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00:35 brain_xy anybody alive?
00:41 Ries Hey brain
00:41 brain_xy hi ries :)
00:42 brain_xy ries.. could it be that some extensions are beeing removed from the repository?
00:44 Ries normally that will not happen
00:45 Ries But I know TER2 is not stable...
00:45 Ries one of my extensions was set back to a 0.0.1 version, while I was already at 1.0.x
00:47 brain_xy hmhm.. i ask because yesterday i looked for an extension called page_php_content .. and nothing was found
00:51 Ries brain_xy: look for lumophp or something like that
00:51 Ries I 'think' that extension was removed for security reasons... not 100% sure that
00:51 brain_xy jap.. i know..
00:51 Ries but lumo is there
00:51 brain_xy oh ok.. maybe one reason yes..
00:54 brain_xy ah.. finally :)
00:56 brain-xy hey ries.. did you buy that fligh simulator stuff?
00:57 Ries yup...
00:57 brain-xy how is it?
00:58 Ries great... differcukt
00:58 Ries I need to buy a good stearing wheel still
00:58 Ries but really realistic
00:58 brain-xy :)
00:59 Ries I got all DVD's with the world aswell
00:59 Ries so I do have all city's mountains etc
00:59 brain-xy cool :)
00:59 Ries I can fly in holland quite nice ;)
00:59 brain-xy :D
00:59 Ries also quito is in there, but not that much info in EC
01:00 Ries I talked to numeroius peopel, anf they all say x-plane flights much much much more realistic then FS
01:01 brain-xy hm.. when i tried that demo i could fly loopings with that jumbo :P .. if this is possible in reallife? .. well.. there is only one way to find it out :)
01:02 Ries technically a jumbo can do a looping
01:02 Ries practically teh flight computer should disallow that
01:03 brain-xy yes.. wise.. :)
01:03 Ries I just wonder this myself, what do you do with typo3?
01:04 brain-xy well.. what all people do.. work with it to build websites :P
01:04 brain-xy and i try to work more and more with the api
01:05 brain-xy hey ries.. you do 3d stuff?
01:07 Ries brain-xy: some... but not fancy stuff
01:07 Ries I use 3D mainly for design work
01:07 Ries I am working on building my loudspeakers now... The design is done
01:08 brain-xy cool :) .. well.. i want to have more time so i can do some things in maya again.. grml
01:08 brain-xy wahaha :) .. mahna mahna :D
01:09 Ries brain-xy: I never used maya myself.... I used blender a coupld of times
01:10 Ries But mostly I use pro-engineer
01:10 Ries http://www.rvantwisk.nl/fileadmin/images/speaker.jpg
01:10 Ries That one is created in pro-engineer
01:10 Ries There rendering is not fancy or anything
01:10 Ries But the complete speaker is build parametric
01:11 brain-xy looks like your house is beeing booooomed away soon :)
01:11 Ries heheh, no these on create a really nice solid dray bass
01:11 Ries dry
01:11 Ries it goes really low.... there is a internal speaker inside which you cannot see right now
01:12 Ries total power is around 80 Watt I think
01:15 brain-xy btw.. maybe nobody has needed that but is it planned to give a translated page from type external link a different link for every translation?
01:15 Ries I don't know
01:15 Ries brain-xy: My question still stands... how do you use typo3?
01:17 brain-xy oehm.. like i said.. building websites .. :) .. how do you mean? .. you mean if i develope extensions too .. not just using it like a secretary? :)
01:18 Ries heheh yes...
01:18 Ries for work? for fun? freelance?
01:18 brain-xy for work..
01:19 brain-xy for 2 more months i'm a trainee ... buah :(
01:20 Rocketjock_ brian-xy: he means are you a rival in trying to take over the world with typo3
01:20 brain-xy whaha :D
01:21 Rocketjock_ :p
01:21 brain-xy no i don't try to takeover the world with it :)
01:23 Rocketjock_ Ries: my main gripe with ubuntu is the gui... gui shouldn't be on servers.... now if I had downloaded the server version instead of the desktop version.....
01:24 Rocketjock_ RIES: I AM SO STUPID SOMETIMES :(
01:24 Rocketjock_ to funny
01:26 Rocketjock_ they need to change their website.... put up big flashing letters that say ... server version over here stupid
01:26 brain-xy *gape*
01:26 brain-xy :P
01:27 brain-xy omg i'm getting fat
01:27 Rocketjock_ hehehe
01:27 Rocketjock_ go outside.....
