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00:14 nature good day...
00:15 nature we're having a problem with a site we are building. AFter a few minutes we get the "Tempate not Found" Error. IF we clear the cache for the FE the page loads.
00:18 ries nature: just all of a sudden'
00:18 ries ?
01:13 nature well... sore of all of a sudden
01:13 nature yeah
01:13 nature i wasn't really working on the project when the problem began
01:46 ries what language?
01:47 ries @nature
01:50 nature english
02:30 ries nature: sounds good to me...
02:31 ries I have heard of the problem before, but never experianced it myself
02:43 nature what sounds good? :) it's broken and I can't find a fix
03:24 nature ridiculous... view page, renders fine, click for another link, get Template not found error, Clear FE cache, reload, page renders, click another link, repeat error
03:36 ries I mean... english is good...
09:08 umc anyone here using tt_products ?
09:09 Fanty anyone able to recommend some reading on backend extension module development?
09:10 umc Fanty, there's a tutorial for the kickstarter extension
09:11 umc pretty helpfull
09:12 Fanty mhmm
09:12 umc http://typo3.org/documentation/document-library/tutorials/player_profile_basic/0.0.8/view/toc/0/
09:15 umc anyone knows how to change the order of the fields displayed with the FEUser extension ?
09:36 zilucas hello
09:37 zilucas Sorry, you can change the settings predefine's web typo, FTP user?
09:41 mamep is there an easy way to handle typo3 thumbnails from uploaded images?
09:45 mamep ?
09:47 animan 0,,3
09:48 animan sry
09:48 animan hi
09:48 zilucas hi
09:48 umc hello
09:49 mamep hey
09:50 animan i ran into a problem when i made a copy from a page (copied all files so ts and pids are same), but somehow extendedshop plugin don't work properly anymore
09:51 animan after ordering a product it should direct client to shoppingcart, but instead client is directed to front page :/
09:52 mamep is there an easy way to handle typo3 thumbnails from uploaded images??
09:53 umc animan: what extensions did you use for the shop ? I'm trying to install something myself, and tt_products didn't work for me
09:53 umc mamep, what do you mean by "handle" ?
09:54 animan umc: extendedshop
09:54 umc does it have any dependencies ? is it hard to use ?
09:55 umc and can you have categories and subcategories ? actually I'm not doing anything for selling, just presenting products and info
09:56 animan actually i would recommend using "commerce" plugin instead, but i have an special setup where this page must me exactly like the old one where we used extendedshop
09:56 zilucas Sorry, you can change the settings predefine's web typo, FTP user?
09:58 umc I see... thanks animat. I'll try that one. Actually I think I tried to install it yesterday and I got some error message that it couldn't find something
09:58 umc everything was fubar-ed
09:58 umc lucky I kept everything in git and I had a dump of the db
10:04 mamep umc : i'm trying to write an extension for typo3 and i need to make thumbnails from uploaded images
10:05 mamep but i'm not sure if it's done automatically by typo3 and if so how to use it
10:05 umc check some of the existing extensions...
10:05 umc see how they do it
10:05 umc for example I use a banner extension... it shows thumbs...
10:05 umc but I have the feeling that it's done automatically...
10:06 mamep hmm
10:06 mamep k
10:06 umc or anyway, the system must surely provide the API for managing that
10:27 umc pfff... this is annoying... what in the name of Mike should I search for on Google to get to some page explaining how to rearrange the fields from the registration form created with sr_feuser_register ? :(
10:27 teppi|work you must edit the template file
10:28 umc are you sure that also changes the order ?
10:28 teppi|work yes
10:28 umc it has only markers in there
10:28 umc I'll give it a try... :)
10:28 teppi|work i swear!
10:28 teppi|work :-)
10:28 umc I already edited it to add my new fields in there
10:28 umc glad that worked
10:29 teppi|work hihi .. in the moment i'm heavily cutomizing sr_feuser_register
10:29 umc you're also using md5 for passwords ?
10:29 teppi|work yes .. but .. i'm not at this point atm
10:30 umc I think there are some security problems in sr_feuser_register extension...
