| 01:42 |
pwatol |
Is anyone here? |
| 03:29 |
PaulLS |
Hi all, I'm trying to include a php script to output content into a page and am following the tutorial at http://typo3.org/documentation/document-library/references/doc_core_tsref/4.0.0/view/14/1/ ... it's a bit unclear as to where I'd define the element on the actual page itself and how to go about doing that |
| 04:18 |
brain-xy |
hi all |
| 06:40 |
uschi |
good morning folks :)) |
| 06:41 |
uschi |
morning koomi_ |
| 06:53 |
uschi |
koomi, are you talkative already? |
| 06:54 |
dax77 |
good morning @all |
| 06:54 |
uschi |
morning dax77 |
| 06:54 |
uschi |
*yawn* |
| 06:54 |
dax77 |
oh, up early :) |
| 06:55 |
uschi |
yes, struggling with file permissions |
| 06:55 |
uschi |
why is it, that even as an admin i cannot delete a whole directory from fileadmin |
| 06:57 |
uschi |
and then i need to understand what is meant by indexing with respect to dam |
| 06:57 |
uschi |
that is the task for the day |
| 06:57 |
dax77 |
you have to define the recursive-delet-level |
| 06:57 |
dax77 |
its in your user setup |
| 06:57 |
uschi |
aha, and where? |
| 06:57 |
uschi |
there is an option for the page tree |
| 06:57 |
uschi |
but for files? |
| 06:58 |
dax77 |
Directory: Delete recursively (rm -Rf) |
| 06:58 |
dax77 |
tools->user |
| 06:59 |
uschi |
aaaah, there it is |
| 07:14 |
brain-xy |
morning all.. |
| 07:15 |
brain-xy |
pizza for breakfast? |
| 07:16 |
uschi |
there is some left from yesterday night, brain-xy, want some? |
| 07:16 |
brain-xy |
no.. i meant if i should throw one into my ofen :P |
| 07:16 |
brain-xy |
but.. yes.. i can't have enough of pizza :) |
| 07:19 |
brain-xy |
hurray :D |
| 07:39 |
koomi |
uschi: now :) wasn't even there |
| 07:40 |
uschi |
morning :) |
| 07:41 |
koomi |
moin :) |
| 07:57 |
Phlogiston_ |
hello guys :) |
| 08:18 |
Phlogiston_ |
oh no one here on saturdays? =) |
| 08:21 |
bane007 |
hi there! |
| 08:22 |
bane007 |
is it possible to choose only specific pages for menu? |
| 08:24 |
bane007 |
aha i found it |
| 08:25 |
af_ |
hi, how could I select a different html template for each language? |
| 08:26 |
bane007 |
af_ try if statements |
| 08:27 |
af_ |
I have this now: content.file = fileadmin/template/main/template.it.html |
| 08:27 |
af_ |
on what variable should I do the if? |
| 08:27 |
koomi |
af_: you don't use tv, right? |
| 08:27 |
af_ |
config.language? |
| 08:28 |
koomi |
you need a condition |
| 08:28 |
af_ |
koomi, right, is the plain static things |
| 08:28 |
koomi |
depending on the language, you take a different template |
| 08:28 |
koomi |
so define your constants like template.it = $it, template.en = $en |
| 08:28 |
koomi |
and in the condition test for the language used |
| 08:29 |
koomi |
http://typo3.org/documentation/document-library/references/doc_core_tsref/4.0.0/view/4/1/ |
| 08:29 |
koomi |
you should probably read the frontend localization guide before starting |
| 08:29 |
koomi |
will clear a lot of questions - and certainly raise some new ones :) |
| 08:30 |
af_ |
well I have localization working now |
| 08:31 |
af_ |
oh perfect (the url) |
| 08:31 |
af_ |
let's see |
| 08:44 |
af_ |
[globalVar = GP:L = 1] is a correct if? |
| 08:48 |
koomi |
looks good |
| 08:49 |
koomi |
you can always test it with page.20 = TEXT, page.20.value = L=1 worked :) |
| 08:50 |
af_ |
some pieces are missing |
| 08:50 |
af_ |
[globalVar = GP:L=1] |
| 08:50 |
af_ |
config { |
| 08:50 |
af_ |
template = fileadmin/template/main/template.it.html |
| 08:50 |
af_ |
} |
| 08:51 |
af_ |
how could I retrieve this? |
| 08:51 |
af_ |
config.template? |
| 08:51 |
af_ |
content.file = config.template |
| 08:51 |
af_ |
does nto work |
| 08:55 |
koomi |
af_: if you want to use a constant you need to access it via {$constantName} |
| 08:56 |
koomi |
in your case it would be {$config.file} or even better {$mySite.template.it} so you won't override anything |
| 08:58 |
af_ |
pff, no way |
| 08:58 |
af_ |
plugin.tx_automaketemplate_pi1 { content = FILEcontent.file = {$mysite} |
| 08:59 |
koomi |
plugin.tx_automaketemplate_pi1.content.file = {$mysite} |
| 08:59 |
koomi |
you sure about content = CONTENT, contnet.file = bla? |
| 09:00 |
koomi |
you could also change the constant's value ... |
| 09:00 |
koomi |
but that's v2 :) |
| 09:01 |
koomi |
af_: you could always use phpfi to post your ts code ... |
| 09:01 |
af_ |
what is that? |
| 09:02 |
af_ |
http://phpfi.com/226642 |
| 09:02 |
af_ |
here it id |
| 09:02 |
af_ |
it is |
| 09:02 |
af_ |
why line 26 does not works? |
| 09:04 |
koomi |
af_: because you did not define a constant correctly :) |
| 09:04 |
af_ |
so far so good |
| 09:05 |
koomi |
go to "info modify" in the template tool |
| 09:05 |
koomi |
and edit constants |
| 09:05 |
koomi |
there you'd define a few constants: mysite.template.it = bla, mysite.template.en = morebla |
| 09:05 |
koomi |
then you'd set the value of the template file in the conditition |
| 09:06 |
koomi |
hmm. phpfi is borked in konqueror |
| 09:07 |
koomi |
af_: like so http://phpfi.com/226643 |
| 09:08 |
koomi |
line 13 is important |
| 09:08 |
koomi |
your first language - or default language - is L = 0 by the way |
| 09:09 |
af_ |
http://phpfi.com/226644 -> why the if does not works? |
| 09:09 |
koomi |
af_: do you have &L=1 in your url? |
| 09:09 |
af_ |
yes |
| 09:09 |
koomi |
af_: add page.20 = TEXT, page.20.value = a test in that condition |
| 09:10 |
koomi |
to see if it works |
| 09:10 |
koomi |
but! |
| 09:10 |
koomi |
you've got to define page = PAGE before that :) |
| 09:10 |
af_ |
uhm |
| 09:10 |
koomi |
(at least i think so) |
| 09:12 |
koomi |
[globalVar = GP:L=1] |
| 09:12 |
koomi |
config { |
| 09:12 |
koomi |
sys_language_uid = 1 |
| 09:12 |
koomi |
language = it |
| 09:12 |
koomi |
locale_all = it_IT |
| 09:12 |
koomi |
} |
| 09:12 |
koomi |
page.20 = TEXT |
| 09:12 |
koomi |
page.20.value = a test |
| 09:13 |
koomi |
[end] |
| 09:13 |
koomi |
works |
| 09:13 |
koomi |
even with page defined (page = PAGE) after the condition |
| 09:13 |
koomi |
so give this block a try: if you see "a test" at the bottom the condition is working |
| 09:13 |
koomi |
else it aint :) |
