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#TYPO3 IRC log from : Wednesday 18 April 2007

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00:25 Rocketjock Hello Everyone
00:25 Rocketjock Hey Ries
00:26 Rocketjock Hi gerards
01:47 Ries hey Rocketjock ini and out and in
02:07 gerards hi Rocketjock. bad connections?
02:07 Rocketjock I guess
02:07 Rocketjock the connections in my state have been bad ll week
02:08 Rocketjock all
02:08 gerards which state is that?
02:17 Rocketjock Montana
03:24 nickelmedia why is there no typo3 forum?
03:24 nickelmedia or is there?
03:27 nickelmedia in engolish
03:36 Ries nickelmedia: there is, it just that most peopel prevere teh mailing list.... I do to, forums are form me unconfenient
04:37 gerards alright Ries, everyone, see yawl tomorrow.
04:40 d|g hi all
05:14 tansta i am bored, could somebody please entertain me ? ;)
05:30 uschi_ morning bedlamhotel :)
05:30 bedlamhotel Good morning.
05:31 bedlamhotel Early riser aren't you?
05:31 uschi_ sometimes
05:32 bedlamhotel I'm guessing that you weren't working on your site at 2:30 this morning...
05:33 uschi right you are
05:34 uschi but i could do with 2 hours more of sleep
05:34 uschi it is only, there are people coming at 8:30
05:34 uschi repairing windows
05:36 bedlamhotel Ah. Good to have working windows.
05:37 uschi i mean the glass windows, not the OS
05:38 bedlamhotel That's what I meant too :) Working Windows is nowhere near as important...
05:42 null_0 gm
05:42 uschi morning
05:51 bedlamhotel good night folks.
05:51 uschi n8 bedlamhotel :)
05:52 uschi morning dax77 :)
05:52 dax77 good morning @all
05:53 dax77 uschi: you are to fast for me this morning ;)
05:53 uschi just said good night to bedlamhotel, next was you turning up :)
05:53 dalma hello ppl! :)
05:54 just2b_ good morning
05:54 dalma night here :)
05:54 dax77 hi dalma, hi just2b_
05:54 just2b_ I search for a solution to give a user a temporary access, e.g. 14days, 1time, 1day
05:56 dalma I have a question, I'm using GIFBUILDER to create graphical headers with someyhing like lib.stdheader.10.1 < MyHeader, but I have a problem, when the header text is too long the generated image is also long and breaks the HTML desing. How can I instruct GIFBUILDER to use a maximum width with word-wrap (jumping to a second line...)
05:56 just2b_ dalma: XY = [10.w]+20,30
05:57 dalma just2b, that's what I have... but I need word-wrap
05:58 dalma XY = [10.w]+20,30 generates an image with a width proportional to the text width, I need to specify a max width and when the text reaches this max GIFBUILDER shuold use 2 lines instead of 1.. and the text must span 2 lines
05:58 just2b_ dalma dont' think that there is something like that. you can change your field to textarea and make as many lines as you want
05:59 dalma Oh, :(, ok, I think I'll do thath...
05:59 dalma thanks!
05:59 dalma good night everyone
06:02 dax77 night dalma
06:02 uschi now?
06:02 uschi in the morning?
06:02 dax77 right here, right now - until the boss comes
06:02 uschi i see
06:24 zat hi all
06:28 smda morning all
06:29 Jigal good moaning!
06:30 dax77 hi zat, Jigal, smda
06:39 zatmania hi Jigal, dax77, floxx, smda and all
06:40 floxx hi zatmania, jigal and all others
06:40 uschi morning zatmania :)
06:41 zatmania hey uschi
06:48 bauschan hi @all !
06:55 zatmania hi bauschan
06:56 tansta guys, i have double install the RTE, how do i get rid of the local installation and use the one that come with typo3 ?
06:58 dax77 hi tansta
06:58 tansta help anyone ? :)
06:58 tansta oh hi dax77
06:58 tansta wow, you're here often now ;)
06:58 just2b_ tansta, delete it in EM
06:58 dax77 I don't know if that works, but you could use the ext-manager to uninstall and delete the local install
06:59 uschi tansta, just uninstall the local version and delete the files in typo3conf/ext
06:59 just2b_ yeah that works
06:59 tansta oh okay let me try that one
06:59 tansta thanks heaps guys :)
07:00 tansta my god the RTE is such a big extensions
07:01 tansta bloody hell that works like charm :) thanks guys
07:01 dax77 hehe :)
07:02 tansta hehehe
07:02 tansta oh here's a tricky question
07:02 dax77 42
07:02 tansta has anyone heard of image magick being successfully install on an IIS server yet ?
07:03 dax77 no win user over here
07:03 tansta yeah not me either
07:10 zatmania tansta : only install on win system, not specially with iis
07:10 Guschtel Does someone know why some advanced pages store its attached images into the uploads/media folder and some others don't?
07:11 tansta but zat, IIS only runs on windows system right ?
07:12 Guschtel the ony difference i can see is that one of them is inside a "sysfolder" and the other isn't
07:12 Guschtel tansta, yes
07:13 tansta hmmm...so if we install typo3 on a windows - IIS system, how do we manipulate image without image magick ?
07:15 tobi image magick should also work with iis, since it is a extern program
07:16 zatmania tansta : you must install image magick
07:16 zatmania there is some post on french forum about that
07:17 tansta oh okay...
07:17 tansta seems like some sleepless night for me :)
07:17 zatmania must install image magick (don't know if graphic magick exist on win)
07:18 zatmania me too so go to drink a coffee right now :)
07:18 tansta zat: make me one please :)
07:19 tansta takes out a cigarette
07:21 bauschan Jigal: are you somewhere around?
07:34 koomi moin
07:35 just2b_ question again: I search for a solution to give a user a temporary access, e.g. 14days, 1time, 1day
07:35 koomi no start/stop time for a user, i take it?
07:36 uschi anyone using skin_grey2? with 2level topmenu?
07:36 just2b_ no, can't use that... i want e.g. that a user can only login one time or one day and I don't know when he starts..
07:37 dax77 just2b_: good idea - but I guess you have to write that ext first
07:38 just2b_ yeah i guess so... but would be a nice enhancement...
07:39 uschi i cannot find the logout button
07:40 dax77 just2b_: yes, I can even think of more features: like password live-time
07:40 just2b_ for this there is already a ext out
07:41 dax77 hmm, maybe you can use that and enhance it?
07:41 just2b_ i hate changing other extensions :D
07:41 dax77 you'll get used to it
07:42 dax77 and sometimes you can learn something
07:42 just2b_ i hate it because so many extensions are so ugly made that I have to close my eyes and then working is quite difficult
07:51 just2b_ ... jigal.. always the same... ;) had to make a page in 1 day for a customer and 2 weeks later the customer got bankrupt and I still wait for the money..
07:52 just2b_ dax77: i guess i just make a simple xclass of feuserauth
07:53 floxx did anyone already try to insert a plugin in the xml of an fce?
07:53 floxx i want the editor to insert my fce and then the fce is already filled with the extension...
07:55 floxx i cant use the standard way via object path, because the plugin has to be configrued for each page and i dont want the editor to configure the plugin with typoscript
07:55 bauschan Jigal: while waiting, do you have a second for some offtopic question ?
07:55 bauschan no need to hurry :)
07:57 Phlogiston_ hello guys
07:57 Phlogiston_ is it no possible to hide the about button in the htmlarea RTE at all?
07:59 michimueller hi there
07:59 michimueller any jm_gallery developers arround?
08:00 Phlogiston_ michimueller: i'm just using it why?
08:00 Phlogiston_ michimueller: btw, i think theres only one :)
08:00 michimueller I got empty galleries after updating from 0.4 to 0.8
08:00 michimueller hehe - think so ;)
08:00 michimueller the galleries are all there
08:00 michimueller but the images are not
08:01 michimueller so the connection between images and galleries got somehow lost
08:02 michimueller hm - I think the data modell did change
08:02 michimueller there once was an 1:m relation between galleries and images, now it seems to be m:n
08:12 zatmania http://www.typo3-unleashed.net/nc/singleentry/date/2007/04/18/typo3-update-package-generator.html
08:15 FloLeBlanc hi all
08:16 bauschan good morning FloLeBlanc
08:16 FloLeBlanc can someone tell me which function is called when selecting the delete link from sr_feuser_register before the reg confirmation? I thought it is function deleteRecord(), but inserted a print("TESTMEBKSDJAKLSDHJSDKLHSD") and couldn't find anything
08:18 delmonico is it possible to enable the fileadmin module for users that are not allowed on the live workspace?
08:18 dax77 FloLeBlanc: hi. what are the piVars at that point?
08:18 FloLeBlanc http://new.billardcafe.at/index.php?id=222&tx_srfeuserregister_pi1[rU]=244&tx_srfeuserregister_pi1[cmd]=setfixed&tx_srfeuserregister_pi1[sFK]=DELETE&fD[_FIELDLIST]=uid%252Cpid&tx_srfeuserregister_pi1[aC]=3b23333f
08:18 FloLeBlanc got invoked
08:18 delmonico and why can't my DRAFT users not use the "insert image" in the rte? they don't see any files
08:19 FloLeBlanc and the cmd is delete so as far as I understand the delete function is called
08:22 dax77 FloLeBlanc: its not delete, its setfixed
08:23 dax77 [cmd]=setfixed
08:23 FloLeBlanc oh I always checked sFK stupid me thx
08:24 FloLeBlanc *browses the code again*
08:24 Phlogiston_ is it possible to send FE users emails with new passwords in it?
