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10:08 Martin__ hii
10:09 Martin__ i m from germany
10:09 Martin__ somebody here???
10:09 Martin__ halloooo
10:10 Martin__ heyy
10:10 Martin__ can sonmody help me
10:11 Martin__ i m new in typo and ich have a little problem with it
10:11 Martin__ my menu links were shown one after one and not breaked
10:12 Martin__ can anyone help me
10:12 Gnulnulf Martin__: is it a html or css problem or a TS problem?
10:13 Martin__ i dont know i m new
10:13 Martin__ and i ve use an opensource template
10:14 Martin__ how can i find out that it ist a html or css or some else problem
10:14 Gnulnulf The entries are genereated correct when you look at the source of the generated page.
10:14 Martin__ sorry my english is not really good
10:14 Martin__ would you look a minute on my site
10:15 Gnulnulf In my opinion a menu is a simple UL\LI list with a style sheet to get the presentation right
10:15 Gnulnulf ok.
10:15 Martin__ look at mor-afrem.de site
10:17 Martin__ @Gnulnulf what do you think???
10:17 Gnulnulf It;s a list of links. You can look at the linkwrap in your template and add a <br /> to it.
10:18 Martin__ ok i will try it
10:18 Gnulnulf otherwise you need to make a stylesheet option for the a-tags in the menu section.
10:19 Martin__ i will at first try with the html and then i will see the css
10:19 Gnulnulf Martin__: It's mainly a choice of profession... coders wil go for the template code, webdesigners will do it in CSS.
10:19 Martin__ my problem is that i don t check many from this
10:21 Martin__ ok i will come in 5 min back because i have to change my pc
10:21 Gnulnulf Martin__: I need to go now. There are quite a few examples on menus in typo3.
10:21 Martin__ thank you first
10:21 Martin__ for your help
10:21 Gnulnulf see http://appeltaart.mine.nu/typo3.html for my menu example. maybe you can rip the template code
10:22 Martin__ thank you i will come back in 5 min
10:23 Denyerec Mornin
11:08 ES hiii
11:08 ES somebody from germany here
11:08 ES halloo
11:08 ES i need little bit help
11:08 ES in typo 3
11:11 ES hallo
11:12 ES is anybody here??
11:20 ES hejjj
11:21 ES whats up here
11:21 Denyerec Well
11:21 Denyerec It's a Sunday
11:21 ES is here anybody who can help me ??
11:21 Denyerec and most of us don't work Sunday.
11:21 Denyerec Annnnnnnd you've not said what you need help with yet :)
11:21 ES yeah i think that nobody is here
11:22 ES although there are many people loggeg on
11:22 ES can you help me
11:22 ES i have a question in typo 3
11:22 ES my problem is , that i ve an opensouce template and the menu is not shown as a list
11:23 ES thats my problem
11:23 ES its shown as one point after one like a phrase
11:23 ES one here has told me that i have to change the html or the css with a </br>
11:24 ES but i dont know where i have to set the <break>
11:24 ES please
11:24 Denyerec Err
11:24 ES when you can spend 5 min for my problem
11:24 Denyerec Do you have anything online I can look at
11:25 ES the site is mor-afrem.de
11:25 ES i m from germany that is why my english is soo bad
11:25 Denyerec Your english is better than mein Deutsche
11:26 ES jaa
11:26 ES lol
11:26 Denyerec Is that an opensource web template you have built into Typo, or an open source Typo template
11:26 ES typo temülate i think
11:26 ES i can give you the site where i ve downloades it
11:26 Denyerec No, please don't.
11:27 Denyerec Free templates kill my business :)
11:27 ES oo okayy i understand
11:27 Denyerec You simply need to add a <br /> to the menu wrap
11:27 ES i m new in typo
11:27 Denyerec you'll be looking in the template TS Setup
11:27 ES and i think its a little bit too difficult
11:28 ES okayy i will look the ts
11:28 Denyerec Well
11:28 Denyerec It is difficult at fisrt
11:28 ES where is it
11:28 Denyerec Hell, who am I kidding, it's always difficult.
11:28 Denyerec But, with that you get great power and flexibility.