10:30 umc with XSS
10:30 umc you can enter some carefully crafted info in the fields and it's fubar
10:31 umc I don't think the inputs are sanitized properly
10:32 umc ah... and it worked... I changed the order
10:32 umc thanks :)
10:33 teppi|work np .. yeah .. i dont like md5 integration, too ..
10:33 umc why not ?
10:33 umc it's better to keep the passwords hashed
10:33 umc by the way... do you use https when working with sensitive data ?
10:33 teppi|work the integration like sr_feuser_register is doing it i meant
10:33 teppi|work no
10:34 umc and you're sending everything (including users passwords) in clear ? :-S
10:34 teppi|work nope .. as i said i use md5 .. ut i dont like the way its integrated :-)
10:35 umc ok... one more question... did you ever install some extension for some shopping module ?
10:35 teppi|work no
10:35 teppi|work i installed tt_products once
10:35 umc I just want to display some products with pictures, categorised, with info, no selling. do you have any ideea what extension would be usefull ?
10:36 teppi|work but im not very familiar with that extension
10:36 umc I installed tt_products, but it didn't work for me... after including the tt_products template, I got blank
10:36 teppi|work look at tt_products .. i think its the std extension for this use case .. but im not sure if its the best
10:36 teppi|work hm .. sry .. i dont know anything else
10:37 umc oki. thanks for the tips
10:37 tmende hey ho. :) I have a problem with the login in typo3. I use the Version 4.1.3. I create the userarchive and say the login the pid but i cant login a frondend user. Have anyone a idear, what the problem is?
10:38 umc do you use standard login or the new login box ?
10:39 tmende i test it on the std login and new login box
10:39 umc did you set the general recors storage page of the page with the login form to the page that contains the use records ?
10:40 tmende what do you mean?
10:40 umc you have a system page where you keep users... right ?
10:40 tmende yes
10:40 umc and you have a normal page where you added the login form, or the new login form
10:40 tmende sysfolder
10:41 tmende yes
10:41 umc go edit the page properties of the page with the form
10:41 tmende ok
10:41 umc and there's a field with general records storage
10:41 umc click on browse there, and choose that sysfolder with users
10:42 tmende sec
10:46 tmende it would not work. I set the sysfolder in the rootpage and in the page, where the from ist
10:46 tmende is
10:47 tmende i cleard the cache from typo3 and the page
10:47 Jananne i've got FLASH in my basic template. It's all working without typo3 set up. But when i set it up in typo3 my whole FLASH isnt working anymore ( flash in html source ).
11:01 umc tmende, did you read the manual of the new_login_form ? maybe you missed something in there
11:02 tmende ok, i will check it
11:03 umc and if you use the new login form, you might want to check the ts settings... the plugin has some pid or uid value, I don't rembember exactly
11:04 tmende i set the pid
11:04 umc not sure about it though... I can't check now as my typo setup is now working atm
11:04 umc and it still doesn't work ?
11:04 tmende ok :)
11:04 tmende no
11:07 mamep umc : nothing usefull :(
11:08 umc sorry mamep... I didn't work with extensions yet. I did once something simple, but nothing involving images...
11:10 mamep k anyone else?
11:17 tommyd Hi all! I had very weird charset problems in the t3 backend for a 4.1.4 standard installation
11:17 tommyd I switched the user's language to de and all the translated strings in the backend went harakiri
11:18 umc tommyd, if it's a fresh setup, I recommend switching be, fe and db to utf8
11:18 umc then you won't have any more problems
11:18 tommyd now I "fixed" the problem by setting charSetArray['de'] explicitely to 'utf-8' in class.t3lib_cs.php (default value was '', which is supposed to be 'iso-8859-1')
11:18 tommyd umc: oh, I think I switched everything already
11:19 tommyd forceCharset was set to utf-8, db was utf-8, set names utf-8 was appended in localconf.php, aso.