08:27 Jigal just2b_: about time restricted logins: you can make your own authentication service, which can do extra checks; I made one that keeps track of number of incorrect login attempts and blocks account after six failed attempts. You can install it as a top priority auth service and you've done it in a clean, compatible way...
08:28 FloLeBlanc ah found it thx a lot dax77
08:28 dax77 np
08:29 dax77 Phlogiston_: using sr_feuser_register? maybe with option: generatePassword = 1
08:31 Jigal bauschan: still have your off topic question? ;-P
08:31 Phlogiston_ But if they don't register themselves? I have to create them manually... and then I want to send them an email with a random PW
08:32 bauschan Jigal: ahh?, yes :-)
08:32 bauschan Jigal: pm?
08:32 Jigal bauschan: yep, I'm registered
08:35 just2b_ anyone familiar with tslib_feuserauth?
08:36 specialunderwear hi I need to insert a totally static html page in a typo3 cms, how should I best do this?
08:37 Jigal just2b_: did you read my remark about time restricted logins?
08:37 dax77 Phlogiston_: I think there is an extension for random password generation
08:37 just2b_ no sry didn't see it
08:38 just2b_ jigal: ah ok .. where do I have to begin
08:38 Jigal just2b_: by asking me for the code?
08:38 just2b_ can I get the code pleasE? ;)
08:39 Jigal just2b_: do I have your e-mail address? (pm?)
08:44 just2b_ Jigal: saw my pm?
08:46 Phlogiston_ dax77: jap ok and how to send the emails? or can that extension do that too?
08:49 Jigal just2b_: no ??
08:50 just2b_ ah mom
08:57 delmonico hmm why is there web->versioning *and* user->workspace? I don't see the need for two modules?
08:57 dax77 Phlogiston_: no automatic way I can think of
08:58 Phlogiston_ dax77: shit :(
09:03 Jigal if we don't hear from bauschan for a few hours, it's because he's digging through a bunch of websites to find a nice holiday home ;-)
09:07 pulponair hi there
09:07 uschi hi pulponair :))
09:07 pulponair hi uschi
09:10 zatmania hi pulp
09:11 bauschan bauschan takes Google Earth to the limit, regarding Netherland :)
09:23 null_0 Someone else here, noticed the problem that the rte editor does not load into firefox on an debian?
09:23 delmonico null_0: update the rte, should work again then
09:24 null_0 ah. will try, thanks
09:24 delmonico was some problem with a specific rte/firefox version combination
09:24 just2b any idea how i get the start/stop fields in e.g. fe_users to datetime?
09:24 just2b nf_date2datetime seams not working (under 4.1.1?)
09:25 null_0 (rtehtmlarea)? ist this <-- the rte?
09:26 just2b ok got it
09:26 null_0 i thought it was build in typo since 4.0.x
09:30 Jigal null_0: here's the story and the fix: http://bugs.typo3.org/view.php?id=0005266
09:31 null_0 oh. fine. That was the hint
09:31 null_0 thank you Jigal , delmonico
09:32 null_0 works again
09:32 dokma uschi u around?
09:33 uschi yes
09:33 dokma u using kb_md5fepw with user register?
09:33 uschi dokma?
09:33 uschi yes
09:33 dokma it says it does not work with typo3 >3.8.x
09:33 uschi ignore
09:33 dokma so everything is fine
09:34 dokma rgr that
09:34 dokma I still didn't manage to fix profile editing
09:34 dokma I'm going over the configuration again
09:34 uschi dokma, i have not set up sr_feuser_register yet, i am doing it right now
09:34 dokma cool
09:34 dokma wanna see my ts?
09:35 uschi but what i experienced is: it is important that you install kb_md5fepw after newloginbox and perhaps also after sr_feuser_register
09:35 dokma really?
09:35 Phlogiston_ how can I send news created with tt_news with direct mail? is there an ext for that?
09:35 dokma why is that important?
09:35 dokma are there any other exts that react to the order of installation?
09:35 uschi this is documented in the docs of kb_md5fepw itself
09:36 dokma I will install it only now
09:36 uschi because it modifies newloginbox in order to work
09:36 dokma so I guess that is ok
09:36 uschi i suppose so, yes :)
09:36 dokma I was wondering if perhaps my profile editing problem has something to do with some ext problem like that one
09:36 uschi i did it the wrong way, and so my normal fe-users could not login anymore
09:36 dokma ahhh
09:36 dokma that happened to me too
09:37 uschi no, that is a bug in 2.5.6
09:37 uschi just read the bugtracker, here it comes:
09:37 dokma of kb_md5 ?
09:37 uschi no, sr_feuser_register, see here: http://bugs.typo3.org/view.php?id=0005232
09:37 uschi with workaround
09:38 FloLeBlanc sr_feuser is a mess.. I had to dirtyfix/hack half the class :(
09:38 dokma cool
09:38 dokma that is a full patch
09:38 dokma didn't know about that
09:39 uschi just found out half an hour ago, dokma :))
09:39 dokma Flo u ever had problem with profile editing?
09:39 dokma tx uschi
09:39 dokma too bad my hosting server is down
09:39 dokma I can't access my site
09:39 FloLeBlanc dokma: I had a problem with almost everything in sr_feuser_register due to the fact that I implemented registration via SMS
09:39 dokma argh
09:40 dokma that was probably easier to code from scratch
09:40 FloLeBlanc looking back at it... yes
09:40 FloLeBlanc I thought the hooks would work for me at the beginning though
09:40 uschi hm dokma, the problem is, that this way we end up with dozens of extensions doing more or less the same, instead of having one, that really works
09:41 dokma that is true
09:41 dokma better have one solid multipurpose
09:41 dokma though that has tradeoffs too
09:41 dokma can get bloated
09:41 uschi i think, things will get better again when stanislas rolland is back from his one year trip
09:42 dokma who is he?
09:42 uschi sr == stanislas rolland, dokma
09:42 dokma ahhhh...
09:42 dokma I see
09:42 uschi he is also responsible for rtehtmlarea
09:42 FloLeBlanc if he survives the ppl standing with torches in front of his house *G*
09:42 dokma it'd be nice to have him here
09:42 dokma hahaha !!
09:44 dokma I made a script that copies my site from hosting server to my local linux box
09:44 dokma here I can attack it with debugger + eclipse
09:44 dokma can cut down a lot of problems
09:44 dokma it helped me notice that my ts setup was not getting loaded
09:44 dokma then I learned it must be in the constants section
09:44 uschi i will have to get into eclipse as well, one of these days
09:45 dokma it's very fragile
09:45 uschi yes, but that is written in the docs, dokma, really
09:45 dokma but if you're lucky enough to get it working
09:45 dokma it is a lot of help
09:45 dokma lol
09:45 dokma thats a nice workarround
09:45 dokma our software is fragile
09:45 dokma dont expect much
09:46 uschi this is something i learned: find out first, where to add your code, or it will not work
09:46 dokma gets a lot of complaints handled
09:46 dokma what is the diff between constants and setup anyway?
09:46 dokma I never figured that one out
09:46 uschi they are handeled differently internally
09:47 dokma any short and logical way to explain it in summary?
09:47 uschi not really
09:47 dokma do you understand it?
09:47 uschi or yes, perhaps
09:47 tobi constants are only values, all you can use are conditions ... in setup you can use all typoscript objects
09:48 uschi you can have ONE setup lib.something
09:48 uschi and configure 3 or 4 values as so called constants that are used by the setup
09:48 dokma I see
09:49 dokma it does make sense
09:49 Phlogiston_ how can I send news created with tt_news with direct mail? is there an ext for that?
09:49 uschi it does :)
09:49 FloLeBlanc phlogiston you don't need an ext
09:49 FloLeBlanc but this is covered in the manual isn't it?
09:49 tobi there is a section about that in the manual Phlogiston_
09:49 Phlogiston_ tobi: in which manual? dm?
09:49 tobi yes
09:51 Phlogiston_ thanks:=)
09:52 dokma hmmm
09:52 dokma I just noticed that useMd5Password is turned on by default
09:52 dokma I guess that could cause a problem if I did not install md5fepw
09:53 dokma right?
09:53 eeos hi everybody
09:53 dokma hi
09:53 dokma damn server
09:53 dokma still down
10:04 dokma uschi where are you from
10:05 cK- has anyone ever had the problem that users could not modify content in templavoilà at all?
10:06 cK- i.e. they change some text, click save/save and view/save and close and no changes to the db are made at all
10:06 cK- no matter whether rte is enabled or not
10:07 uschi germany, dokma
10:07 uschi and you?
10:07 dokma croatia
10:07 uschi far away :)
10:08 dokma i need to learn german finally
10:08 dokma not really
10:08 dokma 12 hours drive
10:08 dokma with my german bmw 525
10:08 dokma o yeah :)
10:08 uschi *g*
10:08 uschi why do you have to learn german?
10:08 dokma i know only german
10:08 dokma english thatis
10:08 dokma its embarasing
10:08 uschi ah, i see
10:09 uschi but you write english here, so what is wrong?