11:29 Denyerec And that is something you cannot have with a simple system
11:29 ES jaa i hope because before typo i was underway with joomla
11:29 ES and my joomla was hacked one month before
11:30 ES and anfter this i want to test something new
11:30 ES and typo seems to be good
11:30 ES but it s a little bit difficult
11:30 Denyerec joomla... is that still like Mambo?
11:30 Denyerec As I tried Mambo again just a few days ago to see if it was any good now, and it was still sheisse.
11:30 ES yes
11:31 ES lol
11:31 ES scheisse
11:31 ES genau
11:31 Denyerec ;)
11:31 ES but its simple i think for newbies
11:31 Denyerec Yes
11:31 Denyerec it is simple for noobies
11:31 Denyerec but you quickly outgrow it
11:31 Denyerec And customising it is a pain.
11:31 ES sooo i have found the ts
11:32 ES setup
11:32 Denyerec For example, yesterday I needed a new field on my users table. 5 minutes later, i have it done, and its being used by another extension.
11:32 ES ## Menu [Begin]
11:32 ES lib.mainMenu = HMENU
11:32 ES lib.mainMenu.entryLevel = 0
11:32 Denyerec In Mambo, that would be impossible
11:32 ES lib.mainMenu.wrap = <h4></h4> <!-- ###INHALT_LINKS### Start --> </br> <!-- ###INHALT_LINKS### Stop -->
11:32 Denyerec STOP
11:32 Denyerec HALT
11:32 ES lib.mainMenu.1 = TMENU
11:32 ES lib.mainMenu.1.NO {
11:32 Denyerec ACHTUNG
11:32 ES allWrap =
11:32 ES }
11:32 Denyerec STOP
11:32 ES ## Menu [End]
11:32 ES config.spamProtectEmailAddresses = 1
11:32 ES page = PAGE
11:32 ES page.typeNum = 0
11:32 Denyerec Omg
11:32 Denyerec Jee
11:32 ES page.10 = USER
11:32 ES page.10.userFunc = tx_templavoila_pi1->main_page
11:32 Denyerec STOP STOP STOP
11:32 Denyerec HALT
11:32 Denyerec GESTOPPEN
11:33 ES what is???
11:33 Denyerec ES, if you need to show someone sourcecode, then please use this: http://phpfi.com/
11:33 ES what is this
11:33 Denyerec That way, you can paste in a single URL, which links to easy to read code.
11:33 Denyerec you put your code in it and it generates a URL to a temporary code view
11:34 ES http://phpfi.com/240662
11:34 ES sooo???
11:34 Denyerec There we go :)
11:35 Denyerec http://phpfi.com/240663
11:35 Denyerec See line 7
11:35 ES ahaa
11:35 ES okay
11:35 ES thank you very much
11:35 ES i will try it
11:36 Denyerec The pipe | represents "the rest of the thing you are wrapping"
11:36 Denyerec and the .wrap parameter therefore lets you wrap your item (In this case links) in more markup
11:36 Denyerec so if you did this:
11:36 Denyerec .wrap = <strong> | </strong><br />
11:36 Denyerec it would wrap your links in strong tags
11:37 ES yes
11:37 ES fett
11:37 ES thank you very very much
11:38 ES hej i have also one fun question
11:39 ES when i want to change the menu more like a gif behind the menu item when i roll over with the mouse where i have to made this
11:39 ES in the css or in the setup ts
11:42 ES helloo???
11:49 andreasbalzer someone here who has knowledge about HMENU's in connection with hidden pages & subpages of them?
11:50 null0_ ES: depends. you can do that in TS, or with css. Thats your choice
11:50 null0_ but i guess you want to do that with css. more easiyl
11:51 ES css
11:51 ES when ive done it in the css
11:51 kafka hello! Typo3 is a free CMS, so I can use it to create webpages for my customers and make them pay for the work I do (installing, designing, programming additional things) ??
11:51 ES do i have after this to change something in the ts setup
11:52 andreasbalzer kafka: right
11:52 null0_ google for RO and before image
11:52 kafka thanks
11:52 andreasbalzer kafka: how much knowledge do you have about TYPO3?
