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00:30 prodacker hi there
00:31 prodacker anybody familiar with using templates for typo3 backend modules?
07:03 d|g hi all
09:01 No5251 good morning
09:03 umc morning
09:03 umc anyone updated to 4.1.4 so far ?
09:03 banban i would like to append "print.htm" to "tmp.PRINT.typolink.parameter.data = TSFE:id" in TS. How should i do that? How to concatenate two objects in TS? Thanks!
09:25 Fanty What would be the "correct" way of getting the URL for the typo3 site in an extension? I need to make an link to a specific id and type.
09:27 fuchur hi everyone
09:27 fuchur $TSFE->getPageLink('id','',array('param-name'=>'param-value'));
09:30 fuchur Fanty: *tick* :)
09:30 Fanty thanks
09:32 fuchur welcome
09:48 No5251 hehe. the german people ... gleitzeit is was tolles!? ^^
09:51 fuchur :-) Think there are about 75% germans in here anyway :D
10:02 teppi|work glob ik och wa? :D
10:03 Fanty anyway to use a HMENU with GMENU elements to make a POST of a small form instead of a GET? I'd really like to use the roll over effects of a GMENU element but the link needs to have bunch of session data in it
10:12 Crocus try to us the itemarrayprocfunc
10:12 Crocus +e
10:40 antoone Hi all
10:40 antoone I would like to ask u a question
10:41 typochur don't ask to ask, just ask
10:41 antoone I would like to make an insertion of more than one items by the Element Browser
10:42 antoone Exemple : My Element Browser make a page list (by coma), and i would like to have a page 2 times
10:57 drindt i had written a lil bit code http://pastebin.com/d16a76f90 for a contact form which should stay on every page, the form is shown correctly but when values entered the form not arrive me via email. someone can please clue me? the ordinary form with the wizard works fine.
11:00 m0oman hahaha the safari debug tools have some uber error messages!
11:00 m0oman http://stuff.thxbye.de/Safari_Asleep-20071211-110616.png
11:23 banban how is it possible to concatenate two TEXT objects in TS?
11:27 teppi|work banban, http://phpfi.com/282454
11:29 pesz hi there
11:35 drindt banban: COA
11:36 drindt i had written a lil bit code http://pastebin.com/d16a76f90 for a contact form which should stay on every page, the form is shown correctly but when values entered the form not arrive me via email. someone can please clue me? the ordinary form with the wizard works fine.
11:38 Fanty is it possible to get constants set in the ext_typoscript_constants.txt file for my extension in my script?
11:38 Fanty ie class.myext_pi1.php
11:38 m4rtijn hi
11:39 drindt m4rtijn: greetinggs
11:39 m4rtijn heya drindt
12:12 banban teppi|work: http://phpfi.com/282457 - i would like to concatenate url i get with TSFE:id with print.htm.. the code i have does not work.. any help?
12:42 Valda hi everybody
12:42 Denyerec Hey
12:42 Valda I'm looking some master-piece tutorials
12:42 Denyerec uschi!
12:42 Valda in order to discover Typo3 quickly
12:42 Valda any idea here ?
12:42 Denyerec Valda - sadly for you, there is no way to discover typo3 quickly.
12:42 Denyerec The best you can hope to do, is plan a simple website, then approach it step by step.
12:42 Valda hey, it's only discovering
12:43 Valda I'm used with java framework like Srping
12:43 Denyerec Then you can approach things with more directed questions, such as "How do I do X..."
12:43 Denyerec for which you might find a tutorial, or some assistance.
12:43 Valda okay, thanks
12:43 Denyerec It's just that Typo3 is a little heavy to summarise in one tutorial.
12:43 Denyerec There's a good overview document, called "INside Typo3"
12:44 Valda okay, if you were me, would you begin ton install Typo3 somewhere ? :D
12:44 Denyerec Explains the framework a little, but doesn't give you anything you could build a site with ;)
12:44 Valda "Inside Typo3"
12:44 Valda ok
12:44 Denyerec If I was doing this for the second time
12:44 Valda many thanks
12:44 Denyerec I would:
12:44 Denyerec 1- Create a HTML and CSS layout of a site I wished to build, with full dummy content
12:44 Valda the framework is the thing that interests me the most
12:44 Valda plain html, so
12:44 Valda that's okay
12:45 Denyerec 2- Download and follow "Futuristic Template Building" using my template, instead of the supplied one.
12:45 Valda and ?
12:45 Valda okay, it's quoted somewhere
12:45 Valda very nice Denyerec
12:45 Denyerec A lot of people jump right into say FTB (Futuristic tem...) without their own template, or even an idea of where they're heading.
12:45 Denyerec Which gets them pretty lost pretty fast.
12:46 Valda is this kind of template xml-like or else ?
12:46 Denyerec I fyou know "I want to create a menu that does *this* and I want a news ticker to appear over here.." etc then it's much easier to do.
12:46 Denyerec It's simply a normal HTML and CSS page.
12:46 Denyerec Nothing more.
12:46 Valda non, my interest is in the architecture
12:46 Valda really
12:46 Valda the framework global architecture
12:46 Denyerec Ah
12:46 Valda sorts of object
12:47 Valda model part, control part, view part
12:47 Denyerec well in which case, then "Inside Typo3" and the TSRef, and API are your documents.
12:47 Valda as I do with java frameworks
12:47 Valda okay, thanks
12:47 Valda I will also try to create some somple webpages
12:47 Denyerec There's also a very basic "Extension writing tutorial"
12:47 Valda mmmh
12:47 Denyerec which might highlight some parts of the extension architecture for you
12:47 Layna That's what I call timing... lookign for the same info ^^
12:47 Valda extension writing, I will discover this later
12:48 Valda and, regarding ajax ?
