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01:14 Jon_yoosic anyone here?
01:14 Jon_yoosic trying to get typo3 up and running on a yahoo small business hosted site
01:37 Ries Hey Jon_yoosic
01:37 Jon_yoosic hi Ries
01:38 Ries Jon_yoosic: I don't know yahoo small business site
01:38 Ries But what is the problem?
01:38 Jon_yoosic yahoo small buisness = webhosting from yahoo with PHP/MySQL
01:38 Jon_yoosic I can connect using phpmyadmin, but the same user/pass in the install tool dont work
01:40 Ries Jon_yoosic: typo3 reports that it couldn't connect?
01:41 Jon_yoosic yes
01:41 Jon_yoosic tried connecting to both localhost as well as allencountylp.org
01:42 Ries what is the host you give on yahoo?
01:43 Ries I mean, on phpmyadmin tool
01:43 Jon_yoosic it says "MySQL 4.1.14 running on allencountylp.org as allencountylp@localhost"
01:43 Ries and I assume you run phpmyadmin of the same location as typo3?
01:43 Jon_yoosic I think so, someone else set up phpmyadmin so I cant be sure
01:45 Jon_yoosic phpinfo has these two variables set "MYSQL_HOST mysql-3-1-a
01:45 Jon_yoosic MYSQL_PORT 126"
01:45 Jon_yoosic does that mean mysql is running on a different port, or that phpinfo just has some wierd entries in it?
01:46 Ries that doesn't sound right.... but I cannot verify that right now
01:46 Ries can you verify that on a other server?
01:48 Jon_yoosic no. how can I tell typo to use a different port?
01:51 Ries I don't think you can using the install tool
01:51 Ries But poty 126 sounds weird
01:51 Jon_yoosic 12697
01:52 Ries That might be the client side...
01:53 Jon_yoosic ok, i found the numeric ip and im trying that
01:53 Ries (Y)
02:01 Jon_yoosic i found some answers, some phpBB users had the same trouble
02:01 Jon_yoosic thank you Ries
02:02 Ries may I ask what the problem is/was?
02:03 Jon_yoosic Yes, in yahoo the server needs to be set as 'mysql'
02:04 Jon_yoosic it doesnt automatically map localhost out to wherever the sql server lives
02:04 Ries localhost is localhost.... (127.0.0.1)
02:04 Ries properly they have mysql mapped to some IP....
02:04 Ries using a hosts file
02:04 Ries interesting that they don't use a domain name then
02:04 Jon_yoosic very
02:05 Jon_yoosic but since its yahoo (really big) and I know yahoo also uses akamai (even bigger) to spread the load out it makes sense
02:05 Jon_yoosic it was just hard to find the right answer
02:07 Jon_yoosic now the fun part, spending saturday night moving content!!! :D
02:10 Ries Jon_yoosic: hehehe... that doesn't sounds like fun :)
02:11 Ries I am working with dojo right now on a typo3 FE, mamanging directories using RPC requests...
02:11 Jon_yoosic eww RPC
02:11 Jon_yoosic what is dojo?
02:13 Ries if you write a FE extensions with forms, ajax and stuff then check here : http://www.dojotoolkit.org/
02:15 Jon_yoosic thats nice!
02:19 Ries it's a kinda heavy weight toolkit
02:19 Ries But makes life really easy
02:19 Ries I was tellign some other guy
02:19 Ries to make a tree structure to move directories around on the file server
02:19 Ries I need about 1-3 lines of javascript code
02:19 Ries and the rest is all pure PHP
02:23 Ries alright, down to 2 lines of code :)
02:24 Ries and 240 lines of php code
02:24 Jon_yoosic hehe
02:24 Jon_yoosic I'm doing a lot with Ruby on Rails at work nopw
02:25 Jon_yoosic the joke is that a good Ruby on Rails developer spends 10 minutes turning 100lines of php into 2 lines of ruby, then he spends another day to get it down to one line
02:25 Ries I have heard a lot about it, but never did anythign with it
02:26 Ries ruby seems to be very populair.... But not well accepted in the industry...
02:27 Ries We got the advice from some company to start working with java using liferay as an CMS and jboss as the application server
02:27 Ries currently I see ruby like a CRUD kinda MVC framework...... sorry about that :)
02:28 Jon_yoosic It is an impressive platform that supports rapid development. If you can host your own stuff (like my employer) its worth a look, but none of the big webhosts support it yet
02:28 Ries I have my own server, so I could do that...
02:28 Jon_yoosic It is kind of slow (limited threading support), but it lets you worry about the application and not all the DB and networking that drives it
02:28 Ries and I remember now I tool a quick look around 1 year ago... but just like a day
02:29 Ries But couldn0t get something runnign with our DB design...
02:29 Ries and I didn0t understand the template system well
02:29 Ries and seemed taht with our current DB design we had to do a lot of coding ourselve
02:29 Jon_yoosic As good as you are with Typo and PHP it doesnt seem like a good idea for you to change
02:30 Ries well, we got teh advice to change to java, so we will take a look..
02:30 Ries but it will not be for a year untill we are going to do anything seriously with java
02:30 Ries we will work with flex2 however and flex data services in java...
02:30 Ries we will see...
02:30 Ries I need to think about the feature to... I am not sure of ruby is a good feature for me
02:31 Jon_yoosic I try to choose the right tool for the job.
02:34 Ries but one can learn just so much tools....
02:34 Ries some tools are better then teh other to do a job...
02:34 Ries But once you know one tool really well,
02:34 Ries then it's ok to...
03:01 Jon_yoosic Ergh. Ok the site is up, news is working, cal base is working. Looks horrid but I can fix the CSS tomorrow
03:01 Jon_yoosic Time to get some sleep!
03:01 Jon_yoosic Gute Nacht all!!
06:31 uschi koomi are you there?
06:39 uschi bedlamhotel, you there?
06:39 uschi still?
06:39 bedlamhotel uschi: hello. Just came home.
06:40 uschi had a party?
06:42 bedlamhotel At the movies :)
06:43 uschi ah
06:44 bedlamhotel You're TYPO3-ing at 8:00 Sunday morning?
06:44 uschi 9:57
06:44 uschi 8:57
06:44 uschi yes, i am
06:44 uschi it is a lovely morning, and i went to bed relatively early yesterday
06:45 uschi everyone else is still fast asleep
06:45 uschi i am still fighting with sr_feuser_register
06:46 bedlamhotel With what? [That thing is a glaring example of TYPO3's most absurd problem--form handling...]
06:47 uschi seems to be so, yes
06:47 bedlamhotel [...the fact that I need to customize four virtually identical sets of forms makes me furious every single time...]
06:47 bedlamhotel ...especially since they're so damned LONG...
06:47 uschi i did not even customize anything yet
06:47 uschi morning koomi_
06:48 uschi but i am asking myself, why they did not think about what fieldsets are for
06:48 bedlamhotel Sorry. The thought of doing that much work in a CMS (supposedly a time-saving tool) gets me all worked up. That and the /ridiculous/ english translations in it...
