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00:03 klassico I said cause
00:03 klassico Warning: mysql_fetch_assoc(): supplied argument is not a valid MySQL result resource in /var/www/wwc/typo3_src-4.1.1/t3lib/class.t3lib_db.php on line 796
00:04 klassico and after that a TemplaVoila ERROR (missing datastructure)
00:04 klassico not sure if the mysql_error is a cause or symptom of the TV error
00:06 klassico ok, I think the extension (TV) is farked up
04:09 d|g hi all
04:32 just2b_ morning
06:01 dax77 good morning @all
06:01 just2b_ hi dax
06:02 tobi good morning #typo3
06:02 just2b_ great, 2 top guys here: can you help me please? ;)
06:03 just2b_ ready?
06:04 just2b_ I want to include a class in ext_tables.php and I fail
06:04 just2b_ > http://vhcs.at/typo3/index.php
06:04 dax77 why ext_tables.php?
06:04 just2b_ I need to modify TCA
06:04 dax77 cal includes a class in tca.php
06:05 just2b_ all I do in ext_tables.php
06:05 just2b_ require_once(t3lib_extMgm::extPath('tt_address').'class.tx_rggooglemap_table2.php');
06:05 just2b_ $this->genericTableXYZ = t3lib_div::makeInstance('tx_rggooglemap_table2');
06:05 just2b_ and everything crashes
06:05 dax77 maybe because there is no $this?
06:05 just2b_ so without it is working?
06:06 dax77 try it, I'm only guessing
06:06 just2b_ you tried right
06:06 just2b_ uhh guessed right
06:06 just2b_ thx a lot
06:06 dax77 :)
06:06 dax77 np
06:07 just2b_ ;)
06:07 just2b_ lol ;)
06:08 just2b_ so many debts?
06:08 dax77 not only you ;)
06:11 dax77 ah, zat :)
06:12 zat hi dax77,just2b_, and all others typoters
06:14 Jigal hi dax77, just2b_, zat, Fanty
06:14 Fanty mornin
06:14 zat hi Jigal
06:42 bauschan hi @all !
06:54 Fanty in ext_tables.php: $TCA['tt_content']['types']['list']['subtypes_excludelist'][$_EXTKEY.'_pi5']='title'; <-- why doesn't this work?
06:58 zatmania hi bauschan
07:05 dax77 Fanty: maybe the TCA isn't loaded yet for tt_content?
07:06 dax77 t3lib_div::loadTCA('tt_content');
07:10 Fanty dax77: nope, it is
07:17 dax77 Fanty: that was the only thing I could think of. The core api example looks like your statement: $TCA["tt_content"]["types"]["list"]["subtypes_excludelist"][$_EXTKEY."_pi1"]="layout,select_key";
07:17 dax77 maybe its a caching problem?
07:19 Jigal Fanty: I don't think you can modify TCA this way in ext_tables.php; I always use something like: http://phpfi.com/227420
07:20 Jigal Fanty: I looked up the code behind addTCAcolumns() and it performs an array_merge (PHP function), which overwrites non-numerical keys in the array.
07:20 dax77 Jigal: Fanty is doing an additional step :)
07:21 dax77 have a look at the core api "extending the $TCA array" example line 24
07:21 Jigal dax77: what extra step??
07:22 dax77 he is not adding fields, but removing them
07:23 Jigal dax77: the code I see here is *overwriting* existing values, which is exactly what addTCAcolumns() will do
07:23 Phlog anyone knows a documentation describing how to use an RTE in an extension?
07:25 dax77 Phlog: that depends on the rte extension
07:25 Phlog dax77: hmm i see that html area has a good docu for that
07:25 Phlog I will try it now :)
07:26 smda yo!
07:28 dax77 hi smda
07:28 smda hi dax77
07:40 mcfloppy hello
07:40 mcfloppy can gifbuilder report errors in the typoscript?
07:41 just2b_ no
07:41 mcfloppy how can i find the mistake?
07:42 mcfloppy i can generate a picture in different colors and with different textes... but i can not import a jpg or png picture to write on it
07:42 just2b_ so maybe a typo?
07:42 mcfloppy what do you mean?
07:42 mcfloppy TOP.file {
07:42 mcfloppy XY = 1002, 206
07:42 mcfloppy 10 = IMAGE
07:42 mcfloppy 10.file = fileadmin/trexxstyle/design/header.jpg
07:42 mcfloppy }
07:43 mcfloppy this is the relevant part in the typoscript... a backColor entry effects a other color of the spacer... but the image is not displayed
07:43 mcfloppy the path is available
08:04 Guschtel hi, can someone tell me how to set the col widths in a table element?
08:16 Jigal mcfloppy: I'm no expert of TypoScript, but you did define TOP = IMAGE and TOP.file = GIFBUILDER , didn't you?
08:17 mcfloppy yes i have
08:20 Jigal mcfloppy: filename and path are correct with upper- and lowercase?
08:20 Phlog I can't see the field description when I edit the user, altough that sex thing works, whats wrong with the code here: http://pastebin.ca/444234
08:20 mcfloppy Jigal, yes ;)
08:20 Jigal well, there are a lot of *.JPG files out there ;-)
08:21 mcfloppy i am a linux-friend, so this is the first i check ;)
08:21 mcfloppy http://trexx.rsp-design.de/fileadmin/trexxstyle/design/header.jpg
08:21 mcfloppy this is the image....
08:21 mcfloppy 10.file = fileadmin/trexxstyle/design/header.jpg and this the typoscript internal call
08:22 Jigal mcfloppy: and the tests in Install for building images succeeded in this installation?
08:23 Phlog can anyone help me? cause i'm going crazy .(
08:23 mcfloppy Jigal, moment
08:24 mcfloppy There was no result from the ImageMagick operation
08:24 mcfloppy hmmm okay ;)
08:27 Jigal Phlog: in your $tempColumns array you have "describtion" and in the calls later "description"...
08:28 Phlog omg thanks so much Jigal
08:28 Phlog damn typos :)
08:29 Guschtel Can someone tell me how to set the table col width in a regular typo3 table element?
08:29 mcfloppy thankyou Jigal
08:29 mcfloppy i gona reconfigure ;)
08:29 mcfloppy so that it will work
08:30 Jigal mcfloppy: a working IM version will probably help ;-)
08:30 dax77 :)
08:31 dax77 Jigal: thats the normal helpdesk situation ;)
08:31 Jigal brb
08:33 Phlog anyone can help me with positioning new elements in the TCA? I dont' get it from the docu
08:34 just2b_ OT: I search for a word like Bewertung or Qualität but shorter (~5 letters)
08:35 Phlog just2b_: in german?
08:35 just2b_ yes
08:35 Phlog just2b_: wert?
08:36 Phlog rank?
08:36 Phlog dunno
08:36 just2b_ no, i stick know with "güte"
08:36 just2b_ rank is to much english ;)
08:36 Phlog güte yes
08:36 just2b_ > http://p28123.typo3server.info/uebersicht.html
08:39 FloLeBlanc hi all
08:39 just2b_ hi flo
08:42 just2b_ oh come on ;)
08:43 bauschan bauschan is so dumb this morning
08:43 bauschan http://phpfi.com/227426
08:43 bauschan just2b_: ok, me _:)
08:44 just2b_ thx ;) http://p28123.typo3server.info/
08:44 just2b_ not many pages ;)
08:44 Phlog anyone can help me activating rich text editor in TCA?
08:44 bauschan just2b_: is it you on the rock ?
08:44 just2b_ no;)
08:44 Jigal dax77: this is not normal helpdesk ;-P
08:46 Jigal Phlog: you need a field with a RTE in the backend forms?
08:48 bauschan just2b_: congrats, looks fine here FF 2.0.0.3/Safari
08:48 Jigal Phlog: this works for me: http://phpfi.com/227427
08:48 bauschan just2b_: nice page, well done
08:49 just2b_ thx, you can login with 1/1 if you want to add an own POI ;)
08:49 Jigal Can someone help Guschtel with setting column widths in a typo3 table element?
