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#TYPO3 IRC log from : Saturday 7 April 2007

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01:14 brain_xy does anybody know if JS has a function like in php html_entity_decode?
01:40 brain_xy anybody alive? :)
04:11 mahi hello
04:12 mahi whois mahi
09:56 pulponair hi there
10:01 Tester110 hi
10:02 Tester110 did anybody use a counter with typo3?
10:02 Tester110 i need stats for my site
10:02 Tester110 is there a extension available
10:06 pulponair andreasbalzer: are you arround?
10:10 Tester110 any ideas about my questions?
10:12 pulponair Tester110: just a pure counter or something like google analytics/awstats?
11:02 ceed http://maps.google.de/maps?f=d&hl=de&saddr=Hamburg&daddr=New%2BYork&layer=&sll=47.15984,-46.40625&sspn=43.133116,146.25&ie=UTF8&z=4&ll=47.15984,-31.992187&spn=43.133116,117.421875&om=1
11:02 ceed see #44 on the left
12:00 tilmanBK Hi - there are a lot of gallery-ext. Which one do you prefer? I didn't ever use a gallery in typo3 so I'm a little bit lost
12:04 voidus tilmanBK: do you use dam or not?
12:04 tilmanBK dam ?
12:05 voidus digital asset management
12:05 tilmanBK never heard of that :-)
12:05 voidus if not, i recommend jm_gallery
12:07 tilmanBK ok, thx - that's a starting point :)
12:07 tilmanBK do you know where I can see an implemented example in the web?
12:12 voidus tilmanBK: http://www.m00re.de/personal/photos/
12:13 tilmanBK nice, thx
12:13 tilmanBK this looks good :-)
12:18 Ries morning/afternoon folks
13:23 Ries hey guys, I am making 'yet another gallery' (but with some additional features I need)
13:23 Ries what is prefered, FE editing or BE editing of the gallery content?
13:23 andreasbalzer BE
13:24 andreasbalzer :D
13:24 andreasbalzer will it be DAM capable?
13:24 Ries andreasbalzer: I will not use the list module for adding records....
13:24 Ries since this gallery will allow for uploading multi-files at a time, or you can use FTP
13:24 andreasbalzer this possible with DAM too..
13:25 Ries I will not use DAM
13:25 andreasbalzer oh ok..
13:25 Ries although I can feed DAM with information if I want to so other extension can use the content...
13:26 Ries it's more about editing each image or image group price infoo, date info etc etc etc
13:27 Ries if I do it on the FE I can make it more user friendly....
13:32 brain-xy hello all :)
13:33 Ries ey brain-xy
13:33 brain-xy hi ries :)
13:36 brain-xy ries.. do you know a possibility to change the date formatting in the BE?
14:02 Rocketjock Morning Everyone
14:19 Rocketjock Morning |Awillys|
14:27 ovis hi what is going on when the htmlarea RTE is loosing its colors and other markup when saved ????
14:28 ovis and what is the best kind of RTE to use with 3.8.1
14:37 ovis mmh
14:43 Rocketjock For 3.8.1 I think you want version 1.1.4...(Not sure of the version number)
14:44 Rocketjock losing color happens.. I have to clean out the font tags then re-save sometimes
14:45 Rocketjock if it doesn't go away try using TinyRTE
14:45 Rocketjock instead of HTMLArea
14:46 Rocketjock if your pasting the text in from word the fonts don't always transfer correctly
14:53 Rocketjock Hi gerards!
14:53 gerards hi Rocketjock, i don't see you around for quite some time.
14:53 gerards how was you good friday?
14:54 Rocketjock Friday was fine ...yours?
14:54 gerards not bad.
14:54 gerards went out of the house for the first time after 4 days.
14:54 gerards ;)
14:54 gerards sad huh?
14:54 Rocketjock I have been working on my network... fighting with subnetwasks
14:55 Rocketjock sub netmasks
14:55 gerards i was fooling around with svn.
14:55 Rocketjock 4 days.... dang
14:55 gerards know much about svn Rocketjock?
14:55 Rocketjock nope...sry
14:56 Rocketjock not event sure what svn is :)
14:56 Rocketjock what is it?
14:56 gerards its like CVS.
14:56 Rocketjock oh ok
14:56 gerards its a versioning system.
14:56 gerards yeah ok... svn refuses to NOT create the typo3conf/ext directory if it already exists. so I might have to checkout EACH extension one by one
14:57 gerards i think its rather silly. but hey, who am I? i'm just a php programmer.
14:57 Rocketjock each....holy cow
14:57 gerards each extension that we're working on.