06:48 uschi the german is not any better
06:49 bedlamhotel uschi: I noticed. Fieldsets without forms and other weirdnesses...
06:49 uschi suggestion: you doing the english part, me the german
06:49 uschi yeah, and titles in legend that are five miles long
06:50 uschi the point of fieldsets is to bring order into forms
06:50 uschi not having just one big fieldset where everything is just ordered like it comes out of the database
06:51 bedlamhotel Not a bad idea--though that's another thing that makes me irritable about that extension: content in email messages and other parts where the markers are split up in such a way that makes it difficult to compose a message even slightly differently than the default. What's wrong with ONE subpart for the messages anyways?
06:51 bedlamhotel uschi: indeed.
06:52 bedlamhotel I feel the need to correct the english in almost every piece of TYPO3 documentation I find...the TSref in particular....
06:52 uschi well this has to be done by people who a) know typo3 and ts b) are native speakers of english
06:53 bedlamhotel Yes, exactly. It would also help if (c) they've lived inside Kasper's head.
06:53 uschi by the way: re-join or rejoin?
06:54 uschi do not blame him, i think, he just tried hard to do it in english
06:54 bedlamhotel uschi: not much difference. If the context was very about reassembling something (rather than meeting somebody at a later time), I might opt for 're-join' occasionally, but I also like to use dashes :)
06:55 uschi i will never know how those dashing works in english :)
06:55 bedlamhotel Not blaming Kasper a bit...it's just that I think understanding his thinking would shed a lot of light on why TYPO3 works the way it does. /That/ would be helpful in writing documents...
06:56 uschi i just asked, because the german version is awfull because of wrong dashing or not dashing all the time
06:56 uschi from the outermost and from behind :)
06:57 bedlamhotel Dashes: no really solid rules in english that I know of. My impression is that the most common usage is to omit dashes between prefixes and other words.
06:58 bedlamhotel Yes. Like he had to sneak up on the solutions to problems :)
06:58 uschi no, i think he was working on arrays, and had the same problem as i have
06:59 uschi with array_push() and array_pop()
06:59 uschi so he visualised the staple of cards
07:00 bedlamhotel Right.
07:03 uschi and, by the way, the purpose of a cms is to save time for the editors and website users, not necessarily for the developers or admins
07:03 uschi perhaps it should save time with the admins
07:04 bedlamhotel uschi: I beg to differ. TYPO3 is, IMO, very obviously a tool directed at making life easier for developers in particular.
07:05 bedlamhotel ...to make it easier for developers to deliver a product to admins and end users with the advantages you've mentioned though, to be sure.
07:06 uschi ok :)
07:09 uschi bedlamhotel, which version of sr_feuser_register are you using
07:10 bedlamhotel I think this is one of the reasons for the quarterly and obligatory rant on the english list about how TYPO3 is too hard to use for beginners. Even though there's surely some truth to the complaint, my impression is that it usually comes from people who need /one/ not-too-sophisticated website...and it's simply not a good use of anyone's time to learn TYPO3 to build one website unless you /really/ need what it has to offer...
07:10 bedlamhotel One second, I will check. Probably latest version.
07:12 bedlamhotel 2.5.6. I have seen people (I think it's mostly actually /one/ person) recommend downgrading to v 2.5.5 on the English list. I have not tested this version thoroughly enough to know if that's good advice or not.
07:12 bedlamhotel ...though I can a) register, b) login...haven't tried the edit and save business yet.
07:13 uschi hm, there are two versions of 2.5.6
07:13 uschi the editing works fine
07:14 uschi registering: hm, i am not really sure at the moment
07:14 bedlamhotel Wait: there are TWO versions of 2.5.6?
07:14 uschi it works, but has some erratic flaws i have not figured out
07:14 uschi yes!
07:14 uschi last week there was a new version of 2.5.6!
07:15 bedlamhotel registering works here. Editing seems not to work. this version is more than a week old though.
07:15 uschi registering was a problem at first when using kb_md5fepw
07:16 bedlamhotel No, editing in the version I've got seems to be fubared. Was the same complaint user in the English list had.
07:16 bedlamhotel ...keeps erroring out on the email address in the profile...
07:16 uschi yeah, but that works with the new version
07:17 uschi only thing that does not work currently is the "delete your account"-link
07:17 bedlamhotel And the other complaint I've heard--that there is no confirmation step on profile deletion--also seems to be true.
07:17 bedlamhotel Oh :)
07:18 uschi if you do not insert the plugin again with display mode: delete, then the link does absolutely nothing
07:18 bedlamhotel Just going to delete the installed version and get the new one.
07:18 uschi are you using directmail?
07:18 bedlamhotel 'insert the plugin again' == 'two versions of the plugin on the same page'?
07:18 uschi yes
07:19 uschi because there is no such thing as a deletePID, or i am blind
07:19 uschi this is just what i observed
07:19 bedlamhotel Aha. Not in constants, or not in constants OR setup?
07:19 uschi neither nor, but please do go through constants and setup.txt
07:20 uschi i read it at least 5 times
07:20 bedlamhotel Not using direct_mail on this site at the moment. I /intend/ to, but since this one is free and very behind schedule already, it may be a while before I get around to that...
07:21 uschi but you have used it before?
07:21 bedlamhotel Yes. Got a test site running with it about 2 months ago.
07:21 uschi ok
07:22 uschi and do you use kb_md5fepw?
07:22 bedlamhotel Hm. Turns out the delete button did NOT delete the profile--just directed me to front page without changing a thing...
07:23 bedlamhotel ...and this thing still dislikes my email address (says it's a duplicate).
07:23 uschi there is a configuration for that
07:23 uschi somewhere, uniqueEmail something
07:23 uschi i had this prob with one user
07:23 bedlamhotel Never had any particular need for kb_md5fepw (most of my sites and the sites I build for my regular job have very few administrators and fewer fe users)
07:24 uschi security risk though
07:24 bedlamhotel Not that I can see.
07:25 uschi sure, if you have plaintext passwords in a db, where the access to the db is stored inside htdocs
07:25 bedlamhotel Only a security risk if somebody already has access to the BE, or via a 'man in the middle' situation, but I don't see what anybody could gain by that approach.
07:26 bedlamhotel yes, quite true, but db access is the prize not because of the fe-user passwords, but because it gives total access to the CMS.
07:28 bedlamhotel ...and barring a fairly severe server misconfiguration (that e.g. serves up php docs as plaintext), anybody able to read localconf.php has /already/ compromised the account where the cms is running.
07:29 uschi yes, but i am sure that bernhard has not written this extension for no reason
07:30 bedlamhotel Well, the real advantage to it as far as I can tell (based on a very cursory reading of the docs) is not in the /storage/ of the password, but in the /transmission/ of it from client to server. Potentially eliminates the 'man in the middle' approach altogether.
07:31 uschi but if i want to use something like simulatebe, i will need it, right?
07:31 bedlamhotel I don't actually know what 'simulatebe' is...
