lib/class.t3lib_db.php on line 948
19:49 Speida Warning: mysql_fetch_object(): supplied argument is not a valid MySQL result resource in /web/htdocs/www.speidadesign.com/Users/<removed>/t3lib/class.t3lib_db.php on line 949
19:49 Ries like andreasbalzer says, if you turn sqldebug on, you will see the error
19:49 andreasbalzer Speida: you first have to install T3 then you have to go to the BE and create a template and then you'll see something in FE ;)
19:49 Ries Speida: can you re-check if sqldebug is on in the install tool?
19:49 andreasbalzer Ries: i didn't say that ;)
19:49 Ries andreasbalzer: then you where thinbking it?
19:50 Speida [SYS][sqlDebug] = 1
19:50 andreasbalzer of course I thought about ;)
19:50 Speida it means is on
19:50 andreasbalzer yes
19:50 fred^ default.tagStdWrap.HTMLparser.tags.td.overrideAttribs ?
19:50 andreasbalzer please try to re-upload the file
19:50 Speida which one?
19:50 fred^ that probaly doesnt affect the RTE, but the parsing
19:50 andreasbalzer t3lib/class.t3lib_db.php on line 948
19:52 Speida still says it :(
19:53 Speida ugh...
19:53 andreasbalzer hm..
19:55 andreasbalzer just a try.. wait until tomorrow and see, whether it'll work.. maybe your hoster needs some time
19:55 Speida dun think so :S otherwise it wouldnt say the lines number
19:56 andreasbalzer the problem: it works with a million of other databases... why doesn't it work with yours... you know.. it's strange
19:56 Speida before i stopped getting those messages.. then it came back :S
19:57 andreasbalzer try to remove the temp files again.. maybe there's an old value stored into...
19:57 Speida ok
19:58 Speida there are no temp files
19:58 andreasbalzer ok..
19:58 andreasbalzer even not via FTP?
19:58 andreasbalzer typo3conf/temp*
20:00 Speida ya i did it via ftp.. nothing there
20:00 andreasbalzer please consider asking in the mailinglist
20:00 Speida :(
20:00 andreasbalzer you need a core developer i guess
20:01 Speida hmmm
20:02 Speida wt if i continue anyways?
20:02 andreasbalzer it should workj
20:02 Speida so how do i continue? how do i get out from the installer?
20:03 andreasbalzer just open /typo3
20:03 andreasbalzer aeh..did you set up an admin user?
20:03 Speida nope
20:03 Speida do i do that on database analyzer?
20:03 andreasbalzer this has to be done in install tool
20:03 andreasbalzer no
20:04 Speida where?
20:04 andreasbalzer oh sry
20:04 andreasbalzer it has to be done in database analyzer...
20:04 Speida ok
20:05 andreasbalzer "Create 'admin' user"
20:06 pulponair good evening my estimable friends
20:06 Speida yep i'm already in ;)
20:06 Speida thx
20:07 pulponair andreasbalzer: are you arround?
20:08 andreasbalzer sure
20:08 andreasbalzer pulponair: do you have skype?
20:08 pulponair andreasbalzer: not ready atm
20:08 Speida so there are no temmplate with typo3?
20:08 andreasbalzer Speida: there are
20:09 andreasbalzer Speida: what package do you use?
20:09 Speida downloaded from teh website
20:09 andreasbalzer dummy, testsite, ...?
20:09 Speida dummy
20:09 Speida source with dummy
20:10 andreasbalzer 04[22:11] andreasbalzer: 01ok. there would have been a package with a complete testsite.. anyway
20:10 andreasbalzer go to the page module
20:10 Speida where?
20:11 andreasbalzer left navigation
20:11 Speida about modules?
20:11 andreasbalzer no, Web > Page
20:11 Speida ok done
20:12 Speida and now?
20:12 andreasbalzer i just don't have much time..
20:12 Speida Web>Page module
20:12 Speida Please click the page title in the page tree to the left to edit page content.
20:12 andreasbalzer basically: create a page, add some content
20:12 Speida there isnt anything
20:12 andreasbalzer click on the root node
20:12 Speida done.. nothing happens :S
20:12 andreasbalzer can somebody guide Speida until he reaches the template module?
