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01:52 Denyerec What does header layout style actually *do*
03:39 Ries Denyerec: ???
03:59 Tsoots good morning
04:08 d|g hi all
04:09 null_0 gm
04:17 Ries Hey Tsoots and all
05:33 dax77 good morning @all
05:48 dax77 ^^lol, how often is he going to do that?
05:48 Tsoots and what's the message
05:49 dax77 !h? - we used to have a bot here
05:50 dax77 actually Number-5 is still here, but it looks like he can't help anymore
05:50 Tsoots oic
06:01 Jigal gooooooood morning, #typo3!!
06:21 dax77 heya Jigal :)
06:31 Jigal hey dax77
06:32 just2b good morning
06:33 dax77 hi just2b
06:33 just2b hi dax
06:33 Jigal hi kermit_green, just2b
06:33 just2b hi jigal
06:34 Jigal just2b: is there a deadline for "the manual"?
06:35 just2b yeah kind of.. everybody is waiting for my googlemap ...
06:35 Jigal is there anybody else who can do it?
06:36 just2b yeah I am in contact with 2 people but sooner or later you have to do it on your own..
06:37 just2b dax77: will be there ever a manual with all settings and so on for cal? :D
06:37 bauschan hi #typo3 !
06:38 Jigal just2b: well, you could become ill until the deadline has passed, so someone else *must* take over <evilgrin>
06:38 Jigal hi smda, bauschan, Fanty, MarwolTuk, floxx, zat
06:38 just2b and nobody gets the ext... i will just write a copy of your msg into the manual
06:38 floxx hi jigal :-)
06:38 zat hi all
06:39 zat hi just2b, floxx and others
06:39 smda hi Jigal
06:39 Fanty morning
06:39 floxx hi zat :-)
06:39 floxx and everyone else!
06:39 smda ..and hi all ya other! :P
06:39 just2b and I really really hate the htmlarea
06:40 Fanty I actually think I've just about done integrating it into the FE extensions I needed it for
06:40 MarwolTuk good morning
06:40 Jigal just2b: that's why I've switched to tinyRTE...
06:41 just2b jigal, me too, but I need to get the custom tags working on htmlarea... but i get the < > parsed... have to look in other exts i guess
06:41 Fanty Only need to write a plugin for it now.. then I should be all done with that nightmareish javascript
06:41 dax77 just2b: yes. we got a professional writer from wec who is writing the manual for us right now :)
06:42 just2b dax, dam it ;)
06:42 dax77 hehe
06:53 Jigal just2b: Ries made an extension rvt_tsobjtags which adds a new tag in the RTE to display TS Objects. Works fine with rteHTMLarea, but less well with tinyRTE; maybe a good start for inspiration?
06:53 just2b yeah, found inspiration in mytags or how the ext is called...
06:53 just2b RTE.default.proc.entryHTMLparser_db = 1
06:53 just2b RTE.default.proc.entryHTMLparser_db {
06:53 just2b htmlSpecialChars = -1
06:53 just2b allowTags = map,table,tr,td,div,img,hr,b,i,u,a,br,pre,strong,em,li,ul,ol,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,span,p,b,th
06:55 just2b <map 25 20> blabla</map> is getting translated to <map 25="" 20=""> but this is seems still to work
06:57 Jigal just2b: it would be more logical that it was translated to <map 25="25" 20="20"> (the html attributes without a value get their names as value in xhtml...)
06:58 Fanty <map 25 20> isen't valid xml is it?
06:58 just2b fanty, no, but <map 25="" 20=""> is
06:58 just2b Jigal: yeah I guess, but it still works in my plugin
06:59 Fanty dont think so either.. or.. not sure.. but I dont think parameter names may start with numbers
06:59 Fanty id do a <map coord="25,20"> ;)
07:00 just2b validator doesn'T complain with xhtml 1.1, so it works
07:00 just2b and 25,20 is no coord, 25 id of record, 20 id of page
07:02 Jigal Fanty: you are right! attribute names should start with a letter, '_' or ':'
07:03 just2b fanty, jigal: i am sorry.. missed something.. the translation to <map 25="" 20=""> is just in the BE of the ext.. my ext creates then quite other attributes, like tx_rggooglemap_pi1[poi]=25 .. so everything is really fine ;)
07:03 just2b and with realurl you event don't see this anymore
07:06 Fanty just2b: diden't say it was a problem I just got to thinking about the validity of the XML :)
07:07 just2b Fanty yeah correct, but I forgot what my extenson does ;)
07:07 Jigal just2b: it's a bit odd that it "works" in the browser (in the BE); the contents of the RTE is generated by the browser and one expects this to be compatible with the document type it displays. Oddly enought your browser seems to generate code that is not valid XML. What if the next update of the browser decides to generate valide XML and converts <map 25 20> to <map atrr1="25" attr2="20" /> ?
07:10 just2b Jigal: you got it wrong! i insert into rte <map 25 20> and the htmlarea transforms it into <map atrr1="25" attr2="20" />. Through parseFunc of RTE, this is translatet into a normal ahref link with parameters like tx_rgooglemap_pi1[pi]=25
07:13 Jigal just2b: earlier you stated that the rte transforms it into <map 25="" 20=""> !? Your parseFunc can handle both variations?
07:14 just2b jigal: yeah it seems so
07:14 just2b ah of course the transformatios is into <map 25="" 20="">
07:14 just2b wrong copypaste ;)
07:18 Jigal just2b: okay, but Fanty just pointed out that it isn't valid XML that goes to parseFunc. What if the browser (for example after an update) decides to make valid XML anyhow (and thus generates different code)? If you'd use valid XML to begin with there is far less chance that a browser will one day modify it in a way that cannot be handled by your parseFunc...
07:19 koomi moin
07:19 just2b jigal: what does this have to do with browsers? everything made by typo3
07:21 just2b it would'nt be good to for the usability because <map ID>text</map is the fastest way and the way with the least problems. if there is a change in typo3 handling parameters, then I'll write a short ext with 20 lines, introducing a new custom tag
07:22 just2b and i don't think that typo3 will change the way of custom tags because the attributes there get always modified by an extension..
07:22 Fanty just2b: I'd argue following the guidelines for XML would be better for usability :)
07:23 layna Goot morning! *is in a better mood today and brought coffee and tea for everyone*
07:23 just2b Fanty: no because <map id="25"> is far more complicated than <map 25> and as I mentioned before.. custom tags get always be modfied
07:23 just2b layna: thx and a good morning for you too...
07:25 Jigal just2b: an RTE works by use a container HTML element with the property contenteditable set. Therefor the browser is generating the HTML.
07:25 Jigal s/use/using/
07:25 layna Unfortunately, I have a problem, too... When I go to the page vie Web -> View as admin, I get those pencils to change texts and images. When I do the same as the editing user, the pencils don't appear.... what right do I have to set to gibe teh editor her pencils?
07:25 layna give the editor
07:26 Fanty just2b: I cant see any technical reasons not to do it but its not far more complicated. I for one was way off on my first assumption thinking it was coordinates. You leave people guessing if they haven't read all the details about the tag in the documentation :)
07:27 Fanty ohh, Jigal might be right..
07:27 Fanty that explains some of the problems I've been having
07:27 just2b fanty: if there is just one integer, you think still it is a coordinate? and yes, if i want to use a specific feature, you need always a look into the manual but thx jigal for this
07:28 beev0r how can i wrap "text" (w/o image) content elements with <div class="text">|</div>? and ONLY "text"-elements.
07:29 just2b beev0r look into the TSOB, there is something like tt_content.text.20.wrap
07:33 monis_raz uschi are you there??
07:34 monis_raz hello!
07:34 monis_raz can any one help?
07:35 layna I am here, I just cannot help...
07:36 layna When I go to the page via Web -> View on the backend as admin, I get those pencils to change texts and images. When I do the same as the editing user, the pencils don't appear.... what right do I have to set to give the editor her pencils?
07:37 just2b layna: config.admPanel = 1 and then just read the article of FE editiong http://typo3.org/documentation/tips-tricks/frontend-editing/
07:38 layna Thanks :). *loves pointers to the right source.. there are just too many*
07:43 monis_raz layna can you help me a bit?
07:44 dax77 re
07:46 monis_raz ok
07:46 monis_raz I encountered this error while I was trying to save the content with an image in RTE, otherwise RTE is working fine, I have also give all the permissions to thealt_doc.php as indicated in the error but the error persist. Please help
07:46 monis_raz Forbidden
07:46 monis_raz You don't have permission to access /typo3/alt_doc.php on this server.
07:46 monis_raz Additionally, a 404 Not Found error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request.
07:53 monis_raz jigal no one is responding??
07:55 Jigal monis_raz: this error doesn't ring a bell, but when I searched http://bugs.typo3.org/view_all_bug_page.php for "alt_doc" I see that there are a number of reports related to the file you mentioned, maybe you can find the solution there?