07:31 bedlamhotel :)
07:31 uschi a way to marry a be-user to a fe-user
07:31 bedlamhotel as with timtaw?
07:32 bedlamhotel (it does this or similar)
07:32 uschi so he/she logs in the fe and be at the same time
07:33 bedlamhotel You may very well be right though--if fe user's password does travel plaintext /and/ it enables some degree of BE access, then I would want to close that loophole. In usual FE user context (no db writing outside of profile), it seems like not such a big deal.
07:34 uschi yeah, true
07:34 uschi but as soon as you have a forum or something else, this counts as well
07:34 uschi mind you, we had this problem
07:35 uschi the server got hacked through one unsecure script
07:35 bedlamhotel In any case, I must go to bed. Rather dreadfully, I have to spend part of the morning at Ikea :-s
07:35 uschi i love ikea :)))))))
07:36 uschi good night, bedlamhotel :)
07:36 bedlamhotel Yes. A client's TYPO3 install got temporarily turned into a fake bank of america phishing site recently...not TYPO3's fault as far as the sever admins could determine.
07:36 bedlamhotel (I shouldn't say 'turned into', I should say 'was "enhanced" with'...)
07:37 uschi yeah, that was the problem with us as well
07:37 bedlamhotel Ikea is ok, but I have been forced to spend quite a bit of time on the weekends lately installing kitchens and so on. Tired of playing 'builder' :-)
07:37 bedlamhotel See you later on
07:38 uschi ok :)
08:01 uschi morning dax77 and andreasbalzer :)
08:02 andreasbalzer hi :)
08:02 dax77 gooooooood morning @all :)
08:08 uschi dax77, you are not incidentally working under windows?
08:08 dax77 ope
08:08 dax77 n
08:08 dax77 mac
08:08 andreasbalzer i am.. if it helps you
08:09 uschi andreasbalzer, do you use 'symlinks' under windows?
08:09 andreasbalzer no
08:09 uschi ok, then you cannot help me :)
08:09 andreasbalzer ;)
08:10 andreasbalzer damn it.. i have to go offline for a while... my other computer wants to get updated... afk 4 30 min ;)
08:38 DonJ Hi, I'm trying to use htmlArea RTE but I always only get: "The editor is being loaded. Please wait..."
08:38 DonJ any ideas what I'm doing wrong?
08:38 DonJ version 1.4.4
08:39 uschi and which Typo3-Version?
08:39 DonJ 4.1.1
08:40 uschi you cannot use 1.4.x with 4.1.1
08:40 uschi uninstall the local version and use the one delivered with the core
08:42 DonJ ok that worked. I though 1.4.4 was the newest version since I got that directly from http://typo3.org/extensions/ ..
08:42 DonJ thought
08:43 DonJ thx
08:43 uschi hm
08:43 uschi newest version there should be 1.4.6 (for typo3 < 4.1)
08:44 DonJ hmm I'm now using 1.5.2 ??
08:44 uschi yes, and that is right :)
08:44 DonJ that's the one which i got with core
08:44 DonJ kk
08:44 uschi this is the one to use :)
08:44 uschi in your case
08:45 DonJ well if u search for rtehtmlarea on the extension page it only shows 1.4.4
08:45 DonJ ic
09:02 koomi mornings
09:15 cipherz hello, I have problems with 4.0.1 and the rte, if I set lines to headings it looks fine in the rte but the html tags are printed on the output
09:27 cipherz ok so I needed to set up my contents, but thought these constants were inherited from the parent template
09:29 koomi cipherz: hmm. there's something wrong :)
09:30 koomi cipherz: configuration of the rte is done in the page ts - not in the template ts
09:30 koomi there's a box in the "page header" form where you can insert rte config stuff
09:31 cipherz well the rte worked perfectly
09:32 cipherz just when the output was shown it showed the html tags
09:32 cipherz so I added a styles.content.links.allowTags in all my templates, reloaded and it was working
09:32 cipherz had only added it to my master template :)
09:33 koomi constants are inherited too - as long as you don't "clear constants" in your extension template
09:34 cipherz hmmm let me check
09:34 cipherz where should I have done that ?
09:34 cipherz in the constants for the sub-template or ?
09:35 uschi in the page properties, cipherz
09:37 cipherz thanks :)
09:38 cipherz page properties as in the properties where you can setup the title/subtitle of the page ?
09:38 cipherz never mind found my error
09:38 cipherz thanks :)
09:48 elbart hi
09:52 uschi hi elbart
09:54 elbart if I send an newsletter, I should use a table layout, right?
10:01 CWIZO Hi all
10:01 CWIZO I have a problem with installing typo3...
10:01 CWIZO I downloaded the src+dumym package
10:02 CWIZO then I have run the install tool
10:02 CWIZO and so far everything is OK
10:02 CWIZO but then when I go to the backend and I try to login with the default u/p
10:02 CWIZO typo3 crashes with this error:
10:02 CWIZO Warning: mysql_fetch_assoc(): supplied argument is not a valid MySQL result resource in ...\t3lib\class.t3lib_db.php on line 796
10:03 CWIZO I am running windows vista with apache...
10:03 CWIZO and my MySQL instalation is working properly as I have other sites that work quite nice...
10:03 CWIZO I really don't know what I am missing here...
10:04 CWIZO and my typo db is showing 27 tables...
10:05 CWIZO oh I am installing typo3 4.1 ...
10:05 CWIZO and I have flowed the t3 wiki for this install
10:05 CWIZO without any luck
10:06 CWIZO and I am trying to install it for 4 days now...
10:06 CWIZO well aparently nobody is here...
10:06 cipherz anyone have experience with authservice extensions and typo3 4.0.1/4.1
10:41 uschi hey dokma
10:58 dokma hey
10:58 dokma how is your setup rolling?
11:02 uschi still encountering problems with this delete link
11:03 uschi but other than that, well
11:03 uschi dokma, what is a DCC chat list?
11:03 dokma aint got a clue
11:03 dokma I guess something irc related
11:03 dokma i thought it was going to open a chat win
11:04 uschi ok, i had one with you
11:04 uschi no i canceled it
11:05 dokma just a sec
11:05 dokma ill be back
11:08 uschi ok, i will have my shower (Dusche)
11:47 tilman_ Hi everybody: I made a userfunction which presents a form-select on the frontend. How can I tell typo3 to use the submitted post-var to add on every link in the page ?
11:57 dokma uschi
12:09 koomi hmm. jm_gallery is against me
12:09 koomi i get function calls on non objects, no album view
12:09 koomi something is wrooong
12:11 uschi yeaah koomi
12:11 uschi *sigh*
12:16 m4rtijn helo
12:22 drcode hi all
12:22 drcode any one up
12:23 m4rtijn yes
12:23 drcode typo3 can also work with sqlite?
12:24 drcode or other flat db ?
12:25 Ries drcode: theoraticly yes
12:26 drcode k
12:26 drcode any one check it?
