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01:57 yakoi hi there
01:58 yakoi what channel should I go to if I want to talk/ask about copyrights, licenses and code re-use ?
01:57 yakoi hi there
01:58 yakoi what channel should I go to if I want to talk/ask about copyrights, licenses and code re-use ?
02:00 yakoi in the meanwhile, I'll make my questionning a bit more TYPO3-oriented and ask if those of you who write extensions usualy keep the copyright or give it away to customers
02:02 gentooma yakoi: although I'm not the typical extension developer I usually stick to GPL v.2 -but I always talk about that to the costumers in first place
02:03 yakoi this is the license, not the copyright
02:04 yakoi copyright is owned by the entity/person who wrote the code unless that right is given away
02:00 yakoi in the meanwhile, I'll make my questionning a bit more TYPO3-oriented and ask if those of you who write extensions usualy keep the copyright or give it away to customers
02:02 gentooma yakoi: although I'm not the typical extension developer I usually stick to GPL v.2 -but I always talk about that to the costumers in first place
02:03 yakoi this is the license, not the copyright
02:04 yakoi copyright is owned by the entity/person who wrote the code unless that right is given away
02:05 gentooma yakoi: okay in this case I usually retain my owner ship - but on the other hand I almost give up my owner ship due to the licence
02:08 yakoi yes, you're right in a sens, and that's how I saw it. But the copyright gives you the right to change the license at any time
02:08 yakoi now then again, anyone can fork the code and go by from there
02:09 yakoi but then, what about the copyrights once you're there ? what if you want to use that forked extension for a new customer ?
02:05 gentooma yakoi: okay in this case I usually retain my owner ship - but on the other hand I almost give up my owner ship due to the licence
02:08 yakoi yes, you're right in a sens, and that's how I saw it. But the copyright gives you the right to change the license at any time
02:08 yakoi now then again, anyone can fork the code and go by from there
02:09 yakoi but then, what about the copyrights once you're there ? what if you want to use that forked extension for a new customer ?
02:10 yakoi Now what if I am a 'sub-contractor' (what is the correct term for this in english anyway?) and the company I work for has specified that all code would be owned by their clients ....
02:11 gentooma yakoi: using the gpl the forks have to use that too - if the costumer doesn't want to use that licence I usually turn them down - I'm quite idiological :)
02:11 yakoi Yeah, I hear your point, but then I bet you are self-employed
02:12 gentooma yakoi: :)
02:12 yakoi I'm not there yet
02:12 yakoi unfortunately
02:13 gentooma yakoi: but on the other hand what is your problem - if you are an employee you have to stick to the licence model your boss tells you
02:14 yakoi that would be true in a large company
02:14 gentooma yakoi: (I don't want to appear rude - it's just late here - sorry :)
02:14 yakoi np, it's nice enough someone's here to answer
02:14 gentooma yakoi: so please tell me your problem :)
02:10 yakoi Now what if I am a 'sub-contractor' (what is the correct term for this in english anyway?) and the company I work for has specified that all code would be owned by their clients ....
02:11 gentooma yakoi: using the gpl the forks have to use that too - if the costumer doesn't want to use that licence I usually turn them down - I'm quite idiological :)
02:11 yakoi Yeah, I hear your point, but then I bet you are self-employed
02:12 gentooma yakoi: :)
02:12 yakoi I'm not there yet
02:12 yakoi unfortunately
02:13 gentooma yakoi: but on the other hand what is your problem - if you are an employee you have to stick to the licence model your boss tells you
02:14 yakoi that would be true in a large company
02:14 gentooma yakoi: (I don't want to appear rude - it's just late here - sorry :)
02:14 yakoi np, it's nice enough someone's here to answer
02:14 gentooma yakoi: so please tell me your problem :)
02:16 gentooma again ;)
02:16 yakoi I am reading one more of those bs offers underpriced, under-evaluated promessed by a company under-skilled that needs us to make their ext. dev. in an unrealistic delay. I must present our answer tomorrow
02:17 gentooma sounds nice ;)
02:17 yakoi I bet it does!
02:18 yakoi and they specified to their clients that he would be owner of all code, which makes absolutely no sens at all since ownership is about copyrights and copyrights are owned by Kasper, the community and anyone who wrote up the code.
02:18 gentooma in that case I would retain all rights - the copyright etc ;)
02:19 yakoi yeah, well force-sign the fact that they have no copyrights over all code they obtain.
02:19 ries yakoi: they can only be owner of the code you write for them
02:16 gentooma again ;)
02:16 yakoi I am reading one more of those bs offers underpriced, under-evaluated promessed by a company under-skilled that needs us to make their ext. dev. in an unrealistic delay. I must present our answer tomorrow
02:17 gentooma sounds nice ;)
02:17 yakoi I bet it does!
02:18 yakoi and they specified to their clients that he would be owner of all code, which makes absolutely no sens at all since ownership is about copyrights and copyrights are owned by Kasper, the community and anyone who wrote up the code.
02:18 gentooma in that case I would retain all rights - the copyright etc ;)
02:19 yakoi yeah, well force-sign the fact that they have no copyrights over all code they obtain.
02:19 ries yakoi: they can only be owner of the code you write for them
02:20 yakoi of course ...
02:20 yakoi thx
02:21 gentooma yakoi: so I would tell them you write the code for them - but retain the ownership / copyright on the code and that this is the usual practice even in open source terms ---> e,g, typo3 still belongs to kasper
02:22 gentooma ries: or am I wrong?
02:22 gentooma I'm not a law expert :/ btw
02:22 yakoi so ownership of code is about copyright , right ?
02:22 gentooma yes
02:22 yakoi and license is only about distribution
02:22 gentooma that what I ment by ownership
02:22 ries you can transfer copyright to the one you write it for... even in GPL
02:23 ries That company can even sell the product... but since all code is GPL the must give teh source to there clients if teh client asks for it
02:23 ries If it's an in-house product... then nobody can force them to give code away
02:23 gentooma ries: but I wouldn't transfer the copyright to someone else if he isn't paying enough for it
02:23 ries ofcourse not...
02:24 ries I didn't follow the complete thread...
02:24 ries But normally you would agree about something before you start
02:24 gentooma ries: the most important: (2007-08-31 04:16:34) yakoi: I am reading one more of those bs offers underpriced, under-evaluated promessed by a company under-skilled that needs us to make their ext. dev. in an unrealistic delay. I must present our answer tomorrow
02:24 ries I am quite lucky... my client only care if the code I write for them is working for them... I can do with teh code whatever I feel like it
02:20 yakoi of course ...
02:20 yakoi thx
02:21 gentooma yakoi: so I would tell them you write the code for them - but retain the ownership / copyright on the code and that this is the usual practice even in open source terms ---> e,g, typo3 still belongs to kasper
02:22 gentooma ries: or am I wrong?
02:22 gentooma I'm not a law expert :/ btw
02:22 yakoi so ownership of code is about copyright , right ?
02:22 gentooma yes
02:22 yakoi and license is only about distribution
02:22 gentooma that what I ment by ownership
02:22 ries you can transfer copyright to the one you write it for... even in GPL
02:23 ries That company can even sell the product... but since all code is GPL the must give teh source to there clients if teh client asks for it
02:23 ries If it's an in-house product... then nobody can force them to give code away
02:23 gentooma ries: but I wouldn't transfer the copyright to someone else if he isn't paying enough for it
02:23 ries ofcourse not...
02:24 ries I didn't follow the complete thread...
02:24 ries But normally you would agree about something before you start
02:24 gentooma ries: the most important: (2007-08-31 04:16:34) yakoi: I am reading one more of those bs offers underpriced, under-evaluated promessed by a company under-skilled that needs us to make their ext. dev. in an unrealistic delay. I must present our answer tomorrow
02:24 ries I am quite lucky... my client only care if the code I write for them is working for them... I can do with teh code whatever I feel like it
02:25 yakoi ries: if I have an ext. I developped for a client and leased the (copy)rights to that client, under GPL, what happens from then with the code I can fork from in terms of re-usability
02:25 ries you can...up untill the hour the code was under your name, you can do whatever you feel with it...
02:25 yakoi ries: the problem is that my cie does .... 'sub-contracted' jobs
02:26 ries after that hour when the copyright was transfered you cannot do something with teh code you wrote for them because you worked for them at that time
02:26 ries if the company says you cannot release the code then basicly you cannot
02:26 yakoi what if the cie does give you the right to release it ?
02:27 ries yakoi: I am not sure in your situation... if you write teh code for somebody else and you get payed for it...
02:27 ries then teh copyright is laying with the ppl that pay you for it...
02:27 ries however the code will be still GPL incase you write extensions for typo3..
02:27 ries who is cie?
02:27 yakoi cie = company
02:27 yakoi corporation, client, organization
02:28 ries depends a bit what you agree up-on...
02:28 ries if you or teh compay you work for get's payed for the work you do... then basicly it does make sence to ask teh company you finally write for if you can release the code or not
02:28 ries that, if I understand your queation correctly...
02:25 yakoi ries: if I have an ext. I developped for a client and leased the (copy)rights to that client, under GPL, what happens from then with the code I can fork from in terms of re-usability
02:25 ries you can...up untill the hour the code was under your name, you can do whatever you feel with it...
02:25 yakoi ries: the problem is that my cie does .... 'sub-contracted' jobs
02:26 ries after that hour when the copyright was transfered you cannot do something with teh code you wrote for them because you worked for them at that time
02:26 ries if the company says you cannot release the code then basicly you cannot
02:26 yakoi what if the cie does give you the right to release it ?
02:27 ries yakoi: I am not sure in your situation... if you write teh code for somebody else and you get payed for it...
02:27 ries then teh copyright is laying with the ppl that pay you for it...
02:27 ries however the code will be still GPL incase you write extensions for typo3..
02:27 ries who is cie?
02:27 yakoi cie = company
02:27 yakoi corporation, client, organization
02:28 ries depends a bit what you agree up-on...
02:28 ries if you or teh compay you work for get's payed for the work you do... then basicly it does make sence to ask teh company you finally write for if you can release the code or not
02:28 ries that, if I understand your queation correctly...
02:30 yakoi but release is about license or copyrights ?
02:33 gentooma both I'd say
02:34 ries yakoi: license says something about releasing and copyrights
02:34 ries copyrights says something about the owner
02:30 yakoi but release is about license or copyrights ?
02:33 gentooma both I'd say
02:34 ries yakoi: license says something about releasing and copyrights
02:34 ries copyrights says something about the owner
02:35 ries if you need to know how software can be released, then the license type needs to get knowsn
02:35 yakoi ries: yes and it's the one who has copyrights (owner) that chooses which license goes
02:35 gentooma if you release something under GPL - copyright is more or less unrelevant as you always can make a fork of the version you released under gpl - even if you aren't the copyright ownder
02:35 ries I am by no means a lawyer..... so you now :)
02:36 yakoi gentooma: and that fork is still copyright to the original author
02:36 ries yakoi: The owner can pick the type of license... But only of the license the software connects to allows it
02:36 ries That's why some licenses are not compatible
02:36 ries For example all software that interfaces directly with typo3 MUST be licensed GPL
02:36 ries a owner cannot change just pick a other type of license, but only compatible licences...
02:37 ries I think only MIT is compatible with GPL, but I don't want to put my hand in the fire for iut...
02:37 ries You can fork ofcourse... But the copyright is still to the origional owner,,,
02:37 ries a owner can change the license if he want's to, but only after the date a decides to
02:37 yakoi yes, I know, but I'm only talking about copyrights and ownership as this is what bugs me with those mentions on client offers where I read: "Source code will be owned by client"
02:38 ries a owner cannot change a license that was released yesterday
02:38 ries source code can be owned by the client which is perfectly legal to ask
02:38 ries if you write a extension for typo3... then teh client is owner, but MUST be licenced under GPL
02:39 gentooma ries: that is exactly the point wanted to express above
02:39 yakoi if I write code for client X, who's the default owner, client X or my organisation ?
02:39 gentooma ries: thanks
02:39 yakoi gentooma: : thx you ;)
02:35 ries if you need to know how software can be released, then the license type needs to get knowsn
02:35 yakoi ries: yes and it's the one who has copyrights (owner) that chooses which license goes
02:35 gentooma if you release something under GPL - copyright is more or less unrelevant as you always can make a fork of the version you released under gpl - even if you aren't the copyright ownder
02:35 ries I am by no means a lawyer..... so you now :)
02:36 yakoi gentooma: and that fork is still copyright to the original author
02:36 ries yakoi: The owner can pick the type of license... But only of the license the software connects to allows it
02:36 ries That's why some licenses are not compatible
02:36 ries For example all software that interfaces directly with typo3 MUST be licensed GPL
02:36 ries a owner cannot change just pick a other type of license, but only compatible licences...
02:37 ries I think only MIT is compatible with GPL, but I don't want to put my hand in the fire for iut...
02:37 ries You can fork ofcourse... But the copyright is still to the origional owner,,,
02:37 ries a owner can change the license if he want's to, but only after the date a decides to
02:37 yakoi yes, I know, but I'm only talking about copyrights and ownership as this is what bugs me with those mentions on client offers where I read: "Source code will be owned by client"
02:38 ries a owner cannot change a license that was released yesterday
02:38 ries source code can be owned by the client which is perfectly legal to ask
02:38 ries if you write a extension for typo3... then teh client is owner, but MUST be licenced under GPL
02:39 gentooma ries: that is exactly the point wanted to express above
02:39 yakoi if I write code for client X, who's the default owner, client X or my organisation ?
02:39 gentooma ries: thanks
02:39 yakoi gentooma: : thx you ;)
02:40 gentooma yakoi: usually your company - unless otherwise stated in the contract
02:40 yakoi well thx to both of you guys, it's allready more organised, I know I'll be up for a 'fight' tomorrow
02:41 ries yakoi: bottom line.... if it's an extension for typo3 the license MUST be GPL
02:41 gentooma yakoi: but as we both said - using gpl which is a must - it doesn't really matter --- if your costumer decides to change the licence you still can refer to the old version
02:42 ries and the owner of the software can be per contract which is 1) You 2) the company YOU work for 3) The companies client
02:42 ries one of these 3 will be owner
02:42 yakoi so an owner that released version 0.6 of ext_something on the 30.08.2007, it will never change license for this version from then on
02:42 ries for example
02:42 ries of version 5.99 is licenced under GPL with the copyright yakoi
02:42 yakoi and then I can reuse that code , still copyrighted to client x and gpl, forever
02:43 ries then version 6.01 can be licenced under GPL with teh owner companyX
02:43 ries but version 5.99 can NEVER be changed ownership...
02:43 yakoi ok, so both license and copyright persists
02:44 ries Yup...
02:44 gentooma I'd agree with ries
02:44 ries in case of GPL and typo3 it means that extensions can never change license type because GPL is kinda strict in that
02:44 yakoi and since the new code wasnt written by original author, the original author wont be able to change the license on that code from then on
02:44 yakoi so it's like frozen forever
02:44 ries yup...
02:40 gentooma yakoi: usually your company - unless otherwise stated in the contract
02:40 yakoi well thx to both of you guys, it's allready more organised, I know I'll be up for a 'fight' tomorrow
02:41 ries yakoi: bottom line.... if it's an extension for typo3 the license MUST be GPL
02:41 gentooma yakoi: but as we both said - using gpl which is a must - it doesn't really matter --- if your costumer decides to change the licence you still can refer to the old version
02:42 ries and the owner of the software can be per contract which is 1) You 2) the company YOU work for 3) The companies client
02:42 ries one of these 3 will be owner
02:42 yakoi so an owner that released version 0.6 of ext_something on the 30.08.2007, it will never change license for this version from then on
02:42 ries for example
02:42 ries of version 5.99 is licenced under GPL with the copyright yakoi
02:42 yakoi and then I can reuse that code , still copyrighted to client x and gpl, forever
02:43 ries then version 6.01 can be licenced under GPL with teh owner companyX
02:43 ries but version 5.99 can NEVER be changed ownership...
02:43 yakoi ok, so both license and copyright persists
02:44 ries Yup...
02:44 gentooma I'd agree with ries
02:44 ries in case of GPL and typo3 it means that extensions can never change license type because GPL is kinda strict in that
02:44 yakoi and since the new code wasnt written by original author, the original author wont be able to change the license on that code from then on
02:44 yakoi so it's like frozen forever
02:44 ries yup...
02:45 yakoi gentooma: , ries, thx alot
02:45 yakoi my thoughts are more organized
02:45 ries so GPL protects itslef against theft
02:45 yakoi yes
02:45 yakoi nice
02:45 ries so when 12 persons write code in GPL
02:45 ries then one person..or a unknown person can never steal the code and re-license code in the past
02:46 ries under some conditions teh complete code can be relicenced... but the old code will always be teh old license
02:46 ries that's why forking is allowed by law
02:47 ries The company that want's to own the copyright must have the GPL license in place...
02:47 ries they are allowed to sell the software you wrote
02:47 ries as many times if they want... GPL doesn't forbid selling software
02:48 ries for example I can sell TYPO3 (as GPL) to a company on CD...
02:48 ries However they cannot own copyright on it... and the code will stay GPL
02:48 yakoi even if it's a modified T3 version
02:48 ries when the company sell the software you wrote to me
02:48 ries they are obligated to give me the source code because all code is GPL..
02:48 ries even if it's a modified version of GPL....
02:49 ries well.. they are obligated to give it when I ask for it
02:49 ries they don't have to give it right away..
02:49 yakoi ok, if you are my client
02:49 ries that's why big companies don't always liek GPL a lot
02:49 yakoi I code for you and give you the copyrights
02:49 yakoi so code copyrighted ries and licensed GPL
02:49 ries yup
02:49 yakoi you decide not to distribute it
02:49 yakoi so I cannot fork it
02:49 yakoi right ?
02:45 yakoi gentooma: , ries, thx alot
02:45 yakoi my thoughts are more organized
02:45 ries so GPL protects itslef against theft
02:45 yakoi yes
02:45 yakoi nice
02:45 ries so when 12 persons write code in GPL
02:45 ries then one person..or a unknown person can never steal the code and re-license code in the past
02:46 ries under some conditions teh complete code can be relicenced... but the old code will always be teh old license
02:46 ries that's why forking is allowed by law
02:47 ries The company that want's to own the copyright must have the GPL license in place...
02:47 ries they are allowed to sell the software you wrote
02:47 ries as many times if they want... GPL doesn't forbid selling software
02:48 ries for example I can sell TYPO3 (as GPL) to a company on CD...
02:48 ries However they cannot own copyright on it... and the code will stay GPL
02:48 yakoi even if it's a modified T3 version
02:48 ries when the company sell the software you wrote to me
02:48 ries they are obligated to give me the source code because all code is GPL..
