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00:09 tansta good morning :)
00:10 tansta with Text menu, am i able to define my own font ?
00:27 klassica hi all
01:17 Denyerec Hmm
01:17 Denyerec Trying to make a FCE where the title of the FCE becomes the id of it's container, but with underscores.
01:17 Denyerec EG
01:17 Denyerec if I make the title: United Kingdom
01:17 Denyerec then one of the attributes will be <div id="sz_united_kingdom">
01:28 Denyerec Ries?
01:28 Denyerec gerards ?
01:36 Ries den?
01:58 tansta has anyone try commerce yet ?
01:58 tansta or is there documentation somewhere ? :)
03:17 Ries tansta: it's not production ready IMHO
04:29 tansta Ries: what's IMHO ?
04:29 tansta :)
04:29 tansta sorry not very good with acronym
05:52 dax77 good morning #typo3
05:54 kermit_green morning :-)
06:08 tansta morning guys, :)
06:09 tansta quick question: if a server doesn't have image magick install but only GDLib, is TYPO3 still able to resize an image ?
06:10 koomi first guess would be no
06:11 koomi i always thought gdlib is for gif/gmenu creation
06:11 tansta DOH! :(
06:11 tansta koomi: you're probably right :) i got a server who dont have IM install and so i can only upload the image as it is
06:11 tansta cannot resize or do anything with it :)
06:11 koomi sucks
06:13 zatmania hi all
06:18 tansta hi zat
06:36 Jigal hi @ll
06:38 zatmania hi Jigal
07:08 bauschan hi @ all !
07:14 Jigal hi bauschan
07:16 zatmania hi bauschan
07:20 bauschan he ho Jigal, zatmania almost ready for the weekend ?
07:23 Jigal ...after I've put a load of content online today I guess I am...
07:25 bauschan me too?
07:25 bauschan but first I start with
07:25 bauschan http://www.happiness-project.com/happiness_project/2007/04/seven_tips_for_.html
07:25 bauschan point 4
07:27 koomi hrhr. i just want to grrl
07:27 koomi a cleaner desk == a cleaner mind
07:27 koomi i never understood the simplicity in that statement. sometimes i need a messy pile :)
07:29 tansta how do i completely remove an extension ?
07:29 tansta or
07:29 tansta does anyone know what this error mean ?
07:29 tansta Warning: require_once(PATH_BE_tablelib/class.tx_table_db.php) [function.require-once]: failed to open stream: No such file or directory in e:\inetpub\vs142056\home\typo3conf\ext\tt_products\pi1\class.tx_ttproducts_pi1.php on line 55
08:16 delmonico erm... RTE not longer loading?! what could be the reason? stops when it says "RTE is being loaded"
08:17 fummeltrine this is a latest firefox <-> rte issue
08:17 delmonico ah I see
08:18 delmonico fixed in new version. man I hate firefox
08:18 delmonico doesnt work at all in konqueror though *heh*
08:18 fummeltrine fixed new t3 version
08:20 koomi_ http://www.fh-mainz.de did they do the whole page as tt_news articles?
08:21 delmonico can I set anchors in the RTE? I have a long table with four sections and want to link to these sections from another page
08:22 delmonico koomi_: lol its ugly o_O
08:22 delmonico <-- FH munich, no typo3, crappy site, but not as ugly ;)
08:23 Jigal delmonico: this had nothing to do with firefox whatsoever! The detection of supported features is done in the standard RTE by detecting the browser type and version of various features. This is generally speaking the wrong approach. There was a bug in one of the version checks which looked for a version "1.3" and also matched with version "x.x.1.3". New version of the RTE simply contains a fix for this specific check.
08:23 delmonico okay so mozilla guys are not guilty for once ;)
08:24 delmonico sorry for the flaming, just generally dislike the hyped firefox thingie ;)
08:24 koomi_ delmonico: but they've got a nice concept
08:25 koomi_ and did some really nice extensions: http://www.fh-mainz.de/index.php?id=suche&E=1&lastArticle=9102&tx_indexedsearch[sword]=typo3&cHash=e00fbc3378#9102
08:26 delmonico thats cool of course
08:26 delmonico you study there?
08:27 koomi_ delmonico: nope.
08:27 koomi_ relaunching our website soon, and i was looking for some inspiration, hints, etc http://www.wiso.uni-hamburg.de/index.php?id=589
08:29 koomi and i like the way the list the links at the bottom of the page
08:29 koomi in case you missed one you can simply check the bottom of the page
08:29 delmonico gotta run, meeting
08:29 delmonico later
09:04 m4rtijn hello all
09:05 bauschan hi m4rtijn !
09:12 Phlogiston_ hello guys, I'm new to typo3 development and want to extend the cwt_community_user extension with another value, now there is this array with colums I want to add and the function t3lib_extMgm::addTCAcolumns(...)
09:12 Phlogiston_ in the array I give as an argument to that function there is an entry called type which sets the type of the field right? where can I look up all the available types? In my case I need a text field
09:16 bauschan Phlogiston_: http://typo3.org/documentation/document-library/core-documentation/doc_core_api/4.0.0/view/4/2/#id2813356
09:16 bauschan and the following sections
09:17 Phlogiston_ bauschan: thanks a lot, I hope i'm on the correct way ;)
09:33 koomi i need some pointer to the tsfe object - what properties are accessible in typoscript ...