08:00 monis_raz any ways thanks Jigal, let me see the link you sent
08:00 uschi morning folks :))
08:00 dax77 good morning uschi :)
08:00 uschi morning dax77
08:06 koomi moin uschi
08:07 uschi moin koomi
08:08 monis_raz hi Uschi!
08:08 monis_raz I was just waiting for u!!
08:08 monis_raz trapped again
08:08 monis_raz Usvhi are you there?
08:08 uschi yes, monis_raz, i am here
08:10 monis_raz Hi Uschi!
08:11 monis_raz I need your help friend
08:11 uschi hi monis_raz :)
08:11 monis_raz :-)
08:11 uschi exactly mine?
08:11 uschi what is your problem?
08:11 monis_raz I encountered this error while I was trying to save the content with an image in RTE, otherwise RTE is working fine, I have also give all the permissions to thealt_doc.php as indicated in the error but the error persist. Please help
08:11 monis_raz Forbidden
08:11 monis_raz You don't have permission to access /typo3/alt_doc.php on this server.
08:11 monis_raz Additionally, a 404 Not Found error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request.
08:12 just2b uschi: yeah he does only accept help from you ;)
08:12 uschi but not with unix/linux rights
08:13 uschi just2b, may i delegate this to you?
08:13 monis_raz i have give all the permissions 777 from the cpanel
08:13 uschi monis_raz, your apache needs access to that file
08:13 just2b uschi: no sry, your case (and no idea myself)
08:14 monis_raz ok
08:14 monis_raz how to do that?
08:14 uschi do you have shell access?
08:14 monis_raz no
08:14 uschi and by the way, 777 is a very bad idea
08:14 monis_raz yeah i know
08:15 monis_raz but experimentally i did
08:15 monis_raz can htaccess will do
08:15 uschi then i would contact your isp
08:15 uschi no
08:15 monis_raz ok
08:15 uschi htaccess is apache stuff for http, not for modifying files
08:15 monis_raz ok
08:16 monis_raz should i give you my cpanel
08:17 just2b OT: is there a german word for "wizard" and I don't mean the magician ;)
08:17 marc| assistent?
08:18 marc| if u mean something like setup wizard
08:18 just2b marc| yeah that would do ;)
08:18 just2b thx
08:18 monis_raz uschi ??
08:18 uschi yes, monis_raz ?
08:19 monis_raz should i give you my cpanel
08:19 uschi what is your cpanel, by the way?
08:19 uschi what IS a cpanel?
08:20 monis_raz its cpanelX
08:21 koomi just wondering: would there be a way to split a text into lines with fixed number of chars?
08:21 koomi like forcing a linebreak
08:21 monis_raz ok Uschi tell me what should I technally ask my ISP
08:21 monis_raz i mean how to go ahead
08:22 just2b monis_raz you know the word "please" ... ?
08:22 uschi that you apache complains about missing access to the directory mentioned in the error message
08:23 monis_raz just2b "please " take your foot away as I m speaking with Uschi
08:24 monis_raz ok uschi
08:24 monis_raz ha ha
08:27 monis_raz Ushci but such a problem never happen with this ISP i m amazed, our all other sites are with same ISP
08:27 just2b yeah thx, /me should anyway write his diploma thesis
08:31 monis_raz any ways thanks a lot Uschi :-)
08:31 monis_raz i'll speak with my ISP
08:31 monis_raz but don't know wether they would be able to resolve it
08:31 uschi yes, because i am not a server and rights management person
08:32 monis_raz yeah ofcourse
08:32 uschi they should be able to give you proper advice
08:32 monis_raz ok
08:32 monis_raz thanks again buddy!
08:32 monis_raz and just2b "pleaseeeeee"
08:34 dax77 *g*
08:35 monis_raz Jigal thanx for your suppot too!
08:42 koomi :)
08:43 koomi compair1: tor got it's own hostmask on freenode now?
08:50 _FayVanM_ Hello
08:50 Jigal just2b: can't you remove it yourself? I didn't put it there ;-P
08:51 _FayVanM_ I need help setting up a rss feed with tt_news. has someone a running feed with this extension?
08:51 m4rtijn mornink
08:55 _FayVanM_ regarding tt_news/rss: i followed the ext-documentation, but i get an xml parsing error: no element found.
08:56 just2b you set a startingpoint? so there are news elements to show in rss?
08:58 _FayVanM_ i set a strating point, and it works with the the static default templates, but not with rss/atom static template
09:01 _FayVanM_ i have followed the documentation in settug up a newspage with one detailpage. and this works. what have i to change from this point to make the detail page rss?
09:01 _FayVanM_ *setting
09:06 m4rtijn if I want rounded GMENU buttons.. is it the best way to have 3 images, like the rounded edge left, the center and the left rounded edge? if yes.. does anyone know any example code somewhere?
09:06 m4rtijn one left = right :p
09:06 just2b m4rtijn yes this is best way, 3 imgs
09:07 m4rtijn ok, thx just2b
09:07 just2b m4rtijn i did something like that already
09:08 Jigal m4rtijn: there's an example in TypoScript By Example
09:08 just2b there is also an example here in 10sec
09:08 Jigal m4rtijn: Challenge (GMENU/2)
09:09 Nick23 Hello could I use Varables in Typo3?
09:09 just2b ah this is no challenge .. ;) http://phpfi.com/229661
09:09 m4rtijn you guys rock! :p
09:09 just2b nick, sure
09:09 m4rtijn thx
09:09 Jigal m4rtijn: http://typo3.org/documentation/document-library/core-documentation/doc_core_tsbyex/0.0.16/view/7/6/
09:09 just2b m4rtijn we know :D
09:09 m4rtijn hehe
09:09 just2b but paypal donations are appreciated :D :D :D
09:10 just2b btw you can see my example here > http://t3.ringer.tk/
09:11 m4rtijn wow, not bad
09:11 m4rtijn the buttons
09:11 just2b yeah, need a fast site for my brother..
09:13 Nick23 i have a submenu which top should be depend on the main-menu points
09:13 Nick23 now i want to check register:count_HMENU_MENUOB and then change the top of my <div>
09:15 Jigal just2b: the docs (TS By Example) use .tile=10 on the central image, you don't; please ;-P explain?
09:16 just2b Jigal hehe, don't really know why I should use it
09:16 Nick23 hmm
09:17 just2b Jigal: i looked at the code again, is there anything which isnt understandable?
09:18 Nick23 no idea with the variables?
09:18 Nick23 i though so:
09:18 Nick23 varibale = {register:count_HMENU_MENUOBJ} * 30
09:18 Nick23 and then
09:20 Nick23 wrap = <div id="productsubnav" style="top: varibale px><ul>|</ul></div>
09:22 Jigal just2b: no, only that the example in the docs I referred to had the property .tile = 10 set on the middle image and you didn't.. Maybe the image you use is pretty wide and tiling isn't necessary?
09:22 just2b jigal: yeah the img in the middle is 300px .. :D
09:23 just2b tile is to repeat the img?#
09:31 Jigal just2b: IMAGE Property: tile; data type: x,y; Description: tile x,y times. Maximum times is 20 each direction. If you need more, use a larger image (TSRef in the GIFBUILDER section)
09:31 just2b ahh thx ;)
09:35 Jigal yeah, we rock! :-D
09:36 just2b yeah... i like the forum because there eveybody sees that I rock ... :D
09:36 just2b 6% of whole forum postings is written by me ;)
09:37 just2b but steffen already calls me mr. google.. lol
09:38 Jigal just2b: you have a community powered brain? (compare Web 2.0)
09:38 just2b yeah ;)
09:38 Jigal just2b: maybe MS should make a site mrjust2b.com just like msdewey.com ...
09:39 just2b yeah and if my mood is down, every beginner will start to cry :D
09:49 _FayVanM_ can you help me with tt_news?
09:50 m4rtijn what do you need fay
09:50 dokma perhaps
09:51 m4rtijn hmm, could it be that i need some country code settings or whatever. if I use GMENU fontfile .. ?
09:51 m4rtijn for german special chars
09:52 fred^ trying to edit a file in fileadmin. have some UTF-8 chars. Øksnes shows up as Øksnes
09:52 fred^ shouldnt fileadmin be fully supportive of UTF-8 ?
09:52 just2b m4rtijn the font needs to have these characters
09:52 just2b fred.. is your BE utf-8?
09:52 m4rtijn yes.. but what if they do.. but its not working?
09:53 fred^ thought it was by defualt
09:53 fred^ default
09:53 just2b m4rtijn if they do, there should be no prpblem
09:53 just2b fred, no
09:53 just2b IMO not
09:53 m4rtijn thats what I thought :p
09:54 m4rtijn somehow though I only get squares instead of special chars
09:55 fred^ hmm just2b well i have norwegian set as default language
09:55 fred^ do i need to do any more steps to fix that?