14:57 gerards anyway, whats' wrong with your netmasks?
14:57 Rocketjock holy cow was not an easter weekend pun :)
14:58 gerards oh...
14:58 gerards sorry
14:58 gerards wait.
14:58 gerards HAHAHAHAHAH! LOL! ROFL.
14:58 gerards better?
14:58 gerards ;)
14:58 Rocketjock I need to figure it out... don't know how it works
14:58 Rocketjock lol yes thanks
14:59 gerards Rocketjock: you use Parallels right?
14:59 Rocketjock yes
14:59 gerards does Parallels allow you to create virtual networks?
15:00 Rocketjock you know, I don't know... but that is a great idea
15:00 gerards yeah, you can just create like 8-10 linux VM with 200MB each. and fool around there right?
15:02 Rocketjock I will have to look into that... that would be better then taking my network down all the time...because I don't know what I am doing :)
15:03 gerards yeah.
15:20 Rocketjock time to eat bbl
15:38 ovis :q
15:38 ovis :
15:55 j0hndeere Good morning, humans.
15:55 gerards good morning j0hndeere
15:56 taner_c hallo
15:57 taner_c ups
15:58 taner_c hi
16:54 tofirius happy easter everyone
17:17 voidus tofirius: for you too :)
17:17 tofirius thanks voidus
17:17 tofirius :)
18:39 uschi hello folks :)
18:39 uschi Boonkerz :) bist du da?
18:40 uschi sorry, wrong language
18:40 uschi j0hndeere , awake you are?
18:42 uschi somehow it is very silent here today
18:43 uschi hi Fabian
18:56 Fabian- hi
18:56 uschi hi Fabian
18:56 uschi somehow it is really silent, still
19:13 TachoKnight can anyone assist me in adding page content to another page?
19:13 TachoKnight in 3.8.1
19:14 TachoKnight what i'm trying to do is have a typo3 page that is displayed within another page, so that the first page is nothing but text to be modified, while the "main" page, with the template, displays it
19:14 TachoKnight so i can give access to just the one page, and not the main page (with the template)
19:15 TachoKnight i'm sorry if this is trivial, but for the life of me i can't figure out how to do it
19:15 TachoKnight 'cause i don't want the content on the main page
19:17 TachoKnight temp.mainTemplate = TEMPLATE
19:17 TachoKnight temp.mainTemplate {
19:17 TachoKnight template = FILE
19:17 TachoKnight template.file=fileadmin/cc_main.html
19:17 TachoKnight workonSubpart = DOCUMENT_BODY
19:17 TachoKnight subparts.SPOTLIGHT_TEXT = TEXT
19:17 TachoKnight subparts.SPOTLIGHT_TEXT.content = Spotlight.pagecontent.get
19:17 TachoKnight }
19:17 TachoKnight # Default page object
19:17 TachoKnight page = PAGE
19:17 TachoKnight page.typeNum = 0
19:17 TachoKnight page.10 < temp.mainTemplate
19:17 TachoKnight page.stylesheet = fileadmin/cc_main.css
19:18 TachoKnight that's what i've got, but it doesn't work, in that the content from Spotlight (a page in typo3) doesn't show
19:19 TachoKnight so i'm not sure what to do
19:20 TachoKnight i've been going through the tutorial, but it seems to suggest that the content and the page are the same
19:29 TachoKnight anyone?
20:14 voidus TachoKnight: you need to use CONTENT or RECORDS instead of TEXT
20:14 voidus TEXT have no property ".content"
20:14 TachoKnight so it'd be subparts.SPOTLIGHT_TEXT = RECORDS
20:14 TachoKnight subparts.SPOTLIGHT_TEXT.record = 1?
20:15 uschi hi voidus and TachoKnight :)
20:15 TachoKnight hi uschi
20:15 TachoKnight and hi voidus
20:15 TachoKnight :)
20:15 voidus hi uschi :)
20:15 uschi finally life comes up here
20:15 TachoKnight does that look right, voidus?
20:15 voidus TachoKnight: no :)
20:15 TachoKnight of course not :)
20:16 voidus RECORDS have no property ".record" :)
20:16 uschi they have a property select?
20:16 uschi voidus will enlighten the two of us TachoKnight
20:16 TachoKnight i hope so :)
20:16 TachoKnight i'm a total n00b with typo3 templating
20:17 uschi so we shall see you here more often, i guess :)
20:18 TachoKnight i believe so
20:18 voidus RECORDS have property ".source"... as i at 1000th time read in tsref :)
20:18 uschi oh shit
20:19 uschi TachoKnight there are lot of things to learn :)
20:19 TachoKnight oh yes
20:19 TachoKnight it's been interesting, but quite confusing
20:20 uschi and never ever use CONTENT or RECORDS for the pages table
20:20 uschi it is powerfull and even fun, but the learning curve is high
20:20 TachoKnight what do you mean?