09:38 eeos hi everybody
09:39 koomi hey eeos
09:39 bauschan koomi: debug($GLOBALS['TSFE'])
09:40 eeos koomi: hi
09:41 koomi bauschan: there should be some kind of reference for tsfe in typoscript, shouldn't it?
09:41 koomi bauschan: never wrote an extension
09:41 Denyerec Mornin
09:41 koomi moin Denyerec
09:41 eeos Denyerec: hi there
09:42 bauschan koomi: AFAIK there isn't :(
09:42 bauschan hi eeos, Denyerec
09:42 koomi sucks. why isn't there some kind of documentation
09:43 eeos bauschan: hi
09:45 SmaxTheFrog_ hi using the kickstarter is there an option to create a default input form for frontend users or do i have to create it manually ?
09:46 smda hi @all!
09:48 zatmania hi SmaxTheFrog_
09:48 zatmania hi smda
09:52 SmaxTheFrog_ hi zatmania
09:52 SmaxTheFrog_ nayone an idea ?
09:53 SmaxTheFrog_ anyone
09:53 fummeltrine there is none
09:53 SmaxTheFrog_ oh
09:53 zatmania must creta manually
09:53 zatmania or you can use wizard form in BE
09:54 SmaxTheFrog_ ok thx
09:54 fummeltrine the kickstarter produces your db-thingies and your be-masks an such
09:54 Jigal I think that most here are quite busy at the moment or temporarily elsewhere :-(
09:54 alexwx hello friends, i have to change max_size in TCA for one extension, how or where i can to change it? thnak you
09:54 fummeltrine but it will not code your fe-ext
09:54 zatmania alexwx tca.php
09:55 zatmania in the folder of the ext
09:55 Phlogiston_ bauschan: yeah I like typo3: it works ;)
09:55 fummeltrine there will just be a default fe class, everything else is up to you
09:55 bauschan Phlogiston_: at least most of the time ;)
09:55 Phlogiston_ bauschan: yes thats true ;)
09:56 alexwx zatmania aaa i seee. thank you
09:56 zatmania no prb
09:56 uschi good morning, good day, good evening folks :)
09:56 Phlogiston_ good day here uschi
09:56 smda good day uschi
09:57 uschi here too, but is still feel morningly, Phlogiston_ :)
09:57 uschi morning smda, hello voidus
09:57 voidus hi uschi :)
09:57 uschi morning zatmania
09:58 Jigal good <enter time period of your choice>, <enter your name> ! :-)
09:58 Phlogiston_ can I use the plugin.bla{option1= option2=} syntax in Constant settings?
09:58 uschi morning Jigal *g*
09:58 smda Jigal : thanks and a <enter time period of your choice> to you to
09:59 voidus Phlogiston_: yes
10:00 Phlogiston_ voidus: cool thanks
10:04 dokma hi peeps
10:04 dokma question
10:04 Jigal hi peep
10:05 dokma I can't find a way to change default header wrap from h1 to something else for css styled content
10:05 dokma I was just digging in the object browser
10:05 dokma under lib.stdheader
10:07 dokma can anyone tell me where is the setting?
10:08 fummeltrine lib.stdheader.10.x.fontTag (i think)
10:09 fummeltrine this should be the header-wrap (untested)
10:09 dokma anyone?
10:11 delmonico is sourceforge down (again)? http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/typo3/typo3_src-4.1.1.tar.gz?download
10:11 delmonico ah now its working
10:11 dokma still having trouble
10:11 dokma anyone?
10:12 dokma the question is how to change h1 wrap for content elemets
10:12 dokma I'm using csc
10:12 dokma is it in lib.stdheader?
10:12 dokma thats where I've been looking
10:13 fummeltrine dokma, lib.stdheader.10.1.fontTag
10:13 delmonico ah fsck sourceforge :(
10:13 dokma fummeltrine is that going to change only the header wrap for content elements?
10:14 dokma i have some feel that is a bit more global setting
10:14 fummeltrine yep
10:14 fummeltrine lib.stdheader.10.1.fontTag = <h2{register:headerStyle}{register:headerClass}>|</h2> this changes h1 wrap to h2
10:15 fummeltrine for type "normal" of field header
10:20 pulponair hi there
10:24 koomi dokma: typo3/sysext/css_styled_content/static/setup.txt
10:25 koomi pulponair: how come?
10:25 pulponair koomi: dont know spend the whole night airing my belly
10:25 dokma thank you koomi
10:25 dokma I'll check that one out right away
10:26 dokma my customer is waiting so I'm in a bit of a hurry
10:27 dokma this is the code for the csc koomi
10:27 dokma it is the same thing I see in object browser
10:28 dokma what I cannot find is where is it stated 'use h1 tag to wrap content element headers'
10:28 dokma and I want it to state 'use h3 tag for content element headers'
10:29 fummeltrine again dokma ... this is defined in lib.stdheader.10. this is the header processing. search for h1 in the objectbrowser and you will see
10:30 dokma yes I found it
10:31 dokma I just read that is the default layout applied to new content elemets
10:31 dokma I'll go and change that and see what happens
10:31 dokma what I expect is for all old and new content elements h1 to change to h3
10:32 Denyerec Anyone here use Aptana
10:32 Denyerec ?
10:32 dokma It works just nice
10:33 dokma thank you all :)
10:33 fummeltrine np
10:43 Denyerec Need a TV/ FCE guru type :)
10:43 Denyerec I want to be able to take the text from the header of an FCE, and insert it as the id in the FCE's containing div.