| 09:13 |
Phlogiston_ |
any templavoila users here? I'm going to use it for the first time and now I'm going to create my template. The main template how should it look like? It should contain the divs where the content and menus are filled in right? So its actually a normal template, just wihtout markers? |
| 09:14 |
koomi |
Phlogiston_: basicly yes. |
| 09:14 |
koomi |
Phlogiston_: instead of markers you select "leaves" from the "tree" |
| 09:14 |
koomi |
af_: don't be :) |
| 09:14 |
Phlogiston_ |
so I'm going to create a html and css file now? |
| 09:14 |
koomi |
Phlogiston_: jep |
| 09:14 |
Phlogiston_ |
Does TV recognize my divs later automatically then? |
| 09:15 |
koomi |
Phlogiston_: nope. you've got to select them |
| 09:15 |
Phlogiston_ |
ok |
| 09:15 |
koomi |
Phlogiston_: read the futuristic template building tutorial - they cover it pretty thorougly |
| 09:15 |
Phlogiston_ |
and I can create additional subtemplates for example the main part on my page right? |
| 09:15 |
Phlogiston_ |
yes after I've done that I will read there |
| 09:17 |
koomi |
af_: :) |
| 09:17 |
koomi |
af_: you can't use condition in {} |
| 09:18 |
koomi |
af_: http://phpfi.com/226645 like this (line 32ff) |
| 09:18 |
af_ |
now this line: content.file = fileadmin/template/main/template.it.html |
| 09:18 |
koomi |
oh. there's a . missing on line 33 |
| 09:19 |
af_ |
oh |
| 09:19 |
koomi |
this ought to work :) |
| 09:19 |
af_ |
non I am seeing now |
| 09:19 |
af_ |
let's see |
| 09:19 |
koomi |
np: Carmen McRae - Get It Straight (Live) |
| 09:20 |
koomi |
config.no_cache = 1 might be helpful |
| 09:20 |
af_ |
great it works! |
| 09:20 |
af_ |
so cool |
| 09:21 |
koomi |
^^ |
| 09:21 |
af_ |
now I have understood-> no if between {} |
| 09:21 |
af_ |
yeah |
| 09:22 |
koomi |
now try some constants (in the constant field this time) |
| 09:22 |
af_ |
and I have to put the thing after the definition |
| 09:26 |
af_ |
mysite.template.en = fileadmin/template/main/template.en.html -> this way? |
| 09:26 |
af_ |
but in "Constants"? |
| 09:26 |
af_ |
no in "Setup"? |
| 09:26 |
koomi |
constants :) |
| 09:27 |
koomi |
that way you've got one place to define everything that might change |
| 09:27 |
koomi |
without having to dig in your actual setup |
| 09:27 |
koomi |
+ it's handy because you can simply overwrite it for some pages with an extension template |
| 09:28 |
koomi |
af_: check the modern template building tutorial from typo3.org - i think they cover it there too |
| 09:28 |
af_ |
it does not work anymore |
| 09:28 |
af_ |
${mysite.template.en} |
| 09:29 |
koomi |
you broke it! :) |
| 09:29 |
koomi |
did you set mysite.template.en = fileadmin/something/something |
| 09:29 |
koomi |
in the constants field? |
| 09:29 |
af_ |
sure I dod |
| 09:29 |
af_ |
did |
| 09:29 |
koomi |
oh |
| 09:29 |
koomi |
{$mysite} |
| 09:29 |
koomi |
not ${mysite} |
| 09:29 |
koomi |
^^ |
| 09:30 |
muh-die-kuh |
is there a way to search for all extensions which have to be updated? |
| 09:31 |
koomi |
muh-die-kuh: if you find something like that please let me know |
| 09:33 |
muh-die-kuh |
i cant believe that there isnt such an option... |
| 09:33 |
muh-die-kuh |
but im looking for it for weeks now |
| 09:33 |
muh-die-kuh |
ill write to the ml, i guess |
| 09:33 |
koomi |
famous last words before someone wrote an extension |
| 09:35 |
muh-die-kuh |
;-) |
| 09:42 |
Richard-nl |
Hey hey |
| 09:42 |
Richard-nl |
Someone here? |
| 09:43 |
Richard-nl |
With FTP where can I find the SysFolder ? |
| 09:44 |
uschi |
hi Richard-nl |
| 09:44 |
Richard-nl |
Hey Hey |
| 09:44 |
uschi |
what do you mean by sysfolder here? |
| 09:45 |
koomi |
Richard-nl: the sysfolder is just a database entry. it's a special kind of page |
| 09:45 |
Richard-nl |
You can add a special forlder where users can down-/upload stuff. |
| 09:45 |
uschi |
you mean the a sysfolder in your page tree? |
| 09:45 |
uschi |
dax77? |
| 09:45 |
uschi |
are you there? |
| 09:45 |
dax77 |
jo |
| 09:45 |
Richard-nl |
Yes. |
| 09:46 |
uschi |
i still cannot delete my directories using dam file module |
| 09:46 |
dokma |
hi all |
| 09:46 |
Richard-nl |
I want do check what is inside that sysfolder with a FTP-programm |
| 09:46 |
dokma |
richard-nl sysfolders are not filesystem folders |
| 09:46 |
dokma |
they are database structures |
| 09:46 |
uschi |
Richard-nl, you cannot access a sysfolder via ftp, because it is a database record |
| 09:46 |
dax77 |
uschi: sorry, didn't know you were using dam - I don't :( |
| 09:46 |
Richard-nl |
Oh. |
| 09:46 |
dokma |
you cannot navigate them using ftp |
| 09:46 |
Richard-nl |
And when I add a page to it? |
| 09:46 |
dokma |
because they are not on the filesystem |
| 09:46 |
Richard-nl |
Oh. ok |
| 09:46 |
dokma |
same thing |
| 09:47 |
uschi |
then you add a new entry in table pages |
| 09:47 |
dokma |
it is all in the database |
| 09:47 |
Richard-nl |
Oh. |
| 09:47 |
dokma |
only things that you see in the file tab in the main menu |
| 09:47 |
dokma |
can be seen on the filesystem |
| 09:47 |
dokma |
those are actual files and folders |
| 09:48 |
Richard-nl |
Ahh... |
| 09:48 |
Richard-nl |
I get it now. |
| 09:48 |
uschi |
enlightenment on a lovely saturday morning |
| 09:48 |
Richard-nl |
Storage Folder is the same in that way |
| 09:48 |
dokma |
I've got a menu question: how do I make each menu entry a bit more to the right than the previous one by prepending to them? |
| 09:49 |
dokma |
so the first menu item has no |
| 09:49 |
dokma |
second one has |
| 09:49 |
dokma |
third etc. |
| 09:49 |
dokma |
can option split be used here? |
| 09:50 |
Richard-nl |
Make the first menu option also with a |
| 09:50 |
Richard-nl |
If someone rol-over it you remove the |
| 09:50 |
dokma |
you didn't get me right |
| 09:50 |
dokma |
I want the menu to look like this |
| 09:50 |
dokma |
item1 |
| 09:50 |
dokma |
item2 |
| 09:51 |
dokma |
item3 |
| 09:51 |
dokma |
item4 |
| 09:51 |
dokma |
where all items are on the same level |
| 09:51 |
Richard-nl |
I don't know that one. |
| 09:52 |
dokma |
I'll have to keep digging in the archives |
| 09:52 |
dokma |
option split seems to be somewhere near there |
