| 00:12 |
gerards |
man.... psql import is taking such a long time... i'm getting worried... |
| 02:42 |
nsteele |
Hi, i am having a problem getting started. I have web66.com as a hosting company, and there is a area called fantastico in the cpanel menu. I used that to install TYPO3. When i go to mydomain.com/typo3 it just gives me a 500 error. |
| 04:10 |
d|g |
hi all |
| 04:10 |
gerards |
hi d|g |
| 04:10 |
d|g |
gerards hi |
| 04:11 |
gerards |
g'nite d|g. |
| 04:11 |
gerards |
:) |
| 04:11 |
d|g |
=) |
| 04:16 |
Rie1 |
gerards: did the import succeed now? |
| 04:17 |
gerards |
yep. |
| 04:17 |
gerards |
i can access the acc page. |
| 04:17 |
gerards |
but the IMAGE cobj still does not appear. |
| 04:17 |
gerards |
my imagemagick could be bad too... |
| 04:17 |
gerards |
I'll check it tomorrow. |
| 04:18 |
gerards |
if it can't be done, I'll just create a 80x80 gif, and don't use IM to resize. |
| 04:18 |
gerards |
and we can see why it doesn't work after Wednesday. |
| 04:19 |
gerards |
I'm going to watch tv now. :) |
| 04:19 |
gerards |
see ya! |
| 04:25 |
Rie1 |
watching TV?? |
| 04:26 |
Rie1 |
for god sake.... where ar ethe people that really want to work?!?!?! |
| 04:26 |
Rie1 |
I am odd to bed then!!! |
| 04:32 |
FloLeBlanc |
hi all |
| 06:01 |
tobi |
good morning @all |
| 06:11 |
marvi_ |
moin |
| 06:15 |
dax77 |
hi @all |
| 06:32 |
zatmania |
hi all |
| 06:37 |
bauschan |
hi @all ! |
| 06:37 |
dax77 |
Hi zatmania, hi bauschan |
| 06:40 |
zatmania |
hi bauschan, dax77 ! |
| 06:40 |
bauschan |
everybody fit from the weekend ? |
| 06:41 |
dax77 |
well, I guess - as usual |
| 06:41 |
bauschan |
not to bad ;) |
| 06:41 |
dax77 |
could have been longer |
| 06:42 |
tobi |
in italian i would say "la voglia mi salta adosso" which means translatet "the will (to to something) jumps on me" |
| 06:45 |
bauschan |
http://mail.google.com/mail/help/paper/more.html |
| 06:46 |
bauschan |
celebrate the April Fools day :) |
| 06:46 |
bauschan |
a bit late but ? |
| 06:50 |
dax77 |
bauschan: you got me ;) |
| 06:50 |
zatmania |
hi Jigal |
| 06:50 |
dax77 |
hi Jigal |
| 07:09 |
FloLeBlanc |
hi tobi, dax77, bauschan, zatmania, uschi, Jigal |
| 07:10 |
bauschan |
hi Flo ! |
| 07:10 |
uschi |
morning FloLeBlanc tobi, dax77, bauschan, zatmania, and Jigal and Denyerec |
| 07:11 |
zatmania |
hi uschi |
| 07:11 |
zatmania |
hi FloLeBlanc |
| 07:12 |
tobi |
good morning FloLeBlanc, uschi |
| 07:12 |
zatmania |
hi tobi |
| 07:12 |
tobi |
hi zatmania |
| 07:16 |
FloLeBlanc |
I have a user that is not able to upload, filemount is set to /pics in my template folder, anything I could have forgotten |
| 07:16 |
uschi |
the settings what he/she can do with files there, FloLeBlanc ? |
| 07:17 |
FloLeBlanc |
set the checkbox in file operations to Upload, copy, move, delete. etc |
| 07:17 |
uschi |
then i have no idea |
| 07:19 |
FloLeBlanc |
hmm ok thx |
| 07:19 |
uschi |
but FloLeBlanc i am not a specialist, just started to struggle with rights |
| 07:21 |
uschi |
FloLeBlanc there was something about settings in the install tool concerning files |
| 07:21 |
uschi |
but i cannot remember what it was |
| 07:22 |
FloLeBlanc |
ok I'll have a look at them thx |
| 07:50 |
Jigal |
em... hi all ;-) |
| 07:50 |
just2b |
hello |
| 07:58 |
FloLeBlanc |
any ideas on my file upload problem? |
| 07:58 |
FloLeBlanc |
I'm a bit stuck :) |
| 07:59 |
zatmania |
it can be the php.ini limitation |
| 08:00 |
uschi |
i do not have any idea, FloLeBlanc, i just do not understand the whole rights management at the moment |
| 08:00 |
Fanty |
how do I get my EM to work? I cant find crap using it.. |
| 08:00 |
uschi |
somehow, in my mind, there is a missing link |
| 08:01 |
Fanty |
and I'm getting real tired of having to look extensions up on TER manually on typo3.org |
| 08:02 |
FloLeBlanc |
uschi: just checked... my fault fileupload IS possible, but there is no search button in the RTE (for the user , there is one for the admin) |
| 08:03 |
uschi |
aah, good to know, then that is something that might be interesting for me |
| 08:04 |
FloLeBlanc |
hmm in the filelist I can seem to upload, copy and move.. but not to delete :) |
| 08:04 |
FloLeBlanc |
nvm |
| 08:04 |
FloLeBlanc |
is possible :) |
| 08:05 |
uschi |
nvm??? |
| 08:06 |
FloLeBlanc |
nvm = nevermind |
| 08:06 |
FloLeBlanc |
<-- lazy person |
| 08:06 |
uschi |
merci |
| 08:06 |
FloLeBlanc |
de rien :) |
| 08:07 |
FloLeBlanc |
So I narrowed the problem to: "I am unable to upload files via the RTE (fe when including an image) is there a default folder for the RTE which needs to be writable for the user? |
| 08:08 |
uschi |
yes, i suppose so, there is a special upload folder for the rte |
| 08:28 |
beev0r |
hey anyone an idea how i can inherit conditions like: [globalVar = TSFE:id=56] to all subpages? |
| 08:29 |
beev0r |
i need something like [globalVar = TSFE:id=56 OR TSFE:parent_id=56] |
| 08:30 |
tobi |
[PIDupinRootline=56] beev0r |
| 08:33 |
beev0r |
[PIDupinRootline=56] ? |
| 08:33 |
beev0r |
dont i need the globalVar = here? |
| 08:33 |
beev0r |
[globalVar = PIDupinRootline=56] ? |
| 08:33 |
beev0r |
just [PIDupinRootline=56]? |
| 08:33 |
beev0r |
i'm gonna try. thanks. |
| 08:34 |
tobi |
yes just [PIDupinRootline=56] |
| 08:34 |
beev0r |
and how do i tell the condition to end? [PIDupinRootline=56]stuff[global] ? |
| 08:34 |
tobi |
yes |
| 08:34 |
beev0r |
ok. thanks :) |
| 08:36 |
beev0r |
cool, works :) |
| 08:36 |
beev0r |
but |
| 08:37 |
beev0r |
i need the stuff on TSFE:56 as well. so how do i combine that? [globalVar = TSFE:id=56 OR PIDinRootline=56]. something like that? |
| 08:38 |
beev0r |
[PIDupinRootline=39] |
| 08:38 |
beev0r |
page.10.marks.HEADER = HTML |
| 08:38 |
beev0r |
page.10.marks.HEADER.value = <img src="uploads/template/images/headerbild_columbus_control.jpg" alt="" /> |
| 08:38 |
beev0r |
[global] |
| 08:38 |
beev0r |
i need the header on the page with ID=39 and below |
| 08:39 |
beev0r |
5 months of typo3 and still totally dumb concerning typoscript ... |
| 08:46 |
beev0r |
ok. i found out ;) |
| 09:15 |
max_muetze |
hello again |
| 09:17 |
max_muetze |
i'd like to have a table like this "table test, layout1" - could this be done with the options of the basic table-content-tool of typo3? |
| 09:17 |
max_muetze |
http://www.demo-typo3.de/index.php?id=table |
| 09:17 |
max_muetze |
you can see the table on the site above |
| 09:17 |
Fanty |
anyway to let a page output XML? -- say every page except id=10 works normally. id=10 returns XML documents...? |
| 09:18 |
max_muetze |
Fanty: are you using a sitemap tool? |
| 09:19 |
Fanty |
max_muetze: nope, I need it to supply FE flash applications with configurations from the database |
| 09:20 |
max_muetze |
Fanty: i had this (xml-output) because of a hidden page configured with mc_googlesitemap.. |
| 09:20 |
Fanty |
keeping it in typo3 would let me keep the access to TSFE from the xmlfetcher function and give me all the fe user authentication typo3 offers |
| 09:21 |
Fanty |
max_muetze: how did you make this xml output? |
| 09:25 |
max_muetze |
Fanty: it was a fault... i only had this sitemap direct below a shortcut-page which directs to the first subpage... |
| 09:25 |
max_muetze |
and there was the sitemap so i ever got the xml-output.. |
| 09:26 |
Fanty |
inside the HTML page? |
| 09:26 |
max_muetze |
i don't think that this is what you need.. ;) |
| 09:26 |
max_muetze |
no, instead og |
| 09:26 |
max_muetze |
of |
| 09:26 |
Fanty |
I need to figure out how to generate an XML page instead of an HTML page... |
| 09:27 |
bauschan |
Fanty: maybe Ingmars xml_contentrendering |
| 09:27 |
bauschan |
serves your needs |
| 09:27 |
bauschan |
mainly pure TS |
| 09:27 |
bauschan |
based on the core rendering engine |
| 09:27 |
bauschan |
and works :) |
| 09:31 |
Fanty |
bauschan: seems promising .. thanks :) |
| 09:31 |
bauschan |
np |
| 09:32 |
Fanty |
disableAllHeaderCode <-- the magic TS config value ;) |
| 09:34 |
bauschan |
additionalHeaders <-- another one |
| 09:38 |
Fanty |
bauschan: hehe already knew that one :D |
| 09:38 |
Fanty |
How would mysql feel about storing images? |
| 09:41 |
max_muetze |
is it possible to have links in table-content-elements? |
| 09:52 |
Denyerec |
Fab1an-- |
| 09:52 |
Denyerec |
Grrr |
| 09:52 |
Denyerec |
Fanty |
| 09:52 |
Denyerec |
you can store images in BLOB fields |
| 09:52 |
Denyerec |
but depending on the number of files, I'd be wary of it. |
| 09:53 |
Fanty |
Denyerec: yea, I know.. I was more looking at the performance issues that would entail |
| 09:53 |
Denyerec |
FOr some reason I'm nervous about storing binary information in such a way, always seems more efficient to me to store the filename/path in the DB and the file on the filing system |
| 09:54 |
Fanty |
Problem with the files is that I need the mysql entries anyway to keep track of what files belongs to who... and keep people from looking at files that aren't theirs |
| 09:55 |
Fanty |
but I think the solution would be to have a script read the file from somewhere not accessible at all for webserver and pass it trough to the user - and keep the file info in mysql |
| 09:57 |
tobi |
Fanty: there are some extensions that do this with a .htaccess prepend file |
| 09:57 |
m4rtijn |
good morning all |
| 09:57 |
Fanty |
tobi: got a name? :) |
| 09:59 |
m4rtijn |
does anyone know what I should use if I want german in this ts? _LOCAL_LANG.[langkey].[labelkey] .. its for new login box.. fe user reg thingie |
| 09:59 |
m4rtijn |
langkey = de ? |
| 09:59 |
tobi |
hm there are quite some Fanty, just search for secure in the ter |
| 10:03 |
Denyerec |
Fanty I looked at an extension just the other day that did this |
| 10:03 |
Denyerec |
naw_securedl |
| 10:03 |
Denyerec |
that was it |
| 10:05 |
m4rtijn |
or maybe does anyone know how I can set the entire login box to a different language? |
| 10:14 |
pulponair |
hi there |
| 10:16 |
Denyerec |
lo pulp |
| 10:31 |
pulponair |
there is an interessting discussion about caching at t3dev right now... |
| 10:32 |
bauschan |
m4rtijn: config.language = de |
| 10:32 |
bauschan |
and |
| 10:32 |
bauschan |
plugin.tx_newloginbox_pi1._LOCAL_LANG.default {de} |
| 10:32 |
bauschan |
maybe also |
| 10:32 |
bauschan |
plugin.tx_newloginbox_pi3._LOCAL_LANG.default {de} |
| 10:34 |
m4rtijn |
thx baushan |
| 10:34 |
bauschan |
of course not in one line ;) |
| 10:34 |
bauschan |
better do |
| 10:35 |
bauschan |
plugin.tx_newloginbox_pi3._LOCAL_LANG.default = de |
| 10:36 |
m4rtijn |
in constants or in setup? |
| 10:36 |
bauschan |
setup |
| 10:37 |
m4rtijn |
thx again ;) |
| 10:37 |
bauschan |
np |
| 10:37 |
bauschan |
bauschan goes for lunch |
| 10:40 |
Jigal |