12:48 Denyerec Well Valda, I don't suggest you write an extenion, but reviewing it might give you some clues as to how the mechanism fits together.
12:48 Valda okay Denyerec
12:48 Denyerec right now, as far as I know, there's no ajax API
12:48 Denyerec If you want Ajax in the frontend, you add it yourself.
12:48 Valda and regarding PHP5 support ?
12:48 bekks hi
12:48 Denyerec I may be wrong, people like Just2b are much better qualified to comment on that stuff.
12:49 Valda Denyerec, many thanks for your commitment
12:49 Valda lol
12:49 Valda (yeek, another framework, gloops)
12:49 Denyerec PHP5 support? More like a PHP5 requirement...
12:49 Denyerec PHP5.2 will be required from 4.2 onwards/
12:49 Valda so, PHP5 is required ?
12:49 Denyerec Typo3 4.2 that is.
12:49 Valda hum
12:50 Denyerec You can use PHP4 on <4.1.2
12:50 Valda I have it on my mac, it runs smoothly
12:50 Denyerec but for 4.2 and up it will be a requirement.
12:50 Valda in a worker apache
12:50 bekks hi?
12:50 bekks sorry :)
12:50 Valda and, regarding sql server and postgresql, is it supported ?
12:50 bekks someone please can clue me on why "page.headerData.30.value = <my stylesheet definition>" isnt inserted at all when typed into an extension TS template on a single page?
12:50 Valda okay, let's go
12:51 Denyerec bekks, have you preceeded it with page. headerData.30 = TEXT ?
12:51 bekks Denyerec: no.
12:51 Denyerec Then you can't give it a .value yet ;)
12:51 Layna Ok, looking for "Extension writing tutorial" didnÄT really help... where do you even START writing a tiny little plugin?
12:51 bekks Denyerec: ok :)
12:51 Denyerec Layna - one moment.
12:52 Layna Ok :) *queries google some more meanwhile*
12:52 Denyerec http://typo3.org/documentation/document-library/tutorials/player_profile_basic/current/
12:53 Layna Thanks :)
12:53 Valda Denyerec, would you advise me to test the stable or the unstable version ?
12:54 Valda I love the newest ones (newer is better, lol)
12:54 Denyerec Valda - if you are using it just to make a website, then probably unstable is fine. If you're hacking away at the framework side of things, then it's probably better to work on something that is known to be stable, so that you know any errors that appear are your own.
12:54 Fanty why dosen't page.10 = COA_INT page.10.10 < plugin.myplugin work? With page.10 = COA it works
12:54 Valda okay, let's use the unstable one
12:55 bekks Denyerec: thx, it works now :)
12:55 Denyerec Fanty - check the docs on COA_INT
12:56 Denyerec I think there are certain things that you cannot put in there.
12:56 Valda how different is Typo3, considering Wordpress ?
12:56 Denyerec Completely.
12:56 Denyerec It's like comparing a screwdriver to a toolbox.
12:57 Denyerec Wordpress does one thing very well.
12:57 Fanty quote: COA_INT provides a way to utilize this feature not only with PHP_SCRIPT cObjects but any cObject.
12:57 Denyerec (Linear single user Blogs)
12:57 Denyerec Typo does many more things, and if it doesn't can be made to do so fairly quickly.
12:58 Denyerec Fanty, I'm afraid you're beyond my knowledge.
12:58 Denyerec You'll have to ask someone like Ries.
12:58 Valda Computador-Mobile:~/Sites/typo3 Supratec$ tar xvfz dummy-4.2.0alpha2.tar.gz
12:58 Valda gzip: stdin: not in gzip format
12:58 Valda Computador-Mobile:~/Sites/typo3 Supratec$ file dummy-4.2.0alpha2.tar.gz
12:58 Valda dummy-4.2.0alpha2.tar.gz: HTML document text
12:58 Valda lol, ok
12:59 Valda it's like the PHP download mirrors
13:21 Cass_ Hello everybody
13:23 Cass_ I am struggling to change a typo3 footer, but despite reading docs and watching some movies, it is not yet clear how to get to the footer content. Bear in mind that I have not developed this site, I am only changing it.
13:27 Cass_ anyone?
13:36 Cass_ Ok, thanks for the help guys.
13:36 Valda Cass_, sorry ?
13:36 Valda watching movies ?
13:37 Cass_ Hi Valda.. glad I saw your eyes blinking there.
13:37 Cass_ Then Valdo it is.
13:37 Valdo how did it come that you were watching movies ?
13:37 Valdo aren't you working ?
13:38 Cass_ Can you spare a few wizardry tips on typo3?
13:38 Cass_ Well, no, I am not watching any movies at all... hmmm.. actually I watched a quick clip on VLC, but that was about it
13:38 Cass_ no real movie
13:38 Cass_ :)
13:38 Cass_ and I am working, yes
13:41 Valdo sorry, I don't know much about ypo3
13:42 Valdo not even footers
13:42 Valdo I'm just discovering it
13:42 Valdo at the moment
13:42 umc Cass_: if you were using templavoila, it would be really easy...
13:42 umc as it would all be in the template file...
13:43 umc but I haven't used the old style layout since forever... can't help you there...
13:43 Cass_ Thanx Valdo. :) I am trying to discover about it myself
13:43 Cass_ umc: it appears that it is using the automatic template module
13:43 Valdo mmmmh
13:43 Valdo I have a small problem with my database
13:43 Valdo during installation
13:44 Valdo I'm using the mysql root user and my mysql root password
13:45 umc and what's the problem ?