10:09 dokma not for here
10:09 dokma i know only one foreign language
10:09 dokma that is was to little
10:09 dokma way to litle
10:09 uschi +t
10:09 NublaII I´m trying to assing a template to smile_glossary but I can't find anything on the documentation
10:10 uschi perhaps you should learn typing beforehand, dokma ;-)
10:10 NublaII I need to have a couple of templates, one for the main page of my site and another one for the glossary page
10:10 dokma ah... who cares about that
10:10 NublaII but I can only get results editing the default template that comes with the extension...
10:10 NublaII anybody using smile_glossary around?
10:11 dokma nope
10:11 tom34325 hallo did anybody know this problem:
10:11 dokma uschi
10:11 dokma this bug you pointed me to
10:11 uschi yes, dokma?
10:11 dokma it might be exactly my problem
10:12 uschi yes, seems so
10:12 dokma cause when I try to save my edit on the profile
10:12 tom34325 in live workspace the site is ok, but in develop workspace a hidden menu will be displayed
10:12 dokma I just get an empty form
10:12 uschi this seems to be a never ending story
10:12 dokma tom never used dev workspace
10:12 uschi who is tom?
10:13 uschi i am not into workspaces yet
10:13 dokma me neither
10:14 tom34325 hmm
10:14 tom34325 where could i find some information about this bug?
10:15 dokma search the mailing list archives
10:15 dokma if the engine is up
10:15 dokma it was down yesterday when I tried it
10:15 dokma you can also search the bug tracker
10:15 dokma and it probably is not a bug
10:16 dokma it's probably some feature
10:16 dokma so try the manuals first
10:17 roelof hello, everybody
10:18 dokma hi
10:19 roelof i ask yesterday the same, but after deleting and typing again , it don't works. What's wrog with this TS : http://phpfi.com/227719
10:20 dokma no clue foelof
10:20 dokma roelof
10:21 roelof oke, thanks for the effort . Dokma
10:21 roelof maybe someone else knows what's wrong here : http://phpfi.com/227719
10:23 beev0r where can i change the maximum value of the "before" and "after" fields when i'm creating or editing a content element?
10:23 beev0r at the moment it is 50
10:24 beev0r i need an infinite value
10:25 pulponair any dbal wizards in here? i just wonder why it isnt actually possible to seperate fe_uers from fe_sessions using different databases
10:28 roelof sorry, pulponair, thats higher maths for me
10:29 pulponair roelof: dont worry i am pretty used to getting no answer ;)
10:30 dokma is there some log that gets written when fe user fails to login?
10:30 roelof no good feeling , i think , pulponair
10:31 dokma are logins getting logged at all?
10:31 dokma for fe users that is
10:31 dokma i know be users do get logged
10:31 eeos pulponair: hi there
10:31 just2b re
10:32 eeos hi just2b
10:32 pulponair hi
10:33 just2b hi eeos
10:33 just2b (/h)
10:34 Phlogiston_ where is the tt_news default css stylesheet?
10:34 pulponair just2b: if he/she is thinking that way she should better hire an indian
10:34 eeos just2b: actually, we had an indian supplier, paid 15 euro/hour
10:34 Phlogiston_ found it
10:34 just2b Phlogiston_ in static/ts_new/setup.txt i guess
10:34 just2b eeos and how was quality,... ?
10:34 Phlogiston_ just2b: yes thanks!
10:34 eeos just2b: and they messed everything up so very badly we had to pay some compensation to the customer (in services)
10:35 eeos just2b: :)
10:35 just2b :D
10:35 eeos just2b: so you can tell your customer (1) it is not true, do not try to stuff me up (2) serve yourself
10:35 just2b i guess no pity ;)
10:36 eeos just2b: well, we ended up not paying them and threatening them wth court and having to do most of it ourself for the customer
10:36 eeos just2b: the final customer I mean. We had tried to outsource a project because we did not have the resources
10:36 tobi in my old company we worked with ppl from india ... it was ok, but still you have to do a lot yourself
10:37 eeos just2b: so, it is not exactly "plain sailing" as your customer pretends. And also the cost are not 15/day but 15/hour, which is not very low.
10:38 pulponair ries: are you arround?
10:38 tobi we had a whole team working for us ( 5 ppl ) but i dont know how much they got
10:38 just2b yeah was a mistatke i changed a line later ;)
10:38 eeos just2b: if you need, tell them to contact us, we could give them a very "non reference" for you, explaining them how the market works
10:38 just2b because I don't really need the money I won't change my rates
10:39 dokma YEAHHH!!!!!!!! IT WORKS!!!!!
10:39 dokma uschi you're tha man!!!!
10:39 dokma profile editing works with the fix you provided
10:40 dokma and you should be mate
10:40 just2b eeos you tried my rgnewslinks?
10:40 dokma this is my third day
10:40 dokma I finally won!
10:40 dokma praise GOD!!!
10:40 dokma wheeee
10:40 eeos just2b: not yet.
10:40 eeos just2b: I will do soon.
10:40 dokma I did have to remove md5fepw
10:40 dokma it does not work with it
10:41 dokma it just keeps asking for password when it is installed
10:41 dokma uschi mate
10:41 dokma how are you doing?
10:53 pulponair is there a way to prevent ADODB/dbal from using ansi quoted literals?
10:54 FloLeBlanc We just launched our new t3 driven site and I want to thank all of you for the great support!
10:56 FloLeBlanc Thank you Jigal, Uschi, Pulp, Dax, tobi, just2b, eeos, koomi, boonkerz and all I forgot :)
10:56 eeos FloLeBlanc: point us to the site!
10:56 FloLeBlanc http://www.billardcafe.at/
10:58 eeos campletely off topic: the new mandriva 2007 spring is out, cannot wait to test it
10:58 dax77 FloLeBlanc: did you finally make it?
10:58 eeos FloLeBlanc: now that it is finished it looks really amazing
10:58 FloLeBlanc dax77: yes :)
10:59 dax77 cool :) congratulations
10:59 FloLeBlanc thank you
11:03 beev0r hey i'm looking for a extension where i can assign different predefined classes to particular content elements. any idea?
11:03 beev0r i.e: i choose content element text, then i get some checkboxes "[ ] red [ ] blue [ ] large [ ] small"
11:04 uschi congrats FloLeBlanc :)
11:04 beev0r and on my page i get something like "<div class="red large">content goes here ...</div>"
11:05 Fanty how do I set the default value of the type of the title fields on content elements to "hidden" for a specific extension?
11:07 FloLeBlanc hmm... if I want to delete some pages the crawler indexed before a certain date is that possible?
11:07 FloLeBlanc (there are my old links in the search)
11:08 tobi FloLeBlanc: do redirects with realurl, so you keep your search engine position
11:09 tobi you can find it in info module when selecting speaking url management/unique aliases
11:09 FloLeBlanc tobi? hmm? it also links page content that is no more there :)
11:09 tobi so 301 redirect them to the startpage, helps a lot FloLeBlanc
11:09 Phlogiston_ when I create a normal content element: images with text the images are not clickable, how can I change that?
11:11 Phlogiston_ ah I saw it, click enlarge ;)
11:12 eeos tobi: that is clever
11:12 tobi thats what all seo do eeos, never loose linkpower or indexed pages!
11:13 eeos seo?
11:14 tobi search engine optimization (spamming)
11:21 Fanty anyone have any examples of defaulting TCEforms to something using TS?
11:21 Fanty defaulting fields in TCEforms*
11:33 bruno32 hallöle
11:34 bruno32 kann mir jemand sagen, wie man in typo3 tabellen mit cellspacing definieren kann?
11:34 bruno32 wohlgemerkt ohne html zo coden
11:34 bruno32 zu
11:34 pulponair bruno32: english please
11:35 bruno32 hello could somebody tell me how to make tables in typo3 which have cellspacing?
11:35 bruno32 i don't want to use html
11:36 uschi why do you want to use cellspacing? this can be done via css, or no, ie6 has a bug there
11:36 bruno32 it's not for me its for a customer
11:36 bruno32 and he can't use css or html
11:37 uschi bruno32, do you want to produce tables via RTE or the CE Table?
11:37 bruno32 RTE
11:37 uschi there is an attribute setting for that, switch your rte to demo-mode, then you will see the possibilities with tables
11:39 bruno32 ok i am in editor
11:39 bruno32 where is the attribute?
11:39 uschi you see the table buttons?
11:41 d|g where i can find example of .htaccess for typo3 installation located in a subdirectory of the website root?
11:41 bruno32 add table and border switch (or what it mean in englisch i have the german version)
11:42 uschi yes
11:42 uschi add a table
11:43 uschi there you have the fields for cellspacing and cellpadding
11:45 bruno32 ok i will test
11:45 bruno32 hmm
11:46 uschi hmm what?
11:46 bruno32 i only have to edit fields for rows and cols
11:46 d|g ...i have a problem with simulateStaticDocuments
11:49 bruno32 there are no fileds for cellspacing
11:49 dokma uschi hows user reg?
11:49 dokma I'm done
11:50 eeos_ does anyone remember the TS line for hashing the emails on a website?
11:50 dokma had to apply both patches on that page u sent to get it working
11:50 uschi did not do a lot on in the last two hours, because i had craftsmen here who finished our new windows
11:50 dokma Now it's even working in Croatian
11:50 dokma I see
11:50 dokma I was sure the reason was too much chatting ;)
11:50 uschi thx for info, because i need it for a multilingual site
11:51 dokma Only thing I cannot get working is md5fepw
11:51 dokma had to remove it
11:51 uschi hm
11:51 dokma it kept asking me for password on the edit page if it was installed
11:52 uschi i shall try, and will keep you informed if i find a solution
11:52 dokma rgr that
11:52 uschi dokma, things with me are always taking longer, because i have to document all my steps
11:52 dokma you are working for someone?