10:43 Denyerec Any offers?
10:48 pulponair Denyerec: i know
10:48 pulponair denyerec: what tv version?
10:48 Denyerec the latest one ?
10:48 Denyerec Or at least, something pretty recent.
10:49 uschi hey pulponair and Denyerec :)
10:49 Denyerec hey uschi
10:49 uschi 1.3.0 that is?
10:49 tobi simple .. map the id as attribute and add to the typoscript tag 10=TEXT, 10.field=fild_header ..
10:49 pulponair Denyerec: ok fyi: tv until version x hasnt access to data of the surrounding ce...but with 1.3.0 you are fine ...wait i ll post a sample
10:50 pulponair Denyerec: http://www.chaosbutze.de/en/code-snippets/detail/select/ts_innerhalb_von_tv/article/34/zugriff-auf-contentelement-felder-aus-fces.html
10:50 pulponair Denyerec: note the update section
10:51 pulponair tobi: wrong ;)
10:52 tobi yes my sample works only if the header is inside the fce
10:52 Denyerec excellent
10:52 tobi register:tx_templavoila_pi1.parentRec.header should also be filled
10:52 Denyerec when I finally figure out this blasted MooTools, I'll put it to use
10:53 pulponair uschi:huhu
10:53 Phlogiston_ anyone knows if there is a search function for cwt_community, that lets search users?
10:53 pulponair cwt sucks ;)
10:54 Phlogiston_ why do you think? i need cwt :-p
10:54 pulponair Phlogiston_: ugly code
10:55 Phlogiston_ I can find a search mode in the source code but can't choose it anywhere ^^
10:55 Phlogiston_ pulponair: anything better available? .-p
10:55 pulponair Phlogiston_: unfortunatly not :|
10:56 dokma quick trivia for u guys
10:56 dokma whats the diff between magic image and plain image
10:56 Phlogiston_ hmm there is even a template called search
10:57 pulponair dokma: plain isnt copied over to uploads
10:57 dokma I see
10:57 pulponair dokma: while magic is drag an drop and copied over to uploads
10:57 dokma I can't figure out how to get 'click to enlarge' behaviour
10:57 dokma thank you
10:57 dokma I understand
10:58 pulponair dokma: imho you have to enable it in extconf i.e. the extension manager but i do not know for sure
10:58 dokma you mean for htmlarea?
10:58 dokma I've just been there
10:58 dokma haven't seen that
10:58 dokma will check again
10:58 pulponair dokma: wait i am going to look it up
10:59 dokma I just checked it
10:59 dokma you don't need to
10:59 dokma that's my job
10:59 dokma just tell me where
11:00 dokma and I'll do it
11:00 dokma dont wanna be lazy
11:01 profmakx Jäzz!
11:01 pulponair dokma:## # cat=basic/enable; type=boolean; label=EXPERIMENTAL! Enable click-enlarge on images: This feature is EXPERIMENTAL. If set, a click-enlarge property may be set on images inserted in the RTE.
11:01 pulponair ##enableClickEnlarge = 0
11:01 pulponair dokma: seems to be disabled in extconf
11:02 dokma roger that
11:02 dokma will grep my folders
11:03 pulponair dokma: uncomment it in ext_conf_template.txt and see if it works ..afterwards you should be able to enable it using the extensino mgr
11:03 dokma hmmm
11:03 dokma funny
11:04 dokma ahhh
11:04 dokma i've found it
11:04 pulponair dokma: but note it is marked as experimental
11:04 dokma however
11:04 dokma ./typo3_src-4.0.2/typo3/sysext/indexed_search/ext_conf_template.txt./typo3_src-4.0.2/typo3/sysext/css_styled_content/ext_conf_template.txt./typo3_src-4.0.2/typo3/sysext/rtehtmlarea/ext_conf_template.txt
11:04 dokma oops
11:04 dokma there are 3 versions
11:04 pulponair dokma: yes sysext
11:04 dokma copy that
11:04 dokma thank you
11:04 pulponair dokma: every extension ships with its own ext_conf_template.txt
11:04 pulponair dokma: this file is used to generate the extension specific extmgr config menu
11:05 Denyerec dajhUIOfyhuigkhnkgjudjkg
11:05 Denyerec arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrGHHHHH
11:05 Denyerec BLOODY IDE'S
11:05 Denyerec THAT BLOODY INSERT SHIT FOR YOUY
11:05 pulponair dokma: btw you should update your t3 4.0.2 contains serverall known vulnerabilities
11:05 Denyerec Oh man.
11:06 Denyerec I *HATE* editors that thing adding extra brackets and quotes is a neat feature
11:06 dokma good you mentioned it
11:06 pulponair Denyerec: hehe
11:06 Denyerec Which retard cannot enter their own goddamn brackets afterall ?
11:06 Denyerec It's madness
11:06 dokma can I update only my typo3 sources by simply replacing the typo3 source folder?
11:06 pulponair dokma: yes but you have to run updatewizard and compare/db afterwards
11:06 Denyerec if you have: function($param){} and go to edit the param, you can end up with function()($param){} before you know it
11:07 dokma I see
11:07 dokma so the packages remain at 4.0.2
11:08 dokma while the sources get upgraded
11:08 dokma this is fine?
11:08 pulponair packages?