20:20 uschi take it like playing a game
20:20 TachoKnight pages table?
20:20 TachoKnight yes, but i lose at games :)
20:21 uschi if you create a page, that is stored in table pages
20:21 TachoKnight in the db
20:21 uschi yes
20:21 TachoKnight ok
20:21 uschi if you create a record, that record is stored in tt_content
20:22 uschi your bible for the beginning is the tsref
20:22 uschi tsref == short for TypoScript reference
20:22 TachoKnight yes, i'm looking at it now
20:22 TachoKnight i was going through the ts tutorial
20:23 uschi next important thing: never ever mix up TSConfig and TSref
20:23 TachoKnight yes, i found a lot of my time spent in the tsconfig manual
20:23 TachoKnight "but i already installed it!!!"
20:23 TachoKnight :)
20:24 TachoKnight so i can load a subpart with a record?
20:25 voidus yes
20:25 uschi voidus is the one to ask here
20:25 uschi i am not familiar with subparts, from the beginning onwards i used templavoila
20:25 TachoKnight yes, i can't use that though
20:25 TachoKnight doesn't support 3.8.1
20:25 TachoKnight and i can't change the installed config
20:25 TachoKnight not my server :)
20:26 TachoKnight so i changed my template to:
20:26 TachoKnight subparts.SPOTLIGHT_TEXT = RECORD
20:26 TachoKnight subparts.SPOTLIGHT_TEXT.source.field = 156
20:26 TachoKnight where 156 is the actual "spotlight" page id
20:26 TachoKnight but i don't get the text :(
20:27 voidus no..
20:27 voidus .source = pages_156
20:27 voidus no
20:27 voidus .source = tt_content_156 :)
20:27 voidus btw, what is 156? :)
20:27 uschi *L*
20:27 TachoKnight the "spotlight" page
20:28 uschi ah, it is a page
20:28 uschi TachoKnight where are you from?
20:28 TachoKnight hmm
20:28 TachoKnight chicago, usa
20:28 voidus so.. i think, we need CONTENT to select all content elements from page..
20:29 TachoKnight hm
20:29 TachoKnight so, this is my whole template right now:
20:29 TachoKnight temp.mainTemplate = TEMPLATE
20:29 TachoKnight temp.mainTemplate {
20:29 TachoKnight template = FILE
20:29 TachoKnight template.file=fileadmin/cc_main.html
20:29 TachoKnight workonSubpart = DOCUMENT_BODY
20:29 TachoKnight subparts.SPOTLIGHT_TEXT = RECORD
20:29 TachoKnight subparts.SPOTLIGHT_TEXT.source.field = tt_content_156
20:29 TachoKnight }
20:29 TachoKnight # Default page object
20:29 TachoKnight page = PAGE
20:29 TachoKnight page.typeNum = 0
20:29 TachoKnight page.10 < temp.mainTemplate
20:29 TachoKnight page.stylesheet = fileadmin/cc_main.css
20:29 TachoKnight does that look okay?
20:29 voidus no..
20:29 TachoKnight where are you folks from?
20:29 TachoKnight i didn't think so
20:29 TachoKnight :)
20:29 uschi germany
20:29 TachoKnight as it doesn't work
20:29 TachoKnight :)
20:29 voidus russia
20:29 TachoKnight ah, where in russia?
20:30 voidus hahaha :)
20:30 TachoKnight i have been to moscow, talin, and st. petersburg
20:30 voidus no..
20:30 voidus small city
20:30 TachoKnight ah
20:30 voidus penza
20:30 TachoKnight didn't make it there last time :)
20:30 TachoKnight sorry
20:30 voidus np
20:31 TachoKnight so i'm not loading the subpart right?
20:31 voidus change RECORDS to CONTENT
20:32 TachoKnight so it becomes:
20:32 TachoKnight temp.mainTemplate = TEMPLATE
20:32 TachoKnight temp.mainTemplate {
20:32 TachoKnight template = FILE
20:32 TachoKnight template.file=fileadmin/cc_main.html
20:32 TachoKnight workonSubpart = DOCUMENT_BODY
20:32 TachoKnight subparts.SPOTLIGHT_TEXT = CONTENT
20:32 TachoKnight subparts.SPOTLIGHT_TEXT.source.field = tt_content_156
20:32 TachoKnight }
20:32 TachoKnight # Default page object
20:32 TachoKnight page = PAGE
20:32 TachoKnight page.typeNum = 0
20:32 TachoKnight page.10 < temp.mainTemplate
20:32 TachoKnight page.stylesheet = fileadmin/cc_main.css
20:34 TachoKnight does the spotlight (id=156) need a template as well? it's not meant to be viewed anywhere but in the main page
20:34 voidus subparts.SPOTLIGHT_TEXT {
20:34 voidus table = tt_content
20:34 voidus select.pidInList = 156
20:34 voidus select.orderBy = sorting
20:34 voidus }
20:35 TachoKnight can i do that inside the temp.mainTemplate block?