08:50 just2b_ Jigal: if I would know... I never work with tables ;)
08:50 bauschan just2b_: oki, I'll try that later on
08:51 m4rtijn helo
08:52 Jigal just2b_: transparent png's don't work correctly in IE6 :-(
08:53 m4rtijn last time I had some problems with deinstalling some software.. smbdy here recomended a very good cleaner tool.. does anyone know this?
08:53 just2b_ Jigal yes, i guess I will change them into gifs
08:54 Jigal just2b_: http://p28123.typo3server.info/uebersicht.html IE6: alternating row background colours not visible; left upper corner triangle not visible in cells
08:55 Jigal just2b_: red line below menu items on mouseover does not workin in IE6
08:55 just2b_ Jigal: alternative rows work here in ie6, border-bottom is correct
08:56 Phlogiston_ ok will try that
08:57 Phlogiston_ yeah it works, thanks a lot... could anyone help me position my description field in the fe_users TCA? I'd like to have it after comments field.t3lib_extMgm::addToAllTCAtypes("fe_users","description;;1-1-1,tx_cwtcommunityuser_sex");
08:57 Jigal just2b_: Version 6.0.2900.2180.xpsp_sp2_gdr.070227-2254
09:13 bauschan any ideas on http://phpfi.com/227426
09:15 Jigal bauschan: parsed is Javascript, right?
09:16 bauschan yup, the html output
09:17 bauschan it should just copy the value from one input field to another
09:17 bauschan onClick ;)
09:19 Jigal bauschan: in that case this points to submit button, this.form points to the current html form, so what is the name of the form field you want to copy?
09:20 bauschan SET[q1_answer2]
09:21 bauschan no, sorry SET[q1_answer1] holds the value
09:22 Jigal bauschan: SET[xxx] is a bit of an odd name for a field, isn't it?
09:23 bauschan yup, but is t3 BE style
09:23 Jigal bauschan: you can use this.form.<fieldname>.value or this.form.elements('<fieldname>').value to retrieve the value
09:27 bauschan Jigal: it gives me *q1_answer1 is not defined*
09:28 Jigal bauschan: both constructs?
09:28 spL` Hi @ do anybody know if it´s possible to hide the info boxes (div´s) at the fe-preview of templavoila elements?
09:28 bauschan Jigal: just a sec I have to clear cache on eAccelerator
09:29 Fanty Jigal, dax77: sorry, was called away to a horrible design meeting.. and yes dax77 - I based my first line on that example from the core api - and Jigal when should the addTCAcolumns() call occour?
09:29 bauschan Jigal: both constructs same error
09:30 Jigal bauschan: can I see the html form anywhere?
09:33 bauschan Jigal: sorry phone
09:33 bauschan Jigal: http://phpfi.com/227434
09:34 Jigal bauschan: sorry, had to put a news item online ;-)
09:37 tobi bauschan: i dont think that onsubmit works on a element ... only on the form itsefl afaik
09:37 Jigal onsubmit only works on form
09:39 Jigal bauschan: I can only see a mix of the two constructs (which is not going to work)
09:39 tobi so it is clear that this thing cant work..
09:39 Jigal bauschan: you used : this.form.elements.SET[q1_answer1].value :-( this.form.elements is an array of the form elements, so use:
09:40 Jigal this.form.elements['SET[q1_answer1]'].value
09:42 bauschan Jigal: bingo
09:42 bauschan Jigal, tobi thanks a lot
09:43 Jigal bauschan: don't rely on an onclick only on the submit-button if you have other fields than textareas the <enter> key may submit the form without activating the submit button!
09:44 Denyerec HWOOO!
09:44 Denyerec For those who knew or cared, my GF now had permanent UK residency
09:44 eeos hi everybody
09:44 Denyerec *has
09:45 Denyerec Just came through this morning
09:45 Jigal congrats! Denyerec
09:45 uschi morning :)
09:45 uschi Denyerec, what is a GF?
09:46 eeos Denyerec that is great news!
09:46 eeos uschi good morning
09:46 uschi morning eeos
09:46 Jigal uschi: Girl Friend ;-)
09:46 dax77 hi uschi + everyone joined the last 3 hours .)
09:46 eeos uscchi GirlFriend
09:46 eeos uschi GirlFriend
09:46 uschi aaah, congratulations Denyerec, to you and your girlfriend, then
09:47 eeos dax77 Jigal good morning
09:47 dax77 Denyerec: congratulations
09:47 uschi morning dax77
09:47 dax77 uschi: how was the party?
09:48 Denyerec So damn relieved
09:48 uschi nice, but i had to much to drink :)
09:48 dax77 hehe
09:48 uschi can understand you, Denyerec, and i am happy for you :))
09:48 uschi where is she from, Denyerec ?
09:49 Denyerec Australie
09:49 dax77 well isn't that still a british colony?
09:49 Jigal Denyerec: is it so hard to move from Australia to the UK? Same queen isn't it?
09:49 Denyerec Jigal you would not believe :(
09:50 Denyerec We thought that, but she may as well have been ex KGB for all the trouble they caused
09:50 dax77 wow
09:50 eeos Denyerec so you are ready to move somewhere else :D
09:50 Denyerec Yep!
09:50 Denyerec :D
09:51 Denyerec Though, it's leave to remain in the UK I don't think it's the same thing as a European passport.
09:51 eeos dax77 UK system could be pretty annoying if you are from somewhere else, believe me :(
09:51 eeos Denyerec could tell you
09:51 Denyerec So I don't think we can settle in Europe
09:51 eeos Denyerec I think so. I also think you would have the same problem in some other European countries
09:52 Jigal Denyerec: I believe you; all those folks who want to move to a "richer" country and use fake marriages, falsified papers, etc. make it harder to mover around the world...
09:52 uschi Denyerec, a friend of mine had the same problem
09:52 eeos sorry, Denyerec I think so. I also *DO NOT* think you would have the same problem in some other European countries
09:52 uschi in the end they had to marry, no way out
09:52 uschi they would eeos, they would
09:52 uschi at least in germany that is
09:53 eeos uschi is it bad in Germany?
09:53 uschi i collected a lot of experience here with my foreign colleagues
09:53 Denyerec we have been together for 7 years
09:53 Denyerec I don't know at what point people consider you married under common law
09:53 eeos uschi a friend of mine she is Japanese, but when she had the pemit for UK then she could automatically go everywhere else in Europe. At least, I think so.
09:53 Jigal Denyerec: I think she has to become a UK citizen first before you can move to other EU countries without a lot of problems...
09:54 Denyerec Yeah Jig
09:54 Denyerec and I think she'd rather remain Australian ;)
09:54 Denyerec At least travelling to Europe will be a little easier now.
09:54 eeos Denyerec well, theroreticcaly, the important thing should be when *YOU* consider yourself to be on a very long term relationship
09:54 Jigal Denyerec: okay, no worries mate! :-P
09:54 Denyerec ;)
09:55 eeos Jigal Denyerec a friend of mine she is Japanese, but when she had the pemit for UK then she could automatically go everywhere else in Europe. At least, I understood so.
09:55 uschi so she does not live on the british isles?
09:56 Denyerec Yeah
09:56 Denyerec She does
09:56 eeos we were actually thinking of moving to the continent somewhere
09:56 eeos (me wife and myself)
09:57 eeos but now York uni offered me a paid PhD, do not know what to do really :)
09:57 uschi those burocrates can make life a hell for you
09:57 Jigal eoos: moving to the continent is so not-British ;-P
09:58 eeos Jigal: if you had read the last UNICEF report on children conditions, you would probably move to the continent as well. :D
09:58 eeos (Jigal are you british?)
09:58 Jigal eeos: ROFL, I already live on "the continent" (the Netherlands)
09:59 eeos many of our friends are actually moving, most of them to France and Italy
09:59 dax77 Jigal: you mean the coast ;)
09:59 eeos Jigal ah! the UNICEF repost put NETHERLAND on top
09:59 uschi more sun and summer there *g*
09:59 eeos Jigal ah! the UNICEF *report* put NETHERLAND on top
09:59 Jigal eeos: well, the food is a lot better in France and Italy ;-)
10:00 Jigal eeos: on top is better in this report?
