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01:18 andreas_ Hi. I just installed typo3-dummy via aptitude on Debian but I do not know how to start editing a local site
01:18 andreas_ localhost just shows "It works!"
01:18 andreas_ Can anyone please help me with this?
01:18 andreas_ Hi. I just installed typo3-dummy via aptitude on Debian but I do not know how to start editing a local site
01:18 andreas_ localhost just shows "It works!"
01:18 andreas_ Can anyone please help me with this?
08:10 Olegs hi all
08:10 Olegs can anybody recommend a good event calendar, besides of cal_base ?
08:10 Olegs hi all
08:10 Olegs can anybody recommend a good event calendar, besides of cal_base ?
08:34 koomi moin
08:34 koomi moin
08:39 Olegs hi
08:39 Olegs hi
08:44 andreasbalzer uschi_: I guess you don't have time? ;)
08:44 uschi_ right you are, andreasbalzer :)
08:44 uschi_ i will have breakfast now
08:44 andreasbalzer uschi_: I guess you don't have time? ;)
08:44 uschi_ right you are, andreasbalzer :)
08:44 uschi_ i will have breakfast now
08:45 andreasbalzer ok ;)
08:45 andreasbalzer ok ;)
09:47 meppl good morning
09:47 meppl good morning
10:08 dokma ppl
10:08 dokma do you know how I can see generated queries for an ext for the backend part?
10:08 koomi debug?
10:09 dokma I have some problems debugging t3references for the backend part
10:09 dokma which debug?
10:09 dokma which setting?
10:08 dokma ppl
10:08 dokma do you know how I can see generated queries for an ext for the backend part?
10:08 koomi debug?
10:09 dokma I have some problems debugging t3references for the backend part
10:09 dokma which debug?
10:09 dokma which setting?
10:10 koomi the mysterious and magic debug settings. can't tell you about them, they're secret.
10:12 dokma I've already set a few debug settings in the install tool
10:12 dokma but they do not show me the sql query that fails
10:12 koomi i think there's config.debug, the admin panel
10:12 koomi and some other settings i can't remember just now.
10:13 dokma this is for the backend
10:14 dokma an ext written by kasper t3references has a lot of bugs in it
10:14 koomi log perhaps?
10:14 dokma so I'm trying to fix that
10:14 dokma typo3 log?
10:14 dokma I'm on a shared server
10:10 koomi the mysterious and magic debug settings. can't tell you about them, they're secret.
10:12 dokma I've already set a few debug settings in the install tool
10:12 dokma but they do not show me the sql query that fails
10:12 koomi i think there's config.debug, the admin panel
10:12 koomi and some other settings i can't remember just now.
10:13 dokma this is for the backend
10:14 dokma an ext written by kasper t3references has a lot of bugs in it
10:14 koomi log perhaps?
10:14 dokma so I'm trying to fix that
10:14 dokma typo3 log?
10:14 dokma I'm on a shared server
10:22 titii helo
10:23 titii can i somehow make a link by ID in TS? for autogenerate simulateStaticDocuments. thanks
10:24 andreas_ Hi. I have installed typo3-dummy on my Debian box and when i go to localhost it says "It works!" but how do I start using typo3???
10:22 titii helo
10:23 titii can i somehow make a link by ID in TS? for autogenerate simulateStaticDocuments. thanks
10:24 andreas_ Hi. I have installed typo3-dummy on my Debian box and when i go to localhost it says "It works!" but how do I start using typo3???
10:51 uschi_ dokma, there is some special db_debug
10:51 uschi_ found out because i created an sql error
10:52 andreasbalzer uschi: seems like you have a few munutes time?
10:52 dokma I managed to fix the problem uschi
10:52 uschi_ k
10:52 dokma but thank you for the future
10:52 uschi_ not really andreasbalzer
10:52 andreasbalzer :-/
10:53 uschi_ no more brainhopping
10:54 uschi_ going to write my first own extension
10:51 uschi_ dokma, there is some special db_debug
10:51 uschi_ found out because i created an sql error
10:52 andreasbalzer uschi: seems like you have a few munutes time?
