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09:31 uschi morning andreasbalzer :)
09:31 andreasbalzer hi
10:16 Affenbrotbaum Hey there
10:18 just2b happy easter
10:19 Affenbrotbaum happy easter back
10:19 just2b thx affenbrotbaum... what a nick,...
10:20 Affenbrotbaum ;)
10:20 Affenbrotbaum german...
10:20 Affenbrotbaum uhm I got a question *duck*
10:20 andreasbalzer shoot ;)
10:21 Affenbrotbaum alright....warning: Im new to Typo.... I want to install the extension FE user registration and the manual says I should edit the TS template constant PID
10:22 Affenbrotbaum I find any other PId, but not the constant one...
10:22 andreasbalzer of your members?
10:22 andreasbalzer ok, let's try the following:
10:22 Affenbrotbaum quote:Set the TS template constant pid to the page id of this folder.
10:22 andreasbalzer hmmm..
10:23 andreasbalzer can you paste the url to that documentation page please?
10:23 Affenbrotbaum english?
10:23 andreasbalzer or German..
10:23 Affenbrotbaum http://typo3.org/documentation/document-library/extension-manuals/sr_feuser_register/2.5.6/view/1/4/#id3498296
10:23 Affenbrotbaum or here is the german http://wiki.typo3.org/index.php/De:Front_End_User_Registration
10:23 andreasbalzer no problem..
10:23 andreasbalzer ok..
10:24 andreasbalzer where do you want to store your member records?
10:24 andreasbalzer Do you have a sysfolder created for that?
10:24 Affenbrotbaum yep
10:24 andreasbalzer like 'Mitglieder' or 'Members'
10:24 andreasbalzer OK
10:24 andreasbalzer go to the template module
10:24 Affenbrotbaum yep
10:24 andreasbalzer then look in the pagetree for your members sysfolder
10:24 andreasbalzer hover your mouse over the folder and wait, till the alt tag will appear
10:24 Affenbrotbaum I got the Pid :)
10:24 andreasbalzer it'll show a number
10:25 andreasbalzer ok
10:25 Affenbrotbaum Ich kann schon n bissl damit umgehen, ich finde nur halt die Constant Pid nicht :)
10:25 andreasbalzer then go to your page where you want to add the extension
10:25 andreasbalzer this might be your root page
10:25 Affenbrotbaum yep
10:25 andreasbalzer or a template which is loaded on every page..
10:25 andreasbalzer ok
10:25 andreasbalzer click on that page
10:25 Affenbrotbaum ok
10:25 andreasbalzer now you see a template in the right side of your template module
10:26 andreasbalzer on the top right you see a dropdown menu
10:26 andreasbalzer Click on the arrow and select "Constant Editor"
10:26 Affenbrotbaum Im in there
10:26 andreasbalzer fine
10:26 andreasbalzer you'll see a lot of checkboxes on that page
10:27 andreasbalzer on the top left you'll some dropdown menus
10:27 Affenbrotbaum in the category "Content" ??
10:27 andreasbalzer open them and look, whether there's your members extension somewhere
10:28 andreasbalzer yeah
10:28 andreasbalzer try that one
10:28 andreasbalzer then scroll down and see, if there's an entry called [styles.content.loginform.pid]
10:28 Affenbrotbaum ah that one:
10:28 Affenbrotbaum got it
10:28 Affenbrotbaum and enter the PId there
10:28 andreasbalzer but this is not the one we are lookinf gor...
10:29 Affenbrotbaum ok
10:29 andreasbalzer it's just useful.. ok.. I have to look..
10:29 andreasbalzer one moment
10:32 andreasbalzer now save that document and change to "Info/Modify" in the top right dropdown
10:33 andreasbalzer the new page has 2 big textareas
10:33 Affenbrotbaum saving without changing anything ?
10:33 andreasbalzer ah ok.. I thought you have changed the log in setting I have posted..
10:33 andreasbalzer however: add the following at the end of the _first_ textarea: plugin.tx_srfeuserregister_pi1.pid = THEPIDGOESINHERE
10:34 andreasbalzer and change the THEPID.... to the number you saw when you hovered over the sysfolder..
10:34 Affenbrotbaum uhm I dont see any text field....I want the extension to appear on the rootpage
10:34 andreasbalzer you're still in template module?
10:34 andreasbalzer ah. sry
10:34 Affenbrotbaum yep
10:34 andreasbalzer ok.
10:35 andreasbalzer click on "Click here to ......."