pulponair: about caching: the irritating part of it is that you can't predict really well how much caching of certain types of data will work with a particular site :-( |
| 10:41 |
pulponair |
jigal: sorry? could you rephrase? |
| 10:43 |
Jigal |
pulponair: you can use caching on different levels of the process of building a page from data. It really depends on the characteristics of a site how well a certain type of caching (caching of pages, content items, db queries, etc.) will help reduce the server load and the time it takes to generate a page. |
| 10:48 |
pulponair |
Jigal: oh yes right. Imho caching should be refactored completly |
| 10:48 |
pulponair |
Jigal: same to DB access ...(dont hit me ;) ) |
| 10:54 |
Jigal |
pulponair: there should be a general caching object/class/mechanism/whatever and extensions should be able to use it. Furthermore caching content items is rather efficient in general. Caching whole pages is something that often can't be done. General caching mechanism should have a configurable cache key (identifies a certain item in the cache) and configurable rules for checking if a cache item is still valid (age, hash, etc.) |
| 10:54 |
pulponair |
jigal: no way to archieve this without getting rid of pibase |
| 10:56 |
Jigal |
pulponair: if TYPO3 wants to support various DBMSs and not only MySQL the db access must be reformed drastically. Perhaps a new DAL would be a good solution and mark all current extensions as MySQL only, unless they use the new DBMS independant DAL? |
| 10:57 |
pulponair |
Jigal: right....TYPO3 db usage is rather odd... |
| 10:57 |
pulponair |
jigal: even if it would just support mysql the whole query/object thing needs to be abstracted and refactored ....atm every peace of code fires its own query which is horrible |
| 10:59 |
Jigal |
pulponair: it's horrible, but also very flexible. The only limit for the queries of my own extensions is my knowledge of MySQL ;-) |
| 10:59 |
pulponair |
jigal: not to mention those csv relations ;) |
| 10:59 |
pulponair |
jigal: yes right i wasnt talking about restricting sql queries but about unifying things |
| 11:00 |
pulponair |
jigal: at least for the most common items like pages/ces ...localization etc |
| 11:01 |
Jigal |
pulponair: if you unify the DAL, you have to restrict it to the features that are common to all supported DBMSs... |
| 11:01 |
max_muetze |
is it possible to have links in table-content-elements? |
| 11:01 |
pulponair |
jigal: sure but this would result in preventing users (i.e. extension devs) from fireing their own not unified querys |
| 11:04 |
m4rtijn |
hmm, in my login box template I have the following line: <!--###HEADER_VALID###--><h3>###STATUS_HEADER###</h3><!--###HEADER_VALID###--> does anyone know how I can make this invisible without deleting it fomr the template with typoscript? |
| 11:04 |
m4rtijn |
make it invisible with typoscript without deleting from the template* |
| 11:04 |
Jigal |
pulponair: unless a flag is used to indicate which DBMS an extension supports; if you really need the features of a single DBMS your extensions becomes brand 'x' only; if you manage with the unified set of features then you have a DB independant extensions... |
| 11:06 |
pulponair |
Jigal: yes something like this but to be honest: i think the need of dmbs depended featueres is very rare for common sites/projects. |
| 11:09 |
m4rtijn |
regarding my previous question.. maybe: listView.customProcessing.headervalid = false or smth? |
| 11:11 |
Jigal |
pulponair: but will those common sites need extra extensions? I can imagine a site that needs full text search in certain data, transactions (are those present in all supported DBs?). TYPO3 wants to be ultra-flexible, so leave an option open for db specific features. |
| 11:15 |
pulponair |
Jigal: yes but without proper database abstraction and querys shat all of the code it wouldnt be flexible at all ;) |
| 11:17 |
pulponair |
Jigal: anyway this discussion has been opened several times and ended up in something like "this is /is not t3 philosophy" ;) |
| 11:17 |
pulponair |
so i am out ;) |
| 11:18 |
Jigal |
pulponair: thnx; I really need to finish some other work ;-) |
| 11:21 |
pulponair |
Jigal: : same over here ;) |
| 11:31 |
andreasbalzer |
someone here who is able to code a csstidy extension and would do it for free? ;) |
| 11:35 |
uschi |
firebug not of any help for you? |
| 11:36 |
andreasbalzer |
for who? |
| 11:36 |
uschi |
for you |
| 11:36 |
andreasbalzer |
ah.. ;) no not really |
| 11:36 |
andreasbalzer |
I would like to send my css code through an optimizer before storing it in the database |
| 11:37 |
andreasbalzer |
in this case it's not about developing it, but to show a well formatted code in the FE.. |
| 11:37 |
andreasbalzer |
(however, also with the aim to make it more readable for me ;) ) |
| 11:37 |
uschi |
you mean you want to output the css-code itself? |
| 11:37 |
andreasbalzer |
yes |
| 11:37 |
Fanty |
is flexforms inside flexforms allowed? |
| 11:38 |
andreasbalzer |
uschi: I would like to make it look more beautiful without having to manually do it for 15 pages of css ;) |
| 11:38 |
uschi |
15 pages of css is quite a lot |
| 11:38 |
andreasbalzer |
yes |
| 11:38 |
andreasbalzer |
i know |
| 11:38 |
uschi |
this is more than even i have |
| 11:38 |
andreasbalzer |
you might want to help me ;) |
| 11:39 |
uschi |
i have no time, andreasbalzer |
| 11:39 |
andreasbalzer |
... |
| 11:39 |
andreasbalzer |
;) |
| 11:39 |
uschi |
cleaning up your css will be time consuming |
| 11:39 |
andreasbalzer |
absolutley.. that's why i want to use csstidy ;) |
| 11:39 |
andreasbalzer |
in less then 5 secs it has optimized everything... |
| 11:39 |
uschi |
because, well, somehow there is too much disorganised stuff |
| 11:39 |
andreasbalzer |
the only problem are those T3 constants |
| 11:40 |
uschi |
why that? |
| 11:40 |
andreasbalzer |
the T3 constants {$bla} are tranformed to a kind of } /*$bla}*/ |
| 11:40 |
andreasbalzer |
which will break the css |
| 11:41 |
pulponair |
uschi: 15 pages of css is definetly dead by design |
| 11:41 |
uschi |
means they are not parsed |
| 11:41 |
uschi |
yes, but andreasbalzer has inherited that page |
| 11:41 |
andreasbalzer |
right |
| 11:42 |
andreasbalzer |
and i see no possibility to remove some css if I don't use such an optimizer.. |
| 11:42 |
uschi |
so you need some insertData or dataWrap, andreasbalzer |
| 11:42 |
pulponair |
andreasbalzer: use one of the existing online optimizer...but in case of 15 pages i would assume that symantically wrong |
| 11:42 |
uschi |
there is a class for each and everything, pulponair |
| 11:42 |
andreasbalzer |
pulponair: those optimizer don'T work with T3 constants in the css code |
| 11:43 |
uschi |
then have the css output and paste it there |
| 11:43 |
pulponair |
andreasbalzer: replace them by static values and re replace them afterwards |
| 11:43 |
andreasbalzer |
uschi: I need a checkbox 'Use csstidy [a] before it's stored in cache [b] when it's send to the client [c] as soon as it's saved' |
| 11:43 |
uschi |
personally i would recommend to build the whole template again from scratch |
| 11:44 |
andreasbalzer |
pulponair: there are so many constants that it's problematic |
| 11:44 |
andreasbalzer |
uschi: which won't be much better in the end I guess. |
| 11:44 |
pulponair |
yeah rebuild it ... |
| 11:44 |
andreasbalzer |
you know it's not just a simple page, it's a graphical monster |
| 11:44 |
pulponair |
yeah: spend 2 days and you are fine |
| 11:44 |
uschi |
this is subject to change! |
| 11:44 |
pulponair |
even on a monsterpage |
| 11:45 |
uschi |
pulponair , have you ever seen that page? |
| 11:45 |
andreasbalzer |
i needed 1 year to transform this page from table into css (and overtaking every single margin, padding, etc) |
| 11:45 |
andreasbalzer |
www.ess-erfurt.de |
| 11:45 |
andreasbalzer |
it has various column settings, advertisment zones, color themes, ... |
| 11:45 |
andreasbalzer |
nearly every third page looks different... |
| 11:45 |
uschi |
you should ask yourself what of all this stuff is really needed |
| 11:46 |
andreasbalzer |
and it has to work in every single browser... |
| 11:46 |
pulponair |
andreasbalzer: my grandma used to say " aus scheisse kann man keine butter machen" |
| 11:46 |
andreasbalzer |
kinda |
| 11:46 |
andreasbalzer |
true |
| 11:46 |
andreasbalzer |
but at least you can use some "Deo" and spray it upon... |
| 11:46 |
m4rtijn |
does anyone know how I can use the first and surname from fe_user reg extension in the new login box extension "success" message.. with typoscript? |
| 11:47 |
pulponair |
andreasbalzer: but you wont eat it anyway (i hope) |
| 11:47 |
andreasbalzer |
hopefully not.. |
| 11:47 |
andreasbalzer |
anyway: any possibility to get a developer coding such an extension? |
| 11:47 |
pulponair |
andreasbalzer:i dont think so |
| 11:47 |
andreasbalzer |
:-/ |
| 11:48 |
pulponair |
andreasbalzer: at least i wouldnt do ....further more " parsing css" is not that easy |
| 11:48 |
uschi |
your grandma is right, andreasbalzer |
| 11:48 |
pulponair |
uschi: it was my |
| 11:48 |
andreasbalzer |
yeah.. :D |
| 11:48 |
uschi |
oh, sorry :) |
| 11:48 |
uschi |
so andreasbalzer simply has the wrong grandma |
| 11:48 |
pulponair |
uschi: yes |
| 11:49 |
andreasbalzer |
or the wrong webdesign company at the beginning.. |
| 11:49 |
andreasbalzer |
i have to go getting my lunch.. i'm back in a few minutes.. |
| 11:49 |
uschi |
andreasbalzer, the design is awful |
| 11:49 |
pulponair |
indeed |
| 11:49 |
uschi |
and it is not accessible |
| 11:49 |
uschi |
it has to be by law! |
| 11:49 |
pulponair |
and it doesnt work in ie7 |
| 11:50 |
uschi |
something has to be done, andreasbalzer, the sooner the better |
| 11:50 |
pulponair |
and it is not xhtml :) |
| 11:50 |
m4rtijn |
is it possible, if I insert a login box on every page on my website with typoscript and new login box, to somehow get the first und last name of a user in the success message? |
| 11:50 |
uschi |
you are loosing too much time with this |
| 11:50 |
uschi |
there is some info about the user in TSFE, m4rtijn |
| 11:51 |
uschi |
perhaps if you know the id of your FEuser you can read out the rest of his/her data via Records |
| 11:52 |
pulponair |
m4rtijn: eighter use a small userscript or readover tsref (i am not sure if name is stored to TSEF->feUSER |
| 11:53 |
m4rtijn |
thx pulp and uschi, I hoped it would be easier ;) |
| 11:54 |
m4rtijn |
maybe I shouldnt use the new login box, but the default one from fe_user ext. |
| 11:54 |
pulponair |