| 09:52 |
dokma |
if I would define something like this |
| 09:52 |
dokma |
temp.optionsplit = || || || |
| 09:52 |
dokma |
but I do not know how to use it |
| 09:53 |
dokma |
how to write ts that makes that option split used and prepended to each menu item |
| 09:54 |
Richard-nl |
I cannot help you with that because I use a pre-made tamplete with already the menu in it (www.kringag.nl) |
| 09:54 |
uschi |
dokma, what are all those good for? |
| 09:55 |
uschi |
i do not understand what you want to achieve |
| 09:55 |
dokma |
to get my menu items aligned like this |
| 09:55 |
dokma |
item1 |
| 09:55 |
dokma |
item2 |
| 09:55 |
dokma |
item3 |
| 09:55 |
dokma |
item4 |
| 09:55 |
dokma |
for menu items all on the same level |
| 09:55 |
uschi |
what about using css for this? |
| 09:55 |
koomi |
same thought here |
| 09:55 |
uschi |
what is the markup for your menu? |
| 09:55 |
dokma |
classic ul |
| 09:56 |
uschi |
is item2 a subpage of item1, or are the all on the same level |
| 09:56 |
dokma |
all same level |
| 09:57 |
uschi |
you know, how many entries will be there? |
| 09:57 |
uschi |
so, four items and that is it? |
| 09:58 |
dokma |
not 100% |
| 09:58 |
dokma |
but there wont be much more that 5-7 |
| 09:58 |
uschi |
but it will not change very often? |
| 09:58 |
dokma |
no |
| 09:58 |
uschi |
ok, then i have an example for you :) |
| 09:59 |
uschi |
go to www.datenwolken.de and have a look at the clouds menu on top |
| 09:59 |
uschi |
this is a normal <ul> |
| 09:59 |
Richard-nl |
Thanks for the answer. See you. |
| 09:59 |
uschi |
ciao Richard-nl |
| 09:59 |
dokma |
adio richard |
| 10:00 |
uschi |
i shall paste the ts-code of the menu at phpfi.com, wait |
| 10:00 |
muh-die-kuh |
koomi: there are two possiblities to do this: TER Update Check ( ter_update_check ) and Light Extension Manager ( ch_lightem ) |
| 10:03 |
uschi |
dokma, ts-code for the clouds menu is here: http://phpfi.com/226648 |
| 10:03 |
dokma |
tx |
| 10:04 |
uschi |
you will have to write the appropriate css-classes, though |
| 10:04 |
dokma |
I see the trick is using field:title |
| 10:04 |
dokma |
is it possible to get item offset? |
| 10:04 |
dokma |
that would be much more practical for me |
| 10:05 |
uschi |
this is done via css |
| 10:05 |
uschi |
look at the classes in my css |
| 10:05 |
dokma |
I understood how you performed after typo3 is done |
| 10:05 |
dokma |
what I need is typo3 to output menu item offsets instead of page titles |
| 10:05 |
uschi |
class="classics" has a different position then class="webstuff" |
| 10:05 |
dokma |
after that css would be easy part |
| 10:06 |
dokma |
yes I understood that |
| 10:06 |
dokma |
all I need is to get menu item offset instead of page title |
| 10:06 |
uschi |
well in the datenwolken it is done via optionsplit |
| 10:06 |
dokma |
that might be my way |
| 10:06 |
dokma |
I just do not know how to do that |
| 10:06 |
uschi |
yes, but where to get the menu itemoffset from? |
| 10:06 |
dokma |
any examples of option split for this? |
| 10:07 |
dokma |
no clue |
| 10:07 |
dokma |
option split might suffice |
| 10:07 |
uschi |
this line is optionsplit: |
| 10:07 |
uschi |
allWrap = <li class="home off">|</li> || <li class="webstuff off">|</li> || <li class="classics off">|</li> || <li class="privat off">|</li> |
| 10:08 |
dokma |
aaaahhhh |
| 10:08 |
dokma |
darn |
| 10:08 |
dokma |
it was too obvious for me |
| 10:08 |
dokma |
i see it now |
| 10:08 |
dokma |
that is it |
| 10:08 |
dokma |
the problem is how to truncate the unneeded entries |
| 10:09 |
dokma |
because I would like to make it just a bit dynamic |
| 10:09 |
uschi |
which unneeded entries? |
| 10:09 |
dokma |
so I do not have to rewrite it every time |
| 10:09 |
dokma |
i change the number of entries |
| 10:09 |
uschi |
hmmmm |
| 10:09 |
dokma |
I would like to write the option split for lets say 10 elements |
| 10:09 |
dokma |
and then truncate the unneeded ones from the end |
| 10:09 |
uschi |
this means looping with split, and i did not get it yet |
| 10:10 |
dokma |
is it possible? |
| 10:10 |
uschi |
wrong way |
| 10:10 |
dokma |
Ill try to figure it out |
| 10:10 |
uschi |
see funtion split in tsref |
| 10:10 |
dokma |
ok |
| 10:11 |
koomi |
are there good oswd.org alternatives out there? |
| 10:12 |
uschi |
koomi, are you using dam? |
| 10:12 |
koomi |
good time to visit http://oswd.org then :) |
| 10:12 |
koomi |
uschi: nope. should i? |
| 10:12 |
uschi |
would be great, because i do have some questions |
| 10:14 |
koomi |
hehe |
| 10:28 |
uschi |
hi just2b_ :) |
| 10:28 |
just2b_ |
hi uschi |
| 10:28 |
uschi |
just2b_ do you use dam? |
| 10:29 |
just2b_ |
sometimes |
| 10:29 |
uschi |
can you explain to me in simple word, what indexing means and does? |
| 10:30 |
just2b_ |
every file has an entry in the Db so that you can store more information to a file and e.g. search for it and show in the BE how often and where an image is used |
| 10:31 |
koomi |
is there an extension which automagically detects certain strings in the page content and marks them or wraps them with custom content? so if a person's name is in the page content i could wrap it with a microformat/vcard entry? |
| 10:32 |
uschi |
and as long a file is not indexed, this entry in the db does not exist? |
| 10:32 |
uschi |
and that is it? |
| 10:37 |
just2b_ |
yes |
| 10:37 |
just2b_ |
not indexed > you can't use the file |
| 10:38 |
uschi |
do you know the exact table where this index is stored? |
| 10:58 |
reber |
hello typo3 world |
| 10:59 |
muh-die-kuh |
how can i find out what a specific cHash means? |
| 11:03 |
just2b_ |
maybe you can look inbto the chash table, bug just guessing |
| 11:03 |
koomi |
http://typo3.org/development/articles/the-mysteries-of-chash/ |
| 11:03 |
muh-die-kuh |
oh, thanks :) |
| 11:04 |
muh-die-kuh |
koomi: did you get my message regarding ter updating? |
| 11:04 |
koomi |
muh-die-kuh: jep. thanks :) |
| 11:33 |
dokma |
back from lunch/jogging |
| 11:33 |
dokma |
puf pant |
| 11:33 |
dokma |
:) |
| 11:33 |
dokma |
greets all |
| 12:02 |
Phlogiston_ |
I can't move my HMENU Layers with leftOffset, can you help me? http://www.schirin.net/zff/index.php?id=4 |