10:52 dokma I managed to fix the problem uschi
10:52 uschi_ k
10:52 dokma but thank you for the future
10:52 uschi_ not really andreasbalzer
10:52 andreasbalzer :-/
10:53 uschi_ no more brainhopping
10:54 uschi_ going to write my first own extension
11:17 d|g hi all
11:17 d|g hi all
11:20 uschi_ hi d|g
11:20 uschi_ bad news for you
11:21 uschi_ the menu will not work if you use FCEs that themselves contain Content Elements
11:21 uschi_ So now i am to write an extension
11:24 d|g uschi hi
11:20 uschi_ hi d|g
11:20 uschi_ bad news for you
11:21 uschi_ the menu will not work if you use FCEs that themselves contain Content Elements
11:21 uschi_ So now i am to write an extension
11:24 d|g uschi hi
11:30 d|g uschi when you take a rest? ;) today is sunday? isn't it? =)
11:31 uschi_ yeah, i know, but i am on my own
11:31 uschi_ you are here as well my dear
11:32 uschi hi Boonkerz
11:32 d|g uschi yes =) you are right =))
11:32 uschi you know, what the problem with those menus is in tv?
11:34 uschi that you can not find out, which elements are actually used on a page
11:34 uschi by a simple sql query
11:30 d|g uschi when you take a rest? ;) today is sunday? isn't it? =)
11:31 uschi_ yeah, i know, but i am on my own
11:31 uschi_ you are here as well my dear
11:32 uschi hi Boonkerz
11:32 d|g uschi yes =) you are right =))
11:32 uschi you know, what the problem with those menus is in tv?
11:34 uschi that you can not find out, which elements are actually used on a page
11:34 uschi by a simple sql query
11:35 uschi because the deleted flag in tv gets not set when you 'delete' an element from a page
11:37 d|g i use my select for special contet only... and didn't have problem with it yet
11:37 d|g content
11:35 uschi because the deleted flag in tv gets not set when you 'delete' an element from a page
11:37 d|g i use my select for special contet only... and didn't have problem with it yet
11:37 d|g content
11:45 titii i need more columns in elements content, it is possible?
11:46 titii otherwise helo uschi and d|g :)
11:46 titii hi everybody :)
11:46 uschi hi titii :)
11:46 titii the default is border, left, main and right
11:46 uschi i know
11:46 titii it is possible to add a next col?
11:46 uschi this why i am using TV :))
11:47 d|g titii hi =)
11:47 titii TV? but i dont wanna using TV, i dont know why.. maybe isnt there the right time for that i like it without :)
11:48 d|g titii yes... TV help you =)
11:48 titii heh
11:48 titii is it possible to do that without?
11:48 uschi i do not know
11:49 titii ou
11:49 titii i hope is there a solution also without TV, no?
11:49 uschi ask google :)
11:45 titii i need more columns in elements content, it is possible?
11:46 titii otherwise helo uschi and d|g :)
11:46 titii hi everybody :)
11:46 uschi hi titii :)
11:46 titii the default is border, left, main and right
11:46 uschi i know
11:46 titii it is possible to add a next col?
11:46 uschi this why i am using TV :))
11:47 d|g titii hi =)
11:47 titii TV? but i dont wanna using TV, i dont know why.. maybe isnt there the right time for that i like it without :)
11:48 d|g titii yes... TV help you =)
11:48 titii heh
11:48 titii is it possible to do that without?
11:48 uschi i do not know
11:49 titii ou
11:49 titii i hope is there a solution also without TV, no?
11:49 uschi ask google :)
11:50 titii opk i try :) and another question is possible to rename the column names in BE?
11:50 uschi i am sure it is :)
11:50 uschi but do not ask me how :)
11:50 d|g titii, start read FTB... and your will more goggleeyed =)
11:52 titii what is FTB?