13:45 umc do you have a linux or a windows setup ?
13:45 Valdo unix
13:45 Valdo bsd
13:45 Valdo I gave my password, and the mysql process is up
13:45 Valdo the php is rightly configured
13:46 umc is the backend running ?
13:46 Valdo An error occured. Please see details:
13:46 umc yeah...
13:46 Valdo do I need a backend ?
13:46 umc can you access the installation tool ?
13:46 m4rtijn Valdo, did u set all the CHMOD's ?
13:46 Valdo m4rtijn, yes
13:46 Valdo umc, yes
13:46 Valdo I'm in the second step
13:46 umc but not in 1-2-3 mode
13:47 umc switch to non-1-2-3
13:47 umc there should be a link there
13:47 Denyerec Cass_ ?
13:47 Denyerec you still there?
13:47 Cass_ Hi Denyrec
13:47 Cass_ Yep, I am still here
13:47 Denyerec Where's the site?
13:48 Valdo ok, I xill check the installation
13:48 Valdo many thanks
13:48 umc Valdo: switch to normal mode
13:48 umc then you have a list from 1 to 10
13:48 umc go to 1. Basic Configuration
13:48 umc then scroll down and see the db parameters
13:48 umc you can set the user and pass, then choose the database
13:48 umc should work fine
13:49 Valdo great
13:49 Valdo thanks
13:49 umc you're welcome
13:49 Cass_ Deny, www.obbard.co.uk
13:50 Denyerec Ok and what are you trying to change Cass ?
13:50 Denyerec Is it possible for you to give me a backend login?
13:50 Denyerec then I can better direct you
13:50 Cass_ Fact is that whoever coded this site left it extremely disorganised
13:51 Cass_ Sorry Deny, but I am not allowed to do that. If you would not mind sparing a few suggestions, I guess it'd be enough.
13:51 Denyerec That's like sayign "Help me fix this black box without looking inside."
13:51 Denyerec Is the site using TemplateVoila or Autoparser?
13:51 Cass_ I know and I'd more far more comfprtable with youy logging in, but unfortunately, that's not the case.
13:51 umc Autoparser
13:51 Cass_ Autoparser
13:52 Cass_ let me tell you how I undertand this works
13:52 Denyerec Well, you're going tohave to look through the template to find the footer marker, then look through the Typoscript for the code that changes that marker.
13:53 Cass_ first you come up with an initial html with your proper HTML marks and the autoparser will replace code within the tags you specify
13:53 Cass_ this is just to confirm I (kinda) understand how it works
13:53 Cass_ :)
13:53 Cass_ Right, the marker...
13:53 Cass_ I went on templates, listed and edited the template shown
13:55 Cass_ Deny:
13:55 Cass_ # Read the template file:
13:56 Cass_ content = FILE
13:56 Cass_ content.file = fileadmin/template/obbard/index.htm
13:56 Cass_ That's what I've got for the starting part of the template
13:56 Cass_ but - that file is not there!
13:56 Cass_ on the filesystem
14:00 Cass_ My first attempt was to go through the template file, as you suggested, but the fact that the indicated file is not on the FS really puzzles me
14:03 Cass_ Deny: I can try to post the template file on pvt for you, if possible
14:04 Valdo ouaaaa
14:04 Valdo 36 tables created
14:04 Valdo lol
14:05 Valdo mysql> show tables;
14:05 Valdo 35 rows in set (0.00 sec)
14:05 Valdo how nice
14:06 Cass_ Congrats Valdo
14:06 Valdo the backend is running now
14:06 Valdo it's half the installation work
14:06 Valdo I created a typo3 database
14:08 Valdo can someone remember me the default install tool password ?
14:09 m4rtijn joh316
14:09 m4rtijn or password
14:13 Valdo the administration interface is nice
14:20 marc hey #typo3
14:21 null00 hi
14:21 marc are there any known problems with Advanced FLV Player & Video Gallery, cause i cant manage to resize the player
14:21 marc it looks like it ignores my entries in flexform completly
14:22 m4rtijn hi
14:27 Valdo grrrr
14:27 Valdo how do I change that install tool password ?
14:27 marc if i look at the source, i see that there are totally different values used
14:27 marc s1.addVariable("width","360");s1.addVariable("height","288")
14:27 marc but i couldnt figure out where they are set
14:29 null00 Valdo: Go to install
14:29 null00 then change it
14:29 Valdo there is no install link
14:30 null00 in the backend?
14:30 Valdo even I have found the install interface, there is no password field
14:30 Valdo yeah, in the backend
14:30 Valdo absolutely
14:30 Valdo it's name is setup
14:32 null00 no
14:33 null00 more downwards
14:33 null00 under TOOS you will find "Configuration"
14:33 null00 now you have to typo in the install passwird joh???
14:33 Denyerec cass ?
14:33 marc yeah got it, it was hardcoded in ext_typoscript_setup.txt
14:44 Valdo class.t3lib_db.php on line 796
14:44 Valdo Warning: mysql_fetch_assoc(): supplied argument is not a valid MySQL result resource in
14:44 Valdo grrr
14:45 null00 quiet normal.. did you update from a previous version? :->
14:46 Valdo Error!
14:46 Valdo No template found!
14:47 Valdo nope, it's a plain installation
14:47 Valdo the alpha one
14:47 Valdo http://mac.le-valdo.com/~Supratec/typo3/cms/index.php
14:47 Valdo can you see that page ?