11:19 umc if it's successfully switched, you shouldn't have any problems
11:19 tommyd umc: is there a newer ressource than this wiki page? http://wiki.typo3.org/index.php/UTF-8_support
11:20 umc I followed the tutorial from http://www.typo3-media.com/blog/article/utf8-and-typo3-updated.html
11:20 tommyd I pretty much did and tried whats on this page
11:20 umc I found it to be pretty well writen
11:21 umc that one worked fine for me, and I use weird languages too.. from latin2
11:22 tommyd this handles mysql settings pretty well, yeah, but my problem is locallang.xml related
11:22 tommyd all the german locallang.xml files are properly encoded in utf-8
11:22 tommyd the xml header states the same
11:23 tommyd still, the typo3 backend tries to convert these utf-8-encoded xml file contents into latin-1
11:23 tommyd and fails miserably, unless I do the above mentioned change in class.t3lib_cs.php
11:43 Tchinkatchuk hi all
11:44 Tchinkatchuk Just a tip. I want to declare a variable in tsConfig and use it in setup.
11:45 Tchinkatchuk but i am a noob and can not succeed
11:46 Tchinkatchuk sry, i'll find it ^^
11:47 banban i'm using realurl so i can generate nice urls. i configured realurl that print versions of pages are shown as http://url-to-page/print.htm. So with that print.htm at the end. Now i would like Typoscript to generate those links for printing depending on what page you are the moment. I'm using that code: http://phpfi.com/283749 , but it dowsn't work completely: i get http://url-to-page/ but not print.htm at the end... na
11:52 teppi|work should be easy possible by postvarset config parameter
11:52 teppi|work banban,
11:52 teppi|work http://typo3.org/documentation/document-library/extension-manuals/realurl/1.2.1/view/1/2/#id3693281
11:53 teppi|work you can define a postvarset for type=98 i think
11:54 typochur banban, you have to write print.htm in wrap
11:54 typochur wrap= |/print.htm
13:11 banban typochur: i've already tried that wrap but no go....
13:20 pulponair hi there
14:09 Tchinkatchuk_ I have an issue with crawler.
14:10 Tchinkatchuk_ Url crawled are mysite.comindex.php?id=20. the / is missing
14:35 banban i'm using realurl so i can generate nice urls. i configured realurl that print versions of pages are shown as http://url-to-page/print.htm. So with that print.htm at the end. Now i would like Typoscript to generate those links for printing depending on what page you are the moment. I'm using that code: http://phpfi.com/283749 , but it dowsn't work completely: i get http://url-to-page/ but not print.htm at the end... na
14:46 No5251 search in your realurl conf the chapter for print and change "type => 98" to "print => 1"
14:51 banban No5251: what should i achieve with changing type?
14:53 No5251 a /print.html instead of page.html?print=1
14:58 banban No5251: well that is not my problem... i get correct print output... i would like to generate url via typoscript so each print link would have http://url-to-page/print.htm form
15:04 No5251 hm. you mean http://www.example.org/topic/page/print.html !?
15:09 banban yes~
15:32 xerxes1978 afda
15:58 solshark Anyone speak Russian here?
16:04 ries-away solshark: njet :D
16:04 solshark ries-away: Hehe :)
16:04 solshark ries-away: My English is vary bad so i can't discribe my problem :)
16:04 ries-away solshark: Looks good enough to me actually...
16:04 solshark ries-away: But i'm try if you have some free time.
16:06 ries-away solshark: depends on the question... but there are other peopel here that might have the answer
16:06 solshark ries-away: Ok, i'm try to discribe. Thx.
16:06 solshark ries: Oops :)
16:06 solshark So, my problem.
16:07 solshark I need display content from Storage Folder. Simple page content, text with images.
16:07 solshark I have created lib.showcase object in TS Setup.
16:08 solshark http://phpfi.com/283799
16:08 solshark But i need show content in two columns.
16:09 solshark I don't know how can i do this.
16:09 ries solshark: you can get both content elements, and wrap it in a couple of divs and style it with css so it shows up in two columns?
16:11 solshark ries: Hmm. Sorry, can't correctly understand. How can i set some creterias, f.e. " any 2-nd item must be wrapped
16:12 solshark ...
16:12 solshark Oops
16:12 ries you wrap it in a divs which you will style so it shows up in two columns
16:12 solshark I mind any 2nd item must be wraped |<br />
16:13 ries why you need a br?
16:13 solshark ries: Mmm. It's just for example. I think i need different wrap for each 2nd item, right?