10:00 eeos Jigal of course, or I would have teased you to death
10:01 eeos Jigal it was ahead of everybody by MILES
10:07 eeos just2b_ could you please point me to the extension you recently developed for tt_news? I cannot find it.
10:11 Benny HuHu
10:12 Jigal oh boy, Benny the Train is coming! LOL
10:14 just2b_ eeos, rgnewslinks
10:15 Denyerec to add google analytics, I may as well add their javascript in my headerdata rather than use an extension, correct
10:15 Denyerec ?
10:15 eeos just2b_ thanks!
10:16 eeos do not know we use awstats
10:41 dax77 re
10:42 tobi adding the javascript is enought Denyerec
10:42 eeos re
10:46 eeos what is this eeblog extension? there extension to the extnsion, bit I do not seem to find the extension itself.
10:47 eeos what is this eeblog extension? there *are* extensions to the extension, bit I do not seem to find the extension itself.
10:54 eeos I search with search engines, but cannot find ee_blog. any clue?
10:59 tobi hm ee_blog seems to have disapeared ...
11:00 eeos tobi ee_blog has disappeared for quite a while :(
11:00 Jigal woooosh! there it was! ... oh no, gone again... ;-P
11:00 eeos tobi I cannot find the extension and I cannot find information about it
11:01 eeos Jigal ?
11:02 Jigal http://webempoweredchurch.com/support/community/forum/single_thread/ministry-tools/discussion-forum-extension-1/showing-links-in-board/
11:02 Jigal "Well, I just heard from another person on the WEC team that eeblog is discontinued. "
11:03 eeos Jigal are you sure? :(
11:03 Jigal eeos: no, but that is what the page says
11:04 eeos Jigal does ee stand for expression engine?
11:04 Jigal eeos: you of all people should know where 'ee' stands for! ;-P
11:05 Jigal eeos: (I just used Google search results)
11:06 eeos Jigal sorry I used ask.co.uk instead of google, but did not fid anything. why should I know?
11:06 eeos ach! I got it now!
11:12 just2b_ re
11:14 eeos Jigal I have been searching for ee_blog, eeblog, tx_eeblog but did not find any bit of information that made any sense
11:16 Jigal eeos: I used msdewey.com :-)
11:18 dax77 lol
11:18 dax77 what did you ask her?
11:18 eeos Jigal what is it? today I am on slow conection and the this thing is taking ages to load
11:19 tobi eeos, there is the official docu page http://www.erasmix.net/index.php?id=showmehow but nothing more
11:19 eeos tobi thanks
11:19 Jigal eeos: it's a flash shell around MS Live Search which features the lovely Ms. Dewey who reminds you that you haven't typed anything for a while, comments on search keywords, brags about herself, etc.
11:19 eeos dax77 nothig I just see a blank page
11:20 dax77 Jigal: I asked her "what does ee stand for"
11:21 dax77 and the answer was quite impressive
11:22 eeos tobi thanks, got it
11:24 Jigal dax77: the remark you hear changes often between searches...
11:24 tobi eeos: you could try to contact the guy that wrote the ext. his email is on the bottom of that page
11:24 dax77 Jigal: ah ok
11:25 Jigal brb
11:28 eeos tobi yes I could
11:28 eeos tobi first I want to read a bit of documentation about it
11:29 eeos tobi do you have any idea about what is the most complete blogging solution for typo3?
11:30 tobi i think timtab is the most complete solution eeos
11:31 tobi timtab is quite often used and also has a active developer
11:32 eeos I tried it on, but the solution is a bit awkward, what with the idea of the guest book and the rest
11:33 eeos I mean it is clever, but it is a bit cumbersome tobi
11:33 tobi eeos: if you need "only" a blog i would use wordpress ... its has a painless instalation and works good, also has support for all the bloogger programs etc
11:33 eeos tobi: we wanted to tra to setup an online magazine, part of alrger portal, using typo3
11:34 esokoll does anybody know what autodiscover.xml is?
11:36 eeos have you ever used b2evolution tobi
11:36 tobi no i didnt eeos
11:36 tobi i have 2 or 3 wordpress instalations running ..
11:37 tobi esokoll: thats something from ms exchange webserver for sharing configurations afaik
11:37 eeos allows multiuser, multicategories, front end editing with RTE?
11:38 tobi uhm no multiuser afaik
11:38 eeos tobi: :(
11:39 eeos tobi: not good if you have a community of editors. that is the strength of typo3
11:39 eeos tobi: if typo3 api were a bit simpler and elegant, it would be easy to integrate other solutions
11:40 esokoll @tobi: thanx :) ...you are right.
11:40 eeos tobi: I find the api a bit .... distressing :D
11:40 koomi aloha
11:40 tobi yes, same here eeos .. but i also have to admit that im not much into extension coding
11:41 Jigal guys, I'd like to call the api challenging ;-P
11:41 koomi i've got some fce which create different navigations (content elements, subpages, pages on same level, etc) - what would be the best way to copy the tmenu defintions? i don't want to update 6 menus when i want to change something ..
11:41 eeos tobi: I was more thiking about integration than extension coding here really
11:42 zatmania re
11:42 eeos Jigal: I think it is the right word ....
11:42 dax77 koomi: create a reference of it
11:43 eeos tobi: as in integrating other applications into it using an abstraction layer
11:43 koomi dax77: so i'd create a temp.dummyElement or reference from my main nav
11:43 eeos have to go! food is calling!
11:43 koomi dax77: just wondering what would be the best way to do it
11:43 Jigal eeos: kill it before you eat it!
11:44 eeos Jigal I will!
11:44 dax77 Jigal: *g*
11:44 dax77 koomi: do you have a TS object or a flexible-content-object?
11:44 tobi koomi: you could also use constants for the wraps
11:46 koomi tobi: jep. but the definition is always the same.
11:46 koomi dax77: ts object that is used by a fce
11:46 koomi i put it in temp.navDummy and simply copy that element
11:49 dax77 k
12:03 Layna Hello everbody. Anyone awake, or just of people with their windows open but bein AFK?
12:04 zatmania hi Layna
12:04 esokoll moin moin
12:05 Layna esokoll: Norther german? Me too :) But seriously, 'I am here because of a problem
12:05 esokoll more southern Germany ;)
12:06 Layna I had a quiet nice webpage-Layou (DIV's and lots of CSS) wich includes a DIV that started scrolling when the content got too large
12:06 zatmania Layna : see the topic about ask ;)
12:06 max_muetze hello, i am searching some time for a documentation about usergroups and their inheritation... do you know where i can find some stuff about this?
12:07 Layna It still does that in Firefox after I added content via Typo3... it does NOT scroll in Internet explorer anymore
12:07 Layna Did anybody ever encounter this? Everythign works great BEFORE Typo3 adds content... even the scrolling..
12:08 esokoll @Layna: not anymore? Did you check selfhtml?
12:09 esokoll @Layna: open the source of your page ---> content should be wrapped in a "p" tag
12:09 Layna Yes, it is. and aroudn all those p's is my div
12:10 Layna dies the p-tag destroy the overflow:auto part of my CSS???
12:10 esokoll maybe
12:11 Layna is there any way I can tell Typo to please top putting p's everywhere? Because this is really one of the things that woudl actually make sense... or as much sense as any CSS-interpretation in IE makes
12:11 max_muetze i like to have one group "siteadmins" who can view all items/elements on the page and other groups for whom i can hide some elements... can you give me a short hint for the way? i think i'll get the rest...
12:12 Layna max: do you have backend-users yet? That's where I stumbled
12:12 max_muetze yes, i have
12:13 Fanty mm.. I have a HMENU with a special=browse -- how do I make an up go up TWO levels instead of one?
12:13 esokoll @max: "all items" simply check the admin box in BE_user
12:15 Fanty answer: "index" goes up two levels :) .. tought it went to the root
12:17 max_muetze hm, i have a frontend user whoms profile is related to his backend user. but he cannot see (in the frontend) the elements where only the special group has access to see. i don't know if i must give the "admins" group access too.. actually the other groups are "subgroups" of the admins so i thougt the admins have also the same rights (and more) then their subgroups...