11:52 null0_ i have to go.. bbl
11:53 null0_ hehe
11:53 null0_ lol
11:53 andreasbalzer because TYPO3 is not a CMS you can learn in a few weeks..
11:53 null0_ i just thought the same... start with a 50¤ webpage....
11:53 andreasbalzer ;)
11:54 kafka i've never before seen a TYPO3 page i think... is it duty to put the name of the TYPo3 CMS at the bottom of the page? Or can i put the information in the impressum only or nowhere? just in case the customer does not want it to be there.. can i still use typo3?
11:54 andreasbalzer you don't have to mention that you use TYPO3 on your pages at all
11:54 kafka andreasbalzer: i never handled with typo3 before.. i have been programming my websites in php on my own for years now but with a cms i think i am faster when i dont have to start from the beginning all the time
11:55 andreasbalzer only the comments in the source should stay intact if possible
11:55 andreasbalzer and you are not allowed to rebrand the CMS
11:55 kafka yeah that is no problem
11:55 kafka okay, then i found what i ve been looking for :)
11:55 andreasbalzer kafka: it normally takes about 3 years, until you know enough of TYPO3 to create a professional webpage
11:56 andreasbalzer i mean with boards, news, ...
11:56 andreasbalzer 3,5 for own extensions...
11:56 andreasbalzer and TYPO3 is no ready-to-go thing..
11:57 andreasbalzer without the knowledge you'll soon get desperated ;)
11:57 kafka ok why is it that hard? i mean my php knowledge is very good. do i have to learn something for typo3?
11:57 andreasbalzer you have to learn about how to configure TYPO3
11:57 andreasbalzer you have to learn TYPOScript
11:58 kafka do i have to use that for extensions?
11:58 andreasbalzer you have to learn what you have to do in your BE in orde to archieve something..
11:58 andreasbalzer you don't only have to use that in your extensions you'll code, you have to use it for creating templates
11:59 andreasbalzer and if you want to use templavoila - the more or less new way to create templates within T3 - you might want to read something about XML too
12:00 kafka hm then do you think i would further on be better of with creating my webpages on my own with PHP,mysql etc. from the beginning? 3 years is a lot of time
12:01 andreasbalzer no
12:01 andreasbalzer but you might consider going to your bookstore and buy a good T3 book
12:01 kafka ok
12:01 andreasbalzer read it, go to the mailinglists, read them.
12:01 andreasbalzer if you're fast you went through within some weeks.
12:02 kafka and if you are really in to Typo3, how much time do you save ? how long do you need for a standard page?
12:02 andreasbalzer I am able to create a standard page (with old template T3 system) within less than a day
12:03 kafka you dont know a good german T3 book?^^
12:03 andreasbalzer with some practice you are able to create pages within minutes at the end, but then you're really good
12:03 andreasbalzer yeah
12:03 andreasbalzer but it's quite old
12:03 andreasbalzer so you better don't buy it
12:03 kafka ok:) thanks for your information
12:04 andreasbalzer open source press Verlag von Altmann, Fritz, Hinderink
12:04 andreasbalzer Titel: TYPO3 Enterprise Content Management
12:04 kafka thanks
12:04 andreasbalzer i'm afk for 20 minutes
12:04 ES ej kann jemand von euch dutsch
12:04 ES deutsch
12:05 kafka ja ich aber ich hab bisjetzt noch keine ahnung von typo3, bin jetzt erst darauf gestoßen
12:05 ES scheisse ich auch
12:05 kafka ^^
12:06 ES und hier ist ja ned wirklich die hölle los
12:07 ries ES: English please
12:07 ES jooo
12:07 ES also
12:07 ES can you help me
12:07 ES ??
12:07 ES in typo2
12:07 ES 3
12:08 ES or are you also an newbie
12:08 ries I am not a newbie.... so most people here
12:08 ries Just ask your question... and somebody might beable to help you
12:09 ES ok
12:09 ES before i ve used joomla (mambo) and now i want to learn in typo soo my problem how can i wrap a foremade page for example an guestbook
12:10 ES soo
12:10 ES i want to make a menu link
12:10 ES for example "Guestbook"
12:10 ES an there i want to make an guestbook
12:11 ES simple question difficult to realise it
12:12 ES now
12:12 ES can somebody help
12:15 ries why don't you create a page and a hmenu?