| 12:02 |
just2b_ |
Phlogiston_ why not using css? |
| 12:02 |
Phlogiston_ |
instead of table??? |
| 12:03 |
just2b_ |
oh you mean 2nd level? |
| 12:03 |
Phlogiston_ |
nope, first |
| 12:03 |
just2b_ |
1st level can be done with padding |
| 12:03 |
Phlogiston_ |
ok I will, not sure how... is it better in this case to not use a table? I had some troubles when I tried on anohter side, is there some example code somewhere? |
| 12:05 |
just2b_ |
you can still move a table with padding |
| 12:05 |
just2b_ |
no need to change to divs if you don'T want to |
| 12:05 |
Phlogiston_ |
hmm by the way are those Offsets from TS measured from browser window? My page is somewhere in the middle with a % margin from top, will this cause troubles? |
| 12:06 |
Phlogiston_ |
just2b_: if you strongly recommend me using divs, I will :) |
| 12:06 |
just2b_ |
i don't use layer menus, so sorry can't help more |
| 12:07 |
Phlogiston_ |
ok np |
| 12:08 |
just2b_ |
you can do the things also with css if you want to |
| 12:09 |
Phlogiston_ |
ah now it rocks ;) |
| 12:09 |
just2b_ |
take a look at http://www.just2b.com/mein-typo3/css-ts-menues.html |
| 12:09 |
Phlogiston_ |
ah thats you, I knew your page already! Thanks, its cool :) |
| 12:10 |
just2b_ |
yeah, just2b is always me;) |
| 12:10 |
just2b_ |
everywhere, typo3.net as mod, here, in www |
| 12:27 |
MasterYin |
hey everyone |
| 12:28 |
MasterYin |
got a question |
| 12:34 |
MasterYin |
how can I set the following condition: [PIDinRootline=5] temp.xyz.20.text.field = table_field ***WHRE |
| 12:34 |
Ries |
morning guys |
| 12:35 |
Ries |
MasterYin: Yoi need to put that in your typoscript setup |
| 12:35 |
MasterYin |
how can I set the following condition: [PIDinRootline=5] temp.xyz.20.text.field = table_field ***WHERE UID=5 [end] |
| 12:35 |
Phlogiston_ |
Is it possible to change the name of the id of items from a Layers Menu? So I can access them? |
| 12:35 |
just2b_ |
you wanna change IDs of a page?` |
| 12:36 |
Ries |
Phlogiston_: I never used TMENU_LAYERS...sorry |
| 12:36 |
MasterYin |
no, i want to use the table_field where the UID is 5 for example |
| 12:36 |
Ries |
Phlogiston_: if you are looking for not using tge page title in your menu but some other title then try alias and see if it is supported |
| 12:37 |
Phlogiston_ |
Hmm I was talking about the id="foohash" of the divs around the entries on first level |
| 12:39 |
Ries |
Phlogiston_: I never used tmenu_layers, I always make them from HEMNU's and TMENU's |
| 12:40 |
Phlogiston_ |
hmm ok... |
| 12:40 |
Ries |
I believe that a TMENU_LAYER is some kidna build in layer script... it might be hard coded, it might be configurable |
| 12:40 |
Phlogiston_ |
Ries: yes you're right.. |
| 12:41 |
Phlogiston_ |
<div id="itemID0da5a74c3d" style="width:100%; height:100%;"> <a href="index.php?id=3" onfocus="blurLink(this);" onmouseover="GL_hideAll("617238");" onmouseout="GL_resetAll("617238");">Home</a> |</div></td> |
| 12:41 |
Phlogiston_ |
i would like to change the style="...." |
| 12:42 |
Phlogiston_ |
hmm i could insert another div myself... but that quite much then |
| 12:43 |
null0_ |
hi |
| 12:43 |
Phlogiston_ |
you know what I want to do is to align the <a> link at the buttom of that div... Hmm I think I can do this easier with css... |
| 12:43 |
Phlogiston_ |
but how? =) |
| 12:44 |
Ries |
Phlogiston_: Why not make the it yourelf with hmenu's and tmenus? |
| 12:44 |
Phlogiston_ |
not sure :) |
| 12:44 |
Ries |
Phlogiston_: http://www.rvantwisk.nl/typo3-snippets/yacbddm-yet-another-css-based-drop-down-menu-for-typo3.html |
| 12:48 |
Phlogiston_ |
i found it now its hardcoded :( |
| 12:48 |
Phlogiston_ |
id="itemID'.t3lib_div::shortmd5($this->I['uid'].'-'.$this->WMid).'" style="width:100%; height:100%;">'.$item.'</div>'; |
| 12:49 |
Phlogiston_ |
Ries: and why is that one there better??? |
| 12:52 |
MasterYin |
I will ask my question agaim a little modified, how can a pick up a value from the Table "pages" with a spezial UID, normaly i use text.field = nav_title but the I got allways the nav_title from the page I just look at, how can I pick up allways the value from the page WHERE UID = *example 5* |
| 12:52 |
Ries |
Phlogiston_: it's better because you sir will have full control on what you generate and how your code looks like |
| 12:52 |
Ries |
Phlogiston_: I also found that tmenu_layers create a shit load of junk in the header increasing teh page size tremedously |
| 12:53 |
Phlogiston_ |
hmm... ok... strange. I can change that php file: typo3/sysext/cms/tslib/media/scripts/tmenu_layers.php clear all caches, but the output isn't changed... any idea on that? |
| 12:53 |
Ries |
MasterYin: you might need records in that case |
| 12:53 |
MasterYin |
can you give me an example ? |
| 12:53 |
Ries |
Phlogiston_: No clue, it shoudl have been changed I gues... |
| 12:54 |
Ries |
MasterYin: http://typo3.org/documentation/document-library/references/doc_core_tsref/4.0.0/view/8/10/ |
| 12:54 |
Ries |
MasterYin: I also think that typoscript by example has some good examples |
| 12:54 |
MasterYin |
thx thats what i search for |
| 12:55 |
Phlogiston_ |
Ries: ok I think you won... lets get rid of hmenu layers ;) but whats the best way to include that piece of javascript in my template? |
| 12:55 |
Ries |
Phlogiston_: I think the example was shown... |
| 12:55 |
Ries |
I also have a delayed version, so teh menu is less jumpy |
| 12:55 |
Phlogiston_ |
Ries: hmm with a text object... I'm using templavoila.... |
| 12:56 |
Phlogiston_ |
Ries: where? |
| 12:59 |
Ries |
I am using TV aswell, same rules apply |
| 12:59 |
Phlogiston_ |
Ries: do you have a link for a delayed version? or can you tell me how to change that? |
| 13:04 |
Phlogiston_ |
Ries: hmm? =) |
| 13:15 |
Ries |
Phlogiston_: hang on |
| 13:16 |
Ries |
Phlogiston_: see pm |
| 13:20 |
dokma |
anyone knows how to detect which font firefox selected for particular text? |
| 13:20 |
dokma |
i'm on linux |
| 13:20 |
dokma |
I installed win fonts |
| 13:21 |
dokma |
but it seems that firefox is using the same font no matter what I specify in css |
| 13:21 |
dokma |