20:35 TachoKnight or does it get broken out
20:36 voidus TachoKnight: you can
20:36 TachoKnight oaky
20:37 TachoKnight okay
20:37 TachoKnight so it looks like:
20:37 TachoKnight temp.mainTemplate {
20:37 TachoKnight template = FILE
20:37 TachoKnight template.file=fileadmin/cc_main.html
20:37 TachoKnight workonSubpart = DOCUMENT_BODY
20:37 TachoKnight subparts.SPOTLIGHT_TEXT {
20:37 TachoKnight table = tt_content
20:37 TachoKnight select.pidInList = 156
20:37 TachoKnight select.orderBy = sorting
20:37 TachoKnight }
20:37 TachoKnight }
20:38 voidus you forget = CONTENT
20:38 TachoKnight night uschi
20:38 voidus good night, uschi
20:38 TachoKnight where does content go?
20:38 uschi good night voidus and TachoKnight
20:38 voidus TachoKnight: before subparts.SPOTLIGHT_TEXT
20:39 voidus TachoKnight: copy that ^^ to phpfi.com, please
20:39 voidus or to pastebin
20:40 TachoKnight i pasted it to phpfi
20:40 TachoKnight http://phpfi.com/224706
20:42 voidus TachoKnight: http://phpfi.com/224707
20:42 TachoKnight yay!
20:43 TachoKnight voidus, you are 1337!
20:43 pulponair hahaha
20:43 pulponair http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZ9-T-xVlvU
20:43 voidus h3h3.. d0n7 t71nk s0
20:43 TachoKnight btw, can you specify which side of the page, like left, center, or right
20:44 TachoKnight you are to me
20:44 TachoKnight i've been banging my head on this for hours
20:45 voidus TachoKnight: http://phpfi.com/224708
20:46 TachoKnight i'm guessing 0 = left, 1 = center, 2 = right?
20:47 voidus styles.content.get = CONTENT
20:47 voidus styles.content.get {
20:47 voidus table = tt_content
20:47 voidus select.orderBy = sorting
20:47 voidus select.where = colPos=0
20:47 voidus select.languageField = sys_language_uid
20:47 voidus }
20:47 voidus styles.content.getLeft < styles.content.get
20:47 voidus styles.content.getLeft.select.where = colPos=1
20:47 voidus styles.content.getRight < styles.content.get
20:47 voidus styles.content.getRight.select.where = colPos=2
20:47 voidus styles.content.getBorder < styles.content.get
20:47 voidus styles.content.getBorder.select.where = colPos=3
20:47 voidus 0 - center, 1 - left, 2 - right, 3 - border
20:47 TachoKnight ah
20:49 TachoKnight yay, that works
20:49 TachoKnight i switched it to 1 and the left page shows
20:49 voidus :)
20:51 TachoKnight so hows the weather? :)
20:52 pulponair dark and fuckin cold
20:52 TachoKnight where?
20:52 voidus pulponair: same here :)
20:52 pulponair TachoKnight: over here ;)
20:53 TachoKnight that puts me over there :)
20:53 pulponair and all those "easter fires" all around
20:53 pulponair TachoKnight:where are you located?
20:54 TachoKnight chicago, usa
20:54 pulponair TachoKnight: hamburg, germany
20:54 [666] hi pulponair
20:54 pulponair hi 666
20:54 [666] pulponair: and whats up :)
20:54 pulponair 666: nothing i feel bored
20:55 [666] pulponair: sick ?
20:55 [666] or just bored :)
20:55 pulponair 666: no bored not sick ;)
20:55 [666] hrhr join me , going to birthday pary :)
20:55 pulponair TachoKnight: so what is your local time atm?
20:55 TachoKnight 4pm
20:55 [666] ah k usa :)
20:55 pulponair 666: i would ...but i guess you are way to far away ;)
20:56 [666] pulponair: hmmm maybe u can take a fast heli :)
20:56 pulponair TachoKnight: : 11 pm over here
20:56 TachoKnight wow
20:56 TachoKnight time for bed :)
20:56 [666] hmm thw other side of the wolrd , nice :)
20:56 pulponair 666: yes but mine is at the garage atm
20:57 brain-xy hey pulponair .. where do you work in hamburg actually?