11:52 titii thank you ushi :)
11:53 d|g titii http://typo3.org/documentation/document-library/tutorials/doc_tut_ftb1/1.0.1/view/
11:50 titii opk i try :) and another question is possible to rename the column names in BE?
11:50 uschi i am sure it is :)
11:50 uschi but do not ask me how :)
11:50 d|g titii, start read FTB... and your will more goggleeyed =)
11:52 titii what is FTB?
11:52 titii thank you ushi :)
11:53 d|g titii http://typo3.org/documentation/document-library/tutorials/doc_tut_ftb1/1.0.1/view/
11:55 titii d|g but i would like to didnt use TV
11:58 d|g titii ok... no more advertising on the channel =)
11:59 titii d|g aaah ok :) so i have to do that with 4 cols, maybe its ok, i will see
11:59 titii but what is the real advantages of TV?
11:59 uschi 1) you are not stuck to columns
11:55 titii d|g but i would like to didnt use TV
11:58 d|g titii ok... no more advertising on the channel =)
11:59 titii d|g aaah ok :) so i have to do that with 4 cols, maybe its ok, i will see
11:59 titii but what is the real advantages of TV?
11:59 uschi 1) you are not stuck to columns
12:00 titii :)
12:00 uschi 2) You can have Flexible Content Elements that again can contain Content Elements (this is the really important thing)
12:01 titii 2) hmmm i have no idea how it works cause i never saw it
12:01 d|g titii, 2.1) You can have new type of Content Elements without extention programming
12:01 uschi lets say, inside your content container you would like to enable your editors to have a 2col layout
12:02 titii but the interesting thing is, i am not using TV about year and no problem
12:02 uschi you simply write an html file, map it, and there you are!
12:02 uschi you have a new content element :)
12:03 uschi works like a charm
12:03 af_ uschi, that's with template volia?
12:03 uschi yes
12:03 af_ uhm, it sounds good
12:04 uschi it IS good
12:04 af_ but the html is a template?
12:04 uschi no, simple html file
12:04 af_ I mean you should follow some rules to write it
12:04 af_ like id or class
12:04 af_ in the css
12:04 uschi well you have to write your css yourself, right?
12:00 titii :)
12:00 uschi 2) You can have Flexible Content Elements that again can contain Content Elements (this is the really important thing)
12:01 titii 2) hmmm i have no idea how it works cause i never saw it
12:01 d|g titii, 2.1) You can have new type of Content Elements without extention programming
12:01 uschi lets say, inside your content container you would like to enable your editors to have a 2col layout
12:02 titii but the interesting thing is, i am not using TV about year and no problem
12:02 uschi you simply write an html file, map it, and there you are!
12:02 uschi you have a new content element :)
12:03 uschi works like a charm
12:03 af_ uschi, that's with template volia?
12:03 uschi yes
12:03 af_ uhm, it sounds good
12:04 uschi it IS good
12:04 af_ but the html is a template?
12:04 uschi no, simple html file
12:04 af_ I mean you should follow some rules to write it
12:04 af_ like id or class
12:04 af_ in the css
12:04 uschi well you have to write your css yourself, right?
12:05 af_ oh ok apart you mean
12:05 titii i had a feels the TV is just for lamers, who cant write TS and TSconfig, isnt is true? with TS you can do essentially more?
12:05 uschi no, it can be included
12:05 titii sorry with TV you can.,.
12:05 uschi no, because you cannot have nested CEs the normal way
12:06 uschi and you can map an html element to a ts object path
12:06 uschi you can do both, titii
12:06 uschi i am not exactly a lamer in terms of TS anymore, titii
12:07 titii i know uschi i just want to know, is the TV really neccesarry for some stuff
12:08 uschi the one thing that you cannot have without TV are those nested elements
12:08 uschi so and now i shall start to code some php for a change
12:05 af_ oh ok apart you mean
12:05 titii i had a feels the TV is just for lamers, who cant write TS and TSconfig, isnt is true? with TS you can do essentially more?