11:08 pulponair extensions?
11:08 dokma the content of dummy_4.0.2.tgz
11:08 pulponair did you mean extennsions?
11:09 pulponair dokma: ah yes, but there is nothing but links and dir struktur within the dummy package ...you may need to upgrade it if you upgrade to 4.1
11:09 dokma I've setup my server so that I have a single copy of typo3 source
11:09 pulponair dokma: same over here
11:09 dokma but my package folders are full of modifications such as uploaded files, templaets etc.
11:09 dokma how do you modify that
11:10 pulponair dokma: just keep them
11:10 pulponair dokma: just update you source
11:10 pulponair your i meant
11:10 dokma I understand
11:10 pulponair dokma: it is quite straight forward
11:10 dokma I always thought package files contain some php files
11:11 pulponair dokma: no they dont
11:11 dokma didn't dig into it deep enough
11:11 dokma I see
11:11 dokma where do the extensions get slamed in?
11:11 dokma if they are in the sources folder
11:11 pulponair dokma: typo3conf/ext/
11:11 dokma theyll get deleted when I update
11:11 pulponair dokma: local extensions wont
11:12 dokma ahhh they end up in the dummy folder structure right?
11:12 pulponair dokma: but system wide wont (which isnt a problem normally since they just get updated - like htmlarea)
11:12 dokma yes the sys exts are in the sources structure
11:12 dokma so they get updated
11:12 pulponair dokma: try to geht familiar with the t3 directory layout :)
11:12 pulponair dokma: yes
11:12 dokma I read it a long time ago
11:13 dokma there is a doc about the layout
11:13 dokma but then I had a very fuzzy image about the whle thing
11:13 dokma so it evaporated
11:13 dokma I'll need to reread it
11:13 pulponair dokma: yes anyway its quite easy
11:13 dokma will update my gray cells
11:14 dokma gotta run to lunch now
11:14 dokma we got a few new clients and it's getting tight on the schedule
11:14 pulponair dokma: BAU
11:14 Denyerec From TS how would I hide all images in the page's content elements?
11:15 Denyerec just unset tt_content.image ?
11:15 pulponair Denyerec: i would guess so
11:16 dokma BAU?
11:16 dokma funny though
11:16 dokma when I do grep -ir 'enableClickEnlarge' *
11:16 pulponair dokma: business as usuall
11:16 dokma in my htdocs folder
11:16 dokma nothing comes up
11:16 dokma enableClickEnlarge is not metioned nowhere in my htdocs
11:17 pulponair dokma: sure since your html area is installed globally
11:17 pulponair dokma: so it is located within the source
11:17 dokma I've greped the sources also
11:17 pulponair ..sysext
11:17 dokma I checked the ext conf file manually and it did not mention that setting
11:17 koomi dokma: find . -type f -exec grep enableClick {} \;
11:18 koomi or is grep recursive?
11:18 dokma grep -ir enableClick *
11:18 pulponair dokma: hmm perhaps htmlarea shipping with 4.0.2 doenst know this setting yet
11:18 dokma this one shows a bunch
11:18 dokma but I must run now
11:18 dokma my roomie is eager to get to my computer
11:19 pulponair hurry up dude
11:19 dokma he's using it while I eat
11:19 pulponair hihi
11:19 dokma heh :)
11:19 dokma I'm off
11:19 pulponair so you are eighter a really fat guy or he doenst need your computer often
11:19 pulponair :)
11:21 Denyerec just unset tt_content.image.20.1 actually
11:21 Denyerec In case you were wondering
11:28 eeos anyone has tested the new commere extension?
11:32 eeos when you try to dowload it manually, it says extension not found
11:32 eeos http://typo3.org/extensions/repository/view/commerce/0.9.0/
11:33 eeos very strange
11:33 smda eeos: strange. I looked at it yesterday
11:34 eeos smda: get a look now
11:35 smda eeos: I got a great look :)
11:36 smda eeos: sry. still not found.. ?
11:38 eeos "Extension commerce not found!" smda
11:38 eeos smda: could you see it now?
11:42 smda eeos: yes I see that.
11:42 smda I saw it as well. But yesterday it was fine
11:46 eeos :?
11:47 eeos smda: do you know tt_products a bit?
11:47 smda used it, but over two years now.. so I don't remember much I'm afraid
11:49 Denyerec Commerce just came out didn'tit ?
11:49 Denyerec didn't see the manual for it though
11:51 eeos Denyerec: actually, ow the maual is there, but the extension is not there anymore :D
11:53 tobi strange thing with commerce. anyway, you can allways find it here: http://typo3xdev.sourceforge.net/
11:55 eeos tobi: oh mine! what is this list?
11:55 eeos tobi: o you need all of that for commerce?
11:57 tobi no eeos, that are just all the extensions hosted on sourceforge
11:58 Jigal the RTE (tinyRTE) leaves '<' characters that were typed in as they are (not converted to &lt; for example) and this will conflict with other, real tags which are present in the stored data. Any ideas???
12:02 eeos tobi: thanks
12:20 yo_brother hiho
12:20 Jigal Yo! Brothah!
12:20 fummeltrine is there a way to combine the std mailform with a captcha?
12:20 tobi yes there is a extension fummeltrine
12:22 tobi fummeltrine: http://typo3.org/extensions/repository/view/nd_antispam/1.0.1/
12:22 fummeltrine nice. happy thx
12:23 m4rtijn does it happen often? that these forms are used for spam?