11:52 dokma I am doing this for my own company so I'm free
11:52 dokma at last
11:53 bruno32 @uschi: i don't see the fields for cellspacing there are only cols and rows
11:53 uschi setting it up for our university
11:53 dokma I had a dream of having my own company since i was a kid
11:53 dokma I see
11:53 uschi bruno32, does your RTE run in demo mode or standard mode?
11:53 uschi find it out via the extManager, and switch to demo mode
11:53 bruno32 what is demo mode?
11:54 bruno32 ah ok
11:54 bruno32 i will do it
11:54 roelof does anyone know why this TS (http://phpfi.com/227719) do not work ?
11:54 uschi there you will see everything RTE can do for you
11:56 bruno32 hm, i can't find it where a can switch to demo mode :(
11:56 bruno32 ahh
11:56 uschi those of us who can read ;-)
11:57 bruno32 i see it
11:57 bruno32 "default configuration settings"
11:58 uschi yes :)
11:58 bruno32 under htmlarea RTE
11:58 uschi yes
11:58 bruno32 but the editor is in demo mode
11:58 uschi hmmmm
11:59 uschi which version, bruno32?
11:59 bauschan roelof: opening bracket always has to be the last char in line of the obj definition
11:59 bauschan not standalone like the closing bracket
12:00 bauschan 1.NO {
12:00 bruno32 4.0
12:00 uschi RTE i mean
12:00 bruno32 1.4.2
12:03 uschi bruno32, i do see them, so i do not know why you do not see them
12:04 roelof baushan, it work, is there a way this TS can be disabled for some pages ?
12:05 bruno32 yuo mean, if i click on "add table" then there are the editboxes for cellspacing and cellpadding?
12:05 uschi yes
12:06 uschi aehm, mind you, after you switched to demo-mode, you cleared your cache? including your browser-cache???
12:08 bruno32 yes
12:08 dokma 'forgot password' doesn't work either when md5fepw is installed
12:09 dokma it seems md5fepw is genuinely not compatible with typo3 >3.8
12:10 uschi ah, you are using 3.8
12:10 uschi perhaps you should upgrade then, dokma?
12:11 uschi because kb_md5fepw ist a must have out of security reasons in my eyes
12:11 dokma no i use 4.0.2
12:11 dokma md5fepw is incompatible with typo3 > 3.8
12:11 uschi who says this?
12:11 dokma md5fepw
12:12 dokma running to lunch
12:12 dokma will be back
12:12 dokma poof
12:12 uschi i mean, i have it running under 4.1.1
12:12 dax77 wasn't 4.0.2 a buggy version?
12:13 uschi might have been, dax77
12:19 eeos back
12:38 bruno32 @uschi: in an other version of typo3 i've seen the feature, ok first it will ignore this
12:38 bruno32 thank you for your help
12:38 bruno32 bye
12:40 roelof excludeUidList
12:41 roelof nobody knows iif i can "disable" this TS (http://phpfi.com/227719) for some pages ??
12:42 Fanty roelof: you could make an extension template where you do lib.internalnav >
12:42 Fanty for those pages
12:43 roelof oke, thank you, Fanty
12:46 kraftb hi all !
12:47 uschi hey kraftb :)))))))
12:47 uschi you are the right one coming in here
12:47 kraftb i have a short css problem again in IE ... i have menu-items (ul/li) which have an background image on hover .... but when i move the mouse off off them it doesn't disappear
12:47 kraftb i come here cause i need help ... not to give help currently :)
12:47 kraftb i am full of work ....
12:48 kraftb and want to solve my problems quickly so the work decreases
12:48 uschi ok, would be a small question anyway, and i suppose you can answer with one word
12:48 muh-die-kuh did something change about the ts syntax for gmenus from 3.8 to 4.0?
12:48 kraftb go on ...
12:48 uschi where is the url, kraftb
12:48 kraftb wait ...
12:48 kraftb http://ikiwi.projects.think-open.at ... user/pass =
12:48 Phlogiston_ anyone knows how I can create a newsletter subscription, that stores the registred users in tt_address
12:49 kraftb demo / kiwi007
12:49 kraftb phlogiston: direct-mail subscription (fe_admin lib)
12:49 kraftb install the extension "directmail_subscription"
12:50 kraftb and follow the tutorial
12:50 uschi ah, i see what you mean, kraftb
12:51 kraftb wait
12:51 kraftb i guess it could have to do with the JS
12:51 bauschan hm, GLOBALS['SOBE'] wasn't that the session obj of a BE user ?
12:53 uschi kraftb, it could have to do with a missing <li> as well
12:58 uschi sorry, no, there is no missing <li> but only unclosed <input>-elements
13:00 dax77 kraftb: I'm getting many many errors
13:00 uschi me too, dax77
13:01 dax77 <input type="text" name="tx_kbshop_pi1[s]" value="" / class="search-field"> the "/"
13:01 kraftb ???
13:01 dax77 I guess fixing them will bring you closer to the solution
13:02 gerards morning all
13:02 uschi morning gerards
13:02 dax77 kraftb: firefox -> html validator
13:02 kraftb ok ... fixed that one
13:03 kraftb but it doesn't repair the hover :(
13:03 kraftb actually i do not really care about if the site validates or not ... it shall look ok :)
13:03 dax77 kraftb: there is also an issue with an <li>
13:03 uschi then you should validate your code
13:03 kraftb that wont fix it i guess
13:04 uschi dax77, that is solved after you close all the <input>-elements
13:04 kraftb most of the time when such IE bugs occur you have to simply add one css line and it works
13:04 uschi kraftb, it is important, because ie is very tricky with wrong html-code and css
13:04 dax77 line 1175 and 1176
13:04 kraftb they are closed ???
13:04 kraftb now
13:04 kraftb thera are 4 input elements
13:05 kraftb 2 buttons and 2 fields
13:05 kraftb the buttons where already closed before and the fields are now
13:05 kraftb but it doesn't change the situation
13:05 gerards this sounds interesting... what are they talking about? if someone has time to say...
13:05 kraftb http://ikiwi.projects.think-open.at ... user/pass =
13:05 kraftb demo / kiwi007
13:05 uschi line 1176 still warns about a missing <li>
13:06 kraftb uschi: are you looking at the start-page ?
13:06 kraftb i have no line 1176
13:06 uschi <br /><br /><span style="color: #bababa; font-size: 8px; font-weight: bold;">Copyright © 2007, iKiwi GmbH. All rights reserved.</span>hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiier</ul>
13:07 uschi fix that one
13:07 uschi yes i am on the startpage
13:09 kraftb this doesn
13:09 kraftb doesn't solve the problem either ...
13:09 uschi yes, but it is better to exclude such things immediately
13:13 kraftb now it work
13:13 kraftb works
13:13 kraftb i just gave the "not hovered" a tag an background-image: url(clear.gif) :)
13:13 kraftb damn ie --- i hate this crap
13:14 uschi hm, kraftb, it might have to do with png-format as well
13:14 uschi i cannot see errors in your css there
13:15 uschi but: if you use background-image on a in IE6 use a non transparent gif!
13:16 uschi kraftb, read me?
13:16 uschi and never ever use png
13:17 kraftb no matter ... it works now
13:17 kraftb does anyone have IE7 installed ?
13:17 uschi not sure, i can try to look
13:17 uschi i am never sure what is installed on which machine
13:18 kraftb in IE6 the bottom rounded corners do not look nice ...
13:18 kraftb are they ok on IE7 ?
13:18 uschi let me boot some other pc
13:19 Boonkerz yes it have rounded corner in ie7
13:19 uschi ok, then that is solved
13:19 uschi kraftb, what was the fault then?
13:19 Boonkerz but the corner have an other grey as the background
13:19 kraftb do the rounded corners look ok in IE 7
13:20 kraftb i mean in IE6 they are 1px to high
13:20 kraftb the bottom line goes over the corner you mean ?
13:20 Boonkerz wait i do a screenshot
13:21 kraftb thx !
13:21 kraftb is it possible to install IE6 & 7 without many tricks ?
13:21 Boonkerz i use ie7 on my pc and ie6 on an vm
13:21 kraftb ah ... ok ...
13:22 uschi you cannot have both
13:22 Boonkerz uschi, you can but with tricks
13:22 uschi there is a trick how you can do it, but then some things do not work
13:24 Boonkerz where i can upload it with no login?
13:24 uschi kraftb, read this: http://tredosoft.com/Multiple_IE
13:24 Boonkerz give it phpfi for files
13:24 Boonkerz :D
13:24 kraftb hmm ...
13:25 kraftb www.250kb.de
13:25 uschi but be warned, if you do a lot of js-stuff, some things might not work
13:25 uschi so i am told by my flatmate right now
13:26 kraftb ok ... i guess i will have a look at it somehwere else where i have IE7
13:26 kraftb my laptop which has IE7 installed is fuc*** up by some spam-sending virus
13:26 kraftb did i say that i hate IT now :)
13:26 uschi tomorrow i will have one here again, but not todaym kraftb
13:26 uschi no, not yet, kraftb, why?
13:27 EvilEd kraftb: use MacOS or Linux ;)
13:27 kraftb i use linux
13:27 uschi i hope you will not leave us here all alone
13:27 kraftb if i work
13:27 kraftb but any "normal" user uses IE and i have to make the pages work there
13:27 Boonkerz http://www.250kb.de/u/070418/j/9617b70e.jpg
13:27 uschi kraftb, is it true that kb_md5fepw does not work with 4.1.1?