14:49 Valdo there is a LOT of warnings
14:49 Valdo very boring
14:50 Denyerec ?
14:50 Denyerec There's 4
14:50 Denyerec 2 of which are the result of the first 2
14:50 Denyerec :)
14:50 Denyerec If you think that's a lot of warnings, compile something for an ARM9 using GCC.... ;)
14:50 Valdo lol
14:50 Valdo there is one
14:50 Valdo the first one
14:51 Valdo the others are for the php headers
14:51 Valdo it's my plain installation
14:51 Valdo I'va just made
14:51 Denyerec Yah
14:52 Denyerec you created a root page?
14:52 Denyerec and a template record for that root page?
14:52 Valdo :)
14:52 Valdo I don't think so$
14:52 Denyerec if not, then don't try visiting the frontend ;)
14:52 Denyerec As there isn't one yet ;)
14:52 typochur if you want to see a lot of errors run <?php while( $data = fgets( $fp ) ) echo "hi;";?>
14:52 typochur :)
14:52 Denyerec True, it shoudl fail gracefully, but hey.
14:53 Denyerec MOst people actually want to run a website using it so such a thing is low priority ;)
14:53 Denyerec I'd say the cost per error ratio was pretty good ;)
14:53 Valdo Denyerec, the page I have created is a root page
14:53 Valdo Is root of website: true
14:53 Denyerec Can you give me a backend login for your site valdo ?
14:53 Denyerec that'll make it MUCH easier for me to help you
14:53 Valdo okay
14:53 Valdo one moment
14:53 Denyerec pm it to me.
14:54 Denyerec hey kreegee
14:55 Valdo Denyerec, done :)
14:56 Fanty how do I template tabular data like a table without using templavoila with the oldfashioned template system in typo3?
14:56 Fanty can't find any examples
14:58 Denyerec valdo - I am unsure that you created that template correctly.
14:58 Denyerec I think you need to delete the template record from the List view
14:59 Denyerec then go to the template module and "create a new site template" for the root page.
15:00 Benneben|work I need an expert on freecap CAPTCHA, I want to use it with mailformplus
15:00 Benneben|work who'se up for it?
15:01 Denyerec Not I.
15:01 Benneben|work blast!
15:03 Benneben|work Denyerec: maybe you know anything mailformplus if you want to process some input-data before you send a mail?
15:03 Valdo Denyerec, do I need to know TypoScript hings in order to create a template ?
15:04 m0oman_ not necessarily, but it makes things a lot easier.
15:05 Denyerec Yeah Benneben - you have to modify the core code I think.
15:05 Denyerec Valdo - to create a default template that just says "Hello world", is usually created by default.
15:05 Denyerec If you do as I suggested, it should create a couple of lines of TS for you
15:06 Valdo ok, can we summarize the small steps I have to make ?
15:06 Valdo 1/ create a page
15:06 Valdo 2/ give it the root attribute
15:06 Valdo 3/ creating a template
15:07 Denyerec You have a page called test
15:07 Denyerec so click thepage in the tree
15:07 Denyerec then click the template module
15:07 Denyerec then click "Create template for new website"
15:07 Denyerec Do not select antyyhing from the dropdown
15:08 Valdo ok, by template module you mean the icon on the left of the page ?
15:08 Denyerec yes
15:08 Valdo in the "Web" section ?
15:08 Denyerec those things are "modules"
15:08 Denyerec which change what you see in the right hand window
15:09 Denyerec each module operates on the currently selected page from the tree
15:09 Denyerec so if you select page "test", then the "template" module will be operating on that page.
15:09 Valdo there is no "Create template for new website" link
15:10 Valdo sorry if i'm a noob
15:10 Valdo :/
15:10 Valdo aaaaah yes
15:10 Valdo I found it
15:10 Denyerec noob
15:10 Denyerec ;)
15:11 Valdo in fact i clicked on the dro down menu on the right
15:11 Valdo that's why I didn't see nothing
15:14 Denyerec See you now have 6 lines in your TS setup
15:15 Denyerec ah
15:15 Denyerec did you read the contents of the large yellow box?
15:15 Denyerec WHen you log in?
15:15 Denyerec the large, unmissable warning box?
15:15 Fanty anyone able to point me in a direction for an example of an extension that templates a list of data without templavoila?
15:15 Valdo yes Denyerec
15:15 Valdo indeed
15:16 Valdo but I could'nt find the palce where to edit that password
15:16 Denyerec heh
15:16 Denyerec "install tool password" in the install tool didn't jump out at you ?
15:16 Denyerec Tools -> Setup
15:16 Denyerec you'll get a warning about needing a file called ENABLE_INSTALL_TOOL
15:16 Denyerec so do as it says
15:17 Denyerec then go to the install tool again :)
15:17 Valdo If you don't know the current password, you can set a new one by setting the value of $TYPO3_CONF_VARS['BE']['installToolPassword'] in typo3conf/localconf.php to the md5() hash value of the password you desire.
15:17 Valdo do I really have to compute that md5 ?
15:17 Denyerec No
15:17 Denyerec do as I say
15:17 Valdo I'm there
15:17 Valdo do I have to remove that file ?
15:18 Denyerec you have to make sure it exists.
15:18 Valdo In fact, I was pretty sure it was the contrary
15:20 Denyerec The message says:
15:20 Denyerec The Install Tool is locked.
15:20 Denyerec Fix: Create a file typo3conf/ENABLE_INSTALL_TOOL
15:20 Denyerec This file may simply be empty.