12:15 ries then with teh hmenu typo3 will create a menu entry for each page
12:16 ES jaa you say it soo simple but i m new in typo
12:16 ES thats my problem
12:21 ES hej another question :: how can i let typo open a menu in a new page??
12:22 ries ES: check HMENU (or TMNENU) for these settings
12:23 ES do you know a good e book for this to learn
12:24 ES i dont understand anything in the hmenu or the ts
12:28 ries ES: I nver used a book.... just the TS ref and using google
12:29 ES where can i change the ts
12:29 ES i wont find it at the moment
12:29 ES cant
12:30 ries it's in your template under setup
12:33 ES ok
12:33 ES and now
12:33 ES i check there nothing at first
12:33 ES what is page.10????
12:35 andreasbalzer bb
12:38 ries stupid Joomla users.... cannot even read a manual
12:55 andreasbalzer ries: do you have some minutes time?
12:57 ries andreasbalzer: I am quite buzy at the mom...sorry
12:57 ries unless it's a small question
12:57 andreasbalzer hm.. ok
12:57 andreasbalzer not really
13:20 dokma hi ppl
13:20 dokma anyone knows the solution for this error: Fatal error: Out of memory
13:20 dokma when trying to retrieve the list of extensions
13:23 voidus dokma: increase memory_limit for php
13:23 voidus ?
13:24 dokma I would but the em is spitting out huge enormous numbers
13:24 dokma look at this one:
13:24 dokma (allocated 715390976) (tried to allocate 6029008 bytes)
13:24 dokma 700 MB ?
13:24 dokma who will give me that much?
13:27 ries dokma: that is 70Mb
13:27 ries But still to much
13:27 ries You can use that latest version of typo3... they say they solved the problem with 4.1.1
13:27 dokma 715 390 976
13:28 dokma I see that as 700 MB
13:28 dokma ohh
13:28 dokma I see
13:28 ries hehehe yes you are right
13:28 dokma so the source update might help
13:28 dokma thanks
13:28 dokma will give it a try
13:28 ries weird... I never seen such a high value
13:29 ries dokma: what version of php?
13:30 dokma 5.2.0
13:30 dokma should be a bug
13:31 ries Ooo yeaa 5.2.0 is one big bug release for php
13:31 ries try to use 5.1.x or 5.2.2 (I think )
13:40 Coppershade-org^ I'm going to make a site with a definite layout that I want to create in Dreamweaver - but I want to manage the content in a CMS.
13:40 Coppershade-org^ is typo3 for me? the admin interface looked good
13:42 Coppershade-org^ basically, I want an "inverted U" of 5 panels that should be fixed, but the stuff inside the U should be dynamic and scrollable
13:42 voidus Coppershade-org^: typo3 can do that
13:43 Coppershade-org^ what's important is that it doesn't rebuild the panels around the content
13:44 Coppershade-org^ it should always be onscreen for quick navigation
13:44 Coppershade-org^ like iframes, except the iframes are shit :)
13:44 ries Coppershade-org^: just make sure that dreamweaver is not going to make a site with tables...
13:44 ries typo3 handles tables less designs well
13:44 ries it's just that dreamweaver create shitty code
13:46 Coppershade-org^ yes, I hate DW for that, that's why I'm looking for other solutions
13:46 Coppershade-org^ :)
13:55 Coppershade-org^ hmm, I have Joomla running on my site, does that mean I won't have to ask my host to change anything if I switch to typo3?
13:55 Coppershade-org^ just delete Joomla and install typo3?
14:12 voidus Coppershade-org^: yes
14:16 Coppershade-org^ hmm, when I add content, do I use the 'New Page' wizard? Won't that reload the logo and menu and sidebar?
14:17 Coppershade-org^ how do I make typo3 understand only the content panel should be changed?
14:25 daag select the page and click on "new content" ?