12:24 m4rtijn ah, I guess its not the form.. but a crawler which identifies the underlying email account..
12:25 m4rtijn arg.. just forget everything I wrote ;)
12:26 fummeltrine no, the mailforms are actually used for spamming
12:27 fummeltrine the dest. addy is not in the html-source. but we have customers who receive spams through t3 mailforms
12:28 m4rtijn damn spammers :p
12:28 m4rtijn nothing is to low for them
12:28 fummeltrine eg. the usual "contact us and tell us your problems" t3-forms
12:40 fummeltrine nd_antispam sucks ... know i have a captcha in all forms. eg. in my search forms also
12:40 fummeltrine s/know/now
12:51 fummeltrine this should be configurable for forms if a captcha is displayed. and it must not be implemented as a xclass but a core patch ... grml .. does somebody have some spare time? *g*
13:02 Denyerec Man
13:02 Denyerec sometimes I just love Typo3
13:15 pulponair BACK
13:17 just2b hello, someone there?
13:18 max_muetze hello
13:20 helli_t3w Anybody an idea how to enable talbe
13:20 helli_t3w table classes in htmlarea?
13:22 gerards morning everyone
13:22 koomi helli_t3w: proably http://lists.netfielders.de/pipermail/typo3-project-rte/2006-January/000089.html & http://lists.netfielders.de/pipermail/typo3-english/2006-November/033098.html
13:24 helli_t3w i have the problem that the selectbox where you select the class for the table is disabled
13:24 helli_t3w and i don't know why
13:25 max_muetze is it possible to change the uid of an element? i.e. a sysfolder?
13:25 koomi helli_t3w: did you add the class to the rte config (in your page ts)
13:25 koomi helli_t3w: rte configuration can be a pita - browser cache is hell.
13:26 helli_t3w yes i did
13:26 koomi helli_t3w: does it work for other elements? like paragraph or span?
13:26 koomi did you include custom css?
13:26 helli_t3w yes
13:26 koomi did you check tag free classes?
13:27 helli_t3w in the css i have table.myclass <- does not show up
13:27 koomi there's so fricking much that can go wrong :)
13:27 helli_t3w if i change it to tbody.myclass
13:27 helli_t3w then it shows in the selectbox for tbody
13:27 koomi datenwolken.de had a good rte config tut iirc
13:28 elbart hi
13:29 beev0r can i access get parameters in typoscript conditions?
13:29 koomi beev0r: GPVar or something. check tsref
13:29 beev0r [globalVar $_GET['foo']!=''] something like that
13:29 beev0r ok i'll see
13:30 Phlogiston_ whats the best extension for fe_users to update their profile (including ability to upload a picture)?
13:31 koomi Phlogiston_: don't know about the picture upload, but sr_feuser_registration works pretty good
13:31 Phlogiston_ it sucks like hell that cwt_community uses its own image field... I can't understand why.. .:(
13:32 beev0r [globalVar = GP:print > 0]
13:32 beev0r and how do i look if $_GET['foo'] is set? [globalVar = GP:foo != ''] ?
13:32 beev0r i guess this won't work
13:32 koomi why not?
13:33 helli_t3w [globalVar = GP:foo != ]
13:33 helli_t3w should do the job
13:33 beev0r ok. i'll try
13:34 helli_t3w I hate htmlArea
13:34 koomi it's this love & hate thing that makes typo3 so attractive
13:34 koomi go plone and you'd just be bored
13:35 beev0r seems not to work
13:35 beev0r or is it wrong: [globalVar = TSFE:id=17] && [globalVar = GP:artnr != ] ?
13:36 koomi does it work with an article number?
13:36 helli_t3w i love typoscript and the rest
13:36 Ries beev0r: Use else
13:36 gerards no && in typoscript i think.
13:36 koomi aint it [condition1][condition2]
13:37 gerards koomi i think that's OR.... am i wrong?
13:37 gerards for AND you put it on 2 lines.
13:37 koomi http://typo3.org/documentation/document-library/references/doc_core_tsref/4.0.0/view/4/1/
13:37 koomi This matches with all 4+ browsers and netscape 3 browsers
13:37 koomi [version= >4][browser= netscape3]
13:38 helli_t3w now it works, stupid me it there was a typo in classname
13:38 koomi hrhr helli_t3w
13:38 gerards koomi: thanks i was wrong. :)
14:01 max_muetze i need a little help: when i am in the template-module->rootpage->constant editor i have several categories to choose. where is the source of these categories? because one disappeard and i have to put her on the right place...
14:09 eeos hi everybody
14:10 bauschan max_muetze: constants.txt of the corresponding ext
14:10 bauschan hi eeos
14:10 max_muetze bauschan: thanks, but it is no ext... it is a template file
14:13 max_muetze bauschan: it seems to be in the database... could this be?
14:13 bauschan max_muetze: you're in Constants Editor looking at the categories , right ?
14:14 max_muetze yes, right.. i had there a category "YAML (31)"
14:14 max_muetze and then i deleted a folder... and now it dissapeared...
14:14 max_muetze a sysfolder
14:14 max_muetze not in the filesystem
14:15 bauschan i didn't work with YAML yet, sorry
14:15 max_muetze hm, ok but thanks
14:17 tobi max_muetze: probably YAML had some typoscript templates in the sysfolder you deleted
14:18 max_muetze i think it only could refer to this sysfolder... because i moved all contents into another sysfolder
14:19 eeos bauschan: good afternoon
14:19 max_muetze how can i search for a specific UID in phpmyadmin? is it possible to find the uid of the sysfolder?