12:05 uschi no, it can be included
12:05 titii sorry with TV you can.,.
12:05 uschi no, because you cannot have nested CEs the normal way
12:06 uschi and you can map an html element to a ts object path
12:06 uschi you can do both, titii
12:06 uschi i am not exactly a lamer in terms of TS anymore, titii
12:07 titii i know uschi i just want to know, is the TV really neccesarry for some stuff
12:08 uschi the one thing that you cannot have without TV are those nested elements
12:08 uschi so and now i shall start to code some php for a change
12:10 titii hmmm am not in exactly with, but i look at it later, now i got a go, thanks ... bye :)
12:10 titii hmmm am not in exactly with, but i look at it later, now i got a go, thanks ... bye :)
13:03 dokma anyone know why did Kasper a 'single quotes everywhere' in the coding guidelines ?
13:04 uschi because this way the php parser will not try to find variables inside a string
13:03 dokma anyone know why did Kasper a 'single quotes everywhere' in the coding guidelines ?
13:04 uschi because this way the php parser will not try to find variables inside a string
13:05 uschi if you use double quotes he will look for $somevar
13:09 dokma what if I want it to search for $somevar
13:09 dokma must I do 'bla' . $var . 'another bla'
13:05 uschi if you use double quotes he will look for $somevar
13:09 dokma what if I want it to search for $somevar
13:09 dokma must I do 'bla' . $var . 'another bla'
13:10 dokma or is it allowed to do "bla $var another bla" ?
13:10 dokma or is it allowed to do "bla $var another bla" ?
14:23 ries dokma: both are almost as fast... it was try that single quotes are faster then double quotes
14:23 ries dokma: both are almost as fast... it was try that single quotes are faster then double quotes
14:25 ries But since most people of accelerators installed that time difference is minimal, and it's better to concentrate on good readable code, aand optimized code then worry about single and double quotes
14:25 ries I also doubt that 'text' .$var . 'text' is faster then "text {$var} text"
14:29 dokma my point exactly
14:25 ries But since most people of accelerators installed that time difference is minimal, and it's better to concentrate on good readable code, aand optimized code then worry about single and double quotes
14:25 ries I also doubt that 'text' .$var . 'text' is faster then "text {$var} text"
14:29 dokma my point exactly
14:30 dokma single quotes are wanted when there is no reason to parse the string
14:30 dokma but in all other cases it is to say the least foolish to ban double quotes
14:30 dokma I find "bla {$var} another bla" to be much more readable than 'bla ' . $var . ' another bla'
14:30 dokma single quotes are wanted when there is no reason to parse the string
14:30 dokma but in all other cases it is to say the least foolish to ban double quotes
14:30 dokma I find "bla {$var} another bla" to be much more readable than 'bla ' . $var . ' another bla'
14:42 andreasbalzer uschi: assuming you don't have time.. but i'd like to know... what kind of extension are you coding?
14:42 andreasbalzer uschi: assuming you don't have time.. but i'd like to know... what kind of extension are you coding?
16:01 andreas_ Can someone please help me set up Typo3 on Debian?
16:02 andreas_ Are anyone here?
16:01 andreas_ Can someone please help me set up Typo3 on Debian?
16:02 andreas_ Are anyone here?
16:14 uschi andreasbalzer, tv-stuff, fixing menu things
16:14 uschi andreasbalzer, tv-stuff, fixing menu things
16:15 andreasbalzer it wasn't me
16:15 andreasbalzer or do you mean @16:50?
16:15 uschi yes
16:15 andreasbalzer ah ok ;)
16:16 andreasbalzer would be nice if you drop a comment as soon as you have a little bit time..
16:15 andreasbalzer it wasn't me
16:15 andreasbalzer or do you mean @16:50?
16:15 uschi yes
16:15 andreasbalzer ah ok ;)
16:16 andreasbalzer would be nice if you drop a comment as soon as you have a little bit time..