12:17 Layna Hmmmm I found somethign about my p's. lib.parseFunc_RTE.nonTypoTagStdWrap.encapsLines.nonWrappedTag . Does this make any sense to you? and if yes: where do I put it?
12:19 voidus Layna: yes, in TS
12:21 Layna And where do I set this? I was told on friday that I should please have a look into Typo3.... I still feel lost a lot.
12:21 max_muetze i try to ask a little more simple: does a group inherit her rights to its subgroup or otherwise?
12:22 Denyerec anyone here any good with djbdns?
12:22 max_muetze or does this not care
12:23 esokoll @Denyerec: http://cr.yp.to/djbdns.html
12:24 Denyerec Yah that's the one
12:25 Layna *scanning other soruces for p-problems as well* Possibly stpid question, but: wher eis the typoscropt object browser? That's there this mystical lib.parseFunc_RTE.nonTypoTagStdWrap.encapsLines.nonWrappedTag is supposed to be hiding...
12:29 esokoll @Layna: Web/Template --> dropdown upper right corner
12:32 Layna THERE we go. Thank you, I hope Internet Explorer will cooperate now. Bye for now.
12:39 jay_tilllery hello
12:39 jay_tilllery I need some help in typo3
12:39 jay_tilllery is there anyone who can help?
12:41 m4rtijn depends on your question
12:41 koomi zwarte: let's figure that out together: you're in a typo3 channel on irc
12:41 koomi with .. let me count
12:41 koomi 67 users
12:41 m4rtijn :p
12:41 koomi so i guess we could confidently answer that with a straigt: maybe
12:41 zwarte hey
12:41 zwarte maybe people don't want to help
12:41 zwarte thanks
12:41 zwarte okay
12:41 koomi zwarte: :)
12:42 m4rtijn hehe
12:42 Denyerec If we didn't wanna help, we'd be in #php
12:42 Denyerec .... :)
12:42 zwarte haaaa
12:42 koomi nope Denyerec: #debain
12:42 zwarte okay
12:42 Denyerec Hah koomi, dead right
12:42 Denyerec :)
12:42 tobi #php wins the battle
12:42 koomi tobi: you never had mysterious linux problems :)
12:43 Denyerec Never before or since have I visited such a hive of scum and villainy... </obi wan>
12:43 tobi no, i dont use linux koomi, i prefer *bsd ;)
12:43 zwarte i am interested in having two different menus on my typo3 template
12:43 Denyerec zwarte - sounds easy enough given that description
12:43 koomi tobi: lucky you ... or .. well. let's just hope the irc support is good
12:43 Ries morning folks
12:43 zwarte but
12:43 Denyerec But if you're about to say you awnt them in 2 languages simultaneously...
12:43 Denyerec Ries - I think Mark wants you
12:43 zwarte no
12:43 zwarte haa
12:43 tobi hm never needet the irc support so i dont know
12:43 Denyerec In fact I know he does.
12:43 zwarte both in english
12:44 koomi tobi: you l33t h3x0r you!
12:44 koomi ^^
12:44 tobi :P
12:44 tobi was into network security before doint typo3
12:44 Denyerec 2 english menu's should be easy enough. Care to describe exactly how you want it to behave?
12:44 zwarte i have tried to do it with not so much luck
12:44 zwarte basically
12:45 zwarte i want one side to be the main menu on the other side to be an archived section
12:45 tobi zwarte: i think one is your mainmenu, and one is a "special" menu .. the main menu you make as usual, for the special menu set yourHmenu.special=directory and yourHmenu.special.value=pidWherMenuStarts
12:45 m4rtijn hmm, I think what u need is menu special directory.. yes
12:46 zwarte right
12:47 zwarte can I show you my root tree and maybe you guys can help me write something?
12:49 juergen__ good morning Ries. yes i was zeroing :)
12:49 koomi funny. any ideas why the second menu is not clickable? http://www.wiso.uni-hamburg.de/?id=1857
12:52 zwarte http://www.netondas.com/menu.jpg
12:52 zwarte Here is my menu
12:52 tobi koomi: seems to be a firefox problem, in ie and opera you can click it
12:53 zwarte the items below the past articles will go on te right
12:53 zwarte and the items like home | fetaures will go on the main menu
12:53 zwarte features
12:56 m4rtijn I should have some code where I done the same..
12:56 m4rtijn zwarte..
12:56 zwarte yes
12:56 zwarte http://phpfi.com/227467
12:56 Layna Short description of problem: I have a div that is supposed to scroll.... it does anywhere EXCEPT when the page is called from the Typo3 in Internet explorer
12:56 zwarte thats my TS
12:58 Layna The div scrolls before the template is in Typo3. The div scrolls when I call the typo3 site in Firefox. The div scrolls when I call the Typo3-site in Internet Explorer and save it on my disk and call itthen... it does NOT scroll in IE directly from Typo3..... this makes NO SENSE
12:59 m4rtijn hmm, just look in TSref zwarte.. its fairly easy to set the HMENU special to directory
13:01 zwarte right
13:01 zwarte i don't understand why I am settig special to directory though
13:01 m4rtijn actually, tobi wrote postet it as it should be
13:01 zwarte is that better than using entrylevel?
13:02 m4rtijn yes I think it is
13:02 Fanty Layna: you should take a look at config.doctypeSwitch = 1 and config.doctype = xhtml_trans
13:02 zwarte also
13:02 zwarte teh menu is dynamic
13:02 zwarte the menu
13:02 m4rtijn when I used entry level I had some unwanted things hapening, whereas directory is quite straightforward
13:04 Fanty is there anyway to switch the icons used for pages in the page tree in the backend?
13:04 zwarte okay
13:04 zwarte i'll try that
13:06 Jigal Fanty: TYPO3 is fully skinable, so one should be able to change icon images too...
13:07 Fanty Jigal: not all of them.. I have an extension that categories pages into "system/modules/submodules" and an icon for each page type would help the content people out a lot
13:10 Guschtel Is there a way to omit the style="width: 33px;" in the output of a text with image element? see http://rafb.net/p/peK4kz34.html
13:13 Denyerec How do you people generate google sitemaps ?
13:14 tobi Guschtel no, it is calculated by css_styled_imgtext .. if you need more there is a trick: set the border constant
13:15 Guschtel hm
13:16 Guschtel no way to turn it off?
13:16 tobi you can totaly disable it and do everything your own, but thats a lot of work.
13:16 Guschtel my problem is, that the image has a caption and i want the image to be in the middle of this caption
13:17 Guschtel i.e. the image is smaller than the caption
13:17 Guschtel so with this width="imagewidth" the caption is thicker than this
13:17 Guschtel which means i can't put a border around it
13:18 Ries Hey Denyerec I am talking to Mark right now...
13:18 Denyerec cool
13:20 Guschtel tobi, Alternatively - is there a way to specify the alt&title-tag for the image and link i set?
13:22 tobi alt tag yes .. you can insert one in the backend, i dont know if that one is used for title to
13:23 Guschtel i think i found an extension which does this
13:27 max_muetze hey again... is it possible (maybe there is an extension) to make a file accessible without a directlink to the filesystem? i would like to store the path maybe encrypted or the file directly in the database?
13:28 max_muetze i only want authenticated frontend users having access to these files and don't want that they can share the path to the file or at least a little more secure...
13:32 max_muetze aren't there any suggestions?
13:33 voidus max_muetze: search ter for "secure+downloads"
13:33 voidus there are 3 or 4 extensions for that
13:34 voidus for example, naw_securedl
13:37 H4T3R hi all
13:37 H4T3R can anyone here read german
13:42 max_muetze voidus: thanks a lot
13:42 _exe hello
13:44 _exe did anybody realise a community based on typo3?
14:05 Phlogiston_ I'm just wondering where I can set the behaviour of the title in the Browser. I mean i would like to have something like: Mysite: CurrentPage , where is the config for that?
14:05 sardello hello
14:05 Phlogiston_ hi
14:06 sardello i?m learning typo3 with a Video-Training
14:06 avagraphique if anyone is running ie 6 and can check a page, my dropdown is doing something relly weird, but only in ie 6..... ???