14:21 tobi max_muetze: just install the recycler extension and you can undelete everything (also recursive) without phpmyadmin
14:22 bauschan eeos: good afternoon, any news on the *patch* disscusion?
14:22 bauschan haven't read the list today
14:22 eeos bauschan: qhich patch?
14:22 eeos bauschan: ah! the diff patch?
14:22 bauschan yup :)))
14:23 eeos bauschan: no. but I have the idea that if we distribute the diff patch, we could implement a BE module for automatic updates
14:23 max_muetze tobi: ah thanks, i'll do... can you tell me in advance - i think i found the referees: the ext-ts-templates are referred to normally but my aren't.. i don't think there is an easy way to make the referees again, right?
14:23 eeos bauschan: that would solve all the problems. I want to look into it. what do you think?
14:23 dokma hi all
14:24 dokma q: how do I get the click enlarge for images in htmlarea?
14:24 dokma my t3 is 4.0.2
14:25 bauschan eeos: sounds promising, sorry phone
14:25 dokma I've seen people talking about it in the mailing lists
14:25 dokma but I don't see anywhere how it's done
14:27 dokma anyone?
14:27 tobi max_muetze: i dontuse yaml but i think you could just change the includes to your new folder ..
14:28 max_muetze tobi: sorry for asking so much.. where should i change them? in the main template record?
14:29 tobi max_muetze i think so but its a blind guess since i dont know yaml, i prefer making my own templates so at least i know whats going on ..
14:30 max_muetze tobi: thank you very much! i got it working! it was the right place... and so easy.. :/ but you have to know it first... ;) thanks
14:31 Denyerec dokma
14:32 Denyerec do yu have to insert images via the RTE ?
14:34 Phlogiston_ its in standard typo3 that a FE user has an image "field" right?
14:34 Denyerec I think so.
14:35 Phlogiston_ so why the hell does cwt not use it? I hacked the extension and now it uses that field... I will probably update it... not sure how exactly, haven't done that before
14:35 tobi cwt* is not really good written.
14:35 tobi i used it too and endet up rewriting big parts ..
14:39 Denyerec what's cwt
14:48 eeos tobi: what is cwt
14:48 gerards cwt is the community extension.
14:48 gerards cwt_* a bunch of community extensions.
14:50 eeos gerards: Denyerec community extensions? like a large veranda for big parties?
14:50 eeos :S
14:50 eeos :D
14:50 Denyerec hehe
14:50 gerards that's a well designed extension...
14:50 Denyerec what kinda thing do they provide?
14:51 gerards er...
14:51 Denyerec http://typo3.org/documentation/document-library/extension-manuals/commerce/0.9.0/view/
14:51 Denyerec Not good.
14:51 gerards i only use the inter-user message system.
14:51 eeos Denyerec: what is not good?
14:51 Denyerec Err
14:51 gerards Denyerec: i didn't really use other parts of cwt_community
14:51 Denyerec DB error ?
14:51 gerards Denyerec: no db error.
14:51 Denyerec heh
14:52 Denyerec browser cache
14:52 Denyerec ¬_¬
14:53 eeos Denyerec: http://typo3.org/extensions/repository/view/commerce/0.9.0/info/
14:53 Denyerec ROFL
14:53 Denyerec 1.6. To-Do list
14:53 Denyerec Add some more documentation
14:53 Denyerec No shit
14:54 gerards can anyone recommend a good DOM browser for FF?
14:54 gerards like the netscape DOM tree browser?
14:55 koomi gerards: firebug - it's not strictly dom but a hell of an extension
14:55 gerards i have that. its a great extension.
14:55 gerards but i want something like the netscape one.
14:55 eeos gerards: if you install the web developer extension it comes with a dom inspector
14:56 gerards grrrr don't make me install netscape AND firefox.
14:56 gerards really?
14:56 eeos gerards: have you tried it?
14:56 gerards of course.
14:56 gerards but where is it?
14:56 eeos gerards: under tool > dom inspector, but you could use the CTRL +SHIFT + I
14:57 gerards i don't have dom inspector....
14:57 gerards oh wait. i see it
14:57 gerards nothing's happening...
14:58 eeos gerards: what version of firefox?
14:58 gerards i really love the old dom tree browser. i think the older versions of FF had it.
14:58 gerards 1.5
14:58 eeos gerards: I am using 2.04
14:58 gerards 1.5.0
14:59 gerards eeos I hear it has problems? with RTE?
14:59 eeos gerards: sorry 2.0.0.3
14:59 bauschan everybody out there have a nice, relaxing weekend !
14:59 gerards my weekends haven't been nice and relaxing for many many months bauschan. but thanks!
15:00 max_muetze do you know a rte with a office 2003 interface? i've seen it here: http://www.catbyte.de/screencasts/typo3/seiten-anlegen-textinhalte-hinterlegen/
15:00 bauschan hey ,gerards give it a try ;)
15:01 eeos gerards: yes, it had problems
15:01 gerards eeos: had?
15:01 eeos gerards: but some good soul patched RTE so that now it works properly again
15:01 gerards bless him
15:01 gerards so i just need up update the htmlrtearea?