uschi: you might want to inform your sister about a new, great "food an demand" service :http://www.bringdienst.de/order/kebab-collection/1/index.htm note the supermarket function ;) |
| 11:55 |
pulponair |
uschi: that one made my day (night) last night ;) |
| 11:57 |
max_muetze |
hey guys (and girls ;)): please give me a hint: i try to place a link into a table content element - is it possible? if - how? |
| 11:57 |
uschi |
hey max_muetze |
| 11:58 |
max_muetze |
hey uschi ;) |
| 11:58 |
uschi |
perhaps using typolink-syntax, max_muetze |
| 11:59 |
m4rtijn |
hi max |
| 12:00 |
andreasbalzer |
i'm back again |
| 12:00 |
max_muetze |
uschi: what a silly question.. ^^ thanks |
| 12:02 |
max_muetze |
uschi: so i have to add one "external url"-page for every link i like to set? |
| 12:02 |
andreasbalzer |
[13:50] uschi: and it is not accessible |
| 12:02 |
andreasbalzer |
Why not? |
| 12:02 |
andreasbalzer |
[13:51] uschi: it has to be by law! |
| 12:02 |
andreasbalzer |
I know. And afaik it is.. |
| 12:02 |
andreasbalzer |
[13:51] pulponair: and it doesnt work in ie7 |
| 12:02 |
andreasbalzer |
?? |
| 12:02 |
andreasbalzer |
It was tested with IE7. What's wrong there? |
| 12:02 |
andreasbalzer |
[13:51] pulponair: and it is not xhtml :) |
| 12:02 |
andreasbalzer |
It mostly is. There are only the advertisments which will be xhtml as soon, as openads is going to publish the next version. This might be this month. |
| 12:03 |
uschi |
no, simply type in <LINK etc into your table cell |
| 12:03 |
max_muetze |
yes, i know.. it works with <link 35></link> - i'll try it with <link ">http://...> |
| 12:04 |
uschi |
there is some documentation about how to write a typolink |
| 12:04 |
andreasbalzer |
uschi:? |
| 12:04 |
uschi |
yes, andreasbalzer ? |
| 12:05 |
max_muetze |
uschi: it works :-) |
| 12:05 |
andreasbalzer |
why is it not accessible? |
| 12:05 |
uschi |
question of colors and contrast and this that and the other |
| 12:06 |
andreasbalzer |
well. I guess you think about the orange, right? Coperate Identities. I really like them ;) |
| 12:06 |
beev0r |
anyone here using realtemplateselector? |
| 12:06 |
beev0r |
uuuh page template selector |
| 12:06 |
uschi |
then this moving panorama image is anoying |
| 12:06 |
andreasbalzer |
i wanted to use it, but it's not developed further |
| 12:06 |
andreasbalzer |
uschi: i know |
| 12:07 |
andreasbalzer |
uschi: but at least you can stop it.. |
| 12:11 |
uschi |
andreasbalzer the whole design would look a lot friendlier if it was not all that orange |
| 12:18 |
andreasbalzer |
uschi: that depends on the page http://www.ess-erfurt.de/163.0.html |
| 12:24 |
Ries |
andreasbalzer: is ltg_phpadsnew compatible iwth openads? |
| 12:28 |
max_muetze |
question: i would like to link to a "modern linklist link" in my content (for access counting) - do you know a better way then taking the link from the linklist? (because its damn long) |
| 12:29 |
max_muetze |
is it possible to give an item an uniqe id that i can use with the <link> tag? |
| 12:32 |
max_muetze |
but i think it will not solve my problem... |
| 12:35 |
andreasbalzer |
ries:yes |
| 12:36 |
andreasbalzer |
ries: your extension is fully compatible, except those 'show a banner only one time...' and the other campaign options you can select in openads |
| 12:36 |
andreasbalzer |
(you might rename your extension..) |
| 12:39 |
beev0r |
can anyone here tell me how to get the page template selector extension running? |
| 12:40 |
beev0r |
typo3 already uses the template i specified, but it does not replace my markers |
| 12:40 |
Denyerec |
Does anyone know Michiel Roos, or his IRC nick ? |
| 12:42 |
Ries |
andreasbalzer: I had the question from Paul yesterday, and I wasn't sure |
| 12:42 |
andreasbalzer |
well it works quite fine |
| 12:43 |
andreasbalzer |
question to everyone here: which computer game demo would you play at the moment? What's currently 'good'? |
| 12:43 |
alexwx |
helo friends, how to create search engin on the site? thank you |
| 12:43 |
andreasbalzer |
alexwx: create a content element, type plugin and choose search |
| 12:44 |
pulponair |
alexwx: there are several issues to consider so please refere to indexed_search |
| 12:44 |
tobi |
andreasbalzer S.T.A.L.K.E.R is good (3d action), also the new comand and conquer and supreme comander (both realtime strategy) are nice |
| 12:44 |
alexwx |
andreasbalzer and if i need it for eny page in some corner of page? i need to markup that page in the temlate? |
| 12:44 |
andreasbalzer |
do they have demos? |
| 12:44 |
Denyerec |
Stalker's entertaining. |
| 12:44 |
Denyerec |
I think there was an MP demo. |
| 12:44 |
tobi |
no i havent andreasbalzer |
| 12:44 |
Denyerec |
C&C3 has a demo out |
| 12:45 |
Denyerec |
SUpcom does too, though the SupCom demo has far, far worse performance than most of the main game missions (That is, really really bad) |
| 12:45 |
andreasbalzer |
alexwx: I have just copied the formular of a page with a search form.. |
| 12:45 |
andreasbalzer |
i think I try them all :) My Asus 1950 XTX should handle any of these :) |
| 12:45 |
andreasbalzer |
(at the same time..) |
| 12:46 |
Denyerec |
hehe |
| 12:46 |
Denyerec |
C&C3 has super low hardware reqs |
| 12:46 |
Denyerec |
Stalker runs OK on my 6800GT |
| 12:46 |
Denyerec |
but Supreme Commander will make fun of any PC |
| 12:46 |
Denyerec |
It's a monster :S |
| 12:46 |
andreasbalzer |
my pc too ;) |
| 12:47 |
andreasbalzer |
nice graphics card, 2 GB memory, 1 TB harddisk and a nice Conroe 6600 |
| 12:47 |
Denyerec |
Indeed |
| 12:47 |
Denyerec |
I am trying to spec such a system at the moment. |
| 12:47 |
andreasbalzer |
with other words: I have to buy one of those biiiiig flatscreens ;) |
| 12:47 |
Denyerec |
But I discovered that a 8800GTX would not fit inside the case I was looking at!! |
| 12:48 |
andreasbalzer |
oh yeah. Those graphic cards are huge.. |
| 12:48 |
gerards |
morning all |
| 12:48 |
Denyerec |
27cm ! |
| 12:48 |
andreasbalzer |
the 1950 has a weight of more than 1 kilogram |
| 12:48 |
Denyerec |
It's madness. |
| 12:48 |
andreasbalzer |
btw: i bought a cooler master case |
| 12:48 |
andreasbalzer |
they have less vibrations.. |
| 12:51 |
andreasbalzer |
not sooo often ;) |
| 12:51 |
andreasbalzer |
it usually takes to many cd's and dvd's |
| 12:51 |
Ries |
andreasbalzer: be acrefull dude...... |
| 12:51 |
andreasbalzer |
yeah.. |
| 12:51 |
Ries |
andreasbalzer: I would suggest by a other TB station and backup over GB or something like that.....once a while :D |
| 12:51 |
andreasbalzer |
my harddisks crash more often then I would like them too |
| 12:52 |
Ries |
andreasbalzer: at google 20% of teh HD's carash within a year |
| 12:52 |
andreasbalzer |
i have to buy 2 new ones with 120 each.. (ok.. they are over 4 years old, but...) |
| 12:53 |
andreasbalzer |
the strange thing is, that most of my old Medion products destroy themself.. |
| 12:53 |
andreasbalzer |
one of my computer started to light in fire... |
| 12:53 |
andreasbalzer |
an other one started to make strange sounds with its harddrive |
| 12:53 |
andreasbalzer |
etc.. |
| 12:55 |
andreasbalzer |
wow.. i finally found an EA C&C website which isn't offline at the moment.. |
| 12:59 |
max_muetze |
can somebody please test, if my domain is still reachable? it is http://www.christianeiselt.de - i get no answer from it... |
| 12:59 |
andreasbalzer |
i can access it |
| 12:59 |
alexwx |
andreasbalzer i've created the plugin element, where is the search? |
| 12:59 |
max_muetze |
hm, curious... |
| 13:00 |
andreasbalzer |
alexwx: there should be a plugin of type search |
| 13:00 |
max_muetze |
i cannot access it - whether from here (zurich) nore from magdeburg... |
| 13:00 |
max_muetze |
andreasbalzer thx |
| 13:00 |
andreasbalzer |
np |
| 13:00 |
alexwx |
andreasbalzer aaa so not plugin but search, i see |
| 13:03 |
andreasbalzer |
i can't find any demo of stalker or supreme commander |
| 13:03 |
Ries |
andreasbalzer: I was way off... it's not 20% but 6% |
| 13:03 |
Ries |
andreasbalzer: http://tech.yahoo.com/blogs/null/16377 |
| 13:07 |
Ries |
max_muetze: what the hell are you doign with your PC?!?! |
| 13:08 |
andreasbalzer |
well my buddy just said an uncooled P4 can do the same even easier ;) |
| 13:09 |
max_muetze |
Ries: ;) it was not mine.. |
| 13:09 |
Ries |
max_muetze: hanks god!!!! |
| 13:09 |
Ries |
my computer doesn't get hot at all... may be a little warm |
| 13:10 |
andreasbalzer |
http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/87754/from/atom10 YIIIIPPPEEEEEY!! :) |
| 13:11 |
andreasbalzer |
Ries: my computer is cooler then the room temperature.. |
| 13:13 |
max_muetze |
can you please tell me, if it is possible to get banned from a typo3 install (i have no more access to my sites - tested from two different locations yet)? |
| 13:13 |
max_muetze |
it worked a few minutes from the second location till the 404... |
| 13:13 |
andreasbalzer |
yes with special extensions |
| 13:13 |
max_muetze |
i even get no ping-answer |
| 13:14 |
andreasbalzer |
that's not possible |
| 13:14 |
max_muetze |
i installed no new extensions... :/ |
| 13:14 |
andreasbalzer |
afaik |
| 13:14 |
andreasbalzer |
but it is possible to install apache with an anti DOS module |
| 13:14 |
max_muetze |
it worked before.. |
| 13:14 |
andreasbalzer |
try to restart your server |
| 13:14 |
Ries |
max_muetze: normally not |
| 13:15 |
max_muetze |
are you getting an answer from "ping christianeiselt.de"? its only a webpack |
| 13:15 |
andreasbalzer |
o i c |
| 13:15 |
andreasbalzer |
well i can open the website.. just as normal |
| 13:15 |
max_muetze |
it could be cached? |
| 13:15 |
andreasbalzer |
no |
| 13:17 |
max_muetze |
hm |
| 13:19 |
reber |
hello all ! |
| 13:19 |
reber |
did anyone tried joomla ? |
| 13:20 |
andreasbalzer |
this is definitly the wrong question here ;) |
| 13:20 |
andreasbalzer |
well.. i tried it |
| 13:20 |
andreasbalzer |
but T3 is a lot better |
| 13:21 |
reber |
ok,i was just surprised to see so many "extension" to joomla (less than for t3 but not that bad) |
| 13:21 |
Ries |
gerards: dude?? |
| 13:22 |
Ries |
reber: I tried it, and frankly I didn't understand joomla... that was 2.5 years ago befor I started to work with typo3 |
| 13:23 |
Ries |
reber: I was searching for a CMS for my and teh company's needs... one thing about joomla I didn't understand was how pages and templates where organised |
| 13:23 |
max_muetze |
reber: i use joomla and am now turning to typo3 because of the better organisation |
| 13:24 |
max_muetze |
(and the better working functions) |
| 13:24 |
reber |
Ries, really ? Looks like typo3 is more for "geek and power users" and joomla for a basic usage, but i never tried joomla at all, it's from what i tried on the web |