02:48 ries even if it's a modified version of GPL....
02:49 ries well.. they are obligated to give it when I ask for it
02:49 ries they don't have to give it right away..
02:49 yakoi ok, if you are my client
02:49 ries that's why big companies don't always liek GPL a lot
02:49 yakoi I code for you and give you the copyrights
02:49 yakoi so code copyrighted ries and licensed GPL
02:49 ries yup
02:49 yakoi you decide not to distribute it
02:49 yakoi so I cannot fork it
02:49 yakoi right ?
02:50 ries if you write it from scratch... it means the code is mine, however the license IS GPL
02:50 ries But in the contract I can ask you not to release it, whish is legal
02:50 yakoi yes
02:50 ries if I then change your software
02:50 ries and you buy it
02:50 ries I am obligated to give you the source code when you ask for it...
02:51 ries GPL != Open Source
02:51 yakoi hmm
02:51 yakoi but if you don't distribute your code
02:51 yakoi I can never re-use it, fork it, modify it
02:52 yakoi even if it sits on my computer
02:52 ries not per contract...
02:52 yakoi ok
02:52 ries because it's my software, not yours
02:52 ries even though it's GPL
02:52 ries it's best to make that clear during contract time to avoid problems later on
02:52 yakoi you as a developper, how often do you sign to give away rights to client?
02:53 yakoi how common of a thing is this?
02:53 ries yakoi: a couple of times...
02:53 ries it's quite common
02:53 yakoi when the code turns around the buisness logic I suppose
02:54 ries For my feeling as a developer I am not doing it because I cannot be trusted as an developer anymore
02:54 yakoi why not ?
02:54 ries if I feel that some code can be usefull for teh community, for example a PDF lib I am writing
02:54 ries then I will ask teh client of I can release it...
02:54 yakoi ok
02:50 ries if you write it from scratch... it means the code is mine, however the license IS GPL
02:50 ries But in the contract I can ask you not to release it, whish is legal
02:50 yakoi yes
02:50 ries if I then change your software
02:50 ries and you buy it
02:50 ries I am obligated to give you the source code when you ask for it...
02:51 ries GPL != Open Source
02:51 yakoi hmm
02:51 yakoi but if you don't distribute your code
02:51 yakoi I can never re-use it, fork it, modify it
02:52 yakoi even if it sits on my computer
02:52 ries not per contract...
02:52 yakoi ok
02:52 ries because it's my software, not yours
02:52 ries even though it's GPL
02:52 ries it's best to make that clear during contract time to avoid problems later on
02:52 yakoi you as a developper, how often do you sign to give away rights to client?
02:53 yakoi how common of a thing is this?
02:53 ries yakoi: a couple of times...
02:53 ries it's quite common
02:53 yakoi when the code turns around the buisness logic I suppose
02:54 ries For my feeling as a developer I am not doing it because I cannot be trusted as an developer anymore
02:54 yakoi why not ?
02:54 ries if I feel that some code can be usefull for teh community, for example a PDF lib I am writing
02:54 ries then I will ask teh client of I can release it...
02:54 yakoi ok
02:55 ries yakoi: I work for a couple of big companies... and it will ruin my reputation as a developer
02:55 ries also, often my code is so specific it doesn't work for others
02:55 yakoi so you generally do not re-use ?
02:55 ries My own rule is : The company who hires me is owner of the software... unless I ask for it
02:56 yakoi ok
02:56 yakoi well that's also how I see it
02:56 ries Ofcourse I re-use functions and bit's and pieces... But for me that falls under experiance...
02:56 gentooma yakoi: same here - I usually release it but according to the download numbers my exts are too specific :)
02:56 yakoi but it goes a bit further. It's about the pertinance of a company to stipulate on a contract even if it was not specifically required by client that all code written for them would be owned by them
02:56 ries it's hard to ask a developer not to copy a old function and re-write it...
02:57 yakoi of course
02:57 yakoi gentooma: what's your own favorite released ext on ter ?
02:58 ries yakoi: if the company didn't specially ask for the copy right owner... then I hope that the company you work for put's something like that in a standard contact...
02:59 yakoi ries: (I hope that the company you work for put's something like that in a standard contact) you mean to 'specify ownership of the client' ?
02:59 ries well..
02:59 ries normally if two companie agree on something
02:59 ries there is a software contract
02:59 yakoi exactly
02:59 yakoi this is where I am now
02:59 ries under normal conditions a software company would put in there that they own the software and they sell a license
02:59 yakoi at preparing the ground to get to that 'signing the contract' part
02:55 ries yakoi: I work for a couple of big companies... and it will ruin my reputation as a developer
02:55 ries also, often my code is so specific it doesn't work for others
02:55 yakoi so you generally do not re-use ?
02:55 ries My own rule is : The company who hires me is owner of the software... unless I ask for it
02:56 yakoi ok
02:56 yakoi well that's also how I see it
02:56 ries Ofcourse I re-use functions and bit's and pieces... But for me that falls under experiance...
02:56 gentooma yakoi: same here - I usually release it but according to the download numbers my exts are too specific :)
02:56 yakoi but it goes a bit further. It's about the pertinance of a company to stipulate on a contract even if it was not specifically required by client that all code written for them would be owned by them
02:56 ries it's hard to ask a developer not to copy a old function and re-write it...
02:57 yakoi of course
02:57 yakoi gentooma: what's your own favorite released ext on ter ?
02:58 ries yakoi: if the company didn't specially ask for the copy right owner... then I hope that the company you work for put's something like that in a standard contact...
02:59 yakoi ries: (I hope that the company you work for put's something like that in a standard contact) you mean to 'specify ownership of the client' ?
02:59 ries well..
02:59 ries normally if two companie agree on something
02:59 ries there is a software contract
02:59 yakoi exactly
02:59 yakoi this is where I am now
02:59 ries under normal conditions a software company would put in there that they own the software and they sell a license
02:59 yakoi at preparing the ground to get to that 'signing the contract' part
03:00 ries check with your legal department for that
03:00 ries and the contracts that where signed
03:00 yakoi the contract isn't signed
03:00 yakoi we're at the part of proposing
03:01 yakoi on a bid that our client made to his client
03:01 yakoi where he specified on the paper he gave to his client that all source code was owned by his client (literally). So I needed more arguments for tomorrow
03:02 yakoi since I'm a kid in the arena and they won't take me too seriously
03:02 ries what argument are you looking for?
03:02 ries yakoi: the channel is logged :)
03:03 yakoi well, wanted to be absolutely sure this made no sens
03:03 yakoi ries: i know, on your website
03:03 yakoi I'm aware
03:03 yakoi thanks to you ;)
03:03 ries just wanted you to be aware off...
03:04 ries what is wrong if the client want's to have copyright?
03:00 ries check with your legal department for that
03:00 ries and the contracts that where signed
03:00 yakoi the contract isn't signed
03:00 yakoi we're at the part of proposing
03:01 yakoi on a bid that our client made to his client
03:01 yakoi where he specified on the paper he gave to his client that all source code was owned by his client (literally). So I needed more arguments for tomorrow
03:02 yakoi since I'm a kid in the arena and they won't take me too seriously
03:02 ries what argument are you looking for?
03:02 ries yakoi: the channel is logged :)
03:03 yakoi well, wanted to be absolutely sure this made no sens
03:03 yakoi ries: i know, on your website
03:03 yakoi I'm aware
03:03 yakoi thanks to you ;)
03:03 ries just wanted you to be aware off...
03:04 ries what is wrong if the client want's to have copyright?
03:05 yakoi the company hireing us presented it like this: do it so it cost as less as possible, reusing all the extensions you can to match a certain price-range
03:05 ries they can.... But they cannot claim copyright of the code before a specific date (when projects starts properly)
03:06 ries so you will keep on heaving the copyright before contract date
03:06 ries and the company will get copyright after teh contracts date
03:06 ries if they want to have copyrihght of the complete code then let them pay more :)
03:08 yakoi yes, thanks for that but it goes even further
03:09 yakoi how do you manage multiple copyrights on a same source-code ?
03:09 yakoi only by specifying multiple copyrights in the file headers?
03:05 yakoi the company hireing us presented it like this: do it so it cost as less as possible, reusing all the extensions you can to match a certain price-range
03:05 ries they can.... But they cannot claim copyright of the code before a specific date (when projects starts properly)
03:06 ries so you will keep on heaving the copyright before contract date
03:06 ries and the company will get copyright after teh contracts date
03:06 ries if they want to have copyrihght of the complete code then let them pay more :)
03:08 yakoi yes, thanks for that but it goes even further
03:09 yakoi how do you manage multiple copyrights on a same source-code ?
03:09 yakoi only by specifying multiple copyrights in the file headers?
03:10 ries depends
03:11 ries as a curtsey , normally you can share copyrights
03:11 ries so if you write code
03:11 ries and I copy it and use it in my project and change it, I simply add a second copyright
03:11 ries in your specific case teh client want's to have complete copyright
03:11 ries then you can do see, since he is paying for it
03:11 ries you can do so..
03:14 yakoi ok thanks
03:14 yakoi but he's not paying enough for me to do so
03:14 yakoi I have to re-use to get in his price-range
03:10 ries depends
03:11 ries as a curtsey , normally you can share copyrights
03:11 ries so if you write code
03:11 ries and I copy it and use it in my project and change it, I simply add a second copyright
03:11 ries in your specific case teh client want's to have complete copyright
03:11 ries then you can do see, since he is paying for it
03:11 ries you can do so..
03:14 yakoi ok thanks
03:14 yakoi but he's not paying enough for me to do so
03:14 yakoi I have to re-use to get in his price-range
03:16 ries yakoi:
03:16 ries to give you a not so good example
03:16 ries 1)http://typo3.org/extensions/repository/view/lib/0.0.19/info/class.tx_lib_smartyView.php/
03:16 ries 2)http://typo3.org/extensions/repository/view/lib/0.0.24/info/class.tx_lib_smartyView.php/
03:16 ries The copyright of that file was changed
03:17 ries Now I know Elmar and steffen (I actually wrote 90% of the code at release 0.0.24)
03:17 ries so I don't care much
03:17 ries Normally you would place a thanks, or a copy right by Steffen aswell...
03:17 ries But there you can see the copyright has changed, but license is teh same
03:18 ries yakoi: apparently teh client is pushing you... Just don't admit to it :)
03:18 ries I am not sure what price we are talkign about, hourly rate etc...
03:18 ries But it would tell me what the client is up to
03:16 ries yakoi:
03:16 ries to give you a not so good example
03:16 ries 1)http://typo3.org/extensions/repository/view/lib/0.0.19/info/class.tx_lib_smartyView.php/
03:16 ries 2)http://typo3.org/extensions/repository/view/lib/0.0.24/info/class.tx_lib_smartyView.php/
03:16 ries The copyright of that file was changed
03:17 ries Now I know Elmar and steffen (I actually wrote 90% of the code at release 0.0.24)
03:17 ries so I don't care much
03:17 ries Normally you would place a thanks, or a copy right by Steffen aswell...
03:17 ries But there you can see the copyright has changed, but license is teh same
03:18 ries yakoi: apparently teh client is pushing you... Just don't admit to it :)
03:18 ries I am not sure what price we are talkign about, hourly rate etc...
03:18 ries But it would tell me what the client is up to
03:21 yakoi Yes
03:21 yakoi thanks for all Ries.
03:21 yakoi By the way, how is it going with typo3 5 and your smarty integration?
03:21 ries I am using it myself using lib / div...
03:21 ries but as far as I know I am teh only one :)
03:22 ries I just like smarty much better then php templating...
03:23 yakoi is lib/div stable enough for prod. use now ?
03:24 yakoi I hesitated for my last ext.
03:24 yakoi not sure when to dive in
03:24 ries I think it's stable
03:24 ries I use it since alpha
03:24 ries But didn't udpate lib/div to much
03:24 ries also because of our release cycle
03:21 yakoi Yes
03:21 yakoi thanks for all Ries.
03:21 yakoi By the way, how is it going with typo3 5 and your smarty integration?
03:21 ries I am using it myself using lib / div...
03:21 ries but as far as I know I am teh only one :)
03:22 ries I just like smarty much better then php templating...
03:23 yakoi is lib/div stable enough for prod. use now ?
03:24 yakoi I hesitated for my last ext.
03:24 yakoi not sure when to dive in
03:24 ries I think it's stable
03:24 ries I use it since alpha
03:24 ries But didn't udpate lib/div to much
03:24 ries also because of our release cycle
03:26 yakoi ok
03:26 yakoi ok
03:36 gentooma bye guys and girls - it'S getting late - thanks!
03:36 gentooma bye guys and girls - it'S getting late - thanks!
05:09 dax77 good morning @all
05:09 dax77 good morning @all
05:29 tsrepadmin good morning #typo3
05:29 tsrepadmin good morning #typo3
05:31 dax77 hi tsrepadmin
05:31 dax77 hi tsrepadmin
05:46 jade hi room
05:47 jade can anybody tell me how can i generate a thumbnail of my own selected size in th Backend whenever admin uploads an image using file control??
05:48 jade actually i dont want to generate thumnails at run time
05:49 jade i want that whenever admin adds an image then a size e.g. 200 x 200 image will be created and stored in the directory which i mention
05:46 jade hi room
05:47 jade can anybody tell me how can i generate a thumbnail of my own selected size in th Backend whenever admin uploads an image using file control??
05:48 jade actually i dont want to generate thumnails at run time
05:49 jade i want that whenever admin adds an image then a size e.g. 200 x 200 image will be created and stored in the directory which i mention
05:50 jade hello???
05:50 jade anybody there???
05:52 dax77 hi jade
05:52 jade hi
05:52 dax77 still that problem?
05:52 jade yes
05:53 jade do u have any idea?
05:53 dax77 I didn't get your answer yesterday, but why is it a problem to generate at runtime?
05:53 jade i dont want to do that
05:53 jade coz page loading time increases
05:53 dax77 but just the first time
05:54 socken23 Hi all! I have problems with direct_mail_subscription. I get the confirmation mail, but when I click the link, I just get to the startpage.. Any idea!?
05:50 jade hello???
05:50 jade anybody there???
05:52 dax77 hi jade
05:52 jade hi
05:52 dax77 still that problem?
05:52 jade yes
05:53 jade do u have any idea?
05:53 dax77 I didn't get your answer yesterday, but why is it a problem to generate at runtime?
05:53 jade i dont want to do that
05:53 jade coz page loading time increases
05:53 dax77 but just the first time
05:54 socken23 Hi all! I have problems with direct_mail_subscription. I get the confirmation mail, but when I click the link, I just get to the startpage.. Any idea!?
05:56 jade i am using to generate thumbnails
05:56 jade my own function to create thubnails : dax77
05:56 jade how can it be load slow only on first time
05:59 dax77 jade: if you are creating the thumbnails yourself eachtime, its your own fault. So I guess you don't cache the page, which would generate the thumbnail only the first time
05:56 jade i am using to generate thumbnails
05:56 jade my own function to create thubnails : dax77
05:56 jade how can it be load slow only on first time
05:59 dax77 jade: if you are creating the thumbnails yourself eachtime, its your own fault. So I guess you don't cache the page, which would generate the thumbnail only the first time
06:00 jade how can i cache that specific page
06:01 jade actually its a php script which i have callled using PHP_SCRIPT in the template record
06:02 jade dax77: can i cache it
06:02 dax77 jade: outch, PHP_SCRIPT again. why can't people stop using that?
06:02 jade :)
06:02 jade coz its php friendly
06:02 jade and typoscript is a bit complex
06:03 jade i guess so
06:03 dax77 no, people just don't know how to setup a basic extension. typoscript has nothing to do with that
06:04 jade so u tell me how do improve my this issue
06:04 jade i guess each time my script executes its generates thumbnails again
06:00 jade how can i cache that specific page
06:01 jade actually its a php script which i have callled using PHP_SCRIPT in the template record
06:02 jade dax77: can i cache it
06:02 dax77 jade: outch, PHP_SCRIPT again. why can't people stop using that?
06:02 jade :)
06:02 jade coz its php friendly
06:02 jade and typoscript is a bit complex
06:03 jade i guess so
06:03 dax77 no, people just don't know how to setup a basic extension. typoscript has nothing to do with that
06:04 jade so u tell me how do improve my this issue
06:04 jade i guess each time my script executes its generates thumbnails again
06:05 dax77 if you have a function main($content, $conf) which expects a string in return and everything you do inside doesn't matter, could you include your script?
06:06 jade hmmmm..
06:07 jade ok if i use that code in this function which is an extension
06:08 jade even though still i will be using my own function to generate images
06:08 jade will the page get cached?
06:09 dax77 yes
06:09 jade $GLOBALS["TSFE"]->set_no_cache();
06:05 dax77 if you have a function main($content, $conf) which expects a string in return and everything you do inside doesn't matter, could you include your script?
06:06 jade hmmmm..
06:07 jade ok if i use that code in this function which is an extension
06:08 jade even though still i will be using my own function to generate images
06:08 jade will the page get cached?
06:09 dax77 yes
06:09 jade $GLOBALS["TSFE"]->set_no_cache();
06:10 dax77 not then
06:10 jade yes ok i got it
06:10 dax77 but why would you wanna set that?
06:10 jade i m just asking
06:10 jade just confirming :)
06:10 dax77 you can always turn cache off ;)
06:11 jade but that will only for that specific page
06:11 jade not for whole
06:11 jade ?
06:11 jade right?
06:11 dax77 generally caching is globaly enabled
06:11 jade hmmm
06:11 dax77 but you can turn it off page per page
06:12 dax77 or extension by extension
06:12 jade now i got it
06:12 jade one more thing
06:12 dax77 which is your case: PHP_SCRIPT gets a no cache
06:13 jade but the problem in extension that every thing must be in the $content variable
06:13 jade right?
06:13 jade i have to use embedded code
06:13 jade e.g. javascript also embedeed
06:13 jade plus taking care of single quotes double quotes :S
06:13 dax77 its nothing more than y string
06:14 dax77 yes, you have to take care of quets
06:14 dax77 quotes
06:14 jade ok dax77: last thing
06:14 jade i used DB commands that executes query
06:10 dax77 not then
06:10 jade yes ok i got it
06:10 dax77 but why would you wanna set that?
06:10 jade i m just asking
06:10 jade just confirming :)
06:10 dax77 you can always turn cache off ;)
06:11 jade but that will only for that specific page
06:11 jade not for whole
06:11 jade ?
06:11 jade right?
