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03:25 laohenry hi all
03:25 laohenry hi all
07:35 meppl good morning
07:35 meppl good morning
08:56 tobstar can I somehow prevent typo from wrapping text in <p> tags in table cells?
08:56 tobstar can I somehow prevent typo from wrapping text in <p> tags in table cells?
09:01 nkuttler tobstar: maybe if you only have the table there is a way. but can't you just redefine the css for those?
09:01 nkuttler tobstar: maybe if you only have the table there is a way. but can't you just redefine the css for those?
09:05 tobstar The problem is that the <p> tags add extra spacing between the cells, that sort of screws things up. On the other hand, I want to have regular text in table cells, these would have to be <p>-wrapped
09:05 tobstar basically I don't want the <p> wrapping if there's only one paragraph in the cell
09:05 tobstar Redefining the css couldn't do that, I guess
09:06 nkuttler do you have it online?
09:06 tobstar yeah, one sec
09:06 tobstar http://schottdorf-it.de/t3/cms/
09:07 tobstar I'd prefer not to use a table there anyway but the frontend users who'll have to edit it will do it like that anyway
09:08 tobstar it should be something like that: http://schottdorf-it.de/t3/cms/fileadmin/template/uniklinik/uniklinikum/patienteninfo/wissenswertes.html
09:08 nkuttler i guess you tried something like table p { margin:0; padding:0 } ?
09:09 nkuttler ah. no. that won't solve it
09:09 tobstar wouldn't it?
09:09 nkuttler well it would apply to real text content as well
09:09 tobstar It would solve it a bit too much, I think
09:09 tobstar yeah
09:09 nkuttler yeah
09:09 nkuttler will the editors only edit the links or other stuff as well?
09:05 tobstar The problem is that the <p> tags add extra spacing between the cells, that sort of screws things up. On the other hand, I want to have regular text in table cells, these would have to be <p>-wrapped
09:05 tobstar basically I don't want the <p> wrapping if there's only one paragraph in the cell
09:05 tobstar Redefining the css couldn't do that, I guess
09:06 nkuttler do you have it online?
09:06 tobstar yeah, one sec
09:06 tobstar http://schottdorf-it.de/t3/cms/
09:07 tobstar I'd prefer not to use a table there anyway but the frontend users who'll have to edit it will do it like that anyway
09:08 tobstar it should be something like that: http://schottdorf-it.de/t3/cms/fileadmin/template/uniklinik/uniklinikum/patienteninfo/wissenswertes.html
09:08 nkuttler i guess you tried something like table p { margin:0; padding:0 } ?
09:09 nkuttler ah. no. that won't solve it
09:09 tobstar wouldn't it?
09:09 nkuttler well it would apply to real text content as well
09:09 tobstar It would solve it a bit too much, I think
09:09 tobstar yeah
09:09 nkuttler yeah
09:09 nkuttler will the editors only edit the links or other stuff as well?
09:10 tobstar The goal is to have them create their content completely on their own
09:10 tobstar Is there an easy way to set the table's class in the editor?
09:10 tobstar without having to use the html view
09:10 nkuttler i guess you could edit the html and set it there. i think it should be preserved unless somebody changes it later. not sure though.
09:11 tobstar ah, screw it.
09:11 tobstar I'll just create a modified template for those pages.
09:11 tobstar I don't think they're going to mix those and tables with regular text.
09:12 nkuttler well just tell them not to
09:12 tobstar will do
09:12 tobstar thanks for your help
09:12 nkuttler gern
09:13 tobstar ;-)
09:10 tobstar The goal is to have them create their content completely on their own
09:10 tobstar Is there an easy way to set the table's class in the editor?
09:10 tobstar without having to use the html view
09:10 nkuttler i guess you could edit the html and set it there. i think it should be preserved unless somebody changes it later. not sure though.
09:11 tobstar ah, screw it.
09:11 tobstar I'll just create a modified template for those pages.
09:11 tobstar I don't think they're going to mix those and tables with regular text.
09:12 nkuttler well just tell them not to
09:12 tobstar will do
09:12 tobstar thanks for your help
09:12 nkuttler gern
09:13 tobstar ;-)
09:18 timdeluxe oh wait, i yesterday found a solution for it... let me search
09:18 timdeluxe oh wait, i yesterday found a solution for it... let me search
09:20 tobstar okay
09:20 tobstar okay
09:27 timdeluxe__ note to myself: buy a new computer
09:27 timdeluxe__ :/
09:29 tobstar heh
09:27 timdeluxe__ note to myself: buy a new computer
09:27 timdeluxe__ :/
09:29 tobstar heh
09:31 timdeluxe__ ok. i only found a solution for typo3 < 4.*
09:32 tobstar okay
09:32 tobstar thank you anyway
09:32 tobstar I think I got it covered now
09:33 tobstar I just removed the height attribute of the table in the html editor, now it renders just fine.