17:14 dokma ethical question here: I took t3references made by Kasper, fixed a pile of bugs and added a few features of mine, changed the output some. Now I'm wondering what is more ethical #1 ask for permission to maintain t3references (I am not sure I will support current features of t3references in the future) or #2 register another ext keyword and declare me as an author of the ext based on the...
17:14 dokma ...previous work by Kasper. What would you ppl do?
17:14 dokma ethical question here: I took t3references made by Kasper, fixed a pile of bugs and added a few features of mine, changed the output some. Now I'm wondering what is more ethical #1 ask for permission to maintain t3references (I am not sure I will support current features of t3references in the future) or #2 register another ext keyword and declare me as an author of the ext based on the...
17:14 dokma ...previous work by Kasper. What would you ppl do?
17:39 uschi the second one, if you are not sure that you will be able to maintain the ext
17:39 uschi the second one, if you are not sure that you will be able to maintain the ext
18:00 Olegs hi all
18:00 Olegs can I generate thumbnails directly from typoscript?
18:00 Olegs hi all
18:00 Olegs can I generate thumbnails directly from typoscript?
18:58 isolysis does anyone know what extension/plugin that typo3 is using for their manuals and documentation? i.e. http://typo3.org/documentation/document-library/extension-manuals/a1_teasermenu/0.1.0/view/toc/0/
18:58 isolysis i am looking for an FAQ solution
18:58 isolysis the extension IRFaq is dependent on older version of typo3
18:59 isolysis is there any alternatives
18:58 isolysis does anyone know what extension/plugin that typo3 is using for their manuals and documentation? i.e. http://typo3.org/documentation/document-library/extension-manuals/a1_teasermenu/0.1.0/view/toc/0/
18:58 isolysis i am looking for an FAQ solution
18:58 isolysis the extension IRFaq is dependent on older version of typo3
18:59 isolysis is there any alternatives
19:59 vagy Anyone has experience with Event Database bug of listing the same event record multiple times?
19:59 vagy Anyone has experience with Event Database bug of listing the same event record multiple times?
21:03 abManu Hi all, I can't get a redirection at login to work on typo3 4.1.1 and I think I need help, maybe even paid help - Thanks in advance
21:03 koomi abManu: you want the login box from macmade
21:04 koomi feel free to donate to him :)
21:03 abManu Hi all, I can't get a redirection at login to work on typo3 4.1.1 and I think I need help, maybe even paid help - Thanks in advance
21:03 koomi abManu: you want the login box from macmade
21:04 koomi feel free to donate to him :)
21:05 abManu Ok - I promise I will if it helps - can you be more specific ?
21:06 koomi download the extension: http://typo3.org/extensions/repository/view/loginbox_macmade/0.3.4/
21:06 koomi install and include on the page where you need the login box
21:06 koomi you can set redirect in the plugin config
21:07 koomi http://typo3.org/index.php?eID=tx_cms_showpic&file=typo3temp%2Ftx_terdoc%2Fdocumentscache%2Fl%2Fo%2Floginbox_macmade-0.3.4%2Fdocbook%2Fpictures%2F10000000000002B400000114FC818D32.jpg&width=1024m&height=800&bodyTag=%3Cbody%20style%3D%22margin%3A%200%3B%20background%3A%20%23FFFFFF%3B%22%3E&wrap=%3Ca%20href%3D%22javascript%3Aclose%28%29%3B%22%3E%20%7C%20%3C%2Fa%3E&md5=a1f213e129190408bf2a5e712e79783b
21:07 koomi iiek
21:07 koomi http://typo3.org/documentation/document-library/extension-manuals/loginbox_macmade/0.3.4/view/1/2/
21:07 abManu Thanks koomi - sounds good - I'll check it now.
21:07 koomi good luck
21:07 koomi i'm off to bed.
21:08 abManu Good night.