01:28 Rocketjock_ get exercise
01:31 brain-xy outside is sun.. and weird people..
01:32 Rocketjock_ to true
01:35 Ries brb guy, I just had dinner
01:35 Ries Now need to do teh dishes
01:36 Ries Rocketjock_: Ubuntu does have a server version, I run a 64Bits version of ubuntu that cones without X installed (unless you want to have it ofcourse)
01:41 Rocketjock_ hehehe I need to slow down and read
01:46 Ries hehehe it happens
01:46 Ries actually, we don't run unbuntu's kernel, but we run XEN's version
01:49 Rocketjock_ brb
02:27 Rocketjock_ nite
06:48 FloLeBlanc hi all
08:08 FloLeBlanc hi uschi
08:09 uschi morning FloLeBlanc :)
08:10 FloLeBlanc can anyone tell me how the direct_mail "adress" lists are handled? is this a seperate table from the users table? (I want to mail all old users but want them to register new, so I'd need an adress table not linked to fe_users)
08:15 uschi absolutely no idea, FloLeBlanc, i am fighting with setfacl and getfacl currently
08:16 FloLeBlanc what's that?
08:16 uschi access control lists under linux/unix
08:16 FloLeBlanc uh :)
08:16 uschi i have a root server but hardly any knowledge
08:17 FloLeBlanc unfortunately I'm much of a windows pimp too :)
08:17 uschi i have someone who administers the server, but he obviously is still asleep
08:17 uschi developer days that is?
08:17 FloLeBlanc yep
08:17 uschi it is a pity that i cannot go
08:18 FloLeBlanc why?
08:18 FloLeBlanc because you don't live in vienna? :)
08:18 uschi other things to do
08:18 uschi and yes, i do not live in vienna, but could find a place where i could stay
08:18 uschi question of time
08:18 uschi next dds i will be there, hopefully
08:19 FloLeBlanc sorry seemed to incorrectly expressmyself : I'm attending the microsoft big days on wed hehe
08:19 uschi iiiiiiiiiiii
08:19 FloLeBlanc t3 dev days are in karlsruhe always aren't they?
08:20 uschi not sure
08:21 FloLeBlanc don't know why all ppl hate ms that much.. at least they didn't forge their market shares like the apple guy did :)
08:22 uschi well i am a microsoft user, so i should not complain
08:23 FloLeBlanc well imho it's pretty insane what those ppl provide these days... sql2005 is free f.e. and you even can distribute it with your projects for free :) they did a quite good job on the reporting services too as far as I could see yet
08:24 uschi i do not use ms on that level
09:25 andreasbalzer good morning!
09:27 FloLeBlanc hi andreas
09:27 andreasbalzer hi :)
10:06 leo I've got a problem getting a typo3 site on debian, first it couldn't create a database, so I had to do that manually, at the next step I'm trying to import a database, but it just says "Invalid default value for 'uid'"
10:07 leo I'm using the typo3-site-installer
10:17 FloLeBlanc any suggestions on what is a good captcha font?
10:25 Denyerec Lo Lo
10:25 uschi hi Denyerec :)
10:25 Denyerec hey uschi
10:25 uschi i need a server admin
10:32 Denyerec UH OH uschi
10:33 Denyerec what do you need to do to your server?
10:33 uschi setfacl
12:25 Spriter Login-error or session timed-out
12:25 Spriter No user logged in! Sorry, I can't proceed then!
12:25 Spriter new install of 4.1.1: keep getting error No user logged in when trying to log in back end. Any idea
12:27 Spriter Hello
12:35 FloLeBlanc does your browser acceppt cookies?
12:39 Ries FloLeBlanc: I do.....
12:39 FloLeBlanc ries: that was the try of an answer to spriter :)
12:40 FloLeBlanc <Spriter> No user logged in! Sorry, I can't proceed then!
12:44 Ries FloLeBlanc: Ooooo.... I thought we talked about cookies..... ;)
12:46 FloLeBlanc not yet.. you want to talk with me about cookies ries? :)
12:46 FloLeBlanc ries: what type of cookie do you like best?
12:52 Ries FloLeBlanc: chocolate cookies are the best, made with dark chocolate
12:52 FloLeBlanc Ries: a good choice, I also like them
12:53 FloLeBlanc I think I already asked this but can there be any harm in deleting all fields with the "deleted" flag from the DB?