14:06 avagraphique http://67.15.245.15/~collinsf/
14:06 Phlogiston_ how did you do that dropdown?
14:07 avagraphique in typoscript, 1 sec
14:07 sardello :-)
14:08 sardello i have a little question... why is my site not quick? www.wiimote.de
14:08 avagraphique http://phpfi.com/227481
14:08 sardello the typo3-cache is in use
14:09 sardello but the picture in the head reloaded by every click
14:10 sardello i have installed the extension dr_blob, is it because that?
14:12 avagraphique in my css for the page i have
14:12 avagraphique #menu_2 div{
14:12 avagraphique display:inline;
14:12 avagraphique top:197px;
14:12 avagraphique }
14:13 avagraphique but ie seems to be ignoring the display:inline
14:14 avagraphique Phlogiston_ any thoughts?
14:14 sardello this is my head-configuration
14:14 sardello http://phpfi.com/227482
14:16 Phlogiston_ avagraphique: I'm having the same problem with another menu... IE just succks... search for IE bug and a solution
14:21 j0hndeere Good morning, humans.
14:22 sardello morning
14:22 avagraphique Phlogiston_ i think i fixed it
14:22 avagraphique i added this to my css
14:22 avagraphique for the ccc for the divs in the menu i added
14:23 avagraphique margin:0px;
14:23 avagraphique padding:0px;
14:23 avagraphique width:1px;
14:23 Phlogiston_ hmm ok... I need to try that...
14:23 avagraphique AND in the typoscript i added
14:23 avagraphique page.config.doctypeSwitch = 1
14:24 avagraphique to try and get the page to be xhtml transitional in ie... something abou tneeding that lne to make sure ie isnt running in quirks mode
14:24 avagraphique (I think we're all in trouble when a browser can run in "Quirks mode")
14:25 eeos back
14:25 Tom4535645 hallo
14:26 Tom4535645 i have a problem with typo3
14:27 Tom4535645 i have a hidden site, and whenever i create any page the hidden site will be displayed
14:27 Tom4535645 did anyone know something about this bug?
14:27 Ries a hidden site???
14:27 Ries or a hidden page?
14:27 Tom4535645 a whole menu point
14:27 Tom4535645 but the site in the menu point are not hidden, could it be that?
14:29 Tom4535645 no i have testet now
14:30 Tom4535645 it must be a bug
14:33 null_0 .oO( clear browsercache )
14:33 Phlogiston_ I'm just wondering where I can set the behaviour of the title in the Browser. I mean i would like to have something like: Mysite: CurrentPage , where is the config for that?
14:33 Phlogiston_ solution to that was setting site description in root template :)
14:35 Tom4535645 thanks but no, thats not a browsercache problem
14:37 null_0 Phlogiston_: http://typo3.org/extensions/repository/view/mf_pagetitle/1.0.0/info/pagetitle.php/
14:42 nick108 Hi there, I need to raise the filesize limit for a tt_content:pi_flexform element
14:42 nick108 I know how it works for images and stuff, but how to achieve this for pi_flexform?
14:43 m4rtijn Phlogiston_ could you post the code for your page title?
14:43 m4rtijn I want the same :p
14:43 nick108 Do I simply expand on $TCA['tt_content']['columns']['pi_flexform']['config'] = ''; ?
14:43 Phlogiston_ I don't have any special code... how do you know my code? :-p
14:45 m4rtijn ah, you just set a site description.. I though you done some TS
14:45 m4rtijn my fault
14:48 nick108 $TCA['tt_content']['columns']['pi_flexform']['config']['max_size'] = 10000; does not work :-(
14:49 nick108 any ideas?
14:50 m4rtijn any recommendations on picture gallery extensions? I need one :p
14:51 nick108 m4rtijn: I like this JavaScript thingy that dimms the screen when showing the popup image, but cannot remember the name of the extension
14:53 koomi gnar. tt_news won't save my category selection in the tt_news ce
14:53 koomi and it's 2.5.0
14:57 koomi http://bugs.typo3.org/view.php?id=5103
15:03 Phlogiston_ nick108: image light box
15:03 Phlogiston_ m4rtijn: imagelightbox
15:07 Denyerec how do I get a page to stop being visible after a certain date?
15:07 Denyerec the start / stop fields don#'t seem to do anything ?
15:12 m4rtijn thx a lot
15:13 fred^ say i wanted to redirect domain.com to domain2.com/nice-url/ with .htaccess. how could i do that?
15:13 fred^ domain.com is an alias on domain2.com so i dont want to redirect /
15:24 Remowylliams Hello everyone, A funny thing happened to me on the way to adding a be_user. I created a backend user group, I created a backend user, I made sure the backend user was part of that group. But when I login as that user, no pages are listed for the site. Praytell what have I done wrong?
15:25 koomi Remowylliams: you didnt give permissions to view/modify the tables
15:26 Remowylliams koomi: under tables, Page, pagecontent and internal note are selected.
15:26 koomi Remowylliams: then check the permissions for the pages with web -> access
15:27 Remowylliams Ok.. umm
15:30 Remowylliams koomi: thank you. I'll try to remember that in the future.
15:33 Remowylliams I can definitely tell my boss that there is no learning curve for practical purposes with Typo3 it's kind of like..... a cliff really. :P
15:35 avagraphique i am trying to place tipafriend into my template via typoscript
15:35 avagraphique http://phpfi.com/227491
15:35 avagraphique but i cant get any output into my page
15:36 avagraphique it just replaces the subpart wth blank.... any suggestions? the code for the tipafriend setup was found here http://www.typo3journal.com/Users//tipafriend-typo3.html
15:38 avagraphique oh, and tipafriend extension maual is corrupt so that no help... lol
15:53 j0hndeere Just like human governments!
15:55 Ries j0hndeere: what about extraterestrial goverments...
16:05 j0hndeere Ries: They vary.
16:06 j0hndeere But most of the advanced ones do not feature this slavery-by-taxation principle that is prominent in human governments.
16:07 j0hndeere They've moved on to simple overt slavery where they think it's necessary.
16:08 Ries j0hndeere: are you saying they use the panama method?
16:08 j0hndeere What's odd about earth is how MANY governments you have.
16:09 Ries j0hndeere: having many is a good thing to maintain a balance
16:09 j0hndeere Having few is a good thing to maintain a minimum amount of bloodshed; that's the prevailing view in our galaxy.
16:10 j0hndeere What is this 'Panama method'?
16:14 avagraphique tipafreind suggestions?
16:17 sardello when i will install the extension sr_feuser_register i become two warnings
16:17 sardello Warning: Invalid argument supplied for foreach() in /www/blablabla/t3lib/class.t3lib_install.php on line 393
16:17 sardello Warning: Cannot modify header information - headers already sent by (output started at /www/blablabla/t3lib/class.t3lib_install.php:393) in /www/htdocs/blablabla/typo3/mod/tools/em/class.em_index.php on line 1939
16:22 sardello on lin 393 in the class.t3lib_install.php there is foreach ($cfg['keys'] as $kN => $kType)
16:26 sardello no idea? can i give you any information?
16:26 pulponair hey dudes
16:28 sardello on line 1939: header('Location: '.t3lib_div::linkThisScript($vA));
16:29 eeos pulponair: hi there
16:29 pulponair hi eeos
16:29 eeos I would like to send some plain text inside a TV market is that possible? I know this is silly and simple, but .... :)
16:30 eeos like lib.whatever.data = blah, blah, blah, blah
16:30 bedlamhotel 'market'?
16:30 eeos (lib.whatever is the marker) is that possible?
16:30 eeos market = marker :D
16:31 bedlamhotel Yes, why not? Use the Typoscript object option when creating your fields in TV
16:31 pulponair eeos: not that way....start over again and explain what you are actually trying to achieve
16:32 bedlamhotel pulp: good point :)
16:32 pulponair bedlamhotel: ;)
16:32 eeos I have a marker (lib.whatever). I want to put a string in it through typoscript.