15:02 gerards ahahahah rtehtmlarea?
15:13 max_muetze noone knows this editor? or is it a commercial extension?
15:13 gerards eeos thanks.
15:13 gerards dom browser looks sweet.
15:13 gerards reminds me of netscape days....
15:14 tobi max_muetze i think its a extension theme for rtehtmlarea
15:14 max_muetze oh, there are themes for rtehtmlarea... why not.. ;) thx
15:14 eeos gerards: :D
15:16 neonide ok, so what is the quickest/dirtiest fix for the rte?
15:16 neonide link link :)
15:16 gerards neonide: does rte need to be fixed?
15:16 neonide gerards: yes i imagine on almost everyone's 4.1 install
15:17 gerards ahhh yes the 4.1 :)
15:19 socken23 hi all! How can I allow html tags in the subheader of tt_news!?
15:20 eeos gerards: be careful, this passion can wear you out :P
15:23 socken23 anyone, please!??
15:24 eeos re
15:42 socken23 pleeeaase!?
15:42 socken23 I'm desperately searching ;-)
15:42 eeos socken23: what?
15:43 socken23 I want to be able to use html tags in a tt_news subheader
15:43 socken23 like <br>
15:43 eeos socken23: so?
15:44 socken23 I can't, and I don't know how to activate that
15:44 socken23 when I use tags in the subeader, they're ignored
15:44 eeos socken23: what do yo mean you can't?
15:44 eeos socken23: are you using rte?
15:45 socken23 when I write something in a subheader "blabla <br> second line" everything appears on one line
15:45 socken23 It doesn't interpret the tags...
15:45 eeos socken23: sorry?
15:46 socken23 ok, let me start again...
15:46 socken23 in a news item, you get title, subheader, text etc..
15:46 socken23 in the subheader, you should be able to use html tags.
15:46 socken23 like using <b> for single words to appear bold
15:47 socken23 but on our site, when I use tags, nothing happens in the FE
15:47 socken23 Maybe you have to change some TS!?
15:47 eeos socken23: really? I did not know. as far as I know is a text field. They areprobably stripped.
15:47 socken23 eeos: right, but I know it's possible!
15:47 socken23 ;-)
15:57 t3po ok
16:05 neonide im rather new to css, where can i find a good css structure example for the output of the mini news extension?
16:06 neonide it appears to be nested classes, but i really dont know the BEST way to write the css
16:17 bedlamhotel Good morning. Any Apache wizards in here can answer an OT question?
16:19 bedlamhotel hah. Never mind, it has sorted itself out :)
16:56 eeos taking a break
17:33 uschi morning Ries and bedlamhotel :)
17:50 j0hndeere Good afternoon, earth humans.
17:53 reber good evening ET
17:57 bedlamhotel Salut everyone.
18:01 Ries Hey uschi
18:02 uschi hello Ries :)
18:08 Stasik hello
18:09 Stasik i have problems with htmlricheditarea
18:09 Stasik i have line-hight set in css-styled conteant and richtextarea has it too, i dont wanna it
18:10 Denyerec set it to 1em or auto?
18:10 Stasik 1em
18:10 Stasik how can i set it for the rich edit field? have it 1,5 on webpage and 1,5 in frontend, have problems, while copy-pasting
18:11 Denyerec use a css sheetf or the rte
18:11 Denyerec the manual faq explains hoe iirc
18:12 Ebru here are turk?
18:14 Stasik are there another RTE alernatives?
18:14 Stasik which are a bit simplier?
18:15 Stasik where can i get a "powered by typo3" banner?
18:15 Denyerec I have rfound htmlrte ok
18:15 Denyerec if you can wait, I can supply you with details
18:15 Stasik yes, do it
18:15 Denyerec but I've spent 4 hours cargening
18:15 Denyerec gardneing
18:15 Stasik i have problems while copy/pasting
18:16 Denyerec gardening
18:16 Stasik oh
18:16 Denyerec my hands are bledding
18:16 Denyerec bleeding
18:16 Stasik it suck
18:16 Denyerec and I need a shower
18:16 Stasik can i just copy over?
18:16 Denyerec so I will be back in a short while
18:16 Denyerec brb
19:35 dokma hi al
19:35 dokma anyone on
19:36 dokma denyerec you here?
19:38 Ries hey dokma
19:53 Denyerec dokma ?
19:57 dokma hey
19:58 dokma I've got a quick one for you guys
19:58 dokma how do I set the wrap for the right content column only in csc?
19:58 dokma I need to wrap the entire element header + body
19:59 Denyerec err
19:59 Denyerec well
19:59 Denyerec if it's the whole column
19:59 Denyerec write it into your template
20:00 Denyerec are you using TemplaVoila ?
21:03 dokma duh... can't match up with you guys
21:04 dokma no it's not the whole column
21:04 dokma I need to wrap every individual content element (header+body in the same wrap) but only for the right column
21:22 Denyerec You keep talking about columns
21:22 Denyerec are you using TemplaVoila ?
21:34 pulponair hi there
21:37 Denyerec ola pulp
21:37 pulponair Denyerec: hi
21:38 pulponair Denyerec: i feel a little bored and i thought this could be the place to finde a little distraction
21:39 klassica Are there backwards incompatibilities in an upgrade from 4.0.x to 4.1.1?
21:39 klassica noticing that 4.0.x is still being maintained
21:40 Denyerec No idea.