13:27 kraftb uschi: in recent time i came to the conclusion that IT is senseless .... we make IT projects for other IT projects to work better
13:27 kraftb it makes no sense at alll
13:28 kraftb you can use IT to speed up your work .... but making IT for IT is like a rat biting in its own tail
13:28 uschi well i do it projects for people who can learn latin with them
13:29 Typo3Dude Hey guys, I'm making a new extension and have two tables.. In table2 I have a Database relation dropdown to the all Table1 authors.. but the list is not sorted alfabetically.. is there any way to sort them then shown in Table2 ?
13:29 Typo3Dude Did that make sense..? :s
13:30 dokma is upgrading from 4.0.2 to current worth the trouble?
13:30 uschi and you, with your work for t3, help me to help other people with learning latin
13:30 dokma t3d no sense
13:30 uschi it makes perfect sense
13:30 dokma are you trying to sort on mysql level?
13:30 delmonico still trying to fix this: I have users that are locked to the DRAFT workspace and they are not allowed to insert images via RTE
13:31 Typo3Dude No.. in the Backend.. think this way: I made a article extension.. in table1 I have all the authors.. table2 are the articles - In each article u have to chose a author from a dropdown.. this drop down is made up of persons in TAble1
13:32 Typo3Dude But the dropdown u can chose from is not sorted alfabetically.. can this be done?
13:32 dokma typo3dude well I suppose that list is displayed as it arrives from mysql
13:32 dokma so you can sort it on mysql level
13:32 eeos Typo3Dude: can you not do an ORDER BY fielldname DESC?
13:32 dokma exactly
13:33 Typo3Dude But can I mess with it? - It's a Typo3 BE.. a database element.. so I see all the labels and fields to fill out...
13:33 dokma are you the one who wrote the sql that pulls it out or did you fetch it from typo3?
13:33 eeos you actually only modify the sql statement Typo3Dude
13:34 dokma exactly
13:34 Typo3Dude 1 sec.. I'll show u what I mean
13:34 eeos Typo3Dude: phpfi.com the code if you can
13:35 dokma again
13:36 dokma is upgrading from 4.0.2 to current version of typo3 worth the trouble?
13:37 dokma any1 here ever upgraded?
13:37 dokma is it complicated, dabgerous?
13:40 Typo3Dude Shouldn't be.. u can use the install tool to reimport the old 4.0.2 db
13:40 tobi it is worth and its painless, 10 minutes maximal dokma
13:40 Typo3Dude And make it do the database changes if there's been any
13:40 dokma is it replace the source and a few chores in the be?
13:40 dokma or is there more to ir
13:40 dokma I just backed up
13:41 dokma I'm going to replace the source using symlinks
13:41 Typo3Dude http://www.myimghost.com/links/sample <- There's what I mean.. I want that dropdown to be sorted alfabetically..
13:41 Typo3Dude And it's a drop-down which is made up from a DB relation from another table
13:41 tobi just follow this one dokma: http://typo3.org/documentation/document-library/installation/doc_inst_upgr/1.0.0/view/4/3/
13:41 Ries Typo3Dude: can't you sort it on the DB level?
13:42 Typo3Dude Doesn't seem so.. U can make it sort a table out from a specific value.. ie. headers.. but when I make a DB relation to another table it doesn't do it :/
13:44 Typo3Dude I use kickstarter btw.?
13:44 Typo3Dude Donno if it makes a difference...
13:45 elbart hi
13:45 Typo3Dude in ext_tables it does have: "default_sortby" => "ORDER BY name",
13:53 Ries Typo3Dude: SQL is SQL, it sould really sort when you order it to do...
13:54 gerards uschi: you there?
13:55 dokma got two boats on a river instead a guy building stuff from blocks ;)
13:55 dokma it was easy
13:56 Phlogiston_ how would you include a flash banner in TS? Just with a TEXT object? I would like to have a fallback banner image behind that flash, that will be shown if someone has no flash installed...
13:56 dokma my update wizard failed to update my [SYS][compat_version]
13:56 dokma it is still on 4.0
13:56 dokma what should I put there?
13:57 dokma 4.1 or 4.1.1?
13:57 dokma or nothing?
13:57 tobi 4.1.1
13:57 tobi but do it with the install too
13:57 tobi l
13:57 tobi change combatibility version or similar it is called
13:58 dokma doesnt update wizard do that?
13:58 dokma aahhh it's good now
13:58 dokma I've made a small error with using it
13:59 dokma actually I did not
13:59 dokma it is still at 4.0
13:59 dokma it says it updated but it did not
13:59 dokma probably permissions
14:00 dokma haha~
14:00 dokma I just found a bug
14:00 dokma look at this
14:00 dokma $TYPO3_CONF_VARS["SYS"]["compat_version"] = '4.1'; // Modified or inserted by TYPO3 Install Tool.
14:00 dokma $TYPO3_CONF_VARS['SYS']['compat_version'] = '4.0'; // Modified or inserted by TYPO3 Install Tool.
14:01 dokma it puts the new value before the old one
14:01 dokma into localconf.php
14:01 tobi strange, but easy to correct by hand ;)
14:01 tobi got to go, cu
14:01 dokma no wonder it does not work
14:01 dokma true
14:01 dokma but I must report it
14:05 max_muetze hello, is it possible to use ab_linklist twice or more in my t3-site-trees?
14:08 Guschtel I have a problem with tt_news (search, singleview and list work fine) but when i display the archive (amenu) i only get a list of months, and when i click on a month nothing happens - does anyone know a solution to this?
14:11 Phlogiston_ I'm trying to set up Email Address Subscription, but it stores new registred users as website users and not tt_address, although in they manual they talk about tt_address. But I couldn't find anything specific, how to change that....
14:20 dokma be page tree looks different in t3 4.1.1
14:20 dokma any way to get the old one back?
14:20 bauschan got to go, cu all
14:21 dokma adio
14:27 pulponair anyone ever used greytree?
14:27 pulponair graytree i meant
14:31 Phlogiston_ is there a possibilty to set a typo3 site in maintenance mode?
14:33 ks suddenly i've got this error: "The requested page didn't have a proper connection to the tree-root! "
14:33 ks it's for page of shortcut type
14:34 pulponair no one regarding graytree?
14:36 fummeltrine ks: check the shortcut destination
14:41 ks fummeltrine it's empty
14:41 ks i've checked "Shortcut to page:" field
14:42 fummeltrine then either select a destination or set "first subpage" or sth.
14:43 dokma uschi
14:44 dokma md5fpew still a problem for sr_feuser_register
14:44 dokma can't get it to work with 4.1.1 either
14:44 j0hndeere Good morning, earth humans.
14:44 dokma morning
14:45 ks morning, earth-moving equpment :)
14:45 j0hndeere How are we?
14:46 ks still alive
15:00 [666] hi there
15:00 zatmania hi [666]
15:00 [666] how can i set the language in selfregister plugin ?
15:00 [666] hi zatmania :)
15:01 eeos hi zatmania
15:01 zatmania hi eeos
15:02 [666] tryed to use the config vars in ts template, but that doesnt work
15:02 [666] any suggestions ?
15:09 [666] cant be ?
15:09 [666] noone?
15:18 [666] can anyone explain what this means ? : ISO alpha-2 code of the default selected language in drop-down selector from staticinfotables ?
15:18 koomi [666]: de or en would be 2 letter
15:18 [666] koomi: i'll give it a try
15:19 [666] hmmm nope still english
15:20 [666] and i have installed the static_info_tables_de
15:20 [666] but i cant swith the language
15:26 [666] tryping to change the language in sr_feuser_register ? can anyone help me ?
15:28 Remowylliams Hello everyone, question, when you use a external link does typo3 cache the link?
15:28 Zat[FarFarAwAy] his your site use multi language ?
15:28 Remowylliams err External URL
15:28 [666] no no mutli language
15:29 Zat[FarFarAwAy] so must go
15:29 Zat[FarFarAwAy] bye
15:29 [666] bye zat
15:30 dokma 666 I'd help you if you had a decent nick
15:30 dokma just finished configuring it
15:31 dokma works like a charm
15:31 [666] find 4 you
15:31 [666] -d
15:31 [666] +e :)
15:31 dokma it sure is
15:33 [666] tryping to change the language in sr_feuser_register ? can anyone help me ?
15:34 aho i need menu items like... <a href="...">text<span class="text"></a> where the class of the text equals the link text. is there some kind of variable to get that text?
15:35 dokma all you need is a wrap like this : | <span class="text"> | </span>
15:35 dokma 666 check this out: http://www.spiritlessons.com/
15:35 aho the class of that span depends on the link text
15:35 dokma perhaps you wont find your nick so funny no more
15:36 aho eg <a href="...">about<span class="about"></a>
15:36 aho (i need different classes for the span there... for each link)
15:37 [666] dokma: maybe next year , thanks
15:37 aho even numbers or something unique would be alright
15:37 dokma maybe
15:37 dokma if you and I are alive
15:39 [666] ok lets meet 18.4.2008 at 5.40 pm and we will see :P
15:49 deViL` /away wech
15:49 deViL` oop
15:50 dax77 hi there :)
15:50 [666] hi dax
16:45 aho mh. alright... i managed to get some unique class via the stuff over in this snippet: http://www.typo3wizard.com/en/snippets/menus/menue-mit-eigener-css-klasse-fuer-die-untermenuepunkte.html#c477
16:46 aho but i get something like <span><a>...</a></span> instead of <a>...<span></span></a> (which is what i need)
16:46 aho (the reason why i really really need that order is because IE <7 is unable to :hover anything than a-elements)
17:05 tchang Hello
17:06 tchang is it possible to make a condition on a constant ?