10:35 andreasbalzer the bold link below that gray table..
10:35 Affenbrotbaum ah there
10:35 Affenbrotbaum ok
10:35 andreasbalzer ok.. then there are two textateas...
10:35 Affenbrotbaum uhm
10:35 Affenbrotbaum and add it at the total end ?
10:35 andreasbalzer of the first one..
10:35 andreasbalzer you can add it at the beginning too..
10:35 andreasbalzer it doesn't matter..
10:36 andreasbalzer it only has to be in the first textarea..
10:36 Affenbrotbaum ok
10:36 Affenbrotbaum I saved it
10:36 andreasbalzer you might want to clear your FE cache now..
10:36 andreasbalzer however: this can end in a performance lost of your server
10:37 Affenbrotbaum ok
10:48 Affenbrotbaum alrigh
10:48 Affenbrotbaum works
10:48 Affenbrotbaum Thank you very much :)
10:48 andreasbalzer ok :)
10:48 andreasbalzer no problem
10:48 Affenbrotbaum Vielen vielen dank und frohe Ostern noch....bye
10:48 andreasbalzer please speal English ;)
10:48 andreasbalzer You too ;)
10:48 andreasbalzer l --> k
10:49 Affenbrotbaum uh policy here...I see.... uhm thanks to all and a happy easter weekend
12:04 uschi hm, i would like to configure rtehtmlarea via extMgr, but because it is a system extension, i cannot do so :-(
12:05 uschi how can i install it local?
12:05 uschi Ries, hope you found a lot of eggs
12:05 Ries uschi: Ooo is it already that late?!?!
12:06 Ries I don't think they know about the eggs in EC
12:06 Ries uschi: do you do anything with images galleries?
12:06 uschi but you do know about eggs or not
12:06 uschi no, unfortunately not yet, Ries
12:07 uschi why are you asking?
12:09 uschi Ries, if i want to have a local install of rtehtmlarea, is it enough to copy it from the sysext folder to localconf/ext?
12:10 Ries I know about the eggs :)
12:10 Ries We used to do that at home when we where young
12:11 uschi i found some this morning even if i am old
12:11 Ries uschi: to make a local install it shoudl work, I think typo3 uses local first, then the sys version
12:11 Ries they don't do eastern really, not like us
12:12 Ries they do have some days of, last friday and tomorrow.... I need to work still :s
12:12 uschi so we do have something in common
12:12 Ries at least something!
12:13 uschi i am still struggling with the rights management
12:14 Ries rights in typo3 is kinda weird... I know
12:14 Ries normally uou would expect multiple groups/users per object
12:14 Ries but they do it the other way around..
12:14 uschi i am asking myself why there are to text with image CEs
12:14 Ries More unix alike
12:15 uschi i installed be_acl this morning
12:15 Ries I thought you told me it doesn't work on your imstallation?
12:15 uschi that was andreasbalzer
12:15 Ries Oooo I see...
12:15 uschi for my installation it *seems* to work
12:16 uschi it must work, wec uses it as well, and that is always a good indicator for a working extension :)
12:17 Ries true
12:18 Ries I don't do teh BE stuff that much lately...
12:18 Ries a bit unfortuntly, on the other hand I like writing extensions better :)
12:18 uschi i would like to get into extension writing, i need to, but there is a lack of time
12:19 uschi i need some $TCA adaptations and an additional pagetype
12:20 Ries I never used pagetypes actually.... why do you need a new page type?
12:20 uschi to identify it for sliding
12:21 Ries content sliding?
12:21 uschi i suppose that is what it is called, but also it means that the menu routines start all over again
12:21 uschi and this pagetype shall only be allowed to certain editors
12:22 uschi and i would like to add a special icon for it, just for usability reasons
12:23 Ries Ahh ok...
12:23 Ries it's for your multi-minis ite thing.. right?
12:23 uschi right
12:24 uschi actually the mini-sites are quite big, occasionally :)
12:24 uschi this is why they have to exist
12:25 uschi wb Ries :)
12:25 Ries thanks
12:26 uschi i realise that one bug in RTE that always annoyed me, is still not fixed
12:28 Ries just ONE in the RTE?
12:28 uschi hm, most of what gets on ones nerves is not the RTE itself but those damned central transformations
12:29 uschi tables are uncomfortable to use, but it works, i would not call that a bug
12:29 uschi no one wants to touch the central parser
12:29 uschi and after having read the sourcecode, i quite well understand why
12:36 Ries uschi: You can turn of teh transformations mosrtly...