12:53 FloLeBlanc I think there's a lot of junk in my db from testing
12:53 Denyerec Hey Ries
12:53 Ries hey Denyerec
12:54 Ries FloLeBlanc: it cannot do harm, however you might get missing links error if you don't delete them from all tables
12:54 FloLeBlanc ries: hmm.. is there an extension which does the job for me?
12:57 Ries I think so
12:57 FloLeBlanc ok so nothing "approved by ries" :)
12:58 Ries there are some cleanup DB extensions
12:58 Ries personalyl I never cared much...
12:58 Ries it's just a couple of DB I am saving
12:59 Ries DB=MB
13:04 Denyerec Doesn't affect stabiliity really does it?
13:18 FloLeBlanc denyerec: but the db size? :)
13:18 Denyerec True.
13:18 Denyerec But just how much testing have you been doing ?! :)
13:18 FloLeBlanc denyerec: none *G*
13:19 FloLeBlanc but I know how afraid of db size I am when developing with sql2005 and vb.net hehe
13:25 Remowylliams Hello everyone. Are there alternate editors that work with the backend? I'm having difficulty breaking lines where I want and such.
13:25 Ries Remowylliams: shift-enter breaks a line, enter create a paragraph
13:28 Remowylliams Ries: thank you that will go a long way to coping with this. It's mostly a question of learning, I bought Building Websites with TYPO3, but I haven't read anything about special keys and such to use with the editor. Thanks.
13:32 Ries it's common among all editors
13:32 Ries Word does the same
13:32 Ries should this work? ini_set('allow_url_fopen', 0);
13:32 Remowylliams Is that why it drives me nuts?
13:33 Remowylliams Alright maybe it's not the leading cause. but I do so hate anything that tries to be smarter than pico. LOL
13:34 Remowylliams editor wise
13:34 Remowylliams Ries: thank you very much.
13:48 FloLeBlanc ries: I don't know :)
13:49 FloLeBlanc but in case you want to know if your typing is correct: allow_url_fopen is the name to go yes
13:57 Denyerec testing
13:57 Denyerec 123
13:58 FloLeBlanc gnitset
13:58 FloLeBlanc 321
13:58 FloLeBlanc !dlobok rorrim eht fo mitciv a neeb evah uoy on ho :cereyneD
14:05 andreasbalzer some CSS 'experts' around? ;)
14:05 FloLeBlanc andreasbalzer: you can always try :)
14:05 andreasbalzer cool ;)
14:05 FloLeBlanc does someone know how to specify the first line in the direct_mail extension when importing from csv? seems to ignore every line I try
14:05 FloLeBlanc user;email;module_sys_dmail_html[=1] should do it shouldn't it?
14:06 andreasbalzer why is the image placed so ugly? http://www.ess-erfurt.de/index.php?id=611
14:06 andreasbalzer same here http://www.ess-erfurt.de/index.php?id=612
14:06 andreasbalzer and here http://www.ess-erfurt.de/index.php?id=613
14:07 andreasbalzer what do I have to add in my css to get it working?
14:07 FloLeBlanc width="974" height="200"
14:07 FloLeBlanc in your image code
14:08 FloLeBlanc the image seems NOT to be 974 x 200 and gets stretched => ugly
14:08 andreasbalzer no, i mean that image in the main column ;)
14:08 andreasbalzer below Beleuchtung und Klima
14:08 andreasbalzer :D
14:08 FloLeBlanc what's wrong with that image?
14:09 andreasbalzer the border doesn't fit at all and the image is positioned...... :-/
14:09 andreasbalzer in IE and Fx
14:11 Denyerec mm
14:11 andreasbalzer i create a screenshot...
14:11 Denyerec andreasbalzer
14:11 Denyerec What do you want it to look lik ?
14:12 andreasbalzer nice borders (directly around the image)
14:12 andreasbalzer and the next element should be shown below and not behind the image...
14:12 Denyerec instead of all the whitespace around it
14:12 andreasbalzer yes
14:12 Denyerec so that green comment block should have wrapped text?
14:13 andreasbalzer ?`
14:13 andreasbalzer what means wrapped text?
14:13 Denyerec On multiple lines
14:13 Denyerec not all on one long oen.