14:27 Coppershade-org^ hmm hang on... made an ugly sketch :)
14:27 Coppershade-org^ http://coppershade.org/pics/Sitelayout3-done.jpg
14:28 daag i see
14:28 Coppershade-org^ what I'm wondering is if only the articles will change when I navigate
14:28 Coppershade-org^ or if it will reload the big logo and gif anim and stuff
14:29 daag the page will be reloaded imho
14:29 daag but the big gif won't
14:29 daag because it should be in the browser cache
14:29 Coppershade-org^ I'd like at least the gif/flash anim to be constantly, calmly spinning while navigating
14:29 Coppershade-org^ well, everything would be in the cache, but redrawing is so ugly imo :)
14:30 daag then you need some kind of ajax i think
14:30 Coppershade-org^ ?
14:30 daag or frames ;)
14:30 daag well if you want to load content
14:30 daag without refreshing the page
14:30 daag tose are the two possible solutions IMHO
14:31 Coppershade-org^ ajax is a module for typo3?
14:31 daag no
14:31 daag its a name for using javascript initiated http-requests
14:31 daag so you can load new content in the background
14:31 Coppershade-org^ aha
14:32 daag and insert it in your html
14:32 daag for example replace a div-content
14:32 Coppershade-org^ but the pages created in typo3 are php/css, right? or...?
14:32 daag yes
14:32 daag the output is html of course :)
14:34 Coppershade-org^ the problem with iframes is that the URL is the same for all articles
14:34 Coppershade-org^ not a problem if the CMS can autoinsert a little icon to get the link
14:34 Coppershade-org^ when I write the articles
14:35 Coppershade-org^ I mean the URL in the URL field in the browser doesn't change :)
14:35 daag ah ok :)
14:35 Coppershade-org^ I do want article URLs to appear in Google etc
14:35 daag same problem with ajax
14:35 Coppershade-org^ so they're found at searches and can be clicked on to go to that exact article directly
14:35 daag because the documentlocation does not change
14:36 daag jep
14:36 daag shoud be possible with link to article
14:37 Coppershade-org^ I wouldn't want to put the articles in a box that search engines can't index ;)
14:37 Coppershade-org^ but still, I'd like the logo and anim to be fixed
14:37 Coppershade-org^ and you should scroll the content, so that you don't have to scroll up to find the menu
14:37 Coppershade-org^ like in all those blog packages :)
14:38 daag you can use scrollable divs maybe
14:39 Coppershade-org^ yeah
14:39 Coppershade-org^ I'm thinking now... do background pictures/patterns reload when you navigate a CMS site?
14:39 daag yes
14:40 Coppershade-org^ then I could put the logo as a background picture and have the CMS site start below it :)
14:40 Coppershade-org^ oh.
14:40 Coppershade-org^ is it easy to create/change layout in typo3, or do you have to wrestle with php/css tags?
14:41 daag you can import templates
14:41 Coppershade-org^ can you say: these divs are THIS fixed size, and this one has fixed width and is scrollable?
14:41 daag mom,tele
14:41 daag yes
14:42 Coppershade-org^ hmm does typo3 like having it's pages edited (manually, I just like it for code editing) in Dreamweaver?
14:43 daag you can edit templates in dreamweaver
14:43 daag look at template voiale tutprial
14:43 daag voila
14:44 Coppershade-org^ voiale?
14:44 Coppershade-org^ template voila tutorial?
14:45 daag http://typo3.org/documentation/document-library/tutorials/doc_tut_templselect/0.1.0/view/
14:45 daag this i think
14:46 daag Part 1: Integration of an HTML template
14:48 Coppershade-org^ the optimum would be if I drew the panels in Photoshop, exported as html with pictures, and copy-pasted functions in divs so that typo3 can work
14:48 daag that should work
14:50 Coppershade-org^ so I could say, "what is normally in the left div on this typo3 template should be in the right div in mine"
14:51 daag yes,look at the tutorial. via typoscript you can say
14:51 daag which element (identified through id) should be replaced with
14:51 Coppershade-org^ but a fast loading, simple template with a fold-out menu could also work I guess -- do you know any good such templates?