20:57 pulponair brain-xy: sh&r
20:57 [666] pulponair: ah no problem i'll sent u mine
20:57 pulponair 666: and i am not that good on foot ;)
20:57 voidus TachoKnight: 1 am here :)
20:58 pulponair 666: hurry up i need a bunch of beer immediatly ;)
20:58 [666] voidus: where u from
20:58 voidus [666]: russia, penza
20:58 pulponair voidus: russia
20:58 pulponair :9
20:59 TachoKnight i've had to stop temporarily...small baby crying
20:59 pulponair TachoKnight: :)
20:59 TachoKnight hard to work with kids :)
20:59 [666] ah my delivery car arrived :)
20:59 [666] so hf , till monday *g*
20:59 pulponair 666:have fun ...and have a drink on me
21:00 pulponair 666: or two ...
21:00 [666] pulponair: sure i will !
21:00 [666] :))
21:00 [666] c
21:00 [666] u
21:00 TachoKnight bye
21:00 TachoKnight 666
21:00 pulponair brain-xy: why did you ask?
21:00 [666] by TachoKnight
21:00 brain-xy i meet so much webguys from hamburg last time :P
21:01 pulponair brain-xy: hey dont call me a webguy ;)
21:01 pulponair brain-xy:i wouldn consinder my beeing a webguy
21:01 brain-xy aehm.. ok.. mr. pulponair :) .. like.. pulp fiction.. i love this movie..
21:01 Scorpion hummel hummel
21:02 pulponair brain-xy: no i use to name myself like this for almost 15 years
21:02 pulponair brain-xy: i used |pulp until a guy on ircnet stole this nick during the early 90s
21:04 voidus early 90? o_O
21:04 pulponair yeah
21:05 voidus you must be hacker :)
21:05 voidus if you know about irc at early 90
21:06 pulponair voidus: hmmm i recently discovered that google archives early fido posts
21:07 pulponair voidus: http://groups.google.de/group/maus.lang.tpascal/browse_thread/thread/8a39d663a3a01ec7/7f9610b44333ecaa?lnk=st&q=%22nikolas+hagelstein%22&rnum=105&hl=de#7f9610b44333ecaa
21:07 pulponair voidus: the last post ...
21:07 pulponair voidus: note the date and the (2:240/4127.23)
21:07 voidus i see
21:08 pulponair voidus: hehe this post wasnt even send via email ...hehe
21:09 voidus via tosser :)
21:10 pulponair voidus: yeah
21:12 voidus at 95 i didn't know anything about computers :)
21:14 pulponair voidus: sometimes i feel like as i knew much more than today ...
21:14 pulponair voidus: probably because all of those web crap ;) or because i am getting old ;)
21:16 voidus :))
21:17 pulponair voidus: guess what i used to run my own BBS ....it must be arround here somewhere on cd.....i wonder if os/2 still runs on mondern hw ....*dig through old cartons"
21:18 voidus hehe :) i remember my 630 MB hard drive... and how i tryed to connect CDROM drive to 486..
21:19 pulponair i ownd a 286 laptop 5mb (huge amount) ram and 120mb harddrive :)
21:19 pulponair took me one somer of work until i could effort it
21:20 pulponair :)
21:20 pulponair but the bbs system ran on a 386/40 16mb ram 420mb + 540 mb harddrive ...
21:21 pulponair 3 modem lines (1x 14.4 2x28.8)
21:21 pulponair plus ....tatat one isdn lines
21:21 pulponair probably one of the first ones sold in germany ;)
21:22 pulponair i guess i got some pictures of this "hell mashine" over here ..but damn i can not find them
21:24 TachoKnight voidus: your help has been great ... i'm getting my page working well now :)
21:25 voidus TachoKnight: you're welcome :)
21:25 TachoKnight was this in the manual somewhere? i find the t3ref kind of confusing
21:28 voidus tsref is a reference.. but not tutorial
21:29 TachoKnight true
21:29 TachoKnight though the tutorial didn't get into this stuff :)
21:29 voidus hm.. dunno..