17:06 tchang like [globalVar = TSFE:id = {$my.constant}]
17:06 tchang ?
17:11 dokma how
17:12 dokma typo3 refuses including my style sheet
17:12 dokma I rechecked everything 5 times
17:12 dokma what could be a way to debug this
17:12 tchang dokma: do you use templavoila ?
17:12 dokma when I say refuses including i mean there is no link in the header
17:13 dokma no tv
17:13 dokma automaketemplaet
17:13 tchang oh... can't help then
17:13 dokma page.stylesheet = fileadmin/template/style.css
17:13 dokma tx
17:13 dokma any1 ?
17:14 dokma how would you go about finding out what is wrong?
17:14 bedlamhotel dokma: IF you have used one of TYPO3's 'PAGE' methods for including stylesheets, it will return nothing if the file does not exist at the path given.
17:15 dokma I am 100% percent certain it is there
17:15 bedlamhotel dokma: That may or may not be relevant.
17:15 dokma I see
17:15 dokma what would you do in my shoes?
17:15 tchang aren't you supposed to put your files in fileadmin/templateS
17:15 tchang ?
17:16 uschi no
17:16 dokma no
17:16 bedlamhotel Is the path anywhere where automaketemplate is going to work its magic on the path?
17:16 dokma with automaketemplate you can call it anyway you like
17:16 uschi they can be anywhere
17:16 dokma I have the standard
17:16 dokma # Configuring the Auto-Parser:
17:16 dokma plugin.tx_automaketemplate_pi1 {
17:16 dokma # Read the template file:
17:16 dokma content = FILE
17:16 dokma content.file = fileadmin/template/index.html
17:16 bedlamhotel dokma: not here!
17:16 dokma # Subpart wrapping
17:16 dokma elements {
17:17 dokma BODY.all = 1
17:17 dokma BODY.all.subpartMarker = DOCUMENT_BODY
17:17 dokma HEAD.all = 1
17:17 bedlamhotel for god's sake use phpfi!
17:17 dokma HEAD.all.subpartMarker = DOCUMENT_HEADER
17:17 dokma HEAD.rmTagSections = title
17:17 dokma TD.all = 1
17:17 dokma DIV.id.free = 1
17:17 tchang lol
17:17 dokma }
17:17 dokma # Prefix all relative paths:
17:17 dokma relPathPrefix = fileadmin/template/
17:17 dokma }
17:17 dokma argh
17:17 dokma sory
17:17 dokma forgot about that
17:18 dokma any idea?
17:18 dokma how would u debug it?
17:19 bedlamhotel dokma: me? I've never been terribly impressed by the whole automaketemplate business. I've always used TS without that extension or TV.
17:19 bedlamhotel dokma: but in any case, you provided this relative path for your stylesheet:
17:19 bedlamhotel fileadmin/template/style.css
17:19 dokma yes
17:19 bedlamhotel AND, you've got "relPathPrefix = fileadmin/template/"
17:19 uschi aah, there is the bugger :)
17:20 bedlamhotel seems to me that TYPO3 is looking for a stylesheet at fileadmin/template/fileadmin/template/style.css...
17:20 dokma might be
17:20 dokma let me see
17:20 bedlamhotel try page.stylesheet = style.css
17:21 dokma just did
17:21 dokma cleared the caches
17:21 dokma no go
17:21 dokma however
17:21 dokma I have a bigger problem
17:21 uschi is there any output, dokma?
17:22 dokma watch this: HEAD.rmTagSections = title
17:22 dokma and I still get title tag from the template
17:22 dokma yes there is output
17:22 bedlamhotel dokma: try a non-relative (i.e. absolute) path: page.stylesheet = http://domain.tld/fileadmin/style.css
17:22 dokma the entire template is output as is
17:22 dokma no modifications
17:22 dokma I think automaktetemplate got somehow messed up
17:22 dokma will try to reinstal it
17:22 bedlamhotel dokma: seems probably.
17:23 bedlamhotel probably = probable
17:23 bedlamhotel dokma: reinstalling it will do NOTHING.
17:23 dokma really?
17:23 bedlamhotel installing/removing an extension adds/removes the extension key to a list in localconf.php.
17:23 dokma what does reinstalling do?
17:23 dokma argh
17:23 dokma how do I get it reset properly?
17:24 bedlamhotel Your TS is probably just messed up somehow. Just create a new version of your template.
17:24 dokma will try that
17:35 dokma the stupidest error ever
17:35 dokma as I was refreshing I got redirected directly to the template
17:36 dokma and was constantly refreshing the template
17:36 dokma who knows how long ago we fixed it
17:36 dokma tx everyone
17:36 bedlamhotel *L*
17:36 bedlamhotel dokma: does that mean it works?
17:36 dokma yes it does
17:36 dokma now it's fine
18:18 aho if i want to use <a...>...<span...></span></a> links in the menu i have to use itemArrayProcFunc and custom php code?
18:20 bedlamhotel aho: no.
18:21 aho and the alternative?
18:22 bedlamhotel stdWrap.wrap ought to do it.
18:22 bedlamhotel http://typo3.org/documentation/document-library/references/doc_core_tsref/4.0.0/view/10/8/
18:23 bedlamhotel in tmenuitem, the note with .stdWrap says "stdWrap to the link-text!"
18:23 bedlamhotel ...the important bit being 'link-text'...
18:24 aho ye, i saw that
18:26 aho http://phpfi.com/227812
18:26 aho looks like that right now
18:27 aho everything i tried so far didnt work... is there some option to display errors?
18:35 bedlamhotel aho: the TS you posted is entirely meaningless.
18:35 bedlamhotel sorry, it might just be that I'm blind.
18:36 bedlamhotel we have discussed this here before :)
18:36 aho how so? it's the piece that generates the menu
18:36 aho and it's that piece, i need to change
18:38 bedlamhotel get rid of the 'insertData' bit and try "allWrap.dataWrap = <li class="menu1-level1-no">|<span class="menuitem{field:title}"></span></li>"
18:39 bedlamhotel May I ask why you want an empty span element to follow the link?
18:40 aho <a>....<span></span></a>
18:40 aho <aho> (the reason why i really really need that order is because IE <7 is unable to :hover anything than a-elements)
18:40 aho it's for changing some icons... which are over at some other place
18:41 bedlamhotel Your TS had the '|' in the wrong place then...you've got it between the <li> and the OPENING <a ... > tag...
18:41 aho something similar to: http://meyerweb.com/eric/css/edge/popups/demo.html
18:42 aho <aho> and it's that piece, i need to change
18:42 aho *shrug*
18:42 aho if it would work perfectly already, i wouldnt ask here, right?
18:43 ks is there a way to test typo3 shortcuts ? i have 3000+ pages to check
18:44 bedlamhotel aho: You could do it by building the link yourself instead of relying on the automatic link. One second, I will put a sample at phpfi.
18:54 uschi hm, i am stuck
18:54 uschi something went wrong
18:55 aho story of my life
18:55 aho :_
18:55 uschi in step 4 of the configuration steps of sr_feuser_register i am asked to insert first a newloginbox
18:55 j0hndeere something went wrong meaning... ah
18:55 j0hndeere 'something went wrong' can sometimes mean something like 'my kitchen is on fire'
18:55 uschi and second a ce plugin sr_feuser_register
18:55 uschi the extension is installed, but does not show up in my list of plugins, what is wrong here
18:56 uschi j0hndeere, i will burn the t3docs but not my kitchen :)
18:57 uschi i am simply blind, that is what went wrong
18:57 j0hndeere TYPO3 doesn't ercognize your plugin, uschi?
18:57 uschi sebkur :))))))))))))))))))))
18:57 uschi no, it is there
18:57 j0hndeere *recognize
18:58 j0hndeere that's a sign it's time for a 15 minute break :)
18:58 uschi sebkur, i have an urgent question
18:58 j0hndeere The human cornea can only take so much coding at a stretch, don't you know.
19:01 avagraphique anyone have experience wih da_newsletter_subscription extension
19:01 avagraphique local attributes arent showing up in the BE module
19:01 avagraphique the manual doesnt say anything about having to enable them in pageTS or anything
19:02 wilz hi!
19:03 wilz I'd like to use |*| to split 10.conf.tt_content.stdWrap.dataWrap in first, middle and last parts
19:03 wilz it doesn't work, any idea how to get it working ?
19:05 bedlamhotel aho: sorry, got called to a meeting. Try this (tested) TS: http://phpfi.com/227825
19:05 aho heh... that looks weird
19:05 aho ty bedlamhotel
19:06 aho got it almost working with: http://phpfi.com/227826
19:06 aho but the menuitem{field:title} thing isnt replaced... mh
19:08 bedlamhotel well aho, now what I said before is true: your TS is partly nonsensical. linkWrap does NOT have .stdWrap properties, and therefore 'insertData' makes no sense where you've put it.