20:14 Speida guess not lol
20:14 andreasbalzer gimme 15 minutes please
20:14 Speida k thx
20:15 Ries Speida: did you see teh video tutorials?
20:15 Speida no
20:17 Speida where are they?
20:21 Ries Speida: I think on typo3.org
20:21 Ries Speida: you are a starter with typo3?
20:24 Speida yes
20:25 Speida cant find the videos :S
20:26 Speida ok found them
20:32 Speida ok i understand now... just one think that i dont understand.. how to put a template
20:32 Speida cuz it says tempalte not found
20:46 fred^ doh
20:46 fred^ is there any way i can add tags by default to tables created in the rte?
20:52 gerards fred^: use HTMLparse is one way.
20:52 gerards HTMLparser
20:53 gerards fred^: define "add tags to tables"
20:57 fred^ i want the default valign to be top
20:57 gerards use #1 CSS
20:57 fred^ default.tagStdWrap.HTMLparser.tags.td.overrideAttribs ?
20:57 gerards #2 HTMLparser
20:57 gerards yep.
20:58 fred^ i tried to add it to the tsconfig
20:58 fred^ it did not impose any changes
20:58 gerards fred^: to be pedantic about it :p, you should have said "add attributes by default to tables"
20:58 fred^ yeah :D
20:58 gerards are you using css-styled-content?
20:58 fred^ yep
20:59 gerards then make a change to lib.parseFunc_rte or soemting...
21:00 gerards lib.parseFunc_RTE
21:00 gerards lib.parseFunc_RTE.tags.td.whatever
21:00 gerards hope it works.
21:00 fred^ ive been wandering around the typoscript object browser, been there
21:00 fred^ let me try it one more time
21:02 gerards ooops i think you're right.
21:02 gerards it won't work.
21:02 fred^ darn it.
21:02 gerards that's coz tt_content.text.20.parseFunc is a "parseFunc" not a "HTMLparser"
21:03 gerards tags.td.whatever is for HTMLparse i think.
21:03 fred^ but htmlparser collects stuff from parsefunc, if im not totally wrong and mistaken - which i often are
21:03 fred^ as in use whats specified in lib.parseFunc_RTE
21:04 gerards well in any case tt_content.text.20.parseFunc.tags.td will not be understood.
21:04 gerards you need to do
21:05 gerards tt_content.text.20.HTMLparser=1
21:05 gerards tt_content.text.20.HTMLparser.tags.td.whatever = whatever
21:06 fred^ let me try that
21:06 fred^ should it work?
21:06 gerards :)
21:06 gerards :p
21:06 fred^ :)
21:06 gerards :D
21:06 fred^ :D
21:06 gerards ;p
21:06 fred^ tired tired
21:06 gerards a couple of minutes more fred^.
21:07 fred^ hehe :D im staying up till after midnight, waiting for the next announce of new artists being booked to the Hove festival in norway
21:26 uschi hi folks :)
21:38 pulponair uschi: :hi
21:38 uschi hey pulponair :))
21:40 pulponair damn my beer drink mate stood me up. :|
21:41 uschi hihi
21:41 uschi perhaps we are in the same situation, pulponair
21:41 pulponair now i am left stranded
21:41 pulponair even more worse
21:41 uschi awake, but we do not know what to do right now :)
21:42 uschi there are to many things we should do (for me it was 'sekt' by the way)
21:42 pulponair i should walk down to the filling station and get myself some beer holder
21:42 uschi well, it is a cheering and warm night, at least here in erfurt
21:42 pulponair uschi: i was busy bee today already
21:43 pulponair uschi: look http://typo3.org/extensions/repository/view/nh_tvdragndrop/0.0.1/
21:43 pulponair uschi: os i hard-earned some beers ! ;)
21:44 uschi great :)
21:44 uschi let me download the manual, ok :)
21:46 pulponair uschi: still beta ...you dont need the manual see www.chaosbutze.de/dragndrop2.avi
21:46 pulponair :)
21:46 pulponair brb
21:49 uschi ok, pulponair :)
21:53 uschi the avi looks great
21:54 koomi pulponair: you're so not web 2.0 with that video :)
21:54 koomi holy shit
21:55 koomi that's amazing :)
21:55 koomi is it stable for production?