09:31 timdeluxe__ ok. i only found a solution for typo3 < 4.*
09:32 tobstar okay
09:32 tobstar thank you anyway
09:32 tobstar I think I got it covered now
09:33 tobstar I just removed the height attribute of the table in the html editor, now it renders just fine.
10:12 tobstar another tiny question. Typo automatically inserts an <a> tag in front of images, possibly to create an anchor
10:12 tobstar where can I tell typo to set a special attribute to this and only this link?
10:12 tobstar http://schottdorf-it.de/t3/cms/ <-- it's the one above the picture
10:13 tobstar <a id="c6"></a>
10:12 tobstar another tiny question. Typo automatically inserts an <a> tag in front of images, possibly to create an anchor
10:12 tobstar where can I tell typo to set a special attribute to this and only this link?
10:12 tobstar http://schottdorf-it.de/t3/cms/ <-- it's the one above the picture
10:13 tobstar <a id="c6"></a>
10:17 timdeluxe just for security reasons (yes i was to curious): you should secure the cms2 folder
10:17 timdeluxe the database pw is there in cleartext
10:18 timdeluxe and sorry, i don't know how to solve your question
10:18 tobstar good point
10:18 tobstar i prefer you digging in there over a 13 year old script kiddie
10:18 tobstar will fix
10:17 timdeluxe just for security reasons (yes i was to curious): you should secure the cms2 folder
10:17 timdeluxe the database pw is there in cleartext
10:18 timdeluxe and sorry, i don't know how to solve your question
10:18 tobstar good point
10:18 tobstar i prefer you digging in there over a 13 year old script kiddie
10:18 tobstar will fix
10:20 timdeluxe ah
10:20 timdeluxe i found something
10:20 timdeluxe thx to a thick book ;D
10:21 timdeluxe it is in css styled content
10:21 timdeluxe wait a moment
10:21 tobstar ok
10:23 timdeluxe ok the standard setup is:
10:23 timdeluxe tt_content.stdWrap.dataWrap = <a id="c{field:uid}"></a> |
10:24 tobstar alright
10:24 tobstar I'll see
10:24 timdeluxe if you want to set an special attribute i think you have just to set this in your TS
10:24 tobstar yes
10:20 timdeluxe ah
10:20 timdeluxe i found something
10:20 timdeluxe thx to a thick book ;D
10:21 timdeluxe it is in css styled content
10:21 timdeluxe wait a moment
10:21 tobstar ok
10:23 timdeluxe ok the standard setup is:
10:23 timdeluxe tt_content.stdWrap.dataWrap = <a id="c{field:uid}"></a> |
10:24 tobstar alright
10:24 tobstar I'll see
10:24 timdeluxe if you want to set an special attribute i think you have just to set this in your TS
10:24 tobstar yes
10:35 timdeluxe please give feedback if it was right, i am interested in :D
10:36 tobstar yeah i'm still tryin to figure out where this should go
10:37 timdeluxe in the root ts template?
10:38 tobstar that's my regular root template, isn't it?
10:39 tobstar i've put it there (in a changed version), but there's no change
10:35 timdeluxe please give feedback if it was right, i am interested in :D
10:36 tobstar yeah i'm still tryin to figure out where this should go
10:37 timdeluxe in the root ts template?
10:38 tobstar that's my regular root template, isn't it?
10:39 tobstar i've put it there (in a changed version), but there's no change
10:40 tobstar alright
10:40 tobstar gotta love caching
10:40 tobstar works just fine
10:41 tobstar thanks a lot
10:40 tobstar alright
10:40 tobstar gotta love caching
10:40 tobstar works just fine
10:41 tobstar thanks a lot
10:46 timdeluxe no problem
10:46 timdeluxe its from a very good book
10:47 timdeluxe "typo3 4.0 - das handbuch für entwickler"
10:49 tobstar that's probably a book I should get....... :-)
10:46 timdeluxe no problem
10:46 timdeluxe its from a very good book
10:47 timdeluxe "typo3 4.0 - das handbuch für entwickler"
10:49 tobstar that's probably a book I should get....... :-)
10:51 null hi
10:53 nkuttler do you know the typo3 kochbuch? do you think it's worth getting it if you have the kochbuch?
10:51 null hi
10:53 nkuttler do you know the typo3 kochbuch? do you think it's worth getting it if you have the kochbuch?
11:07 null if you do not know how to cook, it is generally better to have a cookingbook, if you like to cook :)
11:07 null if you do not know how to cook, it is generally better to have a cookingbook, if you like to cook :)
11:10 timdeluxe hrhrhrhr
11:10 timdeluxe hrhrhrhr
11:17 nkuttler oh well, if it just solves one problem it's probably worth it's money
11:17 nkuttler oh well, if it just solves one problem it's probably worth it's money
12:08 Phlogi hello guys!