12:26 elbart does anybody has already worked with tcdirectmail?
12:27 drcode is typo3 like mambo or joomla?
12:27 drcode what it mean framework/
12:27 drcode It mean I can develope CMS?
12:28 m4rtijn ?
12:29 uschi afaik, typo3 is more powerfull than mambo or joomla
12:29 uschi i am not quite sure what you mean by 'can develop CMS'
12:30 drcode I mean it come with forum , templates and so?
12:30 Ries good afternoon uschi
12:30 drcode is it like portal?
12:30 Ries drcode: you can create a portal
12:30 drcode I can build my portal there?
12:30 uschi hello Ries :))
12:30 Ries drcode: typo3 by itself is nothing.... it's like Lego (tm)
12:30 drcode is there ready made template for portal I can use?
12:30 drcode k
12:30 drcode I see
12:30 Ries drcode: you start building from nothing and you are the person that put's it together
12:31 drcode but is there some template of portal ready made?
12:31 m4rtijn check the extensions on typo3.org drcode
12:31 Ries I am now making a community sort of site
12:31 drcode k
12:31 Ries byt for a other company I am making a portal
12:31 drcode k
12:31 Ries and for myself I just have a normal website
12:31 drcode what about forums?
12:31 m4rtijn .. :) www.typo3.org click extensions
12:31 m4rtijn and search for forums
12:32 drcode k
12:32 Ries there are two or tree forum extensions... But they are not as powerfull as phpBB or vBuletin
12:32 m4rtijn normally in the online manual there are screenshots
12:32 uschi and, drcode, there is a new one, that is not in ter, and might be really good
12:32 drcode m4rtijn: you think it will run with sqlite also?
12:32 andreasbalzer the best T3 board is chc_forum
12:32 m4rtijn I dont know drcode.. but it should
12:32 Ries drcode: What do you want to run sqlite?
12:32 drcode I dont have mysql , its low cpu server
12:33 drcode yes
12:33 uschi perhaps soon not anymore, andreasbalzer, because typo3.net has published it's forum
12:33 Ries I thought so already
12:33 drcode so I prefer flat db
12:33 elbart has anybody used templavoila in combinationen with tcdirectmail?
12:33 andreasbalzer uschi: WHERE?
12:33 Ries if you have a low CPU server then don't use typo3...
12:33 andreasbalzer :)
12:33 drcode what cpu it need?
12:33 uschi go to typo3.net and search for mm_forum
12:33 Ries drcode: You need someting resonably resent
12:33 uschi it is not yet in TER but will go there soon
12:33 Ries like 2Ghz
12:33 Ries 1GB RAM
12:33 drcode no
12:33 drcode its lower
12:33 Ries a a faster HD
12:33 drcode k
12:34 drcode thanx
12:34 Ries you don't need something extreenly powerfull
12:34 Ries But typo3 uses more resources then some other light weight CMS''s out there
12:36 drcode k
12:36 drcode thanx
12:50 SkateTux hi
12:50 m4rtijn hi SkateTux
13:35 null0_ hello
13:36 tilman_ Hi
13:36 tilman_ Why is a condition like [globalVar = GP:style = 2] always true?
13:37 null0_ can someone tell me about typo 4.1.x and 4.0.x?
13:37 null0_ I always used 4.0.x, is there a reason to try the 4.1?
13:44 Ries null0_: The BE tree is now based on ajax and not on pageloads anymore
13:44 Ries wich can be handy for large page trees
13:45 null0_ ah.
13:45 null0_ hi Ries, thank you.
13:45 null0_ Is this the only difference between 4.1&4.0?
13:46 null0_ I prefer an typo instllation, i do now need to care much, about updates, and security fixes
13:47 null0_ ups. i meant, i do not have to care about security
13:49 Ries null0_: then install 4.1.1
13:50 null0_ ok.i hpe i do not get into trouble with FF :)
13:50 null0_ +o
13:52 tilman_ Why is a condition like [globalVar = GP:style = 2] always true?
14:34 |Awillys| hi there
14:34 |Awillys| anyone using an a web irc client on his page?
15:00 Affenbrotbaum Hey there
15:01 pwatol Is anyone here?
15:01 Affenbrotbaum not really
15:02 pwatol So nobody to try to help me figure out what the heck I'm doing wrong with typo3? :)
15:02 Affenbrotbaum well I can try
15:03 pwatol If you've been using it more than 2 days, you're probably ahead of me. I'm trying to build my first template, and for some reason the style sheet isn't working.
15:04 pwatol I mocked it up in MS FrontPage, and it looks fine. When I move it to my web host, the template shows up fine, but none of the css styles are showing up. The style sheet link is in the header, and the css file is where the link is pointing.
15:04 pwatol I've tried clearing the cache, and checked permissions on the css file.
15:05 pwatol Any ideas?
15:05 Affenbrotbaum query
15:06 pwatol Here's an example of what comes up: http://www.pwatol.us/typo3/index.php?id=41 - the menu text should be tan; that's one thing set in the css file.
15:07 Affenbrotbaum is the css file in the same directory ?
15:08 pwatol nope. The template file is in a directory called "main", the css file is in "main/res". But the css link in the header points to "main/res". Do they need to be in the same directory?
15:08 pwatol I'm cribbing heavily from the "Modern Template Building" document from the typo3 web site.
15:09 Ries pwatol: what template system are you using?
15:09 Ries templavoila?
15:11 Awillys any web IRC script user around?
15:11 pwatol Not to the best of my knowledge. I'm following the process laid out in the documentation I mentioned, and it walks you through turning a standard HTML file into a template with the assistance of automaketemplate. So I threw together a simple html file and I'm trying to get it to work as a template.
15:13 pwatol Everything was working right up until I tried to change the formatting using an external style sheet. The linkage appears to work fine when I view it in MS FrontPage (where I'm doing the basic html design), but it breaks down when I upload it.
15:14 Affenbrotbaum is it relative to the documet ?
15:14 Affenbrotbaum document ?
15:16 pwatol It is when I view it in FrontPage. The automaketemplate changes it from res/mibci.css to fileadmin/template/main/res/mibci.css
15:16 Affenbrotbaum try changing it to /fileadmin/template/main/res/mibci.css ....
15:18 Ries pwatol: then you use the classic template syste,
15:18 Ries pwatol: You can add teh CSS wto your site with teh folling TS
15:19 Ries age.includeCSS {
15:19 Ries file1 = fileadmin/templates/default/css/style.css
15:19 Ries }
15:19 Ries not age, but page
15:19 Ries page.includeCSS {
15:19 Ries file1 = fileadmin/templates/default/css/style.css
15:19 Ries }
15:19 Ries change the path to your CSS ofcourse
15:26 pwatol Ries: Nope. Still not working. Does typo3 need some sort of extension to recognize css files? I only just installed typo3 last week, and have just started with playing with it.
15:26 Affenbrotbaum css styled content
15:26 Affenbrotbaum have you included that in your template file ?