21:55 uschi it looks like it, does not it, koomi?
21:55 koomi stable?
21:55 koomi you never know until it crashes :)
21:56 uschi he is out, koomi, to the station to buy some bottles of beer :)
21:56 koomi that's more or less standard. it's the rare moments you get him at his pc :)
21:56 uschi hihi
22:01 fred^ .avi
22:01 fred^ swoshswosh
22:02 koomi iiek. uschi!
22:02 fred^ u two little geniouses
22:02 koomi the extension is from ... *scary moment* pulponair himself!
22:02 fred^ i need a way to set the default valign of table cells created in the RTE to top, is there any?
22:02 koomi fred^: don't you genius me! we haven't even met :)
22:02 uschi yes, i know, fred
22:02 koomi fred^: we call that C S S
22:02 fred^ koomi: come to the hove festival, lets have a beer : D
22:03 koomi that is something like web 1.5 :)
22:03 fred^ koomi u rockz
22:03 fred^ vel
22:03 fred^ wel
22:03 fred^ well
22:03 koomi lol
22:03 fred^ i was about to ask
22:03 uschi he told me about it, and because he worked a lot on it over easter, he is now out to buy some beer
22:03 uschi what the hell is the hove festival?
22:03 fred^ http://www.hovefestival.com/
22:03 fred^ its gonna fucxin rock
22:03 fred^ its a great upcoming festival
22:04 koomi prolly a rock festival too
22:04 koomi norway :)
22:04 koomi not quite my corner of europe
22:04 uschi neither it is mine
22:04 fred^ but yeah, koomi: my guy need to be able to add a simple two column list with an image to the left and a text along with it, easily, in the RTE.
22:04 fred^ well mainly rock
22:05 fred^ but its pretty varied
22:05 fred^ im going there to see as many as possible
22:05 fred^ but most of all, for bright eyes, yeah
22:05 pulponair kommi: not yet production ready but usable
22:05 pulponair kommi: there are some issues with workspacs but outsite workspace it works quite well
22:06 pulponair koomi: except for a cut n paste issue but i ll fix that soon ..until i know how ;)
22:06 koomi pulponair: cheers
22:06 koomi doesn't work in konqueror tho :(
22:06 koomi not that the rte does .. :)
22:07 pulponair koomi: yes i know havent had time to performe crossbrowser testing
22:07 pulponair kommi: i going to set up a bugtracker and a web 2.0 flv video right now
22:07 uschi pulponair, congrats for that extension
22:07 fred^ so koomi, show me ur web 2.0 magic lol
22:07 fred^ xD
22:08 pulponair uschi: thanks do you think it is useful?
22:08 pulponair of course it is;)
22:08 uschi sure it is
22:08 pulponair the bad thing is that tv is so creepy
22:08 fred^ creepy? :D
22:08 fred^ does it scare you at night
22:08 koomi pulponair: Error: Sortable is not defined
22:08 koomi Source File: http://localhost/playground/typo3conf/ext/templavoila/mod1/index.php?id=5
22:08 koomi Line: 667
22:08 koomi in firefox 2.0.0.3 linux
22:09 pulponair tv version?
22:09 pulponair t3 version?
22:09 pulponair you need at least t3 4.1 and tv 1.3.0
22:09 koomi 1.1.1
22:09 koomi 4..1.
22:09 koomi ah :)
22:09 koomi you should add a dependency :)
22:09 pulponair koomi: that is covered by the manual
22:09 pulponair koomi: i thought i did that
22:10 koomi didn't get any messages
22:12 koomi hmm. anything i might have missed? updated tv, cleared cache, typo3 version is 4.1.1
22:15 koomi still get
22:15 koomi Error: Sortable is not defined
22:15 koomi Source File: http://localhost/playground/typo3conf/ext/templavoila/mod1/index.php?id=4
22:15 koomi Line: 565
22:15 pulponair koomi: do you use some other tv extensions?
22:16 koomi (my playground install on my laptop)
22:16 koomi http://phpfi.com/226210
22:16 koomi is an updated version - from 4.0.something to 4.1.1, so some extensions might be a bit older
22:18 pulponair same over here
22:19 pulponair it must be related to some extensions
22:19 pulponair please check for any xclasses that overid tv mod1
22:21 koomi how? :)
22:21 pulponair koomi: are you admin?