06:11 dax77 generally caching is globaly enabled
06:11 jade hmmm
06:11 dax77 but you can turn it off page per page
06:12 dax77 or extension by extension
06:12 jade now i got it
06:12 jade one more thing
06:12 dax77 which is your case: PHP_SCRIPT gets a no cache
06:13 jade but the problem in extension that every thing must be in the $content variable
06:13 jade right?
06:13 jade i have to use embedded code
06:13 jade e.g. javascript also embedeed
06:13 jade plus taking care of single quotes double quotes :S
06:13 dax77 its nothing more than y string
06:14 dax77 yes, you have to take care of quets
06:14 dax77 quotes
06:14 jade ok dax77: last thing
06:14 jade i used DB commands that executes query
06:15 jade but it aint exexuting anything
06:15 jade php returns errror
06:15 jade what should i do?
06:16 dax77 $GLOBALS['TYPO3_DB']->exec_SELECTquery($select, $table,$where,$groupBy ,$orderBy,$limit);
06:16 jade yes this one
06:16 dax77 did you enablke sqlDebug in the install tool?
06:16 dax77 what are the errors?
06:16 jade no
06:17 jade wait let me tell you
06:17 jade do i need to install anyother extension for that??
06:17 dax77 nope
06:18 jade not even database abstraction layer or ADodb????
06:18 dax77 no
06:18 jade wait let me tell u the msg then
06:15 jade but it aint exexuting anything
06:15 jade php returns errror
06:15 jade what should i do?
06:16 dax77 $GLOBALS['TYPO3_DB']->exec_SELECTquery($select, $table,$where,$groupBy ,$orderBy,$limit);
06:16 jade yes this one
06:16 dax77 did you enablke sqlDebug in the install tool?
06:16 dax77 what are the errors?
06:16 jade no
06:17 jade wait let me tell you
06:17 jade do i need to install anyother extension for that??
06:17 dax77 nope
06:18 jade not even database abstraction layer or ADodb????
06:18 dax77 no
06:18 jade wait let me tell u the msg then
06:23 jade Parse error: syntax error, unexpected T_VARIABLE in F:\Projects\Tom_Husler\typo3conf\ext\user_feedback\pi1\class.user_feedback_pi1.php on line 102
06:23 jade $res = $GLOBALS['TYPO3_DB']->exec_SELECTquery("*", "pages", "","" ,"","");
06:23 jade while($row = mysql_fetch_assoc($res))
06:23 jade {
06:23 jade      $t = $row['user_customfields_contact_info'].'<br />';
06:23 jade echo $t;
06:23 jade }
06:24 jade here is my code dax77
06:24 jade where is the problem???
06:23 jade Parse error: syntax error, unexpected T_VARIABLE in F:\Projects\Tom_Husler\typo3conf\ext\user_feedback\pi1\class.user_feedback_pi1.php on line 102
06:23 jade $res = $GLOBALS['TYPO3_DB']->exec_SELECTquery("*", "pages", "","" ,"","");
06:23 jade while($row = mysql_fetch_assoc($res))
06:23 jade {
06:23 jade      $t = $row['user_customfields_contact_info'].'<br />';
06:23 jade echo $t;
06:23 jade }
06:24 jade here is my code dax77
06:24 jade where is the problem???
06:25 jade dax77: u there?
06:26 dax77 still there, but I don't see a problem right now
06:26 jade neither do i
06:27 jade u know line 102 is the line $t = $row['user_customfields_contact_info'].'<br />';
06:27 dax77 T_VARIABLE standas for termination variable. so php gets a termination char in line 102 but the line isn't finished yet
06:28 jade :S
06:28 dax77 I see many question marks
06:28 d|g hi all
06:28 drindt dax77: morning :)
06:29 dax77 are they really there or are they just chars my irc client can't show?
06:29 dax77 hi drindt
06:29 jade no
06:29 dax77 hi d|g
06:29 jade its just IRC pasted these block characters
06:29 d|g dax77 hi =)
06:25 jade dax77: u there?
06:26 dax77 still there, but I don't see a problem right now
06:26 jade neither do i
06:27 jade u know line 102 is the line $t = $row['user_customfields_contact_info'].'<br />';
06:27 dax77 T_VARIABLE standas for termination variable. so php gets a termination char in line 102 but the line isn't finished yet
06:28 jade :S
06:28 dax77 I see many question marks
06:28 d|g hi all
06:28 drindt dax77: morning :)
06:29 dax77 are they really there or are they just chars my irc client can't show?
06:29 dax77 hi drindt
06:29 jade no
06:29 dax77 hi d|g
06:29 jade its just IRC pasted these block characters
06:29 d|g dax77 hi =)
06:30 dax77 jade: I would try it with a simple test: $t = 'test';
06:30 jade k wait
06:30 dax77 just eliminating the posibilities
06:31 jade hey i did $t = 'test';
06:31 jade but still the same error
06:31 jade :S
06:31 dax77 ok, than its maybe not that line
06:31 jade i suppose while($row = mysql_fetch_assoc($res)) then???
06:32 jade is it correct?
06:32 dax77 try: while ($row = $GLOBALS['TYPO3_DB']->sql_fetch_assoc($res)) {
06:30 dax77 jade: I would try it with a simple test: $t = 'test';
06:30 jade k wait
06:30 dax77 just eliminating the posibilities
06:31 jade hey i did $t = 'test';
06:31 jade but still the same error
06:31 jade :S
06:31 dax77 ok, than its maybe not that line
06:31 jade i suppose while($row = mysql_fetch_assoc($res)) then???
06:32 jade is it correct?
06:32 dax77 try: while ($row = $GLOBALS['TYPO3_DB']->sql_fetch_assoc($res)) {
06:39 dax77 did that work?
06:39 dax77 did that work?
06:43 bauschan hi there
06:43 dax77 hi bauschan
06:43 bauschan hi there
06:43 dax77 hi bauschan
06:51 bauschan bauschan really likes this concept: http://www.willselfdestruct.com/secure/submit
06:51 socken23 When I subscribe to a newsletter, the tt_address gets saved in the wrong place! Can I change that via TS!?
06:51 bauschan bauschan really likes this concept: http://www.willselfdestruct.com/secure/submit
06:51 socken23 When I subscribe to a newsletter, the tt_address gets saved in the wrong place! Can I change that via TS!?
06:55 dax77 bauschan: hehe :)
06:56 bauschan dax77: should we file a feature request for T3 version 4.2
06:58 dax77 bauschan: no need. this can be done pretty easily through setting the endtime of a page record ;)
06:58 dax77 or delete ;)
06:58 dax77 but its a nice concept
06:59 dax77 but I don't believe that they don't log a thing
06:55 dax77 bauschan: hehe :)
06:56 bauschan dax77: should we file a feature request for T3 version 4.2
06:58 dax77 bauschan: no need. this can be done pretty easily through setting the endtime of a page record ;)
06:58 dax77 or delete ;)
06:58 dax77 but its a nice concept
06:59 dax77 but I don't believe that they don't log a thing
07:18 just2b good morning everybody
07:18 just2b good morning everybody
07:20 jade hi all
07:20 jade how can i make my own global variable that can be accessible anywhere ??
07:20 just2b in php or ts?
07:21 tsrepadmin giso79, are you on german-freakz?
07:21 jade just2b: in php?
07:21 giso79 tsrepadmin yes iam
07:21 tsrepadmin me too, together with headcrap.
07:21 jade where do i create such a variable
07:21 tsrepadmin but no oneelse
07:22 tsrepadmin i'm the channel op ^^
07:22 giso79 we have an netsplit i hope the admin works on it
07:22 tsrepadmin k. i want my goldmedal ;-)
07:22 giso79 hehe yes we will see ;-)
07:22 jade just2b: any idea?
07:20 jade hi all
07:20 jade how can i make my own global variable that can be accessible anywhere ??
07:20 just2b in php or ts?
07:21 tsrepadmin giso79, are you on german-freakz?
07:21 jade just2b: in php?
07:21 giso79 tsrepadmin yes iam
07:21 tsrepadmin me too, together with headcrap.
07:21 jade where do i create such a variable
07:21 tsrepadmin but no oneelse
07:22 tsrepadmin i'm the channel op ^^
07:22 giso79 we have an netsplit i hope the admin works on it
07:22 tsrepadmin k. i want my goldmedal ;-)
07:22 giso79 hehe yes we will see ;-)
07:22 jade just2b: any idea?
07:25 dax77 jade: question again: why do ou need a global var?
07:25 dax77 ou = you
07:26 jade i want to add some info in it
07:26 jade e.g. admin email or some other stuff
07:26 dax77 and what is everywhere?
07:26 jade that will be globally available so that i access it everywhere
07:27 jade and i have to change it only once at one place
07:27 dax77 thats TS ;)
07:27 jade can i use the localconf.php for that purpose???
07:28 dax77 I guess you could - but thats.....a really bad bad way
07:28 jade so whats the good way then?
07:28 dax77 typoscript
07:29 jade i mean can u give me an example
07:29 jade e.g i want a variable admin_email
07:29 jade i want it global
07:25 dax77 jade: question again: why do ou need a global var?
07:25 dax77 ou = you
07:26 jade i want to add some info in it
07:26 jade e.g. admin email or some other stuff
07:26 dax77 and what is everywhere?
07:26 jade that will be globally available so that i access it everywhere
07:27 jade and i have to change it only once at one place
07:27 dax77 thats TS ;)
07:27 jade can i use the localconf.php for that purpose???
07:28 dax77 I guess you could - but thats.....a really bad bad way
07:28 jade so whats the good way then?
07:28 dax77 typoscript
07:29 jade i mean can u give me an example
07:29 jade e.g i want a variable admin_email
07:29 jade i want it global
07:30 dax77 well, you can store extension related vars like this: plugin.extensionName.admin_email = whatever
07:30 dax77 jade: global is a large are, where exactly will you need it?
07:31 jade everywhere :)
07:31 just2b dax: everywhere :D :D
07:31 just2b ROFL
07:31 jade yah just2b is right
07:31 jade :)
07:31 just2b you just need it in your own extension, i guess
07:31 just2b everywhere was just a joke
07:31 m4rtijn hi
07:31 jade what if i need it in every extension then?
07:32 just2b you wanna modifiy every extension?
07:32 dax77 lol
07:32 jade thats what i m asking
07:32 just2b could still take a own table
07:32 just2b or in TS still possible
07:32 jade yah thats what i m asking
07:32 jade i want to use it in every extension
07:32 dax77 jade: if another extension makes use of an email - configured in TS - you can assign it in ts
07:33 dax77 myextension.email < {$gobal_email}
07:33 m4rtijn hmm, is the kickstarter working ok with typo 4.1.2 ?
07:33 dax77 in constants you define global_email = whatever
07:33 m4rtijn seems a bit buggy.. or is it me
07:30 dax77 well, you can store extension related vars like this: plugin.extensionName.admin_email = whatever
07:30 dax77 jade: global is a large are, where exactly will you need it?
07:31 jade everywhere :)
07:31 just2b dax: everywhere :D :D
07:31 just2b ROFL
07:31 jade yah just2b is right
07:31 jade :)
07:31 just2b you just need it in your own extension, i guess
07:31 just2b everywhere was just a joke
07:31 m4rtijn hi
07:31 jade what if i need it in every extension then?
07:32 just2b you wanna modifiy every extension?
07:32 dax77 lol
07:32 jade thats what i m asking
07:32 just2b could still take a own table
07:32 just2b or in TS still possible
07:32 jade yah thats what i m asking
07:32 jade i want to use it in every extension
07:32 dax77 jade: if another extension makes use of an email - configured in TS - you can assign it in ts
07:33 dax77 myextension.email < {$gobal_email}
07:33 m4rtijn hmm, is the kickstarter working ok with typo 4.1.2 ?
07:33 dax77 in constants you define global_email = whatever
07:33 m4rtijn seems a bit buggy.. or is it me
07:35 just2b m4rtijn sure
07:35 just2b what doesnt work
07:35 jade dax77: can i do it in php??
07:35 jade anyway?
07:36 m4rtijn if I make a new record from my new extension.. I cant edit it as soon as I pick an Category.. I did smth which is really close to the tutorial CD collection..
07:36 m4rtijn I have one field which is database relation.. category.. as soon as I pick this I cant edit my records anymore.. it just shows an empty page..
07:37 dax77 jade: I won't help you going around typo3 functions and methods. There is a purpose behind those things. - sorry
07:37 jade :(
07:35 just2b m4rtijn sure
07:35 just2b what doesnt work
07:35 jade dax77: can i do it in php??
07:35 jade anyway?
07:36 m4rtijn if I make a new record from my new extension.. I cant edit it as soon as I pick an Category.. I did smth which is really close to the tutorial CD collection..
07:36 m4rtijn I have one field which is database relation.. category.. as soon as I pick this I cant edit my records anymore.. it just shows an empty page..
07:37 dax77 jade: I won't help you going around typo3 functions and methods. There is a purpose behind those things. - sorry
07:37 jade :(
07:41 m4rtijn hmm, my mistake.. :p
07:42 just2b hehe ;)
07:41 m4rtijn hmm, my mistake.. :p
07:42 just2b hehe ;)
07:48 Strud hi there. my install of typo3 (3.81) is outputting an extra blank line on top of the page
07:49 Strud so it's breaking the xml feeds... I can still see the pages normally as html
07:49 Strud but there is that extra line, and I don't have a clue where it can come from...
07:49 Strud I figured it can't be from a template, since creating a new root level page without a template generates the well-known error, but still with the extra line on top
07:49 Strud any ideas?
07:48 Strud hi there. my install of typo3 (3.81) is outputting an extra blank line on top of the page
07:49 Strud so it's breaking the xml feeds... I can still see the pages normally as html
07:49 Strud but there is that extra line, and I don't have a clue where it can come from...
07:49 Strud I figured it can't be from a template, since creating a new root level page without a template generates the well-known error, but still with the extra line on top
07:49 Strud any ideas?
07:50 just2b strud > there are whitespaces in one possible extension file
07:50 just2b deinstall ALL extensions and you will see ;)
07:50 just2b ALL but not core extensions ;)
07:51 fabian-k hi
07:52 s-andersen hi
07:53 kv0s Hi!
07:53 fabian-k how can I "clean" my draft-workspace?
07:54 fabian-k I just want to see the same entrys like my live-workspace
07:54 kv0s Does anybody has an idea how i can produce some links as ...
07:54 kv0s .... http://www.freizeittaucher-marbach.de/jugend instead of http://www.freizeittaucher-marbach.de/Jugend.442.0.html
07:50 just2b strud > there are whitespaces in one possible extension file
07:50 just2b deinstall ALL extensions and you will see ;)
07:50 just2b ALL but not core extensions ;)
07:51 fabian-k hi
07:52 s-andersen hi
07:53 kv0s Hi!
07:53 fabian-k how can I "clean" my draft-workspace?
07:54 fabian-k I just want to see the same entrys like my live-workspace
07:54 kv0s Does anybody has an idea how i can produce some links as ...
07:54 kv0s .... http://www.freizeittaucher-marbach.de/jugend instead of http://www.freizeittaucher-marbach.de/Jugend.442.0.html
07:56 just2b kv0s use realurl
07:56 fabian-k kv0s: http://www.t3h.de/index.php?id=153
07:56 just2b strudd, pan.. stop it
07:56 Struddd damn nickserv
07:56 Struddd apparently it belongs to someone
07:56 Struddd sorry
07:56 just2b kv0s use realurl
07:56 fabian-k kv0s: http://www.t3h.de/index.php?id=153
07:56 just2b strudd, pan.. stop it
07:56 Struddd damn nickserv
07:56 Struddd apparently it belongs to someone
07:56 Struddd sorry
08:02 Struddd just2b: but typo3 parses the extensions even for an error page?
08:03 just2b yeah
08:03 Struddd damn...
08:03 just2b you can deinstall exts faster in localconf > extlist
08:03 just2b need to clear temp files afterwards
08:04 just2b i got that problem once too.. so trust me
08:04 kv0s fabian-k: Thanks. Installed, but getting: Unsupported TypoScript property was found in this template: "config.baseURL="1"
08:04 kv0s ???
08:02 Struddd just2b: but typo3 parses the extensions even for an error page?
08:03 just2b yeah
08:03 Struddd damn...
08:03 just2b you can deinstall exts faster in localconf > extlist
08:03 just2b need to clear temp files afterwards
08:04 just2b i got that problem once too.. so trust me
08:04 kv0s fabian-k: Thanks. Installed, but getting: Unsupported TypoScript property was found in this template: "config.baseURL="1"
08:04 kv0s ???
08:05 fabian-k config.baseURL = http://www.youdomain.com/
08:05 Struddd mmm... I don't have access to the install tool
08:05 fabian-k so it have to be#
08:05 Struddd it's just the way our sysadmins created this...
08:06 s-andersen Struddd: You could install quixplorer, then you have access to the localconf.php
08:06 anand Hello dax77
08:07 anand i need to implement a address plugin
08:09 just2b anand and the question is?
08:05 fabian-k config.baseURL = http://www.youdomain.com/
08:05 Struddd mmm... I don't have access to the install tool
08:05 fabian-k so it have to be#
08:05 Struddd it's just the way our sysadmins created this...
08:06 s-andersen Struddd: You could install quixplorer, then you have access to the localconf.php
08:06 anand Hello dax77
08:07 anand i need to implement a address plugin
08:09 just2b anand and the question is?
08:11 fabian-k just2b: how can I delete all "drafts" in my draft-workspace at once? I want to copy all my live-entrys to the draft-workspace...
08:11 just2b fabian-k dont know.. but i read your question already before
08:12 fabian-k ah okay
08:12 fabian-k sry
08:12 anand I want to show postal address, business adress alongwith phone numbers on my template
08:12 anand just2b:
08:12 anand just2b:how can i do this?
08:12 Struddd just2b: do the required extensions appear on extlist or can I safely remove the whole line (leaving it empty obviously)
08:13 kv0s fabian-k: Mhm. Just add the lines to localconf.php?
08:13 just2b Struddd dont remove all ;)
08:13 anand Hello just2b
08:14 anand did you get it?
08:14 fabian-k kv0s: right. copy the PHP-lines to your localconf.php
08:14 just2b anand tt_address shoukld be fine
08:11 fabian-k just2b: how can I delete all "drafts" in my draft-workspace at once? I want to copy all my live-entrys to the draft-workspace...
08:11 just2b fabian-k dont know.. but i read your question already before
08:12 fabian-k ah okay
08:12 fabian-k sry
08:12 anand I want to show postal address, business adress alongwith phone numbers on my template
08:12 anand just2b:
08:12 anand just2b:how can i do this?
08:12 Struddd just2b: do the required extensions appear on extlist or can I safely remove the whole line (leaving it empty obviously)
08:13 kv0s fabian-k: Mhm. Just add the lines to localconf.php?