21:05 abManu Ok - I promise I will if it helps - can you be more specific ?
21:06 koomi download the extension: http://typo3.org/extensions/repository/view/loginbox_macmade/0.3.4/
21:06 koomi install and include on the page where you need the login box
21:06 koomi you can set redirect in the plugin config
21:07 koomi http://typo3.org/index.php?eID=tx_cms_showpic&file=typo3temp%2Ftx_terdoc%2Fdocumentscache%2Fl%2Fo%2Floginbox_macmade-0.3.4%2Fdocbook%2Fpictures%2F10000000000002B400000114FC818D32.jpg&width=1024m&height=800&bodyTag=%3Cbody%20style%3D%22margin%3A%200%3B%20background%3A%20%23FFFFFF%3B%22%3E&wrap=%3Ca%20href%3D%22javascript%3Aclose%28%29%3B%22%3E%20%7C%20%3C%2Fa%3E&md5=a1f213e129190408bf2a5e712e79783b
21:07 koomi iiek
21:07 koomi http://typo3.org/documentation/document-library/extension-manuals/loginbox_macmade/0.3.4/view/1/2/
21:07 abManu Thanks koomi - sounds good - I'll check it now.
21:07 koomi good luck
21:07 koomi i'm off to bed.
21:08 abManu Good night.
21:21 abManu Hi again - I can't get a redirect at login to work on TYPO3 4.1.1 with a specific redirection page per group, not per plugin instance (that's why koomi's suggestion: macmade is not suitable). Tried various plugins. Help needed. Thanks in advance.
21:24 koomi abManu: set plugin.tx_loginboxmacmade_pi2.redirectLogin = $pid in a condition
21:24 koomi but seems to work only for the small login box
21:21 abManu Hi again - I can't get a redirect at login to work on TYPO3 4.1.1 with a specific redirection page per group, not per plugin instance (that's why koomi's suggestion: macmade is not suitable). Tried various plugins. Help needed. Thanks in advance.
21:24 koomi abManu: set plugin.tx_loginboxmacmade_pi2.redirectLogin = $pid in a condition
21:24 koomi but seems to work only for the small login box
21:25 koomi uschi: wicked stuff.
21:25 uschi true
21:26 abManu Ok koomi. Thanks again for your help. I'll try to follow your instructions. Go to be now ;-)
21:26 abManu i meant: go to bed now ;-)
21:27 uschi which paradigm am i using when i have in my <meta> element of my page DS <langDisable>0</langDisable> and <langChildren>1</langChildren>
21:27 uschi normally i CAN read
21:28 uschi i can only tell, that in my flex I have vDEF and vEN etc
21:29 uschi and only lDEF, not lEN or so
21:25 koomi uschi: wicked stuff.
21:25 uschi true
21:26 abManu Ok koomi. Thanks again for your help. I'll try to follow your instructions. Go to be now ;-)
21:26 abManu i meant: go to bed now ;-)
21:27 uschi which paradigm am i using when i have in my <meta> element of my page DS <langDisable>0</langDisable> and <langChildren>1</langChildren>
21:27 uschi normally i CAN read
21:28 uschi i can only tell, that in my flex I have vDEF and vEN etc
21:29 uschi and only lDEF, not lEN or so
21:32 koomi i had to pick the one where elements are show even if they are not translated so that my fce container elments work
21:32 koomi but i really need to go to bed now.
21:32 koomi i had to pick the one where elements are show even if they are not translated so that my fce container elments work
21:32 koomi but i really need to go to bed now.
22:42 andreas_ Hi. Anyone here?
22:42 andreas_ Hi. Anyone here?
23:14 uschi yes, but i should go to bed
23:14 uschi where do i find the dbquery stuff? which file?
23:14 uschi found it
23:14 uschi yes, but i should go to bed
23:14 uschi where do i find the dbquery stuff? which file?
23:14 uschi found it
23:15 uschi really too tired, can't read anymore
23:15 uschi really too tired, can't read anymore

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