22:21 koomi jein? :)
22:21 pulponair koomi: could you try another page using a differen layout?
22:21 pulponair koomi: jein?
22:22 fred^ damdidam
22:22 koomi i switched to a different template
22:23 pulponair koomi:php version?
22:23 koomi no changes
22:23 fred^ koomi not to bother you in tough times, did you see my issue?
22:23 fred^ or anyone else for that matter
22:23 pulponair koomi: are there content elements placed on that page?
22:23 koomi php 5.2.1-r3
22:23 koomi fred^: do it with class/style for table rows.
22:23 pulponair does it complains about sortable or sortables?
22:23 koomi pulponair: jep. empty text ce
22:24 koomi "Sortable"
22:24 pulponair could you provide screenshot?
22:24 pulponair wiht S or s ?
22:24 koomi capital S
22:24 koomi that's the firefox js console message:
22:24 koomi Error: Sortable is not defined
22:24 koomi Source File: http://localhost/playground/typo3conf/ext/templavoila/mod1/index.php?id=4
22:24 koomi Line: 585
22:25 pulponair koomi: ah ok
22:25 koomi http://netzkind.org/tmp/pulp.png
22:26 pulponair koomi: have a look at the typo3/contrib directory does it contains scriptaculous?
22:26 koomi jep
22:27 pulponair ok it think i got it ...
22:27 pulponair koomi : different installation layout
22:27 pulponair koomi: stay tuned i fix it and report back
22:27 koomi ^^
22:31 fred^ yay vertical-align to the rescue
22:33 pulponair koomi: : is the contrib dir readable by the webserver?
22:34 koomi pulponair: jep
22:34 pulponair sure ? can you surf /typo3/contrib....xx.js?
22:34 koomi chown apache typo3* -R
22:35 koomi same error
22:36 koomi script.aculo.us scriptaculous.js v1.7.0, Fri Jan 19 19:16:36 CET 2007
22:37 koomi pulponair: i gtg to bed. dead tired. we'll need to debug that tomorrow :)
22:37 koomi nighty night
22:37 pulponair ok
22:37 pulponair koomi: just a last question!
22:38 pulponair koomi: is your t3 installation located in localhost/typo3?
22:38 pulponair koomi: or ar there any subdirs?
22:42 fred^ nighty night
22:48 pulponair everyone asleep?
22:50 fred^ nah, coding css and watching andrew bird on youtube
22:50 fred^ should be asleep tho
22:51 fred^ whats the time in germany
22:51 fred^ ?
22:51 fred^ same timezone as us or?
22:51 fred^ norway that is
22:54 fred^ http://youtube.com/watch?v=hUjBe21xEgk
22:56 pulponair fred^: no way ...its 01:00 am over here
22:57 fred^ yeah same
22:57 pulponair am? pm? i used to mistake it ...anyone one hour past midnight
22:57 fred^ am
22:57 fred^ after midnight, isnt it
22:57 pulponair no it is after meridian ...meanin afternoon? i dont know i ve to look it up
23:02 bedlamhotel am = before noon, pm = afternoon. The 'a' is for 'ante,' and the 'p' is for 'post'...
23:03 gerards we learn all kinds of new stuff here in typo3 irc channel.
23:04 gerards pulponair: very nice demo btw. used prototype / scriptaculous?
23:04 pulponair gerards: yes
23:05 gerards any reason why you didn't use Dojo?
23:05 gerards i prefer prototype and script myself. I'm not super impressed with dojo. but just wanted to hear your opinion.
23:07 fred^ yeah : O
23:07 pulponair gerards: because scriptaculous ships with typo3 4.1
23:08 pulponair gerads: and i am quite familiar to it ...no technical reasons
23:08 gerards really that's the reason you used script?
23:08 gerards ah. ok.
23:08 pulponair gerards: tv itself is ugly enought i did nt want to spend extra time in using a new framework
23:08 gerards sure.
23:08 pulponair gerads: but perhaps i ll provide a dojo fallback at a later state
23:09 gerards i think its the right decision by the way.
23:09 pulponair gerards: regarding what?
23:09 gerards dojo vs script.