12:36 uschi i know, but that again is bad, because if people copy and paste from other websites ....
12:36 uschi or from ms-word documents
12:39 Ries then you can still disallow some tags
12:40 uschi so you think, it might be best to set mode to ts_images or something like that?
12:49 Ries I don't know that mode...
14:41 Rocketjock Happy Easter Everyone
14:42 Rocketjock Happy what every they celebrate on you planet today j0hndeere
14:59 Ries Hey Rocketjock, happer easter dude
14:59 Rocketjock_ RIES!!!!
15:00 Rocketjock_ Ries: Happy Easter
15:02 Rocketjock_ Ries: do they have Easter egg hunts down their?
15:03 Rocketjock_ Does anyone besides the US have Easter egg hunts
15:04 Ries Rocketjock I think most parts of Europe do that aswell..
15:06 Ries Actually, I don't think that the easter egg origionates from the roman..
15:06 af_ hi all
15:06 Ries Hey af_
15:06 Rocketjock_ Ries: so how is things? sorry I haven't been on....working on my network
15:06 af_ I have created some pages, like in modern template building
15:06 Rocketjock_ Hi af_
15:06 Ries Rocketjock things progress... slower then expected but progressing
15:07 af_ now: I have a template in root page, but I would like to have homepage displayed when someone gos on the site url
15:07 af_ how could I do that?
15:07 Rocketjock_ hhhmmm... I don't like this chat program much
15:08 Rocketjock_ af_ create a short cut to the home page from the root page... in the page edit
15:08 Rocketjock_ root page's page edit
15:08 af_ oh I see
15:08 af_ let's try it
15:09 Rocketjock_ Ries: things are always to slow or to fast... feast or famine
15:10 af_ mhhh
15:10 af_ I have not understoof this shortcut icon then
15:10 Rocketjock damn why am i getting disconnected
15:11 af_ How shortcut are created?
15:11 af_ if I click on "create a shortcut of this page" nothing happens
15:13 Rocketjock in the page edit for the root page select short cut... then point it to the home page.... then refre the front end cachesh
15:13 Rocketjock refresh the cache*
15:14 af_ how point it?
15:14 Rocketjock Ries know any good tutorial or books on subnet masks?
15:14 Ries af_: use a shortcut
15:15 af_ I have this icon with richt upper arrow
15:15 af_ click on on it
15:15 af_ it ask me" do you want..", yes
15:15 Ries Rocketjock: I don't know a bout a good tutorial... mostly when you keep teh sub-domain small then you don't have mych problems
15:15 Ries what do you need/want to know?
15:15 af_ that's it, it does not ask to me where is "to"
15:16 Ries af_: the form changes... scrooll a bit down
15:16 Rocketjock called shortcut to page
15:17 Rocketjock Ries: trying to learn...
15:17 Rocketjock Ries: I don't know mush about it
15:17 Rocketjock much*
15:17 Ries Rocketjock: Use /24 as your mask and make sure you use a private IP range... then you are fine
15:17 af_ I see nothing...
15:18 Rocketjock Ries: Ok, Thanks
15:18 af_ no way
15:18 af_ is documented somewhere?
15:19 Rocketjock Ries: what mask should I use for internal (private)?
15:20 Ries /24 is fine
15:20 Ries That means you can connect up to 254 computers
15:20 Rocketjock af_ check out the typo3 videos at typo3.org... thay are a bit dated but still have lot of good inf
15:20 Rocketjock Ries: I see
15:20 Rocketjock info*
15:21 af_ I have the book, I dont' like vidoes
15:21 Ries af_: if you change the page to sortcut
15:21 Ries then it's asked somewhere below in the form.. if not, try to set the form to advanced
15:22 Rocketjock brb
15:23 af_ it's the page menu?
15:23 af_ Page->Root Page
15:23 af_ click left, edit
15:23 Ries af_: set the root page from stnadard to shortcut
15:23 Ries then make teh shortcut?
15:24 af_ ok, I find it
15:25 af_ thanks so much
15:25 af_ I clicked on total different thing
15:25 af_ there is some doc about multilingual sites>?
15:32 Rocketjock af_ there are also check out the mailing list
15:34 pulponair hi dudes
15:34 Rocketjock Ries: if I change my mysql database to innodb do I have to use dbal?