14:13 andreasbalzer yes
14:13 Denyerec Wait a sec
14:13 Denyerec your img block is *INSIDE* a <p>
14:14 Denyerec Did you insert that with the RTE ?
14:14 andreasbalzer no
14:16 Denyerec well I can tell you now that the csc-textpic styles are responsible
14:16 Denyerec so you're going to have to override them in your own CSS
14:16 Denyerec and then set a width on the image container
14:16 Denyerec then it should look OK
14:16 andreasbalzer I already do so..
14:16 andreasbalzer ess-erfurt.de/?type=1
14:16 FloLeBlanc or you set the border in the TS around the image when you only want to have a border around the image
14:17 andreasbalzer btw: here's a screenshot of the pages http://ess-erfurt.de/typo3_org/bildproblem.png
14:17 andreasbalzer mainly I would like to remove the red spaces...
14:18 Denyerec andreasbalzer
14:18 Denyerec the solution is simple :)
14:18 andreasbalzer redo my css
14:18 andreasbalzer i know
14:19 Denyerec nono
14:19 Denyerec add clear:both; to the h2's in your content div
14:19 Denyerec that solves the overlap issue
14:19 andreasbalzer hm.. i'll try
14:19 Denyerec then you need to sort the width out.
14:19 Denyerec .csc-textpic.imagewrap {} will let you set a width on it of 200px
14:20 Denyerec but SOMETHING is generating a wider width, still looking for the cause
14:21 Denyerec DIV.csc-textpic-imagewrap { width: 200px; } will sort the width out.
14:21 Denyerec Unsure why it's behaving like that, perhaps you need to specify a width on the text w/image image element
14:21 Denyerec I don't know...
14:22 andreasbalzer ok.. the width and overlapping things work. Thanks :)
14:22 andreasbalzer now there's only the text problem left
14:35 Denyerec text problem ?
14:35 andreasbalzer I have just changed the background color by now, so that it doesn't look strange..
14:35 Denyerec AHh
14:35 andreasbalzer text problem .. well the white space around the image caption
14:35 Denyerec the margins around the text
14:35 Denyerec one mo
14:35 andreasbalzer the already have margins and paddings to 0...
14:36 Denyerec that's .csc-caption { margin: 0px !important; padding: 12px 0 !important; }
14:36 andreasbalzer well I have another question.. Can I break those big filenames somehow on http://www.ess-erfurt.de/index.php?id=613 ?
14:36 Denyerec And you should be good to go
14:36 FloLeBlanc and perhaps you should increase the lineheight
14:38 andreasbalzer ok.. the text things work now.. a biiiig thanks :)
14:54 FloLeBlanc whew... *imported 3803 users in adress list* does anyone know for how many backend users t3 is "stable"? :)
15:03 FloLeBlanc andreasbalzer: you can't just rename the docs?
15:06 FloLeBlanc have a nice evening all
15:08 Denyerec you're welcome
15:14 brosment Hello, everybody. My company is developing new project and we need TYPO3 developers. We just need to set up some existing extension and develope two new extensions. Anybody want to know more?
15:17 Ries brosment: I might know a guy that needs some work
15:17 brosment ok, Ries, please give him my email ik{at}brosment.com
15:18 Ries brosment: See your PM
15:18 Ries brosment: got m PM?
15:24 gerards alright guys (good morning btw), what's the best source code file comparison tool you recommend?
15:27 Denyerec I use the diff that comes with Tortoise SVN
15:31 Denyerec REALLY not enjoying this silly CSS build at the moment.
15:49 j0hndeere Good morning, earth humans.
17:00 TeamColtra #e107
17:00 TeamColtra damn...
19:06 uschi just filling in this survey for typo3
19:06 uschi am i a beginner or advanced?
19:17 uschi hey folks, gerards, j0hndeere, koomi, Denyerec and the rest, know this one? http://survey.typo3.org/index.php
19:18 koomi nope. is it new?
19:18 uschi yes
19:26 neostar hi
19:26 koomi lol.
19:27 koomi i couldn't levae my email - told me it was not filled out as long as i checked "yes"
19:48 uschi koomi, i do not think that all the questions make a reasonable choice
19:48 uschi i do not find the form handling really convenient
19:48 uschi but i do appreciate that there is such a survey
19:49 andreasbalzer ?
19:49 uschi the usability survey, andreasbalzer
19:49 andreasbalzer what's wrong with it?