16:32 eeos pulponair:
16:32 eeos :)
16:33 pulponair lib.wahatever isnt a marker btw
16:33 eeos ok, a tsop :P
16:33 pulponair yes
16:33 eeos :)
16:33 pulponair eeos: of what type is it?
16:33 pulponair text?
16:33 eeos the last time I said tsop in the room, most of the answer where what is a tsop :D
16:34 eeos pulponair a string
16:34 pulponair eeos: so it is lib.whatever=TEXT right?
16:34 pulponair eeos: i guess you mistake markers and TSOBJs there
16:35 pulponair anyway the way to go is : lib.whatever.value= hello {field:whatever} lib.whatever.insertData=1
16:36 pulponair sorry for confusing field:anotherWhatEver :)
16:36 eeos lib.whatever = TEXT, lib.whatever.data = blah, lib.marker < lib.whatever
16:36 eeos that is what I did
16:36 pulponair that is wrong
16:36 eeos why :(
16:37 pulponair could you paste your whole problem please i.e. what are you trying to inject from where
16:37 pulponair do you just wanna copy an obj?
16:37 eeos from setup field in template
16:37 pulponair so use lib.obj1 < lib.obj2
16:38 pulponair eeos: what template and what setup field ?
16:38 eeos no, let's say I create a TO in TV. I map the lib.marker in the appropriate element.
16:38 pulponair ok
16:39 pulponair now you wanna fill up marker form withhin the TS setup right?
16:39 eeos then for some pages, I just want to send a string "welcome here you duck" inside lib.marker
16:39 eeos does it make sense now?
16:39 pulponair yeah
16:39 pulponair paste your DS xml anyway please
16:40 pulponair same to the related setup parts
16:40 pulponair just to make sure
16:40 pulponair phpfi.com
16:41 eeos http://phpfi.com/227510
16:41 pulponair eeos: ok what ds field we are talking about?
16:42 eeos lib.footer_centre
16:42 eeos http://phpfi.com/227511
16:42 eeos is what I did
16:43 pulponair lib.whatever.value = anything
16:43 pulponair (depends on anything) :)
16:43 eeos ah, it was value not data
16:43 eeos never properly understoo when to use value and when data
16:44 pulponair value is plaintext
16:44 pulponair while data referes to other elements like fields etc
16:44 eeos but it does not work, I just tried
16:45 pulponair e.g. .value = hello world .data = page:title .value = hello {page:title} .insertData
16:45 eeos pulponair: but even using .value it does not work
16:45 pulponair did you try lib.footer_centre=TEXT. lib.footer_centre.value=hello world?
16:46 pulponair if that does not work you got a mapping problem
16:47 eeos I just did that but it does not work
16:48 eeos pulponair: I did lib.footer_centre = TEXT
16:48 eeos pulponair: then lib.footer_centre.value = hello world
16:49 eeos pulponair: did not work
16:49 pulponair eeos: ok definetly a mapping issue
16:50 pulponair eeos: check your mapping
16:50 eeos pulponair: I just checked it! everything is fine. I checked it in templavoila.
16:50 eeos pulponair: what other cehck could I do?
16:51 pulponair eeos: check your html template for unclosed double opened tags
16:51 pulponair (w3c validator)
16:52 pulponair eeos: good luck i gotta go now (cinema)
16:53 eeos pulponair: you are right, it did not map properly :(
16:53 pulponair eeos: as always ;)
16:53 pulponair eeos: at least we where able to narrow it down ;)
16:53 pulponair eeos: keep going ...i am out now
16:56 michimueller hi there
16:56 michimueller can anybody tell me, how to update an extension with the ER?
16:56 michimueller aaahhhm Extension Manager - not ER - sorry
16:59 michimueller I'm trying to update rtehtmlarea
17:00 michimueller but all I get is the following:
17:00 michimueller ERROR: Could not remove extension directory "/var/www/kunden/000/kaktusteam/typo3/sysext/rtehtmlarea/". Reasons:
17:00 michimueller Error: "/var/www/kunden/000/kaktusteam/typo3/sysext/rtehtmlarea/ChangeLog" could not be deleted!
17:00 michimueller I have a global install in which the sysextensions reside
17:00 michimueller and I have a local install from which I'm trying to update the sysinstall
17:01 michimueller what am I doing wrong?
17:05 michimueller nobody there to help me
17:05 michimueller *cry*
17:10 eeos have a good evening, everybody!
17:11 bedlamhotel michimueller: likely case is that permissions on the sysext directory do not allow the webserver user (often 'nobody') to write or delete files.
17:12 michimueller hm - the sysext dirs have apache as user
17:12 michimueller so there should be no problem
17:12 bedlamhotel michimueller: an easier, simpler to maintain--and in most cases just as safe--is to update the entire TYPO3 install when sysexts change.
17:13 michimueller ok - so I will give it a try
17:13 bedlamhotel michimueller: well, check that file (ChangeLog). The error message is quite clear.
17:13 michimueller thanks
17:13 michimueller hm - ok
17:13 bedlamhotel ...permissions /could/ still be wrong somehow.
17:13 elbart hi
17:13 bedlamhotel (even with apache as owner)
17:15 uschi hello folks :)
17:15 michimueller bedlamhotel, ok - so I will change permissions and give it a try
17:15 michimueller thanks
17:15 bedlamhotel morning uschi.
17:15 uschi hi bedlamhotel, long time no see :)
17:17 bedlamhotel uschi: lots of non-interweb things to do last week. Installing kitchen cabinets and so on :)
17:18 uschi i see :)
17:19 bedlamhotel First I tried uploading the cabinets using ftp, but it was not so successful and I had to pick up a screwdriver and do it the old-fashioned way...
17:24 uschi *L*
17:26 uschi you know, when we moved in here we would not have minded drag&drop capabilities for boxes and furniture, bedlamhotel :)
17:33 bedlamhotel Maybe somebody here could write a drag and drop extension for furniture...
17:36 dax77 hi @all
17:36 bedlamhotel ...or a templavoila apartment...
17:44 MasterYin Hey anybody here able to help me with guifbuildeR?
17:45 max_muetze hello, is there a chance to get an email everytime a frontenduser logs in?
17:51 MasterYin a mail if there is a login in the FE?... I think it should be possible
17:52 bedlamhotel MasterYin: what about gifbuilder?
17:54 MasterYin atm I use TEXT --> text.field = title but how can I allways get the title from the page with ID = 10
17:55 bedlamhotel MasterYin: check out the TSref section on datatypes sometime--it's a treasure trove of weird, useful things like what you need:
17:55 bedlamhotel text.data = DB :pages:10:title
17:55 max_muetze MasterYin: yes, i can track the frontendusers but i like to get an email on every login... for backend users thats no problem, but not on frontendusers...
17:56 bedlamhotel (not sure if the field name is actually 'title' or not--just take a look in the db)
17:56 MasterYin checking for DB i never thout abbout but you are right :-)
17:57 uschi hi max_muetze :)
17:57 bedlamhotel MasterYin: but check that syntax--quite different from the .field and .data you usually see.
17:57 max_muetze hi uschi :)
17:58 MasterYin just checking
18:28 dokma folks rejoice
18:28 dokma I solved my user registration issues
18:28 dokma the error: I mixed the user groups
18:28 dokma now I cam to the next hurdle
18:29 dokma can't edit profile
18:29 dokma actually can't save it
18:29 dokma any1 had this happen to him?
18:42 uschi struggling with sr_feuser_register as well, dokma?
18:42 dokma got it working partly
18:42 dokma profile editing fails
18:42 dokma u?
18:42 dokma debugger helped me quite alot
18:49 avagraphique anyone know what could be my issue with this code? the tipafriend extension not getting output to my page....
18:49 avagraphique http://phpfi.com/227537
18:55 null_0 wow. think i like typo now.
18:55 bedlamhotel avagraphique: looks right, but uncomment that template line. I haven't used this extension for quite a while, but I remember something weird about setting it up.
18:55 bedlamhotel null_0: time for a holiday then :D
18:55 null_0 :)
18:55 avagraphique thanks i will try that. i was thinking that it will default but perhaps not
18:55 bedlamhotel avagraphique: ...something weird, that is, about the template file.
