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#TYPO3 IRC log from : Wednesday 4 April 2007

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01:18 Ries Denyerec: ?
01:31 tansta couldn't believe how smooth i can install typo3 on IIS :)
01:31 tansta but i heard there's real URL problems, does anybody know of any ?
02:25 Ries tansta: may be because of the real url rewrite rules?
02:26 tansta Ries: have you experience it yourself yet ?
02:28 Denyerec well I think RealURL deals with mod Rewrite
02:29 Denyerec and I know IIS does not use the same format.
02:38 Ries tansta: Not with IIS
02:38 tansta so guys is there a way around it ?
02:38 Ries Denyerec: I don't think that real url deals with mod_rewrite,
02:38 Ries any rewrite engine should work
02:38 tansta ;)
02:38 tansta hmmm...
02:38 Ries tansta: I don't know shit about IIS, not do I want to....
02:38 tansta hahahaha
02:39 Denyerec Ohhh yes you're right.
02:39 tansta its cool Ries
02:39 tansta Denyerec: i remember you were saying you work on cubecart before right ?
02:39 tansta is their template easy to change ?
02:39 tansta hahahahhaa
02:39 tansta guest not :)
02:40 Denyerec They're "Ok"
02:40 Denyerec But the BE sucks badly
02:40 tansta oh...
02:40 Denyerec it's not a nice shop
02:40 tansta what do you recommend ?
02:40 tansta osCommerce ?
02:40 tansta their backend suck too
02:40 tansta what about zen cart ?
02:40 Denyerec I'm guessing the BE sucks...
02:41 tansta so they all sucks ;)
02:41 tansta god help me
02:42 Denyerec Yeah
02:42 Denyerec A good shop is something I have wanted to write for a LONG time.
02:42 Denyerec Pretty much forever.
02:42 Denyerec Was intending to make it a ruby project, but real life got in the way
02:43 tansta hahaha
02:43 tansta Ruby on Rails ?
02:43 tansta wow..that's ambicious
02:44 tansta anyway i am off to lunch
02:44 tansta will be back in an hour and a half ? :)
02:56 Denyerec Heh
02:56 Denyerec I'll be asleep by then mate :)
02:56 Denyerec gnight!
02:58 Ries tansta: cube is quite good compared to OSC
02:58 Ries zencard is much better then OSC
02:58 Denyerec does that make ZenCart better than Cube?
02:58 Denyerec :)
02:59 tansta Ries: so you think zencart is better ?
02:59 tansta sorry got caught up by the boss so still haven't got lunch :)
02:59 tansta hmmmm..
03:00 tansta let me study zen cart then :)
03:00 tansta okay going to lunch for real now ;)
03:02 Ries tansta: I know that zxen is betetr then OSC
03:02 Ries zen is based on OSC
03:02 Ries but much better template structures
03:09 Denyerec Right I MUST go to bed
03:09 Denyerec gnight guys
03:09 Denyerec good morning
03:09 Denyerec good afternoon
03:09 Denyerec good whenever :)
04:01 gerards man. i'm knackered.
04:01 gerards see yawl around.
04:30 d|g hi all
04:37 tansta hi all :)
05:15 dooooood anyone know where #drupal-support went?
06:00 just2b hi, no icq today`?
06:02 d|g just2b no
06:08 zatmania hi all
06:09 just2b hi zat
06:22 Jigal gooooooood morning, #typo3!
06:25 tansta does anybody know where i can see a tt_product shop in action ? :)
06:27 zatmania hi Jigal
06:36 Jigal hi tansta, zatmania
06:36 tansta hi Jigal...
06:36 just2b hi jigal, tansta & rest of irc ;)
06:36 Jigal hi just2b
06:36 tansta rest or irc ? that's alot of people ;)
06:37 just2b yeah why not g
06:37 tansta yeah why not ? hehehe
06:37 Jigal we'll just say hi to the rest of the universe ;-P
06:38 tansta hahaha why not ?
06:38 tansta maybe an alien will reply
06:43 bauschan hi @ all !
06:43 tobi good morning #typo3
06:44 bauschan hi tobi
06:44 Jigal hi bauschan, tobi
06:44 Jigal hi floxx
06:44 floxx hi jigal
06:45 bauschan oh, commerce got realeased !?
06:45 tansta when where ?
06:45 tansta how ?
06:45 tansta what ?
06:45 bauschan everthing will be fine now
06:45 tansta hehehe
06:45 tansta bauschan: when is it release ?
06:45 Jigal what is the cleanest, most TYPO3-like way to add som CSS to all pages in section of the page tree?
06:46 bauschan tansta: yesterday eve
06:46 bauschan http://typo3xdev.sourceforge.net/
06:48 floxx jigal: on specific pages i make that like this: [globalVar = TSFE:id = 51]page.includeCSS.file1=yourstyles.css[global]
06:49 tansta bauschan: how come i cant find it in the repository ?
06:50 bauschan tansta: it's just on svn
06:50 tansta i heard svn file some time are incomplete
06:51 Jigal floxx: no way I this can be inherited by the subpages of this page?
06:51 Jigal hi Fanty, helli_t3w
06:51 bauschan tansta: it's a nice package of 3.56 MB
06:51 bauschan looks like it's almost complete
06:51 bauschan ;)
06:51 Fanty morning
06:52 tansta yeah i know i cant wait :)
06:52 tansta so much needing it
06:52 tansta i hate to have to user oscommerce alongside typo3
06:52 bauschan hope it serves your needs, tansta
06:53 helli_t3w hi
06:53 tansta i hope it server everyone's needs :)
06:53 tansta then we can make money and donate to typo3 ;)
06:54 bauschan i stick to kb_shop
06:54 tansta is that better than tt_product ?
06:54 bauschan it's magic !
06:54 tansta no kidding
06:54 tansta gotta try it
06:54 bauschan but, I don't know anybody
06:55 bauschan besides Bernhard
06:55 tansta but its still Alpha
06:55 bauschan who is able to handle it ;)
06:55 tansta have you use it before ?