08:13 just2b Struddd dont remove all ;)
08:13 anand Hello just2b
08:14 anand did you get it?
08:14 fabian-k kv0s: right. copy the PHP-lines to your localconf.php
08:14 just2b anand tt_address shoukld be fine
08:15 anand just2b:i have installed it .but how can we show multiple addresses?
08:15 just2b i rememeber a FE plugin
08:15 kv0s Hm. See http://www.freizeittaucher-marbach.de/ the links looks great, but it results in some apache error?!?
08:19 silithlas hi, anybody ever uses the cl_company_database extension? I wonder how to tell it where to find address categories, and the documentation explains nothing. Thanks
08:15 anand just2b:i have installed it .but how can we show multiple addresses?
08:15 just2b i rememeber a FE plugin
08:15 kv0s Hm. See http://www.freizeittaucher-marbach.de/ the links looks great, but it results in some apache error?!?
08:19 silithlas hi, anybody ever uses the cl_company_database extension? I wonder how to tell it where to find address categories, and the documentation explains nothing. Thanks
08:25 kv0s fabian-k: Any ideas regarding internal server error?
08:26 kv0s fabian-k: simulateStaticDocuments worked ... i've changed the lines in .htaccess ... added the two realurl lines to my template and made the configuration at localconf.php ... :-(
08:27 fabian-k did you set simulateStaticDocuments to 0?
08:28 fabian-k config.simulateStaticDocuments = 0
08:28 fabian-k config.baseURL = 1
08:28 fabian-k config.tx_realurl_enable = 1
08:28 fabian-k (3 Templatelines)
08:28 fabian-k uhm
08:28 kv0s Yes.
08:28 fabian-k stop
08:28 fabian-k config.baseURL = http://www.freizeittaucher-marbach.de/
08:28 kv0s So it is ...
08:28 fabian-k realurl installed?
08:29 fabian-k ^^
08:29 kv0s config.simulateStaticDocuments = 0
08:29 kv0s config.baseURL = http://www.freizeittaucher-marbach.de/
08:29 kv0s config.tx_realurl_enable = 1
08:29 kv0s my lines at my template ..
08:29 kv0s ;-)
08:25 kv0s fabian-k: Any ideas regarding internal server error?
08:26 kv0s fabian-k: simulateStaticDocuments worked ... i've changed the lines in .htaccess ... added the two realurl lines to my template and made the configuration at localconf.php ... :-(
08:27 fabian-k did you set simulateStaticDocuments to 0?
08:28 fabian-k config.simulateStaticDocuments = 0
08:28 fabian-k config.baseURL = 1
08:28 fabian-k config.tx_realurl_enable = 1
08:28 fabian-k (3 Templatelines)
08:28 fabian-k uhm
08:28 kv0s Yes.
08:28 fabian-k stop
08:28 fabian-k config.baseURL = http://www.freizeittaucher-marbach.de/
08:28 kv0s So it is ...
08:28 fabian-k realurl installed?
08:29 fabian-k ^^
08:29 kv0s config.simulateStaticDocuments = 0
08:29 kv0s config.baseURL = http://www.freizeittaucher-marbach.de/
08:29 kv0s config.tx_realurl_enable = 1
08:29 kv0s my lines at my template ..
08:29 kv0s ;-)
08:30 Jigal is there a way to change the HTML that is generated by the text w/image content object? (except for modifying the core files)
08:32 kv0s I've realurl installed - i can see it at typo3conf/ext/... and extension manager ... also it asked me to create some tables and so on ...
08:30 Jigal is there a way to change the HTML that is generated by the text w/image content object? (except for modifying the core files)
08:32 kv0s I've realurl installed - i can see it at typo3conf/ext/... and extension manager ... also it asked me to create some tables and so on ...
08:37 anand Hello dax77
08:37 just2b jiigal... TS?
08:38 just2b it is only ts
08:38 kv0s fabian-k: any further ideas?
08:38 anand hello dax77
08:39 dax77 hi anand, whats up?
08:39 anand doing fine n u?
08:39 dax77 sort of :)
08:39 anand dax77:I have a query regarding address list implementation
08:37 anand Hello dax77
08:37 just2b jiigal... TS?
08:38 just2b it is only ts
08:38 kv0s fabian-k: any further ideas?
08:38 anand hello dax77
08:39 dax77 hi anand, whats up?
08:39 anand doing fine n u?
08:39 dax77 sort of :)
08:39 anand dax77:I have a query regarding address list implementation
08:40 anand dax77:i have to display postal, business address alongwith email, tel and fax no.
08:40 anand dax77 on the template
08:40 fabian-k kv0s: no, not really :(
08:40 anand dax77:how can i implement this?
08:41 dax77 anand: $page = $this->cObj->fileResource($this->conf['view.']['event.']['eventTemplate']); // gets you the template
08:41 Jigal just2b: problem is the "<table border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0><tr><td valign=top>" that it puts in front of the actual content
08:42 Jigal just2b: is this hardcoded in class.tslib_content.php??
08:42 dax77 $sims = array('###STREET###' => 'mystreet'); // fill this array with the information you need
08:42 just2b jigal where do you get that?
08:43 dax77 $page = $this->cObj->substituteMarkerArrayCached($page, $sims, array(), array ()); // replace the marker inside your template with the information of the array
08:43 fabian-k kv0s: i think, your server didn't support realurl
08:43 dax77 return $page
08:43 Jigal just2b: in this site: http://www.filoform.nl/Producten.6.0.html
08:43 anand dax77:is there any extension?
08:43 dax77 anand: there are thousands ;)
08:43 kv0s fabian-k: Mhm. My server? Which requirements has realurl?
08:44 fabian-k mod_rewrite enabled.
08:44 just2b fabian this is from your template or an ext
08:44 anand dax77:i want to implement this as we did for search
08:44 Jigal just2b: it would very likely be okay if I could only add width="100%" to that table...
08:44 anand dax77: we have our own loook and feel for address with images for phone, fax
08:40 anand dax77:i have to display postal, business address alongwith email, tel and fax no.
08:40 anand dax77 on the template
08:40 fabian-k kv0s: no, not really :(
08:40 anand dax77:how can i implement this?
08:41 dax77 anand: $page = $this->cObj->fileResource($this->conf['view.']['event.']['eventTemplate']); // gets you the template
08:41 Jigal just2b: problem is the "<table border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0><tr><td valign=top>" that it puts in front of the actual content
08:42 Jigal just2b: is this hardcoded in class.tslib_content.php??
08:42 dax77 $sims = array('###STREET###' => 'mystreet'); // fill this array with the information you need
08:42 just2b jigal where do you get that?
08:43 dax77 $page = $this->cObj->substituteMarkerArrayCached($page, $sims, array(), array ()); // replace the marker inside your template with the information of the array
08:43 fabian-k kv0s: i think, your server didn't support realurl
08:43 dax77 return $page
08:43 Jigal just2b: in this site: http://www.filoform.nl/Producten.6.0.html
08:43 anand dax77:is there any extension?
08:43 dax77 anand: there are thousands ;)
08:43 kv0s fabian-k: Mhm. My server? Which requirements has realurl?
08:44 fabian-k mod_rewrite enabled.
08:44 just2b fabian this is from your template or an ext
08:44 anand dax77:i want to implement this as we did for search
08:44 Jigal just2b: it would very likely be okay if I could only add width="100%" to that table...
08:44 anand dax77: we have our own loook and feel for address with images for phone, fax
08:45 fabian-k my template
08:45 dax77 anand: aah, you don't have an extension already, but you are looking for one :)
08:45 s-andersen fabian-k: I think it was to Jigal :D
08:45 anand dax77: the address information should be configurable from the backend
08:45 fabian-k ok
08:45 fabian-k :D
08:45 anand dax77: yes i am looking for any plugin
08:46 Jigal just2b: I've searched in the ts browser, but I couldn't find this piece of html in relation with textpic/something like that
08:46 anand Bezoekadres:
08:46 anand Gemeentehuis
08:46 anand Dorpsplein 9
08:46 anand 5386 CL Geffen
08:46 anand Postadres:
08:46 anand Postbus 5
08:46 anand 5386 ZG Geffen
08:46 anand E-mail:
08:46 anand (obscured mail address)
08:46 anand 073 - 53 42 100
08:46 fabian-k o.O???
08:46 just2b oh come on anand
08:46 anand 073 - 53 21 945
08:46 anand sorry :)
08:46 fabian-k sick
08:47 just2b ah there is an ignore ;)
08:48 dax77 looks like you are looking for tt_address
08:48 dax77 ^anand
08:48 anand dax77:yes may be
08:48 dax77 and please use phpfi.com next time
08:48 dax77 and don't post personal data at all
08:48 anand dax77:ok sorry:)
08:45 fabian-k my template
08:45 dax77 anand: aah, you don't have an extension already, but you are looking for one :)
08:45 s-andersen fabian-k: I think it was to Jigal :D
08:45 anand dax77: the address information should be configurable from the backend
08:45 fabian-k ok
08:45 fabian-k :D
08:45 anand dax77: yes i am looking for any plugin
08:46 Jigal just2b: I've searched in the ts browser, but I couldn't find this piece of html in relation with textpic/something like that
08:46 anand Bezoekadres:
08:46 anand Gemeentehuis
08:46 anand Dorpsplein 9
08:46 anand 5386 CL Geffen
08:46 anand Postadres:
08:46 anand Postbus 5
08:46 anand 5386 ZG Geffen
08:46 anand E-mail:
08:46 anand (obscured mail address)
08:46 anand 073 - 53 42 100
08:46 fabian-k o.O???
08:46 just2b oh come on anand
08:46 anand 073 - 53 21 945
08:46 anand sorry :)
08:46 fabian-k sick
08:47 just2b ah there is an ignore ;)
08:48 dax77 looks like you are looking for tt_address
08:48 dax77 ^anand
08:48 anand dax77:yes may be
08:48 dax77 and please use phpfi.com next time
08:48 dax77 and don't post personal data at all
08:48 anand dax77:ok sorry:)
08:50 Jigal dax77: this data was luckily not very personal; it was only the address of the city hall in the town called Geffen
08:50 Jigal but I agree about not posting it here!
08:51 anand dax77:http://phpfi.com/259857
08:51 anand dax77: see for the format of address
08:50 Jigal dax77: this data was luckily not very personal; it was only the address of the city hall in the town called Geffen
08:50 Jigal but I agree about not posting it here!
08:51 anand dax77:http://phpfi.com/259857
08:51 anand dax77: see for the format of address
08:57 dax77 anand: you do the formating by yourself, nothing anyone else has an influence on
08:57 dax77 anand: http://typo3.org/extensions/repository/view/tt_address/2.1.0/
08:57 dax77 anand: you do the formating by yourself, nothing anyone else has an influence on
08:57 dax77 anand: http://typo3.org/extensions/repository/view/tt_address/2.1.0/
09:14 anand hello dax77
09:15 Layna Good morning, everybody. I have a problem with my print-view. The link is correct (index.php?id=34&type=98), but for some reason the HTML-template is not being used. I basically just took the code from the section "TypoScript Setup der Druckansicht" on this page: http://www.admin-wissen.de/tutorials/eigene-tutorials/webentwicklung/typo3-workshop/fortgeschrittene-themen/typo3-usability/druckansicht-mit-typo3/
09:14 anand hello dax77
09:15 Layna Good morning, everybody. I have a problem with my print-view. The link is correct (index.php?id=34&type=98), but for some reason the HTML-template is not being used. I basically just took the code from the section "TypoScript Setup der Druckansicht" on this page: http://www.admin-wissen.de/tutorials/eigene-tutorials/webentwicklung/typo3-workshop/fortgeschrittene-themen/typo3-usability/druckansicht-mit-typo3/
09:15 Layna anyone has an idea what's wrong with what I do?
09:15 Layna anyone has an idea what's wrong with what I do?
09:32 Jigal Layna: I haven't used the print-view with type=98 myself. I prefer making a CSS template for medium="print" where a lot of elements are hidden by display: none; No extra hits on the server, supported by most browsers and visitors can use the print command in their browser.
09:33 s-andersen I support Jigal's solution
09:34 Layna Hmmm... ok, now that you mention it, that makes sense ^^
09:32 Jigal Layna: I haven't used the print-view with type=98 myself. I prefer making a CSS template for medium="print" where a lot of elements are hidden by display: none; No extra hits on the server, supported by most browsers and visitors can use the print command in their browser.
09:33 s-andersen I support Jigal's solution
09:34 Layna Hmmm... ok, now that you mention it, that makes sense ^^
09:35 Layna Thanks.. could realyl have come up with that myself, thanks for the hint ^^
09:38 dax77 anand?
09:39 anand dax77: on problem i cannot see the added address
09:39 anand but only the title
09:35 Layna Thanks.. could realyl have come up with that myself, thanks for the hint ^^
09:38 dax77 anand?
09:39 anand dax77: on problem i cannot see the added address
09:39 anand but only the title
09:41 dax77 anand: did you read the manual?
09:43 anand yes
09:41 dax77 anand: did you read the manual?
09:43 anand yes
09:45 dax77 anand: do you have an online example?
09:47 anand dax77: i am working on my local machine
09:47 dax77 k
09:47 dax77 so you defined the starting point? cleared cache?
09:47 anand dax77:should i define starting point?
09:49 dax77 yes
09:45 dax77 anand: do you have an online example?
09:47 anand dax77: i am working on my local machine
09:47 dax77 k
09:47 dax77 so you defined the starting point? cleared cache?
09:47 anand dax77:should i define starting point?
09:49 dax77 yes
09:50 anand dax77: thanks i set the starting point to storage folder....it works
09:51 anand dax77: how can i implement this in template instead as a content item
09:54 dax77 anand: using TS. you can assign anything to a marker like this: mymarker < plugin.tx_address_pi1
09:54 dax77 than you can configure mymarker with the available options for tt_address: http://typo3.org/documentation/document-library/extension-manuals/tt_address/2.1.0/view/1/4/#id3499822
09:50 anand dax77: thanks i set the starting point to storage folder....it works
09:51 anand dax77: how can i implement this in template instead as a content item
09:54 dax77 anand: using TS. you can assign anything to a marker like this: mymarker < plugin.tx_address_pi1
09:54 dax77 than you can configure mymarker with the available options for tt_address: http://typo3.org/documentation/document-library/extension-manuals/tt_address/2.1.0/view/1/4/#id3499822
09:55 silithlas in an extension I have an email field. But when this field is displayed on my website, it is not protected against spammers as my others emails are... is there a way so this email is protected as well? Thanks
09:55 dax77 don't forget the pidList ;)
09:55 dax77 silithlas: cObj->typolink()
09:56 dax77 you have to use the typo way of creating links
09:56 anand dax77: if i have multiple address then
09:56 silithlas and we can do it regarding og the extension?
09:56 silithlas I even dunno if this extension supports field wrapping
09:57 anand dax77: i am using templavoila engine
09:57 dax77 anand: its nothing else than a script way of adding the plugin. if it works with the content plugin, it should work with the TS "plugin"
09:57 dax77 silithlas: I thought you said, you are inside an extension?
09:57 silithlas in fact I use the extension company_database
09:58 dax77 $this->cObj will be present in that extension, I suppose
09:59 silithlas I found a line if (strstr($this->cObj->currentRecord,"tt_content")) so I guess it is
09:55 silithlas in an extension I have an email field. But when this field is displayed on my website, it is not protected against spammers as my others emails are... is there a way so this email is protected as well? Thanks
09:55 dax77 don't forget the pidList ;)
09:55 dax77 silithlas: cObj->typolink()
09:56 dax77 you have to use the typo way of creating links
09:56 anand dax77: if i have multiple address then
09:56 silithlas and we can do it regarding og the extension?
09:56 silithlas I even dunno if this extension supports field wrapping
09:57 anand dax77: i am using templavoila engine
09:57 dax77 anand: its nothing else than a script way of adding the plugin. if it works with the content plugin, it should work with the TS "plugin"
09:57 dax77 silithlas: I thought you said, you are inside an extension?
09:57 silithlas in fact I use the extension company_database
09:58 dax77 $this->cObj will be present in that extension, I suppose
09:59 silithlas I found a line if (strstr($this->cObj->currentRecord,"tt_content")) so I guess it is
10:02 Fanty I have a dynamic array of data and I need the be user to choose from in a flexform.. Any suggestions on how I would go about making this select box when the data isen't located in a table?
10:02 dax77 silithlas: than have a look at typo3/sysext/cms/tslib/class.content.php there is the typolink function
10:02 anand dax77: can you show me an example on how to dot his?
10:02 Fanty I have a dynamic array of data and I need the be user to choose from in a flexform.. Any suggestions on how I would go about making this select box when the data isen't located in a table?
10:02 dax77 silithlas: than have a look at typo3/sysext/cms/tslib/class.content.php there is the typolink function
10:02 anand dax77: can you show me an example on how to dot his?
10:31 dax77 anand: http://phpfi.com/259870
10:31 dax77 re
10:31 dax77 anand: http://phpfi.com/259870
10:31 dax77 re
10:42 anand dax77: i made the marker, the address is stored in the storage folder
10:42 anand dax77:it's id is 3..
10:42 anand dax77: i made the marker, the address is stored in the storage folder
10:42 anand dax77:it's id is 3..
10:46 dax77 anand: sooo? what you just said, plus my link should bring the solution, right?
10:48 anand dax77:no i am not able see the address record
10:49 anand dax77:http://phpfi.com/259874
10:46 dax77 anand: sooo? what you just said, plus my link should bring the solution, right?
10:48 anand dax77:no i am not able see the address record
10:49 anand dax77:http://phpfi.com/259874
10:59 just2b re
10:59 anand dax77
10:59 just2b re
10:59 anand dax77
11:03 anand dax77: r u there?
11:03 anand dax77: r u there?
11:10 dax77 still there and testing myself ;)
11:11 anand dax77:ok
11:10 dax77 still there and testing myself ;)
11:11 anand dax77:ok
11:18 julie hello everybody
11:19 julie how can i use ajax in typo3 front end?
11:19 dax77 anand: got it :)
11:19 julie is there any library
11:19 anand dax77:how?
11:18 julie hello everybody
11:19 julie how can i use ajax in typo3 front end?
11:19 dax77 anand: got it :)
11:19 julie is there any library
11:19 anand dax77:how?
11:20 Fanty How do I get a class included from a flexform.xml file?
11:20 Fanty php class*
11:21 julie which ajax platform is best for typo3 FE???
11:21 just2b there is no the best
11:21 dax77 anand: http://phpfi.com/259882
11:21 just2b i like mootools
11:22 dax77 Fanty: I think thats not possible -> xml can't include php
11:22 Fanty dax77: how do I use itemsProcFunc in flexforms then?