15:20 Denyerec I don't know how that could be made any more clear ;)
15:21 Valdo indeed
15:21 Valdo but where did you get that message ?
15:21 Valdo done
15:21 Valdo Computador-Mobile:~/Sites/typo3/cms/typo3conf Supratec$ touch ENABLE_INSTALL_TOOL
15:22 Valdo The Install Tool is enabled. Make sure to delete the file "ENABLE_INSTALL_TOOL" when you have finished setting up TYPO3
15:22 Valdo hum
15:23 Valdo and now ?
15:24 Denyerec Hah
15:24 Denyerec the 4.2 install tool is shit.
15:24 Denyerec install the old one.
15:25 Valdo lol, ok
15:25 Denyerec the old one 1) Explains things 2) Works 3) Has all the options available.
15:26 Valdo the old one is installed
15:27 Valdo should I remove the new one ?
15:27 Valdo lol
15:29 Denyerec I think when you got to the install tool now, it'll ask you
15:31 Valdo no
15:31 Valdo I can install any of them
15:31 Valdo and both of them at the same moment
15:31 Valdo vey nice ^^
15:32 Valdo TYPO3 Fatal Error: Extension key "install" was NOT loaded! (t3lib_extMgm::extPath)
15:32 Valdo nice
15:34 Valdo Denyerec, I think I will take some coffee
15:34 Denyerec Did I , or did I not say something about using stable? :)
15:34 Valdo many thanks for your help dude
15:34 Denyerec I had forgotten that they had ruined the install tool.
15:34 Valdo rofl
15:35 Valdo what kind of things do I have to do with that install tool ?
15:35 Valdo aprt from changing that password ?
15:37 Valdo The running TYPO3 version (4.2.0alpha2) is lower than required (4.2.0)
15:37 Valdo lol, ok
15:37 Valdo VERY nice
15:37 Denyerec youneed to run the update wizard
15:37 Denyerec to correct some issues with the database.
15:38 Denyerec I am thinking you would be MUCH better off looking into 4.1.2
15:38 Denyerec because these problems do not exist.
15:38 Valdo hum, ok
15:41 Valdo then...
15:41 Valdo create a new database
15:41 Valdo get the old stable 4.1.2
15:41 Valdo do I need to change the dummy installation too ?
15:47 Denyerec yeah
15:47 Denyerec just get going from clean with 4.1.2 or 4.1.3 whichever is new stable.
15:47 Denyerec Then once you have a feel for things, you can try 4.2
15:48 Valdo 4.1.4
15:48 Valdo it's the last stable
15:48 wpd_nullbyte hi ... does someone know a extension for creating forms
15:49 typochur cwt_feedit
15:50 typochur it's comfortable to create forms, but it supports only three types, I think: text, textarea, select
15:50 wpd_nullbyte something like the forms including in ttcontent ..but easier for a normal user
15:50 wpd_nullbyte thanks typochur
15:51 typochur welcome ;)
15:53 wpd_nullbyte oh
15:53 wpd_nullbyte the extension is not for a normal user
15:54 wpd_nullbyte 1. include the script in your extension
15:54 wpd_nullbyte but i dont have an extension
15:56 typo3-dev hello everybody
15:57 typo3-dev hello??
15:58 wpd_nullbyte hi
15:59 typo3-dev i'm beginner using typo 3
15:59 typo3-dev someone can tell me if it's hard or soft 2 use ?
16:00 typo3-dev hello ??
16:00 typo3-dev is there any typo3man ?
16:00 typochur ey
16:00 typochur stop spaming around
16:01 typo3-dev am not doing that
16:01 typo3-dev am just asking
16:01 typochur no, your spaming
16:01 typochur ask you question and wait
16:01 wpd_nullbyte what you want to do with typo3?
16:01 typochur if someone wants to talk to you he will do that
16:01 typo3-dev ok
16:01 wpd_nullbyte and when it has to be finished?
16:01 typochur wpd_nullbyte, sry, thought you need it for your own extension
16:02 typo3-dev i want to learn how to use typo 3
16:02 EgonSpengler hi. is it possible to define a constant within the typoscript of a fce?
16:02 wpd_nullbyte np typochur ...any other idea?
16:02 typochur wpd_nullbyte, no sorry, i use typo just for coding extensions :) All the other stuff is done by my admin ... I don't know anything about that ;)
16:03 Denyerec typo3-dev - no-one in here will be able to tell you how to use Typo3. You have to try using it, then come back with more targetted questions.
16:03 typo3-dev ok am happy to beb here when i'll be in critical situation i'll ask you
16:03 typo3-dev thx everybody
16:03 Denyerec typochur - you are an extension writer ?
16:03 typochur Denyerec, oehm, uh, ah, um, urgs ... i try to :)
16:04 Denyerec :)
16:04 Denyerec Don't suppose you've ever extended or had to look at DirectMail ?
16:04 typochur hr hr ... i know my admin tried to use it onetime, but we kicked it since it is unusable :)
16:04 Denyerec how long ago ?
16:05 typochur mh .. just a couple of weeks
16:05 Denyerec Odd you found it unuseable
16:05 Denyerec I had it working just perfect... until a small problem appeared
16:05 typochur it just didn't send mails :) he tried and tried and after hours he gave up ;)
16:06 typochur Now we are using PHPList, which is not perfect, since it is not included in typo3 directly, but I didn't have the time to look at the problem yet
16:06 wpd_nullbyte we use directmail
16:06 Valdo Denyerec, the 4.1.4 install tool is EXCELLENT
16:06 Denyerec Yeah told you they ruined it.