23:10 pulponair gerards: to be honest i havent used dojo yet since all major frameworks if worked with so far (rails and all those php rails clones) ship with scriptaculous
23:11 pulponair gerads: btw i just uploaded a new version fixe a small glitch and tata i post an flv video :)
23:12 pulponair gerads: did you ever dig through tv?
23:12 gerards pulponair: no.
23:12 gerards i fear TV code...
23:12 pulponair gerads: ugly like hell never seen such a crap
23:12 gerards i look at it once.
23:13 gerards to solve a problem. sigh... horrible. I guessed what i needed from the the database xml instead.
23:13 pulponair yeah ...
23:13 pulponair gerads: did you notice the copy paste functionallity?
23:14 gerards nope.
23:14 gerards but you seem to have implemented that well right?
23:14 pulponair well they adress ces by their position in the surrounding allement ...
23:14 pulponair gerads: i was refering to the orinal one
23:14 pulponair gerads: not fully since i need to update every paste button on movement
23:15 gerards nope. i'm afraid not. like i said, TV code scares me.
23:15 pulponair gerards: due to those source=parent:id:field:xx:position:3 allocation
23:16 pulponair gerads:yeah you would even more fear it if workspaces and multilangueges come into play :)
23:16 pulponair horrible
23:16 gerards oh yeah! i look at it in 3.x
23:16 gerards before workspaces.
23:17 gerards i don't remember what version, but it was before that.
23:17 gerards makes what you did a lot more impressive i think. well done Provito
23:17 pulponair gerads: to be honest imho the whole thing needs to be rewriten from scratch
23:17 gerards makes what you did a lot more impressive i think. well done pulponair
23:18 gerards :) yeah... right. Every programmer thinks "i should re-write it from scratch" at least 4 times a day.
23:18 pulponair :) ...to be honest it wasnt that much complicated ...the bad thing is that i had to use xclasse due to the fact that tv itself isnt that much well structured
23:18 pulponair gerards: yeah :)
23:19 pulponair gerads: btw: where are you from?
23:20 gerards i'm living in ecuador.
23:20 fred^ http://www.myspace.com/jeanbaudin listen to this one. very nice bass player
23:20 gerards but i was born in Singapore.
23:20 gerards alright boys.
23:20 gerards gonna have to cook now.
23:20 pulponair gerards: hey so you may know ries
23:21 gerards yeah. i know ries.
23:21 gerards he taught me t3.
23:21 gerards :)
23:21 pulponair gerards: so do you live nearby his place?
23:21 gerards not really about 20 minutes by bus.
23:22 pulponair hehe that is nearby ;)
23:22 gerards i go there sometimes to talk about databases and stuff.
23:22 gerards yeah its pretty nearby.
23:23 pulponair gerards: nerdy talking ;)
23:24 gerards nerd talk. hahahah! yeah.
23:24 gerards ok. need to go.
23:24 pulponair gerards: i hat a few chats with ries. if you guys ever visit germany drop me a message
23:24 gerards sure.
23:24 pulponair gerards: have fun ;)
23:25 fred^ nighty guys
23:25 fred^ night
23:34 pulponair hmmm t3 guys are screwing the ter atm
23:36 bedlamhotel looks ok. What are they doing?
23:38 pulponair bedlamhotel: i just uploaded and extenson version 0.0.2 and it apeared as 0.0.2 at the ter page...but know its 0.0.1 again
23:38 pulponair bedlamhotel: update it is 0.0.2 again
23:44 bedlamhotel :-S
23:47 pulponair is there something like jsconsole in opera?
23:49 gerards pulponair i asked the same thing weeks ago
23:49 gerards its called an error console.
23:49 pulponair gerads: how to access it?
23:50 gerards good thing is that opera has a debug state ment called opera.debug or soemthing...
23:50 gerards er... let me fire up opera.
23:50 pulponair gerads: are there any opera/scriptaculous issues known to you?
23:50 gerards not that i know of.
23:50 gerards tools->advanced->error console
23:51 gerards but from my (very limited) experience, opera's javascript seems very fussy. very strict.
23:52 gerards FF is forgive in comparison.
23:52 gerards FF is forgiving in comparison.
23:57 pulponair gerads : yeah you are right it doesnt even like newlines :)

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