21:45 pulponair klassica: no there are not
21:47 klassica ok
22:00 Denyerec Is there a LaTeX content element extension I wonder...
22:03 Ries Denyerec: hehehe nope.. you are the second one that needs it :)
22:10 klassica so what cities are you guys in?
22:13 Ries klassica: Quito/Ecuador gerards also
22:13 gerards yeah?
22:13 gerards oh.
22:13 klassica cool
22:14 klassica I'm in Walla Walla, WA, USA
22:14 klassica 4 hours from Seattle
22:15 Ries I am 30 minutes from the middle of the world!
22:15 klassica awesome
22:15 klassica south or north?
22:16 Ries good question
22:16 Ries I think south of the equatar we are
22:18 Denyerec The illustrious "Loughborough"
22:19 klassica which way does the toilet spin?
22:19 klassica (just kidding, its a myth)
22:21 gerards south.
22:21 klassica I see
22:21 gerards we're south Ries.
22:29 uschi hi folks :))
22:29 uschi just meant to wave good night from erfurt
22:30 brain-xy :)
22:30 brain-xy goodnight :P
22:30 klassica night
22:30 klassica erfurt?
22:30 uschi germany, thuringia, close to weimar
22:31 klassica cool
22:32 uschi klassica, read your question above: if you upgrade from 4.0.x to 4.1.q you will have to uninstall your local version of rtehtmlarea
22:32 uschi if it was only a little earlier than it is over here
22:33 uschi there is still so much stuff to do and the day and half of the night are gone already
22:34 brain-xy yes.. time is running :(
23:11 uschi this one twists my mind, quote from context help on subgroups
23:11 uschi The properties of subgroups are added to the properties of this group and basically they will simply be added to the list of member groups of any user which is a member of this group.
23:11 uschi This feature provides a great way to create 'Supervisor' user groups.
23:11 uschi it is the part from 'and basically ...'
23:13 bedlamhotel uschi: it means "any access rights belonging to subgroups of group A are inherited by all /users/ belonging to group A"
23:14 uschi but it does not mean, that they actually become members of the subgroups, right?
23:14 bedlamhotel It does not mean that as far as I know, no.
23:15 uschi there is this column usergroup_cached_list in be_users
23:16 bedlamhotel What it is trying to say in its inimical, convoluted way, is that adding subgroups to a group record has the same effect as adding those same groups to a user record (as far as that user is concerned).
23:16 uschi inimical, convolutet *L*
23:16 uschi -t+d
23:18 bedlamhotel I've always thought 'subgroups' was the wrong label anyhow. In terms of the hierarchy, it always seems to me that the group to whose record other groups are added is the child- or sub-group (i.e. because it /inherits/ access rights from the others). Having said that, the way it actually works may be more like 'sibling' I think...
23:21 uschi i suppose it is more human to think the hierarchy down
23:21 uschi this is lotus notes like
23:23 uschi hm, sibling, does not seem right either
23:24 bedlamhotel I know. Maybe 'sub' is best, but it still doesn't seem to hit the target exactly...
23:36 Denyerec a sibling would be an across-ways relation
23:37 bedlamhotel Yes denyerec, I know that.
23:37 Denyerec Hmm
23:37 Denyerec I see what you're saying.
23:38 Denyerec Sub implies it's inferior
23:38 Denyerec wheras all the permissions simply add up.
23:38 bedlamhotel sub implies child/parent relationship...sometimes it seems to make sense, sometimes not.
23:39 bedlamhotel I think 'constituent group' or something like that might describe the relationship more realistically.
23:39 bedlamhotel ...but maybe that's exactly the same as 'sub'...
23:40 bedlamhotel In any case, it's time to go home. I'll think about it on the way :)
23:40 uschi i am trying to some up the enlightenments of today
23:41 uschi i hope you will find a lot of easter eggs then, bedlamhotel :)
23:41 bedlamhotel Heh. You too.
23:41 uschi do people in canada search eggs?
23:42 klassica I'm sure they do
23:42 bedlamhotel Yes.
23:42 klassica I live close to canada
23:42 uschi will you be online over the weekend, bedlamhotel
23:42 uschi and you are searching eggs as well, klassica ?
23:42 bedlamhotel uschi: saturday, possibly monday.
23:42 klassica I'm going to a island with a college biology club this weekend
23:42 klassica I dont know if there will be eggs or not
23:43 klassica maybe snake eggs!
23:43 uschi by the way klassica, you are not incidentally female?
23:43 klassica hell no
23:43 uschi something to look forward to *g*
23:43 klassica sorry
23:43 uschi oops, sorry, klassica
23:43 klassica does studying biology make one female?
23:43 uschi no your nick is latin and has a female ending
23:44 klassica actually, I should point out that I dont study biology. I'm in the club because there are more chicks than in the CS club
23:44 klassica oh
23:44 klassica yeah, its a software project
23:44 klassica klassica.wwc.edu
23:44 bedlamhotel ciao everyone :)
23:45 uschi what is the CS club?
23:45 klassicano how's that look
23:45 uschi better :)
23:46 klassico there's that too
23:47 uschi works as well
23:47 uschi well, i have to go to sleep
23:48 uschi 2:00 am over here
23:48 klassico normally on IRC, my nick is excalibur, but that's taken on freenode
23:49 uschi klassico is not too bad
23:49 xcalibur yeah, xcalibur is taken too
23:49 klassico that works

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