18:56 bedlamhotel avagraphique: otherwise your temp.TIP code is identical to what I've got in a site I just checked.
19:01 avagraphique bedlamhotel: oh man what a day.. just got it to work. i un commented the template, and pointed it to a .tmpl file that was in my fileadmin/ and it seems to now work
19:01 avagraphique thanks!
19:01 bedlamhotel avagraphique: NP.
19:02 avagraphique bedlamhotel have any experience with da_newsletter_subscription extension?
19:02 avagraphique or anyone else?
19:04 bedlamhotel avagraphique: none here :)
19:10 dokma any1 noticed mailing list search engine fell?
19:48 uschi may someone point me to the 'normal' way how to find out, which users are members of a specific group?
19:49 uschi hello j0hndeere :)
19:49 j0hndeere Hello again uschi :)
19:49 uschi i repeat my question, because you might know:
19:49 uschi may someone point me to the 'normal' way how to find out, which users are members of a specific group?
19:49 j0hndeere If you could do something about this flaky satellite, I would be highly grateful.
19:50 uschi i still do not get, what the problem of your ins and outs is
19:51 j0hndeere uschi, truth be told, I've done little with user administration thus far
19:52 uschi ok, where is Ries?
19:54 uschi or gerards, because they are obviously dealing with many users
19:55 gerards uschi: list view.
19:55 gerards click on the little "plus" sign for fe_users.
19:55 gerards a little box will appear.
19:56 uschi this is fe_groups then, wait
19:56 gerards select usergroups
19:56 uschi testing
19:57 gerards after you select "Groups" from the little list, click set fields.
19:57 uschi and then, gerards
19:58 gerards then the usergroups will show for every user in the list view. i hope that's what you want.
19:58 uschi ok, i see the fields
19:58 uschi i see fields
19:58 gerards after you select "Groups" from the little list, click set fields.
19:58 uschi of the fe_groups table
19:59 uschi gerards, lets go over it again
19:59 gerards list view.
19:59 gerards goto the page with all your fe users.
19:59 uschi i am on the storage folder where my groups and users are stored
20:00 uschi and in list view
20:00 gerards ok. there is a little + sign next to website user (213x923jc)
20:00 gerards click it.
20:00 gerards page will reload.
20:00 uschi hm, gerards, i want to know about the users that are in a group
20:01 gerards easiest way i know is to do an sql.
20:01 uschi ok
20:01 uschi this is the answer i feared
20:01 uschi that is ridiculous in terms of hci
20:02 gerards what's hci?
20:02 uschi human computer interaction
20:02 gerards i'm SURE there are extensions. :) its not hard to do.
20:02 uschi user and group administration is awfull in t3, i am sorry
20:02 uschi there are
20:03 uschi but i just wanted to know, how normal people do this
20:03 gerards go to Tools->User Admin.
20:03 uschi i am there
20:03 gerards you can group by main user group. its not fantastic, but it might help.
20:03 uschi not really in case of a university page
20:03 uschi this is a desaster
20:04 gerards hahahah yeah it might be uschi :) sorry i can't help much.
20:04 gerards many many extensions. spend 30 minutes on each one. in 2 hours you'll find a nice one.
20:05 uschi your searchwords would be?
20:05 uschi groups, users ...
20:06 uschi and this on two levels, because of this bloody differentiation of be and fe-users
20:06 uschi historical reasons or not, this is subject to change
20:07 gerards users adminstration
20:07 bedlamhotel uschi: might not be a huge help, but you could devise (and enforce) a naming convention that provided some information about a user's group affiliation or role...
20:07 gerards hahaha bedlamhotel. does that work? ;)
20:08 uschi my users will be in a lot of different groups
20:08 uschi this counts for fe and be users
20:08 uschi that system, i repeat it, is ridiculous
20:09 bedlamhotel gerards: provided the relationships are not too abstruse, it could be useful. However, I think nothing about Uschi's site is simple...if the actual requirements don't make it complex, TYPO3 does :-)
20:09 gerards lol.
20:10 uschi you described the problem well, bedlamhotel :)
20:12 bedlamhotel Uschi: yes. I'm glad to be thousands of miles away when I say this, but TYPO3 is not known for its powerful community-driven website features...
20:12 uschi it is all easy, if you have an average site with 10 be and perhaps 10 fe-groups
20:12 uschi no matter, i have to live with it
20:12 Denyerec You know, with other people's websites I always know where to start.
20:12 Denyerec NOw it's my own... I'm clueless.
20:13 uschi you are not alone in this respect, Denyerec :)
20:13 j0hndeere Denyerec: So find someone else who has the same problem and develop each other's websites :P
20:13 j0hndeere see? Problem solved.
20:13 Denyerec hehehe
20:13 bedlamhotel uschi: also, if it's any consolation, TYPO3 has better user-management features than any other open source CMS I know of.
20:13 uschi right, Denyerec, you mine, i yours
20:13 Denyerec I wanna start by making sure I get translation sorted.
20:15 uschi there is a german novel by theodor fontane, and an old major keeps saying something like: this is very wide field, Denyerec
20:15 uschi Denyerec, what will your page be about?
20:15 Denyerec www.sozu.co.uk
20:15 Denyerec implementing that in Typo, with MANY extras
20:17 uschi and perhaps having a more scalable design, my dear?
20:18 uschi in the first place, scalable and beautiful?
20:18 uschi have you ever thought, what will happen to your page if you need larger tables or sourcecode?
20:19 uschi it looks nice, Denyerec, but it is not scalable
20:20 Denyerec Exactly Uschi
20:20 Denyerec there are many things about it that need to change
20:20 uschi though i like those arrows
20:20 Denyerec Except the visual style will remain very similar.
20:21 Denyerec But wider / semi-fluid width.
20:21 uschi that is alright
20:21 Denyerec Well, the design got me into a book, so I can't change it now ;)
20:21 uschi fully fluid perhaps?
20:21 Denyerec No
20:21 Denyerec I have a 1900x1200 monitor
20:21 Denyerec full fluid designs look like shit
20:21 Denyerec and I know people with larger screens still
20:21 uschi i like the design, but ...
20:22 Denyerec ideal readability for human beings in print is 13-15 words per line, so fully fluid layouts break that horribly on wide displays.
20:23 uschi yes, but this can be achieved by other things
20:23 uschi this is what i tried for the university page
20:23 uschi it fits into 800x600, but is still nice on 1200xsomething
20:24 uschi what i like about the design
20:25 uschi you are not desturbed by anything when you want to read the content
20:25 uschi there is the menu, but that is on the right
20:25 uschi i would perhaps have a top-menu, in order to get catories of news and so on more space
20:26 uschi easier to navigate, i mean
20:26 uschi i love a list apart
20:28 uschi and, Denyerec, the question of text width in words depends on the language too, i think
20:30 uschi Denyerec, in the newsflash design, i think, that the newsflash image destracts a little bit from the actual topic
20:30 Denyerec Heh
20:31 Denyerec well they should be pictures relevant to the news
20:31 Denyerec but I made them too awkward to update, so never bother.
20:31 uschi so that is subject to change?
20:31 Denyerec I hated a list aparts new style
20:31 Denyerec Shit website for SO many reasons
20:31 Denyerec t makes the content impossibly difficult to find
20:31 Denyerec which is the only reason a website exists.
20:31 uschi not for me????
20:32 Denyerec I hate sites with poor indexes / searches
20:32 Denyerec I just want to read their posts sequentially from 1 -> now()
20:32 Denyerec and I cannot find how
20:32 uschi it is difficult to find content on ala?
20:32 Denyerec I even wrote to the authors
20:32 Denyerec of course, I never received a response.
20:34 uschi back to your design, Denyerec ?
20:34 Denyerec oh
20:35 Denyerec yes you shouldn't judge the existing one.
20:35 uschi because that is a feature, that is lacking in ala
20:35 Denyerec Many things are due to change on sozu
20:35 Denyerec but, yes, that is the next project.