| 13:27 |
ipseos |
does anybody here have a successful installation of typo3 on windows? |
| 13:27 |
pulponair |
ries: everthing that lacks of a pagetree is crap ;) |
| 13:29 |
alexwx |
andreasbalzer i have done that search, but how can i hide the search form on the result page? |
| 13:29 |
ipseos |
somebody please help me troubleshoot the setup of imagemagick on windows, it is driving me nuts!!! |
| 13:30 |
andreasbalzer |
alexwx; afaik you have to create two search pages. One with the form and one for the results |
| 13:32 |
alexwx |
andreasbalzer ehm, but the result is just on the search type page, else the search doesnt work |
| 13:33 |
andreasbalzer |
it is configurable through TSC |
| 13:33 |
andreasbalzer |
moment |
| 13:34 |
andreasbalzer |
oh.. it seems as if the search result is always on the page together with the form.. sry |
| 13:35 |
alexwx |
andreasbalzer yes right |
| 13:35 |
andreasbalzer |
so i can't help you there.. sry |
| 13:37 |
alexwx |
andreasbalzer ok maybe i have a sollution thank you all the way |
| 13:43 |
alexwx |
andreasbalzer and the links of result have a target, you know how to remove it, or set? |
| 13:50 |
j0hndeere |
Good morning, humans. |
| 13:50 |
Denyerec |
Hey |
| 13:53 |
j0hndeere |
Did you develop any more extensions over the weekend, Denyerec? |
| 13:53 |
Denyerec |
hahahaha |
| 13:53 |
Denyerec |
Oh you crack me upo |
| 13:53 |
Denyerec |
I've been reading a lot |
| 13:53 |
Denyerec |
and then found an extension that does almost what I want. |
| 13:54 |
Denyerec |
So I'm going to look at that one and then have a crack myself |
| 13:56 |
j0hndeere |
that's a sound plan |
| 13:56 |
j0hndeere |
I'm half expecting you to eventually say 'ah, forget it' and create a competing CMS of your own :) |
| 13:56 |
Ries |
ipseos: it really sounds like a permission problem |
| 13:57 |
Ries |
ipseos: or a setting in php that prevent's executing files from outside teh webroot... |
| 13:57 |
Ries |
ipseos: so it's really not so much of a typo3 problem... |
| 13:58 |
ipseos |
Ries: i tried everything i could find on the issue.. now i am feeling really down because i dont know what else to know.. |
| 13:58 |
ipseos |
dont know what else to try |
| 13:58 |
ipseos |
safe mode is off |
| 13:58 |
Ries |
ipseos: But do your self a favor, abandon windows as a server and get a BSD or linux box... or by parallels to run linux on your desktop |
| 13:59 |
ipseos |
i would do that, but unfortunately i have another web application which we spent lots of money on that requires a windows server"!!! |
| 13:59 |
Ries |
ipseos: I don't knows windows, really and frankly I don't care about windows.... |
| 13:59 |
ipseos |
winblows |
| 13:59 |
Ries |
But you didn't try everything... Did you already try to run teh command typo3 tries to execute in a shell and see what happens? |
| 14:00 |
m4rtijn |
does anyone know how I get the "permanent login" check box visible from ext: new_login |
| 14:00 |
m4rtijn |
with tyoscript |
| 14:00 |
Ries |
gerards: are you on skype? |
| 14:00 |
ipseos |
how do i find out what command the typo3 tries to execute, because i cant seem to find it? |
| 14:00 |
Ries |
ipseos: if you go to the install tool, and run the IM tests |
| 14:01 |
m4rtijn |
re |
| 14:01 |
Ries |
ipseos: you DO test if IM is working in the install tool, right? |
| 14:01 |
ipseos |
if i go to imageprocessing, it says test skipped |
| 14:01 |
Ries |
pulponair: this on is for you: How can I get in typo3 (extension) the url a website is running under? |
| 14:01 |
ipseos |
because for some reason t3 wont locate the imagemagick script.. C:\wwwexe\ImageMagick\ |
| 14:02 |
Ries |
ipseos: iis your server online? |
| 14:02 |
pulponair |
Ries: FE extension? |
| 14:02 |
ipseos |
yeah |
| 14:02 |
Ries |
pulponair: yup |
| 14:03 |
Ries |
ipseos: give me access, I'll give it a quick look |
| 14:03 |
ipseos |
Ries: sorry but i cant give access as it is related to work! :( |
| 14:03 |
pulponair |
Ries: i would try the global $_SERVER array but there are probably some T3 api fuctions |
| 14:04 |
Ries |
pulponair: yeaa I don't want to do it teh php way |
| 14:04 |
ipseos |
Ries: in the basic configuration section, i enter C:\wwwexe\ImageMagick\ and t3 says it checked there but couldnt find an IM installation |
| 14:05 |
pulponair |
Ries: relative paths arent an option? |
| 14:05 |
Ries |
pulponair: Nope, I need to send a mail |
| 14:05 |
pulponair |
Ries: ah ok wait i ll look it up |
| 14:05 |
pulponair |
t3lib_div::getHostname |
| 14:05 |
m4rtijn |
ipseos do you have a CGI-BIN which works? |
| 14:05 |
ipseos |
i downloaded the windows binary from typo3.sunsite.dk and extracted it to that folder above... is that enough or did i have to run some exe to isntall it? |
| 14:06 |
Ries |
ipseos: no clue |
| 14:06 |
ipseos |
m4rtijn: i think so |
| 14:06 |
Ries |
I don't understand what a windows binary is |
| 14:06 |
pulponair |
ries:t3lib_div::getHostname |
| 14:06 |
m4rtijn |
try searching for imagemagick-4.2.9 .. its a CGI-BIN running version |
| 14:06 |
tobi |
typo3.sunsite.dk has all the static versions of imagemagic |
| 14:07 |
ipseos |
Ries: alrite. i mean like an executable, .exe i just unzipped to that folder but didnt try to install anything the wya one might normally do on windows programs |
| 14:07 |
pulponair |
ries:but http://doxygen.frozenkiwi.com/typo3/html/d6/d99/class_8t3lib__div_8php-source.html#l03284 it does nothing but querying $_SERVER ;) |
| 14:07 |
Ries |
pulponair: I'll check it out, thanks |
| 14:07 |
m4rtijn |
imagemagick-4.2.9 is faster and runs on every OS as long as CGI-BIN works |
| 14:07 |
ipseos |
m4rtijn: i will see what i can find.. what do you recommend sourceforge |
| 14:08 |
m4rtijn |
tobi mentioned.. typo3.sunsite has all static versions |
| 14:08 |
ipseos |
when you say static, what do you mean exactly> |
| 14:08 |
m4rtijn |
which one pulp? |
| 14:08 |
pulponair |
[15:05] m4rtijn: imagemagick-4.2.9 is faster and runs on every OS as long as CGI-BIN works |
| 14:09 |
pulponair |
m4rtijn: do you got a testcase arround for benchmarking IM? |
| 14:09 |
m4rtijn |
dunno.. I read it somewhere and experienced it locally |
| 14:09 |
pulponair |
" runs on every OS" aeh |
| 14:10 |
m4rtijn |
well.. its OS independent right? |
| 14:10 |
m4rtijn |
as long as it support CGI scripts |
| 14:10 |
pulponair |
m4rtijn: im is binary so its not fully os independed |
| 14:11 |
m4rtijn |
k, sorry :p |
| 14:11 |
pulponair |
but it can be build on almost every unix/posix alike system |
| 14:11 |
Ries |
pulponair: t3lib_div::getIndpEnv('TYPO3_REQUEST_HOST') |
| 14:11 |
Ries |
I think.. |
| 14:12 |
pulponair |
most im problems arent related to the version itself but more to the linked libs or the php compile options (because most people arent aware that font t3 font rendering isnt IM related) |
| 14:13 |
pulponair |
and as long nobody set up an im benchmark (i wonder what would it look like) we are unable to compare its performance |
| 14:14 |
pulponair |
Ries: yes may also work |
| 14:14 |
ipseos |
should i try installing the latest imagemagick version 6.x.x rather than 4.2.9? |
| 14:14 |
pulponair |
ipseos: yes |
| 14:15 |
ipseos |
thanks! |
| 14:15 |
pulponair |
ipseos:there is no reason for using outdated versions... |
| 14:15 |
ipseos |
is perlmagick also required? |
| 14:15 |
pulponair |
no |
| 14:15 |
ipseos |
ok , thanks |
| 14:15 |
pulponair |
at least none i am aware of |
| 14:15 |
ipseos |
lets see how this goes |
| 14:16 |
pulponair |
ipseos: make sure your php gd is linked against freetype and supports the most common image formats |
| 14:17 |
pulponair |
ipseos: if you are dealing with ttf fonts enable gd native-ttf support it performes much better in ttf antialiasing ...cause freetypes AA is restricted due do legal reason |
| 14:17 |
ipseos |
pulponair: i think the gd lib is working, it shows the yellow box with text size 96dpi |
| 14:17 |
pulponair |
or even better use ps1 fonts (if you do not need utf8 2 byte fonts) |
| 14:17 |
ipseos |
pulponair: how do i enable gd native-ttf |
| 14:18 |
pulponair |
ipseos: it is an compile option but not mandatory ..it just improves ttf AA |
| 14:18 |
pulponair |
ipseos: first get your base system up and running |
| 14:18 |
ipseos |
yeah! |
| 14:18 |
ipseos |
quick question, for download options i have ImageMagick-6.3.3-5-Q16-windows-dll.exe ImageMagick-6.3.3-5-Q16-windows-static.exe |
| 14:19 |
ipseos |
do i need both or just one? |
| 14:19 |
pulponair |
ipsoes: just one |
| 14:19 |
pulponair |
ipseos: which one you need depends on your system |
| 14:19 |
pulponair |
ipseos: i would try the static on (all libs statically linked) |
| 14:20 |
ipseos |
pulponair: ok! |
| 14:20 |
pulponair |
ipseos: if you run into trouble you could switch back to the dynamic one an reinstall all depend libs |
| 14:20 |
beev0r |
cant i combine entryLevel with special = list ? |
| 14:30 |
RickardAtWork |
Hmm. Is there any way to send along some piece of text or information to a frontend plugin? I know I can do it from the typoscript template, but I would rather do it directly in the backend. Right now, I have this: |
| 14:30 |
RickardAtWork |
plugin.tx_campuscourses_pi1.department = 016530020 |
| 14:30 |
ipseos |
pulponair: i am just uploading now... but i want to ask you.. do i still need to set some permissions in windows 2003 server, such as on cmd.exe? |
| 14:30 |
RickardAtWork |
But I want the department to be different on different pages. |
| 14:30 |
pulponair |
ipseos: sure |
| 14:32 |
pulponair |
ipseos: i am out at this point since my MS knowledge isnt that big ...i would try to open cmd after installing and trying to execute convert -v ...if it runs try the same from within a php script |
| 14:32 |
pulponair |
t |
| 14:32 |
ipseos |
pulponair: i read that i should grant IUSR_machine name read & execute permissions, and one tutorial said copy the cmd.exe from C:\WINDOWS\system32 to C:\WINDOWS\system32\inetsrv |
| 14:32 |
ipseos |
oh ok |
| 14:32 |
ipseos |
alright |
| 14:32 |
igomezrdguez |
hi |
| 14:32 |
ipseos |
i will give that a try and report back here later |
| 14:32 |
pulponair |
ipseos: depends on whether your webserver runs in chroot env or not |
| 14:32 |
ipseos |
thanks for your time and help! |
| 14:33 |
ipseos |
dont know what chroot is |
| 14:33 |
ipseos |
i have plesk installed, so site is running under a vhosts directory |
| 14:33 |
igomezrdguez |
i've got some problems with version 4.1 |
| 14:34 |
ipseos |
going afk, brb |
| 14:34 |
pulponair |
ipseos: google for it :) basically it means your webserver is arrested to a certain directory during runtime |
| 14:34 |
igomezrdguez |
i've got a blank pages when there's syntax errors in a ext_table.php file |