21:30 voidus i advise to see into extension css_styled_content
21:31 voidus a lot of TS, basic content rendering.. so basic things should become clear
21:32 pulponair i gotta go ...bye folks
21:33 voidus c u
21:33 TachoKnight bye pulponair
21:42 pmk If you want to learn typoscript, then a good beginners tutorial is this one: http://typo3.org/documentation/document-library/core-documentation/doc_core_tsbyex/0.0.16/view/
21:44 TachoKnight thanks pmk
21:44 TachoKnight part of the problem, i think, is that i'm still using 3.8.1
21:45 TachoKnight and there doesn't seem to be an easy upgrade to the latest 4.x version
21:45 TachoKnight which a lot of the docs seem to reference now
22:09 pwatol I'm looking for a new CMS for a site I manage, and typo3 looks like it may fit the bill (I read through the tutorial on the web site). There are just a couple of things I need to do that weren't addressed there: I want to allow any registered user to add content to the home page (a la the News module in PHPNuke), and I want users to be able to self-register with email confirmation. Are these things that typo3 is set up to handle
22:14 magusdigitalis somebody around?
22:14 pwatol I am. But that won't help you probably.
22:14 magusdigitalis well, worth a try i'd say. ;)
22:15 pwatol I asked a question about 5 minutes ago, and have had nothing but silence. Do you know much about typo3?
22:15 magusdigitalis LOL was about to ask you that ...
22:16 pwatol That's what we get for believing the hype on the typo3 web site about how useful the irc channel is. ;)
22:16 magusdigitalis well, ok, lets give it a try - whats your problem? maybe i CAN help you nevertheless
22:17 TachoKnight voidus: thanks again for all the help....you really saved my sanity!
22:17 voidus :))
22:17 TachoKnight i have to go help get dinner ready, but in case you take off (it's rather late there), thanks again
22:17 TachoKnight VOIDUS ROCKS THE TYPO3 WORLD!
22:18 pwatol I've never actually used typo3, and I've got a web site I'm managing with PHPNuke, but that's got its limitations and I'm looking for a new CMS. I think typo3 may work, but I need to know if it has a "News" type functionality where registered users can submit news stories to the site.
22:18 voidus :)))
22:18 magusdigitalis see pwatol, another one made happy :)
22:18 voidus good night
22:18 magusdigitalis pwatol > actually it has such a feature
22:19 magusdigitalis the most common extension used for this is called tt_news
22:19 pwatol Good news. The tutorial has all sorts of info on making new users through the back end. Can users self-register with email confirmation?
22:20 magusdigitalis usually yes. the process depends on the extension you use for that
22:20 pwatol Is this an extension that lets any registered user submit or just ones you assign into some news admin group?
22:22 magusdigitalis again, the functionality depends on the extension. i have used tt_news just for my very own handling, thus can't really answer you about that
22:23 magusdigitalis however consindering the functionallity of "newloginbox " and tt_news i'd positively say yes you can achieve it
22:23 pwatol Oh, and can you write code to build pages off a database easily? Here's an example of what I mean: http://www.mibci.org/modules.php?name=MiBCI_organization&file=congress&op=auction_list&event_year=2007&event_name=2007%20Ornithological%20Congress - I built a table in the db to keep track of donations, and the code dynamically creates this page.
22:26 magusdigitalis ah, greetings to the states :) - well sure you can do that. one way would be by doing it manually on an ordinary page, another one would be by using a thirdparty php-script, and again another way could be using a fitting extension for that purpose
22:27 magusdigitalis as TYPO3 is a framework based on a mysql database you have all the ways wide open to access your data whether it be by TYPO3 internally or by included php-scripts
22:28 pwatol So php scripts can get embedded on pages? I'm fairly new to php and self-taught, but I keep finding ways to incorporate it into web pages.
22:29 magusdigitalis they sure can, i use an extension called "lumophpinclude" to make it even easier for me to use them
22:33 pwatol Cool. Sounds like I need to set aside some time to really get into typo3 and see how it works. Considering that I've already got the site up live, any suggestions on where to develop the replacement site? I don't want to screw the whole works up for a couple of weeks while I figure out what's what. And I've already got some registered users and some phpBB messages. Is there a phpBB extension for typo3? Or something similar that
22:35 magusdigitalis shouldn't a big thing to develop your new site aside your existing one. to be absolutely sure to not harm your active one you could copy the whole T3-system into a subfolder and start development from there
22:36 magusdigitalis I'm not totally sure but I think I saw a "bridge" for phpBB
22:37 magusdigitalis However, if you allow a proposal, change to another boardsystem as phpBB has a standing reputation of being the most hacked board on the net.
22:38 pwatol Oh, heck. If you saw how many posts we've had to date, you'd see why I'd almost welcome a hack just to get the traffic up. ;)
22:38 pwatol Any suggestions on a replacement?