09:56 just2b try to set the BE to utf > install-tool > all configuration > search for enforec chareset , set it to utf-8
10:04 fred^ hmmm, wierd
10:05 just2b the file is truly utf-8?
10:13 _FayVanM_ m4rtijn: tt_news shows only a channel but no items in the rss
10:16 m4rtijn hmm, sorry I havent done anything yet with rss feed
10:27 MarwolTuk silly re-connects...
10:53 just2b thx a lot ;)
10:54 Jigal just2b: you feel a bit better? ;-P
10:55 just2b yeah.,.. someone helps me writing and 4 knödln are helping
10:57 pulponair hi dudes
10:57 Jigal and they were not just knödeln, but Wachauer Marillenknödel in Buterbröseln mit Kompott!
10:57 Jigal hey pulponair
10:58 pulponair hum? sounds like bavarian food
10:59 just2b pulp: austrian ;)
10:59 Jigal pulponair: just2b just had 06Wachauer Marillenknödel in Butterbröseln, dazu Kompott € 2,0001
11:00 just2b jigal, but 2x 2 *g*
11:00 pulponair baeh
11:01 Jigal just2b: and how big are those knödeln?
11:01 just2b they are quite big, but I am a good eater, lol
11:02 Jigal you must be, from what I've read in the recipe ;-P
11:02 just2b ;)
11:03 pulponair just2b: so you should get yourself a few beers to wash down that meaty meal ;)
11:03 just2b first I need a screen capture ;)
11:05 just2b oh come on ;)
11:06 Fanty anyway to get typo3 to load one templavoila template on windows machines and another on linux?
11:07 pulponair Fanty: you mean at the client side?
11:07 Fanty yes
11:07 Jigal can you set which template to use in TS?
11:08 pulponair Fanty: sounds like a dirty workaround you should start over again
11:10 Fanty the question was more like; does typo3 have any session or whatnot stuff that would enable it to base the template selection on which OS the client has?
11:10 Jigal Fanty: in TS you can use the condition [system=win,mac] etc.
11:10 pulponair Fanty: yes ..like jigal said it can be done via conditions
11:10 Fanty That could work
11:11 Jigal Fanty: http://typo3.org/documentation/document-library/references/doc_core_tsref/4.0.0/view/4/1/#id2797835
11:12 cindy hi all
11:12 Jigal hi cindy
11:13 cindy hi Jigal
11:13 cindy i got a problem with typo
11:14 cindy i got oscommerce installed, and when i like to get into the admin panel i get this "could not be found, closest page matching"
11:14 cindy hehe :)
11:17 Jigal sorry cindy, I haven't used/seen oscommerce myself; if nobody else answers try to ask your question from time to time or use forums, e-maillists, etc.
11:18 cindy thats what i tried already :(
11:19 bauschan re
11:19 cindy seems to be something wrong with the .htacces file...if i rename it to htacces without the dot, theres no problem to join the admin panel, but then the rest of the site isnt working no more
11:19 Jigal cindy: then ask it here from time to time; it's very quiet right now, most are having lunch now...
11:20 cindy i'll rest here :)
11:20 [666] re
11:20 cindy thank you anyway
11:20 just2b all people except of jigal, who seems to play "hausmeister" ;)
11:20 cindy :D
11:20 cindy krause
11:21 Jigal well just2b, you have to do something if you are in the outcast corner ;-P
11:22 just2b i gues so.. yes....
11:23 Jigal ..or d) playing "hausmeister"
11:24 just2b no your job already g
11:24 Fanty having two would be fun to watch.. giiirlfight!
11:25 Jigal Fanty: I beg your pardon???? *girl* fight???
11:25 just2b girls? g
11:26 Fanty nevermind :p
11:26 delmonico anyone knows why I can't access fileadmin/ in DRAFT-ws? I see why the fileadmin is not there, but I don't see why I can't insert an image with the RTE or add a file to a tt_news article in draft-ws :(
11:40 kraftb hi all !
11:41 uschi hi kraftb :)
11:41 uschi wb dax77
11:42 kraftb hi uschi ...
11:44 Jigal hi Boonkerz, dax77, kraftb, uschi, d|g, smda, Ries
11:44 uschi hi Jigal :)
11:45 smda Hi Jigal
11:45 uschi kraftb, site up?
11:45 Ries morning guys
11:46 uschi hi Ries (even if i am not a guy :)
11:46 smda hi Ries
11:46 smda uschi: :)
11:46 Ries I'll change
11:46 uschi hi smda :)
11:46 Ries good morning ladies and gentleman
11:47 uschi *lol*
11:47 dax77 hi Ries :)
11:47 Ries hey dax
11:47 Jigal finally a bit more ladies around here...
11:47 Ries Jigal: you and uschi ?
11:48 Jigal Ries: how rude! ;-P
11:48 Jigal Ries: you've hurt me :-(
11:50 just2b ;)
11:54 Boonkerz anywhere use taskcenter?
11:54 Ries :)
11:54 Ries Jigal: it ewas just a question ;)
11:54 Boonkerz how can i add tasks? must i install an extension?
11:57 delmonico http://bugs.typo3.org/view.php?id=3486 crap :( this makes draft workspace like... complety useless
11:57 Jigal Ries (and others): cindy joined 44 minutes again and has problems with oscommerce (but seems to be a bit shy at the moment).
11:58 Jigal s/again/ago/
11:58 koomi Jigal: ist that your female alter ego? :)
11:59 just2b ^^
12:00 Jigal koomi: I don't even have an ego, let aside an "alter ego" :-D
12:00 delmonico hehe yeah if you wanna get more help on IRC, just /nick $GIRLS_NAME
12:00 MarwolTuk lo
12:01 MarwolTuk äh lol
12:01 just2b_ nned help gg
12:03 nancy so, back to my draft workspace problem :P
12:04 koomi hehe
12:25 koomi i need to build a bilingual site using tt_news: is there a way to force tt_news to display news in L=0 and L=1
12:25 koomi news management should use tt_news localization features
12:26 koomi so the author only edits one entry
12:29 Ries Jigal: cindy: I am not much of an os-commerce guy..... I installed it one or two times
12:29 Ries and hate it
12:30 koomi hate is such a strong word ries
12:30 delmonico why do I have a "locallang_db.xml" with all translations and a "locallang.xml" with only a little bit information in it? kickstarter is confusing me...
12:32 delmonico ah I see
12:37 m4rtijn hmm, the transparentBackground = 1 option in GMENU .. is there a certain threshhold for light colors.. if yes, can I change that? .. I used a nearly white color in an rounded egde.. and its transparent now..
12:39 drindt someone here can get me a hint how i can disable that a specific be user can delete records in a folder?
12:40 m4rtijn if hes not an admin?
12:40 just2b_ drindt set the rights in access-module
12:41 drindt just2b_: i don't need TCEFORMS?
12:41 just2b_ drindt dont think so
12:41 Phlogiston_ hey guys
12:41 Phlogiston_ is it no possible to have fe users with the following names: abc.foo ??? Is the dot not allowed? I can't login with newloginbox
12:44 m4rtijn would anyone know if the threshold in transparentBackground can be changed?
12:45 m4rtijn or what I could check in google.. cause im not sure.. is this Gifbuilder?
12:45 m4rtijn or general IM
12:46 just2b gifbuilde
12:46 koomi kraftb: do you think it would be hard to add a "force language" field to the tt_news backend flexform and patch php files accordingly?
12:46 m4rtijn k, thx
12:54 cindy i got oscommerce installed, and when i like to get into the admin panel i get this "could not be found, closest page matching"
12:55 koomi what admin panel?
12:55 koomi so if it's your .htaccess - why don't you start from there?
12:56 koomi could not be found, closest page matching is a typo3 error msg or one from your webserver?
13:03 Phlogiston_ is it no possible to have fe users with the following names: abc.foo ??? Is the dot not allowed? I can't login with newloginbox
13:03 just2b Phlogiston_ would be new to me
13:04 just2b Phlogiston_ does it work if you delete the dot?
13:04 Phlogiston_ just2b: yes.... :(
13:04 just2b everything new versions?
13:05 koomi uschi had the same problem iirc
13:05 Phlogiston_ just2b: everything... latest stuff
13:05 just2b so fill out a bug @ bugs.typo3.org
13:05 just2b or already searched?
13:06 dax77 re
13:06 just2b re dax
13:07 Ries koomi: it just took me way to much time to get anything done in OSC.... it's a horrible design in database, templating and code
13:07 Phlogiston_ is it a good idea to use php accelarator with t3?
13:08 cindy koomi: yes it works when i delete the dot
13:09 drindt just2b: many thanks
13:11 just2b drindt i forgot already what I did, but you are welcome
13:11 weboholic are there any quickstarts/testsites for typo3 4.1?