16:14 ries No
16:15 solshark ries: For example, <div class="first_col_item">first content</div><div class="secons_col_item">second content</div>
16:15 ries wrap it in a div, and give it a width
16:15 ries then float the div left (I think)
16:15 solshark ries: Mmm. I understand. I'll try this now. Thx :)
16:19 solshark ries: Thx for advice :) It's work.
16:20 ries solshark: no problem..
16:30 Tchinkatchuk_ does new typo3 packages works with php4.1.11 ? My customer told me he can't ???
16:34 solshark Tchinkatchuk_: http://wiki.typo3.org/index.php/System_requirements#PHP I think some useful information you can get here.
16:35 Tchinkatchuk_ thx solshark . I could not find infos
16:35 solshark Tchinkatchuk_: But, as i know, 4.2 works only with 5.x
16:40 Tchinkatchuk_ solshark: yes. it is not displayed at all on typo3.org, that's a shame
16:48 ries Tchinkatchuk_: They left PHP 4.x behind.. and php4 is not officially supported anymore
16:52 Tchinkatchuk_ ries: I saw this but i have readen it will be in January 1st 2008
16:52 Tchinkatchuk_ thanks all.
17:06 mamep is there an easy way to handle typo3 thumbnails from uploaded images??
17:11 isolysis hi, can anyone please help me with my realurl configuration?
17:12 isolysis in my httpd.conf rewrite file on the server i have RewriteRule (.*\.html)\??(.*) /index.php [L] which will rewrite domain.tld/directory/page1.html correctly, but recently I changed the realurl to output in the format domain.tld/directory/page1/ however, I don't know how to update the rewrite rules in the httpd.conf file, because i get 404 errors when trying to visit the links in typo3
17:35 d|g hi all
17:42 zilucas You can configure typo3 so that files uploaded from the web uses the FTP protocol?
17:42 zilucas It is not that apache: apache
17:42 zilucas sorry, if possible
17:49 zilucas ??????????
18:00 Denyerec Hey peoples
18:23 Denyerec Any RealURL lovers here?
18:24 Denyerec Got a postvar not expected problem coming out of tt_news
18:50 Denyerec just2b - don't suppose you're around are you ?
18:53 Denyerec You know.
18:53 Denyerec It's be nice if typo3 "Just worked"
19:04 Denyerec typochur - ever used tt_news and realURL ?
19:08 Denyerec tuxick - much good with realURL ?
19:09 m0oman i swapped realur for cooluri and i would say my life is 40% better now.
19:13 tuxick heh not me
19:34 Denyerec m0oman - really ?
19:34 m0oman yes. i loathed the way you had to set up realurl. and in cooluri i could just easily figure out everything i needed myself fairly easily.
19:34 Denyerec Do you still rememeber working with RealURL though ?
19:35 Denyerec I can't move to CoolURI cos of SImpleXML missing.
19:36 m0oman to a certain amount, but not being able to figure out what was wrong was one of the reasons i switched to cooluri - plus having horrific problems with getting it to work with tt_news as i wanted.
19:36 m0oman ah, php4?
19:37 Denyerec yeah
19:37 Denyerec http://www.microwavemarketing.com/nc/Users//archive/2006/october.html
19:37 Denyerec I have similar archive-related issues on every site I've ever done, I think.
19:37 Denyerec the default configuration just DOES NOT WORK.
19:37 Denyerec Why something so fundamentally broken has been allowed to propagate in the wild is beyond ,e.
19:37 Denyerec *m
19:37 Denyerec *me
19:39 Denyerec elbart :D
19:39 elbart hiho
19:39 elbart hoi Denyerec
19:39 Denyerec Have you ever worked with RealURL my good man?
19:39 m0oman i don't think it's broken. it just has never been built for userfriendliness. :<
19:39 elbart lol
19:40 elbart only a little bit, but i have seen some examples of a friend of mine who works together with me
19:40 Denyerec http://www.microwavemarketing.com/nc/Users//archive/2006/october.html
19:40 Denyerec http://www.datum-flooring.co.uk/datumpolydeck/archive/2007/november.html?tx_ttnews%5Bday%5D=01&cHash=84178a7c3d
19:41 Denyerec NO matter what I do I can't get rid of that shit: ?tx_ttnews%5Bday%5D=01&cHash=84178a7c3d
19:41 Denyerec Adnd further, it always breaks when returning from an archive item
19:41 Denyerec Oh
19:41 Denyerec *idea*
19:41 m0oman hm. :<
19:42 elbart could you paste the current realurl config?