19:49 uschi who has developed those questions?
19:49 andreasbalzer me
19:50 andreasbalzer (some of them)
19:50 uschi oh, great, we have to talk then
19:50 andreasbalzer mainly the hci team
19:50 andreasbalzer let's start ;)
19:50 uschi no, i am trying to upgrade the datenwolken
19:51 uschi and i have one of those meetings on wednesday, where i have to explain, why the hell the development team is so fucking slow
19:51 uschi so, we really should meet!
19:51 uschi at some point in our lives
19:51 andreasbalzer :)
19:51 andreasbalzer which development team?
19:51 uschi university page
19:52 andreasbalzer ah
19:52 andreasbalzer better oh...
19:52 andreasbalzer :D
19:52 uschi better what?
19:52 andreasbalzer not 'ah', but 'oh' ;)
19:53 uschi in fact, the developer TEAM mainly consists of uschi in terms of ts, webhosting and other things
19:53 uschi and i am fed up with this
19:53 andreasbalzer hm..
19:54 uschi it is not the fault of the other team members, it is the fault of their bosses and the leading institutions of the university as a whole
19:54 andreasbalzer did you make something like a GANT chart?
19:55 uschi but anyway, if i get somewhere with this damned university page, i would like to join either the hci or the documentation team
19:55 andreasbalzer the hci team needs good coders at the moment
19:55 andreasbalzer and some designers to create more mockups
19:55 uschi the rest of the team would not even know what a GANT chart is
19:56 andreasbalzer ah.. ;)
19:56 uschi and no, i will not do one!
19:56 andreasbalzer I have the same problems in my school team..
19:56 uschi yes, and that is a real life situation
19:57 uschi what i will do now, by updating the datenwolken, is to provide an environment, where the group can communicate
19:57 uschi between ourselves and with others
19:57 andreasbalzer the current question here is: "Why should we fill out those DAM pages, if we were able to just upload a file and use it".. (editors) in addition to "Andreas, you have to do something! TYPO3 is constantly taking our webspace because of this huge uploads folder!!" (admins)
19:57 andreasbalzer what is "Datenwolken"?
19:57 andreasbalzer Tag clouds?
19:58 uschi no, my little page i set up in order to learn typo3
19:58 andreasbalzer ah
19:58 uschi http://www.datenwolken.de
19:59 andreasbalzer smoking?
19:59 uschi sure :)
19:59 andreasbalzer why do so many coders smoke, except me?
20:00 andreasbalzer where do you have your Blindtext from?
20:00 uschi cannot remember, but i do have in 4 languages now :)
20:00 andreasbalzer ;)
20:00 andreasbalzer it's awesome :)
20:01 uschi yes, it is
20:01 uschi so, and now i have to look up how to copy a directory recursively via the shell
20:01 andreasbalzer no FTP?
20:01 uschi it is on the server
20:02 uschi and: yes, no FTP, only sftp
20:02 uschi and then i will try out how that works with setfacl and getfacl and default acls for gentoo
20:03 uschi this is what i hate at the university project
20:03 uschi it is not my job to administer a server or mysql
20:03 uschi i do not have the appropriate skills
20:04 andreasbalzer 10[22:04] uschi changed to andreasbalzer: 01this is what i hate at the school website project
20:04 andreasbalzer 10[22:04] uschi changed to andreasbalzer: 01it shouldn't be my job to administer a server or mysql
20:04 andreasbalzer 10:D
20:04 uschi what?
20:04 andreasbalzer i have the same problem here
20:04 uschi you are in the same situation
20:04 uschi poor guy
20:05 andreasbalzer i only guess with the difference that my school headmaster is A) constantly asking me, why the page does not load in a nanosecond and B asking me, whether we really have to use TYPO3 and can't just use simple HTML...
20:05 andreasbalzer ah and c... We have to pay for the server ourself...