I've got web developer extension installed |
| 13:22 |
dokma |
uschi u here? |
| 13:27 |
Phlogiston_ |
dokma: I would recommend you asking that in a linux or firefox channel |
| 13:27 |
dokma |
is there such a channel on this server? |
| 13:27 |
dokma |
I came here only for typo3 and I'm not that versed in irc |
| 13:28 |
Phlogiston_ |
yes there is |
| 13:28 |
Phlogiston_ |
what linux do you use? |
| 13:28 |
dokma |
tx |
| 13:28 |
dokma |
debian |
| 13:28 |
dokma |
testing |
| 13:28 |
Phlogiston_ |
do /j #debian then |
| 13:28 |
Phlogiston_ |
or try the same for #firefox |
| 13:28 |
dokma |
tx |
| 13:28 |
dokma |
I'm there |
| 13:28 |
dokma |
ok |
| 13:29 |
Phlogiston_ |
good luck |
| 13:46 |
af_ |
cool |
| 14:48 |
olegs |
hello all |
| 14:48 |
Ries |
hey olegs |
| 14:49 |
olegs |
if I install typo3 into a subfolder and later want to move it to website root - what kind of problems should I expect? |
| 14:49 |
olegs |
hi Ries |
| 14:49 |
gerards |
templates? |
| 14:50 |
olegs |
probably |
| 14:50 |
olegs |
no TV at first |
| 14:50 |
gerards |
realURL? depending on how you set it . |
| 14:50 |
gerards |
any apache mod_rewrites? |
| 14:50 |
olegs |
OK - realURL and mod_rewrites can be re-configured |
| 14:51 |
gerards |
if image magick is local to your website, maybe need to change path? |
| 14:51 |
olegs |
anything in database data? |
| 14:51 |
gerards |
possibly. |
| 14:51 |
olegs |
imagemagic is global there... |
| 14:52 |
olegs |
there's 11 yrs old static website that I want to migrate into T3 |
| 14:52 |
gerards |
for database data, a good start is to check the TCA for the upload folders. |
| 14:52 |
olegs |
TCA of all the installed extensions? |
| 14:52 |
gerards |
yes. |
| 14:52 |
gerards |
just go a "find | grep" in the typo3conf/ext directory. |
| 14:53 |
olegs |
I;ll do. I'd expected this kind of setup to be relative to t3 root. |
| 14:54 |
|Affe| |
Hey there |
| 14:54 |
gerards |
olegs it depends on what your document root is in apache. |
| 14:54 |
olegs |
hi |Affe| |
| 14:54 |
olegs |
A! I see. |
| 14:54 |
olegs |
any other ideas? |
| 14:55 |
gerards |
olegs you best case is that the document root already points exactly to the subfolder. |
| 14:55 |
gerards |
if so, you just move it down. then your templates will be intact. |
| 14:55 |
gerards |
and databse (AFAIK) will be stable too. |
| 14:56 |
olegs |
no, the docroot is /Users/<removed>/public_html. I plan first to install t3 in /Users/<removed>/public_html/gallery and when It'll be ready, just move it 1 level up. |
| 14:56 |
gerards |
some extensions also require an absolute file system path. I'm not sure how to check for those except by checking the ts setup for each extension. |
| 14:57 |
|Affe| |
Is anybody here who could modify an extension for me (for a payment of course....) |
| 14:57 |
gerards |
olegs why not install it in /Users/<removed>/publick_html_temp ? |
| 14:58 |
olegs |
because I can't ask it from admin. |
| 14:58 |
gerards |
|Affe|: might be good to ask on monday. |
| 14:59 |
|Affe| |
ok thanks |
| 14:59 |
olegs |
I'd rather play with .htaccess to mask t3 inside the root. |
| 15:00 |
gerards |
|Affe|: I do extension development. please send some info to me. |
| 15:00 |
|Affe| |
query? |
| 15:00 |
gerards |
olegs: becuase if you install it in public_html/gallery, then you'lll HAVE to have your document root point to public_html |
| 15:00 |
olegs |
yes it is |
| 15:00 |
olegs |
is is poiting there |
| 15:01 |
gerards |
that might be hard to move up later (for templates and uploads reasons). |
| 15:01 |
olegs |
I see |
| 15:01 |
gerards |
olegs is it possible to create another virtual name host? |
| 15:01 |
olegs |
that;s what I have to know before we start working. |
| 15:01 |
gerards |
typo3.mydomain.com |
| 15:01 |
gerards |
and points directly to public_html/gallery? |
| 15:02 |
olegs |
gerards: it's not. because of ogranizational reasons |
| 15:02 |
gerards |
i understand fully. |
| 15:02 |
gerards |
is this for demo purposes? |
| 15:02 |
olegs |
can't ask that from sysadmin. not our server, etc.,etc. |
| 15:02 |
olegs |
no |
| 15:02 |
olegs |
not for demo, for work. |
| 15:02 |
gerards |
i see. |
| 15:03 |
gerards |
well then you have no choice but to install it in public_html/gallery |
| 15:03 |
olegs |
gerards: I played with .htaccess |
| 15:03 |
gerards |
how does htaccess help? |
| 15:03 |
gerards |
how does htaccess help in this case? |
| 15:11 |
_Affe_ |
gerards? |
| 15:12 |
gerards |
yes? |
| 15:12 |
_Affe_ |
Would you do that? I mean, modify an extension for me? |
| 15:13 |
gerards |
i need to see details. and i'll quote you. |
| 15:13 |
gerards |
pm? |
| 15:15 |
null0_ |
does someone know a "free" good irc client for windows? It looks like i have to star onto a $MS Os for the next few days :( |
| 15:15 |
gerards |
hahahha! |
| 15:15 |
pulponair41 |
hi there |
| 15:15 |
gerards |
null0_: I'm using miranda. its ok. |
| 15:16 |
null0_ |
s/star/stare/ i meant |
| 15:16 |
gerards |
null0_: to tell the truth, windows OS as workstations aren't horrible. |
| 15:16 |
null0_ |
ah thank you gerards |
| 15:16 |
pulponair41 |
gerards: right |
| 15:16 |
af_ |
cool, all works |
| 15:17 |
pulponair41 |
NickServ RELEASE pulponair ******** |
| 15:17 |
pulponair41 |
fuck |
| 15:17 |
pulponair41 |
:) |
| 15:17 |
af_ |
I am proud of my new typo3 site |
| 15:17 |
gerards |
time to change pssword eh? |
| 15:17 |
pulponair41 |
i gotta change my password |
| 15:17 |
null0_ |
*G!* |
| 15:17 |
null0_ |
.oO( next time Bierglas) |
| 15:17 |
olegs |
gerards: to plant t3 files into existing sites |
| 15:18 |
olegs |
existing files |
| 15:19 |
pulponair41 |
hmm |
| 15:20 |
gerards |
i don't see how .htaccess files can help you much in that. unless you want to write tones of modrewrite statements. |
| 15:20 |
gerards |
s/tones/ton/ |
| 15:20 |
gerards |
s/ton/tons/ |
| 15:20 |
gerards |
;) |
| 15:23 |
af_ |
there is a way to duplicate on another system to do testing? |
| 15:23 |
af_ |
(a typo3 install) |
| 15:24 |
pulponair |
af_:there are several ways |
| 15:24 |
pulponair |
af_: for a small site you could just install a nacked t3 and import via t3d |
| 15:25 |
af_ |
I see |
| 15:25 |
pulponair |