16:07 wpd_nullbyte whats your problem Denyerec
16:07 Denyerec nullbyte, do you have a moment?
16:07 wpd_nullbyte :D
16:07 Denyerec My problem is this:
16:07 Denyerec When I create a directmail page, and add some content, I can view it in the frontend just fine.
16:07 Denyerec Then when I add some tt_news records using "insert record" content elements, it renders in the frontend just fine.
16:07 Denyerec However
16:08 Denyerec When I got to step 2 of the wizard, to compile the mail, the tt_news records disappear. BUT. They ONLY disappear from the HTML mail. In the plaintext email they are still visible.
16:08 Denyerec Once you get to step2 of the wizard, ifyou visit the page on the frontend the records are gone, until you flush the FE cache.
16:09 wpd_nullbyte which version do you use?
16:10 Denyerec 2.5.2
16:10 Denyerec sorry for the lag, had to go look it up.
16:12 Denyerec http://www.microwavemarketing.com/index.php?id=64 there is an example page
16:12 Denyerec and once you confirm you have viewed it, I will run the directmail wizard
16:13 Denyerec so you can see what happens
16:29 wpd_nullbyte i know this problem
16:29 wpd_nullbyte we solved it with an update to 2.5.2.
16:30 wpd_nullbyte after that direct mail works fine
16:31 wpd_nullbyte but taht dont seems to be a resolution for you
16:31 wpd_nullbyte sry
16:35 Denyerec so nulllbytew
16:35 Denyerec You had this problem ?
16:36 Denyerec then you updated to 2.5.2 and it went away?
16:36 Denyerec wpd_nullbyte sorry
16:38 Valdo Denyerec, http://mac.le-valdo.com/~Supratec/typo3/cms-stable/index.php?id=1
16:38 Valdo great
16:38 Valdo it runs ^^
16:39 wpd_nullbyte yes
16:39 wpd_nullbyte after go to step 2 the frontend page turns white and no content was in the mail
16:40 Denyerec in which case, I will delete all trace of Directmail and re-install it.
16:46 wpd_nullbyte or set up a new typo3
16:48 typo3-dev i'm beginner using typo 3
16:48 typo3-dev someone can tell me if it's hard or soft 2 use ?
16:48 wpd_nullbyte hi typo3-dev
16:48 wpd_nullbyte welcome back
16:49 Valdo half hard, half soft
16:49 Valdo it depends if you sue the instable version or not
16:49 Valdo lol
16:49 wpd_nullbyte <Denyerec> typo3-dev - no-one in here will be able to tell you how to use
16:49 wpd_nullbyte Typo3. You have to try using it, then come back with more targetted
16:49 wpd_nullbyte questions.
16:49 wpd_nullbyte <typo3-dev> ok am happy to beb here when i'll be in critical situation i'll
16:49 wpd_nullbyte ask you
16:49 wpd_nullbyte you still got an answers for this question
16:49 wpd_nullbyte try another one :D
16:50 typo3-dev no
16:50 typo3-dev i want only to know
16:50 Denyerec some parts are easy
16:50 typo3-dev if it's too complicate to use
16:50 Denyerec some parts, like directmail, are a total bitch
16:50 Denyerec as they fail for NO good reason
16:50 typo3-dev 4 exemple 2 create my own extention
16:50 typo3-dev 4 exemple 2 create my own extension
16:51 typo3-dev ok
16:51 typo3-dev am working on it
16:51 wpd_nullbyte you good with php and mysql?
16:51 typo3-dev but what am seeing is on internet there is no typo3 website exemple
16:51 typo3-dev yes
16:51 typochur typo3-dev, how is bread?
16:52 typochur is it good to cut? is it good to eat?
16:52 typochur is good to clean the floor? :)
16:52 typochur why do you not just try it out? We can not answer that question, if typo3 fits YOUR needs
16:52 typo3-dev >-<
16:52 typo3-dev i want 2 see exemples of websites
16:52 typo3-dev on google there is noone
16:52 typo3-dev published
16:53 typochur search "powered by Typo3"
16:53 typo3-dev ok
16:53 typochur and you willfind more than enough websites
16:55 wpd_nullbyte but example pages will not help you making a decision
16:55 typochur right
16:55 Denyerec www.microwavemarketing.com
16:55 Denyerec was my first typo3 site
16:56 Denyerec and currently the one PISSING ME OFF with respect to Directmail
16:56 Denyerec Grrr
16:56 wpd_nullbyte at the end all pages in the web are html/js
16:59 ries http://www.grimmy.com/comics.php
17:00 wpd_nullbyte nice :-)
17:00 Denyerec hey ries
17:01 ries hey Denyerec
17:01 ries This one is also good : http://www.grimmy.com/images/MGG_Archive/MGG_2007/MGG1206.gif
17:01 Denyerec <-- still fighting Directmail
17:01 Denyerec starting from scratch again.
17:01 Denyerec :(
17:11 typo3-dev mm
17:11 typo3-dev good luck man Denyerec
17:12 wpd_nullbyte i am off
17:12 wpd_nullbyte bye
17:19 ries don't update to 4.1.4 yet.. there are some bugs in 4.1.4 for non english sites
17:19 Denyerec FKING DIRECTMAIL
17:19 Denyerec I have reached the end of my tether with this stupid bloody problem.
17:19 Denyerec No-one on the mailling list bothered to reply.
17:19 Denyerec No-one in here will take money to solve the problem.
17:20 Denyerec And yet, there seems to be 1001 people happily using DirectMail.
17:20 typo3-dev ok
17:26 Denyerec awillys ?
17:26 Denyerec fanty ?