20:35 uschi same thing with the dataclouds, but WHAT to think about
20:35 Denyerec :)
20:37 uschi i do find the contrast of the dark menu very hard
20:37 uschi it attracts my eyes a little bit to much
20:37 uschi means a blue header for the menu, but then get it lighter again
20:38 uschi for the menu items themselves, know what i mean?
20:39 uschi and too, in the portfolio, i think that the images predominate the content (headerimages) i mean
20:40 Denyerec You mean on sozu
20:40 Denyerec or ALA
20:40 Denyerec or your site?
20:41 uschi sozu :)
20:41 Denyerec I don't know wha tyou mean about the images predominating the content.
20:41 Denyerec There is hardly any content :)
20:41 Denyerec And lets face it, no-one reads web portfolios.
20:42 Denyerec they just want to see the pictures :)
20:42 Denyerec To credit your readers with... well... reading.... would be dangerous ;)
20:42 uschi i do, and i even do for finding people who could do jobs :)
20:42 uschi every single customer looks at portfolios
20:42 dax77 time to say: good night :)
20:43 uschi hey dax77, you still here?
20:43 uschi wait a second
20:43 dax77 always in the background
20:43 mcfloppy hello
20:43 dax77 ok
20:44 Denyerec You know to be honest, the only job I've got through my website (besides writing the copy for tha book) was based on the style of the sozu one.
20:45 Denyerec Not the (shit) sites in the portfolio.
20:45 Denyerec Which are, to be quite frank, appalling.
20:46 Denyerec but yes uschi, it won't be a direct re-creation of the existing one
20:46 Denyerec more of.... a cousin :)
20:48 mcfloppy http://paste.debian.net/25889 can you explain me, how i can made this code work? i have no idea, how to display a wrap all around the menu...
20:48 uschi well, now you have me looking at your website
20:49 uschi and i am living together with people, who do websites, darling
20:49 Denyerec Spare me their wrath.
20:51 Denyerec I should add WLA, Stretchmagic and MMarketing to the portfolio
20:51 Denyerec but I made it too difficult to generate the images, which is why I never update it.
20:51 Denyerec back in 30 mins...
20:52 null_0 uschi: you need templates?
20:52 uschi why do you ask, null_0 ?
20:53 null_0 [00.46] <uschi> i do, and i even do for finding people who could do jobs :)
20:53 null_0 that sounds to me like you try to resell typo work
20:56 uschi no, i am not talking about typo3-work
21:04 uschi hello Miriam
21:04 uschi you are not incidentally miriam torbeck?
21:04 Miriam nope
21:05 Miriam sorry
21:05 uschi but at least on of the rare occasions to meet femal t3-people here
21:06 uschi not that i do find gender in this respect important, but just ...
21:07 uschi at least this is what your nick suggests, Miriam
21:09 uschi can i import them via t3x
21:09 uschi yes, but goint to ecuador?
21:10 dokma uschi
21:10 dokma anything good with user registration
21:10 uschi not yet, i stopped working
21:11 uschi more news tomorrow
21:11 Ries uschi: liek I said... first time took me two whole days
21:11 dokma u ever had probs with profiles not saving?
21:11 dokma today is my second day of struggle
21:11 uschi no idea yet, shall try tomorrow, dokma, after a good nights sleep
21:12 dokma rgr that
21:12 uschi inform you tomorrow
21:12 mcfloppy_ http://paste.debian.net/25889 can you explain me, how i can made this code work? i have no idea, how to display a wrap all around the menu...
21:12 uschi good night to all
21:12 mcfloppy_ i had asked this before a few minutes but my inet was broken ;)
21:12 mcfloppy_ sorry
21:21 bedlamhotel dokma: maybe this won't be too helpful, but with sr_feuser_register, be sure to follow the instructions /exactly/ at first.
21:22 dokma I followed them almost exactly
21:22 dokma I only did not use the login page
21:22 dokma cause my newlogin box is displayed on every page
21:22 dokma so i skipped that step
21:22 bedlamhotel I have had trouble with that extension in the past, but every time I've just gone back and followed the illogically-ordered directions and it's worked...
21:22 dokma as for the rest I believe I followed all correctly
21:22 dokma but will have to recheck
21:23 dokma really
21:23 dokma have you ever had problem with user profiles not saving?
21:23 dokma because everything else works
21:23 bedlamhotel Yes. With that extension, I have had problems at every stage at one point or another.
21:24 dokma I see
21:24 dokma I will recheck the instructions
21:24 dokma that is a given
21:24 bedlamhotel Last time I did it, it went very smoothly. No idea why.
21:24 dokma btw I found using a debugger with eclipse to be really helpfull when it comes to typo
21:24 dokma if you are interested let me know
21:33 Denyerec pizzow
21:41 dokma denyerec you know if (kb_md5fepw) works with typo3 4 ?
21:41 dokma I need it for user registration
21:41 Denyerec NOt a clue
21:41 dokma rgr
21:41 dokma ever used sr_feuser_registration?
21:49 dokma hmmm
21:49 dokma I've gotten a step forward
21:49 dokma now I keep getting: A valid e-mail is required.
21:50 dokma even though I entered a valid one
21:55 bedlamhotel dokma: chances are good that the email exists in the database already.
21:55 dokma well I was trying to edit my profile
21:55 dokma so the email did exist in the very profile I was editing
21:56 dokma ?
21:57 null_0 good night extensionlovers:) </work>
21:57 dokma lol
21:57 dokma </work>
21:57 dokma hehehee
21:57 dokma HTMLing life?
21:57 dokma hehehe
21:58 null_0 no. just a week of migrating jboss to typo ext/pi1 ;)
21:58 null_0 n8
21:59 dokma haha
21:59 dokma !!
21:59 dokma sleep well
21:59 dokma God bless u
21:59 ndee_ any RTE experts? I want that when I hit enter in the RTE, that it really makes a <p>. Now, it somehow ignores the <p>s
22:01 dokma I thought that was the default?
22:01 Denyerec null
22:01 Denyerec jboss as in JobBoss DB?
22:01 ndee_ hm
22:02 ndee_ when I write some text, hit enter 3 times and enter some more text, in the frontend, the text is on the same line.
22:02 Denyerec That would rule out there being any BR's in it too
22:02 Denyerec have you played around with the config or is it a clean install ?
22:03 ndee_ it is a clean install and I'm about to mess with it :D
22:03 Denyerec Doh.
22:04 ndee_ Doh what?
22:05 Denyerec That it's broken by default.
22:05 ndee_ ah
22:05 ndee_ do you know how to fix it? :D
22:08 ndee_ overruleMode = ts_css allowed me to make <br>s already
22:10 Denyerec Mine's always "just worked"
22:10 Denyerec so I don't know what you've done or had happen to break it.
22:14 ndee_ so when you hit enter, it generates a <p>?
22:14 ndee_ in the RTE, the <p> is present, but not in the frontend, I've set the overrulemode to none so it shouldn't do a conversion.
22:18 Denyerec For me, it just works
22:18 Denyerec P's in the RTE, P's in the ffrontent.
22:19 Denyerec P's everywhere.
22:19 ndee_ hm
22:19 Denyerec It's like a public urinal.
22:19 ndee_ sweet!
22:19 Denyerec Odourous.
22:19 ndee_ and you have no configuration of the RTE at all?
22:19 Denyerec I DO, but prior to doing so, it's all seemingly fine.
22:19 Denyerec Which version are you using of Typo and RTE ?
22:19 ndee_ typo 4.1.1 and RTE 1.5.2 or 1.5.6 IIRC
22:20 Denyerec NOthign too ancient then
22:20 ndee_ nope, not really
22:20 Denyerec some people sometimes ask about 3.8
22:20 ndee_ bleeding edge!
22:20 ndee_ haha
22:20 Denyerec Indeed :/
22:20 ndee_ nana, that's stone age
22:20 ndee_ can you post your rte config somewhere?
22:22 ndee_ going to sleep, good night y'all
22:22 Denyerec Well ordinarily I don't have one.
23:13 michimueller hi there
23:14 michimueller any experiences with upgrading from 4.0.2 to 4.1?

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