06:56 bauschan yes, I use the listing functions a lot
06:56 bauschan but, it's not working on 4.1.1, yet
06:56 tansta oh great :(
06:56 bauschan Bernard is quite busy at the moment
06:57 bauschan but he will fix it and
06:57 tansta yeah i think he's part of the core team working on something big
06:57 bauschan include some more magic :9
06:57 tansta hehehe
06:57 bauschan I have to leave for a while
06:57 floxx jigal: if you want css for all subpages of a page, just create an extension template for the page and then specify the css in template setup
06:57 bauschan cu later
06:58 tansta c ya
07:01 floxx jigal: what about that: http://typo3.org/documentation/document-library/extension-manuals/css_select/0.5.0/view/
07:07 Jigal floxx: extension is a per page solution; I'll take a look at specifying it in the extension template! Thanx!
07:07 floxx jigal: in extension u can activate recursive - so it will be inherted on subpages
07:08 Jigal floxx: You are right; I just got to that page (the intro only mentioned selecting style sheets per page)
07:14 max_muetze goood morning
07:22 solshark Hello all. I need create custom form in FE (3-7 custom fileds). After fill fields all content must be combine to one string with html-formatting and added to some tt_news category. It's possible?
07:26 zatmania http://www.fakenamegenerator.com/ -> lol
07:29 Jigal zatmania: no, it's handy: Bulk feature can be useful to test an application with a lot of data
07:30 zatmania floxx : i use this ext
07:30 zatmania Jigal : ?
07:31 zatmania ah yes for my url ;)
07:31 floxx zatmania: me not ;)
07:31 zatmania i use the another one very useful : js_select
07:32 tansta is list.netfielder.de down ?
07:32 floxx i will think about it - until now i wrote the css and js includes directly in template setup(s)
07:36 FloLeBlanc hi all
07:37 koomi moin
07:41 FloLeBlanc how is everyone
07:43 Jigal hi max_muetze, solshark, beev0r, Rapp, kermit_green, drindt, FloLeBlanc, koomi
07:43 FloLeBlanc hi Jigal, protector of good cooking :)
07:43 max_muetze hi Jigal
07:46 drindt Jigal: moin moin
07:48 max_muetze www.msdewey.com ;)
07:49 FloLeBlanc Ms Dewey , just tell me something about typo3...
07:49 FloLeBlanc she calls for help now...
07:49 FloLeBlanc that girl is incompetent :)
07:50 max_muetze ;)
07:50 zatmania lol
07:50 Jigal She almost makes you forget about other search engines ;-)
07:50 FloLeBlanc hehe
07:55 max_muetze can you tell me how to clear the search cach from indexed search engin?
07:57 max_muetze please?
08:01 marc| info - indexed search
08:02 FloLeBlanc is icq working for anyone in here?
08:02 marc| not for me
08:04 floxx floleblanc: nope, its dead
08:04 FloLeBlanc hmm :)
08:04 floxx aim is working anyway
08:05 marc| jabber too :P
08:06 FloLeBlanc hehe
08:07 Jigal but AIM, MSN and Yahoo! work ;-P
08:07 marc| IRC works
08:07 marc| believe me! :P
08:07 FloLeBlanc really? wow..
08:07 FloLeBlanc didn't think it would
08:07 smda yo!
08:07 Jigal so, plenty of ways to communicate left ;-)
08:08 FloLeBlanc Jigal: the problem is that I dislike to mail with some of my working partners all the time :)
08:16 m4rtijn good morning
08:22 bauschan Jigal: is it possible to somehow integrate her into the search toolbar ?
08:23 Jigal bauschan: she's copyright 2006 Microsoft Corp., so who knows where she might turn up again? Maybe nice in the vista side bar LOL
08:23 bauschan rofl
08:23 floxx huh? google down?
08:26 FloLeBlanc floxx: no, works
08:27 FloLeBlanc but hmm perhaps ms. dewey hit google with something :)
08:28 floxx she made the internet kaputt
08:29 FloLeBlanc wait.. we get signal... she says all of our internet are belong to her
08:29 floxx nooooo
08:29 FloLeBlanc launch every t3 for great justice!
08:31 FloLeBlanc any "victims" who'd help me to test: gmx, yahoo, web.de, any mail clients not listed (I can test Outlook, Outlook Express, Thunderbird, GMail)
08:31 FloLeBlanc (just check if the NL is readable)
08:36 pulponair hi there
08:37 pulponair any pdfgen wizards in here
08:37 FloLeBlanc hi pulp
08:38 m4rtijn hi pulp
08:41 zatmania hi pulp
08:41 smda hi pulp
08:45 m4rtijn hm, my fe_user ext registration form uses date format yyyy-mm-dd does anyone know where I can change that?
08:45 m4rtijn is that extension reliant or some general setting?
08:47 FloLeBlanc date_stdWrap.strftime= %A, %e. %B %Y => does it in tt_news, I could imagine that other variables can also use strftime
08:47 m4rtijn thx flo
08:49 m4rtijn hmm, nope :)
08:52 Tsoots hi, anybody know what formatting is used with tt_news dates
08:52 Tsoots i'm trying to get a date with formatting like 4.4.2007, month and day without leading zeros but %j.%n.%Y doesn't seem to be the correct syntax
08:52 m4rtijn <FloLeBlanc> date_stdWrap.strftime= %A, %e. %B %Y => does it in tt_news, I could imagine that other variables can also use strftime
08:53 FloLeBlanc %j - day of the year as a decimal number (range 001 to 366)
08:53 FloLeBlanc Tsoots: http://at2.php.net/manual/en/function.strftime.php
08:54 Tsoots i suppose my googling wasn't that good then, thanks
08:55 Tsoots "j Day of the month without leading zeros" says on php date
08:55 Tsoots so confusing for a n00b
08:55 FloLeBlanc well this also could be right, just know this from stdWrap.strftime :)
08:56 FloLeBlanc but yes.. formatting dates sucks hehe
09:00 m4rtijn hehe
09:10 max_muetze is someone knowing about the use of kj_imagelightbox with timtab in tt_news? i've done all from this manual: http://yaml.t3net.de/imagelightbox-und-News.145.0.html#c769 but i didn't get the image tab for activating the lightbox
09:11 max_muetze it works fine with the normal text /w image instead
09:13 FloLeBlanc is there a statistics for what mail clients are used by users?