15:30 tritium hi there! is anyone willing to help me out with the phpmyadmin-extension? can't get it going. info says: No definition of TYPO3_MOD_PATH constant found inside! though everything seems to be ok!?
15:34 tritium i found a bug-notice where it's said that phpmyadmin has to be installed globally. i tried that - no success. still the same error message
15:52 hen^nn hey everybody
15:53 hen^nn where do you get your webspace from ? some advice would be very nice
15:53 hen^nn and
15:53 hen^nn what kind of websites did you already create using typo 3 ?
16:06 PaulLS .... is it impossible to use a script content element with TV?
16:06 PaulLS http://lists.netfielders.de/pipermail/typo3-english/2007-January/035236.html
17:02 Maddy hi
17:03 Maddy is anybody here using t3unit?
17:06 hen^nn sorry can't help you i'm noob ^^
17:08 Maddy I'm not I think, but I'm despaired
17:08 Maddy but okay, it's sunday ...
17:08 uschi poor Maddy :((
17:08 Maddy *gg* no way, sun is shining :)
17:10 Ries Maddy: never used it myself....
17:10 Ries I was reading that it was still a bit buggy.. I am not sure though
17:10 Maddy till yesterday it worked fine
17:10 Maddy okay, this is my problem:
17:11 Maddy ich copied a whole t3-system from one lokal server to another
17:11 Maddy all is working, all extensions do it fine
17:11 Maddy but t3unit shown me a white frame
17:11 Maddy *shows
17:12 Maddy and this is a big problem, because I develop an extension without frontend
17:18 hen^nn Ries are you there?
17:46 Rocketjock hello all
17:48 Ries hen^nn: I am
17:48 Ries but I am not to
17:59 hen^nn ah ries
18:00 hen^nn I understand what you mean, could you show me some projects you did with typo 3?
18:00 hen^nn if there are things you have to show :)
18:00 hen^nn *can
18:01 Jon_yoosic hen^nn: http://www.rvantwisk.nl
18:08 kraftb hello everyone !
18:09 uschi hi kraftb :)))))
18:09 kraftb wanna see a cool page i am working on currently - it is almost finished and i can show it
18:09 kraftb also it should not get public ....
18:09 kraftb too public
18:09 kraftb :)
18:09 hen^nn hey all
18:09 hen^nn yes
18:09 kraftb http://ikiwi.projects.think-open.at/
18:09 uschi yes please
18:09 kraftb demo / kiwi007
18:09 hen^nn i am new to this and want to see whats possible with typo 3
18:09 kraftb safari has problems with it ...
18:10 kraftb and for FF mac there is a question i have about video playing :)
18:10 uschi ah, i just realise, i know this page
18:10 kraftb ah yeah ... i showed it already once
18:11 kraftb it should go to the live-server tomorrow ...
18:11 Boonkerz so many video pages
18:11 uschi and you did not even tell us what the fix for ie was, finally
18:11 kraftb but there are still some annoying bugs and it doesn'T work quite well in safari
18:11 hen^nn very good indeed kraftb
18:12 kraftb hmmm ... what was the bug ?
18:12 kraftb :)
18:13 kraftb there were so many of them ....
18:13 uschi the rounded corners in the menus
18:13 kraftb ahh ... yeah .. the background of the menus didn't disappear
18:14 Boonkerz kraftb, work the stable with many user and kbshop ?
18:14 kraftb i just set the a tag (the one without :hover) background-image: url(clear.gif);
18:14 Boonkerz because the performance
18:14 Boonkerz :D
18:14 kraftb boonkerz: i guess ...
18:14 kraftb i tunes the FE-group selections
18:14 kraftb where fe_group like '%,bla' OR fe_group like
18:14 kraftb it brought about 10-20 % :)
18:14 kraftb or even more
18:14 kraftb now it only works on mysql ... but faster :)
18:14 kraftb one line in t3lib
18:15 kraftb even for all other queries
18:15 kraftb not only kb_shop queries
18:15 kraftb almost all FE queries
18:15 Jon_yoosic need some ideas. I currently have a PDF document that I want to show on the page, should I link to it or copy the whole text into a regular text item?
18:15 uschi that sounds interesting
18:15 uschi concerning fe-groups and stuff
18:15 Jon_yoosic I'd like to have it available on the web, and not as a PDF, because some of our users are uhhh slow
18:16 uschi kraftb, your user registration ... is that sr_feuser_register?
18:17 uschi or is it a home made chocolate pie?
18:17 Boonkerz looks like kb_shop
18:18 Boonkerz for fe user
18:19 kraftb http://think-open.org/kraftb/index/speedup_2007-04-22.diff
18:19 kraftb fe-user admin
18:19 kraftb is the registration + all other types of record creation
18:19 kraftb like playlists, video-groups, etc.
18:19 kraftb or even the video-upload is made using fe-user admin
18:19 kraftb i wonder what sr_feuser_register is for ....
18:20 uschi because then fe users can edit their profile, i thought
18:21 kraftb they can also with fe-user admin :)
18:21 uschi can they?
18:21 kraftb http://think-open.org/kraftb/index/speedup_2007-04-22.diff
18:21 kraftb this is the speedup patch
18:21 kraftb go into t3lib directory
18:21 kraftb type: patch -p 0 < /path/to/patch/speedup_2007-04-22.dif
18:21 Boonkerz on linux hehe
18:22 uschi not recommended on a lifeserver or is it?
18:22 kraftb should be no prob :)
18:22 kraftb it will up it to the liveserver tomorrow :)
18:22 Boonkerz when you use mysql
18:22 kraftb yes
18:22 kraftb of course ... mysql is a must
18:22 Boonkerz have :)
18:22 kraftb btw: anyone has a mac ?
18:23 uschi yes, but i hardly ever use it
18:23 uschi want a safari-check?
18:23 kraftb i need someone with a mac os x and FF telling me if the videos look ok there
18:23 kraftb my customer (which has a mac) has problems since recently
18:23 uschi i shall try
18:24 kraftb just look at a video .... at his box the buttons and other stuff is hidden and only appears when he moves the mouse over
18:24 kraftb the buttons of the player ... and other stuff = the video
18:25 Boonkerz i have a other problem when i open my site with an L=1 typo3 gernate not the links with this
18:26 Boonkerz http://www.thomaspeterson.de/index.php?id=75&L=1
18:27 kraftb config.linkVars = L
18:29 uschi kraftb, what were the access data again?
18:29 Rocketjock kraftb: the video is fine but the buttons disappear if I pause. I have to click on the video to restart then some of the buttons return
18:29 Boonkerz argh linkvars != linkVars
18:29 Rocketjock on mac, FF
18:30 Maddy can anybody tell me what goes wrong here: I install t3unit via the ExtMng, this says success. The T3Unit-BackendModule is loaded in section Tools an if I aktivate it, the content-frame of my backend is completly white.
18:30 uschi ah, got them
18:30 jananne Hello, is there any automatic install script for the installation of typo3 Unix based?
18:30 kraftb Rocketjock "some of them" ?