15:34 pulponair Rocketjock: no
15:34 Rocketjock HI pulponair....happy easter
15:34 pulponair Rocketjock: same to you
15:34 Rocketjock PulponairL thanks
15:35 pulponair Rocketjock: note: innodb, isam, myisam are just internal table formats and have nothing todo with the "database driver" itself
15:36 Rocketjock pulponair: good to know
15:36 Rocketjock pulponair: you know if there is any speed benefits?
15:36 pulponair Rocketjock: different table formats provide different featuere sets /pro/cons
15:37 Rocketjock pulponair: I will have to give it a try and see how I like it
15:37 pulponair Rocketjock: not that easy to say....innodb used a different lock mechanism for example...to get a full overview please google for the formats and its benefits
15:38 Rocketjock pulponair: I will Thanks
15:38 pulponair Rocketjock: you are welcome
15:38 Rocketjock :)
15:40 pulponair my girlfriend got me a 4gb usb stick
15:40 pulponair as easter gift :)
15:41 pulponair very usefull :)
15:41 Rocketjock dang..... she sounds like a keeper
15:42 Ries back
15:42 pulponair hi ries
15:42 Ries af_: Yes there are docs about that
15:42 Ries Rocketjock: I will not change as of now to innodb... there where performance problems at some people
15:42 Ries hey pulponair
15:43 pulponair Rocketjock: keeper? for wherefor?
15:43 Ries pulponair: My girls made me breakfast :)
15:43 pulponair Ries: nice ...i cleaned the bathroom ;)
15:45 Rocketjock mine made coffee
15:45 Rocketjock pulponair: if she is willing to buy you tech toys.....
15:46 pulponair Rocketjock: ah ok, yes she is kinda nerdy ..too
15:47 pulponair ohh coffee good idea
15:47 pulponair brb
15:48 Rocketjock Ries: good to know
15:49 Ries Innodb was decided because on persone found out it was faster on his 1mil hit per day tree...
15:50 Ries However as it seems it doesn't seem to be vaster then myiasm from some people, and in fact much slower
15:50 pulponair Ries: on read operations probably yes
15:52 Ries pulponair: I am not sure where it did go wrong...
15:52 Ries what I understood it was so much slower that it was not usable
16:02 uschi hi pulponair :)
16:25 pulponair hi uschi
16:28 uschi pulponair, do you happen to know, whether and if so i can switch of the create new page wizard?
16:29 pulponair uschi: no you cannot
16:29 uschi sh....
16:30 pulponair uschi: at least not without appling some dirty hacks ;)
16:30 uschi means, i have to hack tv itself???
16:31 pulponair uschi: do you wanna turn it due to this default template confusion?
16:31 uschi this, but also there are other templates (page templates and FCEs)
16:32 pulponair uschi: http://bugs.typo3.org/view.php?id=4171
16:32 pulponair uschi: i played arround with it recently
16:34 uschi sounds good
16:34 uschi but does not solve the problem with the forbidden templates
16:34 pulponair uschis: yes try wizardpatch2 ...it is just a quick and dirty but at least it makes things less confusing
16:35 uschi pulponair, but what about the frontpage templates?
16:36 pmk Put this in your Page TSConfig: mod.web_layout.disableNewContentElementWizard=1
16:36 pulponair uschi: what do you mean by "frontpage" templates?
16:36 uschi they show up, although they are denied for that group
16:36 uschi i have a page template for the frontpage of the university site
16:36 uschi this is exclusively for the frontpage
16:36 pulponair uschi: ok got it ...the wizard is quite stupid it doesnt care about permissions
16:37 uschi right
16:37 pulponair uschi: but i guess that could be patched in
16:37 uschi yes, but that has to be by Dmtry
16:37 pulponair uschi: no comment
16:38 pulponair uschi:asked him ;>
16:38 uschi i will
16:38 uschi tv is a great tool, only it comes with little oddities
16:39 pulponair uschi: yes
16:39 pulponair uschi: using it in multi lang. env. is kinda hard ;)
16:40 uschi why?
16:40 pulponair uschi: did you ever tried to assign a group/user to one particular language?
16:41 uschi create alternative page language and off you go
16:41 uschi no, not yet
16:41 pulponair :)
16:41 uschi argghs, another of those problems?
16:41 pulponair not possible :) you always have to assign default lang
16:42 uschi means, my translators can edit the default language as well????
16:42 pulponair otherwise your user wont be able to edit content :) (even if he is allowed to access this particular language)
16:42 pulponair yeah
16:42 pulponair great isnt it ;)
16:42 pulponair uschi: perhaps it is fixed meanwhile but i am not aware of
16:42 uschi does this count for all modes?