22:38 magusdigitalis LOL
22:39 magusdigitalis hmmm..."woltlab burning board," vbulletin, or to keep it cost effective (as in FREE) check "smf"
22:40 pwatol Free. That about sums up our budget.
22:41 magusdigitalis take your time and visit: http://www.simplemachines.org/
22:45 Ries good afternoon folks
22:46 magusdigitalis deep 'n dark night that is around me ;)
22:46 pwatol Early evening here, but at least it's stopped snowing.
22:47 magusdigitalis are you close to the lake?
22:48 pwatol Dead smack between Lake Michigan and Lakes Erie and Huron. Don't actually get lake effect snow this far in.
22:49 magusdigitalis I C, been there in CHI couple of years ago during this time of the year and "froze me backside" ;)
22:50 pwatol I'm about a 4 hour drive from Chicago. Everything went warm and springy here for a couple of weeks - daffodils in bloom and everything - and then the temps dropped just below freezing again. So all our spring rain is coming down as spring snow. It's just not sticking.
22:52 pwatol Oh wait. There's the snow again.
22:52 magusdigitalis shouldn't have spoken 'bout it :)
22:54 magusdigitalis we still have some snow here on the mountains around and as long as that stuff is there you might have the sun but the winds are still rather chilly
22:54 magusdigitalis Hey Ries, no snow where you are right?
22:54 pwatol Whereabouts are you located?
22:55 magusdigitalis Bavaria
22:55 magusdigitalis Quite close to the austrian border
22:56 pwatol Guess that means I shouldn't waste my time trying to get you to join our little conservation group, eh? ;)
22:57 magusdigitalis <g> if i were around I'd really be interested
22:57 magusdigitalis on the other hand, we all have more than enough to conserve right?
23:01 magusdigitalis theres one thing i'd like to show you though, regarding easy and fearfree development -> http://typo3.org/download/installers/ - check out the WAMP-package. that one provides you with a local environment to work your ways to a better understanding of T3 and its ways to get things done
23:07 magusdigitalis as i'm already here I should at least ask about the challenge that led me here -> anybody here already updated (say a 4.0.3) to 4.1.1?
23:09 pwatol Sorry about disappearing - got a call from a friend for tech support.
23:11 magusdigitalis no big deal :) guess it's up to me now to wait for someone who can help me with my request
23:12 pwatol I wish I could help, but I only know enough to be dangerous. :) I just know more than the other biologists I work with.
23:13 magusdigitalis NOT to be dangerous to birds that is :)
23:13 pwatol Oh, maybe to just a few of them. ;)
23:13 pwatol The tasty ones.
23:14 magusdigitalis mostly fried ones i assume :)
23:14 pwatol There's that. Then there's the goose jerky or the dove with water chestnut and bacon that folks have brought to pot lucks.
23:15 magusdigitalis yummy!
23:15 pwatol Woodcock tends to show up sometimes at game dinners as well.
23:15 magusdigitalis you're kiddin' right?
23:16 pwatol Nope. I work at a wildlife agency, and pot luck lunches and dinners tend to feature a fair amount of wild game dishes.
23:17 pwatol I miss working in New Hampshire where you could count on seeing moose chili or moose stew showing up. No moose hunt in Michigan.
23:17 magusdigitalis I see...yet i've never heard about having woodcock for dinner...i wonder whether its tastes somewhat....woody!? ;)
23:18 magusdigitalis no moose at all in MI?
23:18 pwatol Actually, they eat worms. So they should taste like bait. ;)
23:18 magusdigitalis rotflmao, gooooood one !
23:18 pwatol There are moose, just not enough to support a harvest.
23:20 pwatol Did you guess you'd have such an educational discussion in here today?
23:20 magusdigitalis one could say illegal aliens from CDN
23:21 magusdigitalis nope ! not at all :) which makes it even more than just a possibility for me to return to this highly entertaining place :)
23:22 pwatol You must've read about our moose lift! Check out http://www.michigan.gov/dnr/0,1607,7-153-10319-110006--,00.html for photos of them flying the moose in from Canada.
23:22 magusdigitalis At least I learned tonight that one can have woodcock for dinner...and we DO have'm here you kno' .... <G>
23:24 magusdigitalis That was 1985, so by now they should've happily procreated to a stable moose community...
23:24 pwatol Heck yeah, I know. We hosted the American Woodcock Symposium last year and had speakers from the UK, France, and Belarus. The French guys showed us slides of them studying cow pies looking for woodcock sign. This is *not* where we look for woodcock sign in the US.
23:24 pwatol There's just not that much moose habitat in the state. And the deer carry brainworm, which can take down a moose.
23:25 magusdigitalis brainworm comparable to CJS?