12:08 Phlogi hello guys!
12:18 tobstar hi
12:18 tobstar hi
13:33 _tilman is there an mailform-extension which allows selectable recipient or recipient by topic ?
13:34 jananne I made a backup from my typo3 website (.TAR), now i copied it back and everything seems to work again in Front End. But i can't edit/remove/add anything new in BACK END! My whole Back End starts to f*ck up when i do that. Does any one have a clue why?
13:33 _tilman is there an mailform-extension which allows selectable recipient or recipient by topic ?
13:34 jananne I made a backup from my typo3 website (.TAR), now i copied it back and everything seems to work again in Front End. But i can't edit/remove/add anything new in BACK END! My whole Back End starts to f*ck up when i do that. Does any one have a clue why?
13:35 nkuttler jananne: permissions problem? what about the database? did you copy it as well?
13:36 jananne yes i did copy the database.
13:36 jananne Maybe i can't edit it or something.
13:37 jananne the database *
13:37 jananne i can't even login with joh316 at 'SETUP'.
13:38 jananne nkuttler: ^^
13:39 nkuttler why not? any error message? and check the db access permissions
13:39 jananne Well, when i try to add a new page my whole tree disappears.
13:35 nkuttler jananne: permissions problem? what about the database? did you copy it as well?
13:36 jananne yes i did copy the database.
13:36 jananne Maybe i can't edit it or something.
13:37 jananne the database *
13:37 jananne i can't even login with joh316 at 'SETUP'.
13:38 jananne nkuttler: ^^
13:39 nkuttler why not? any error message? and check the db access permissions
13:39 jananne Well, when i try to add a new page my whole tree disappears.
13:42 null clear cache? check db relations. delete *TEMP from typo3conf dir
13:42 null clear cache? check db relations. delete *TEMP from typo3conf dir
13:49 jananne nkuttler: I'll take a look, thx already
13:49 jananne nkuttler: I'll take a look, thx already
13:54 jananne nkuttler: How can i check the DB relations?
13:54 jananne nkuttler: How can i check the DB relations?
13:58 jananne nkuttler: When i try ( for example ) to delete a tt_news record, it doesnt delete it at all. But when i look in the cache something is changed.
13:58 jananne Status: cache_pages:0, cache_pagesection:0, cache_hash:2
13:58 jananne nkuttler: When i try ( for example ) to delete a tt_news record, it doesnt delete it at all. But when i look in the cache something is changed.
13:58 jananne Status: cache_pages:0, cache_pagesection:0, cache_hash:2
14:08 nkuttler jananne: i'd try a fresh install, check that it works, copy typo3conf, fileadmin / uploads folder from the archive, put the old db back into the db. probably faster than trying to find the error.
14:08 nkuttler jananne: i'd try a fresh install, check that it works, copy typo3conf, fileadmin / uploads folder from the archive, put the old db back into the db. probably faster than trying to find the error.
19:12 nkuttler [globalVar = TSFE : beUserLogin > 0] doesn't seem to be true if the be user can't edit any content on the fe side. any ideas?
19:12 nkuttler (want a logout button visible for be users only)
19:13 tsrepadmin anybody knows how i can set the count of an article in tx_commerce?
19:12 nkuttler [globalVar = TSFE : beUserLogin > 0] doesn't seem to be true if the be user can't edit any content on the fe side. any ideas?
19:12 nkuttler (want a logout button visible for be users only)
19:13 tsrepadmin anybody knows how i can set the count of an article in tx_commerce?
19:20 bekks hi
19:22 bekks i remember with some elder v3.x version, there was a functionality to so see what pages are "in work" by some other logged in user. how do i enable that feature in v4.1.x?
19:24 ShadowHunter isn't the "feature" activated by default?
19:24 bekks ShadowHunter: actually not. i remember that feature was active even if two users using the same credentials had been logged on
19:20 bekks hi
19:22 bekks i remember with some elder v3.x version, there was a functionality to so see what pages are "in work" by some other logged in user. how do i enable that feature in v4.1.x?
19:24 ShadowHunter isn't the "feature" activated by default?
19:24 bekks ShadowHunter: actually not. i remember that feature was active even if two users using the same credentials had been logged on
20:12 elbart hi
20:12 elbart hi
20:52 corpix hi
20:53 corpix i am completely new to typo3, i understood typo3 is installed locally on my machine, but does the webserver, which will host a site, created with typo3, need typo3 installed on it ? or is php/apache2 enough ?