13:12 uschi which problem, koomi ?
13:12 just2b uschi username with a dot
13:13 uschi no
13:13 uschi i can have dots
13:13 uschi no problem at all
13:13 koomi oh
13:13 uschi just2b, there are two versions 2.5.6
13:13 koomi thought you'd written something about that ...
13:13 uschi make sure you use the most recent one
13:14 uschi no, that was someone else
13:14 uschi i tried it, and it worked
13:14 uschi it is no good to have to different versions with exactly the same version number
13:14 uschi everone is highly confused
13:16 koomi ridicules the idea of a version number :)
13:25 weboholic hello? anyone here?
13:29 weboholic after installing quickstart 3.8.1 login is inpossible. could you pls provide some help?
13:30 just2b is there a user in the db? js+cookies enabled?
13:31 weboholic yes
13:31 weboholic doublechecked also md5 entry in the db
13:31 weboholic it is correct
13:32 just2b another browser tried?
13:34 Phlogiston_ if I'm using old imagmagick 4.2.9, do I need to set LZW? Do i need that at all?
13:34 weboholic yes - ff2 and ie6
13:35 just2b weboholic: sounds quite strange.. don't know if it solves, .. tried 4.1.1?
13:36 alexwx hello friends, can i somehow specialy wrap into span just some pages? maybe by its id, but how? is it possible? thank you
13:36 Phlogiston_ alexwx: I think you can't wrap a whole page in a span, what do you want to do?
13:36 weboholic (a bit ashamed to answer) i've tried it at first, but there isn't a quickstart or testsite for 4.1, the dummy hasn't made any db entries and I got a bit confused in the documentation (it's a lot)
13:37 alexwx Phlogiston_ sorry i mean in a TMENU like menu item :), not all page
13:37 weboholic just2b: php5 + mysql4 if it from some importance
13:37 Phlogiston_ then just use in TMENU the wrap option
13:37 just2b weboholic uhh, there are some problems with some php versions
13:38 alexwx Phlogiston_ wrap option just for any pages, identifieng by ID?
13:38 alexwx Phlogiston_ sorry for some pages
13:39 fred^ is there any webpage leechers that also download the images specified in the css file?
13:40 Phlogiston_ Can I use a relative path for $TYPO3_CONF_VARS['GFX']['im_path_lzw'] = '' in localconf? Or is that impossible?
13:41 weboholic just2b: can you give a url with a list?
13:41 Phlogiston_ alexwx: not sure what you mean sorry
13:41 weboholic mine php is 5.2.1
13:42 weboholic which is quite new and I consider it possible that 3.8.1 does not support php5.2.1
13:43 alexwx Phlogiston_ i am building TMENU classic, and i need something like
13:43 alexwx wrap = <em>|</em>
13:43 alexwx if (pid == 11 || pid == 12..) {
13:43 alexwx wrap = <span>|</span>
13:43 alexwx }
13:43 alexwx ofcourse this is not real, just for sense
13:44 just2b weboholic sorry I am to less in this because I don't have to deal with these things.. try a 4.1.1... no reason to set up a 3.8.1
13:46 weboholic I would very much try it, but 4.1 has no quickstart and I am at a point "evaluate typo3"
13:46 weboholic :)
13:47 Phlogiston_ Do i need gdlib for typo3?
13:48 just2b Phlogiston_ IMO yes
13:48 Phlogiston_ I have a problem, when I create images with gifbuilder, the images are empty...
13:49 Phlogiston_ if I set gdlib_png then I can see the content of the images, but I have other problems with my menu then... what shall I try? I'm using the recommended IM4 version for T*
13:53 Ries today I just saw the second nysql crash already on somebody site :)
14:01 Phlogiston_ omg I'm going crazy again... could anyone please give me the localconf settings to use with IM 4.2.9? Because my givs are empty :(
14:01 Phlogiston_ *gifs
14:03 weboholic just2b: can you give a fast hint: how to get 4.1 running even though no dummy or quickstart is installed? (reason for asking is the fact that after install the be_users table is empty)
14:03 Ries Phlogiston_: are you sure you webserver can process gif's?
14:04 just2b weboholic depends on what you want... for testing use a installer, wamp/xamp with everything ready.. or do you want just some pages..?
14:05 Phlogiston_ Ries: how should I check? I'm pretty sure beacuse for the menu it works, but not for some photos (jpg) I use togehter with GIFBUILDER
14:05 weboholic just2b: as a developer I want everything :) ... I am actually used to set up things myself, but right now time is pressing me, so I am getting xampp for fast switching between php 4 and 5
14:06 m4rtijn Phlogiston_ .. the install tool -- image section
14:06 Phlogiston_ I'm processing like this: http://pastebin.ca/457594
14:06 just2b weboholic yeah don't waste this time your time ;)
14:06 Phlogiston_ m4rtijn: yes but I tried all the settings... when I set gdlib_png=1 then the images are shown correctly but the I have a little problem with the menu... :(
14:08 Ries Phlogiston_: ofthen it's not possible to send ovr a config becayse they are server specific
14:08 m4rtijn i dont mean any settings though.. you can test functionality there
14:08 Phlogiston_ Ries: hmm I know, but can you help me? =)
14:09 Ries Phlogiston_: I can login in your install tool and take a look
14:10 Ries send me a PM with URL, and password
14:10 Phlogiston_ Ries: hmm no :) Shall I send you the localconf? =)
14:10 Phlogiston_ hmm ok
14:12 bauschan bauschan prepares for his ride to t3dd07
14:13 bauschan anybody in here going to Dietikon too?
14:19 bauschan g2g cu
14:24 Ruudi hello
14:25 Ruudi anyone got an idea how to edit lang file that includes russian and other lovely
14:25 Ruudi letters
14:25 just2b ruudi, with an utf-8 editor?
14:25 Ruudi ao it wouldn't break up any other language
14:25 Ruudi havent had luck with utf-8
14:26 Ruudi my typo3 is set to force utf-8 but still newloginbox lang file gets rotten after saving
14:26 Ruudi and doesnt show russian correctly in quixplorer editor
14:27 j0hndeere Good morning, earthlings.
14:28 Ruudi hello
14:28 moogalyn hi
14:28 weboholic just2b: with 4.1 cleared the be_users table and left only one row - the admin - also cleared the 'lastlogin' . Tried to loing: no luck, same errmsg - make sure to spell ... blah blah. Then I checked once again the table - typo had set lastlogin to 1177511322 (I assume this the timestamp for now) .... anyway my point is that the application correctly identifies the row in the user table but...
14:28 moogalyn can someone tell me how i would specify a page as the index page?
14:28 weboholic ..."forgets" to set some boolean vars or ... I don't know ... so no real login is being made.
14:28 weboholic grrr
14:28 weboholic :)
14:35 weboholic just2b: funny thing: in the sys_log table it is logged that userid 1 (me) did actually successfully logged in .... :)
14:36 just2b weboholic so maybe still js/cookie/php/mysql problem?
14:36 weboholic "js/cookie/php/mysql" is nice :D ;)
14:36 Phlogiston_ what php version would you recommend for latest typo3?
14:37 weboholic Phlogiston_: always when a tool supports php4 and php5, you take php4 :)
14:37 Phlogiston_ weboholic: ah ok :) gg
14:38 just2b mittwald has got 4.4.1& mysql 5.0.16 i guess
14:38 moogalyn can someone tell me how i would specify a page as the index page?
14:38 Phlogiston_ just2b: ok
14:38 weboholic just2b: is it possible to integrate java applications into typo?
14:38 Phlogiston_ I have 4.4.1 but mysql4 ;)
14:39 just2b weboholic as far as you can integrate them into html/php i guess
14:46 Phlogiston_ I have a small problem: I'm using cwt_community to edit a users profile... then I use userview ext to display those information, but when I user goes to the view page, he needs to - lets say- hard reload that page (with shift +reload in browser) to see the changes... what can I do to avoid that?
14:47 just2b set it to no_cache
14:47 uwemos shift +reload looks like browsercache
14:47 Phlogiston_ uwemos: yes... so what can I do?
14:48 just2b page properties > no cache
14:48 Phlogiston_ just2b: yes that works :)
14:48 uwemos Nothing - If user enables the browser cache - You can do nothing
14:48 Phlogiston_ thanks :)
14:48 just2b uwemos.. not quite true ;)
14:49 uwemos shure?
14:49 uwemos If I don't tell the browser to get the file from the internet it will load it from it's cache
14:50 uwemos You where talking about T3-Cache
14:50 just2b you can modify the page header
14:50 uwemos true - bah
14:50 just2b take a look at > http://typo3.org/documentation/document-library/references/doc_core_tsref/4.0.0/view/7/3/ > sendCacheHeaders
14:53 uwemos I never user that before ... But sometimes that might be very handy
14:53 just2b yeah the tsref is kind of endless
14:53 uwemos Indeed ...