19:08 aho ye... that insertData thing doesnt work (as i just said) :>
19:09 uschi with newloginbox there is a problem
19:10 uschi if i activate the password forgotten feature
19:10 bedlamhotel aho: it CANNOT work where you've put it. It is very important not to simply guess when building TS--you will never guess correctly :)
19:10 uschi i enter my email and all i get is my username *sniff*
19:10 bedlamhotel aho: also, I guess this is not working either: "allStdWrap.linkWrap=<foo>|</foo>"
19:10 aho oh... thats a leftover thing
19:11 aho why doesnt it display errors?
19:11 bedlamhotel aho: but it illustrates the same point: .stdWrap does not have a property names linkWrap.
19:11 aho blindly stabbing around doesnt seem very productive
19:11 bedlamhotel Why no errors? Do /you/ want to rewrite the TS parser? :-s
19:11 aho well, the documentation is worse than python's
19:12 aho no.
19:12 aho but it should display errors... if there are any
19:12 aho it's the first language i've seen where you don't even get a hint if you did something stupid
19:13 bedlamhotel aho: TS is not something that gets executed, it's a big php array. The various functions look for correctly named array indices. If they're found, something gets done. If they're not found nothing does.
19:13 aho well, they could just mention that they aren't found...
19:13 uschi what do you want to achieve, aho?
19:14 aho <a...>...<span></span></a>
19:14 aho where the span's class should be something unique
19:15 aho it works right now... apart from that... replacing menuitem{field:title} with something meaningfull
19:15 bedlamhotel aho: my example WORKS. Why not try it? Just add something like class="x_{field:uid}" to the last dataWrap...
19:16 aho ye.. i'll try it ;)
19:16 bedlamhotel aho: just change field names to suit where you're getting the data from.
19:17 bedlamhotel aho: updated: http://phpfi.com/227829
19:17 bedlamhotel now the span will get a class like class="x_234" where '234' is the contents of the relevant page's uid field.
19:18 uschi can someone point me to the right direction?
19:18 uschi please?
19:18 uschi what can be the problem with the password
19:18 uschi mind you, i have installed kb_md5fepw
19:18 bedlamhotel uschi: sorry. I've hated the newloginbox extension since it was new :) I always use the standard login box.
19:19 uschi yes but i want this forgot password feature
19:20 aho bedlamhotel, works perfectly
19:20 aho you rock
19:20 aho ;)
19:22 bedlamhotel aho: good :)
19:24 solshark hello all. How can i show news count in each category in CATMENU mode? (tt_news ext)
19:27 bedlamhotel uschi: still there?
19:27 uschi yes
19:28 uschi why?
19:28 bedlamhotel I just tried the newloginbox password thingy on a /working/ sr_feuser_register site: it works exactly as intended... I did absolutely nothing but install the extension and add the plugin to a page...
19:29 uschi with or without kb_md5fepw?
19:29 bedlamhotel it shows the email address it's sent the message to, and the email message it sends is like this:
19:29 bedlamhotel Hi (obscured mail address)
19:29 bedlamhotel Your username is "foo"
19:29 bedlamhotel Your password is "bar"
19:30 bedlamhotel without.
19:30 uschi this might be the problem, so i shall check the docs of kb_md5fepw
19:30 uschi i cannot have those passwords stored in plaintext in the database
19:31 bedlamhotel It occurs to me that if that extension simply changes things so that the password is stored as an md5 hash of the actual value that there is no opportunity to retrieve the value...
19:31 bedlamhotel ...since you can't un-md5 something...
19:31 uschi or is there another trick to avoid this
19:31 bedlamhotel you can encrypt and decrypt something, but md5 hash is effectively one-way.
19:31 uschi i think it creates a new password instead
19:31 uschi i know
19:31 bedlamhotel Ah.
19:31 bedlamhotel I know nothing about this extension, so...
19:32 uschi i do find this important
19:33 bedlamhotel You're worried about the actual database, or about ordinary BE users being able to SEE them in forms etc?
19:33 solshark Peoples, how can i correct get count of news in category and add this value to category title in CATMENU mode (tt_newx ext). Can you show me any example of query to DB via standart typo3 api?
19:34 uschi i am worried about the security if passwords are stored in plaintext in the db!
19:34 uschi this is a security risk number one
19:34 uschi i know, because on of our server got hacked
19:35 bedlamhotel true, though fe-user has little power over the system as a whole...plus, if your server is hacked, all the hacker needs to do is set the install tool up and he can have a) full admin access to typo3, full database info in a nice, neat form...
19:36 uschi yes, but in case you need to use something like simulatebeuser
19:36 uschi not a good idea to have those passwords like this
19:37 bedlamhotel True enough.
19:45 dokma i forgot the syntax of the option split
19:46 dokma || separates single elements
19:46 dokma which one separates sections?
19:46 dokma basically I want to make last element have different wrap
19:52 j0hndeere my keyboard is borked
19:52 j0hndeere it only types asterisks for passwords
20:02 bedlamhotel j0hndeere: that's a memory aid. Can you imagine how difficult it would be to remember passwords /made of different letters, numbers and analphabetic characters/?!
20:04 wilz any idea why this is not working http://rafb.net/p/vxG1CA56.html ?
20:36 tchang dokma: |*|
20:37 dokma thanks!
20:37 dokma I've found it
20:37 dokma it works great
20:40 dokma uschi
20:40 dokma kb_md5fepw ?
20:40 uschi ja, dokma? was ist damit
20:40 dokma I understand that one you punk :)
20:40 dokma kb_md5fepw works for you?
20:41 uschi the password forgotten does not work
20:41 dokma it does for me
20:41 dokma let's swap ts
20:41 dokma I upgraded to 4.1.1
20:41 uschi what, tell me
20:41 uschi ok, and then?
20:42 uschi with kb_md5fepw?
20:42 dokma You'll see my ts Ill see yours and we can see what might be the issue
20:42 dokma I can't roll kb_md5fepw
20:42 dokma you can't roll pass forgoten
20:42 dokma so we might be able to solve each others problems
20:43 uschi yes true, but i am only half way through the whole thing, so i did not do any ts or at least not a lot
20:43 uschi normal login works for me
20:43 uschi show me your ts, please
20:44 uschi because i did not configure newloginbox properly yet
20:44 uschi i might have missed something
20:44 dokma http://phpfi.com/227864
20:44 dokma plus those 2 patches you showed me
20:44 dokma they were cardinal
20:44 dokma for the profile editing
20:46 dokma I hacked my newloginbox to skip the login successful message
20:46 dokma you interested?
20:46 uschi yes
20:46 uschi definitely
20:47 uschi i think, the problem is, that the password thing does not work because of kb_md5fepw
20:47 uschi going to the bugtracker again *sigh*
20:47 dokma if ($logintype == 'login' && $this->conf['skipSuccess'] != '1') {
20:48 dokma # Patched class.tx_newloginbox_pi1.php:178 to enable success message
20:48 dokma plugin.tx_newloginbox_pi1.skipSuccess = 1
20:48 uschi hm
20:48 dokma uschi you are right
20:48 dokma kb_md5fepw kills pass fogot feature
20:48 uschi needs to be fixed then
20:49 dokma it also kills registering and profile editing
20:49 dokma it sure does
20:49 dokma however the extension itself does claim it is not compatible with typo3 > 3.8
20:49 uschi shit, i do not want my passwords in plaintext in the db
20:49 uschi i shall ask kraftb to fix it
20:50 dokma who is he?
20:50 dokma is he the kb in kb_md5fepw
20:52 uschi yes
20:52 uschi he was here this afternoon, but in a hurry with a css-prob
20:53 dokma rgr
20:53 dokma I am setting up to write an extension
20:53 dokma I've got an license question
20:53 dokma If I write an extension am I forced to publish it and GPL it?
20:54 dokma because I would like to write it as a commercial software for my company
20:54 bedlamhotel hey dokma and uschi: again, I don't know for sure, but judging from the description in the sr_feuser_register manual, the password gets hashed... (useMd5Password: Note: If set and if extension kb_md5fepw is installed, passwords will be encrypted)...
20:55 dokma bedlamhotel I noticed that when md5fepw is installed
20:55 bedlamhotel if so, then the password /is not available/ to BE recovered...
20:55 uschi hm, but the forgot password feature is part of newloginbox or not?
20:55 dokma and I hit some submit
20:55 dokma in some form with password
20:55 dokma just before the page goes away
20:55 dokma the password field
20:55 bedlamhotel uschi: irrlevant I think--as long as password is still in the same table
20:55 dokma gets filled with *
20:55 dokma it is probably the password being modified within
20:56 dokma the field itself
20:56 dokma so I guess it gets encrypted using javascript or something ?
20:56 dokma what else?
20:56 bedlamhotel It sounds like a) the password is getting md5-hashed--permanently!--in the db, and then hashed when sent.
20:57 dokma you think it gets hashed twice?
20:57 bedlamhotel The solution to the problem is trickier than all of this. There would have to be proper (reversible) encryption set up for the password...
20:57 dokma why?
20:57 dokma you can have hashes in the db
20:57 bedlamhotel dokma: no. I think it's stored as a hash in the db and converted to md5 hash before or when it's sent.
20:57 dokma and compare hashes to hashes
20:57 uschi no, not neccessarily, because it builds a new password
20:57 dokma but then you cant have pass fogot naturally
20:58 bedlamhotel dokma: what use is a hash to someone trying to recover a password?
20:58 uschi you can, by building a new password
20:58 bedlamhotel uschi: /where/?