20:54 bekks corpix: you have a webserver running php, you should be fine
20:54 corpix ok, so i dont need typo3 on that server (that justs hosts a typo3-created site) ?
20:52 corpix hi
20:53 corpix i am completely new to typo3, i understood typo3 is installed locally on my machine, but does the webserver, which will host a site, created with typo3, need typo3 installed on it ? or is php/apache2 enough ?
20:54 bekks corpix: you have a webserver running php, you should be fine
20:54 corpix ok, so i dont need typo3 on that server (that justs hosts a typo3-created site) ?
20:55 bekks uhm - well ... how do you run typ3 without having it installed?
20:55 bekks and how do you create a typo3 site without having typo3 creating it?
20:56 corpix no, i want to create a site with typo3, locally installed on my machine (not the "real" webserver, but a box with apache, php5 and typo3 installed)
20:56 bekks corpix: you cannot do that
20:56 bekks typo3 is based on dynamicly created content using php and mysql
20:57 corpix ok, so i need at least mysql/php/apache _AND_ typo3 installed on the global webserver, right ?
20:57 bekks sure
20:57 corpix ok, then i buy a dedicated server
20:57 bekks why??
20:58 corpix to have access/rights to install typo3
20:58 bekks install it on your local user public_html and beg your admin for having access to a single mysql db
20:58 bekks and you'll be fine
20:58 timdeluxe__ there are many webhosters, who support typo3 installation
20:59 corpix i got a simple strato page
20:59 corpix with a simple ftp login
20:59 corpix not even mysql
20:59 timdeluxe__ whaaaa. i would consider to change to a "better" hoster
20:59 timdeluxe__ where support is a bit better :)
20:59 bekks corpix: without mysql - no go
20:59 corpix yeah
20:55 bekks uhm - well ... how do you run typ3 without having it installed?
20:55 bekks and how do you create a typo3 site without having typo3 creating it?
20:56 corpix no, i want to create a site with typo3, locally installed on my machine (not the "real" webserver, but a box with apache, php5 and typo3 installed)
20:56 bekks corpix: you cannot do that
20:56 bekks typo3 is based on dynamicly created content using php and mysql
20:57 corpix ok, so i need at least mysql/php/apache _AND_ typo3 installed on the global webserver, right ?
20:57 bekks sure
20:57 corpix ok, then i buy a dedicated server
20:57 bekks why??
20:58 corpix to have access/rights to install typo3
20:58 bekks install it on your local user public_html and beg your admin for having access to a single mysql db
20:58 bekks and you'll be fine
20:58 timdeluxe__ there are many webhosters, who support typo3 installation
20:59 corpix i got a simple strato page
20:59 corpix with a simple ftp login
20:59 corpix not even mysql
20:59 timdeluxe__ whaaaa. i would consider to change to a "better" hoster
20:59 timdeluxe__ where support is a bit better :)
20:59 bekks corpix: without mysql - no go
20:59 corpix yeah
21:00 bekks corpix: you should be fine with one of their webpacks
21:00 timdeluxe__ and it is possible to host an typo3 project, without having typo3 completely installed
21:01 timdeluxe__ don't stay at strato... there are many out there, who are better and faster with typo3
21:01 corpix yeah, strato is slow
21:02 corpix i am looking for something right here in germany
21:02 bekks i recently stumpled upon a typo3 hoster ...
21:03 timdeluxe__ i can't suggest you one with own experience, because i am having my own dedicated server
21:03 null i have made good experiences with hosting-agency and low-budget typo3 sites
21:03 null just for to be mentioned
21:04 bekks http://www.mittwald.de/
21:04 corpix well, thats the point "own dedicated server"
21:04 null but a own server is a fine thing
21:04 corpix i'll put gentoo on it, and i am done
21:04 bekks they're offering a complete typo3 install
21:00 bekks corpix: you should be fine with one of their webpacks
21:00 timdeluxe__ and it is possible to host an typo3 project, without having typo3 completely installed
21:01 timdeluxe__ don't stay at strato... there are many out there, who are better and faster with typo3
21:01 corpix yeah, strato is slow
21:02 corpix i am looking for something right here in germany
21:02 bekks i recently stumpled upon a typo3 hoster ...
21:03 timdeluxe__ i can't suggest you one with own experience, because i am having my own dedicated server
21:03 null i have made good experiences with hosting-agency and low-budget typo3 sites
21:03 null just for to be mentioned
21:04 bekks http://www.mittwald.de/
21:04 corpix well, thats the point "own dedicated server"
21:04 null but a own server is a fine thing
21:04 corpix i'll put gentoo on it, and i am done
21:04 bekks they're offering a complete typo3 install
21:07 corpix thanks guys
21:07 corpix thanks guys
21:57 meppl good night
21:57 meppl good night

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