| 14:35 |
ipseos |
pulponair: ok thanks! :) |
| 14:35 |
igomezrdguez |
knows somebody why? |
| 14:59 |
pulponair |
igomezrdguez: yes because there is a syntax error in ext_tables.php |
| 15:10 |
delmonico |
is there any documenation on the new style "include static" stuff for extensions? i.e. pi*/static/setup.txt instead of the old ext_typo... |
| 15:10 |
delmonico |
just want to load some css into my extension |
| 15:12 |
m4rtijn |
does anyone know how I could check with typoscript if a FE user is loged in and display a welcome msg.. or let me know where I could search for some answers on this? |
| 15:13 |
tobi |
m4rtijn there is a condition [usergroup=*] if i remember corectly .. |
| 15:13 |
Denyerec |
http://www.fukung.net/v/2294/vista.jpg :) |
| 15:15 |
m4rtijn |
hehe |
| 15:16 |
m4rtijn |
me collegue just deleted Vista and installed XP |
| 15:16 |
max_muetze |
my vista works fine :) |
| 15:17 |
m4rtijn |
he had some messages like "must be administrator to do this" and got fed up |
| 15:19 |
max_muetze |
yes, i had them just after installing... but they are "erträglich" ^^ |
| 15:19 |
max_muetze |
they hold them in borders how we german say.. :D |
| 15:20 |
Denyerec |
Tough one to translate it seems |
| 15:26 |
m4rtijn |
there is a 1:1 english expression.. but im tired, hungry and not good at thinking atm. :p |
| 15:27 |
tobi |
"to keep within a limit" but i dont know if thats the right tranlation |
| 15:28 |
pulponair |
delmonico: : just and "addstatic" to your ext_tables |
| 15:31 |
Denyerec |
restricting |
| 15:31 |
Denyerec |
ertraaglich - restricting ? |
| 15:32 |
tobi |
no, erträglich is bearable / sufferable |
| 15:32 |
uschi |
tolerable |
| 15:32 |
Denyerec |
Max was leading me down the wrong path :) |
| 15:33 |
tobi |
tolerable is the best translation yes ;) |
| 15:33 |
uschi |
the ways of max *g* |
| 15:33 |
Denyerec |
:) |
| 15:33 |
delmonico |
pulponair: yeah then I get some files I can write stuff into, but how do I load the css so that it actually reaches the browser? |
| 15:33 |
davidpersson |
hi |
| 15:33 |
Denyerec |
uschi - I have got to further ahead, I can still not code extensions :) |
| 15:33 |
Denyerec |
Watching the video's now, it seems the API is approximately the same size as War and Peace. |
| 15:34 |
pulponair |
delmonico: plugin.myext.._CSS_DEFAULT_STYLE ( |
| 15:35 |
davidpersson |
excuse me... can anybody tell me how i can make records from the list view show on a page? i'm quite new to typo3... |
| 15:35 |
pulponair |
davidpersson: hack a plugin :) |
| 15:35 |
Denyerec |
Sounds like someone created some content elements in the list view... |
| 15:35 |
Denyerec |
davidpersson are they normal content elements ? |
| 15:35 |
davidpersson |
ha! i thought that this would be a solution;) |
| 15:35 |
Denyerec |
Or weirdy records |
| 15:36 |
delmonico |
pulponair: did the _CSS_DEFAULT... and then included the static code in the template module and flushed the cage - no effect :/ |
| 15:36 |
davidpersson |
they are records from the the db integration plugin. the records represent results from a db query |
| 15:36 |
pulponair |
delmonico: this is defently the way to go ... |
| 15:36 |
pulponair |
delmonico: what does your ts setup consist of ..the one shipped with your ext? |
| 15:37 |
davidpersson |
when i create those elmnts in page view they don't appear |
| 15:37 |
davidpersson |
ok you're not the authors of that plugin. maybe i should just wait for a better doc |
| 15:37 |
delmonico |
can't paste it for you, just reverted the file because I had given up for now ;) but I copied the _CSS_DEFAULT from tt_news so it should have been correct |
| 15:38 |
pulponair |
delmonico: sure shot |
| 15:39 |
delmonico |
for today, i'm frustraded enough anyway *heh* |
| 15:39 |
delmonico |
time to enjoy the last sunny minutes :) cya |
| 15:44 |
andreasbalzer |
hi again.. |
| 15:45 |
davidpersson |
hi |
| 15:45 |
andreasbalzer |
C&C was a little bit boring.. only 3 little missions.. played them 20 times and won everytime.. we should tell people, that T3 is like a strategy game.. thousand times better ;) |
| 15:46 |
davidpersson |
which c&c is your favourite? |
| 15:46 |
andreasbalzer |
well of the current one i have only a demo |
| 15:46 |
andreasbalzer |
the last one i do not have |
| 15:46 |
andreasbalzer |
but i have every other one.. |
| 15:46 |
davidpersson |
what's that last one |
| 15:46 |
andreasbalzer |
the last one is brand new (C&C3) |
| 15:46 |
davidpersson |
ok i stopped at red alert that was c&c 3? |
| 15:46 |
davidpersson |
ok c&c 0.3 |
| 15:47 |
andreasbalzer |
i think the best one of tiberian sun or the second C&C (don't know the English title) |
| 15:47 |
davidpersson |
me neither |
| 15:47 |
davidpersson |
i really would like to play c&c again |
| 15:47 |
davidpersson |
i'm sick of enemyterritory ... |
| 15:49 |
pulponair |
unix is the best multiplayer adventure ever ;) |
| 15:49 |
andreasbalzer |
right |
| 15:49 |
m4rtijn |
nah, tiberium sun is the 3th oficially |
| 15:49 |
m4rtijn |
the newest one |
| 15:49 |
andreasbalzer |
no, the newest one is tiberium war |
| 15:49 |
andreasbalzer |
and it's not good |
| 15:49 |
m4rtijn |
ah, yes |
| 15:49 |
m4rtijn |
I like it |
| 15:49 |
andreasbalzer |
unrealistic and bad graphics |
| 15:57 |
Denyerec |
show me a realistic RTS... :/ |
| 15:58 |
pulponair |
real life :9 |
| 15:58 |
andreasbalzer |
well the old series of C&C were at least based on some historic facts and humours.. the new C&C is just .... |
| 15:58 |
andreasbalzer |
juat a question: is there any T3 wishlist? |
| 16:01 |
pulponair |
andreasbalzer: bug tracker feature request |
| 16:01 |
andreasbalzer |
no, i'm looking for something larger |
| 16:01 |
andreasbalzer |
with more audience |
| 16:02 |
pulponair |
andreasbalzer: one of the mailling lists |
| 16:03 |
tobi |
wouldbenice.org (bugtracker) :) |
| 16:04 |
andreasbalzer |
well I guess I'll use the wiki |
| 16:12 |
Denyerec |
What is this lib/div thing ? |
| 16:12 |
Denyerec |
"A kickstarter plugin that generates code for the lib/div extension development framework." etc |
| 16:13 |
Ries |
Denyerec: the use a MVC framework in typo3 |
| 16:13 |
Denyerec |
Ah |
| 16:13 |
Denyerec |
for BE or FE plugins? |
| 16:14 |
Denyerec |
lo bedlam |
| 16:14 |
bedlamhote1 |
good morning. |
| 16:18 |
Ries |
FE |
| 16:18 |
Ries |
it's actually quite nice, and teh gallery I am creating using teh lib/div framework |
| 16:18 |
andreasbalzer |
could someone correct my spelling mistakes please? http://wiki.typo3.org/index.php/Ext_T3_wishlist |
| 16:23 |
Ries |
I indeed could whish that the world was for free :D |
| 16:23 |
andreasbalzer |
:) |
| 16:24 |
andreasbalzer |
didn't know how to express that ;) |
| 16:24 |
andreasbalzer |
i just created two threads in dev and English mailinglists for more wishes, etc.. |
| 16:25 |
Ries |
well... i think there is already a lot of items for free on typo3.org.. |
| 16:25 |
Ries |
you can use them and modify them and connect them toeachother |
| 16:25 |
andreasbalzer |
yeah, but i think that major extensions are not available |
| 16:25 |
Ries |
But I think it's always weird to ask something for free |
| 16:25 |
bedlamhote1 |
Ries: the world is available at not charge. It's the price of the add-ons that kill you... |
| 16:25 |
andreasbalzer |
there's no good board, no good image gallery, no good social networking, no groupware, .... |
| 16:26 |
andreasbalzer |
ries: true, but otherwise noone will do it |
| 16:26 |
Ries |
bedlamhote1: I think the sun is a noce 'add-on' for free :D |
| 16:26 |
andreasbalzer |
what about cancer? ;) |
| 16:26 |
Ries |
cancer comes at a price.... |
| 16:26 |
andreasbalzer |
but doesn't cost anything to get it;) |
| 16:27 |
bedlamhote1 |
Ries: well, the sun is part of the World 1.0 OS... |
| 16:28 |
Ries |
andreasbalzer: you cn by sigarates for example |
| 16:32 |
Denyerec |
andreasbalzer - things like this are why people ask for sponsorship. |
| 16:32 |
Denyerec |
Sadly, our govenrments will not allow us to exist for free. |
| 16:33 |
pulponair |
andreasbalzer: why dont you create an extension by yourself? |
| 16:34 |
andreasbalzer |
because i'm going to write my Abitur in the next weeks and therfore i have to learn |
| 16:35 |
andreasbalzer |
but my scedule says: after my Abitur, i'm going to learn how to write own extx |
| 16:35 |
andreasbalzer |
(exts...) |
| 16:35 |
andreasbalzer |
and i have to reread some PHP class things.. |
| 16:35 |
pulponair |
andreasbalzer: you got time to spend the whole day in irc and on mallinglist thats enought time to code things |
| 16:36 |
andreasbalzer |
the old Turbo Pascal that we lean in school is a little bit inproductive if i want to code good code for T3.. |
| 16:36 |
pulponair |
or at least to get started |
| 16:36 |
andreasbalzer |
but i am not allowed to forget how to code TP at the moment |
| 16:36 |
andreasbalzer |
and it's hard to know all the different things by heart... |
| 16:37 |
andreasbalzer |
that's why I currently do not code... Neither JS nor PHP |
| 16:37 |
pulponair |
andreasbalzer: learning php + t3 api wont affect your tp skills |
| 16:38 |
andreasbalzer |
oh they will.. |
| 16:38 |
pulponair |
andreasbalzer: and to be honest getting the highschool grade is nothing compared to real life ;) |
| 16:38 |
andreasbalzer |
i already had that problem |
| 16:38 |
andreasbalzer |
but i'm at 15,0 |
| 16:39 |
Denyerec |
True pulp, but it's a good fallback |
| 16:39 |
Denyerec |
I have a 1st class master degree in Electronic Engineering, just in case Webdev doesn't work out :D |
| 16:39 |
pulponair |
15,0 ? |
| 16:39 |
andreasbalzer |
15,0 means you can't be any better.. Any mistake in any test makes you worse.. 15,0 is the best grade you can get |
| 16:39 |
pulponair |
Denyerec: yeah but we arent talkin about bachlor/master degrees atm just about the german "highshool grade" |
| 16:40 |
Denyerec |
Well they get you into University, right ? |
| 16:40 |
andreasbalzer |
which is not as easy as in America.. |
| 16:40 |
andreasbalzer |
yeah |
| 16:40 |
Denyerec |
So you get into University and THEN you can waste some serious time :D |
| 16:40 |
pulponair |
Denyerec: indeed |
| 16:40 |
andreasbalzer |
right ;) |
| 16:41 |
andreasbalzer |
by the way.. what would you try to do: study some marketing? study some informatics, economy & informatics or communication design? |
| 16:41 |
Denyerec |
Ries you recommend Smarty for FE templates rather than ###MARKERS### |
| 16:41 |
Denyerec |
? |
| 16:41 |
Denyerec |
Study something you're interested in. |
| 16:41 |
andreasbalzer |
i'm interested in all of them.. |
| 16:42 |
andreasbalzer |