af_:for larger sites i recommend moving the whole docroot over and doing a db dump import |
| 15:25 |
af_ |
yeah, it's small |
| 15:25 |
af_ |
ah that's quick! |
| 15:26 |
pulponair |
af_: perhaps you need to adjust installer settings if the target system uses a different environment (IM etc) |
| 15:26 |
pulponair |
gerards: yeah it is creepy |
| 15:26 |
af_ |
well just the hostname is different |
| 15:27 |
pulponair |
gerards: all those dublication crap |
| 15:27 |
pulponair |
i personally prefere the "copy over" -variant |
| 15:27 |
gerards |
pulponair: yeah me too. |
| 15:27 |
gerards |
pulponair maybe you can help olegs. |
| 15:28 |
gerards |
he needs to install typo3 on a subdirectory of the apache docroot. |
| 15:28 |
gerards |
but he needs to move it to the docroot itself in the future. |
| 15:28 |
pulponair |
gerards: hmmm |
| 15:28 |
gerards |
pulponair: any supercool,easy way to do it? |
| 15:29 |
pulponair |
gerards: i wonder if it is a problem at all |
| 15:29 |
pulponair |
gerads: since all paths a relative ...and templates know about their location |
| 15:29 |
gerards |
just thinking about a db script to change all the subdirect/uploads/my_dog.jpg to uploads/my_dog.jpg gives me headaches. |
| 15:29 |
gerards |
oh is that right? |
| 15:30 |
pulponair |
gerards: they are relative imho |
| 15:30 |
gerards |
ah.... |
| 15:30 |
pulponair |
just uploads/me.jpg |
| 15:30 |
gerards |
even if real url is used? |
| 15:30 |
pulponair |
i would give it a try without any modifications |
| 15:30 |
pulponair |
gerads: real url could become an issue |
| 15:30 |
pulponair |
but i do not know for sure |
| 15:31 |
gerards |
yeah.... because of real url, i always thought images, media were all absolute. |
| 15:31 |
pulponair |
so what is the reason for installing t3 into a subdir? |
| 15:31 |
gerards |
olegs kinda disappeared for a while. |
| 15:32 |
pulponair |
i assume it is for testing purpose or something |
| 15:32 |
pulponair |
if that's the case i would just open a new testing vhost .. |
| 15:32 |
olegs |
yep |
| 15:32 |
olegs |
I was busy with .htaccess |
| 15:32 |
gerards |
olegs. |
| 15:32 |
olegs |
I can put index.php inside old files. |
| 15:32 |
gerards |
its really easy pulponair is right. |
| 15:32 |
muh-die-kuh |
can one of you recommend me a german book about developing t3 exts? |
| 15:33 |
gerards |
all images, js scripts, media are all relative. |
| 15:33 |
gerards |
the reason it works is because there is a base URL somewher ein templates. |
| 15:33 |
olegs |
pulponair: it's an existing server where I dont have access to httpd.conf |
| 15:33 |
gerards |
olegs: so when you move it up, you just change the baseurl in typoscript setup and it should all work. |
| 15:34 |
olegs |
gerards: if this is the case, that's quite good. |
| 15:34 |
olegs |
thank you for help. |
| 15:34 |
gerards |
<em> should</em> |
| 15:34 |
pulponair |
olegs: just give it a try and come back to us if you run into any trouble |
| 15:34 |
olegs |
^) |
| 15:34 |
gerards |
<strong><em>should</em></strong> |
| 15:34 |
Phlogiston_ |
how can I include the search box on everypage? What I am missing is the name of the "plugin" == standard typo3 search box? |
| 15:34 |
gerards |
<h1><strong><em>should</em></strong></h1> |
| 15:35 |
gerards |
Phlogiston_: i had that problem too. |
| 15:35 |
gerards |
in the end i just created my own form on every page. |
| 15:35 |
Phlogiston_ |
lol |
| 15:35 |
gerards |
its pretty easy and works. |
| 15:35 |
Phlogiston_ |
then I would use an extension |
| 15:35 |
gerards |
why? |
| 15:36 |
pulponair |
Phlogiston_: just use your own form ...ts html snippet as gerards suggested ...i use to do it the same way |
| 15:36 |
Phlogiston_ |
I will use macina_searchbox |
| 15:36 |
olegs |
pulponair: thanks. I prefer to measure twice before cutting ... |
| 15:37 |
gerards |
olegs: i personally cut, curse, measure then cut. |
| 15:39 |
pulponair |
gerards: :http://www.typo3-unleashed.net/singleentry/date/2007/04/13/tv-drag-drop.html |
| 15:39 |
pulponair |
:) |
| 15:39 |
gerards |
ahhh is that your site? |
| 15:40 |
gerards |
and is that your post? |
| 15:40 |
pulponair |
gerards: the blog no but the extension |
| 15:40 |
gerards |
sweet. |
| 15:40 |
Phlogiston_ |
hmm i added some new elements to my TV template updted the mappings but it does not change in FE?!? |
| 15:40 |
gerards |
clear cache. |
| 15:43 |
Phlogiston_ |
i did |
| 15:44 |
Phlogiston_ |
my new divs that I added to the template do not even show up in sourcecode |
| 15:46 |
Phlogiston_ |
whats the difference between a Section and a Container in TS? |
| 15:46 |
Phlogiston_ |
*TV |
| 15:47 |
pulponair |
Phlogiston_: sections are of use for repetive elements |
| 15:48 |
Phlogiston_ |
hmm ok |
| 15:48 |
Phlogiston_ |
i still can't change the TV object :( |
| 15:48 |
Phlogiston_ |
the changes are not in the FE |
| 15:50 |
gerards |
Phlogiston_: make sure you saved the new mappings in the same DS/TO |
| 15:51 |
Phlogiston_ |
I have only one :) |
| 15:52 |
Phlogiston_ |
I can create a container inside a container? |
| 15:54 |
Ries |
Phlogiston_: yes you can |
| 15:54 |
Ries |
That's why there are containers :) |
| 15:55 |
Phlogiston_ |
hmm without the container it seems to work |
| 16:00 |
null0_ |
lol |
| 16:54 |
af_ |
uhm, installed mini news |
| 16:55 |
af_ |
tx-mininews-pi1-listrowField-teaser -> why if I define a class no effects? |
| 17:10 |
olegs |
hmm |
| 17:10 |
olegs |
will 8MB memory_limit be enough for install? |
| 17:27 |
gerards |
olegs: i think extmgm needs more than that. |
| 20:17 |
uschi |
can someone please explain something to me? |
| 20:17 |
uschi |
subject is Web->View |
| 20:18 |
uschi |
on a page with tv, i do not know how it behaves in the traditional way |
| 20:19 |
uschi |
if i am on Web->View and click on a page, i get the pencils for editing a content element |
| 20:19 |
uschi |
but: if i click on the pencil, all i am allowed to edit is the header of the respective content elements |
| 20:20 |
uschi |
not the content of the ce itself |
| 20:20 |
Ries |
uschi: Wasn't there a issue with taht with TV?? |
| 20:21 |
Ries |