11:23 dax77 aha, thats a different thing :)
11:23 julie just2b: have u implemented mootools in FE??
11:24 just2b julie, yes
11:24 just2b several extensions
11:20 Fanty How do I get a class included from a flexform.xml file?
11:20 Fanty php class*
11:21 julie which ajax platform is best for typo3 FE???
11:21 just2b there is no the best
11:21 dax77 anand: http://phpfi.com/259882
11:21 just2b i like mootools
11:22 dax77 Fanty: I think thats not possible -> xml can't include php
11:22 Fanty dax77: how do I use itemsProcFunc in flexforms then?
11:23 dax77 aha, thats a different thing :)
11:23 julie just2b: have u implemented mootools in FE??
11:24 just2b julie, yes
11:24 just2b several extensions
11:25 julie is there a mootool extension for typo3 or just i just use mootools original library?
11:25 just2b you can do both
11:25 just2b i use the t3mootools
11:25 pmk65 http://typo3.org/extensions/repository/view/t3mootools/1.0.0/
11:27 anand dax77: still doesnt work
11:27 dax77 Fanty: normally its pretty much the same as in tca, just that the index is the tag
11:28 Fanty I get a "No class named ...."
11:28 Fanty error in the Be
11:28 dax77 anand: it works here :)
11:28 julie is there any prototype extension for typo3
11:28 julie ?
11:29 just2b i think so.. just search
11:29 dax77 Fanty: http://svn.webempoweredchurch.org/calendar/browser/trunk/cal/res/flexform1_ds.xml line 450
11:29 anand dax77:my address group and address is stored in storage folder
11:25 julie is there a mootool extension for typo3 or just i just use mootools original library?
11:25 just2b you can do both
11:25 just2b i use the t3mootools
11:25 pmk65 http://typo3.org/extensions/repository/view/t3mootools/1.0.0/
11:27 anand dax77: still doesnt work
11:27 dax77 Fanty: normally its pretty much the same as in tca, just that the index is the tag
11:28 Fanty I get a "No class named ...."
11:28 Fanty error in the Be
11:28 dax77 anand: it works here :)
11:28 julie is there any prototype extension for typo3
11:28 julie ?
11:29 just2b i think so.. just search
11:29 dax77 Fanty: http://svn.webempoweredchurch.org/calendar/browser/trunk/cal/res/flexform1_ds.xml line 450
11:29 anand dax77:my address group and address is stored in storage folder
11:30 dax77 Fanty: did you include it in the ext_tables.php?
11:30 anand dax77:should i use the id of the page where the address plugin is inserted?
11:30 Fanty dax77: where is the script containing the tx_cal_itemsProcFunc class included?
11:30 dax77 include_once(t3lib_extMgm::extPath('cal').'res/class.tx_cal_itemsProcFunc.php');
11:31 dax77 ^in ext_tables.php
11:31 Fanty dax77: in ext_tables.php ? Isen't that a no-no - that way the class will be included on every pagehit wont it?
11:31 dax77 no, that would be tca
11:32 dax77 ext_tables is only loaded if load_tca is called
11:32 Franzen Hi all. I have a little problem with one of my sites. What i need, or want to do is for the user when he login he automaticly gets redirected to the frontpage. Thats fine. What i want to do is for the user lets say he is the user to update "Danish" language on the site i want him automaticly redirected the the danish language ID. but how?
11:33 Fanty dax77: ok, when does load_tca get called? and what about ext_localconf.php?
11:33 julie hey guys, i m using prototype.js to use ajax. im calling a javascript function
11:33 julie now the problem is that the javascript function needs to call the plugin main method
11:33 julie how do i do that?
11:34 dax77 Fanty: actually its t3lib_div::loadTCA, and it gets called when you want to edit a record. ext_localconf..... hmm, don't know
11:34 julie cause when i do that it returns error
11:34 julie Notice: Use of undefined constant PATH_tslib - assumed 'PATH_tslib' in F:\Projects\Tom_Husler\typo3conf\ext\user_projects\pi1\class.user_projects_pi1.php on line 25
11:30 dax77 Fanty: did you include it in the ext_tables.php?
11:30 anand dax77:should i use the id of the page where the address plugin is inserted?
11:30 Fanty dax77: where is the script containing the tx_cal_itemsProcFunc class included?
11:30 dax77 include_once(t3lib_extMgm::extPath('cal').'res/class.tx_cal_itemsProcFunc.php');
11:31 dax77 ^in ext_tables.php
11:31 Fanty dax77: in ext_tables.php ? Isen't that a no-no - that way the class will be included on every pagehit wont it?
11:31 dax77 no, that would be tca
11:32 dax77 ext_tables is only loaded if load_tca is called
11:32 Franzen Hi all. I have a little problem with one of my sites. What i need, or want to do is for the user when he login he automaticly gets redirected to the frontpage. Thats fine. What i want to do is for the user lets say he is the user to update "Danish" language on the site i want him automaticly redirected the the danish language ID. but how?
11:33 Fanty dax77: ok, when does load_tca get called? and what about ext_localconf.php?
11:33 julie hey guys, i m using prototype.js to use ajax. im calling a javascript function
11:33 julie now the problem is that the javascript function needs to call the plugin main method
11:33 julie how do i do that?
11:34 dax77 Fanty: actually its t3lib_div::loadTCA, and it gets called when you want to edit a record. ext_localconf..... hmm, don't know
11:34 julie cause when i do that it returns error
11:34 julie Notice: Use of undefined constant PATH_tslib - assumed 'PATH_tslib' in F:\Projects\Tom_Husler\typo3conf\ext\user_projects\pi1\class.user_projects_pi1.php on line 25
11:35 dax77 julie: than define it ;)
11:35 dax77 if (!defined('PATH_tslib')) define('PATH_tslib', t3lib_extMgm::extPath('cms').'tslib/');
11:36 julie no actually i think this error is occurring coz i m calling this pluign file using javascript
11:36 Fanty dax77: if I type asdhfjkdf in my ext_tables.php file for the extension and clears the typo3conf cache *no* pages work
11:36 anand dax77:have any idea?
11:37 Fanty dax77: seems very much like ext_tables.php always is executed
11:37 dax77 julie: eID way?
11:37 julie eID???
11:37 dax77 anand: nope. I copied my working solution. since I can't have a look at yours, you have to find out yourself :(
11:38 dax77 julie: well, how do you call your plugin?
11:38 julie dax: can u guide how to set an eID to a page?
11:38 julie i want to call my plugin main method using javascript using ajax
11:39 dax77 Fanty: I think it is only executed the first time, but I may mistaken
11:39 just2b julie or with xml
11:39 julie no the plugin will only return html
11:39 dax77 julie: google for "typo3 + eid" ;)
11:39 julie i m using Ajax.updater of protype.js file
11:39 Fanty I think all ext_tables.php files are compiled into a temp_CACHED_xxxxxx_ext_tables.php file in typo3conf/ which is run on *all* page hits
11:35 dax77 julie: than define it ;)
11:35 dax77 if (!defined('PATH_tslib')) define('PATH_tslib', t3lib_extMgm::extPath('cms').'tslib/');
11:36 julie no actually i think this error is occurring coz i m calling this pluign file using javascript
11:36 Fanty dax77: if I type asdhfjkdf in my ext_tables.php file for the extension and clears the typo3conf cache *no* pages work
11:36 anand dax77:have any idea?
11:37 Fanty dax77: seems very much like ext_tables.php always is executed
11:37 dax77 julie: eID way?
11:37 julie eID???
11:37 dax77 anand: nope. I copied my working solution. since I can't have a look at yours, you have to find out yourself :(
11:38 dax77 julie: well, how do you call your plugin?
11:38 julie dax: can u guide how to set an eID to a page?
11:38 julie i want to call my plugin main method using javascript using ajax
11:39 dax77 Fanty: I think it is only executed the first time, but I may mistaken
11:39 just2b julie or with xml
11:39 julie no the plugin will only return html
11:39 dax77 julie: google for "typo3 + eid" ;)
11:39 julie i m using Ajax.updater of protype.js file
11:39 Fanty I think all ext_tables.php files are compiled into a temp_CACHED_xxxxxx_ext_tables.php file in typo3conf/ which is run on *all* page hits
11:40 dax77 Fanty: what was the initial problem? :)
11:40 Fanty dax77: to include a script with a large class within it :)
11:41 Fanty dax77: in a way that makes it accessible to the flexform I need it in
11:41 pmk65 julie: If you need to define TYPO3 paths outside of the TYPO3 framework (cli scripts etc.) you can do it like this: http://phpfi.com/259889
11:41 julie let me check it
11:43 dax77 Fanty: http://wiki.typo3.org/index.php/Extension_Development%2C_using_Flexforms#Dynamic_Data_in_Flexforms
11:44 julie pmk65: but how does it help me to call the plugin file using javascript function
11:44 julie ???
11:44 dax77 julie: do you understand german?
11:44 Fanty dax77: so.. no good way to do it that would not include the class on every hit but only when its needed - but thanks :)
11:44 julie sorry no
11:40 dax77 Fanty: what was the initial problem? :)
11:40 Fanty dax77: to include a script with a large class within it :)
11:41 Fanty dax77: in a way that makes it accessible to the flexform I need it in
11:41 pmk65 julie: If you need to define TYPO3 paths outside of the TYPO3 framework (cli scripts etc.) you can do it like this: http://phpfi.com/259889
11:41 julie let me check it
11:43 dax77 Fanty: http://wiki.typo3.org/index.php/Extension_Development%2C_using_Flexforms#Dynamic_Data_in_Flexforms
11:44 julie pmk65: but how does it help me to call the plugin file using javascript function
11:44 julie ???
11:44 dax77 julie: do you understand german?
11:44 Fanty dax77: so.. no good way to do it that would not include the class on every hit but only when its needed - but thanks :)
11:44 julie sorry no
11:45 julie dax77: i search eid but i found nothing regarding it
11:46 pmk65 julie: If you call a PHP file from Javascript, then you don't have access to the TYPO3 scope of functions directly. You'll first have to include and activate each needed class manually.
11:47 julie how do i activate each classs manually?
11:47 dax77 julie: is a podcast an option? -> http://castor.t3o.punkt.de/files/podkast12_v4_techinsight_ajax.m4v
11:48 julie dax77: i have no podcast
11:48 julie any website u want to refer?
11:48 dax77 but you can watch vidoes, right?
11:48 julie yea
11:48 dax77 its a normal vidoe
11:48 dax77 video
11:49 julie do i need a player for it to play?
11:49 dax77 http://www.videolan.org/vlc/
11:49 dax77 ^the ultimate player for free
11:45 julie dax77: i search eid but i found nothing regarding it
11:46 pmk65 julie: If you call a PHP file from Javascript, then you don't have access to the TYPO3 scope of functions directly. You'll first have to include and activate each needed class manually.
11:47 julie how do i activate each classs manually?
11:47 dax77 julie: is a podcast an option? -> http://castor.t3o.punkt.de/files/podkast12_v4_techinsight_ajax.m4v
11:48 julie dax77: i have no podcast
11:48 julie any website u want to refer?
11:48 dax77 but you can watch vidoes, right?
11:48 julie yea
11:48 dax77 its a normal vidoe
11:48 dax77 video
11:49 julie do i need a player for it to play?
11:49 dax77 http://www.videolan.org/vlc/
11:49 dax77 ^the ultimate player for free
11:50 dax77 brb
11:50 pmk65 julie: http://phpfi.com/259892 <-- That's how I install and activate various T3 classes I need in my external script. It is then loaded like this: require (dirname(__FILE__).'/advanced_connect.php');
11:50 julie will this tutorail really help me regarding my prblem
11:50 dax77 brb
11:50 pmk65 julie: http://phpfi.com/259892 <-- That's how I install and activate various T3 classes I need in my external script. It is then loaded like this: require (dirname(__FILE__).'/advanced_connect.php');
11:50 julie will this tutorail really help me regarding my prblem
11:56 julie dax77: u there?
11:56 julie dax77: u there?
12:01 dax77 re
12:02 dax77 julie: no, I thought it would just be a waste of time..... OF COURSE IT'LL HELP YOU!!!! :)
12:02 anand dax77:do you have personal chat address?
12:03 anand dax77:so that i can show my work online
12:03 dax77 not right now, I'm at work
12:03 dax77 but you can always do a private querry
12:03 anand dax77: but i need to send the username and password?
12:04 julie dax77: do i include this script above of my plugin script?
12:04 dax77 julie: script?
12:01 dax77 re
12:02 dax77 julie: no, I thought it would just be a waste of time..... OF COURSE IT'LL HELP YOU!!!! :)
12:02 anand dax77:do you have personal chat address?
12:03 anand dax77:so that i can show my work online
12:03 dax77 not right now, I'm at work
12:03 dax77 but you can always do a private querry
12:03 anand dax77: but i need to send the username and password?
12:04 julie dax77: do i include this script above of my plugin script?
12:04 dax77 julie: script?
12:05 julie the one u pasted in phpfi.com
12:06 dax77 can you give me that link, I've posted many things :)
12:06 julie http://phpfi.com/259892
12:07 julie this one
12:08 ries morning
12:05 julie the one u pasted in phpfi.com
12:06 dax77 can you give me that link, I've posted many things :)
12:06 julie http://phpfi.com/259892
12:07 julie this one
12:08 ries morning
12:10 julie dax77: u got the link?
12:14 dax77 julie: thats not my stuff ;)
12:14 dax77 hola ries :)
12:10 julie dax77: u got the link?
12:14 dax77 julie: thats not my stuff ;)
12:14 dax77 hola ries :)
12:15 julie oh so sorry i didnt read ur name
12:15 julie but have u read it
12:15 julie can i use it to solve my problem?
12:15 ries Hola dax77 , como estas?
12:16 dax77 thats a cli script, I think you should go the eid way
12:16 dax77 ries: bien
12:16 julie i m searching alot on eid
12:17 julie hope some day i find help on it
12:17 dax77 and the podcast?
12:17 julie still downloading.....
12:17 dax77 it'll give you the kick
12:17 ries julie: You need to have a full BE in your eID script?
12:18 julie ries: no actually i want to call a php plugin function using javascript ajax call
12:18 dax77 ries: julie just wants to call his plugin through javascript.....eID, I'd say
12:18 ries I said BE, I did mean FE....
12:18 julie dax77 told me that i should use eid
12:19 ries julie: you can do it through eID, but why not create a page type?
12:19 just2b puh if all the things of a plugin are needed.. i still would prefer the 2nd page type
12:19 dax77 k, depends on whats needed
12:19 julie i want the simple and easy way to achieve this
12:15 julie oh so sorry i didnt read ur name
12:15 julie but have u read it
12:15 julie can i use it to solve my problem?
12:15 ries Hola dax77 , como estas?
12:16 dax77 thats a cli script, I think you should go the eid way
12:16 dax77 ries: bien
12:16 julie i m searching alot on eid
12:17 julie hope some day i find help on it
12:17 dax77 and the podcast?
12:17 julie still downloading.....
12:17 dax77 it'll give you the kick
12:17 ries julie: You need to have a full BE in your eID script?
12:18 julie ries: no actually i want to call a php plugin function using javascript ajax call
12:18 dax77 ries: julie just wants to call his plugin through javascript.....eID, I'd say
12:18 ries I said BE, I did mean FE....
12:18 julie dax77 told me that i should use eid
12:19 ries julie: you can do it through eID, but why not create a page type?
12:19 just2b puh if all the things of a plugin are needed.. i still would prefer the 2nd page type
12:19 dax77 k, depends on whats needed
12:19 julie i want the simple and easy way to achieve this
12:20 just2b page type
12:20 julie i hope eID is the simple solution ?
12:20 just2b no
12:20 just2b cause you need to do more things on yourself
12:20 julie so what u suggest?
12:20 dax77 just2b: why no?
12:20 just2b if cobj and gifbuilder and that stuff needed > no speed improvement anymore
12:20 dax77 just2b: I'd say, it depends on what you want to achieve
12:20 just2b of course
12:20 dax77 aha
12:21 silithlas when an extension has a cObject in it, it is always possible to wrap datas of this extension to suit our needs?
12:21 dax77 so let julie tell us what the goal is
12:21 julie i m so much confused by ur discussion guys
12:21 dax77 silithlas: yes
12:21 julie what should i do??
12:22 dax77 julie: tell us, what you want your plugin to do when it is called
12:22 dax77 you = your
12:22 dax77 forget it
12:22 ries julie: eID was more create for high speed DB access for suggestion boxes...
12:22 ries julie: creating a page type is much more easy
12:22 julie i want my plugin to connect to DB and gets some records and show them
12:23 silithlas dax77: I'm still trying to figure out how to wrap datas from the company database extension :) I try to read the php file but it is quite hard to understand what I should put in typoscript in my template to wrap the datas :) and if I look at object editor, I do see only a listView item and not the singleView I need
12:23 dax77 julie: any template stuff you need?
12:23 just2b if you want speed > eid
12:23 ries julie: what you can do is make a simple lib
12:23 ries then you can use the lib from your eID... but then you don't need FE and TS settings....
12:23 julie no dax77 no template stuff
12:23 ries julie: if you 'just' need DB records... then use eID
12:24 ries if you need any settings based on TS configs, then it's almost better to use a page type
12:24 julie i just want to get and show records thats it
12:24 julie so i think eID would be the best
12:24 ries julie: then use eID.... init teh DB and do your calls...
12:20 just2b page type
12:20 julie i hope eID is the simple solution ?
12:20 just2b no
12:20 just2b cause you need to do more things on yourself
12:20 julie so what u suggest?
12:20 dax77 just2b: why no?
12:20 just2b if cobj and gifbuilder and that stuff needed > no speed improvement anymore
12:20 dax77 just2b: I'd say, it depends on what you want to achieve
12:20 just2b of course
12:20 dax77 aha
12:21 silithlas when an extension has a cObject in it, it is always possible to wrap datas of this extension to suit our needs?
12:21 dax77 so let julie tell us what the goal is
12:21 julie i m so much confused by ur discussion guys
12:21 dax77 silithlas: yes
12:21 julie what should i do??
12:22 dax77 julie: tell us, what you want your plugin to do when it is called
12:22 dax77 you = your
12:22 dax77 forget it
12:22 ries julie: eID was more create for high speed DB access for suggestion boxes...
12:22 ries julie: creating a page type is much more easy
12:22 julie i want my plugin to connect to DB and gets some records and show them
12:23 silithlas dax77: I'm still trying to figure out how to wrap datas from the company database extension :) I try to read the php file but it is quite hard to understand what I should put in typoscript in my template to wrap the datas :) and if I look at object editor, I do see only a listView item and not the singleView I need
12:23 dax77 julie: any template stuff you need?