the big question is: what would you do in terms of money and job possibilities? |
| 16:42 |
pulponair |
anyway : " i cant not do anything by myself since i have to learn for so shool, so could someone else please jump in cause i dont wanna lose my "15,0" grade " sounds pretty odd to me |
| 16:42 |
Denyerec |
never hurts to ask :) |
| 16:43 |
andreasbalzer |
well pulponair: the thing is, after I got my Abitur, i'll have a year of time to work only for T3.. |
| 16:43 |
andreasbalzer |
and i have already started... (skin team, cal team, hci team) |
| 16:43 |
pulponair |
andreasbalzer: we will see |
| 16:43 |
pulponair |
Denyerec: at least it doesnt via internet ;) |
| 16:43 |
uschi |
i envy you andreasbalzer :) |
| 16:43 |
andreasbalzer |
i even have all the books in my shelves |
| 16:44 |
andreasbalzer |
not really uschi.. not really |
| 16:44 |
Denyerec |
reminds me I need to give Sebkur a slap and get him to move my latest updates onto the wiki |
| 16:44 |
uschi |
why not? a year off? free time to learn |
| 16:44 |
Ries |
I whish I was still at school....snifff |
| 16:44 |
Denyerec |
Ries you recommend Smarty for FE templates rather than ###MARKERS### right ? |
| 16:45 |
pulponair |
Ries: start some distance learning is almost the same ;) |
| 16:45 |
Ries |
I like smarty better |
| 16:45 |
Denyerec |
you got any small extensions that use it, that I could use as a learning tool ? |
| 16:45 |
Denyerec |
or know of any that do |
| 16:45 |
andreasbalzer |
uschi: yeah. but I have to be able to write down everything out of 1020 pages of our informatic schoolbooks, 800 maths pages and 400 english pages and about 900 pages of economy for my Abitur.. |
| 16:45 |
Ries |
Denyerec: I'll make one for you... |
| 16:45 |
Denyerec |
Awesome beyond all measures of awesomeness |
| 16:45 |
andreasbalzer |
and most of my teachers insist on a word-per-word repetition.. |
| 16:46 |
Denyerec |
Cor I'm glad I didn't have to do that |
| 16:46 |
Denyerec |
My memory is appalling. |
| 16:46 |
Denyerec |
I have to derive everything from basics every time |
| 16:46 |
andreasbalzer |
well i'm attending something like a school for elites.. |
| 16:46 |
Denyerec |
! |
| 16:47 |
Denyerec |
You know what would rock... |
| 16:47 |
andreasbalzer |
no.. |
| 16:47 |
Denyerec |
...intellisense for the Typo API |
| 16:48 |
Denyerec |
That would be fantastic :) |
| 16:48 |
pulponair |
i gotta go |
| 16:48 |
pulponair |
bye you genius ;) |
| 16:48 |
andreasbalzer |
cu pulponair |
| 17:02 |
ipseos |
if i have two seperate servers, one unix and one windows, is it possible to host an application on each server, but under the same domain? i.e. abc.com/xyz is hosted on windows, but if you enter abc.com/ then it takes you to the linux server? (anyone) |
| 17:03 |
andreasbalzer |
maybe something like a redirect to another IP |
| 17:03 |
ndee |
hey there, anyone around? |
| 17:03 |
andreasbalzer |
it might be able to do that with htaccess or some apache config.. |
| 17:04 |
ndee |
what speaks against static publishing of a site? |
| 17:05 |
ipseos |
andreas: i have access to plesk control panel on both servers, but i am not sure how to configure the dns entries to make this work |
| 17:05 |
andreasbalzer |
i don't know plesk.. |
| 17:08 |
ndee |
anyone has experience with large typo3 sites? I'm wondering about the performance, and how static publishing would help that. |
| 17:08 |
andreasbalzer |
ndee: if you don't use dynamic things like boards, chats, etc on every page, you can increase the performance by a factor of about 500 to 5000 |
| 17:09 |
andreasbalzer |
try eAccelerator, modProxy and 2 quick... extensions of kraftb |
| 17:09 |
ndee |
yeah, that's what I think. The problem is, we have actually some very static pages, we get about 2500 users a day and when I do an apache benchmark, I get about 6req/sec |
| 17:10 |
ndee |
eaccelerator is already working. I think a plugin which generates the HTML would be the best. |
| 17:10 |
andreasbalzer |
well do you use modProxy? |
| 17:10 |
ndee |
nope, what does modProxy do? |
| 17:10 |
andreasbalzer |
it makes everything T3 generates like a static website without letting T3 know about.. |
| 17:11 |
ndee |
oh, that would be cool. How does it know how to generate every page? |
| 17:11 |
andreasbalzer |
it's just a proxy |
| 17:11 |
andreasbalzer |
it opens the page and fills a cache with it |
| 17:12 |
andreasbalzer |
there's a podcast about it |
| 17:12 |
ndee |
how does it know which page to open? |
| 17:12 |
andreasbalzer |
it doesn't know anything |
| 17:12 |
Denyerec |
Grr |
| 17:12 |
Denyerec |
Ries I will hassle you later about extensions :) |
| 17:12 |
andreasbalzer |
you just reroute every access through modProxy |
| 17:13 |
ndee |
and after the first time it got hit, it will generate a cache? |
| 17:13 |
andreasbalzer |
yes |
| 17:13 |
ndee |
awesome. |
| 17:13 |
ndee |
I guess that helps alot. |
| 17:13 |
andreasbalzer |
and this makes it a lot better |
| 17:13 |
andreasbalzer |
but if you really have _only_ static pages you might want to use kraftb's extensions in addition. |
| 17:13 |
andreasbalzer |
then your website loads faster then you can spell its address ;) |
| 17:14 |
ndee |
:D |
| 17:14 |
ndee |
ok, gonna try it :) |
| 17:15 |
andreasbalzer |
where do I have to register an extension key? |
| 17:16 |
andreasbalzer |
i only found http://typo3.org/extensions/extension-keys/# |
| 17:16 |
andreasbalzer |
ah |
| 17:16 |
andreasbalzer |
i have to be logged in ;) |
| 17:26 |
Ries |
Denyerec: around 3 I have some time to make the extension for you |
| 17:33 |
ralze |
hi. The <link ... tag in the header is ignored. http://phpfi.com/222559 and www.architektenschaft.de... |
| 17:34 |
ralze |
could someone please help me? |
| 17:53 |
pulponair |
re |
| 18:03 |
Ries |
hey pulponair |
| 18:13 |
andreasbalzer |
i have a question.. I have just coded the first few lines of an extension and now I want to check, whether a specific radiobox is selected in BE or not... |
| 18:14 |
andreasbalzer |
my radiobox is called abc and has 3 possible values 1,2,3 that extend sys_templates |
| 18:15 |
andreasbalzer |
i know that $params['pObj']->config['config']['abcsstidy_option'] checks for a value in TSconfig, but how to check for a radiobox? |
| 18:26 |
pulponair |
ries: dude how are you doing? |
| 18:28 |
andreasbalzer |
what do I have to do, to access data[sys_template][2][tx_abcsstidy_parsewithcsstidy] ? |
| 18:28 |
andreasbalzer |
can I just write $data[sys_template][2][tx_abcsstidy_parsewithcsstidy] in my extension? |
| 18:33 |
Ries |
pulponair: calling with rackspace... |
| 18:45 |
isolysis |
I am still racking my brain in trying to get this typo3 (install tool) to detect imagemagick (installed on Win 2003 server). If anyone has any ideas or suggestions, feel free... |
| 18:50 |
kraftb |
hey everyone .... |
| 18:50 |
kraftb |
can anyone help me with a little IE/CSS bug ? |
| 18:50 |
kraftb |
in a page of mine ... |
| 18:50 |
kraftb |
quite OT ... i know |
| 18:51 |
kraftb |
you can see the problem here: the footer goes over the content ... altough i put a clear:both at the bottom of the content: http://think-open.org/kraftb/bug.png |
| 18:51 |
kraftb |
but just in IE |
| 18:52 |
kraftb |
and not all the time but only sometimes on some pages ... and if you reload it's gone |
| 18:54 |
bedlamhote1 |
hey kraftb: is the page where this happens public? |
| 18:54 |
kraftb |
no ... but i can give you a demo login |
| 18:54 |
kraftb |
wait |
| 18:55 |
smg |
kraftb: why not #css? |
| 18:56 |
kraftb |
http://hc.projects.think-open.at |
| 18:56 |
kraftb |
User: hcdemo |
| 18:56 |
kraftb |
Pass: tmqsht |
| 18:56 |
kraftb |
the pass public here is no prob |
| 18:56 |
kraftb |
the page will go public on friday |
| 18:57 |
kraftb |
this CSS problem in IE which randomly occurs is tricky for me to solve |
| 18:57 |
kraftb |
i guess it's some well known css bug where i just apply display:inline to some element or such and everything works |
| 18:58 |
kraftb |
i do not know if it happens in IE7 ... it does in IE5&6 |
| 19:00 |
bedlamhote1 |
kraftb: I can't make it happen i IE6...even at Kontakt & Service> Ansprechpartner |
| 19:03 |
kraftb |
well ... if i click around some pages it happens ... |
| 19:03 |
kraftb |
here: |
| 19:03 |
bedlamhote1 |
kraftb: but it sounds rather like the 'peekaboo' bug... http://www.positioniseverything.net/explorer/peekaboo.html |
| 19:03 |
kraftb |
http://hc.projects.think-open.at/index.php?id=partner_humanocare |
| 19:03 |
kraftb |
and here: |
| 19:03 |
kraftb |
http://hc.projects.think-open.at/index.php?id=kernaussagen |
| 19:04 |
bedlamhote1 |
Not happening for me in either place [!] |
| 19:04 |
kraftb |
hmm ... |
| 19:07 |
bedlamhote1 |
I agree: hmm. |
| 19:08 |
uschi |
heyyyyyyyyy kraftb :)))))))) |
| 19:09 |
bedlamhote1 |
kraftb: any javascript in the page that's thinking about screen res? |
| 19:09 |
uschi |
hi bedlamhote1 , number 1 of today? |
| 19:10 |
bedlamhote1 |
hi uschi: think I'm still logged in at home. |
| 19:20 |
kraftb |
no JS about screen res |
| 19:25 |
max_muetze |
to all: can you tell me please how i can add an image to a "text/w image element" which i already uploaded in an older element? |
| 19:25 |
max_muetze |
the image is now in /uploads/pics and all i can use is /fileadmin |
| 19:25 |
Ries |
max_muetze: you can't |
| 19:25 |
max_muetze |
why? |
| 19:25 |
kraftb |
oh yeah ... |
| 19:25 |
max_muetze |
is it a bug? |
| 19:26 |
Ries |
That's the way it works |
| 19:26 |
kraftb |
there is IE6 css conditions on the site |
| 19:26 |
kraftb |
belamhotel |
| 19:26 |
max_muetze |
how funny is this? |
| 19:26 |
Ries |
max_muetze: if you want to re-use images you need to uplaod them first to fileadmin and then reference them from there... But even then |
| 19:26 |
Ries |
typo3 will copy them to uploads/ (I believe) |
| 19:27 |
Ries |
if you want to take care of disk-space and make better use of re-using images then you need to take a look at DAM |
| 19:27 |
bedlamhote1 |
kraftb: sorry. Back. There are IE 6 CSS conditions...let me look. |
| 19:28 |
max_muetze |
oh man... that sounds not very logical... :/ |
| 19:28 |
kraftb |
div#container |
| 19:29 |
kraftb |
i set the width ... as workaround for max/min width in FF |
| 19:29 |
kraftb |
reload it |
| 19:29 |
kraftb |
i just tried around a little |
| 19:29 |
bedlamhote1 |
kraftb: yes, of course. But that 373px height is suspiciously close to the location of the footer stuff in your .png. Will reload, one moment. |
| 19:30 |
kraftb |
well the footer is placed at 373 px .... but when the content grows the box shall also grow and put the footer lower |
| 19:30 |
kraftb |
this works most of the time |
| 19:30 |
kraftb |