14:51 daag which content/template
14:51 daag no
14:52 daag but the default menu is folding
14:52 ries Coppershade-org^: Typo3 is making sure all websites are going to look unique
14:52 ries typo3 doesn't supply templates since it is easy to create your own
14:52 Coppershade-org^ ah!
14:52 Coppershade-org^ sounds good :)
14:53 Coppershade-org^ Oki.
14:53 Coppershade-org^ I will get typo3 and try it
14:53 Coppershade-org^ just delete the Joomla folders on ftp and follow the install text on typo3.com?
14:55 daag thaat should work i think :)
14:55 ries Coppershade-org^: yeaa that would work
14:55 Coppershade-org^ and delete the database.
14:55 Coppershade-org^ :P
14:55 ries you can also install typo3 in a sub directory
15:00 Coppershade-org^ but I have to create a new database for typo3, right?
15:00 Coppershade-org^ and point typo3 to it?
15:00 daag yep
15:00 Coppershade-org^ hmm too many questions.. I'll read the installation procedure and not take all your time :)
15:01 daag ;)
15:03 fabrice Hi all
15:04 fabrice for those who were here when i had questions about converting a database to utf-8, i'va finally solved my problem...
15:04 fabrice ...I just had to add "SET NAMES utf8;" in the SetDBInit variable. I should have read the wiki more carefully :-/
15:05 fabrice I've another question about tipafriend and captcha; anyone around familiar with this ?
15:08 fabrice I guess you're all asleep; well, it's sunday and there is Federer-Nadal on TV, I understand :o)
15:08 fabrice be back later, bye!
16:00 menak h
16:01 menak in my root page ts setup i set "RTE.config.cal < RTE.default" so that the calender extension uses the default RTE config, but it doesn't work, i get the default RTE setup.
16:11 _menak_ hmmm, very instable internet connection atm
16:11 _menak_ ...
16:15 _menak_ so i hope i make to an answer without going offline again...
16:15 _menak_ i've tried "RTE.config.tx_cal_event < RTE.default" and "RTE.config.cal < RTE.default" in order for the calendar extension to use the default RTE setup (default: my RTE setup, works fine in normal content elements), but it doesn't work. The RTE alwasy uses the standard (standard: RTE extension standard) setup.
16:16 _menak_ i hope thats not too confusing :)
16:16 _menak_ any idea of what i'm doing wrong?
17:21 Coppershade-org^ hm.
17:21 Coppershade-org^ tried the tutorial, got stopped right after uploading :)
17:21 Coppershade-org^ "The current username, password or host was not accepted when the connection to the database was attempted to be established!"
17:21 Coppershade-org^ but the tutorial says I should get a 1-2-3 install guide there
17:22 Azrael_- hi
17:22 daag hm
17:22 Azrael_- i just installed typo3 but still the db is empty, how can i initialize it?
17:24 daag Coppershade-org^, can't find anythin with install guide in the tut
17:34 Coppershade-org^ Went through the 1-2-3 guide, failed. Error "Fatal error: Allowed memory size of 8388608 bytes exhausted (tried to allocate 1908 bytes) in /srv/www/web176/html/typo3/t3lib/class.t3lib_install.php on line 652"
17:34 Coppershade-org^ I'm using this tut: http://www.siteground.com/tutorials/typo3/typo3_manual_installation.htm
17:37 Coppershade-org^ btw, I extracted "source with dummy site", then "dummy package" with overwrite.
17:37 Coppershade-org^ as it says on the typo3 download page
17:40 Coppershade-org^ oh
17:40 Coppershade-org^ got it.
17:40 Coppershade-org^ I have to ask the host to raise my memory limit because it goes a couple of bytes over 8MB.
17:40 Coppershade-org^ :(
17:41 Coppershade-org^ can I do that with phpMyAdmin?
17:43 daag no
17:43 daag you have to change it in php.ini
17:44 Coppershade-org^ ? it says I have to contact my host to raise the limit
17:45 daag and they must change the setting in ini-file :)
17:45 Coppershade-org^ I guess host customers don't have access to it?