20:06 uschi yes, this is a problem at the university too
20:06 uschi mind you, we do have the machines there
20:06 uschi it is only, that they are not installed
20:06 uschi and the only person who can do so is completely overworked
20:07 andreasbalzer well.. if I could convince my headmaster, I would have about 120 computers that could be arranged in a cluster ;)
20:09 uschi rubbish
20:09 uschi even schools have the means to have a dedicated or rootserver nowadays
20:09 andreasbalzer no.. they are running about 70% of the day
20:09 andreasbalzer well they do have 120 computers (1 GHZ and better each) and three servers (Windows 2003, Linux)
20:09 uschi and as far as your mates are concerned who do not want to put in meta data: tell them off
20:10 andreasbalzer the only problem: the servers are a little bit slow and they don't open the network for requests from internet
20:10 uschi you do not need so many servers for a school's homepage
20:10 andreasbalzer right, but at least one very good
20:10 uschi not even that
20:11 andreasbalzer or a few that are connected in a way, that there are always two online..
20:11 andreasbalzer well, our T3 installation could take 1 GB of ram.. but we currently only have 256 MB for it
20:11 uschi two, one mirroring the other
20:11 uschi this in fact, is ridiculous
20:11 andreasbalzer yes.. but our school computers are not online the whole time
20:12 andreasbalzer they are configured in a way, that some go offline at night and some go online to check for virues, etc..
20:12 andreasbalzer 04[22:12] andreasbalzer: 01well, our T3 installation could take 1 GB of ram.. but we currently only have 256 MB for it --> 10[22:12] uschi: 01this in fact, is ridiculous ?
20:13 uschi of course this is ridiculous
20:13 andreasbalzer why should it be?
20:13 uschi because that is not enough for a mysql-server
20:13 andreasbalzer ;)
20:13 andreasbalzer ah.. you mean it in this way..
20:14 andreasbalzer right, our mysql server runs at a very critical level. It usualy crashes because of memory problems every week once or twice..
20:15 andreasbalzer we normally have about 10 MB of free ram when the server is running
20:15 andreasbalzer so it's quite problematic for us and we need a better server..
20:16 uschi perhaps we can manage to meet next week?
20:16 andreasbalzer yes, that could work
20:16 uschi do not know about free time yet, semester starts tomorrow
20:16 andreasbalzer bad wording of mee. it could be possible.. ;)
20:21 uschi andreasbalzer, do you know the rutabaland?
20:21 andreasbalzer no
20:21 andreasbalzer what is it?
20:21 uschi http://www.megpalffy.org/rutabagaland/
20:21 uschi she has more interesting projects, and she is VERY good about wording
20:22 andreasbalzer cool
20:23 uschi http://www.megpalffy.org/techdok/index.html
20:25 uschi it has to be like rutabagaland
20:31 uschi bedlamhotel :)))))
20:31 andreasbalzer ;)
20:31 uschi what was that grin for, andreasbalzer ?
20:32 andreasbalzer aem... nothing...... ;)
20:32 uschi shit, i patched the old RTE, and i do not know anymore, where
20:33 andreasbalzer htmlarea.js ?
20:33 bedlamhotel Good afternoon :)
20:33 andreasbalzer the bug with firefox 2.0.0.3?
20:33 andreasbalzer hi
20:33 uschi no, keeping my entities, that was
20:33 andreasbalzer some hint:
20:33 andreasbalzer T3 module DB Check
20:33 andreasbalzer Full search
20:34 uschi good evening sir bedlamhotel :)
20:34 uschi no, i changed the js-code
20:34 andreasbalzer ah
20:34 uschi and the php-code at some point
20:34 uschi will have to find it in my local chaos
21:42 Olegs hi all.
21:42 Olegs Getting a lot of SQL errors after installing TIMTAB
21:43 Olegs I'll appreciate some help
21:43 andreasbalzer hi ;)
21:43 Olegs seems like uid is empty - SELECT * FROM tt_news WHERE uid = AND ...
21:43 andreasbalzer did you clear BE cache?
21:43 andreasbalzer and FE cache?
21:44 Olegs lots of times
21:44 andreasbalzer do the errors occur on every page, or only on those pages where you have timtab plugins added?
21:44 Olegs plugin.tt_news.pid_list = 751 is added
21:44 andreasbalzer Did you include static templates if there are any?
21:44 Olegs not timtab plugin, a guestbook plugin
21:44 Olegs as described in manual
21:45 Olegs static template included in root page of the website
21:45 andreasbalzer do you have tt_news installed?
21:45 Olegs yes 2.4.0 and upgraded to 2.5. 0 with no difference
21:45 Olegs tt_news working OK
21:45 Olegs ve_guestbook installed too
21:45 andreasbalzer have you done _every_ step as described in the manual of timtab?
21:46 Olegs there are not many steps... let's see.