09:16 m4rtijn hm, for the fe_user reg ext. there an extension for german date :p
09:16 m4rtijn funny that the extension is called german date.. whereas the format is used all over the world :p
09:17 FloLeBlanc `m4rtijn: american month/day/year
09:46 Jigal Arggggghhh!!! I added:
09:46 Jigal page.includeCSS.file1 = fileadmin/BMS/template/publist.css to the +ext template (Setup part) of the page where I need it, emptied caches, but no css added to the page :-(
09:47 FloLeBlanc page.includeCSS.startpagecss = fileadmin/template/css/startpage.css
09:47 FloLeBlanc works for me
09:47 FloLeBlanc thx seen it :)
09:47 FloLeBlanc path is 100 % correct Jig?
09:48 FloLeBlanc perhaps TS interpretes "file" in any case as function?
09:49 marc| page.includeCSS {
09:49 marc| file = fileadmin/template/main/include/produkte.css
09:49 marc| }
09:49 marc| y file1 instead of file
09:50 Jigal FloLeBlanc: path is 120% correct; a few lines above plugin.tx_kssitemap uses htmlTemplate = fileadmin/BMS/template/template_sk_mustread.html and that file lives right next to my css along with other css's (which are loaded!)
09:50 marc| try removing the 1 Jigal
09:50 FloLeBlanc marc: that's just a placeholder
09:50 FloLeBlanc he should be able to write cookiemonster there
09:51 Jigal I'll try different 'file'/'file1'/etc. maybe it gets overwritten elsewhere...
09:52 eeos hi everybody
09:52 marc| FloLeBlanc: ok didnt kno that, but the code i pasted works for sure
09:52 Jigal darn TS I really don't grok it :-(
09:52 jaf Can I restrict the flexibility of an RTE? Like only header 1 to 3?
09:53 marc| +w
09:53 FloLeBlanc jaf: short answer: yes I think so
09:53 jaf I am looking for the how to
09:53 jaf ;-)
09:53 FloLeBlanc jaf: long answer you'd have to check out the manual, don't know it by heart but it should have to do with code in your page TS (backend - page properties)
09:53 marc| ah didnt see your code paste ;)
09:54 koomi jaf: use page ts config to restrict what headers are shown, use lib.stdheader to change the actual headers
09:54 marc| Jigal: maybe it doesnt work because in the CSS path BMS is missing
09:54 jaf ok, as I am new to Typo, I hope I can find it
09:56 Jigal marc|: it is'nt missing !?
09:56 marc| wah
09:56 marc| too many paths in here ;)
09:56 marc| sorry
09:56 Jigal marc|: latest version: page.includeCSS.file = fileadmin/BMS/template/publist.css
09:56 bauschan Jigal: just to make sure
09:57 bauschan you set page = PAGE
09:57 bauschan in your +ext template
09:57 bauschan else your code won't work
09:58 Jigal bauschan: good one; it's on a site with a multi-crap-mess of nested framesets (I didn't do it, please don't hit me....)
09:58 bauschan bauschan lays back thinking about your offer
10:00 marc| Jigal: looks fine, so no idea
10:02 Jigal marc|, bauschan, FloLeBlanc: I used name of content fram instead of page. and now it works (stupid mistake); thanx for supplying extra brain power!
10:02 FloLeBlanc Jigal: yw
10:03 marc| Jigal: yw
10:04 bauschan Jigal: and again yw
10:04 FloLeBlanc anyone using: outlook express, web.de, lotus notes, gmx, eudora, pegasus mail?
10:05 bauschan FloLeBlanc: somewhere I guess I do have gmx ready
10:06 bauschan FloLeBlanc: yes, it's there :)
10:06 FloLeBlanc would like to send a testnewsletter only to see if the html is ok
10:06 Jigal FloLeBlanc: lotus notes is almost only used in a few larger companies...
10:06 FloLeBlanc Jigal: if someone can provide it, why not test it? :)
10:06 bauschan FloLeBlanc: ok
10:07 FloLeBlanc bauschan: query me with the adress plz
10:07 bauschan select from nickname
10:07 bauschan where at = at
10:07 bauschan and I guess you know the rest
10:08 FloLeBlanc actually I'm an irc noob :)
10:08 Jigal FloLeBlanc: if you keep the HTML old and simple (tables for layout, font tag for colours/size, inline CSS for added features which are not necessary) it'll work in mail clients; use alt text for images to show something when images are turned of by mail client;
10:09 FloLeBlanc think I did so, but wanted to make sure :)
10:09 FloLeBlanc gmail is very weird f.e.
10:10 m4rtijn im using web.de
10:11 Jigal FloLeBlanc: hotmail is also weird; most of them only show the inside of the body, remove links to style sheets and <style> tags;
10:11 FloLeBlanc brrr
10:12 neostar hello everyone
10:14 Jigal FloLeBlanc: how is your Dutch these days? I have a few extra documents about e-mail Newsletters, but they're in Dutch...
10:14 m4rtijn im dutch
10:15 Jigal m4rtijn: so am I, but FloLeBlanc isn't ;-)
10:16 m4rtijn ah, ok
10:16 eeos Jigal enoy your meal
10:16 FloLeBlanc Jigal: I think you gave them to me once :) have a good meal
10:16 bauschan Jigal: enjoy your meal
10:32 max_muetze Jigal: page.includeCSS.99 = fileadmin/css/eigenes/table.css worked for me... (typo4.1)
10:36 bauschan FloLeBlanc: the address I supplied was wrong :(
10:36 bauschan FloLeBlanc: pm
10:38 tasukram hi
10:39 FloLeBlanc bauschan: did so
10:40 bauschan FloLeBlanc: wait I have to reboot for what reason ever
10:42 bauschan re
10:43 FloLeBlanc re
10:45 Stasik hello
10:45 Stasik i`d like to hide sites from sitemap
10:45 Stasik is it possible?
10:46 Stasik alternative would be to use "not in menu" but then i`d like to make a menu to show that pages
10:48 Phlogiston_ I created a none admin BE user but when I log in as that user I can't see any page in the pagetree although I set some db mounts for the user and for the groups he is in. Whats wrong?
10:48 bauschan bauschan is off for lunch
10:49 FloLeBlanc enjoy your meal
10:51 Phlogiston_ where is that damn page tree =)
10:52 FloLeBlanc phlogiston: set the access rights
10:52 FloLeBlanc (menu point access in the left hand menu , select the group - set the rights)
10:56 Stasik how can i insert a timestamp using TScript field of a page
10:58 koomi Stasik: http://phpfi.com/223173
11:00 Stasik but i dont want to write it in template setup
11:00 Stasik i want just to have 1 page with the sitemap, but some pages excluded
11:00 Stasik so i want to use the TS Setup field of the page
11:03 Stasik no idea?