12:23 just2b if you want speed > eid
12:23 ries julie: what you can do is make a simple lib
12:23 ries then you can use the lib from your eID... but then you don't need FE and TS settings....
12:23 julie no dax77 no template stuff
12:23 ries julie: if you 'just' need DB records... then use eID
12:24 ries if you need any settings based on TS configs, then it's almost better to use a page type
12:24 julie i just want to get and show records thats it
12:24 julie so i think eID would be the best
12:24 ries julie: then use eID.... init teh DB and do your calls...
12:25 just2b yeah sorry dax g
12:26 julie ries: can u tell me a brief working on eID
12:26 julie i mean how he works
12:26 julie it
12:27 dax77 just2b: kneel down and receive your proper punishment :D
12:27 ries julie: can you call your eID script already?
12:27 just2b dax.. ROFL.. yeah sure :D
12:27 dax77 :)
12:28 julie no actually im downloading a movie file sent by dax77
12:28 julie i m waiting for it to be downloaded
12:28 dax77 ^the podcast
12:28 julie :(
12:28 julie yah
12:28 m4rtijn re
12:28 dax77 wb m4rtijn
12:28 m4rtijn ty :)
12:29 julie ries: is the eID is the url which will connect the database for me?
12:29 ries julie: you need to add something like this to your ext_localconf.php : $TYPO3_CONF_VARS['FE']['eID_include']['abs_sit'] = 'EXT:abs_galleries/eid/send_image_thumb.php';
12:25 just2b yeah sorry dax g
12:26 julie ries: can u tell me a brief working on eID
12:26 julie i mean how he works
12:26 julie it
12:27 dax77 just2b: kneel down and receive your proper punishment :D
12:27 ries julie: can you call your eID script already?
12:27 just2b dax.. ROFL.. yeah sure :D
12:27 dax77 :)
12:28 julie no actually im downloading a movie file sent by dax77
12:28 julie i m waiting for it to be downloaded
12:28 dax77 ^the podcast
12:28 julie :(
12:28 julie yah
12:28 m4rtijn re
12:28 dax77 wb m4rtijn
12:28 m4rtijn ty :)
12:29 julie ries: is the eID is the url which will connect the database for me?
12:29 ries julie: you need to add something like this to your ext_localconf.php : $TYPO3_CONF_VARS['FE']['eID_include']['abs_sit'] = 'EXT:abs_galleries/eid/send_image_thumb.php';
12:30 ries abs_sit is the name of the eID, and the value is the path to the script
12:30 ries so it can be called like : index.php?eID=abs_sit&param1=1&param2=2.........
12:30 ries julie: got that?
12:30 just2b waht is best ext for a print-page to get url + &type=98
12:31 m4rtijn I just studied the "extension kickstarter tut" quite thuroughfully.. but I have a small problem.. instead of placing all my records on the same page as my plugin is inserted.. I would like to have folders for my categories.. But as soon as I pick "select records from storage pid" and not "current page" I lose the functionality to choose which categories to show on the frontend.. :(
12:31 ries just2b: a printer??? :D
12:31 just2b oh come on ries ;)
12:32 ries just2b: I never make print pages.... but just with CSS....
12:32 just2b but if customer wants it?
12:32 ries just2b: themm him using CSS is better... then peopel just have to press the print button and off it goes...
12:33 ries I did had one client that REALLY wanted to have blue backgrounds on the print.... impossible to do so
12:33 just2b print button in browser ?
12:33 julie ries: i have only localconf.php file in my folder
12:33 julie should i add this line in it?
12:33 ries julie: in your extension you need to create an ext_localconf.php file
12:34 ries just2b: there is really no need to make a a link to a page type for print purposes since you can control it with CSS..
12:34 ries you can make a print button... for users to access the print function of the browser... but CSS can control how it will look on paper
12:30 ries abs_sit is the name of the eID, and the value is the path to the script
12:30 ries so it can be called like : index.php?eID=abs_sit&param1=1&param2=2.........
12:30 ries julie: got that?
12:30 just2b waht is best ext for a print-page to get url + &type=98
12:31 m4rtijn I just studied the "extension kickstarter tut" quite thuroughfully.. but I have a small problem.. instead of placing all my records on the same page as my plugin is inserted.. I would like to have folders for my categories.. But as soon as I pick "select records from storage pid" and not "current page" I lose the functionality to choose which categories to show on the frontend.. :(
12:31 ries just2b: a printer??? :D
12:31 just2b oh come on ries ;)
12:32 ries just2b: I never make print pages.... but just with CSS....
12:32 just2b but if customer wants it?
12:32 ries just2b: themm him using CSS is better... then peopel just have to press the print button and off it goes...
12:33 ries I did had one client that REALLY wanted to have blue backgrounds on the print.... impossible to do so
12:33 just2b print button in browser ?
12:33 julie ries: i have only localconf.php file in my folder
12:33 julie should i add this line in it?
12:33 ries julie: in your extension you need to create an ext_localconf.php file
12:34 ries just2b: there is really no need to make a a link to a page type for print purposes since you can control it with CSS..
12:34 ries you can make a print button... for users to access the print function of the browser... but CSS can control how it will look on paper
12:35 just2b you know a function for 2nd?
12:35 ries just2b: You just add a print CSS....
12:35 ries or actually... you just add the print CSS to your page
12:36 ries and then a JS function can invoke the printer dialog
12:36 just2b ah I have one in my ext
12:36 ries just2b: http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-CSS2/page.html
12:37 julie ries: i have written this line in my ext_localconf.php
12:37 julie $TYPO3_CONF_VARS['FE']['eID_include']['abs_sit'] = 'EXT:user_projects/pi1/class.user_projects_pi1.php';
12:37 julie is it ok?
12:37 ries julie: I would make it a seperate `php file rather then trying to include your pi1
12:38 ries also rename abs_sit to something that is appropriate for you
12:35 just2b you know a function for 2nd?
12:35 ries just2b: You just add a print CSS....
12:35 ries or actually... you just add the print CSS to your page
12:36 ries and then a JS function can invoke the printer dialog
12:36 just2b ah I have one in my ext
12:36 ries just2b: http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-CSS2/page.html
12:37 julie ries: i have written this line in my ext_localconf.php
12:37 julie $TYPO3_CONF_VARS['FE']['eID_include']['abs_sit'] = 'EXT:user_projects/pi1/class.user_projects_pi1.php';
12:37 julie is it ok?
12:37 ries julie: I would make it a seperate `php file rather then trying to include your pi1
12:38 ries also rename abs_sit to something that is appropriate for you
12:40 cochones hi, i have a problem with typo3, i have some tables and a css file where are some classes defined, now I want to use these classes whith the tables but the table don't use it
12:40 julie ries: $TYPO3_CONF_VARS['FE']['eID_include']['ajax_gallery'] = 'EXT:fileadmin/templates/php/show_gallery.php'; is this ok now
12:40 julie ?
12:40 ries julie: why not: $TYPO3_CONF_VARS['FE']['eID_include']['ajax_gallery'] ='EXT:user_projects/eid/show_gallery.php';
12:41 julie is the user_projects will be located in typo3conf/ext??
12:42 julie i want to separate ajax files from normal php files thats why i put it in fileadmin/templates
12:42 ries julie: I am assuming that user_projects is an extension....
12:42 ries your extension you are making
12:42 ries if it's just a seperate file, then do it like this
12:42 ries $TYPO3_CONF_VARS['FE']['eID_include']['ajax_gallery'] = 'fileadmin/templates/php/show_gallery.php';
12:42 ries But I assume it's part of an extension, right?
12:42 julie $TYPO3_CONF_VARS['FE']['eID_include']['ajax_gallery'] = 'EXT:user_projects/eid/show_gallery.php';
12:43 julie now ok?
12:44 julie ries: is it ok now
12:40 cochones hi, i have a problem with typo3, i have some tables and a css file where are some classes defined, now I want to use these classes whith the tables but the table don't use it
12:40 julie ries: $TYPO3_CONF_VARS['FE']['eID_include']['ajax_gallery'] = 'EXT:fileadmin/templates/php/show_gallery.php'; is this ok now
12:40 julie ?
12:40 ries julie: why not: $TYPO3_CONF_VARS['FE']['eID_include']['ajax_gallery'] ='EXT:user_projects/eid/show_gallery.php';
12:41 julie is the user_projects will be located in typo3conf/ext??
12:42 julie i want to separate ajax files from normal php files thats why i put it in fileadmin/templates
12:42 ries julie: I am assuming that user_projects is an extension....
12:42 ries your extension you are making
12:42 ries if it's just a seperate file, then do it like this
12:42 ries $TYPO3_CONF_VARS['FE']['eID_include']['ajax_gallery'] = 'fileadmin/templates/php/show_gallery.php';
12:42 ries But I assume it's part of an extension, right?
12:42 julie $TYPO3_CONF_VARS['FE']['eID_include']['ajax_gallery'] = 'EXT:user_projects/eid/show_gallery.php';
12:43 julie now ok?
12:44 julie ries: is it ok now
12:45 ries julie: do you have an extension under typo3conf/ext with the name user_projects ?
12:45 julie yes
12:48 julie http://localhost/Tom_Husler/index.php?eID=ajax_gallery
12:48 julie i m using this link
12:48 julie but the php file is not calling
12:48 ries I feel it's better to put all PHP script that belong to eachother under one extension....
12:48 julie its showing blank screen
12:48 ries make your show_gallery.php simple
12:48 ries just put this in there
12:48 ries <?php
12:48 julie yes i have make that
12:48 ries print 'julie is smart';
12:48 ries ?>
12:49 ries you might want to clear your BE cache
12:45 ries julie: do you have an extension under typo3conf/ext with the name user_projects ?
12:45 julie yes
12:48 julie http://localhost/Tom_Husler/index.php?eID=ajax_gallery
12:48 julie i m using this link
12:48 julie but the php file is not calling
12:48 ries I feel it's better to put all PHP script that belong to eachother under one extension....
12:48 julie its showing blank screen
12:48 ries make your show_gallery.php simple
12:48 ries just put this in there
12:48 ries <?php
12:48 julie yes i have make that
12:48 ries print 'julie is smart';
12:48 ries ?>
12:49 ries you might want to clear your BE cache
12:50 julie ho hoh
12:50 julie it worked!!!!
12:50 julie yah :)
12:50 julie im really happy now
12:50 julie thanks so much ries
12:52 ries julie: yw...
12:53 julie ries
12:53 julie one more thing
12:53 julie i have wriiten a query in show_gallery.php but Warning: mysql_query(): Access denied for user 'ODBC'@'localhost' (using password: NO)
12:53 julie i guess db is not connected :(
12:53 just2b ries > can i simulate in FF the print view
12:54 ries julie: you need to init the DB... just a mom, looking up teh call
12:54 snowman hi just2b, can you tell me how to force the rte not to change &nbsp; into <p class="bodytext" /> ?
12:50 julie ho hoh
12:50 julie it worked!!!!
12:50 julie yah :)
12:50 julie im really happy now
12:50 julie thanks so much ries
12:52 ries julie: yw...
12:53 julie ries
12:53 julie one more thing
12:53 julie i have wriiten a query in show_gallery.php but Warning: mysql_query(): Access denied for user 'ODBC'@'localhost' (using password: NO)
12:53 julie i guess db is not connected :(
12:53 just2b ries > can i simulate in FF the print view
12:54 ries julie: you need to init the DB... just a mom, looking up teh call
12:54 snowman hi just2b, can you tell me how to force the rte not to change &nbsp; into <p class="bodytext" /> ?
12:55 ries just2b: not when using teh CSS functions, but the application should take care for a proper print preview.. not the browser
12:55 just2b snowman no
12:55 snowman hmmm
12:56 Fanty what function do I need to call to translate the string "LLL:EXT:ext/locallang.xml:locallangvalue" into the actual LL value?
12:56 ries just2b: add this before any DB call : tslib_eidtools::connectDB();
12:56 ries snowman: there is a option for that .... just forgot the bloody cryptic names
12:56 julie ries how to establish a db connection in that php file?
12:57 ries julie: wrong name : add this before any DB call : tslib_eidtools::connectDB();
12:57 just2b julie add this before any DB call : tslib_eidtools::connectDB();
12:57 ries just2b: sorry about that dude... auto complete failed
12:57 silithlas when an email field is printed in the webpage, who is in charge to print it and to create the mailto link? typo3 or the extension?
12:58 just2b np ;)
12:58 just2b silithlas it depnds
12:58 julie yippy
12:58 julie :P
12:58 julie it worked!!!!
12:58 julie thanks a lot ries and dax
12:58 silithlas I don't find in the extension php code any "mailto" text, so I guess it is typo3 who displays it?
12:58 just2b possible.. search for typolink
12:59 dax77 julie :)
12:55 ries just2b: not when using teh CSS functions, but the application should take care for a proper print preview.. not the browser
12:55 just2b snowman no
12:55 snowman hmmm
12:56 Fanty what function do I need to call to translate the string "LLL:EXT:ext/locallang.xml:locallangvalue" into the actual LL value?
12:56 ries just2b: add this before any DB call : tslib_eidtools::connectDB();
12:56 ries snowman: there is a option for that .... just forgot the bloody cryptic names
12:57 julie ries how to establish a db connection in that php file?
12:57 ries julie: wrong name : add this before any DB call : tslib_eidtools::connectDB();
12:57 just2b julie add this before any DB call : tslib_eidtools::connectDB();
12:57 ries just2b: sorry about that dude... auto complete failed
12:57 silithlas when an email field is printed in the webpage, who is in charge to print it and to create the mailto link? typo3 or the extension?
12:58 just2b np ;)
12:58 just2b silithlas it depnds
12:58 julie yippy
12:58 julie :P
12:58 julie it worked!!!!
12:58 julie thanks a lot ries and dax
12:58 silithlas I don't find in the extension php code any "mailto" text, so I guess it is typo3 who displays it?
12:58 just2b possible.. search for typolink
12:59 dax77 julie :)
13:00 dax77 Fanty: thats inside the piBase class: pi_getLL();
13:04 Fanty dax77: no? those require you to load the locallang.xml or php file with pi_loadLL() dont they?
13:04 paddyez is there a way of getting the extConf var in a BE module?
13:04 dax77 Fanty: yes, don't you wanna load it?
13:00 dax77 Fanty: thats inside the piBase class: pi_getLL();
13:04 Fanty dax77: no? those require you to load the locallang.xml or php file with pi_loadLL() dont they?
13:04 paddyez is there a way of getting the extConf var in a BE module?
13:04 dax77 Fanty: yes, don't you wanna load it?
13:05 dax77 paddyez: yes
13:05 Fanty I need to resolve the string "LLL:EXT:ext/locallang.xml:locallangvalue"
13:06 dax77 Fanty: sorry, but isn't that just an example?
13:06 Fanty dax77: yes.. but it means the locallang file most likely will be part of some other extension
13:07 dax77 paddyez: $confArr = unserialize($GLOBALS['TYPO3_CONF_VARS']['EXT']['extConf']['cal']);
13:07 paddyez dax77: thanx
13:07 dax77 ^I'm using that inside tca.php
13:07 pmk65 Fanty: t3lib_div::getFileAbsFileName($filename,$onlyRelative=1,$relToTYPO3_mainDir=0) resolves the EXT: part, but Im not sure if it works on the LLL: part also.
13:08 dax77 does EXT:ext really exist?
13:05 dax77 paddyez: yes
13:05 Fanty I need to resolve the string "LLL:EXT:ext/locallang.xml:locallangvalue"
13:06 dax77 Fanty: sorry, but isn't that just an example?
13:06 Fanty dax77: yes.. but it means the locallang file most likely will be part of some other extension
13:07 dax77 paddyez: $confArr = unserialize($GLOBALS['TYPO3_CONF_VARS']['EXT']['extConf']['cal']);
13:07 paddyez dax77: thanx
13:07 dax77 ^I'm using that inside tca.php
13:07 pmk65 Fanty: t3lib_div::getFileAbsFileName($filename,$onlyRelative=1,$relToTYPO3_mainDir=0) resolves the EXT: part, but Im not sure if it works on the LLL: part also.
13:08 dax77 does EXT:ext really exist?
13:10 dax77 shouldn't it be more like: LLL:EXT:cal/locallang_db.php:tx_cal_category
13:11 Fanty dax77: yep.. as you said its an example. How do I resolve that from another extension?
13:11 dax77 Fanty: where do you need it?
13:12 dax77 inside your extension?
13:12 Fanty dax77: yes
13:14 Fanty pmk65: ye, I know, but I was hoping to find one function to call to do the job... addPlugin from t3lib_extMgm uses the same format
13:10 dax77 shouldn't it be more like: LLL:EXT:cal/locallang_db.php:tx_cal_category
13:11 Fanty dax77: yep.. as you said its an example. How do I resolve that from another extension?
13:11 dax77 Fanty: where do you need it?
13:12 dax77 inside your extension?
13:12 Fanty dax77: yes
13:14 Fanty pmk65: ye, I know, but I was hoping to find one function to call to do the job... addPlugin from t3lib_extMgm uses the same format
13:15 dax77 Fanty: have a look at $GLOBALS['LANG']->getLLL
13:15 dax77 just found that in tt_news
13:17 Fanty dax77: it takes two params, key and LL file =/
13:17 m4rtijn pls help :p .. I made an custom extension.. and want my cd - records in different "system folders" but the Categories somewhere else.. How can I best do this? I chose the Categories as "database relation" and the selector would be "select from storage pid"
13:19 m4rtijn but I dont know how I should tell typo3 where this storagePid is.. I tried just using TS.. tx_myext.storagePid = 32 .. which doesn't work
13:19 dax77 Fanty: $llFile = t3lib_extMgm::extPath('tt_news').'modfunc1/locallang.xml';
13:19 dax77 $this->LL = t3lib_div::readLLXMLfile($llFile, $GLOBALS['LANG']->lang);
13:15 dax77 Fanty: have a look at $GLOBALS['LANG']->getLLL
13:15 dax77 just found that in tt_news
13:17 Fanty dax77: it takes two params, key and LL file =/
13:17 m4rtijn pls help :p .. I made an custom extension.. and want my cd - records in different "system folders" but the Categories somewhere else.. How can I best do this? I chose the Categories as "database relation" and the selector would be "select from storage pid"
13:19 m4rtijn but I dont know how I should tell typo3 where this storagePid is.. I tried just using TS.. tx_myext.storagePid = 32 .. which doesn't work
13:19 dax77 Fanty: $llFile = t3lib_extMgm::extPath('tt_news').'modfunc1/locallang.xml';
13:19 dax77 $this->LL = t3lib_div::readLLXMLfile($llFile, $GLOBALS['LANG']->lang);
13:20 dax77 Fanty: tt_news is a fountain of useful information
13:20 dax77 cal btw too ;)
13:20 Fanty cant be right I need to parse the string myself
13:21 m4rtijn I would also be happy if the selector would work if the option would be "select from root page" but that doesnt work either ..