17:26 Denyerec floxx, EvilEd ?
17:27 Denyerec First result on google/
17:27 Denyerec http://www.nabble.com/tt_news-and-DirectMail-HTML-content-disappearing-to13727632.html
17:28 Denyerec How helpful. It's me. Asking for help.
17:28 Fanty Denyerec: never used it :)
17:30 Denyerec That might actually put you in a better position...
17:32 Denyerec marc ? Number-5 ?
17:32 Denyerec tuxick ?
17:38 TYPO3 hello
17:39 uschi_ hello folks
17:40 Denyerec hey uschi_
17:41 Denyerec can I hire you to fix my directmail woes?
17:41 uschi_ hey Denyerec :-)))
17:41 uschi_ no, definitely not
17:41 uschi_ still the same problems?
17:41 Denyerec Yes, the same problem.
17:41 Denyerec 2 months now.
17:41 uschi_ oooops
17:42 uschi_ i never played with direct mail, so i cannot be of any help
17:42 Denyerec well
17:42 Denyerec as I said to fanty
17:42 Denyerec perhaps a new pair of eyes would do better
17:42 TYPO3 !mode +e
17:42 uschi_ mine are very tired today
17:43 Denyerec I can guarantee they are not as tired, or as cold as mine.
17:45 uschi_ i had several meetings today plus a very bad cold
17:45 Fanty Denyerec: heh, sorry mate... I dont have time.. putting in overtime to get this extension done in time
17:45 uschi_ everyone seems to be desperate today
17:46 No5251 can i define a hidden field for an fce that?
17:46 No5251 -that
17:50 Denyerec uschi_ I've been desperate for 2 months.
17:50 Denyerec No-one even responded on the mailling list
17:50 Denyerec Not even with an "RTFM"
17:50 Denyerec Nothing, not a peep.
17:55 Denyerec And what's worse
17:55 Denyerec is I can't even seem to PAY anyone to fix the problem
17:55 Denyerec No-one even wants money to touch it.
17:56 No5251 how long ago did you write the mail?
17:56 Denyerec 2 months maybe?
17:56 No5251 oh
17:57 Denyerec Nabbler picked it up on Nov 13th
17:57 Denyerec so maybe a month ago I posted.
17:57 Denyerec http://www.nabble.com/tt_news-and-DirectMail-HTML-content-disappearing-to13727632.html
18:04 razer_ hiho
18:04 razer_ i have some problems with my menu
18:04 razer_ the 2nd. menu level does not work
18:04 razer_ TS: http://nopaste.com/p/aD3MBhQkdb
18:05 razer_ could any1 please have a look?
18:13 Tobeyt23 Can anyone suggest a method for making this happen ... need to make pages that have news and maps that are auto created when the user enters info?
18:23 Denyerec m?
18:23 TYPO3 ries
18:23 TYPO3 r u there?
18:24 ries what's up?
18:24 TYPO3 prv plz
18:25 TYPO3 k?
18:33 razer_ can you suggest me a tutorial about navigations?
18:33 razer_ or help me with my problem
18:33 razer_ just anything?
18:37 Valda hi
18:37 Valda I'm back
18:37 Valda two questions:
18:37 Valda how do I create themes with html css, for typo3 ?
18:38 Valda what are the templating engines ?
18:38 Valda can I use smarty ?
18:38 Valda 3, in fact
18:38 Valda and two more questions:
18:38 razer_ you create your template or themes like any other website
18:38 Valda how do I link my data layer to my Typo3 views ?
18:39 Valda and where do I put my model classes ?
18:39 Valda thanks razer_
18:39 razer_ its not like smarty
18:39 razer_ you dont define your classes i think
18:39 razer_ you put some markers into the html and dafi
18:39 razer_ eh
18:40 razer_ define them with typoscript
18:41 Valda okay, but if I have a PHP or Java codebase, and would like to use it to fill m pages, how do I proceede ?
18:41 Valda hum, ok
18:41 razer_ you can paste your php code into the markers
18:42 razer_ you can grab your stuff directly from mysql if you like
18:42 Valda typoscript markers ?
18:42 razer_ jea like ###WHATEVER### in your template.html
18:42 Valda no, it's mixing view and models
18:42 razer_ and marks.WHATEVER in your typoscript
18:42 Valda and I'm interested in templatevoila too
18:42 razer_ hmmm
18:43 Valda okay
18:43 razer_ im new to this whole stuff
18:43 Valda typoscript then
18:43 razer_ hope i haven't told you any crap yet
18:44 Valda you know, typo3 is just a view, lol
18:44 Valda a big view
18:44 Valda for displaying my datas
18:44 Valda :D
18:44 razer_ : )
18:47 Denyerec template voila is a nice templating systme
18:47 Denyerec makes it very easy to work with a designer
18:48 Denyerec as they can just create html/css views, and you wire them up as required.]
18:48 razer_ i still need some help with my menu :/
18:50 Denyerec razer ?
18:51 razer_ jea?
18:52 Valda Denyerec, how do I fill that templates with my data ?
18:52 Valda using the typo3 framework ?
18:53 Denyerec use templatevoila :)
18:53 razer_ Denyerec: whats up?
18:54 Valda hum
18:54 Valda okay
18:54 Denyerec razer you said yuou needed help
18:56 razer_ Denyerec: oh jea posted it some time ago...one moment
18:56 razer_ the 2nd. menu level does not workTS: http://nopaste.com/p/aD3MBhQkdb
18:56 razer_ its a very basic text menu with 2 levels....but i cant see the 2nd level
18:57 razer_ http://84.245.145.14/typo3
18:57 razer_ i reduced the menu to the minimum
19:00 Denyerec http://paste2.org/p/10433
19:00 Denyerec that's how I do mine.