18:30 kraftb there is an overlay ... and the player get's hidden and an image with thumbnail, and related videos should get shown
18:31 kraftb when you hit the stop button
18:31 kraftb when you press the pause button nothing should happen
18:32 uschi kraftb, the buttons bar at the bottom of the video is nearly hidden
18:32 uschi i cannot hit the stop button
18:32 kraftb and when you move the mose over ...
18:32 kraftb damn
18:32 kraftb i need a mac
18:33 jananne Hello, is there any automatic install script for the installation of typo3 Unix based?
18:33 jananne sorry
18:33 uschi kraftb, my report
18:33 jananne was copy pasting :p
18:33 uschi if i mouse over the buttons bar, the left side with the stop button appears
18:34 uschi after i klicked it, the buttons bar shows up
18:34 Jon_yoosic is the Stock mail form in 4.0.5 considered secure?
18:34 Rocketjock kraftb: when I hit stop the related video get shown and the buttons return. if i restart the video all the buttons are ther until I hit pause again, then some dissapear again
18:34 kraftb hmmm .... it's different for rocketjock
18:34 uschi and if i then restart playing, it remains there
18:34 uschi no
18:35 kraftb ok ... when you hit stop
18:35 Rocketjock FF version 2.03
18:35 kraftb you see an image of the video and the buttons at the bottom -->
18:35 kraftb those are images
18:35 kraftb when you hit play ... and the video runs - or while at pause - you see the flash file which plays the flv
18:35 uschi ah, so i do not see the real thing
18:35 kraftb no ... not while at stop
18:36 kraftb while at stop the player gets: visibility: hidden
18:36 uschi yes, but after hitting stop and then play again, the buttons are shown
18:36 kraftb and the div at the same place (absolutely positioned) gets visibility visible
18:36 uschi and on play
18:36 kraftb so just at page load the buttons of the player are gone
18:37 kraftb just if you enter a page .... through the list view - or even when you press reload (shift reload) in the browser ?
18:38 uschi shall try that
18:38 kraftb well ... a friend with a intel mac visits me today (hopefully)
18:38 kraftb i can have a look at the page at his box
18:39 kraftb or in a few hours (20???) i have downloaded a vmware image of intel mac os x
18:39 uschi the same, kraftb
18:39 uschi kraftb, can we talk for a minute about kb_md5fepw?
18:40 kraftb what's the problem with it ?
18:40 uschi it has a dependency for 3.8
18:40 uschi and it causes probs when used with sr_feuser_register 2.5.6
18:41 uschi and this fe_user_admin (is that the key?)
18:41 uschi does it have the feature for additional fields as well?
18:42 uschi i really need advice here, because i have been stuck with that bloody ext (sr_feuser_register) for quite a while now
18:42 jananne Hello, is there any automatic install script for the installation of typo3 Unix based?
18:43 Jon_yoosic jananne - copy the files, then run /install/index.php
18:44 Jon_yoosic err not run, load it in a browser
18:47 jananne Okay thanks Jon_yoosic
18:47 Rocketjock jananne: check here http://typo3.org/download/packages/. there is a quick start and a test they are for older versions
18:48 uschi kraftb, still there
18:50 jananne Can i unpack a tar file in windows and copy it to a FTP with an FTP Client and run it than with the index?
18:51 jananne i get a permission error when i try to do this. ( On a Unix based server )
18:52 jananne Or can't the file
18:52 jananne Rocketjock: ^^
18:53 Rocketjock jananne: you should be able to upload the tar dile. then on the unix system type tar -xzvf the file name
18:53 Rocketjock file*
18:54 Rocketjock that should unpack the file
18:56 Rocketjock jananne: what version of unix are you running?
18:56 jananne Free BSD
18:56 jananne But i dont have root access..
18:57 Rocketjock you shouldn't need root
18:57 jananne Can't i unzip the file on my local machine and then upload it to its destenation and then run the index?
18:57 Rocketjock I run freebsd too.. its the best
18:57 jananne :D
18:58 Jon_yoosic has anyone used the alternet_csa plugins??
18:58 Rocketjock I don't see why not. but the tar file is compressed and should load faster
18:58 Rocketjock you don't need to be root to untar the file and use it
19:03 Maddy so, I found more white pages in my system
19:11 Rocketjock Maddy: last time i had a bunch of white pages I was missing a php extension
19:12 Maddy do you know what it was?
19:12 Maddy this is a new setup
19:15 Rocketjock one sec... I need to look at the file
19:21 Rocketjock here are all the php extensins I have installed
19:21 Rocketjock calendar ,ctype ,dom ,exif ,filter ,ftp ,gd ,gettext ,hash ,iconv ,imap ,json ,mbstring .
19:21 Rocketjock one sec for more
19:23 Rocketjock mcrypt ,mhash ,mysqli ,openssl ,pdo ,posix ,session ,pspell ,readline ,shmop
19:23 Rocketjock ,simplexml ,snmp ,sockets ,spl ,tidy ,tokenizer ,xml ,wddx ,xmlreader ,xmlwriter
19:23 Maddy I'll check this, thank you :)
19:24 Rocketjock ,xsl ,zip ,zlib ,mysql ,curl ,pcre ,soap ,pdf ,eaccelerator
19:24 Rocketjock welcome
19:24 Rocketjock hope that helps
19:24 Rocketjock are you using a php accelerator?
19:24 Maddy I've no idea ;)
19:25 Maddy this system is a new installed fedora 6
19:25 Maddy what is installed there i must check
19:26 Rocketjock ok. good luck
19:27 Maddy thanks
19:40 Maddy okay, I run no accelerator and I miss most of this extensions
19:40 Maddy this could be the reason
19:56 Rocketjock Maddy: try adding eaccelerator after you get this problem fixed. It will speed things up alot.
19:57 Maddy I'm installing now. hope that fix - it must work tomorrow
20:23 Maddy Rocketjock: THANK YOU, you saved my life :)
20:23 Maddy or better you saved my work *gg*
20:25 Rocketjock welcome
20:41 Maddy there is another question: how to realize an alias for apache?
20:41 Maddy I know, there is an directive in httpd.conf and I know the syntax
20:42 Maddy but it don't work
20:51 Rocketjock maddy you have ServerName www.sub.domain.tld ServerAlias *.sub.domain.tld in you vhost?
20:52 Maddy no, ich just inserted Alias /domain "/Users/<removed>/domain" and the <Directory>...</Directory> onto the file
20:52 Maddy *into
20:55 Rocketjock maddy: your on fedora... I don;t know linux commands... ask Ries, he will know
20:56 Maddy okay, thanks
20:56 Rocketjock if he is on...listening
20:56 Maddy I know this works, I did it before, but today is no good day for me :(
20:57 Rocketjock you restarted apache?
20:57 Maddy yes
20:58 Ries Rocketjock: I justed fixed my loudspeakers I brought from HOlland
20:58 Ries I almost started to cry!! damn these speakers sounds so good
20:58 Maddy *gg* somebody happy :)
20:59 Maddy I have no sound at all, this soundcard is not supportet by fedora 6
21:02 Rocketjock Ries: lol ... good for you!!!