13:22 pmk65 Fanty: $blahblah = $GLOBALS['LANG']->sL('LLL:EXT:cal/locallang_db.php:tx_cal_category',1);
13:22 Fanty pmk65: found it 3 seconds ago :)
13:22 pmk65 lol :)
13:23 dax77 hmm, thats inside cal?
13:24 pmk65 I looked at typo3/template.php
13:24 dax77 ah ok
13:20 dax77 Fanty: tt_news is a fountain of useful information
13:20 dax77 cal btw too ;)
13:20 Fanty cant be right I need to parse the string myself
13:21 m4rtijn I would also be happy if the selector would work if the option would be "select from root page" but that doesnt work either ..
13:22 pmk65 Fanty: $blahblah = $GLOBALS['LANG']->sL('LLL:EXT:cal/locallang_db.php:tx_cal_category',1);
13:22 Fanty pmk65: found it 3 seconds ago :)
13:22 pmk65 lol :)
13:23 dax77 hmm, thats inside cal?
13:24 pmk65 I looked at typo3/template.php
13:24 dax77 ah ok
13:26 paddyez dax77: I suppose cal is the ext-key?
13:26 m4rtijn sniff :'(
13:26 dax77 jup
13:27 dax77 paddyez: haven't heart about cal??
13:27 m4rtijn could smbdy help me pls.. it should be fairly easy. Its just I dont know how
13:27 dax77 heard
13:29 dax77 m4rtijn: database relation between your records has primarily nothing to do with the pid's they are stored in
13:29 m4rtijn I know..
13:29 paddyez dax77: I only develop extensions for typo3 do not know much about typo3 itself. Normally I am a Java, C, C++, python, perl,... developer
13:26 paddyez dax77: I suppose cal is the ext-key?
13:26 m4rtijn sniff :'(
13:26 dax77 jup
13:27 dax77 paddyez: haven't heart about cal??
13:27 m4rtijn could smbdy help me pls.. it should be fairly easy. Its just I dont know how
13:27 dax77 heard
13:29 dax77 m4rtijn: database relation between your records has primarily nothing to do with the pid's they are stored in
13:29 m4rtijn I know..
13:29 paddyez dax77: I only develop extensions for typo3 do not know much about typo3 itself. Normally I am a Java, C, C++, python, perl,... developer
13:30 dax77 paddyez: np ;)
13:30 wilz is there a way to enable/disable the preview mode with PHP ?
13:30 m4rtijn I have a quite similar setup as in the cd-collection tutorial.. I only want my category records to be in another directory then my cd records
13:30 m4rtijn and I dont know how to do that
13:30 paddyez dax77: thanx a lot anyways for the help
13:31 dax77 m4rtijn: you just go to the different folder and create your records in there
13:31 m4rtijn I did.. but then they dont show in my cs record
13:31 m4rtijn cd*
13:31 m4rtijn I cant choose them
13:32 dax77 m4rtijn: so you have a access restriction in your tca?
13:32 m4rtijn no
13:33 m4rtijn I dont think so
13:33 Fanty anyway to control if plugin should be cacheable from the plugins flexform? Ie. "Dynamic: yes/no"
13:30 dax77 paddyez: np ;)
13:30 wilz is there a way to enable/disable the preview mode with PHP ?
13:30 m4rtijn I have a quite similar setup as in the cd-collection tutorial.. I only want my category records to be in another directory then my cd records
13:30 m4rtijn and I dont know how to do that
13:30 paddyez dax77: thanx a lot anyways for the help
13:31 dax77 m4rtijn: you just go to the different folder and create your records in there
13:31 m4rtijn I did.. but then they dont show in my cs record
13:31 m4rtijn cd*
13:31 m4rtijn I cant choose them
13:32 dax77 m4rtijn: so you have a access restriction in your tca?
13:32 m4rtijn no
13:33 m4rtijn I dont think so
13:33 Fanty anyway to control if plugin should be cacheable from the plugins flexform? Ie. "Dynamic: yes/no"
13:35 dax77 m4rtijn: sorry, but I'm off in a few minutes. But maybe someone else might help you .....
13:35 reDBull what do people here use for rotating banner ads
13:36 reDBull i cant find a decent extension
13:36 reDBull macina - does not rotate like it says it does, ws_banner - requires the banner records to be placed on the pages that show them(uber lame)
13:37 pmk65 reDBull: I use phpAdsNew. (Not a TYPO3 Ext)
13:38 pmk65 http://www.phpadsnew.com/two/
13:38 reDBull that's exactly what i was thinking, there simply isnt one that works in typo yet :)
13:38 reDBull it's too bad
13:39 m4rtijn ries? could you maybe help me with a small problem?
13:35 dax77 m4rtijn: sorry, but I'm off in a few minutes. But maybe someone else might help you .....
13:35 reDBull what do people here use for rotating banner ads
13:36 reDBull i cant find a decent extension
13:36 reDBull macina - does not rotate like it says it does, ws_banner - requires the banner records to be placed on the pages that show them(uber lame)
13:37 pmk65 reDBull: I use phpAdsNew. (Not a TYPO3 Ext)
13:38 pmk65 http://www.phpadsnew.com/two/
13:38 reDBull that's exactly what i was thinking, there simply isnt one that works in typo yet :)
13:38 reDBull it's too bad
13:39 m4rtijn ries? could you maybe help me with a small problem?
13:40 pmk65 reDBull: That's the same with shopmodules. None of the TYPO3 shops are really usable.
13:44 m4rtijn hmm, anybody else here who is a bit experienced with making smth like a cd-collection extension.. but with different storage places for category records and cd records
13:40 pmk65 reDBull: That's the same with shopmodules. None of the TYPO3 shops are really usable.
13:44 m4rtijn hmm, anybody else here who is a bit experienced with making smth like a cd-collection extension.. but with different storage places for category records and cd records
13:46 dokma hey ppl
13:46 m4rtijn hi dokma
13:46 dokma m4rtijn: :D
13:46 m4rtijn im frustrated.. :(
13:47 m4rtijn do you have 5 mins to help me with a custom extension dok?.. should be rly easy but I dont get it
13:47 just2b /me asks if he should go on lunch?
13:48 m4rtijn bon appetite just2b
13:49 paddyez just2b: you should not toy with food and do not walk on it ;-)
13:46 dokma hey ppl
13:46 m4rtijn hi dokma
13:46 dokma m4rtijn: :D
13:46 m4rtijn im frustrated.. :(
13:47 m4rtijn do you have 5 mins to help me with a custom extension dok?.. should be rly easy but I dont get it
13:47 just2b /me asks if he should go on lunch?
13:48 m4rtijn bon appetite just2b
13:49 paddyez just2b: you should not toy with food and do not walk on it ;-)
13:50 dax77 lol
13:50 just2b lol
13:51 m4rtijn seems nobody can help me but you dax :(
13:52 paddyez I am not a native english speaker but is the preposition not "go for lunch"?
13:54 dax77 m4rtijn: there are others I bet
13:50 dax77 lol
13:50 just2b lol
13:51 m4rtijn seems nobody can help me but you dax :(
13:52 paddyez I am not a native english speaker but is the preposition not "go for lunch"?
13:54 dax77 m4rtijn: there are others I bet
13:55 dax77 g2g now. good luck m4rtijn - else we solve it on monday :)
13:55 dax77 cu guys
13:56 m4rtijn cu
13:57 reDBull paddyez: go on lunch is situationally replacable for go for lunhc
13:57 reDBull but probably not correct
13:59 reDBull has anyone here ever got the "cal base" extension to work, i mean the front-end editing portion
13:55 dax77 g2g now. good luck m4rtijn - else we solve it on monday :)
13:55 dax77 cu guys
13:56 m4rtijn cu
13:57 reDBull paddyez: go on lunch is situationally replacable for go for lunhc
13:57 reDBull but probably not correct
13:59 reDBull has anyone here ever got the "cal base" extension to work, i mean the front-end editing portion
14:08 paddyez reDBull: go on lunch just sounds like you walk on the food
14:08 paddyez reDBull: go on lunch just sounds like you walk on the food
14:13 paddyez reDBull: "go for lunch" has mor hits on google
14:13 paddyez reDBull: "go for lunch" has mor hits on google
14:22 anand hello
14:24 anand can anyone help me getting displaying text below menu name
14:22 anand hello
14:24 anand can anyone help me getting displaying text below menu name
14:44 elbart hi
14:44 elbart hi
15:02 reDBull i am going to do one thing all day today and this weekend, get front-end editing working on the cal base extension
15:02 reDBull wow it's confusing, i may even post a how-to when i'm done, the documentation is crap
15:03 reDBull in fact, all documentation is crap
15:02 reDBull i am going to do one thing all day today and this weekend, get front-end editing working on the cal base extension
15:02 reDBull wow it's confusing, i may even post a how-to when i'm done, the documentation is crap
15:03 reDBull in fact, all documentation is crap
15:05 wilz is there a way to remove the red and ugly "Preview" button ?
15:05 wilz is there a way to remove the red and ugly "Preview" button ?
15:30 just2b i like that http://media.techeblog.com/images/button_2.jpg
15:31 m4rtijn cu later
15:30 just2b i like that http://media.techeblog.com/images/button_2.jpg
15:31 m4rtijn cu later
15:42 paddyez just2b: can I purcase that as a t3 extension?
15:42 just2b the screenshot, sure... just 150€ ;)
15:42 paddyez just2b: can I purcase that as a t3 extension?
15:42 just2b the screenshot, sure... just 150€ ;)
15:47 paddyez what symbol is that after the 150? I use utf8
15:47 just2b euro
15:47 paddyez *args* this chan is still iso?
15:48 just2b seems so
15:49 paddyez high tech so to speak. All professional typo3 experts use iso?
15:49 just2b dont think so
15:47 paddyez what symbol is that after the 150? I use utf8
15:47 just2b euro
15:47 paddyez *args* this chan is still iso?
15:48 just2b seems so
15:49 paddyez high tech so to speak. All professional typo3 experts use iso?
15:49 just2b dont think so
15:50 paddyez so why use it on freenode?
15:50 ries ISO=International Standards Organization
15:51 ries what we mean with... this channel uses iso??
15:51 paddyez ISO 8859-15
15:51 ries paddyez: that's better :)
15:51 ries ISO has many standards...
15:52 ries Mine IRC is set to utf-8, but I see the euro symbol just clear...
15:53 paddyez in the context it was for encoding. you are very picky ries ;-)
15:53 ries paddyez: well... iso has many encoding schemas..... so I have to be picky :)
15:54 paddyez you get that too ¬?
15:54 ries yup... load and clear
15:54 paddyez funny
15:54 ries The euro symbol that is...
15:54 ries ¬¬¬¬¬ :)
15:50 paddyez so why use it on freenode?
15:50 ries ISO=International Standards Organization
15:51 ries what we mean with... this channel uses iso??
15:51 paddyez ISO 8859-15
15:51 ries paddyez: that's better :)
15:51 ries ISO has many standards...
15:52 ries Mine IRC is set to utf-8, but I see the euro symbol just clear...
15:53 paddyez in the context it was for encoding. you are very picky ries ;-)
15:53 ries paddyez: well... iso has many encoding schemas..... so I have to be picky :)
15:54 paddyez you get that too ¬?
15:54 ries yup... load and clear
15:54 paddyez funny
15:54 ries The euro symbol that is...
15:54 ries ¬¬¬¬¬ :)
15:55 paddyez that I get too
15:55 ries so all is fine?
15:55 ries everybody sees the euro symbol?
15:55 paddyez ries: no I did not get the symbol above: "the screenshot, sure... just 150€ ;)"
15:56 ries all others you did get correct?
15:57 paddyez Test: öäüYa ß
15:57 just2b some special chars ;) Ä Ü Ö ß ;)
15:59 ries ñ
15:59 ries Ñ
15:55 paddyez that I get too
15:55 ries so all is fine?
15:55 ries everybody sees the euro symbol?
15:55 paddyez ries: no I did not get the symbol above: "the screenshot, sure... just 150€ ;)"
15:56 ries all others you did get correct?
15:57 paddyez Test: öäüYa ß
15:58 just2b some special chars ;) Ä Ü Ö ß ;)
15:59 ries ñ
15:59 ries Ñ
16:00 paddyez just2b: now I get them correct
16:00 just2b € $ ?
16:01 ries actually
16:01 paddyez EUR still broken here. $ is ASCII so backward compatible
16:01 ries just2b: if you type these characters I get this line behind your text : (incompatible encoding)
16:02 ries so just2b you did set your IRC client to non utf-8?
16:02 just2b i dont know.. it is just trillian.. ;) i'll take a look ;)
16:03 ries just2b: so if you can teach it utf-8
16:03 ries apparently my client detects this and converts it to teh right encoding
16:04 paddyez ries: what do you use?
16:04 paddyez just2b: forget it trillian has no utf-8 AFAIK
16:04 uriahheep how do i manually purge the caches?
16:04 paddyez ries: I mean what client?
16:00 paddyez just2b: now I get them correct
16:00 just2b € $ ?
16:01 ries actually
16:01 paddyez EUR still broken here. $ is ASCII so backward compatible
16:01 ries just2b: if you type these characters I get this line behind your text : (incompatible encoding)
16:02 ries so just2b you did set your IRC client to non utf-8?
16:02 just2b i dont know.. it is just trillian.. ;) i'll take a look ;)
16:03 ries just2b: so if you can teach it utf-8
16:03 ries apparently my client detects this and converts it to teh right encoding
16:04 paddyez ries: what do you use?
16:04 paddyez just2b: forget it trillian has no utf-8 AFAIK
16:04 uriahheep how do i manually purge the caches?
16:04 paddyez ries: I mean what client?
16:05 paddyez uriahheep: for examle del tmp files in typo3conf/ext/
16:05 uriahheep thanks
16:06 paddyez ONLY tmp files!
16:06 paddyez uriahheep: -ext
16:07 paddyez only typo3conf
16:09 reDBull is fe user login form broken in the current version?
16:09 reDBull i've tried forever to get it to work
16:09 flipmoe5000 hi
16:09 flipmoe5000 my ext manaager doesnt work correctly
16:10 flipmoe5000 it is not possible to import tt_news for example
16:05 paddyez uriahheep: for examle del tmp files in typo3conf/ext/
16:05 uriahheep thanks
16:06 paddyez ONLY tmp files!
16:06 paddyez uriahheep: -ext
16:07 paddyez only typo3conf
16:09 reDBull is fe user login form broken in the current version?
16:09 reDBull i've tried forever to get it to work
16:09 flipmoe5000 hi
16:09 flipmoe5000 my ext manaager doesnt work correctly
16:10 flipmoe5000 it is not possible to import tt_news for example
16:10 uriahheep paddyez: yeah, i figured that out ;)
16:10 flipmoe5000 internal server error 500
16:10 flipmoe5000 also the backup/delete function doesnt work properly
16:10 paddyez uriahheep: classical copy and past mistake. Somtimes I am just to stupid
16:10 flipmoe5000 anyone an idea?
16:11 ries paddyez: I use Adium
16:11 just2b oh a mac os thing?
16:12 ries yeaa.... you can also use gaim
16:12 ries which uses the same libraries
16:12 reDBull xchat all the way, noobz, hahaha
16:12 reDBull :)
16:12 just2b ?
16:12 ries reDBull: That's for old people :)
16:12 just2b s
16:12 reDBull yeah, i'm old (26)
16:12 just2b should I really begin writing the manuals?
16:13 uriahheep paddyez: ;)
16:14 reDBull seriously, id be very surprised if anyone can get fe user login to work
16:14 reDBull im going step-by-step from the book
16:10 uriahheep paddyez: yeah, i figured that out ;)
16:10 flipmoe5000 internal server error 500
16:10 flipmoe5000 also the backup/delete function doesnt work properly
16:10 paddyez uriahheep: classical copy and past mistake. Somtimes I am just to stupid
16:10 flipmoe5000 anyone an idea?
16:11 ries paddyez: I use Adium
16:11 just2b oh a mac os thing?
16:12 ries yeaa.... you can also use gaim
16:12 ries which uses the same libraries
16:12 reDBull xchat all the way, noobz, hahaha
16:12 reDBull :)
16:12 just2b ?
16:12 ries reDBull: That's for old people :)
16:12 just2b s
16:12 reDBull yeah, i'm old (26)
16:12 just2b should I really begin writing the manuals?
16:13 uriahheep paddyez: ;)
16:14 reDBull seriously, id be very surprised if anyone can get fe user login to work
16:14 reDBull im going step-by-step from the book
16:15 ries reDBull: make sure teh pid points to the page where you store your users... that's the most common problem
16:15 reDBull it is
16:16 reDBull styles.content.loginform.pid = (whatever)
16:16 reDBull in template constant
16:17 just2b anyone with an IE6 here?`
16:18 paddyez ries: so I am old?
16:18 reDBull would anyone admit that they have ie6?
16:18 just2b paddyez yes
16:18 just2b reDBull sure, why not
16:18 just2b or ries > media print works in IE6 too?
16:18 just2b so old and misses ;)
16:18 reDBull just2b, every do much, layout design with css, Lol
16:19 reDBull just2b, it just makes you hate ms
16:19 paddyez ACK#
16:19 flipmoe5000 nobody any idea regarding the ext manager prob?
16:19 reDBull flipmoe, never seen thatb4
16:15 ries reDBull: make sure teh pid points to the page where you store your users... that's the most common problem
16:15 reDBull it is
16:16 reDBull styles.content.loginform.pid = (whatever)
16:16 reDBull in template constant
16:17 just2b anyone with an IE6 here?`
16:18 paddyez ries: so I am old?
16:18 reDBull would anyone admit that they have ie6?
16:18 just2b paddyez yes
16:18 just2b reDBull sure, why not
16:18 just2b or ries > media print works in IE6 too?
16:18 just2b so old and misses ;)
16:18 reDBull just2b, every do much, layout design with css, Lol
16:19 reDBull just2b, it just makes you hate ms
16:19 paddyez ACK#
16:19 flipmoe5000 nobody any idea regarding the ext manager prob?
16:19 reDBull flipmoe, never seen thatb4
16:20 flipmoe5000 ok
16:21 paddyez just2b: 1st old man has experience 2nd <obelix>Who said I am old?</obelix>
16:21 just2b but cant keep the hands calm ;)
16:21 just2b :D
16:21 ries just2b: want's IE6????