19:00 Denyerec try doing it "long hand"
19:00 Denyerec without the 2 < .1 shortcuttery
19:01 Fanty anyway to disable the links in a menu easily? I just want it displayed a bit like a sitemap
19:02 Fanty or.. rather an unclickable sitemap :D
19:03 Valda Denyerec, do you think it could be possible to generate typo3 pages automatically from xml data ?
19:03 razer_ but how can i tell typo that it should view the 2nd menu level?
19:06 Fanty razer_: http://typo3.org/documentation/document-library/references/doc_core_tsref/4.1.0/view/8/11/ - take a look at entryLevel - that might be what you need
19:07 razer_ but the entryLevel is set properly
19:07 razer_ at least i think it is -_-
19:07 razer_ TS: http://nopaste.com/p/aD3MBhQkdb
19:14 Denyerec if you're going to do that I'd question why bother using Typo3 in the first place
19:14 Denyerec but
19:14 Denyerec I'm sure generatig pages from XML is not impossible
19:14 Denyerec and would in fact be pretty easy
19:19 skurfuerst hi everybody
19:22 d|g hi all
19:23 Valda Denyerec, generating automatically, and then modify by hand
19:28 Fanty razer_: you're using special=directory
19:28 Fanty that wont give you more than one level
19:28 razer_ Fanty: ehm ok
19:29 razer_ Fanty: but without it there is no navigation at all
19:29 razer_ Fanty: so how can i create a simple navigation with two levels?
19:33 Fanty razer_: http://nopaste.com/p/aBwpVT94A a very simple 2 level menu pasted from a quick and dirty dev typo3 sandbox I'm using once in a while
19:34 Fanty razer_: but you should take a look at some menu tutorials - I know there's several desent ones
19:36 razer_ Fanty: sorry but i cant see any navigation with your code :/
19:36 razer_ Fanty: but thanks anyway
19:37 razer_ Fanty: oh it just shows all points of the current position
19:38 razer_ Fanty: but i would like to see all the level 1 points plus all submenus of the selected point
19:39 razer_ Fanty: do i have to change something in the backend to make it work?
19:42 Fanty razer_: not sure I understand what you mean... if I'm on a lvl2 page it lists all lvl1 items and all lvl2 items in the parent lvl1 page of the page I'm on. And the page I'm has a bold title
19:43 razer_ Fanty: i just can see all lvl 2 items when i select a lvl 1 item
19:43 razer_ Fanty: is there any additional stuff i have to add?
19:44 razer_ Fanty: to your code i mean
19:45 Fanty razer_: sorry.. I know why - I've removed a bit from it that runs a tracing extension I've been playing with :) add a MENU.10.1.NO.allWrap = |<br/>
19:46 Fanty all of your menu is there.. its just in one line
19:47 Fanty or actually its not if it dosen't get wrapped I think
19:54 razer_ Fanty: im still unable to see it :/
19:54 razer_ Fanty: but nevermind...ill find some solution
19:55 razer_ Fanty: thanks for your help
19:55 Fanty razer_: read a tutorial :)
19:55 razer_ Fanty: jea sure i read plenty of them
19:56 razer_ Fanty: iv copied a solution from a book 1to1....but this doesn't work too
19:56 Fanty then you're template is most likely messed up somehow
19:56 Fanty and its not the menu
19:56 Fanty just a guess tough
19:57 razer_ hmm jea
19:57 razer_ rootline doesn't work too
19:57 razer_ a bit strange
20:02 Fanty Anyone know how I can remove the links from a menu? Just want the menu to be the text without the links...
20:19 dax77 hi friends :)
20:29 Denyerec hey dax
20:35 dax77 what's up?
20:35 dax77 quiet around here
20:44 Denyerec dax ?
20:44 Denyerec gah!
21:07 null00 gn8
21:24 yassine hi everyone
21:24 yassine ries:
21:24 yassine are you there ries?
21:25 yassine how can i recover my password of the backend admin?
21:25 ries Hey yassine
21:26 ries yassine: you cannot... you need to modify the md5
21:26 yassine how ?
21:26 ries using a editor...
21:26 ries ftp/ssh
21:26 yassine im on the server now
21:26 yassine which file i should edit?
21:27 ries go totypo3conf/localconf.php
21:27 ries find the line with $TYPO3_CONF_VARS['BE']['installToolPassword']
21:27 ries the last line.. sometimes typo3 add more then one line :)
21:27 ries create a md5 of your favorite password
21:27 ries and fill it in there...
21:27 ries that will make you beable to login in the install tool
21:28 ries then generate a new admin password
21:28 ries you can also modify the DB..
21:28 yassine okay
21:29 nature good day... i'm attempint to set up news using the built in news module and I'm obviously doing something wrong (read I'm clueless). is the documentation available for this and can anyone direct me to it if so?
21:50 Valdo back
21:52 isolysis hi all, does anyone know if the setting to configure realurl to display in the format domain.com/directory/ or domain.com/directory.html is defined in the typo3 itself, or is it done via the mod_rewrite / isapi_rewrite ?
23:12 Denyerec Anyone here want to get themselves hired to fix a DirectMail problem?
23:12 Josef__ Hi,
23:13 Josef__ today i descoverd a weird display bug in ie can anyone help me?
23:14 Josef__ try to view www.neumeier-energiepass.de in internet explorer 7 and tell me if you have the same display bugs, plz

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