19:42 Denyerec I loaded the default from aeurtool
19:42 Denyerec but I shall, one moment.
19:42 Denyerec http://paste2.org/p/10729
19:45 isolysis denyerec what is the setting enableCHashCache' => '0' ?
19:45 Denyerec I read about it elsewhere, and thought it might get rid of &cHash=84178a7c3d#
19:46 Denyerec it does not seem to help, though
19:46 Denyerec (The problem existed both before and after)
19:46 isolysis i see.. i have it set to 1 and i also have that chash rubbish showing up in some of the urls.
19:46 Denyerec Oddly enough, I have another site running "Ok ish"
19:46 Denyerec I still get the stupid POstVar error, but at least there's no crap in the URLs
19:47 Denyerec I wonder if I should upgrade the versions of RealURL and tt_news...
19:47 Denyerec though if I break it completely I won't be happy.
19:47 elbart mhh
19:48 isolysis i think it would be an idea to use the latest versions of the extensions
19:48 isolysis but i dont think that alone will get rid of the attributes from the urls
19:48 elbart but u thought enabling the cHash means that realurl is then able to handle the chash
19:48 elbart i thought, not u :)
19:49 isolysis lol
19:49 elbart :P
19:50 elbart here: If set, cHash GET parameters are stored in a cache table if they are the only parameters left as GET vars. This allows you to get rid of those remaining parameters that some plugins might use to enable caching of their parameter based content.
19:51 isolysis interesting but even when i have it set to on, i still have this at the end of the .html?tx_ttnews%5BbackPid%5D=7&cHash=c8954d27ca
19:54 elbart hmm
19:56 andreasbalzer hi :) In which PHP array does T3 store TYPOScript entries for FE rendering?
20:04 andreasbalzer does anyone have a clue?
20:07 elbart sry Denyerec, can't imagine whats wrong there
20:08 elbart date configuration looks good
20:08 Badenser andreasbalzer, saw my irc query messages?
20:08 Badenser andreasbalzer, (i dont know how miranda handles such things ... ;-)
20:09 andreasbalzer Badenser: didn't you get an answer?
20:09 Badenser nope
20:09 andreasbalzer Badenser: wow.. seemed like a real chat for me ;)
20:09 andreasbalzer aem... funny
20:09 andreasbalzer how to login at this server again?
20:10 Badenser ehm, using miranda? no idea ...
20:10 andreasbalzer yeah
20:11 andreasbalzer ok.. it should work now
20:12 tuxick bbl
20:12 elbart Denyerec, i only see in every tt_news real url config, that enableCHashCash is activated
20:13 elbart did you already cleared the typo3conf cache after changing this?
20:16 andreasbalzer Does somebody know how to include TYPOScript via PHP in FE (http://typo3.org/extensions/repository/view/ce_gallery/2.0.0/info/pi1%252Fstatic%252Fsetup.txt/)
20:20 Denyerec elbart, isolysis, sorry about that I was called away.
20:21 isolysis wb denyerec
20:21 isolysis let me recap on your issue.. your urls are working and are accessible, but there is some garbage on the end that you want to strip?
20:22 Denyerec the urls are not working :)
20:22 Denyerec on this back link,
20:22 Denyerec http://www.datum-flooring.co.uk/home.html
20:22 elbart only the ttnews_archive is not working
20:22 Denyerec click a [more] link
20:22 Denyerec then the back link breaks
20:22 Denyerec yes, the archive is buggereated
20:23 Denyerec it's a common problem with all the sites i've done with archives it seems
20:25 isolysis i see the back to archive link gives the broken postvar error
20:25 isolysis mine seems to work
20:25 isolysis i will get u my config
20:26 isolysis 1 sec
20:30 andreasbalzer How to enable spam protection for tt_news? Is it possible?
20:31 isolysis actually.. did you say this is only happening with archived entries? the 'back to news' link usually works on my site but I dont know about the archive stuff..