11:05 koomi no idea what you want to do :)
11:05 Stasik i want to exclude some pages from sitemap
11:05 Stasik i created sitemap in a usual way, but there are still some undesired pages
11:06 koomi but they should show up in your regular navigation?
11:07 Stasik yea
11:07 Stasik menu hide is impossible
11:08 koomi Stasik: are those single pages somewhere in the page tree or a whole branch of your tree?
11:08 koomi Stasik: because then you could create a sitemap using a regular hmenu ...
11:09 Stasik in the tree
11:09 Stasik i`d like to use it
11:09 Stasik and ehen excludepid list
11:09 Stasik but how
11:11 Jigal re
11:12 FloLeBlanc re
11:13 Phlogiston_ FloLeBlanc: How can I select the group when I am in the access module?
11:13 Jigal max_muetze: the "problem" was that the page was inside multiple nested framesets and that it wasn't called 'page', but 'content'; my lack of understanding of TS caused this stupid mistake ;-)
11:13 Phlogiston_ FloLeBlanc: ah now I can see... :) thanks
11:13 FloLeBlanc access - edit pencil beside the page you want to set...
11:13 FloLeBlanc ok :)
11:14 Stasik kommi? hmm?
11:14 max_muetze Jigal: ah, ok
11:15 Phlogiston_ FloLeBlanc: thanks a lot... I was like blind ;)
11:15 FloLeBlanc phlogiston_: yw
11:15 Phlogiston_ FloLeBlanc: yw?
11:15 FloLeBlanc you're welcome
11:16 Stasik i want to exclude some pages from sitemap, i created sitemap in a usual way, but there are still some undesired pages
11:18 FloLeBlanc have to go for other work :) have a nice evening all
11:18 m4rtijn cu flo
11:19 Phlogiston_ cu
11:20 Stasik i want to exclude some pages from sitemap, i created sitemap in a usual way, but there are still some undesired pages
11:22 max_muetze Stasik: which sitemap-plugin you are using? dropdownsitemap?
11:22 beev0r anyone using th_specialelements here?
11:22 Stasik standart
11:22 Stasik are there other plugins? where i can exclude stuff?
11:22 max_muetze Stasik: try this one - there you can exclude explicit pages
11:23 Stasik can i also make it look like normal sitemap?
11:23 max_muetze it is called dropdown_sitemap - search in the TER
11:25 Stasik No matching extensions found.
11:25 Stasik (
11:26 beev0r anyone using th_specialelements here?
11:28 max_muetze Stasik: it looks like this: http://www.typo3.christianeiselt.de/de/service/sitemap/ - try searching at http://typo3.org
11:28 Stasik got it
11:29 max_muetze ok
11:44 hypernav Goodafternoon. I have a question about TMENU_LAYERS. Can somebody help me?|
11:44 m4rtijn hi, dont ask to ask, just ask ;)
11:45 hypernav Oke, well I have installed the extension hypernav and I want the menu to begin on the second level
11:46 hypernav I know I should use entrylevel = 1
11:46 hypernav but I don't know how to put it in the extension
11:46 m4rtijn r u using TV or markers?
11:48 hypernav I assume that you mean with TV templavoila?
11:48 hypernav Cause if that's the case the answer is yes
11:50 m4rtijn hmm, i didnt use TV yet, and didnt use that hypernav extension either..
11:51 m4rtijn maybe if you paste your typoscript I'd be able to help
11:51 m4rtijn http://phpfi.com
11:51 bauschan re
11:51 hypernav Are you good in solving extensions? Because then I will show you the extension code
11:52 hypernav http://phpfi.com/223186
11:52 m4rtijn I work a lot with extensions yes
11:55 hypernav Did you see the note?
11:58 eeos enjoy your meal everybody
12:06 pulponair is there a way to set a tca field of type group to a default value via TSconfig?
12:07 hypernav Somebody know how to put an entrylevel in a extension
12:13 koomi i need some pointers to typography for webpages/style guides/etc - any hints?
12:14 bauschan pulponair: usually it's like TCEdefaults.tablename.fieldname = value
12:15 bauschan pulponair: but I'm not quite sure
12:16 pulponair bauschan: no wrong
12:20 bauschan pulponair: yes, because of a typo ;)
12:20 pulponair TCAdefaults
12:20 pulponair yes but its user specific
12:20 bauschan TCEdefaults =>TCAdefaults
12:21 pulponair i need a page specific way
12:23 bauschan pulponair: you're right, works only on the user level :(
12:25 koomi oh my. which calendar extension do you guys use?
12:25 pulponair bauschan: ok i will use a select field and PAGE_TSCONFIG_ID TCEFORM workaround
12:27 m4rtijn how can I change the layout of the standard mail form?
12:27 m4rtijn or do I have to use an extension for that
12:34 hypernav Can someone still help me with the entrylevel problem?? I still can't figure out how it should be coded
12:40 Boonkerz hi
12:40 Boonkerz anyone have an solution for the new sr_feuser_register
12:40 Boonkerz for edit data?
12:41 m4rtijn new?
12:42 m4rtijn im currently working with fe user reg extension
12:45 m4rtijn and dont have any problem with edit data
12:58 Jigal Fairly Off-topic: has anyone ever heard of a way to create an HTML link to a chapter inside an MS Word document?
12:58 eeos re
12:58 Jigal wb eeos
12:58 eeos Jigal hi
12:58 uschi_ no, but the answer to that question might be of interest, for pdf-documents as well, Jigal
12:59 zatmania RE eeos
13:00 Jigal uschi_: well, if you link to a xyz document your browser tries to load it embedded in the browser, so it might somehow be possible to define an anchor in an xyz document were the viewer will jump to... theoretically that is ;-)
13:00 m4rtijn jig, I know that if you make an index it uses some kind of anchor
13:01 m4rtijn afterwards you can jump to the chapter by CTRL+press the chapter link
13:01 m4rtijn and the links still works after conversion to PDF
13:01 Denyerec Hey guys
13:02 m4rtijn hi deny
13:02 Bastiaan_ Jigal, you mean with [crtl+k] or insert > hyperlink?