14:53 uwemos You discover features only if you need them
14:54 uwemos Like that channel here - just stumbled over it ...
14:54 just2b and if you read and search and read and search.. otherwise you will never discover
14:55 just2b bad thing is that all the information is lost after the session
14:55 uwemos True ...
14:55 uwemos Books do not really help in most cases
14:56 uwemos It's alot try and error until you get used to it
14:56 uwemos So it's time for me to go home ;)
14:56 uwemos Bye
14:58 Phlogiston_ what means fliesstext in english?
15:00 just2b you don't mean blocksatz?
15:11 Phlogiston_ just2b: hmm not sure..
15:11 just2b like linksbündig, rechtsbündig, zentriert + ...... ?
15:11 just2b this would be justified ...
15:11 just2b justification, sry
15:12 just2b or justify
15:16 Phlogiston_ http://www.zurichmasterclass.org/en/master-class-2006/referenten/ <- I have a really weird problem there... if you change the language the german you see the nice hover effect but in english it does not work any clue? Its done with a gamma effect with gifbuilder.. same ext template for both langs...
15:16 FloLeBlanc hi all
15:16 Phlogiston_ hi FloLeBlanc
15:16 FloLeBlanc anyone who can help me out with plaintext linkrendering?
15:17 just2b Phlogiston_ take a look at the source code and find the difference
15:19 Stasik hello
15:19 Stasik whey does my code not work
15:19 Stasik http://phpfi.com/229737
15:19 Phlogiston_ just2b: good idea
15:19 Stasik i wanna show page:authoor if not empty and webamser if empty
15:20 Phlogiston_ just2b: hmm only the images are different of course... and i have that at the end of the page:
15:20 Phlogiston_ (of the english page)
15:21 Phlogiston_ <!-- Cached page generated 25-04-07 17:17. Expires 26-04-07 17:17 -->
15:21 Phlogiston_ could that be a hint?
15:21 Phlogiston_ I don't have that on the german one
15:21 just2b dont really think so
15:21 pulponair anyone ever used devlog?
15:21 Stasik hello?
15:21 Stasik any1 can help me?
15:22 just2b statisk, maybe work with required=1? just an idea
15:24 max_muetze hey guys, can you please help me again? i am searching for a list of the markers in tt_news or how i can add some new ones..
15:24 Stasik i wanna show a default wert
15:24 Stasik valuve
15:24 Phlogiston_ just2b: now even the pics don't show up if on english
15:25 Phlogiston_ this is very strang
15:26 FloLeBlanc where can I find out what styles.content.parseFunc.tags.link does?
15:27 FloLeBlanc nvm found it only don't know how this can render the plaintext content hmm
15:30 max_muetze how can i add some markers for use in a template? can somebody provide some literature?
15:30 Phlogiston_ anyone is intersted helping me out? do you need TS?
15:32 Stasik how can i get a if else construction
15:32 Stasik if page:author!="" show author else show webmaster
15:34 FloLeBlanc Anyone ever had the problem that in the plaintext version of a page (type=99) the links vanish?
15:36 m4rtijn max? add markers in a template? maybe I missed smth I just got reconnect
15:38 Stasik how can i get a if else construction
15:38 Stasik <Stasik> if page:author!="" show author else show webmaster
15:39 max_muetze m4rtijn: yes, i like to add markers to format the date strings in tt_news... one for each: day, month, year
15:40 max_muetze Phlogiston_: why are you using different images (the persons are still the same, right)?
15:40 m4rtijn erm.. you dont have to do that with markers max
15:40 FloLeBlanc if demo: [loginUser = *] do this [global]
15:40 max_muetze in the template i only have ###NEWS_DATE###
15:41 max_muetze or are there others?
15:41 FloLeBlanc else can be achieved if you just overwrite the same variable in the if statement after a basic assignement
15:41 m4rtijn I think it has an german_date extension
15:41 solshark Hello all. I'm using TV and have some problem with "Image" element. TV resize original image and insert small version.
15:41 m4rtijn @max
15:42 m4rtijn ah, no.. sorry that was fe_user_reg..
15:42 max_muetze ah, i'll look for this extension... i like the format on www.ingo-renner.com...
15:42 max_muetze ah
15:43 FloLeBlanc max_muetze: do you just want to change the dateformat of tt_news?
15:44 FloLeBlanc (for that tt_news uses the php strftime function) f.e: date_stdWrap.strftime= %A, %e. %B %Y
15:44 max_muetze FloLeBlanc: yes, i like to get the same/similar format like on www.ingo-renner.com; the greater day-numbers and lower rest
15:44 max_muetze greater=bigger
15:44 FloLeBlanc ah ok hmm
15:45 max_muetze i thought it should work if i had one marker for each piece of the date... one for the day, one for the month and one for the year
15:50 kraftb hey .... anyone with IE7 here ?
15:51 just2b yeah
15:51 af_ me too
15:51 FloLeBlanc yep
15:53 max_muetze me too
15:53 max_muetze :)
15:53 af_ plenty
15:55 max_muetze can somebody help me with the marker task??
15:56 max_muetze how do i get the date of tt_news formatted like on www.ingo-renner.com??
15:56 max_muetze there must be a way...
15:57 max_muetze i mind on the markers in the template...
15:58 max_muetze i only can use the ###NEWS_DATE###-marker and like to use ###NEWS_DAY### ###NEWS_MONTH### and ###NEWS_YEAR### - what do i have to do?
15:59 kraftb with ie 7 please look here : http://hc.projects.think-open.at/
15:59 kraftb hcdemo / demo123
16:00 kraftb and tell me if the logo on the left is correct or wrong
16:00 kraftb i heard it should be a little bit to much up
16:01 max_muetze_ re
16:02 max_muetze_ anybody answered to my question? my accu...
16:05 moogalyn how would i tell typo3 to open all internal links to open in the same window? or would that be something i would have to set per link?
16:05 just2b moogalyn >
16:05 just2b PAGE_TARGET =
16:05 just2b content.pageFrameObj =
16:05 just2b styles.content.links.extTarget =
16:05 just2b styles.content.mailform.target =
16:05 just2b styles.content.searchresult.resultTarget =
16:05 just2b styles.content.links.target =
16:05 just2b styles.content.searchresult.target =
16:05 just2b into the CONSTANTS!!
16:05 moogalyn awesome
16:05 moogalyn thanks
16:06 max_muetze_ just2b: could you give me a short hint with my problem?
16:06 max_muetze_ or just tell me where to search...
16:07 max_muetze_ please
16:08 just2b didn't get your problem
16:08 max_muetze_ i want insert three markers into my tt_news-template: ###NEWS_DAY### ###NEWS_MONTH### and ###NEWS_YEAR### and i don't know how...
16:09 max_muetze_ it seems that these markers have to set up first...
16:09 just2b if you want to make it right > create an extension and create the content for the markers in the function you get with the hook
16:10 just2b > extraItemMarkerProcessor
16:10 max_muetze_ hum... i only want the look like on www.ingo-renner.com... and therefore i need to create an extension?
16:11 elbart hi
16:11 just2b (t)
16:22 max_muetze just2b: i think if it is so difficult to create some new markers, they could already exist within tt_news. how can i find out about this?
16:23 just2b you could look into the template or the code itself
16:27 max_muetze just2b: i looked into the template before and found nothing but where in the code could i find sth like this? in which files is this written in general?
16:28 just2b in pi/class.tx_ttnws
16:29 max_muetze thx,i'll look
16:48 rom_fr hi
16:49 rom_fr is there someone good with indexed_search ?
16:51 rom_fr is there someone at least ? :)
16:52 rom_fr ok.... bye
17:03 {kENNy} moin
17:14 kraftb hey ....
17:14 kraftb anyone here who can make a little test in ie7 for me ...
17:16 just2b sure
17:21 kraftb http://hc.projects.think-open.at/
17:21 kraftb hcdemo / demo123
17:21 kraftb have a look if the logo at the left is too high
17:22 just2b yes
17:23 kraftb its too much up ?
17:24 just2b yes
17:29 kraftb georg: still after shift-reload ?
17:29 AlexGT Morning
17:31 AlexGT i have a lill problem here, and i want to ask some questions, if someone can help me thanks by advance.
17:32 AlexGT Im Running SLES10, PHP5,MYSQL5,typo3 4.1.1. and when i paste de address http://localhost/typo3_src-4.1.1/typo3/install/index.php?mode=123&step=1&password=joh316
17:32 AlexGT my mozilla browser only shows "localconf.php" any ideas ???
17:32 just2b bernahrd, much better
17:33 kraftb what means "much" ?
17:33 just2b 10px missing than it is centered
17:34 kraftb should it be 10px lower or higher ?
17:34 just2b 10px lower
17:34 kraftb now ?
17:35 AlexGT anybody ?