23:26 magusdigitalis creutzfeld jacobs that is...
23:27 magusdigitalis i mean they both seem to mush up the brain matter
23:27 pwatol Nope, it's literally a worm that migrates into the brain of the host animal and chews it up. The deer/elk equivalent to CJS is CWD (chronic wasting disease), which thankfully hasn't been found in the state yet. CWD is just a protein that's gone bad. Very very bad.
23:29 pwatol There's stories from out west where they incinerated CWD deer and then found the CWD prions in the soil the next year. Scary stuff.
23:29 Ries pwatol: phpNuke can't be compared with typo3 :) I am not sure if phpuke is a CMS at all
23:29 magusdigitalis i actually do remember about the worm now that you say it. you might have heard that we had a CJS-sweep amongs cattle just about a year ago around here...
23:29 magusdigitalis Straight shot Ries.
23:30 magusdigitalis Hows the weather in quito?
23:30 Ries magusdigitalis: Snow, in Ecuador?!?!?! no way!
23:30 pwatol But for someone with no experience with these newfangled web site systems, it was a darn handy place to start learning. :)
23:30 magusdigitalis up the Andes perhaps ...?
23:31 Ries magusdigitalis: A bit higher yes, I am just at 3300 meter
23:31 Ries some vulcanos do have snow whoch sometimes can see from here
23:31 magusdigitalis ok folks, I have my "coming out" now! YES I USED PHPNUKE TOO WAY BACK THEM but i was young and needed the money!
23:32 Ries Bit appart from that, it's always anywhere between 15 and 25 degrees
23:32 Ries magusdigitalis: Go brush your teeth.. we are not allowed to say 'nuke' in this room :D
23:32 magusdigitalis not much difference to here regarding the temperature...
23:33 magusdigitalis ok, so we say "php-you-know-what" - so say we all!
23:33 pwatol I'll have you know that my first web editor was Notepad. Then I graduated to Netscape Composer and MS Frontpage. I don't know if you can make decent looking web sites with just Notepad any more.
23:34 magusdigitalis you should've had your challenges creating graphics with that one i guess :
23:34 pwatol This'll probably date me, but....... I used to play around with ASCII art in high school.
23:35 magusdigitalis Hey Ries, know anything about an issue with the rte in the new 4.1.1? i updated from an earlier version and now have issues with that thing...and No I'm not yet on Firefox 2.003
23:36 magusdigitalis Ascii art, what an arcane piece of sorcery!
23:37 magusdigitalis just to tell you that there's still hope: I startet using notepad too way back when...
23:39 Ries magusdigitalis: I can't tell about RTE... at least for a 4.1.1 versio
23:39 Ries n
23:39 magusdigitalis well, thanks anyway
23:40 magusdigitalis i mean Ries, your demo page has really given me a certain momentum in my quest to get a grips on T3
23:42 magusdigitalis pwatol if you have a moment check http://www.rvantwisk.nl/ and be sure to put the T3 snippets into your favourites
23:43 magusdigitalis Ries, are you planning to put the demopage back online?
23:46 Ries magusdigitalis: My demo page? That must have been a long time ago I tink?
23:46 Ries I need to set that up again
23:47 Ries I am working on a fairly large project at this moment
23:47 Ries it does have a nice template and I might want to use that for a new demo
23:48 Ries be back in 10
23:49 magusdigitalis goed nieuws that youll put it back up
23:50 magusdigitalis however friends,brothers, romans as it's 01:52 around here I say i'll call it quits for today. thank you both for this friendly and by all means entertaining chat - hope to see you people around any time soon!!!
23:51 pwatol Thanks for all the info!
23:51 magusdigitalis pwatol you're very welcome!
23:51 magusdigitalis checking out now - over&out!
23:53 Ries pwatol: if you want to make a move away from nuke
23:53 Ries then write down for yourself what you expect from a CMS
23:53 Ries typo3 can do it all using the framework
23:53 Ries But sometimes it's best to get something out of the box
23:57 pwatol Ries: Oh, I know what I want it to do. But there's about a bazillion CMSes out there, and it takes a couple of days to run through each manual (at least). From reading the typo3 tutorial, it sounded like it might work. I need something that will fairly easily allow non-geeks to create simple web pages within the site while leaving the rest of the site alone. I need something that supports user groups so that I can create/manager
23:57 pwatol I need something that will let me easily add tables to the db and code up pages that can query the db.
23:58 pwatol In an ideal world, it'd also let me transfer over all the users and forum posts from the site I've already got built.
23:59 pwatol The nice part is that I can take a little bit of time to learn a CMS - the site's already out there and working.

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