17:45 daag probably not
17:45 Coppershade-org^ ok, I will call them
17:48 ries Coppershade-org^: you can try and send the maximum memopry usage in the install tool
17:48 ries sometimes that can work
17:53 Coppershade-org^ well install failed when trying to allocate about 8.1 MB. Install tool has a red warning and recommends to tell the host to increase limit to 25MB
17:53 Coppershade-org^ do you mean I could install it even if I have 8MB?
17:57 daag probably not when you get the error on installation, but i#M not sure. just try :)
17:59 Coppershade-org^ how do I set the max mem usage in the install tool?
18:15 ries Coppershade-org^: there is a option for it for sure
18:15 ries try 48Mb or something
18:19 Phlogi hmm after changing the name of my site (domain) realurl does not generate nice urls any longer
18:24 voidus Phlogi: change config.baseURL
18:24 Phlogi voidus: I did :)
18:24 voidus Phlogi: clear realurl's cache
18:24 Phlogi you know the page works but it does not generate nice urls
18:24 Phlogi voidus: how? =)
18:25 voidus truncate all tx_realurl_* tables in DB or install extension which do that
18:25 voidus check your domain records
18:25 voidus check realurl config
18:27 Azrael_- i just installed typo3 but still the db is empty, how can i initialize it?
18:27 Azrael_- the db-connection and everything else is set up and works
18:29 voidus Azrael_-: tables should be created during installation
18:30 voidus try to re-install
18:39 Azrael_- voidus: i first tried to start with the 1-2-3-installer but it didn't recognize the already prepared database, so i switched to the default-installer and inserted all needed data there. but i dunno how to fill the database with it
18:41 voidus Azrael_-: hm.. which data did you insterted?
18:44 Azrael_- in the "database analyzer" is an "import"-option but it only adds 2 tables
18:44 Azrael_- dunno how to add the rest
18:45 voidus Azrael_-: 2 tables? which?
18:46 Azrael_- static_template and static_tsconfig_help
18:51 uschi hi folks
18:56 Coppershade-org^ hellouu
19:01 Azrael_- voidus: any idea for me?
19:03 Coppershade-org^ [19:54] <ries> Coppershade-org^: you can try and send the maximum memopry usage in the install tool <-- if you know the keyword I could search for the file to edit
19:03 Coppershade-org^ didn't find much just exploring the folders
19:03 Coppershade-org^ :)
19:05 ries Coppershade-org^: search for mem
19:08 Coppershade-org^ only found one php, with a setting memcache=1, then a few .js and .htm files
19:09 Coppershade-org^ but now something else is wrong, because I tried to start the install tool again - hoping my host had increased the limit - but only get a list of error messages
19:09 Coppershade-org^ hm, not errors, warnings.
19:10 Coppershade-org^ well, warnings referring to errors on line bla bla in file bla bla :)
19:11 Coppershade-org^ also asks for a login, tried the login for the MySQL user, didn't work
19:52 Coppershade-org^ how do I start the installation over? just upload the install dir?
19:58 ries the install tool check localconf.php (I think)
19:58 ries I never had to install twice
19:59 Coppershade-org^ just upload an untouched localconf.php?
20:01 ries yeaa that might work
20:01 ries make sure you close the browser to
20:01 ries since I remember it does something with sessions
20:05 Coppershade-org^ yep, that seemed to work
20:05 Coppershade-org^ I also deleted the cached files as per the instructions
20:07 Coppershade-org^ host hasn't increased the memory... argh
20:19 ries Coppershade-org^: what version of typo3?
20:19 ries Coppershade-org^: under all configuration search for setMemoryLimit
20:21 Coppershade-org^ latest stable, 4.1.1
20:22 Coppershade-org^ didn't find that text
20:22 Coppershade-org^ remember it's the installer that wants 8.3 MB
20:22 Coppershade-org^ you guys know an FTP program that can extract archives ON the server?
20:23 Coppershade-org^ it takes like an hour to transfer 10000 5-kb files :)
20:23 ries teh control panel cannot handle that?