16:42 pulponair uschi: afaik yes
16:42 uschi i shall try it out
16:42 pulponair uschi: give it a try
16:43 pulponair uschi: and report back
16:43 uschi will take time, because first i have to configure a group that is only allowed to edit content
16:44 pulponair uschi: http://bugs.typo3.org/view.php?id=5102
16:46 pulponair hah ..i just realized that i have a day off tomorrow :)
16:46 pulponair LALALA
16:46 pulponair great :)
16:46 uschi great easter egg isn't it?
16:46 pulponair yeah
16:47 pulponair the second one this day ;)
16:47 uschi but i hope you will be here anyway
16:47 pulponair hehe dont know but probably yes
16:49 pmk Is anyone using the LightBox extension?
16:52 PaulLS Ries: I was able to get your phpadsnew plugin installed and working, however when I view the page I've inserted the ad element into, it merely shows the URL of the image ad as generated by phpadsnew rather than the actual invocation code.
16:54 pulponair http://www.forbes.com/intelligentinfrastructure/2005/06/16/linux-bsd-unix-cz_dl_0616theo.html
16:54 pulponair hahah
17:14 Zonesoldier HEHEH you have to love Theo... a bit pompous
17:15 Rocketjock if he could make OpenBSD as user friendly as Linux....
17:16 Rocketjock I use FreeBSD and I have a hard time using OpenBSD
17:18 Rocketjock he's just pissed because someone converted a Linux drive to OpenBSD without permission and they blew the whistle on the guy without notifying him first
17:18 Rocketjock made OpenBSD look bad
17:41 Ries Rocketjock: if they could make any OS as freidnly as ubuntu.... I found that freeBSD I still had to configure a lot of stuff by hand
17:48 Ries pulponair: that is a funny story indeed...
17:48 Ries OS systems are like cars.... they need to work and they need to look good
17:48 Ries who cares what is done under the hood...
18:27 tilmanBK Servus - what kind of archive is t3x ?
18:30 uschi something you can import into typo3
18:30 tilmanBK I know
18:30 tilmanBK but I want to unpack it
18:31 uschi Ries??
18:31 uschi read tilmanBK's question
18:31 uschi i do not know, tilmanBK, but i have asked myself the same question
18:31 tilmanBK *g*
18:32 uschi so as a workaround, i have a playground t3, where i can install extensions and then they are unpacked
18:54 Ries uschi: ?
18:54 uschi yes, Ries my dear?
18:54 Ries (13:33:48) uschi: Ries??
18:54 Ries a t3x is as what I undeerstand a zipped serialised array
18:55 uschi ah, there was a question by tilmanBK who is gone now about what format t3x
18:55 uschi ah, ok, and what is t3d?
18:56 uschi and can i just unzip/untar them?
18:57 Ries uschi: I don't believe you can simply unzip and untar them
18:57 uschi so you are none believer :)
19:07 Ries uschi: when it comes to t3X yes...
19:08 uschi :)
19:27 Rocketjock I see debian 4.0 is out
19:28 Rocketjock have to install that in a vm ans test drive it
19:28 Rocketjock and*
19:30 Rocketjock Ries: didn't you use to use debian ... or was that gentoo?
19:31 Rocketjock Ries: before ubuntu that is
19:43 Ries Rocketjock: I always used Debian untill I felt I was keep on updating and finding repositories for new software
19:43 Ries so I started to use ubuntu
20:43 Rocketjock_ .
20:59 andreasbalzer hi!
20:59 andreasbalzer can somebody tell me, how to get that image positioned right? http://www.ess-erfurt.de/613.0.html
21:12 andreasbalzer some css guys here?
21:13 andreasbalzer then I'll ask tomorrow again ;)
21:26 Dolph_dk Can i change Wamp to use my Ip I get from my ISP ?
21:26 Dolph_dk insted of the local ip (127.0.0.1)
22:17 tchang hi there
22:17 tchang is it possible to write a condition on a constant ?
22:18 tchang [PIDinRootline = {$this.is.the.page.id}]
22:18 tchang this is not working, so how can I write this and thus avoid "magic numbers" in my typoscript ?
23:05 tilmanBK Does somebody use/has experience with jm_gallery? I have to implement the random view mode, but in default it shows 6 pictures, I need only 4 to display. There's nothing in the documentation about. The template doesn't controle the amount of pictures.

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