13:03 Jigal Bastiaan_: no I want to <a href="/docs/myworddocument.doc#chapter1">Read chapter 1</a>
13:03 Jigal brb
13:03 m4rtijn ah.. :p i thought a link in the word doc
13:04 Bastiaan_ I see, I guess there is no way then
13:05 m4rtijn does anyone know how I can change the layout of the default contact form ?
13:07 f0b1c hello... anyone know how to setup flag for default language for tv page in multilingual setup?
13:09 eeos IMPORTANT: on the newsgroup we are discussing if it would be the case to offer diff packages updates. Would you mind sying what you think?
13:10 eeos on typo3.emglish
13:11 Bastiaan_ no opinion
13:12 m4rtijn I dont understand whats the question
13:12 m4rtijn :p
13:12 max_muetze Hi Denyerec
13:13 max_muetze i have a question to you yet...
13:13 eeos m4rtijn: when we carry out updates to existing installtion we usually have to upgrade the entire typo3 source directory, right?
13:14 max_muetze i heard you're familar to tt_news and in my list view the posts are cutted after some chars... do you know where to set this number?
13:14 Denyerec Actually...
13:14 Jigal re
13:14 Denyerec Who told you?
13:14 eeos m4rtijn: the proposal is to distribute small diff patches so you only apply a very small diff patch to the typo3 source, without reinstalling it
13:14 Denyerec :)
13:14 max_muetze ;)
13:14 Denyerec Because I need to have words with whoever it was... :)
13:14 eeos m4rtijn: does it make sense?
13:14 eeos Denyerec: hi there
13:15 Denyerec max you can indeed crop after a certain number of characters
13:15 Denyerec I set this myself in Typoscript
13:15 Denyerec Though if you're configuring it as a page-inserted plugin you should see the option on one of the flexform pages.
13:15 Denyerec HOWEVER
13:15 Denyerec if you have any markup in your news post, the current CROP method will not honour it.
13:15 max_muetze hm, you can see the problem here: http://www.typo3.christianeiselt.de - the image left is the external link image
13:15 Denyerec That is, you may end up with <strong>THis is a news ar....
13:15 Denyerec and no closing tag
13:16 Denyerec so I had to write a userfunc to include to parse the tt_news crop markup and fix the tags
13:16 max_muetze yes i have such an option but it isn't set...
13:17 max_muetze yes i know what you mean... but thats not very nice..
13:18 max_muetze so i should give a teaser for every article...
13:18 max_muetze im at the beginning so that would be not that problem...
13:18 gerarddd morning all
13:20 uschi_ hi gerards :)
13:21 eeos gerarddd: hi there
13:21 gerarddd gerards? whos gerards? I'm gerarddd.
13:22 m4rtijn was afk, sorry.. yes it makes sense..
13:25 eeos m4rtijn: post some comment to the newsgroup if you approve the proposal :)
13:30 m4rtijn I think for typo3 experienced people it would be usefull, for beginners it should still be possible to obtain the update as a complete package
13:31 m4rtijn Its like with some linux OS's.. As beginner you want to do 2 clicks and let the OS update by itself.. As Novice or expert it could be usefull to be able to choose which modules you want to be up to date
13:35 m4rtijn why cant I edit entries in my "TS object browser" ?
13:35 m4rtijn it says: has been updated.. but nothing changes
13:36 eeos m4rtijn: yes, it was not exclusive (that is, the proposal is to make both systems available, not only one)
13:36 m4rtijn in that case: me like
13:36 Fanty anyone know if that "clear.gif" file the kickstarter places in the pi1/ folder is used for anything? I cant find any use of it in the files it creates
13:36 m4rtijn :)
13:37 eeos m4rtijn: :)
13:37 eeos Fanty: it is a separator I suppose
13:37 Fanty separating what?
13:38 eeos Fanty: well, search for the clear.gif in the code, I do not know, but this is what usually a clear.gif is for
13:39 Fanty eeos: thats it.. I cant find any references to clear.gif in the code
13:39 Fanty which is why I wonder why its there at all
13:40 eeos Fanty: wait
13:42 eeos Fanty: it is used in the t3lib class
13:42 eeos Fanty: just run a grep -iR 'clear.gif' on an entire installtion
13:44 eeos m4rtijn: what did you update?
13:44 eeos m4rtijn: to understand why your tsob does not work
13:45 m4rtijn mailform.stdwrap.wrap
13:45 eeos m4rtijn: mmmm do not know it
13:45 m4rtijn trying to chaneg the layout of the standard default contact mail thingie
13:46 m4rtijn tt_content.mailform
13:47 Fanty eeos: yes, it uses a "clear.gif" but not a "clear.gif" located as part of some extension
13:47 eeos m4rtijn: obviuously ou have cleared all chace after installing and you have runn all post - installation updates
13:48 eeos Fanty: I imagine is available for the extension to use if necessary
13:48 Fanty = /dev/null
13:48 Fanty :)
13:48 m4rtijn yes
13:49 eeos Fanty: I would not :p
13:50 eeos m4rtijn: try to log out of your browser an relog, is it not you broswer keeping it in cache because of some problem?
13:50 m4rtijn I did CTRL+F5 .. but i try
13:50 Fanty I'm making a bunch of extensions.. I don't want anything I don't know what does or what is used where .. I've deleted it now. If something starts to look funny I know why and how to fix it ;)
13:51 m4rtijn nope, its not the browser..
13:51 bauschan Fanty: if you assign your plugin the *textbox* type, kickstarter will reference the clear.gif
13:52 m4rtijn is there some configuration/setup setting which must be activated so I can change it maybe?
13:52 eeos m4rtijn: are you on 4.1?
13:52 m4rtijn nope, not yet
13:52 Fanty bauschan: assign my plugin the textbox type? as in I use a textbox in a TCEform?
13:53 eeos m4rtijn: one probelm with had is that we needed to clear the cache by hand. would you please try?
13:53 m4rtijn like in .. delete all tewmp. internet files?
13:54 bauschan Fanty: yes, also the Textbox Content Element is not very common
13:54 m4rtijn I used Firefox to check if it shows the same as IE.. so it cant be browser cache
13:56 eeos m4rtijn: in the typo3cof
13:56 eeos m4rtijn: in the typo3conf
13:58 f0b1c does anybody know how to setup flag icon of default language for templavoila Page module? e.g. for multilingual site with 3 languages I only see flag for language 2 & 3, but default language is without icon and is named as Default
13:58 eeos m4rtijn: do you know how to change the size of the thumbnail generated by tt_products?