20:58 dokma gotta go
20:58 dokma prayer is starting here
20:58 dokma roomies waiting
20:58 uschi having a look at the code now
20:58 dokma I'll be back
20:58 bedlamhotel uschi: You mean just by resetting the password instead of recovering it?
20:58 uschi yes
20:58 bedlamhotel ...probably the easiest solution.
20:59 bedlamhotel But is it already present?
20:59 uschi this is what is said in docs of kb_md5fepw
20:59 bedlamhotel ah. But newloginbox is not smart enough to take advantage then?
20:59 uschi obviously
21:00 rabauke hello! Can somebody help me with if clauses? I want to put author and date into a variable if both are true.
21:03 rabauke in TsRef I can only find examples that deal with one isTrue
21:04 uschi there is something negate = 1
21:06 Awillys any Typo3 installation optimization guru around?
21:07 uschi shit, it works, it was only this bloody e-mail client of our university, the html-form, that has hidden the new password, grumbles
21:07 uschi great
21:07 uschi 3 hours for nothing *grumbles*
21:08 bedlamhotel hey uschi: reading kb_md5fepw manual; did you install it /last/?
21:08 aho shit happens. *all* the time :)
21:08 uschi i can only read the new password when i switch off the css
21:08 uschi yes
21:08 bedlamhotel darn :)
21:08 uschi it works, at least for the password recovery
21:08 bedlamhotel just read that. Holy cow.
21:10 uschi well then, let us go on
21:11 Awillys Ries: around?
21:16 Ries Awillys: I am but not
21:16 Awillys lol
21:19 m00re hi
21:25 m00re i am planning to change an extension to fetch object data (data records in db) through ajax (using eID feature to be lightweight). unfortunately, I still want to be able to set content rendering options through TS (e.g. how images are resized, usage of gifbuilder etc...). is the access of the page ts setup possible at all? or do you think that passing the extension specific conf-array() as a string is a good idea (except that its not "clean")? would thi
21:41 dokma uschi
21:41 dokma uschiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii!!!!
21:41 bedlamhotel whoa. patience dokma, patience... :-s
21:41 uschi yes, did you read what i wrote above, dokma
21:42 dokma are you trying to say you got kb_md5fpew working ?
21:42 dokma just did
21:42 uschi yes
21:42 dokma does registration work?
21:42 uschi perfectly alright, as far as the password recovery is concerned
21:42 dokma did you do anything special to get it rolling?
21:42 uschi cannot tell you yet, now working on step 5
21:42 uschi no
21:43 dokma so how does the pass recovery work
21:43 uschi but i installed it AFTER everything else
21:43 dokma are passwords hashed in the db?
21:43 dokma I did too
21:43 dokma actually reinstalled
21:43 uschi it creates a new password and sends it to the email-address given
21:43 dokma perhaps I should delete it from server and reinstall fully?
21:43 dokma I see
21:44 uschi yes, perhaps this helps
21:44 dokma I'll try that to
21:47 dokma no go
21:47 uschi funny
21:47 dokma could you try yourself and see what happens?
21:48 dokma http://www.valdez.hr/prijava-korisnika/
21:48 dokma It just keeps asking for password
21:49 uschi aehm, dokma, but you set the config useMd5Password = 0 to 1, or not?
21:49 dokma I changed it back
21:49 dokma to test
21:49 dokma cleared caches
21:49 uschi ok, i will try it now
21:50 uschi shit, i cannot read the form *g*
21:50 dokma just fill the red dots :)
21:50 dokma cummon now croatian is a world renown language
21:51 dokma everyone should know it
21:51 dokma note how the password field gets a pile of stars and the repeat password field goes blank
21:54 bedlamhotel dokma: aha. Are you the user from Croatia that I've seen in my stats?
21:55 dokma shame on you
21:55 dokma that is general culture
21:55 uschi hm, does not work
21:55 dokma lol
21:55 uschi *L*
21:56 uschi i just love this channel a lot
21:56 dokma I'm reading the javascript sources to see what in fact they do
21:56 uschi what about this hook:
21:56 uschi $TYPO3_CONF_VARS['TYPO3_CONF_VARS']['EXTCONF']['newloginbox']['loginFormOnSubmitFuncs']
21:57 uschi there is something wrong
21:58 uschi dokma
21:58 dokma I think I found my error
21:58 dokma uschi
21:58 uschi a fe-user who is already there
21:58 dokma field names don't match
21:58 uschi can he log in
21:58 dokma no
21:59 dokma naturally because the js functions are not properly connected to the form
21:59 dokma field names in the form and the js functions do not match
21:59 uschi hmmmm
21:59 dokma did you modify the templates of the user register form ?
21:59 uschi no, not yet
21:59 dokma watch this
22:00 dokma argh
22:00 dokma I've found the error
22:00 dokma it's very tricky one
22:01 dokma I inserted newloginbox via RECORDS object into the upper right corner as you saw uschi
22:01 uschi yes
22:01 dokma however the newloginbox has a password field
22:01 uschi yes
22:01 dokma and md5fepw js got hooked onto that password field
22:02 uschi ok
22:02 dokma so the user registration field which also has a password field
22:02 dokma did not get hooked
22:02 dokma it must be somewhere there
22:02 uschi hm
22:02 dokma if you read the source with the js embeded you can see this quite easily
22:02 dokma have you got web developer extension for firefox?
22:03 uschi yes, sure
22:03 bedlamhotel dokma: I admit to not following this matter closely, but why insert newloginbox with RECORDS cObject?
22:03 dokma so you can go to that page again and 'view source -> view generated source'
22:03 bedlamhotel ...it's unusual to do so with an ordinary plugin...
22:03 dokma and compare password field names and js script form names
22:04 dokma it was the easiest way for me to have newloginbox in a sysfolder I called 'special elements'
22:04 uschi bedlamhotel i suppose he wants to have it on every page
22:04 dokma and then insert it to every page via RECORDS
22:04 dokma works really great
22:05 dokma but in this case it seems to have messed with my md5 extension
22:05 dokma Ill remove the newloginbox and see what happens
22:08 dokma nope
22:08 dokma thats not it
22:08 uschi let me go on and finish the basic stuff and then let us see, what happens to my code
22:17 bedlamhotel sorry uschi and dokma: usual way of adding plugin output to every page is something more like "lib.foo < plugin.tx_foo_bar"
22:18 dokma bedlamhotel how do you access its flexform that way?
22:19 bedlamhotel dokma: you anticipated my question :)
22:19 dokma my login box is in a sysfolder and I can access its flexform configuration
22:19 dokma pretty neat
22:19 bedlamhotel dokma: the only real reason to use RECORDS is /if/ you need a gui to adjust the plugin's TS properties--and this only usually happens if they will be changing frequently.
22:20 bedlamhotel usually flexform properties and TS properties are identical.
22:20 dokma true
22:20 bedlamhotel so if you had lib.foo < plugin.tx_foo_bar,
22:20 dokma but I just kind off like to see my login box sitting there in my sys folder
22:20 bedlamhotel you could just assign properties like this: "lib.foo.fubar = 1"
22:21 dokma true
22:21 bedlamhotel Well, if you like it then keep it, but records is a relatively complex way of doing the same thing...
22:21 dokma but it does reduce my ts to 3 lines
22:22 dokma for newloginbox
22:22 dokma and that is also a way I would add footer to each page
22:22 dokma how would you do that?
22:26 bedlamhotel dokma: depends.
22:27 dokma I don't understand this js: var pass = form['FE[fe_users][password]'].value;
22:27 bedlamhotel If the footer actually contains /content/ I would do what you're doing. Otherwise--if, e.g., the footer contains only navigation and an email address, etc, I would just use TS.
22:27 dokma where is the field FE[fe_users][password] in the user registration field?
22:27 dokma how does this work?
22:28 dokma I see
22:28 dokma thanks
22:29 dokma anyone knows how long are md5 hashes?
22:29 dokma maybee I limited my password fields too much?
22:29 uschi 32
22:30 dokma I put 40 for password length for that reason only
22:31 bedlamhotel dokma: being somewhat paranoid, I have also been known to put /backup/ content in TS and override it with a RECORDS cObject in case users delete the footer content element (since if they can edit it they can delete it...)
22:31 Ries Awillys: ?
22:34 gerards bedlamhotel: that IS paranoid. doesn't syslog do the same thing?
22:42 bedlamhotel gerards: syslog doesn't tell me when users have deleted an important content element and not noticed for 3 months... :D
22:43 uschi yeah that is a shit, that you cannot say they are allowed to edit but not to delete
22:43 uschi is unix like this one
22:47 bedlamhotel uschi: It /does/ seem dumb, but really what is the difference? If users can edit content elements, they can erase all the contents even if they can't delete the corresponding database record...
22:48 uschi yes my dear, but when the have deleted the content of the CE the id is still there and it can be filled in again without you having to change your template :)
22:50 bedlamhotel Can also be undeleted from db *shrug* It's annoying one way or the other. Darned users...
23:26 null0_ ge
23:29 Schnoffos Hi
23:30 Schnoffos has someone managed to get typo running on a plain etch debian or ubuntu?
23:30 Schnoffos typo3 installation is a nightmare...
23:53 PaulLS hi all.. I'm hitting a bit of a roadblock getting a php script to generate html to insert into a page as a script object... (the way I'd think one would do it)
23:53 PaulLS I can't get the php script content to output... I'm new to this and am not sure if I'm using typoscript properly

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