20:31 isolysis this is what i have in my realurl config, but be warned, apparently their is syntax errors in there
20:31 isolysis http://paste2.org/p/10730
21:28 mamep is there an easy way to handle typo3 thumbnails from uploaded images??
21:31 mamep anyone?
21:32 Atr1 what do you mean?
21:33 mamep well when i' uploading an image through backend
21:33 mamep i know that there is an thumbnail created for this image
21:33 mamep and i want to use it somehow
21:33 Slaytypo3 hi all
21:33 Atr1 you mean you want to use the thumbnail that is created on the fly in typo3temp?
21:34 Slaytypo3 how can i reset the pid count
21:34 mamep yeap
21:34 mamep or create one
21:34 mamep i'm trying to make a ver simple gallery with slideshow
21:35 mamep and it's better to use thumbs than full size images
21:35 Atr1 I don't know how to use that..I'd look at the galleries available to see what they do (?)
21:35 Slaytypo3 PID reset.. is that possible?
21:35 Atr1 slaytypo3 pid count where?
21:36 Slaytypo3 in the tree
21:36 mamep Atr1 : i've tried that but i'm a little bit stucked :(
21:36 Slaytypo3 i deleted some old pages... and now i created new ones
21:37 Slaytypo3 the new pages start where the others ended..
21:37 Atr1 mamep: : )
21:38 Atr1 Slaytypo3: does it really matter? mine are all over the place with demo pages/test pages/depeted pages
21:38 mamep can you help me a little bit
21:39 Slaytypo3 k... but i installed a new template and cant seem to get it right.. i thought it was about that
21:39 mamep http://pastebin.ca/820932
21:39 mamep check this one
21:39 mamep i'm getting two of an image
21:39 mamep and i don't know how to fix it
21:41 Atr1 mamep: I'm not much of extension dev so I'd not know where to star, see if just2b has time sometimes he made/maintains smoothgallery
21:41 Atr1 looking at pastebin I'm really crap
21:41 Atr1 slaytypo3: I don't think that can be the problem
21:45 Slaytypo3 Atr1: ok.. ill have a closer look
21:50 mamep hey anyone can help me with image['linkWrap'] ?
22:46 Denyerec Need some help with tt_news and realURL
22:46 Denyerec Anyone feeling charitable?
22:46 Denyerec andreasbalzer ? :)
22:46 Denyerec isolysis - I looked through your config and it looks the same as mine does.
22:46 Denyerec So tt_news I think must be generating the wrong URLs
22:46 Denyerec Thing is...
22:46 Denyerec ...I can't seem to STOP it from doing so.
22:47 andreasbalzer hi denyerec
22:47 Denyerec Hey andreas
22:47 Denyerec You got much experience with tt_news and its arch enemy realURL ?
22:47 andreasbalzer I doubt that I can help there
22:47 Denyerec Damn
22:47 andreasbalzer The only thing I have done till now was using the typo3.org config
22:50 isolysis denyerec: your urls work to a certain point like they do on my site.. i haven't tested the archive version of the links, but i am guessing they will break on my site too in that case
22:51 Denyerec Do you think I should, perhaps, disable the archive? :)
22:51 Denyerec I have a suspicion with some head scratching I could re-write the config to make it work with the generated URLs
22:51 Denyerec afterall, they are consistent, just non-conformant.
22:51 Denyerec I'm just giong to try triggering the RealURL auto-configuration
22:52 Denyerec as it doesn't appear to have executed.
22:55 Denyerec isolysis - which version of RealURL do you see installed?
22:55 Denyerec this site is running 1.1.1 and the extension repository reports this as the latest.
22:55 Denyerec However the manual mentions 1.4...
22:56 isolysis i have 0.3.1 denyerec
22:56 Denyerec Yikes.
22:56 isolysis no wait
22:56 isolysis sorry that is the realurlmanagement ext
22:56 isolysis haha
22:57 isolysis i have 1.1.4
22:57 isolysis lol
22:59 isolysis denyerec: i am going to clock off from work in a few minutes, but if you get anywhere with the archive configuration let me know..
23:00 Denyerec ok iso, thanks for your interest!

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