but only sometimes the footer goes over the content ... like if the box wont expand |
| 19:31 |
bedlamhote1 |
Quite. As if IE6 were arbitrarily obeying the spec :) |
| 19:34 |
bedlamhote1 |
kraftb: wait: which parent element is div.main-footer supposed to be positioned at the bottom of? |
| 19:34 |
kraftb |
wait ... i have an idea |
| 19:35 |
kraftb |
i give bottom-container a border |
| 19:43 |
uschi |
are you fiddling around with css stuff, kraftb and bedlamhote1 ? |
| 19:45 |
bedlamhote1 |
uschi: yes. On and off... |
| 19:45 |
uschi |
what page? |
| 19:45 |
uschi |
in these questions even i can be of use sometimes |
| 19:45 |
bedlamhote1 |
*LOL* |
| 19:46 |
bedlamhote1 |
Pasted in from earlier: |
| 19:46 |
bedlamhote1 |
(12:00:44 PM) kraftb: http://hc.projects.think-open.at |
| 19:46 |
bedlamhote1 |
(12:00:44 PM) kraftb: User: hcdemo |
| 19:46 |
bedlamhote1 |
(12:00:44 PM) kraftb: Pass: tmqsht |
| 19:46 |
uschi |
well with my useradministration i do not get any further |
| 19:46 |
bedlamhote1 |
...and http://think-open.org/kraftb/bug.png showing the problem. |
| 19:46 |
andreasbalzer |
how long does it take, until an extension is online on TER? |
| 19:50 |
uschi |
bedlamhote1, i do not see the bug, neither in ie nor ff |
| 19:50 |
uschi |
ie6 |
| 19:50 |
kraftb |
ie6 |
| 19:50 |
kraftb |
only ie6 |
| 19:50 |
kraftb |
and click around some times |
| 19:50 |
uschi |
no prob there |
| 19:50 |
kraftb |
the bug appears randomly |
| 19:50 |
kraftb |
this is one of the problems |
| 19:50 |
kraftb |
on this page it happens very often: |
| 19:51 |
kraftb |
http://hc.projects.think-open.at/index.php?id=qualitaetsmanagement |
| 19:51 |
kraftb |
but only if you click on it via the menu |
| 19:51 |
kraftb |
not via direct link |
| 19:51 |
kraftb |
:( |
| 19:51 |
uschi |
some weird try to calculate with null instead of 0 i guess |
| 19:52 |
kraftb |
no js involved |
| 19:52 |
kraftb |
for height |
| 19:52 |
kraftb |
only one css expression |
| 19:52 |
uschi |
hm |
| 19:52 |
kraftb |
to simulate min/max width |
| 19:52 |
kraftb |
for scaling between 1024 and 800 |
| 19:52 |
uschi |
i am doing that as well |
| 19:52 |
kraftb |
have a look at struct.css |
| 19:52 |
kraftb |
fileadmin/templates/default/css/struct.css |
| 19:53 |
uschi |
kraftb, which link is that, if it only appears if i access the page via the menu |
| 19:53 |
kraftb |
it is the last problem on this page ... which is really nasty and i can't fix myself |
| 19:53 |
bedlamhote1 |
kraftb: a css EXPRESSION? Does the problem go away if you comment that out? |
| 19:53 |
uschi |
don't panic :) |
| 19:53 |
kraftb |
no ... the correct page appears |
| 19:53 |
kraftb |
but the bug only occurs when you enter a page via the menu |
| 19:53 |
kraftb |
at last thats what i noticed |
| 19:54 |
kraftb |
no .. bedlam |
| 19:54 |
kraftb |
i tried to remove the expression by a fixed width and the bug still appears |
| 19:54 |
uschi |
i cannot find the menu entry for qualitaetsmanagement, kraftb |
| 19:54 |
kraftb |
Wir machen es möglich > Leistungen > Qualitätsmanagement |
| 19:55 |
uschi |
i suppose you need a *html {position: relative; height: 1%; overflow: visible} somewhere |
| 19:55 |
kraftb |
it should be highlighted in the left menu when you visit the page via the given link |
| 19:55 |
bedlamhote1 |
kraftb: I didn't see if you answered my question: the footer element is absolutely positioned, right? With respect to what element is it meant to be positioned? |
| 19:56 |
uschi |
kraftb, i cannot reproduce the error |
| 19:56 |
kraftb |
do you mean "bottom-container" ? |
| 19:57 |
kraftb |
fileadmin/templates/default/main.html |
| 19:57 |
kraftb |
is the template |
| 19:57 |
kraftb |
it's easier to read |
| 19:58 |
isolysis |
typo3 wont detect imagemagick, (win2003 install), what can I do? |
| 19:59 |
kraftb |
enter the correct path in the install tool |
| 19:59 |
kraftb |
In all configuration |
| 19:59 |
kraftb |
search for X11R6 |
| 20:00 |
bedlamhote1 |
kraftb: CSS question, not html. Which parent item of div.main-footer is positioned? |
| 20:00 |
bedlamhote1 |
...either absolutely or relatively? |
| 20:01 |
kraftb |
div.bottom-container |
| 20:01 |
kraftb |
is positioned relative |
| 20:03 |
uschi |
kraftb, try to give div#container the code mentioned above |
| 20:03 |
andreasbalzer |
I just found out, that today is a wondeful day, because I can say "Hello World" in TER :) *well.. i hope that my ext is included until midnight ;) * |
| 20:03 |
andreasbalzer |
However: There's a little problem.. ..it doesn't do anything. I have coded some files and rewritten tstidy to abcsstidy that should optimize css.. The problem: I have downloaded csstidy to my harddrive and installed my ext, but when I open the FE, nothing special happens on my screen. BE parts are working however.. |
| 20:03 |
andreasbalzer |
Can someone of you have a look upon please? |
| 20:03 |
andreasbalzer |
http://ess-erfurt.de/typo3_org/T3X_abcsstidy-0_0_1-z-200704022150.t3x |
| 20:03 |
andreasbalzer |
Thanks :) |
| 20:03 |
isolysis |
kraftb: i have tried entering the path name in install tool.. i have tried quite a few things, but it just wont detect it. i tried im 4.2.9, gm, and the latest im6, i gave all sorts of permissions and so on, i am running out of ideas now |
| 20:04 |
uschi |
quite often that solves the problem of buggy height calculations and guillotine effects |
| 20:05 |
andreasbalzer |
uschi: can you help me? |
| 20:05 |
uschi |
no, not at the moment, one at a time |
| 20:06 |
uschi |
kraftb, do you hear me, read me? |
| 20:06 |
bedlamhote1 |
kraftb: not a solution, but interesting to notice that div.main-footer is located at the TOP of div.bottom-container in Firefox (give it a height and a background colour, and you'll see what I mean...) |
| 20:10 |
uschi |
hm, somehow he is gone |
| 20:11 |
andreasbalzer |
hm.. |
| 20:11 |
kraftb |
stop |
| 20:11 |
kraftb |
i got it |
| 20:11 |
andreasbalzer |
hi awillys ;) |
| 20:11 |
Awillys |
hi there :) |
| 20:11 |
uschi |
solution, kraftb? |
| 20:12 |
kraftb |
i resorted the div's and removed two excess </div> at the end :) |
| 20:12 |
andreasbalzer |
do you have 3 min time? |
| 20:12 |
uschi |
hmmm, great, kraftb *smile* shit happens |
| 20:13 |
andreasbalzer |
uschi: do you have time now? ;;) |
| 20:13 |
uschi |
can someone please tell me, what has to be activated under include access list for an editor that is allowed to edit the page content but not to create new pages or delete pages? |
| 20:14 |
uschi |
no, andreasbalzer, i have an appointment tomorrow morning with a colleague, and i have to finish some things tonight |
| 20:14 |
andreasbalzer |
oh i c.. |
| 20:15 |
bedlamhote1 |
uschi: not sure if you mean using ACL or not, but in the usual setup, you need to grant permissions to the user/group to view and modify pages table, while ensuring that the pages are not owned by that user/group. This is something I have done many times by accident and found my editors could not create pages :) |
| 20:15 |
uschi |
no, still trying it the traditional way |
| 20:17 |
uschi |
look, so the pages have to be owned by which group then? the ones with higher rights? |
| 20:17 |
uschi |
i shall try it that way round |
| 20:18 |
uschi |
but how can the users with the lower rights have access to that page? |
| 20:18 |
bedlamhote1 |
uschi: Anyone else :) In many instances, we make pages up to a certain level owned by an admin user so that /nobody/ can change site layout... |
| 20:18 |
bedlamhote1 |
uschi: give them 'view' rights, but not edit/delete... |
| 20:19 |
bedlamhote1 |
Sorry, it's 'Show' in the Access module. |
| 20:19 |
uschi |
bedlamhote1, there are two groups for these pages |
| 20:19 |
uschi |
and then the other group will still be able to create and delete pages? |
| 20:20 |
bedlamhote1 |
Uschi: in principle, yes :) |
| 20:22 |
j0hndeere |
Good afternoon, friends. |
| 20:22 |
tuco |
good afternoon |
| 20:24 |
tuco |
I've installed an extension and in the manual from this is written that I have to do some TS. But I don't know where to enter the TS. |
| 20:25 |
uschi |
bedlamhote1, now the group with more rights cannot do anything anymore |
| 20:26 |
bedlamhote1 |
Uschi: know what a truth table is? |
| 20:27 |
bedlamhote1 |
Actually, I guess it wouldn't exactly be a truth table. In any case, I think you may have to diagram this to solve it. |
| 20:28 |
bedlamhote1 |
If the group with more rights has "Edit Page" rights in access module and the other group does not, I don't see what the problem could be...but I also have only the foggiest notion of what your groups/users /need/... |
| 20:29 |
uschi |
this means using be_acl, bedlamhotel |
| 20:29 |
bedlamhote1 |
But I thought you were not using that? |
| 20:29 |
uschi |
in principle i am trying to understand the permission system |
| 20:30 |
uschi |
so i have the two test groups from yesterday |
| 20:30 |
uschi |
main editors, who shall be allowed to create and delete pages and edit their content |
| 20:30 |
andreasbalzer |
does $params['pObj'] contain the id of the object it's related on? |
| 20:30 |
uschi |
and the dummies that may add content to them |
| 20:31 |
uschi |
the page is owen by a group that both of the others have as subgroups |
| 20:31 |
bedlamhote1 |
Then you can't do what you're after. Page owners /must/ be able to modify the table as far as I understand it. |
| 20:31 |
bedlamhote1 |
(the pages table that is) |
| 20:31 |
uschi |
but one problem seems to be, that when using templavoila, you need the right to modify the pages table, because there is stored which content elements are used on the page |
| 20:32 |
uschi |
i shall install be_acl now, and then the problem will be solved |
| 20:32 |
uschi |
if be_acl works, that means |
| 20:32 |
bedlamhote1 |
This was (in general) what I was talking about when I said you needed to make your groups more fine-grained. Break them up a little--there's no reason why you can't have a set of nested groups three layers deep... |
| 20:33 |
uschi |
yes, but which of them has to be the ownergroup, and which permissions i have to grant to that group |
| 20:35 |
bedlamhote1 |
No. That's exactly what I mean. You could, for example, break out ownership for pages table into a whole separate group and include it in one editors group, but not the other... |
| 20:35 |
uschi |
so how can the other then edit the pages content |
| 20:36 |
uschi |
this is what i do not understand |
| 20:37 |
uschi |
i will give it a try with be_acl |
| 20:37 |
uschi |
because, maybe i am the blind leading the blind in our group, but if i cannot figure it out after three days, then the rest of us will be unable to administer the system |
| 20:38 |