21:47 andreasbalzer 04[23:45] andreasbalzer: 01do the errors occur on every page, or only on those pages where you have timtab plugins added?
21:47 andreasbalzer ?
21:47 andreasbalzer and next question: did you set all relevant constants in your template?
21:48 Olegs 23:45 - on the page where two ve_guestbook plugins installed.
21:48 Olegs only
21:48 andreasbalzer oh sry
21:48 andreasbalzer ok
21:48 andreasbalzer try what happens if you hide on of those
21:48 Olegs yes I did set them both in Contstand Editor and in template TS constants
21:48 Olegs tried that
21:49 Olegs they both produce errors
21:49 Olegs hiding one reduces amount of sql errors.
21:49 Olegs the only difference between my setup and manual
21:50 Olegs is that the manual has "Blog posts" icon as blue sysfolder with small pencil and paper icon
21:50 Olegs I don't know what it is, so I 've created regular sysfolder.
21:51 andreasbalzer hm..
21:51 andreasbalzer ve_guestbook might be incompatible to the newest version of tt_news
21:51 andreasbalzer but I don't know that, as I don't use it..
21:52 andreasbalzer you might want to contact the extension author,
21:52 andreasbalzer ask in T3 mailinglists
21:52 andreasbalzer or post a bug report (bugs.typo3.org)
21:52 Olegs I will try, thank you andreasbalzer .
21:52 andreasbalzer no problem
21:53 Olegs thanks for helping.
21:53 Olegs I'll post the solution if I find one.
21:54 andreasbalzer can you please post a whole error
21:54 andreasbalzer ?
21:57 a_depretis hi everybody ... do you know a way to have two tt_news plugins on one page using the LATEST mode where each of them points to a different archive page (archiveTypoLink.parameter)?
22:02 Olegs andreasbalzer: paste it into the channel?
22:03 Olegs a_depretis: create two elements using typoscript
22:03 andreasbalzer i don't think that many people would feel angry about it at this time..
22:03 Olegs lib.ttnews1 < plugin.tt_news ... lib.ttnews2 < plugin.tt_news , then config them separately
22:03 Olegs andreasbalzer: here ------------------------------
22:03 Olegs uid = AND tt_news.deleted=0 AND tt_news.t3ver_state!=1 AND tt_news.hidden=0 AND (tt_news.starttime<=1176156282) AND (tt_news.endtime=0 OR tt_news.endtime>1176156282) AND (tt_news.fe_group='' OR tt_news.fe_group IS NULL OR tt_news.fe_group='0' OR (tt_news.fe_group LIKE '%,0,%' OR tt_news.fe_group LIKE '0,%' OR tt_news.fe_group LIKE '%,0' OR tt_news.fe_group='0') OR (tt_news.fe_group LIKE...
22:03 Olegs debug_backtrace require // tslib_fe->intincscript // tslib_cobj->user // tslib_cobj->calluserfunction // call_user_method // tx_veguestbook_pi1->main // tx_veguestbook_pi1->displaylist // tx_veguestbook_pi1->getlistcontent // tx_veguestbook_pi1->getitemmarkerarray // tx_timtab_fe->extraitemmarkerprocessor // tx_timtab_fe->main // tx_timtab_fe->substitutemarkers // tx_timtab_fe->getcurrentpost // t
22:03 Olegs caller t3lib_DB::exec_SELECTquery
22:03 Olegs ERROR You have an error in your SQL syntax; check the manual that corresponds to your MySQL server version for the right syntax to use near 'AND tt_news.deleted=0 AND tt_news.t3ver_state!=1 AND tt_news.hid
22:03 Olegs lastBuiltQuery SELECT *
22:03 Olegs FROM tt_news
22:03 Olegs WHERE
22:03 Olegs ...'%,-1,%' OR tt_news.fe_group LIKE '-1,%' OR tt_news.fe_group LIKE '%,-1' OR tt_news.fe_group='-1'))
22:03 Olegs 3lib_db->exec_selectgetrows // t3lib_db->exec_selectquery // t3lib_db->debug
22:04 Olegs thats one of them ---------------------------------------
22:04 andreasbalzer ok.. thanks
22:04 Olegs uid is empty
22:05 andreasbalzer i guess your page is not http://www.janno.nl/wintersport2006.html?
22:06 andreasbalzer i'm sorry, but there is no solution findable via Google..