21:02 Rocketjock Ries: you are most handy
21:04 Rocketjock I hope this new SMP kernel works
21:07 Maddy Ries: do you know how to realize an alias for apache? I want to develop a typo3-webpage in my home, but show it with my local webserver
21:07 Maddy Rocketjock means, you could know ;)
21:11 Rocketjock Ries: Maddy is using fedora 6 so I am next to useless in helping him
21:11 Maddy her ;)
21:16 Rocketjock oh...sry
21:17 Maddy no problem
21:17 Rocketjock who else here is familiar with fedora?
21:17 Maddy all sleeping :)
21:17 Rocketjock Boonkerz?
21:18 Rocketjock could be. Many are in europe
21:18 Maddy me too
21:18 Maddy its late here
21:18 Rocketjock pulling an all nighter?
21:21 Maddy stop this for today
21:21 Maddy 6 am I have to get up
21:21 Maddy O.o
21:22 Maddy thanks a lot for your advice, if I can manage this alias-problem I will come back tomorrow :)
21:22 Maddy good night @ll
21:31 uschi hm, i suppose, i do have a beginners question here
21:32 uschi i want to create a menu for my frontend user
21:32 uschi if nobody is logged in, i need to links: login and register
21:33 uschi if somebody is logged in, i need logout, edit profile and delete account
21:33 uschi current problem: the logout-button
21:34 uschi i would like to achieve, that clicking that link (submit-button) is logged out directly by clicking on logout and not going to some logout page, where he can logout
21:35 Affenbrotbaum Hey there
21:35 uschi hey Affenbrotbaum :)
21:35 uschi funny nick that is
21:35 Affenbrotbaum hehe... are u german ?
21:36 Affenbrotbaum thanks by the way ;)
21:36 uschi otherwise i could hardly understand what you nick means, right?
21:36 Affenbrotbaum true, true
21:36 uschi shall i call myself monkey?
21:36 Affenbrotbaum Want some bread ?
21:37 uschi a sandwich please :)
21:37 Affenbrotbaum hehe...done
21:37 mcfloppy hello
21:37 Affenbrotbaum hey there
21:37 mcfloppy ;)
21:37 uschi hello mcfloppy
21:37 mcfloppy Affenbrotbaum, sounds so german ;)
21:37 mcfloppy i feel home
21:37 Affenbrotbaum lol
21:37 uschi i am so desperately stuck and have a twisted mind
21:37 Affenbrotbaum where are you stuck ?
21:38 uschi somehow it does, doesn't it
21:38 mcfloppy i try to finish: http://trexx.rsp-design.de/index.php
21:38 Affenbrotbaum I dont know ...does it ;)
21:38 mcfloppy but i have a problem with the goof photobook...
21:38 mcfloppy why can't i center it?
21:38 uschi want to create a logout in menu that logs the user out directly
21:39 uschi without going to some special page
21:39 Affenbrotbaum yeah that bugs me to
21:39 Affenbrotbaum o
21:39 mcfloppy this text-align: center; is in the style.css for the div around the photobook
21:39 Affenbrotbaum I want just a link to click on, instead of a special page
21:39 uschi so we have problems in common (besides the language)
21:39 Affenbrotbaum hehe
21:39 mcfloppy Affenbrotbaum, kannst du mir helfen? *G*
21:40 uschi fe-forms in typo3 drive me nuts
21:40 Affenbrotbaum uhm....*point up* english only please ;)
21:40 Affenbrotbaum uhm yeah lets have a look
21:40 uschi me too
21:40 Affenbrotbaum ar.....I came in here to find salvation myself :-D
21:41 Affenbrotbaum So....ladies first...Uschi, how may I help you ?
21:41 uschi but not for that prob with the logout?
21:41 uschi my thoughts
21:41 Affenbrotbaum nah....another one
21:41 uschi it is useless to have a link to logout, where we see e.g. newloginbox with username and the button logout
21:42 Affenbrotbaum mhm
21:42 Affenbrotbaum mcfloppy: describe your problem more precise please
21:42 uschi so what we would like to achieve is to have only the logout button in a form styled like a link in a 'users-menu'
21:42 uschi heya Denyerec
21:43 uschi my problem is: how to get that part of the login/out template (button only) into a sort of menu
21:43 Denyerec Hey Uschi
21:43 Affenbrotbaum Im currently looking
21:44 uschi i am not into the standard template way
21:44 Affenbrotbaum templavoila ?
21:45 uschi yes, and i do love it
21:45 Affenbrotbaum ;)
21:46 uschi for fe users management in fe in fe i am currently using
21:46 mcfloppy Affenbrotbaum, mkay... i have a layout which is based on divs, so i set the option "text-align" in the div around the photobook. when i write something in the div, it is centred, but the thumbnails from photobook are not in center.
21:46 mcfloppy so i look in the code and remove the align=left option from the table element in photobook
21:46 uschi newloginbox, sr_feuser_register, kb_md5fepw and fh_library
21:47 Affenbrotbaum uhm
21:47 Affenbrotbaum you must center the images mcfloppy
21:47 Affenbrotbaum same as me uschi
21:47 mcfloppy hmm
21:47 mcfloppy moment
21:47 uschi so how can i access the submit button of newloginbox and only that in a way that i can use it on every page
21:47 Affenbrotbaum uschi: go into the newloginbox folder
21:48 uschi i am there
21:48 Affenbrotbaum and then into /res
21:48 uschi i know, there is a template
21:48 Affenbrotbaum hm
21:48 mcfloppy Affenbrotbaum, doesnt work
21:48 Affenbrotbaum mc: css styled ?
21:48 mcfloppy no
21:48 mcfloppy static
21:48 Affenbrotbaum arr
21:48 mcfloppy how can i change?
21:49 mcfloppy *G*
21:49 Affenbrotbaum ^^
21:49 Affenbrotbaum a lot of work
21:49 nutcase mcfloppy: you've stolen the text on your site, that's bad
21:49 mcfloppy nutcase, i know
21:49 mcfloppy nutcase, it is only a placeholder
21:49 mcfloppy i change it
21:49 nutcase mcfloppy: i hope so ;)
21:49 mcfloppy yeah
21:49 uschi Affenbrotbaum, what was your question by the way?
21:50 Affenbrotbaum mcfloppy: google for Lorem Ipsum
21:50 Affenbrotbaum thanks uschi.... uhm this sounds really dumb but I want to set up the newloginbox on a new page
21:50 Affenbrotbaum and according to the manual
21:51 Affenbrotbaum I should set the "TS template constant pid "
21:51 Affenbrotbaum to a specific folder
21:51 Affenbrotbaum I know that I've done it before
21:51 Affenbrotbaum but I dont remember where I can do taht
21:51 uschi hm, let me have a look
21:51 Denyerec uschi have you ever done any work with the fancy mailform extensions ?