14:00 m4rtijn yes eeos, in the constant editor
14:00 m4rtijn eeos: max image width, list display
14:01 eeos m4rtijn: have you tried with clearing the typo3conf?
14:04 floxx does anyone know, why "RTE.default.hidePStyleItems" doesn't work since htmlarea 1.5.1beta anymore?
14:04 floxx was is replaced by another command?
14:09 eeos m4rtijn: thanks! it works well!
14:10 m4rtijn yw :)
14:10 m4rtijn how do I clear the typo3conf cache manually?
14:11 tobi f0b1c: add this to your page tsconfig .. http://phpfi.com/223239
14:11 m4rtijn ah, found it... those files.. temp_cahced ?
14:11 f0b1c tobi: wow, tnx!!!
14:13 m4rtijn hmm.. I deleted those file eeos, but still cant edit those settings..
14:14 m4rtijn tobi, maybe you know.. Im trying to edit tt_content.mailform.stdwrap.wrap in the TS objectbrowser.. it says updated: "whatever I changed" but if I refresh it hasnt changed?
14:18 uschi_ hm, m4rtijn, you cleared the cache, as a good boy should do?
14:18 uschi_ and what do you mean: you changed it in the TS objectbrowser?
14:19 m4rtijn of course im a good boy ;)
14:20 eeos m4rtijn: I understood you could not see the TS object broser at all, not that you were trying to change the value within it!
14:21 eeos :D
14:21 m4rtijn hm, I clicked on wrap.. then it says: Edit object/property value: tt_content.mailform.20.stdWrap.wrap =
14:21 m4rtijn thats where I change it
14:21 eeos m4rtijn: yes thta it is how it should be afaik
14:23 uschi yes, and then you hopefully added a value?
14:23 eeos m4rtijn: intt_products, is there a way to ask the system to set a delivery price per item (.60) + a basic price for delivery (3.5)?
14:23 j0hndeere Good morning, earth humans.
14:23 tobi sorry i have no idea why this should not work m4rtijn
14:23 uschi if you want to unset the original value, it has to be:
14:24 uschi tt_content.mailform.20.stdWrap.wrap >
14:24 uschi tt_content.mailform.20.stdWrap.wrap = your wrap | here
14:24 m4rtijn hmm, I could do that in the SETUP fiel from info/modify
14:24 m4rtijn but in the object browser.. I should be able to just change the default value no?
14:25 uschi this is where your code from ts object browser has to go martin!
14:25 uschi no
14:25 uschi it is a lookup tool, not an editor
14:25 uschi this is why it is called browser :)
14:25 m4rtijn strangely enough it says: updated: " " and shows me what I changed
14:26 m4rtijn but I can do it in SETUP as well.. thx
14:26 uschi check the code that is in setup/info now!
14:26 uschi this is where the code produced by the browser belongs
14:26 eeos uschi: it should allow you to do that in setup mode in TS object browser
14:27 uschi there is a setup mode???
14:27 eeos uschi: at least, it works on mine
14:27 eeos uschi: yes, definitively. there is a drop down menu at the top, and you can select setup or constant
14:28 eeos uschi m4rtijn I think there is a problem with m4rtijn nstallation because on our sintallation it works properly, if you select setup mode in ts object browser
14:28 uschi yes, and then your code goes where???
14:29 eeos uschi: in current template, setup part of it
14:30 eeos uschi: of course, we prefer to use TS directly, but that does not mean you cannot do it
14:31 eeos m4rtijn: check if the value you modify though TS object browser (setup mode) is added to the template in the setup section
14:31 eeos m4rtijn: that would tell you if there is something that does not work
14:31 uschi eeos, i just realise that there are so many things to explore in t3 :)
14:31 eeos uschi: :)
14:34 eeos in tt_products, is there a way to ask the system to set a delivery price per item (.60) + a basic price for delivery (3.5)?
14:40 eeos uschi: there was a command to include external files in the setup section of the template. doy ou remember that command by any chance?
14:42 tobi eeos do you mean <INCLUDE_TYPOSCRIPT: source="FILE: fileadmin/templates/xyz.ts"> ?
14:42 uschi tobi, do you have a moment for me?
14:42 tobi yes i have uschi
14:42 uschi thx, query then :)
14:43 zatmania http://www.typo3-unleashed.net/nc/singleentry/date/2007/04/04/commerce-is-released.html
14:45 eeos tobi: thanks!
14:46 eeos zatmania: shall we celebrate?
14:46 eeos z
14:47 eeos zatmania: I thought also Franz was involved
14:49 zatmania :)
14:54 eeos tobi: as far as you know does the include works also for the constant section?
14:54 tobi yes works also for the constants eeos, also for page tsconfig only for user tsconfig i dont know
14:57 eeos ah thanks this is very interesting!
14:59 bauschan I have to leave, cu all !
14:59 eeos bauschan: bye!
15:00 eeos tobi: do you know tt_products at all? in tt_products, is there a way to ask the system to set a delivery price per item (.60) + a basic price for delivery (3.5)?
15:01 eeos tobi: cannot find anything in the documentation
15:01 eeos tobi: I have done some experiments, but unsuccesfull
15:01 tobi i never used tt_products eeos, sorry
15:03 eeos tobi: thanks in any case
15:05 eeos does anyone know if there is a way to ask the system to set a delivery price per item (.60) + a basic price for delivery (3.5) in tt_products? Denyerec
15:05 eeos ?
15:11 tobi eeos: you should have a look at calculationScript (http://typo3.org/documentation/document-library/extension-manuals/tt_products/2.5.2/view/1/6/)
15:11 pulponair huhu:commerce is public
15:22 eeos tobi: I am puzzled. I am using a local copy of the documentation, and this chapter is definitively not in. :(
15:25 eeos tobi: I downloaded the documentation not long ago (< 2 weeks).
15:27 tobi strange eeos, maybe a new one was released meanwhile
15:30 eeos tobi: it does not matter really, thanks
15:33 eeos pulponair: have you tested it?