17:37 just2b kraft: no difference
17:41 AlexGT h
17:43 max_muetze could it be that t3 builds its stylesheet_xxxxxx.css by a sum of all css-files (of the extensions) after selecting the template? i ask because a change of the original css doesn't effect the site... so there are no changes viewable..
17:43 AlexGT anybody, can help me, ?
17:54 uschi aah, kraftb, which page is it this time?
17:59 uschi kennt jemand eine seite, wo man sich mal eben eine url decoden lassen kann?
17:59 uschi oh sorry, wrong languge
17:59 uschi +a
17:59 uschi hey bedlamhotel :)
17:59 uschi are you there or out for lunch?
18:00 uschi does anyone know a webpage where i can quickly decode a url?
18:00 uschi i have seen one, but forgotten where
18:01 AlexGT maybe lunch time,
18:01 bedlamhotel uschi: here, not lunching for an hour or two yet.
18:01 bedlamhotel 'decode'?
18:01 uschi great
18:01 bedlamhotel urlencoded stuff?
18:01 uschi yes
18:01 AlexGT uschi do you have some experience, installing typo3 >? by anychance
18:02 uschi what is your problem?
18:03 AlexGT im stucked, trying to get te installation tool.. mozilla just display :localconf.php is not found!,
18:04 bedlamhotel uschi: http://www.danieljmalone.com/tools/url-decode/decode_url.php
18:04 AlexGT Sles10+php5+mysql5,typo34.1.1.1
18:04 bedlamhotel AlexGT: /create/ localconf.php. Problem will disappear :)
18:04 uschi hm, never had that problem, AlexGT
18:04 uschi thx, bedlamhotel
18:05 AlexGT where, bcause i got created by untaring, in /srv/www/htdocs/cms/typo3conf/localconf.php
18:06 bedlamhotel AlexGT: ok. different problem then. That should work /if/ you are running the install tool from /srv/www/htdocs/cms/typo3/install/
18:08 AlexGT You don't have permission to access /cms/typo3/install/index.php on this server.
18:09 AlexGT -rw-r--r-- 1 root www 160 Apr 2 15:41 README.txt
18:09 AlexGT -rw-r--r-- 1 root www 89 Apr 2 15:41 _.htaccess
18:09 AlexGT -rw-r--r-- 1 root www 46 Apr 2 15:41 clear.gif
18:09 AlexGT -rw-r--r-- 1 root www 155 Apr 2 15:41 default.htm
18:09 AlexGT -rw-r--r-- 1 root www 155 Apr 2 15:41 default.html
18:09 AlexGT -rw-r--r-- 1 root www 155 Apr 2 15:41 index.htm
18:09 AlexGT -rw-r--r-- 1 root www 155 Apr 2 15:41 index.html
18:09 AlexGT -rw-r--r-- 1 root www 3149 Apr 25 11:54 index.php
18:09 AlexGT ill change the chown to wwwrun
18:10 vagy hello
18:10 bedlamhotel AlexGT: but you clearly DO have access to the install tool, or you wouldn't have gotten that original error. WHERE are you trying to access the install tool from?
18:10 bedlamhotel AlexGT: use phpfi.com for code output...
18:10 vagy anyone has any experience/insight about this error message? : "Cannot find configuration. This file is probably executed from the wrong location"
18:10 vagy the installation was fine until a new Plesk was installed
18:11 max_muetze can u please tell me where the +ext tt_news-config file is located?
18:13 max_muetze is it in the filesystem or in the database?
18:13 AlexGT i dont have access to install tool,
18:13 AlexGT 1st mysite.com/cms/ a blank screen only !!
18:13 AlexGT 2nd http://localhost/typo3_src-4.1.1/typo3/install/index.php?mode=123&step=1&password=joh316 !! localconf.php is not found! !! message
18:14 max_muetze AlexGT: did you check if all files are completely uploaded? did you check that the localconf.php is in your typo3conf dir?
18:14 bedlamhotel AlexGT: you are tyring to do things two different ways at the same time.
18:15 bedlamhotel AlexGT: It looks like you have not set things up very well.
18:15 AlexGT srv/www/htdocs/cms/typo3conf/localconf.php using a find / | grep "localconf.php"
18:16 AlexGT would you want the localconf.php content ? where i can check the paths ?
18:17 bedlamhotel yes AlexGT, but you are executing the TYPO3 files located at /srv/www/htdocs/typo3_src-4.1.1
18:17 bedlamhotel ...so of course TYPO3 cannot find localconf.php where you've put it.
18:17 bedlamhotel AlexGT: do you know how to create symlinks?
18:18 AlexGT rw-r--r-- 1 wwwrun www 7695 Apr 2 15:41 README.txt
18:18 AlexGT -rw-r--r-- 1 wwwrun www 425 Apr 2 15:41 RELEASE_NOTES.txt
18:18 AlexGT -rw-r--r-- 1 wwwrun www 5051 Apr 2 15:41 _.htaccess
18:18 AlexGT -rw-r--r-- 1 wwwrun www 46 Apr 2 15:41 clear.gif
18:18 AlexGT drwxrwx-w- 4 wwwrun www 104 Apr 2 15:41 fileadmin
18:18 AlexGT lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 41 Apr 23 10:59 index.php -> /srv/www/htdocs/typo3_src-4.1.1/index.php
18:18 AlexGT -rw-r--r-- 1 wwwrun www 361 Apr 23 10:31 phpinfo.php
18:18 AlexGT lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 15 Apr 23 09:51 t3lib -> typo3_src/t3lib
18:18 AlexGT lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 42 Apr 25 10:51 tslib -> /srv/www/htdocs/cms/typo3/sysext/cms/tslib
18:18 AlexGT lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 15 Apr 23 09:51 typo3 -> typo3_src/typo3
18:18 AlexGT lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 18 Apr 23 09:51 typo3_src -> ../typo3_src-4.1.1
18:18 AlexGT drwxrwx-w- 4 wwwrun www 344 Apr 25 11:57 typo3conf
18:18 AlexGT drwxrwx-w- 2 wwwrun www 48 Apr 2 15:41 typo3temp
18:18 AlexGT drwxrwx-w- 5 wwwrun www 152 Apr 2 15:41 uploads
18:18 AlexGT there are my symlinks ? are wrong way ?
18:20 bedlamhotel AlexGT: please use phpfi.com instead of dumping huge amounts of code into your IRC client.
18:21 bedlamhotel What directory did you run ls -h on to get that output.
18:21 bedlamhotel ?
18:23 AlexGT hi
18:23 AlexGT /srv/www/htdocs/cms
18:24 AlexGT bedlam, what file i have to upload to phpfi.com ?
18:25 bedlamhotel AlexGT: use phpfi.com for example when you want to show the output of commands, TS code, php code etc.
18:28 bedlamhotel AlexGT: what happens if you try to access http://localhost.com/cms/typo3/install ?
18:28 AlexGT Forbidden
18:28 AlexGT You don't have permission to access /cms/typo3/install on this server.
18:29 bedlamhotel AlexGT: then it's a server config issue. Doesn't look like anything specific to TYPO3.
18:30 bedlamhotel AlexGT: make sure that /cms is not owned by root or something.
18:30 AlexGT ok
18:31 AlexGT owned by wwwrun:www
18:40 Wol hi everyone, I have a little question about TMENU.
18:41 Wol i want to add an image at the last element in the second level menu
18:41 Wol ...
18:42 Wol it's not easy to explain... :P
18:42 Wol anyone understand what i want?
18:50 Ries Wol: properly you need optionsplit to do it
18:50 Wol ok...
18:50 vagy anyone has any experience/insight about this error message? : "Cannot find configuration. This file is probably executed from the wrong location"
18:51 vagy the installation was fine until a new Plesk was installed
18:51 Wol do you have doc for it?
18:51 Ries Wol: check tsRef....
18:51 Wol ok i check that tnkx !
18:52 Ries I don't have a sample at hand
18:52 Wol yeah Ries...
18:52 Wol but that dosen't work
18:52 Wol doesn't :P
18:53 Wol check this website: sim.fsg.ulaval.ca
18:53 Wol and foldout the last menu
18:53 Olegs anybody knows whether DAM 1.0.11 compatible with 4.1.1 ?
18:54 Wol the shadow need to be only on second level of the last item of the first level
18:54 Wol ...
18:54 Ries can you paste your TS?
18:54 Wol yeah 2 second
18:54 Wol s
18:55 Wol http://phpfi.com/229789
18:56 Wol i tried the split option...
18:56 Wol but that doesn't work well
18:56 uschi anyone here who played with lfeditor?
18:57 uschi it does not find any language files
18:57 Ries I don't know the foldout menu system... but it looks good to me
18:57 Wol hehe...
18:58 Wol yeah but the second level is with TMENU
18:58 Wol only the first is with foldoutmenu
18:59 Ries can you ad teh option split to your second object? just to be sure....