20:24 Coppershade-org^ no extract function in the WebFTP, no
20:24 Coppershade-org^ otherwise I would have done it there ;)
20:31 ir3 Coppershade: if you want shell access to extract an archive and copy files, just install one of those php shell scripts by ftp, it has worked in some cases for me. Just delete the shell script when you're done.
20:31 ir3 hoping your on a *nix server
20:31 Coppershade-org^ mm
20:32 ir3 then you tar -zxvf your archive at the right place and chmod it (if you have rights for it)
20:34 Coppershade-org^ where to get the script, and how to use it?
20:35 Coppershade-org^ this one? http://www.hping.org/phpinteractive/
20:37 ir3 not at all
20:39 Coppershade-org^ no, that was some editor
20:39 Coppershade-org^ I expected a command line :)
20:39 ir3 http://www.hotscripts.com/Detailed/63051.html
20:39 ir3 there for example
20:39 ir3 these shell scripts are unsafe though for your server, so make sure you delete it afterwards
20:39 ir3 ok ?
20:40 Coppershade-org^ yes, unless I PW protect its folder
20:40 Coppershade-org^ :)
20:40 ir3 anyway usually ppl that host the server don't like them
20:40 Coppershade-org^ right
20:40 ir3 well, perhaps but you don't need it to be on the server anyway
20:41 ir3 there is a typo3 ext that could probably get to untaring ...quixplorer, but I dont think it does it yet
20:41 ir3 oh yes it does!
20:41 ir3 but never tried it
20:42 Coppershade-org^ I need typo3 installed for that ;)
20:43 ir3 oh yeah right
20:44 Coppershade-org^ what do you think of net2ftp?
20:44 ir3 no idea what that is
20:44 Coppershade-org^ (don't worry, I'm not going to enter my FTP details on that web version ;))
20:45 ir3 if it can extract archives, why not
20:45 ir3 as I said, just don't leave it there
21:43 Coppershade-org^ hmm, how do I see which PHP version is installed?
21:43 Coppershade-org^ can't find version in host admin interface...
21:54 yakoi phpinfo();
21:54 voidus Coppershade-org^: in the install tool, phpincof
21:54 voidus *phpinfo
21:55 [1]Co2 Hi voidus. Is there a bug in 4.0.2 where you can't see "Template" Module even if you're admin?
21:56 yakoi Co2 : why don't you upgrade to 4.0.6 anyway ?
21:56 voidus hm.. no, i didn't hear about such a bug
21:56 [1]Co2 because it's notmy server
21:56 yakoi then bug the sysadmin ;)
21:57 [1]Co2 yakoi yeah you're right. I gues there is missing template module as extension.
21:57 [1]Co2 I wonder what he has done :-/
21:58 [1]Co2 he deinstalled the template modules ^^
21:58 [1]Co2 I found it in "Install Extensions" Ext manager
21:58 Coppershade-org^ thanks yakoi, voidus, found it :)
21:59 Coppershade-org^ and mysql version ? :)
21:59 yakoi Coppershade-org^: found what ?
21:59 Coppershade-org^ phpinfo
22:00 yakoi phpinfo()'s just a php function that gives you php config details.
22:00 Coppershade-org^ yes, I know, made a .php file :)
23:35 dokma anyone still awake?
23:35 dokma my sr_feuser_register does not send emails
23:36 dokma anyone had this problem?
23:44 Denyerec Hey Ries are you there ?
23:44 ries I am but buy
23:45 Denyerec Just a quick Q
23:45 Denyerec if I add a field to the fe_users table
23:45 Denyerec is there a way to make it "hidden" so only admins can edit it ?
23:46 ries Denyerec: there is a option for it in the kickstarter
23:46 ries I forgot the name....
23:46 ries But it allwes you to make it visable or hidden using page config settings
23:47 bedlamhotel ries & denyerec: something like "make exclude field"
23:47 ries yeaa indeed
23:47 ries I don't use the kickstarter that much...
23:57 Denyerec If you pass a COA into a text object
23:57 Denyerec does it serialise it ?
23:58 bedlamhotel Denyerec: if you pass a COA to a TEXT cObject, your TEXT object's output is going to be (literally) 'COA'...

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