21:52 mcfloppy nutcase, bether?
21:52 mcfloppy better
21:52 uschi the pid is the folder where the fe-users are to be found
21:52 Denyerec I have a 3-stage form with attachments to build, and am stuck.
21:52 Affenbrotbaum I know
21:52 nutcase mcfloppy: you have to give the table a margin:auto
21:52 uschi another one with bloody forms, Denyerec
21:52 Denyerec :9
21:52 Denyerec Sorry uschi
21:52 mcfloppy yeah null0_
21:52 nutcase mcfloppy: try .tx-gooffotoboek-pi1 table {margin: auto}
21:52 mcfloppy nutcase,
21:52 mcfloppy all right
21:52 mcfloppy :)
21:53 Ries done!!!
21:53 Ries house is clean
21:53 Ries speakers working
21:53 Ries made a blackboard for karina
21:53 Ries and now I am ready to start writing software :D
21:58 mcfloppy so
21:59 mcfloppy i think the page looks good ;)
21:59 mcfloppy now i only need the new image of the controls from the photobook
21:59 mcfloppy ah
22:00 mcfloppy how can i get a better quality?
22:00 mcfloppy look on the topbanner
22:00 mcfloppy ;)
22:04 Denyerec damn Ries
22:04 Denyerec you've had a busy weekend :)
22:05 Denyerec I spent the entire of yesterday replacing a gearbox on my girlfriend's car
22:05 Denyerec 12 bloody hours!
22:05 Affenbrotbaum lol
22:05 Affenbrotbaum Congratulations
22:05 Affenbrotbaum What did you get for it ? ;)
22:05 Denyerec Several burns, and a lot of oil.
22:05 Denyerec What is "affen"
22:05 Affenbrotbaum hehe
22:05 Affenbrotbaum monkey
22:06 Denyerec I know brot baum must be bread tree
22:06 Affenbrotbaum do you know what a baobab is ?
22:06 Denyerec Monkey puzzle tree?
22:06 Affenbrotbaum hehe
22:06 Affenbrotbaum look in Wikipedia for a baobab tree
22:06 Affenbrotbaum thats the correct translation
22:06 Denyerec Ah they're the massive ones.
22:06 Denyerec not monkey puzzle trees
22:07 Affenbrotbaum hehe
22:07 Affenbrotbaum not quite
22:07 Affenbrotbaum but it sounds akward in erman
22:07 Affenbrotbaum german
22:07 Denyerec http://www.hlasek.com/foto/araucaria_araucana_6563.jpg
22:07 Denyerec that is a monkeypuzzle
22:07 Denyerec as the monkey would sit there thinking... "WTF"
22:07 Affenbrotbaum lol
22:07 mcfloppy http://wiki.typo3.org/index.php/GIFBUILDER_QUALITY this dont help
22:08 Affenbrotbaum Wanna make a Gmenu?
22:08 mcfloppy no
22:08 mcfloppy only a dynamic banner
22:15 Ries Denyerec: ! ping
22:15 Affenbrotbaum hmm
22:15 Affenbrotbaum lets see
22:16 Affenbrotbaum haha
22:20 mcfloppy Affenbrotbaum, what?
22:20 Affenbrotbaum ah right...
22:21 Affenbrotbaum alrigh.... I'm using Windows Vista and I'm proud of it
22:21 mcfloppy Affenbrotbaum, dont you see the banner?
22:22 Affenbrotbaum What Banner ?
22:22 mcfloppy http://trexx.rsp-design.de/typo3temp/GB/8f3468cf06.jpg
22:23 Affenbrotbaum yepp I do
22:23 mcfloppy and it looks like to much compressed, or?
22:24 Affenbrotbaum a little bit
22:24 Affenbrotbaum especially around the text
22:24 mcfloppy what can i do against it?
22:24 Affenbrotbaum compress it less? ;)
22:24 mcfloppy gifbuilder is the black sheep
22:25 mcfloppy TOP.file {
22:25 mcfloppy format = jpg
22:25 mcfloppy XY = 1002, 206
22:25 mcfloppy quality = 100
22:25 mcfloppy 10 = IMAGE
22:25 mcfloppy 10.file = fileadmin/trexxstyle/design/header.jpg
22:25 mcfloppy usw...
22:25 Affenbrotbaum uh ur doin it via TS
22:25 Affenbrotbaum sorry...I'm a CSS and TV fetishist
22:25 mcfloppy hmm
22:26 mcfloppy i see that the first pic is also bad
22:26 Affenbrotbaum by the way...change the admin user
22:26 Affenbrotbaum ;)
22:26 mcfloppy all right now?
22:27 Affenbrotbaum yepp ;)
22:33 mcfloppy :)
22:33 mcfloppy did you have the pass?
22:34 Affenbrotbaum ;) jepp
22:37 mcfloppy hmm
22:37 mcfloppy wenn i go from jpg to png, the banner is black n white
22:37 mcfloppy but the inputfile is color
22:48 moogalyn hi... im new to typo3 templating and was wondering if someone could point me in the direction of some documentation on the cObject. ive looked on the site and all the links that i have found dont seem to be valid any longer.
22:52 Ries moogalyn: what do you need to now?
22:54 moogalyn when i try to create a template, it inserts its own html headers redering my template pretty much useless
22:55 null0_ uh. fine
22:55 moogalyn i would prefer not to use a plugin for template creation if possible... so basically i need to know how to tell it to insert the html, head, title tags and such.
22:56 null0_ just another vim work migrated to typo
22:56 moogalyn i cant find too much doc on how to do that. it just jumps into the template plugin tutorial
22:56 Denyerec Goodnight all
23:01 Ries moogalyn: You coul disable all ehader data, But I really don't see a reason to do that
23:02 moogalyn how would i disable it?
23:05 moogalyn is that this? config.disableCharsetHeader=1
23:12 Ries moogalyn: there is an option to disable all header data
23:12 Ries moogalyn: My why I don't understand well
23:12 Ries it also means you will turn of valuable headers
23:14 moogalyn well i must not be doing it correctly i suppose
23:15 moogalyn i have a template that i want to base it off of... and it is inserting the html etc... tags and so then it never finds my css shet
23:15 moogalyn sheet
23:17 Ries moogalyn: why don't you insert your stylesheet with soem typoscript?
23:26 moogalyn i will try that. thanks
23:28 Ries moogalyn: typo3 will also add soem SJ in the header and some other goodies
23:29 Ries also some extensions use the header for additional javascript or other header data
23:29 Ries if you disableAll Header data then basicly you turn of way to much
23:29 Ries it's usefull under some conditions though... but not for generate a website
23:31 moogalyn ok
23:31 moogalyn thanks :)
23:39 Ries moogalyn: yw
23:47 tansta morning guys
23:50 Ries hey tansta
23:50 Ries go to sleep!!! it's night still :D
23:50 tansta oh hehehe
23:54 tansta can anyone help me with menu while they're sleeping ?
23:54 tansta ;)

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