15:33 pulponair not yet
15:36 eeos pulponair: tt_product is driving me a around the twist, even with the chapter tobi pointed me out.
15:36 eeos pulponair: do you have any experience?
15:37 pulponair eeos: busy
15:37 eeos pulponair: sorry
15:53 Denyerec eeos
15:53 Denyerec I've never even looked at tt_products, sorry :(
15:56 eeos Denyerec: I go a look at your blog, lik VERY MUCH the last entry
15:56 Denyerec hah :)
15:57 eeos Denyerec: it does not matter for tt_products
16:00 j0hndeere anybody know why TYPO3 refuses to align text center/right/etc
16:01 eeos j0hndeere: did you define the css classes?
16:05 j0hndeere Being unable to align a single line to the right without definine a css class is not cool
16:05 j0hndeere *defining
16:06 j0hndeere I presume I have to define a css class to underline text, too, because TYPO3 also ignores underlining
16:06 eeos j0hndeere: well, it is really the international w3c standard. this is what we do.
16:07 pulponair hahaha using localization in combination with workflow/versioning is the complet confusion overkill out of the abyss ...
16:07 j0hndeere we throw away the simplest functionality just to make everything standardized...
16:08 SerylCann why do you want to underline text?
16:08 j0hndeere LOL
16:08 j0hndeere because I can?
16:08 SerylCann that isn't a good reason
16:09 SerylCann probably to emphasize something, which should be done with the em-tag
16:09 j0hndeere personally, I don't think it really ought to be up to the programmers of a given program whether or not we should be allowed to underline
16:09 bedlamhotel j0hndeere: seems to me that there is an underline button in the RTE. Where is the problem?
16:09 SerylCann so you think the blink tag should be supported to?
16:10 j0hndeere bedlamhotel: The RTE discards the underlining upon saving
16:10 j0hndeere this is 3.8 on this site though
16:11 Denyerec john
16:11 Denyerec why would you want to underline text
16:11 Denyerec In the context of the internet
16:11 Denyerec if you can give me 1 good reason I can't dispute, then I'll conceed.
16:12 SerylCann that's probably a problem with the configuration of the RTE... it shouldn't be a problem (even though you still shouldn't use it)
16:13 j0hndeere because if the client is insistent upon wanting underline, I would really rather just give him underline than come back and explain that underlining is wrong
16:13 bedlamhotel j0hndeere: change the RTE's TSconfig to allow it then...the RTE ships with fairly reasonable defaults (i.e. close to w3c standards in case of allowable tags). No default configuration will please everyone, it's just your turn to be, um, displeased.
16:13 j0hndeere hehehe
16:13 j0hndeere point taken, bedlam
16:14 bedlamhotel j0hndeere: I've also had clients demand underlines. Telling them that users may get confused and think the underlined text is a link has /always/ dissuaded them...
16:15 j0hndeere lucky you ;)
16:15 j0hndeere anyhow, I have a new tactic
16:15 j0hndeere I call it 'tell the client it's impossible and call it a day because they don't know the difference'
16:16 SerylCann just because a client wants something doesn't mean he's right... and you are also paid to educate clients (at least that's how I see it)
16:16 bedlamhotel *LOL* That also works. As does telling them it will cost 2*($remaining_budget)...
16:16 j0hndeere I agree. But not all clients want to be educated :P
16:17 j0hndeere anyhow, thanks, guys
16:20 Denyerec john you are SO right about not all clients wanting to be educated :(
16:20 Denyerec on the internet, underlines are always links.
16:20 Denyerec BUT
16:20 Denyerec you could simply re-style <em> if you wish ?
16:20 Denyerec and swap the button icon
16:20 eeos Denyerec: j0hndeere can we not simply disappear into thin air after extracting the money?
16:20 Denyerec That way you maintain "semantic correctness"
16:20 j0hndeere sure
16:20 eeos :D
16:20 Denyerec and you shut up the client
16:20 Denyerec :)
16:20 Denyerec it's win win
16:25 eeos aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaargh, tt_products documentation refers to thing that do not exist at all
16:26 gerarddd hi is it possible (i'm not all that familiar with all the login extensions) to redirect a user, upon successful login, to a page depending on which user it is?
16:27 SerylCann I think there's an extension that redirects users depending on their usergroup, though I'm not sure what it's called
16:28 eeos gerarddd: stefan strasser was working on it, but do not know if he has finished the new version
16:28 gerarddd how may I contact him?
16:28 gerarddd I'd like to help.
16:28 gerarddd SerylCann: if you can give me a search term i'd be most grateful
16:28 eeos gerarddd: om
16:28 eeos gerarddd: *pm*
16:29 gerarddd oh wait.
16:29 gerarddd my nick is not registered...
16:30 SerylCann I can't find it... maybe I was wrong
16:32 gerarddd eeos: IM?
16:32 SerylCann nope, I'm not wrong... it's beko_improved_login
16:33 gerarddd dkd_redirect_at_login
16:33 Denyrereccc ¬_¬
16:34 gerarddd i can't log in as my registered nick!
16:34 eeos gerarddd: do you have skype?
16:34 gerarddd so i can't respond to private mesags.
16:34 gerarddd gerard_634
16:35 gerarddd but i found 2 extensions already.
16:35 gerarddd if they work well, like i want to, then I'll not need to write YEY ANOTHER login extension :)
16:36 gerarddd YALE.
16:38 eeos gerarddd stefan strasser is actually the maintainer of newloginbox so the ones you are talking about are the YALE
16:38 gerarddd yeah. they're all YALEs.
16:42 eeos gerarddd: stefan is trying to integrate everything in newloginbox
16:42 HAB_NE_FRAGE sers leute kann jemand deutsch?
16:42 gerarddd eeos that's perfect.
16:43 HAB_NE_FRAGE can anyone help me with vjchat???
16:48 eeos gerarddd: I asked you to add me on skype
16:50 HAB_NE_FRAGE can somebody help me?
16:57 HAB_NE_FRAGE hello?
16:59 eeos HAB_NE_FRAGE: do not anything about vjchat
17:00 HAB_NE_FRAGE why?
17:01 GymNTZ Hey? Ive got a problem, with installing imagemagick. can somebody plz help?