18:59 Wol ok but i tried it :P i will try just for you :P
19:00 max_muetze can somebody please tell me where the +ext tt_news-config file is located?
19:00 bedlamhotel max_muetze: what is the "tt_news-config file"?
19:01 Wol ok! :P
19:01 Wol i make the change!
19:01 uschi bedlamhotel, you ever had something to do with lfeditor?
19:01 Wol http://phpfi.com/229792
19:01 bedlamhotel uschi: never heard of it. What is it?
19:02 uschi sounds very nice, an alternative to llxml
19:02 max_muetze bedlamhotel: it is a template file for the ttnews extension
19:03 bedlamhotel uschi: I keep meaning to ask you: does that llxml tool actuall DO anything? As far as I can tell, it saves new values, but they don't become available to the FE.
19:03 bedlamhotel max_muetze: 'template' is not a very informative word in the TYPO3 context. Are you looking for TS template? HTML template?
19:03 Wol Ries : any idea?
19:04 max_muetze bedlamhotel: it is located in the t3 tree under template storage - i would say a ts template
19:04 uschi it does things for be, bedlamhotel
19:04 bedlamhotel uschi: lfeditor manual says this: "The update resistent translation of frontend extensions is only with TYPO3 installation below 4.x possible."...
19:04 bedlamhotel uschi: but it gives options for translating FE extension strings...
19:04 uschi might be true, but if i change those things, be sure, i will post in the bugtracker
19:05 bedlamhotel max_muetze: so far, nothing you've said gives me any definite idea what you want. Let me try another approach: what the heck are you trying to DO?
19:05 uschi problem is, it does not find any files to edit, so i cannot do anything, bedlam
19:05 uschi bedlamhotel, i mean
19:06 bedlamhotel uschi: sorry, I was talking about llxml.
19:10 max_muetze bedlamhotel: i try to edit the css for my ttnews-list-view... i tried editing the file in the typ3conf/ext/tt_news/res/tt_news_styles.css but nothing happened
19:11 bedlamhotel max_muetze: bad idea.
19:11 bedlamhotel max_muetze: if you edit extension files directly, you will LOSE ALL CHANGES if you ever update the extension.
19:11 max_muetze ah, ok, but it is possible to "overwrite" css-settings?
19:12 bedlamhotel max_muetze: better approach: copy all the CSS (or at least the styles you want to change) from that file into a stylesheet you're already using, change them as you see fit, and add this line to your TS template:
19:13 bedlamhotel plugin.tt_news._CSS_DEFAULT_STYLES >
19:14 Ries gotta go... sorry
19:14 max_muetze ah, this > symbol without parameter means sth like trash, right?
19:15 bedlamhotel max_muetze: basically means 'unset'...
19:16 max_muetze ok ^^
19:16 max_muetze thx, so i'm busy now... ;)
19:19 uschi bedlamhotel can you please have a look into my be? perhaps i misunderstood something
19:22 max_muetze bedlamhotel: i put this line into my template setup and all is still the same... the whole layout is ok...
19:22 max_muetze cleared all caches...
19:24 max_muetze bedlamhotel: thx a lot... u helped me very much and i let u now in "ruh".. i'll have a further look tomorrow...
19:27 bedlamhotel uschi: what's up?
19:27 bedlamhotel max_muetze: I can't tell if you're saying it worked or that it didn't work.
19:28 uschi i do not understand what is meant by pathXLLFiles
19:28 bedlamhotel max_muetze: the way to debug stuff like what you're describing is to approach it the same way you would if there was no CMS involved: compare the expected html/css output to the ACTUAL html/css output.
19:28 uschi do I have to copy the language files to there
19:28 uschi ?
19:28 bedlamhotel uschi: I don't even know what you're referring to...
19:29 uschi config of lfeditor
19:30 bedlamhotel uschi: good question. I might try that but I have no special insight...
19:30 kraftb hey
19:31 kraftb georg: still here ?
19:31 kraftb or anyone else with IE7 ?
19:33 Boonkerz jo
19:33 Boonkerz hier
19:33 Boonkerz yesw
19:33 kraftb hi
19:33 Boonkerz i mean :D
19:33 kraftb ok ... can you have a look here:
19:33 kraftb http://hc.projects.think-open.at/
19:33 kraftb hcdemo / demo123
19:34 kraftb if the logo at the left is in the center of the left box
19:34 Boonkerz humanocare?
19:34 kraftb yes
19:34 Boonkerz yes it is :)
19:35 kraftb like in FF ?
19:35 kraftb and IE 6 ?
19:35 kraftb fine ...
19:35 uschi need a safari-test again, kraftb?
19:35 kraftb well .... i have an mac os X vmware image now ...
19:35 Boonkerz but the menu font is not so good
19:36 kraftb but humanocare is already online www.humanocare.at
19:36 kraftb i just have to fix the logo .... on the live site it's still broken
19:37 Boonkerz on ie the logo is more on the top as in ff
19:38 kraftb on the live site or on the test-site ?
19:43 FloLeBlanc hi all
19:44 FloLeBlanc can anyone tell me how I get Direct_mail to render filelinks and images that are in the upload folder in the plaintext version? :)
19:48 Ries so if you live and work in latin America, then you better get used to this : http://www.perreoradio.com/
19:48 j0hndeere Good afternoon, humans.
19:54 j0hnd33r3 GHOSTBUSTERS!!!
19:54 Boonkerz kraft on test
19:55 Boonkerz kraftb, on both sites
19:55 Boonkerz the same
20:25 AlexGT some one in Central America?
20:25 AlexGT more specific, Guatemalans ?
20:26 AlexGT any body breathes ?
20:26 just2b lol...
20:32 uschi just2b, you are one of those sr_feuser_register experts, aren't you?
20:34 just2b no, as I said before.. happy if it works.,. still the problem with the delete-link?
20:34 uschi the one in the edit form is solved
20:34 just2b ah ok
20:35 uschi thx to dax77, was a really bloody stupid copy/paste and then not edit the whole line error produced by uschi
20:36 just2b and what is the new proble,m?
20:36 uschi but i am still wondering what i can do whith the display mode delete
20:36 uschi because, other then in the edit form, if you insert the delete display mode on a page, you get killed without any preview
20:37 just2b uuuhh.. nice
20:37 just2b the whole ext should be thrown away and created new...
20:37 uschi yes, indeed
20:38 just2b it's a big mess of crap... sry to say that... the monster templates and everyhing else
20:38 bedlamhotel uschi: how did you solve the edit form prob? [Mine won't edit OR delete...]
20:38 uschi by configuring it CORRECTLY
20:38 uschi and it depends on the version
20:39 uschi mind you, there are to releases of 2.5.6
20:39 uschi the first one had a lot of problems most of them are fixed in the new one
20:42 bedlamhotel uschi: latter version 2.5.6. Define 'correctly'; the configuration I've got is identical in all respects (as far as I can tell) to working installs of previous versions.
20:42 uschi hm, i can only give you mine then
20:42 uschi with the delete link i made the mistake to configure the editPID twice, and no confirmPID
20:43 bedlamhotel well, I can't actually debug my config at the moment, but is it a wildly different setup, or is it some small, new item?
20:43 uschi and if the editPID points to the wrong page, the delete link gets not wirtten
20:43 uschi i cannot tell you, because this is the first time i configured the thing
20:44 bedlamhotel Oh right :-)
20:44 bedlamhotel Maybe just2b is right and we should start the damned thing from scratch...
20:45 uschi yes, with integrated login box
20:45 just2b in a new procect I used mailformplus for registering.. because extending is there so easy ;)
20:45 uschi but someone else started to somehting like that recently
20:45 just2b loginbox is always done with TS, at least here
20:46 uschi i would not use newloginbox but for the password forgotten feature
20:46 just2b yeah.. need to make this with TS ;)
20:47 just2b TS is always best way.. like my ext rgteaser ...
20:47 uschi possible, just2b?
20:47 just2b don't know
20:47 bedlamhotel uschi: what does the 'forgot password' link look like? Can you paste it in here?
20:47 just2b a form with a action and a userfunc behind it... something like that... ;)
20:48 uschi register yourself with dev.datenwolken.de
20:48 uschi but there is no logout button currently
20:49 just2b did I say that i hate the design of newloginbox? ;)
20:49 uschi well, not very often, just2b :)
20:50 just2b btw the link looks like ?no_cache=1&tx_newloginbox_pi1%5Bforgot%5D=1
20:51 uschi yes, and what can i do with this?
20:51 just2b which is also handled not correct because it is possible to spam everybody with it...
20:51 just2b it should first check if the email-address is really in the system
20:51 uschi and it does not?
20:52 uschi i thought this one is solved?
20:52 bedlamhotel uschi: was just curious about it.