I never used that function myself, since I find it highly confusing |
| 20:21 |
uschi |
this is what i am asking for, i do not know the answer |
| 20:21 |
Ries |
normalyl it should show a other pencil for the CE |
| 20:22 |
uschi |
yes, and that pencil i can have how or not or whatsoever? |
| 20:23 |
uschi |
i am running into one problem after the other and ... |
| 20:26 |
uschi |
right, Ries, i found it, it is beneath the text |
| 20:26 |
uschi |
usability is ... well, may i call it poor? |
| 20:28 |
uschi |
Ries, is that where the pencil is found if you do not use TV? |
| 20:40 |
Ries |
uschi: I don't use the penceil at all, I just know with TV is also can work |
| 20:40 |
Ries |
But I don't find teh pencial usable at all.. |
| 20:40 |
Ries |
simply with a lot of CE's there are a shit load of pencils on the screen |
| 20:40 |
Ries |
and that confuses me a lot |
| 20:40 |
Ries |
I find it easer to edit the CE's in the BE |
| 20:41 |
uschi |
this is exactly why i did not come accross this problem up to now :) |
| 20:42 |
uschi |
but, imagine you are not Ries, and you are not uschi, then the Web->View mode comes in very handy |
| 20:43 |
uschi |
even for me, if there are lots of CEs FCEs on one page |
| 20:44 |
Ries |
uschi: with all these little pensil icons, I don't know what I am editing anymore |
| 20:44 |
Ries |
usably is inline editing |
| 20:44 |
uschi |
look, the problem is |
| 20:45 |
uschi |
for me, personally, using it right now |
| 20:45 |
uschi |
if i create a CE, i see the header and the content and can edit it at once |
| 20:46 |
uschi |
if i want to edit the very same CE, i have to click different penicils |
| 20:46 |
uschi |
one for the header and one for the content of that fce |
| 20:46 |
uschi |
or ce, better |
| 20:47 |
uschi |
how the hell i am supposed to explain this to my editors????? |
| 20:49 |
uschi |
Ries??? |
| 20:50 |
uschi |
we need to start an initiative on that, in order to get it fixed and logical |
| 20:52 |
Ries |
uschi: what i would suggest is look into google |
| 20:52 |
Ries |
I know tehre has been issues with it, I just cannot remember what issues |
| 20:52 |
Ries |
since I don't use it I never take a look into these thibgs |
| 20:53 |
Ries |
and try to solve it, I write mich more extension then I make typo3 instalaltions (on average 1 in two-3 months) |
| 20:53 |
uschi |
but that is utterly wrong, if you set up a system someone can really work with |
| 20:54 |
uschi |
not you writing extensions |
| 20:54 |
uschi |
i mean :) |
| 20:55 |
Ries |
uschi: Well.. I teach them to use the page module for adding content |
| 20:55 |
uschi |
that is what we will have to do, and i know what teaching means |
| 20:55 |
Ries |
if I go to view I don't even see the little penciels |
| 20:55 |
Ries |
how do I enabled them? |
| 20:56 |
uschi |
good question :) |
| 20:56 |
uschi |
if i find out, i will report to you :) |
| 20:57 |
Ries |
try tm_contentaccess? |
| 20:59 |
uschi |
how will that work together with be_acl? |
| 20:59 |
Ries |
well.. be_acl is not official, so I guess there i no connection |
| 20:59 |
uschi |
as i told you, i am running from question into question |
| 20:59 |
Ries |
we all do... |
| 21:02 |
uschi |
it is a catch 22 situation |
| 21:29 |
pulponair41 |
ding |
| 21:30 |
Ries |
Hey pulponair |
| 21:30 |
pulponair |
hey ries |
| 22:04 |
pulponair |
BORInG! |
| 22:05 |
Ries |
pulponair: think so??? :D |
| 22:06 |
pulponair |
i meant i feel bored |
| 22:08 |
Ries |
pulponair: were is your drinking mate? |
| 22:11 |
pulponair |
Ries: more and more people arround me become bourgeois , get childs and become unflexible ...:| |
| 22:12 |
pulponair |
ries: finding someone to go in for someting spontaneously becomes harder every year ;) |
| 22:16 |
Ries |
pulponair: hahah yes I understand..... I am not sure how old you are |
| 22:16 |
Ries |
but for me I am much less a pub kinda guy then I used to be.... Karina and I will not get any children though |
| 22:18 |
pulponair |
ries: probably because there arent so much pubs in equador ? |
| 22:21 |
Ries |
There are a couple, dutch pub, english pub etc |
| 22:21 |
Ries |
But I am getting to old for that crap |
| 22:26 |
pulponair |
Ries: well i wasnt talkin about pubs in detail....more about all kind of spontaneous free time activities ... |
| 22:28 |
pulponair |
ries: it isnt even possible to phone someone like " hey dude its saturday the sun is shining lets get down to beach have a barbecue and lets play frissbee" |
| 22:29 |
Ries |
that's indeed a shame.... |
| 22:30 |
Ries |
usually I used to do that often |
| 22:30 |
Ries |
But here in the middle of teh big city things like that are not really possible, or I can go to the park where many peopel are |
| 22:30 |
Ries |
so Karina and I go to teh beach once a while.... But that means taking a plane for a 30 minute fligh |
| 22:30 |
Ries |
t |
| 22:31 |
Ries |
leave on friday, and comeback on sunday or monday |
| 22:31 |
pulponair |
ries: yeah its annying i received answers like "oh no today i have to meet my parents and afterwards we have to meet my girlfriends parents for cake and coffee and in the evening we go....and next weekend we are at ...what about in 2 months" ... |
| 22:32 |
pulponair |
ries: and that is not related to my person as you may think ;) |
| 22:32 |
Ries |
I do admit that living together with a GF changes things... |
| 22:32 |
Ries |
hahaha, no it's not the person... I know |
| 22:32 |
pulponair |
ries: yes right ...but not in that way |
| 22:33 |
pulponair |
ries: all that would change in this case is something like "ok beaching sounds cool o gonna as my gf and call you back in a minute" |
| 22:33 |
pulponair |
s/as/ask |
| 22:34 |
pulponair |
well is used to asked the persons "hey what happend to you..." and i got answers like " i am 35 now and i need to plan my life." ...what a crap yes of course life needs to be planned but more in a directional way and not in this way. .. |
| 22:34 |
pulponair |
s/is/i/ |
| 22:35 |
Ries |
yeaaa but it's not always that easy with two persons... |
| 22:35 |
pulponair |
ries: yes right |
| 22:36 |
pulponair |
ries: indeed if you got a child or something ..you are 100% right ...but this also happens with childless people |