bedlamhote1 |
uschi: /ownership/ is different from /edit/ permissions. Access module versus permissions in BE User groups. |
| 20:39 |
uschi |
let us talk about owner and ownergroup |
| 20:40 |
uschi |
i mean, you can grant the right to modify tt_content, but WHERE you can modify it, is defined via Web=>Access |
| 20:40 |
uschi |
right? |
| 20:41 |
bedlamhote1 |
uschi: yes, effectively. Though what I believe is really going on is that the be-user simply cannot SEE other pages and therefore can't change content in them. |
| 20:41 |
uschi |
the problem is, that the owner itself is of no use to me |
| 20:42 |
uschi |
they have to see other pages, because otherwise they will not be able to set links properly |
| 20:42 |
uschi |
this is a misconception in t3 |
| 20:42 |
bedlamhote1 |
Actually, no that was not correct. BE user dbmount controls the WHERE. |
| 20:43 |
bedlamhote1 |
That' is a problem with db mount in BE user record. |
| 20:43 |
uschi |
yes, and if they need a db-mount for the whole tree, because otherwise they are not able to set links e.g. in rte, then this is silly |
| 20:43 |
bedlamhote1 |
Ownership is ENTIRELY different. Are you looking at the Access Module? |
| 20:43 |
tuco |
I've installed an extension and in the manual from this is written that I have to do some TS. But I don't know where to enter the TS. |
| 20:43 |
uschi |
yes, and somehow i have to solve it |
| 20:44 |
uschi |
yes |
| 20:44 |
bedlamhote1 |
Are you sure? Because ownership solves both of your problems: users can still see the tree, but they cannot alter pages in it. Permissions in the BE user record allow them to change content inside pages. |
| 20:45 |
uschi |
yes, but i have two user groups on the same page |
| 20:45 |
uschi |
and i cannot make both of them ownergroups |
| 20:46 |
bedlamhote1 |
Now you're going in circles. You do NOT need to. |
| 20:46 |
uschi |
and if i remove the permission to create and delete pages, then both groups will not be able to create and delete pages |
| 20:47 |
uschi |
so how can i do it then? |
| 20:47 |
bedlamhote1 |
Make a new group, assign ownership of pages to that group only. Assign that group to one of your editor groups, but not the other. I've been saying this since yesterday at least :) |
| 20:48 |
uschi |
yes, but how can those other editors then edit the content of those pages |
| 20:48 |
bedlamhote1 |
Editors do NOT need to own pages to edit tt_content records. |
| 20:49 |
uschi |
hm, but that means they will be able to do it all over the tree, and they shall be ownly allowed to do this on a certain part of the page tree |
| 20:50 |
bedlamhote1 |
No. Because the ownership group can own some pages, but not all... |
| 20:50 |
uschi |
yes, and then? |
| 20:51 |
uschi |
who will own the other pages? the minor editors? |
| 20:51 |
uschi |
then the major editors will not be able to delete them |
| 20:51 |
bedlamhote1 |
Admin user is a reasonable default: then you can open up editing on pages as it becomes necessary. |
| 20:52 |
uschi |
we will need 50 admin users then |
| 20:52 |
uschi |
with access to each and everything |
| 20:53 |
bedlamhote1 |
Whoa. Back up a step: we just said that there could be a group that owned pages, and that the major editor group would inherit rights of that group, so why would major editors not be able to delete them? |
| 20:54 |
uschi |
because of the fact, that the minor editors need the right to modify the pages table |
| 20:54 |
uschi |
at least when you are using tv, because every time you add or remove a content element this is stored in the pages table as well |
| 21:18 |
ndee |
hey ries, are you around? |
| 21:18 |
Ries |
ey ndee |
| 21:19 |
ndee |
hey Ries, didn't you write a script which crawls your own page? |
| 21:20 |
Ries |
ndee: not yet... |
| 21:20 |
ndee |
Ries: ah okay. I'm fighting once again with performance problems. |
| 21:21 |
ndee |
I made a test to our webserver, 10 concurrent sessions, 100 requests.... 47 requests get dropped with Apache Benchmark. |
| 21:21 |
Ries |
ndee: use mno go search if it's simple non loggedin users searches only |
| 21:21 |
ndee |
I have the feeling that typo3(whole php & mysql stuff) is the bottleneck. |
| 21:21 |
Ries |
with indexed search it is |
| 21:21 |
ndee |
I don't have a search on the page itself actually. |
| 21:22 |
ndee |
I have to say, the home itself, on the test that I did, is 200kb but still, 47% requests drops? that's just.... crazy. |
| 22:06 |
j0hndeere |
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH NETSPLUT |
| 22:07 |
bedlamhote1 |
Wow, what just happened? |
| 22:07 |
j0hndeere |
the world ended :( |
| 22:09 |
bedlamhote1 |
So how did /we/ survive? |
| 22:10 |
Stasik |
hello |
| 22:11 |
Stasik |
my indexed_search does not cache tt_news |
| 22:11 |
Stasik |
why? |
| 22:11 |
j0hndeere |
we must be the Chosen ones. |
| 22:11 |
j0hndeere |
except delmonico, who apparently just can't find a functional IRC client for his life. |
| 22:12 |
j0hndeere |
Stasik: Beats me. Checked your settings? |
| 22:12 |
Stasik |
all default |
| 22:14 |
Stasik |
hmm |
| 22:14 |
Sunhco |
anyone feel like giving me some pointers on where to find some info on how to do something? =P |
| 22:14 |
j0hndeere |
Suncho: Depends on what you want to do. |
| 22:14 |
j0hndeere |
Total world domination, I might be able to help you with; UNIX programming, not so much. |
| 22:15 |
Suncho |
hehe |
| 22:15 |
Suncho |
well I have a website with user logins, but I want to associate information with each user |
| 22:15 |
Suncho |
and I want them to be able to update that information |
| 22:15 |
Suncho |
the front end users |
| 22:15 |
Ries |
j0hndeere: what planet are you from? |
| 22:16 |
j0hndeere |
Ries: ?\?¦& |
| 22:16 |
Ries |
hahaha... |
| 22:16 |
j0hndeere |
Suncho: User profile-type stuff? |
| 22:16 |
Suncho |
yeah |
| 22:16 |
Suncho |
and maybe some other things too |
| 22:17 |
Suncho |
I want them to be able to report how many hours they've been throwing the disc |
| 22:17 |
Suncho |
it's a website for my ultimate frisbee team |
| 22:18 |
Suncho |
eventually I want to have a calendar where the various users can sign up for events |
| 22:18 |
cboltz |
Can someone help me with tt_board? |
| 22:18 |
Suncho |
but... right now I just want to figure out how to associate information with each user |
| 22:18 |
Suncho |
or if there's an extension for it |
| 22:18 |
cboltz |
I don't see the input form :-( |
| 22:18 |
Suncho |
or what I'd have to do to write my own |
| 22:19 |
j0hndeere |
grab the extension kit and a tutorial from typo3.org and let 'er rip :) |
| 22:20 |
Suncho |
any specific tutorial? =P |
| 22:20 |
Suncho |
the one that goes with the kit? |
| 22:21 |
Suncho |
anyway thanks |
| 22:21 |
j0hndeere |
http://typo3.org/documentation/document-library/tutorials/player_profile_basic/current/ |
| 22:21 |
Suncho |
thanks |
| 22:21 |
Ries |
Denyerec: ? |
| 22:21 |
Ries |
is Denyerec dude here? |
| 22:21 |
j0hndeere |
generally though, just poke around here: http://typo3.org/documentation/ |
| 22:21 |
j0hndeere |
Hasn't been active for awhile, Ries |
| 22:21 |
gerards |
he said he was gone for a while. |
| 22:22 |
gerards |
j0hndeere: i always wanted to know, when you visit us on earth, which city do you normally reside? |
| 22:23 |
j0hndeere |
Quite far from any city, gerards. |
| 22:23 |
j0hndeere |
I believe the nearest city of significance from this part of the planet would be Nashville, Tennessee, or perhaps Atlanta, Georgia. |
| 22:24 |
j0hndeere |
no... definitely Nashville. |
| 22:27 |
Ries |
j0hndeere: you sound like a extraterrestrial from the 50st... |
| 22:43 |
Stasik |
hello i have a problem |
| 22:43 |
Stasik |
my typo3 does not index anylonger :( |
| 23:11 |
Denyerec |
andreas? |
| 23:12 |
Denyerec |
Ries I have returned |
| 23:34 |
MrZone |
hello |
| 23:35 |
MrZone |
anyone got time to point a newbie in the right direction? |
| 23:37 |
gerards |
MrZone: just ask. |
| 23:37 |
gerards |
its a little late for most of the americans. |
| 23:38 |
gerards |
MrZone: your best bet is just to ask and wait. |
| 23:38 |
j0hndeere |
pfffffffffffffffft. It's not even 8 PM on the US east coast. That isn't late |
| 23:38 |
j0hndeere |
that's early for many hacker types ;) |
| 23:40 |
gerards |
j0hndeere: you still in office? |
| 23:41 |
Denyerec |
It's late for people with jobs :) |
| 23:42 |
gerards |
"my friend's got a girlfriend and he hates that chick" |
| 23:43 |
gerards |
Say no way, say no way ya, no way |
| 23:43 |
gerards |
na-na, why don't you get a job? |
| 23:44 |
MrZone |
I guess your right, since i'm still here at work :) |
| 23:45 |
gerards |
:) MrZone we never did hear your question. j0hndeere will have to go back to his mother ship soon, so you shoud just ask. |
| 23:50 |
Denyerec |
Ixnay on the Hombre gerards? |
| 23:51 |
gerards |
gsh i don't remember. |
| 23:51 |
gerards |
its such an old song. |
| 23:51 |
gerards |
oh Denyerec ries was lookin' fer ya. |
| 23:52 |
Denyerec |
Yeah so I saw |
| 23:52 |
Denyerec |
I was out at dinner |
| 23:52 |
Denyerec |
(Friends house) |
| 23:52 |
Denyerec |
and now I've got to get to bed, which SUCKS as he was trying to help me :( |
| 23:53 |
MrZone |
well i'm just having trouble getting started with the dummy, I read lots of the doc and i'm still stuck |
| 23:54 |
MrZone |
i haved watched the videos too have i install many other cms before |
| 23:54 |
gerards |
MrZone: LAMP? |
| 23:54 |
MrZone |
but no matter what i do, my front-end displays "No pages are found on the rootlevel!" |
| 23:55 |
gerards |
MrZone: linux or windows? |
| 23:55 |
gerards |
oh... I think the dummy has no pages. |
| 23:56 |
gerards |
MrZone: you need to create teh pages yourself. |
| 23:56 |
gerards |
can you get into the Backend (henceforth known as BE)? |
| 23:56 |
MrZone |
linux and window, and yes i can access the BE |
| 23:56 |
Denyerec |
meh I have to sleep |
| 23:56 |
gerards |
night. |
| 23:57 |
Denyerec |
gerards if you see Ries online again, tell him I'm sorry I was not back sooner :( |
| 23:57 |
Denyerec |
I will be in again tomorrow. |
| 23:57 |
MrZone |
goodnight |
| 23:57 |
gerards |
k |
| 23:57 |
gerards |
MrZone: can you just put the lines page=PAGE |
| 23:57 |
Denyerec |
gnight |
| 23:57 |
gerards |
page.10 = TEXT |
| 23:57 |
gerards |
page.10.value = denyrec is sleeping |
| 23:57 |
gerards |
in your template? and tell us what happens. |
| 23:59 |
MrZone |
where do i put "page=PAGE". Do i first create a new page? |
| 23:59 |
gerards |
yes. |
| 23:59 |
gerards |
#1 create a page in the BE |
| 23:59 |
gerards |
#2 create a template record on that page. |
| 23:59 |
gerards |
#3 edit the template and place those 3 lines in "setup" |