16:21 just2b but it is ok old man :D
16:22 ries paddyez: I am old.... add 10 years and you have my age :D
16:22 paddyez ries: 10 years to what?
16:23 ries paddyez: Ahh crap... I needed to say that to reDBull ....
16:23 ries I am getting old...
16:23 ries you all young people type to fast :)
16:23 reDBull haha
16:24 reDBull friday is definitely a chatty day in typo3 channel
16:24 reDBull still cant get shit to work
16:24 reDBull (resorting to google)
16:20 flipmoe5000 ok
16:21 paddyez just2b: 1st old man has experience 2nd <obelix>Who said I am old?</obelix>
16:21 just2b but cant keep the hands calm ;)
16:21 just2b :D
16:21 ries just2b: want's IE6????
16:21 just2b but it is ok old man :D
16:22 ries paddyez: I am old.... add 10 years and you have my age :D
16:22 paddyez ries: 10 years to what?
16:23 ries paddyez: Ahh crap... I needed to say that to reDBull ....
16:23 ries I am getting old...
16:23 ries you all young people type to fast :)
16:23 reDBull haha
16:24 reDBull friday is definitely a chatty day in typo3 channel
16:24 reDBull still cant get shit to work
16:24 reDBull (resorting to google)
16:25 paddyez ries: subtract 4 from your age and you get mine
16:26 ries paddyez: I am glad there are some over 30 people here :)
16:25 paddyez ries: subtract 4 from your age and you get mine
16:26 ries paddyez: I am glad there are some over 30 people here :)
16:30 paddyez ries: when you are in the teens you whant to become 18 in order to get booze legaly after that you just whant to stay 18
16:31 just2b i dont want to stay 18
16:31 just2b really not
16:31 just2b ok I am 24 ;)
16:32 paddyez just2b: you will in a few years
16:30 paddyez ries: when you are in the teens you whant to become 18 in order to get booze legaly after that you just whant to stay 18
16:31 just2b i dont want to stay 18
16:31 just2b really not
16:31 just2b ok I am 24 ;)
16:32 paddyez just2b: you will in a few years
16:35 ries paddyez: Hmm I never had that...
16:38 paddyez ever had pain in the back?
16:35 ries paddyez: Hmm I never had that...
16:38 paddyez ever had pain in the back?
16:42 paddyez when you have your first herniated vertebral disc you will, believe me
16:42 paddyez when you have your first herniated vertebral disc you will, believe me
16:45 |Awillys| just2b: yo
16:46 ries Hey Awillys , how are you doing buddy?
16:46 Awillys ries: hey, good good :)
16:46 Awillys what about you?
16:48 just2b hi Awillys
16:48 ries Awillys: Not to bad my friend.... working all day long :)
16:48 Awillys ah we al work'sl slaves nowadays :/
16:45 |Awillys| just2b: yo
16:46 ries Hey Awillys , how are you doing buddy?
16:46 Awillys ries: hey, good good :)
16:46 Awillys what about you?
16:48 just2b hi Awillys
16:48 ries Awillys: Not to bad my friend.... working all day long :)
16:48 Awillys ah we al work'sl slaves nowadays :/
17:02 koomi anyone from italy around?
17:03 just2b austria is around italy.. ;)
17:03 just2b so yes :D
17:03 dokma guys
17:03 dokma what happens when a catmenu item is clicked?
17:04 just2b in FE, BE... dokma?
17:04 dokma any example somewhere?
17:04 dokma in FE
17:04 just2b i guess a page with a param is called
17:04 koomi i need to get a train schedule from bergamo to torino
17:04 dokma just2b: but what is displayed on that page?
17:04 koomi just2b: do you speak enough italian? i need to get a train schedule from bergamo to torino
17:04 dokma news articles from that category?
17:02 koomi anyone from italy around?
17:03 just2b austria is around italy.. ;)
17:03 just2b so yes :D
17:03 dokma guys
17:03 dokma what happens when a catmenu item is clicked?
17:04 just2b in FE, BE... dokma?
17:04 dokma any example somewhere?
17:04 dokma in FE
17:04 just2b i guess a page with a param is called
17:04 koomi i need to get a train schedule from bergamo to torino
17:04 dokma just2b: but what is displayed on that page?
17:04 koomi just2b: do you speak enough italian? i need to get a train schedule from bergamo to torino
17:04 dokma news articles from that category?
17:05 just2b sorry no
17:05 just2b dokma yes
17:05 dokma ahh, I see
17:05 dokma that's pretty cool
17:05 dokma I'd love to create a CMS better than TYPO3
17:05 just2b koomi > http://www.trenitalia.com/en/index.html
17:05 just2b dokma, rofl
17:05 dokma anyone wanna join me?
17:05 just2b sure.. only several years manpower ;)
17:05 just2b what else
17:05 just2b and some knowledge
17:05 dokma well not years
17:06 dokma I bet we could do it in a few months
17:06 dokma with all the TYPO3 knowledge
17:06 dokma we dump the bad stuff
17:06 dokma add some good stuff
17:06 dokma and there you go
17:07 just2b dokma... join typo3 5.0
17:07 just2b stop talkin, start doing
17:07 dokma did already
17:07 just2b so this is already in progress
17:08 paddyez bye bye have a nice weekend
17:09 dokma yeah
17:09 dokma but I wanna be Kasper
17:09 dokma I wanna do MY CMS!!!
17:09 just2b so do something
17:09 dokma dude
17:09 dokma well, I did already
17:05 just2b sorry no
17:05 just2b dokma yes
17:05 dokma ahh, I see
17:05 dokma that's pretty cool
17:05 dokma I'd love to create a CMS better than TYPO3
17:05 just2b koomi > http://www.trenitalia.com/en/index.html
17:05 just2b dokma, rofl
17:05 dokma anyone wanna join me?
17:05 just2b sure.. only several years manpower ;)
17:05 just2b what else
17:05 just2b and some knowledge
17:05 dokma well not years
17:06 dokma I bet we could do it in a few months
17:06 dokma with all the TYPO3 knowledge
17:06 dokma we dump the bad stuff
17:06 dokma add some good stuff
17:06 dokma and there you go
17:07 just2b dokma... join typo3 5.0
17:07 just2b stop talkin, start doing
17:07 dokma did already
17:07 just2b so this is already in progress
17:08 paddyez bye bye have a nice weekend
17:09 dokma yeah
17:09 dokma but I wanna be Kasper
17:09 dokma I wanna do MY CMS!!!
17:09 just2b so do something
17:09 dokma dude
17:09 dokma well, I did already
17:10 just2b he didnt talk that much ;)
17:10 dokma I had a vision
17:10 just2b so more...
17:10 dokma so now I just need to get some crew working with me
17:10 just2b why not make typo3 better?
17:11 uriahheep hmm...
17:12 uriahheep is it possible that "external link" type pages do not show subpages in the menu?
17:13 uriahheep i mean... that would be the only explanation i'd be able to give for the behavior of my menu..
17:13 just2b could be yes
17:13 just2b but i dont think so
17:13 uriahheep http://pastebin.ca/677071
17:13 uriahheep there doesn't seem to be anything wrong with this, right?
17:14 just2b it is wrong
17:14 uriahheep :-o really?
17:14 just2b cause the menu won'T enlarge if you click at the external page
17:14 uriahheep oh...
17:14 just2b set a expAll = 1 in level 1 and you will see the subppage
17:14 uriahheep i want the submenu items to always appear
17:14 uriahheep ah, thanks :)
17:14 just2b expAll
17:14 just2b ;)
17:10 just2b he didnt talk that much ;)
17:10 dokma I had a vision
17:10 just2b so more...
17:10 dokma so now I just need to get some crew working with me
17:10 just2b why not make typo3 better?
17:11 uriahheep hmm...
17:12 uriahheep is it possible that "external link" type pages do not show subpages in the menu?
17:13 uriahheep i mean... that would be the only explanation i'd be able to give for the behavior of my menu..
17:13 just2b could be yes
17:13 just2b but i dont think so
17:13 uriahheep http://pastebin.ca/677071
17:13 uriahheep there doesn't seem to be anything wrong with this, right?
17:14 just2b it is wrong
17:14 uriahheep :-o really?
17:14 just2b cause the menu won'T enlarge if you click at the external page
17:14 uriahheep oh...
17:14 just2b set a expAll = 1 in level 1 and you will see the subppage
17:14 uriahheep i want the submenu items to always appear
17:14 uriahheep ah, thanks :)
17:14 just2b expAll
17:14 just2b ;)
17:15 uriahheep oh, wait now...
17:15 uriahheep this causes another problem
17:16 uriahheep just2b: the submenu items aren't being wrapped like i asked them to be
17:16 just2b so?
17:16 uriahheep well
17:16 uriahheep <li class="submenuli">|</li>
17:16 uriahheep i need to have that ;)
17:17 just2b ah you made wrong things
17:17 just2b !
17:17 uriahheep ah
17:17 uriahheep allWrap
17:17 uriahheep instead of wrap
17:17 uriahheep ;)
17:17 just2b nono
17:18 just2b 1 = TMENU
17:18 just2b 1.wrap = <ul>|</ul>
17:18 just2b 1.NO.wrapItemAndSub = <li>|</li>
17:18 uriahheep yep ;)
17:18 uriahheep i got it though
17:18 uriahheep it works now
17:18 uriahheep thanks for the help :)
17:18 just2b np
17:19 Awillys been using t3 for 2 years and still dont know much about it ^^ :/
17:19 uriahheep :)
17:15 uriahheep oh, wait now...
17:15 uriahheep this causes another problem
17:16 uriahheep just2b: the submenu items aren't being wrapped like i asked them to be
17:16 just2b so?
17:16 uriahheep well
17:16 uriahheep <li class="submenuli">|</li>
17:16 uriahheep i need to have that ;)
17:17 just2b ah you made wrong things
17:17 just2b !
17:17 uriahheep ah
17:17 uriahheep allWrap
17:17 uriahheep instead of wrap
17:17 uriahheep ;)
17:17 just2b nono
17:18 just2b 1 = TMENU
17:18 just2b 1.wrap = <ul>|</ul>
17:18 just2b 1.NO.wrapItemAndSub = <li>|</li>
17:18 uriahheep yep ;)
17:18 uriahheep i got it though
17:18 uriahheep it works now
17:18 uriahheep thanks for the help :)
17:18 just2b np
17:19 Awillys been using t3 for 2 years and still dont know much about it ^^ :/
17:19 uriahheep :)
17:20 Awillys well i am like and end admin user only. no programmation skills etc... ^^
17:20 Awillys copy / paste / adapt TS works fine though :)
17:24 just2b Awillys this is just fine
17:20 Awillys well i am like and end admin user only. no programmation skills etc... ^^
17:20 Awillys copy / paste / adapt TS works fine though :)
17:24 just2b Awillys this is just fine
17:29 dokma ries: did you ever setup a CATMENU?
17:29 dokma ries: did you ever setup a CATMENU?
17:30 ries dokma: CATMENU???
17:30 ries JUST HMENU AND TMENU
17:30 ries sorry caps
17:30 dokma tt_news category menu
17:30 dokma it displays a menu out of a tt_news category hierarchy
17:30 ries dokma: CATMENU???
17:30 ries JUST HMENU AND TMENU
17:30 ries sorry caps
17:30 dokma tt_news category menu
17:30 dokma it displays a menu out of a tt_news category hierarchy
17:38 bedlamhotel just2b: are you still around, or has the dance started already? ;-)
17:38 bedlamhotel just2b: are you still around, or has the dance started already? ;-)
18:12 anand hi all
18:13 anand can anybody help me in displaying the menu in different colors
18:14 anand the menu having odd numbers should be in one color and even in other color
18:14 bedlamhotel anand: have you discovered "optionSplit" yet?
18:14 anand i am using templavoila
18:12 anand hi all
18:13 anand can anybody help me in displaying the menu in different colors
18:14 anand the menu having odd numbers should be in one color and even in other color
18:14 bedlamhotel anand: have you discovered "optionSplit" yet?
18:14 anand i am using templavoila
18:15 bedlamhotel anand: that's irrelevant ;-)
18:16 anand ?
18:16 anand i am newbie to typo3
18:16 bedlamhotel TemplaVoila has nothing really to do with your question ;-)
18:17 anand can you please give me the link
18:17 bedlamhotel http://typo3.org/documentation/document-library/core-documentation/doc_core_tsbyex/0.0.16/view/7/4/
18:17 bedlamhotel ...and...
18:17 bedlamhotel http://typo3.org/documentation/document-library/references/doc_core_tsref/4.1.0/view/3/1/#id3520928
18:18 bedlamhotel The examples in the first link are with GMENU links...you'll probably want to use a TMENU with CSS though...
18:19 anand yes
18:15 bedlamhotel anand: that's irrelevant ;-)
18:16 anand ?
18:16 anand i am newbie to typo3
18:16 bedlamhotel TemplaVoila has nothing really to do with your question ;-)
18:17 anand can you please give me the link
18:17 bedlamhotel http://typo3.org/documentation/document-library/core-documentation/doc_core_tsbyex/0.0.16/view/7/4/
18:17 bedlamhotel ...and...
18:17 bedlamhotel http://typo3.org/documentation/document-library/references/doc_core_tsref/4.1.0/view/3/1/#id3520928
18:18 bedlamhotel The examples in the first link are with GMENU links...you'll probably want to use a TMENU with CSS though...
18:19 anand yes
18:22 bedlamhotel http://www.typo3wizard.com/en/content-comments.html?no_cache=1&tx_rfcontentcomments_pi1%5Bcontentuid%5D=321
18:22 bedlamhotel http://www.typo3wizard.com/en/content-comments.html?no_cache=1&tx_rfcontentcomments_pi1%5Bcontentuid%5D=321
18:25 anand bedlamhotel:a query where is the css style set?
18:26 bedlamhotel anand: are you asking how to link to a stylesheet?
18:26 anand no where can we use the style in th code?
18:27 bedlamhotel anand: in your stylesheet--TYPO3 sites are not different from any other websites in this way.
18:28 anand please check the last link you gave me
18:29 bedlamhotel Sure. What about it?
18:25 anand bedlamhotel:a query where is the css style set?
18:26 bedlamhotel anand: are you asking how to link to a stylesheet?
18:26 anand no where can we use the style in th code?
18:27 bedlamhotel anand: in your stylesheet--TYPO3 sites are not different from any other websites in this way.
18:28 anand please check the last link you gave me
18:29 bedlamhotel Sure. What about it?
18:30 anand bedlamhotel:suppose i have style "odd " and style "even"?
18:30 anand how i can assign them in this typoscript
18:34 anand bedlamhotel: r u there?
18:30 anand bedlamhotel:suppose i have style "odd " and style "even"?
18:30 anand how i can assign them in this typoscript
18:34 anand bedlamhotel: r u there?
18:36 bedlamhotel anand: Yes, but working too. Here's a minimal working example for you: http://phpfi.com/259969
18:36 bedlamhotel Oops. There's a missing quotation mark on line 9
18:37 bedlamhotel corrected: http://phpfi.com/259970
18:39 anand bedlamhotel: where is class "even"?
18:39 bedlamhotel anand: 'even' is totally unnecessary--it'd just be css bloat.
18:36 bedlamhotel anand: Yes, but working too. Here's a minimal working example for you: http://phpfi.com/259969
18:36 bedlamhotel Oops. There's a missing quotation mark on line 9
18:37 bedlamhotel corrected: http://phpfi.com/259970
18:39 anand bedlamhotel: where is class "even"?
18:39 bedlamhotel anand: 'even' is totally unnecessary--it'd just be css bloat.
18:40 anand bedlamhotel:is it in "<li>|</li>"
18:42 bedlamhotel anand: look at this--there is no need for TWO classes. If you have 'n' colours, you need 'n-1' classes: http://phpfi.com/259971
18:40 anand bedlamhotel:is it in "<li>|</li>"
18:42 bedlamhotel anand: look at this--there is no need for TWO classes. If you have 'n' colours, you need 'n-1' classes: http://phpfi.com/259971
18:45 anand bedlamhotel:because i have 2 classes button1 and button2 which has some different colors, properties in it ?
18:46 anand bedlamhotel:i have to implement those classes
18:46 bedlamhotel anand: take the last example I posted and play around with it...
18:46 anand ok thank you very much bedlamhotel
18:45 anand bedlamhotel:because i have 2 classes button1 and button2 which has some different colors, properties in it ?
18:46 anand bedlamhotel:i have to implement those classes
18:46 bedlamhotel anand: take the last example I posted and play around with it...
18:46 anand ok thank you very much bedlamhotel
18:53 silithlas hi, in an extension there is a function which returns something like (for emails) : return '<a href="mailto:'.$data[$fN].'">'.$data[$fN].'</a>'; So, my question is: how do I replace this line in the function to use typolink function to return the email value? Thanks
18:53 dokma bedlamhotel: do you know if catmenu can work with latest in tt_news?
18:53 dokma I did manage to get it working with list
18:54 bedlamhotel dokma: no idea. Generally the stuff in tt_news' manual does work ok--I'm not a big fan of that extension, but it usually does what it says it does...
18:54 dokma bedlamhotel: yeah. I got most of it doing what it should
18:53 silithlas hi, in an extension there is a function which returns something like (for emails) : return '<a href="mailto:'.$data[$fN].'">'.$data[$fN].'</a>'; So, my question is: how do I replace this line in the function to use typolink function to return the email value? Thanks
18:53 dokma bedlamhotel: do you know if catmenu can work with latest in tt_news?
18:53 dokma I did manage to get it working with list
18:54 bedlamhotel dokma: no idea. Generally the stuff in tt_news' manual does work ok--I'm not a big fan of that extension, but it usually does what it says it does...
18:54 dokma bedlamhotel: yeah. I got most of it doing what it should
18:55 dokma so I am using it alright
18:55 dokma but this catmenu thing is getting a bit tricky
18:55 bedlamhotel It's very 'old school' TS in that extension...hard to use.
18:55 dokma so I am using it alright
18:55 dokma but this catmenu thing is getting a bit tricky
18:55 bedlamhotel It's very 'old school' TS in that extension...hard to use.
19:27 beeviz hi
19:28 beeviz anyone here got an idea how i can restyle the "layout2" in the filelink content element?
19:28 beeviz i currently have:
19:28 beeviz image | filename / description | filesize
19:28 beeviz but i need the image to be in the right column
19:27 beeviz hi
19:28 beeviz anyone here got an idea how i can restyle the "layout2" in the filelink content element?
19:28 beeviz i currently have:
19:28 beeviz image | filename / description | filesize
19:28 beeviz but i need the image to be in the right column

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