| 22:37 |
Ries |
well... if I look at me and karina |
| 22:37 |
pulponair |
ries: beside that beaching is a activity childs can participate to :) |
| 22:37 |
Ries |
we basicly always make plans, we are not going to sit and wait untill sonebody will call us |
| 22:37 |
pulponair |
ries: oh you got me wrong |
| 22:37 |
Ries |
well |
| 22:38 |
Ries |
what I am trying to say is that once we have the paln, we don't change from it |
| 22:39 |
pulponair |
ries: hmmm right depends on the plan ...if it is something like lets book a journey to another town you wont change it of course ...but if its something more loose/less important you are probably more flexible |
| 22:39 |
Ries |
well... even things as simple as shopping is a plan and needs to be done :) |
| 22:40 |
Ries |
But it all depends of the persons ofcourse... |
| 22:40 |
Ries |
When I was living in NL.. I had friends that where married ( I was single) |
| 22:40 |
Ries |
and they always had tiem for some fun... |
| 22:40 |
pulponair |
right but it is not a full day time plan (at least for men) ;) |
| 22:40 |
pulponair |
yes that is what i am talking about |
| 22:40 |
Ries |
other I didn't see anymore... like a other friend... he was not even allowed to leave the house from his wife!!! :) |
| 22:41 |
pulponair |
there is nothing against plans and relations and stuff it is all a question of social integration ;) |
| 22:41 |
Ries |
are you married and licing together? |
| 22:41 |
Ries |
living |
| 22:42 |
pulponair |
sometimes it seems as if some people isolate themself argueing they are getting old and serious |
| 22:42 |
pulponair |
ries: me? |
| 22:42 |
pulponair |
no |
| 22:42 |
pulponair |
but i used to live together with my former girlfriend |
| 22:42 |
pulponair |
on problems |
| 22:42 |
pulponair |
no problem |
| 22:42 |
pulponair |
s |
| 22:43 |
pulponair |
regarding the above named stuff ...of course some things but not that way |
| 22:44 |
pulponair |
ries: anyway i thing we share the same opinion |
| 22:44 |
Ries |
I think so |
| 22:44 |
Ries |
it's just that typo3 doesn't share my opinion right now |
| 22:44 |
Ries |
it doesn't show my damn 6th plugin |
| 22:45 |
pulponair |
pi6? |
| 22:47 |
Ries |
yeaaa |
| 22:47 |
pulponair |
by doenst show you mean at the frontend? |
| 22:49 |
Ries |
yes |
| 22:49 |
Ries |
seems like that I 'forgot' something, my controller doesn't even get called |
| 22:49 |
pulponair |
integrated via type43? |
| 22:50 |
pulponair |
oh controller ....you are using the "elmar"- framework right? |
| 22:51 |
Ries |
I think it's a bug in TV |
| 22:51 |
Ries |
yeaaa lib/div |
| 22:51 |
Ries |
with smarty |
| 22:53 |
pulponair |
ries: i used it a very early stage ....didnt work that good but i am conviced it is way better know |
| 22:54 |
Ries |
crap found it.... it's a 'feature' I missed :) |
| 22:54 |
Ries |
pulponair: I don't like the design much, but it's under active ddevelopment |
| 22:54 |
Ries |
and as long as I ignore the things I don't like... I can work with it |
| 22:55 |
Ries |
I use 95% teh MVC features |
| 22:55 |
Ries |
and all the others I don't use |
| 22:55 |
Ries |
it just give me a heady system to use MVC |
| 22:55 |
pulponair |
ries: to be honest i didnt look close at the current versions but it seemed a little "over academic" to me .. |
| 22:56 |
pulponair |
compared to other mvc frameworks like rails or similar ...b |
| 22:57 |
pulponair |
are there any complex plugins in ter using the "new api"? |
| 22:59 |
Ries |
Not yet |
| 22:59 |
pulponair |
ok |
| 22:59 |
Ries |
it's indeed quite acadamic.... but I think it uses a wrong OO design |
| 23:00 |
Ries |
My plugin consists if 6 plugins |
| 23:00 |
Ries |
which holds a gallery/exhibition system |
| 23:00 |
Ries |
User registration |
| 23:00 |
Ries |
Awards system |
| 23:00 |
Ries |
Press release system |
| 23:00 |
pulponair |
Ries: yes the oo design is strange |
| 23:00 |
Ries |
and a simpel workflow |
| 23:00 |
Ries |
mostly teh plugin should beable to handle big galleries, |
| 23:01 |
Ries |
in the order 100.000 images per gallery |
| 23:01 |
Ries |
it does feature a multi-user, multi-gallery system... |
| 23:01 |
Ries |
each BE user can create and manage there own galleries |
| 23:01 |
pulponair |
sounds good |
| 23:01 |
Ries |
I hope |
| 23:02 |
Ries |
in teh next couple of weeks I am going to start testing the gallery... |
| 23:02 |
Ries |
we have around 400GB of images laying around |
| 23:02 |
pulponair |
to be honest i dont like writing frontend plugins :) |
| 23:02 |
Ries |
all data for teh plugin is stored in postgresql instead of Mysql |
| 23:02 |
pulponair |
though i do it anyway;) |
| 23:02 |
Ries |
I like it actually... |
| 23:02 |
Ries |
better then setting up typo3 intselfd |
| 23:03 |
pulponair |
yes right |
| 23:03 |
Ries |
I do have a design for a CMS aswell.... But I am still working on the DB design |
| 23:03 |
Ries |
Teh core of teh CMS is already working (like bare core.... it says 'hellow world' |
| 23:04 |
pulponair |
hehe |
| 23:04 |
Ries |
But I am working on a DB design that can handle all features typo3 as, but then in a normalised DB design |
| 23:04 |
pulponair |
;) |
| 23:04 |
pulponair |
YEAH fuck the XML and list relation stuff |
| 23:06 |
Ries |
nothing wrong with XML..... |
| 23:07 |
pulponair |
ries: no not in general ...but not for relational stuff like tv uses it |
| 23:07 |
Ries |
it's just how you use and implement it |
| 23:08 |
pulponair |
ries:http://www.chaosbutze.de/stat.png |
| 23:08 |
Ries |
it's a magnitude better then serialised array, something typo3 uses in it's DB which is kinda wrong |
| 23:08 |
pulponair |
ries: yes there is nothin agains xml in general |
| 23:08 |
Ries |
stat? |
| 23:08 |
pulponair |
ries: yes but this could also be done by attribute/attribute value relation |
| 23:08 |
pulponair |
yes |
| 23:08 |
pulponair |
hehe |
| 23:09 |
pulponair |
ries: it is the stat of the blog where i published that tv video |
| 23:13 |
Ries |
Ahhh |
| 23:14 |
Ries |
the stat doesn't say anything without number though... |
| 23:15 |
pulponair |
no not really but it is not that much popular |