22:09 Olegs andreasbalzer: I've tried to google it before asking here; there was one German guy who had the same problem
22:09 Olegs he asked in January
22:09 Olegs his site still shows the same error :(
22:09 bedlamhotel olegs: suggestion: go to the EM, and check that the extensions' database tables and fields have been created correctly.
22:10 Olegs let's see
22:11 bedlamhotel I've occasionally seen tables and fields fail to be created properly when installing extensions. No idea why, and it's not common, but...
22:11 Olegs Code warnings:
22:11 Olegs (developer-relevant) No XCLASS inclusion code found in file "3rdparty/lib.ixr.php"
22:12 Olegs I guess it's not that
22:12 bedlamhotel no. That stuff is for the extension developer. There's no prompt to update the database when you go to the EM and click on the name of an installed extension?
22:13 Olegs no , I've checked timtab, ve_guestbook and tt_news
22:13 Denyerec Bleh
22:14 Denyerec Run out of steam on my latest CSS build.
22:14 Denyerec :(
22:16 bedlamhotel olegs: no real idea then. If you are absolutely sure you've followed the directions for setting up timtab properly, AND if this is a new or test site, I'd drop the tables relevant to the affected extensions and try again. I know for certain that timtab runs (and is quite simple to set up) with TYPO3 4.0.5 and 4.1.1...
22:17 Olegs bedlamhotel: I am reinstalling it
22:17 Olegs no info at google, but there are a few sites with the same error :)
22:18 bedlamhotel olegs: last resort: try from scratch (i.e. no extensions installed except the ones you need for timtab)...
22:21 Olegs heh
22:21 Olegs sure
22:27 Olegs hmm getting good results
22:27 bedlamhotel olegs: interesting. From which approach?
22:28 Olegs bedlamhotel: removed "page with teaser" from guestbook plugin - 3 error messages instead of 6
22:28 Olegs now I'm going to clean up constants
22:39 a_depretis elgs: sorry, was afk .... what to you mean by creating two objects ... like foo1 < plugin.tt_news and foo2 < plugin.tt_news ?
22:40 a_depretis olegs i meant ;-)
22:40 Olegs bedlamhotel: I managed to remove errors caused by ve_guestbook:LIST plugin
22:40 Olegs and ve_guestbook:FORM plugin displays 2 errors instead of 3
22:41 Olegs so I guess...
22:41 Olegs a_depretis: you may create 2 typoscript objects
22:41 Olegs and then assign them to page
22:42 bedlamhotel olegs: in that case, I'd guess something is still not configured correctly. Ensure that the tt_news plugins, for example, have values for single display page etc...
22:42 Olegs yes I'll continue tomorrow
22:42 Olegs good results anyway
22:42 a_depretis olegs: I don't exactly know what u mean by creating typoscript objects ... could you eventually give me an example so I can understand better?
22:42 Olegs a_depretis: see private message
22:45 Olegs bye
22:45 Olegs bedlamhotel: thank you and goodbye
22:46 bedlamhotel ciao.
22:48 dalma Hello everyone! I need to create a menu in the form of an Unordered List (<UL>), It is working, but the menu show the Page Title and I need to show the page SUBTITLE also. How can I do that? Many thanks in advance. My code is:
22:48 dalma lib.mainMenu = HMENU
22:48 dalma lib.subMenu.special = browse
22:48 dalma lib.mainMenu.entryLevel = 0
22:48 dalma lib.mainMenu.1 = TMENU
22:48 dalma lib.mainMenu.1.NO {
22:48 dalma allWrap = <li>|<p class="Footer"> [SUBTITLE MUST BE HERE] </p></li>
22:48 dalma }
22:51 dalma I've seen something like allWrap.field = subtitle, but then I loss the wrapping, I searched the TSref but I cant find/understand how to do this.
22:55 bedlamhotel dalma, I can't take time to help out in here at the moment, but I have written a short article about how to use the TSref to figure things like this out at www.typo3apprentice.com/howto/rtfm/
22:56 dalma Thanks Bedlamhotel! I will take a look.
23:30 neostar I'm a bit tired, isn't usually a template applied down to all child pages?
23:31 neostar because I get an error: "Couldn't find a Data Structure set for table/row "tt_content:4"." though I've set the template in the root page, and the root page displays fine
23:53 tansta morning guys :)

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