17:02 eeos HAB_NE_FRAGE: because I do not know anything about it :)
17:03 HAB_NE_FRAGE its a pitty :)
17:17 bruno67 hi all
17:18 bruno67 i'm having a hard time looking an extension o build a website in 3 diferent languages
17:18 bruno67 can somone give me some directions about that?
17:30 Denyrereccc bruno67
17:30 Denyrereccc there's an awesome 60 minute podcast on it
17:30 Denyrereccc on the t3 website
17:30 bruno67 cool thanks :)
17:31 Denyrereccc http://castor.t3o.punkt.de/files/podkast_julestue4-localization.m4v
17:32 bruno67 thanks again Denyrereccc :)
17:39 ndee hey ladies
17:58 HAB_NE_FRAGE can someone help me with vjchat?
18:03 neostar Denyrereccc: thanks for the tip, nice video
18:05 uschi hello folks :)
18:06 uschi bedlamhotel ?
18:06 uschi are you there?
18:14 Denyrereccc uschihas a typoscript problem...
18:14 Denyrereccc :)
18:14 Denyrereccc Or should I call you uschiiii
18:16 uschi no, no ts probs today, Denyerec (the c-looser)
18:16 Denyerec *sniff*
18:16 Denyerec it was gerarddd who started it
18:16 uschi yes, and all monkeys tend to imitate, right?
18:20 gerarddd my nick has been stolen....
18:21 neostar gerarddd: is your nick registered?
18:24 Denyerec Oook
18:24 Denyerec Oooooook
18:24 neonide it always sounds funny listening to my boss speak chinese to his friends on the phone
18:26 HAB_NE_FRAGE can someone help me with vjchat?
18:31 gerarddd hi neostar yes registered, but when i /nick gerards it tells me nickname already in use.
18:31 gerarddd HAB_NE_FRAGE: I guess no one here uses vjchat a lot.
18:31 gerarddd HAB_NE_FRAGE: is your problme specific to vjchat?
18:32 neonide ive never heard of it
18:32 neostar gerarddd: just /msg nickserv help
18:32 gerarddd its ok. if I come in as gerarddd, then Denyerec will not know who I am! bwaahaaahaa!
18:32 neostar gerarddd: use recover and then release
18:33 neostar gerarddd: then the nickserv will get your nick back
18:33 HAB_NE_FRAGE yes i cant install prototyp js
18:33 HAB_NE_FRAGE i have installed the extension but how must i activate it?
18:34 gerarddd does prototype come with the extension?
18:34 neostar gerarddd: /msg nickserv help recover
18:34 gerarddd if not you can always include it yourself.
18:34 neostar gerarddd: that should give you enough info
18:35 HAB_NE_FRAGE no but the mirror of the chat i read in a forum is, that it doesn´t goes in the internet explorer and i have to install prototyp but i dont know how :)
18:35 HAB_NE_FRAGE the extension is installed but it doesn´t work. Have i to put something in the template setup?
18:38 gerarddd HAB_NE_FRAGE: the extension says you need to install prototype?
18:38 HAB_NE_FRAGE no there is the problem that the extension dont work in Internet Explorer and i have to install the prototype extension that the vjchat extension also works in IE
18:41 gerards and you cannot install the prototype extension (code: prototypejs ) ?
18:41 gerards thanks neostar. I hope gerarddd didn't cause any trouble. I apologize for anything bad that he did...
18:41 neostar gerards: congratulations
18:42 bedlamhotel uschi: yes?
18:42 bedlamhotel [if you're still there]
18:42 gerards [global]
18:43 HAB_NE_FRAGE i have installed it but there is no function :)
18:43 HAB_NE_FRAGE its the same problem as before
18:44 uschi sorry, fon, bedlamhotel
18:46 bedlamhotel hello.
18:51 max_muetze can somebody tell me please where i can modify the settings for the javascript-menu on the left frame? i found no templates where i can change this setting...
18:52 max_muetze i mean "t3lib/jsfunc.menu.js"
18:54 max_muetze is here noone with an idea?
19:10 max_muetze can you evt. help me with this code: http://phpfi.com/223353? i think i have to edit the rootpageid, but i don't know where...
19:33 HAB_NE_FRAGE i have installed it but there is no function :)04
20:16 Denyerec Wow
20:16 Denyerec Commerce is out on the TER
20:17 Denyerec I've heared murmerings about this extension.
20:17 j0hndeere ohhhhhhhhhhh
20:17 smda oooh
20:18 voidus btw, today is day of web-programmer
20:18 voidus 4.04 Not Found
20:21 j0hndeere heheheh
20:41 ndee what is exactly fastcgi?
20:46 Ries ndee: it's faster then cgi ;)
20:47 |gawain| at least thats the intention.
20:56 ndee :D
20:56 Ries ndee: we have an answer to everything , isn't that cool??
20:56 ndee aaaaanyway, hey Ries, I got the performance from 4req/s to about 40req/s
20:56 ndee Ries: that's AWEsome :D
20:57 ndee only with a caching proxy
20:57 ndee but I'm sure it would work even better if I'd use a 2nd http server and I think I gonna do that
20:57 ndee have you seen the podcast about performance enhancments(no, not the blue pills)?
20:58 Ries ndee: any config to share?
20:59 ndee Ries: yep, do you have mod_proxy already running?
20:59 Ries ndee: I do...
20:59 ndee I gonna pm it to you
20:59 Ries thanks dude
20:59 ndee /msg Ries ProxyRequests off
20:59 ndee ProxyPass / http://www.suzuki-automobile.ch/
20:59 ndee ProxyPassReverse / http://www.suzuki-automobile.ch/
20:59 ndee oops
20:59 ndee :D
20:59 Ries yup.. that will work :)
20:59 ndee how can I get a stupid whisper window in mirc? :D
21:00 ndee you have to answer to my test
21:00 ndee :D
21:12 ndee andreasbalzer: are you here? :D
22:53 neostar hi Denyerec, bedlamhotel, gerards, Ries, uschi, voidus
22:55 voidus hm.. hi * from europe,north_america inner join south_america on panama where channel like %typo3% and net = 'freenode'..
22:56 voidus :)
22:57 Ries Hey neo
22:57 Ries Hey voidus
22:57 Ries voidus: No answer yet to my skype request
22:57 Ries does he turn it on?
22:57 voidus Ries: yes. he saw that you added him
22:58 voidus maybe you just online at different time
22:58 Ries Who knows...

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