20:52 just2b ok i check out the newest version.. mom
20:52 uschi you mean, someone can put an arbitrary mail address into that form and get's an e-mail?
20:52 just2b yeah > Wir konnten keine mit dem angegeben Benutzernamen verknüpfte Email-Adresse finden. Aus diesem Grund können wir Ihnen kein Passwort zusenden. Vielleicht haben Sie Ihre Email-Adresse fehlerhaft eingegeben (Groß-/Kleinschreibug wird unterschieden!) oder Sie haben sich eventuell noch garnicht registriert.
20:53 uschi wer diese dinger textet gehoert auch in den deutschunterricht geschickt *rant*
20:53 uschi sorry, wrong language
20:54 just2b if i had more time... ;)
20:54 uschi is this really so? checking capital letters in an email address?
20:54 uschi this is ridiculous
20:55 uschi if i could get this lfeditor running i could do something about it
21:06 Guest6281953 Hi all! We upgraded from 3.8.1 to 4.0.5. Everything works fine, except the contact forms look differnt!
21:06 Guest6281953 Is there anything that changed with the css definitions!?!?
21:06 just2b update wizard run through?
21:06 socken23 Yes we did
21:07 socken23 Should I try it again!?
21:07 just2b if you want
21:07 socken23 ok, let me check..
21:08 socken23 just2b: You're my hero!
21:08 socken23 ;-) Somehow, it didn't work the first time!
21:08 socken23 perfect, thanks alot
21:08 just2b ;)
21:11 null0_ good evening
21:12 slammzero hi guys i got a question! how do i get rid of the status mails in the direct mailer extension?
21:13 LiamHogan I need help.
21:13 LiamHogan Why can't I get into #ubuntu?
21:23 seby i`m a newbie in typo3 can anybody help me ?
21:23 j0hndeere Yes
21:23 seby i messed up in the templates...
21:23 j0hndeere that was an easy question!
21:23 seby if you know
21:23 seby ... :)
21:24 seby where can i find a templavoila documentation in english ?
21:25 seby with how to and a small example
21:26 j0hndeere let's see...
21:27 j0hndeere have you seen the futuristic template building doc yet?
21:28 j0hndeere http://typo3.org/documentation/document-library/tutorials/doc_tut_ftb1/current/
21:29 seby no but i downloaded it now and i will read it tomorow...
21:29 j0hndeere it's a thorough tutorial.
21:30 seby do you have more documetation for templavoila ? i want to learn typo3, because i don`t want to use mambo-jumbo :)
21:38 claus Hi all, have anybody tried typo3 in Ubuntu feisty?
21:42 vagy byebye
21:50 just2b so good night
21:50 Affenbrotbaum gn8
22:00 AlexGT i got running typo2 installation tool!!!!!! Wooohoooooooooo
22:00 AlexGT damn! i wrote typo2 but is typo3
22:00 AlexGT im happy im feeling glad i am sunshine!!
22:01 AlexGT Claus r u still over there..
22:02 AlexGT mmmmmmmm
22:02 AlexGT u can find a nice recipe with ubuntu at. www.metalogo.cl, (spanish)
22:02 AlexGT ok, by now its enough for me have a nice night, boys and girls..
22:02 AlexGT God be with all yours..
22:03 bedlamhotel AlexGT: congrats :-)
22:03 AlexGT thx
22:03 AlexGT bye bye.. c ya..
22:03 uschi bedlamhotel, could you not confirm your registration?
22:04 bedlamhotel uschi: no, I was a dolt, can't read German and forgot to click the link :-D
22:06 uschi hm
22:07 uschi bedlamhotel, i do understand now what you mean by to many language values :)
22:12 Epiphex hmm, how do i get anything to persist through TV element assignment to an image tag
22:12 Epiphex like border
22:13 Epiphex tv seems to eliminate everything
22:13 Epiphex i at least need a css id to make it through so i can do it all with css i guess
22:14 uschi yes
22:14 bedlamhotel uschi: it's /crazy/.
22:14 uschi what?
22:14 bedlamhotel uschi: ...although I like the idea of formal and informal versions.
22:14 uschi this is no problem
22:14 bedlamhotel uschi: number of language values. I am a bit behind in this conversation.
22:15 Affenbrotbaum ggaaaaah
22:15 uschi splitting up a simple message with three sentences into three vars, that is what i mean
22:15 Affenbrotbaum I hate Firefox and IE
22:15 uschi this is not a problem of formal and informal version
22:16 uschi both, Affenbrotbaum, what went wrong?
22:16 Affenbrotbaum look at this page with IE and Firefox
22:16 Affenbrotbaum http://www.alexjettel.com/stuma/index.php?id=13
22:17 Affenbrotbaum With FireF the overflow just keeps going whereas with IE the div extends itself
22:17 bedlamhotel uschi: yes! Templates should NOT have opinions about such things.
22:17 uschi you set some kind of height to the container div
22:18 uschi you should use min-height, Affenbrotbaum
22:19 Affenbrotbaum ah
22:19 Affenbrotbaum ur a "schatz" uschi :) Where do learn those things ;)
22:19 uschi and then for ie6 an expression in your css
22:19 uschi selfhtml, Affenbrotbaum ;-)
22:19 Affenbrotbaum ;)
22:21 uschi funny thing is, you have not set any height on div#Info
22:21 uschi nor on div#alles
22:21 Affenbrotbaum well,works...right? ;)
22:22 bedlamhotel uschi + affenbrotbaum: if you're using conditional comments in the html code to call IE-specific stylesheets, it's easier and slightly more reliable to add a height for Internet Explorer--IE 6 and lower do 'height' like 'min-height'...
22:22 uschi no, it does not
22:23 uschi at times, bedlamhotel
22:23 uschi Affenbrotbaum, do you have webdeveloper installed
22:23 uschi because your html-code is not valid
22:24 uschi and it should be, if you are doing the float-thing
22:24 uschi there is a missing <ul>
22:24 uschi <div id="sidenav"><li><a href="index.php?id=13" onfocus="blurLink(this);" >Login</a></li><li><a href="index.php?id=23" onfocus="blurLink(this);" >Registierung</a></li></div>
22:25 uschi your tmenu wants a wrap
22:25 bedlamhotel [conditional comments are more reliable than IE's expressions since expressions rely on javascript being enabled]
22:25 uschi true, but those people who use ie6 do have it switched on, believe me
22:26 Affenbrotbaum webdeveloper? whats that? I use Dreamweaver
22:26 uschi well for height you are right, but when it comes to min-width and max-width those expressions do not any harm
22:26 bedlamhotel uschi: yes, it's true :)
22:26 uschi Affenbrotbaum, that is an ff-extension that helps you
22:27 uschi i am sure you want it
22:27 Affenbrotbaum thanks ;) ill try it ot
22:27 bedlamhotel uschi: height and width in IE 6 and lower both behave as min-height/min-width...
22:27 uschi if you are doing webpages it is a must have
22:27 uschi and install firebug too
22:27 Affenbrotbaum thanks for the tip
22:28 uschi ok, then we talk about max-width :)
22:29 Affenbrotbaum uschi, you mean this one ? https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/2897
22:29 uschi Affenbrotbaum, and your TMENU also wants a noBlur = 1
22:30 uschi no, i mean WebDeveloper toolbar
22:30 Affenbrotbaum ah taht one...got it thanks
22:33 uschi Tidy might be a good choice too
22:37 Affenbrotbaum hm
22:37 Affenbrotbaum thats wired
22:38 Affenbrotbaum the code that the parser show me thats wrong is not the one that I have in my template
22:45 Affenbrotbaum damn
22:46 Affenbrotbaum I cant find where typo3 changes the sourcecode of my html
22:47 gerarddd blame it on love.
22:47 gerarddd blame it on love!
22:47 gerarddd blame it on the love of rock and roll...
22:48 bedlamhotel gerarddd: no, love of rock and roll rarely affects html...
22:48 gerarddd i'm sorry i'm just thinking of the right words to say.
22:48 Affenbrotbaum uschi? any suggestions ?
22:48 gerarddd i know they don't sound the way i plan them to be.
22:50 uschi in ext/css_styled_content/static/setup.txt and constants.txt
22:51 uschi there is a nice and rocky ts feast for you
22:51 Affenbrotbaum that folder doesnt exist
22:51 Affenbrotbaum although I got css styles content installed
22:52 gerarddd Affenbrotbaum: typo3conf/ext/css_styled_content
22:52 uschi in your typo3source under sysext
22:52 Affenbrotbaum I know
22:52 Affenbrotbaum but it isnt there
22:52 gerarddd oh its a sysext? hahaha i'm still stuck in the world of 3.8
22:52 uschi it must be there
22:52 Affenbrotbaum :-p wanna see?
22:53 uschi no
22:54 Affenbrotbaum got it...thx
23:42 Affenbrotbaum How do I set the "TS Template Constant PID" ??

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