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00:36 crazybug ries:thx..the prob is I click ext manager and I can see it listed under "backend modules"..but that's all..how can I use it?
00:37 crazybug oh..wait..I see it listed under "Tools" manual
00:37 crazybug lol..
00:37 crazybug cool thx
00:39 crazybug Hum..but when I click on it under "Tools" manual, I got nothing
00:40 crazybug the main frame didn't refresh to show the ExtDevEval UI
00:40 crazybug any clue why this is happening?
00:42 crazybug ok..re-login solved the prob
00:42 crazybug thx ries!
00:51 ries crazybug: yeaa that is what I said.. re-login (did I say that???)
04:00 d|g hi all
06:17 snowgirl how can i parse the content of styles.content.get through a userfunc before printing?
06:35 smeringe I've med some mods on an extension that I e-mailed the author, but got no response. should I try again for his opinion/update of ext, or publish it as a separate ext? (I'd rather not i think..). maybe just keep it for my self :)
06:35 just2b_ smeringe depends on how many changes
06:36 smeringe more or less rewrite..
06:36 smeringe the T3 part was quite simple though.
06:36 smeringe in original I mean
06:37 just2b_ so make a new extension out of it if the author doesn't response
06:38 smeringe k. I'll try to contact him again first
06:39 snowgirl just2b how can i parse the content of styles.content.get through a userfunc before printing?
06:39 just2b_ depends what you want to do
06:39 just2b_ e.g. just modify links?
06:39 snowgirl modify / delete links
06:41 just2b_ tt_content.text.20.parseFunc.tags.link.typolink.userFunc
06:42 just2b_ take a look at dh_linklayout
06:42 just2b_ if you also want to delete the link and want to modify the linktext, you need to hack the core if you use this userfunc
06:43 Layna Good Morning :). Anotrher Day, another question.... just2b: I got the rootline.thing now, though ^^
06:44 Layna Was as expected.. in credibly easy once you know it ^^
06:44 just2b_ hehe ;)
06:44 just2b_ so trying is still the best, right?
06:45 Layna Well, it STILL took me an hour to wrap ym mind aroudn thsoe negative numbers.... dobnÄT ask me why, NOW it seems simple ;)
06:47 Layna But now I am stuck with having more than just one language.... the language is set via URL.... the URL is right.. unfortunately, the language is not set by it. The language settign shoudl (intheory) eb happenihn accordign to the URL.. and Vai TS, NOT via the PHP-menu. right?
06:48 just2b_ sry afk
06:49 Layna No üproblem.. someone else here should know as well, I hope ^^
06:49 Layna Actually.. it woudl help if I hat my uid's set right...
06:52 snowgirl just2b isn't it possible to use the result of my own userfunc ? e.g. with includeLibs.irgendwas =
06:52 snowgirl media/scripts/example_callfunction.php
06:52 Layna Pity, still doesn'Ät work..
06:54 just2b_ snowgirl.. if you use the userfunc i told?
06:54 just2b_ layna, you need a conditoion
06:54 just2b_ condition... writing is hard
06:56 Layna I know just HOW hard... and I used the TS from this place:
06:56 Layna http://www.c-dev.ch/kaepten/typo3/tutorial_1_sprachen.html
06:56 just2b_ take this
06:56 just2b_ [globalString = IENV:HTTP_HOST=austroreal.de] || [globalString = IENV:HTTP_HOST=www.austroreal.de]
06:57 specialunderwear Can somebody tell my how to change this code so it opens a popup window 800x600. And also how I can make it download an image file directly without displaying it in the browser
06:57 specialunderwear http://phpfi.com/241866
06:58 just2b_ specialunderwear take a look at tsref > typolink.. it is explained there
06:58 just2b_ to make it download > no chance this way
06:58 floxx morning!
06:59 specialunderwear yeah i tried but i can't figure it out. Do i have to add stuff to stdWrap.typolink.parameter ?
06:59 just2b_ imo yes
06:59 just2b_ hi floxx
07:01 Layna [globalVar = GP:L = 2] ... that looks liek a condition to me... why gp.. the tutorial didnÄ't explain why.. they all just tell you what to do, without any why...
07:01 Layna but I expect GP meand "Get paramnater"..
07:02 just2b_ it checks the L=x
07:02 specialunderwear just2b_: if i add this line: stdWrap.typolink.parameter.Target=800x600 nothing happens, where should i put the size declaration?
07:02 Layna Ok, then the check is right.... as far as I can see it.
07:03 Layna config.sys_language_uid = 2 That's the uid if my "english" website-language
07:04 Layna config.language = en ehat exactly that one does, I am not sure yet.
07:05 just2b_ this is e.g. for all language-things, in extensions
07:05 Layna config.locale_all = english same here.. but as far as I can gollow, none of this shoudl inetresere with sys_langage.. right?
07:05 Layna and I cannot type while problem-analysing..
07:08 just2b_ sorry what is the exact problem? no translation shown?
07:09 Layna Exactly, and the link doe snot switch to "german" either.
07:09 Layna As far as I can see it, except for the "L=2" in the URL NOTHIGN is happening
07:11 just2b_ post somewhere your ts
07:13 Layna http://www.new-trekcommand.de/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=2273&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=&vc=#Post2273
07:14 just2b_ no the whole
07:14 just2b_ ^^
07:14 Layna oki.. and enver midn the comments, I copy those withotu chasnging ^^
07:15 Layna ok, it's full now
07:15 Layna no, this is NOT anythign online, it's my "playgroubnd" ;)
07:16 Layna That is, nothign officially onlien... you get my drift
07:16 just2b_ i guess a } is missing if I count correct
07:17 just2b_ 7:6 is not good for following code ;)
07:17 Layna *counts, too... throws self off rock... luckily, can fly and comes back up*
07:19 Layna Things are happening!!!! *jumps up and down and hugs just2b*
07:20 just2b_ hehe ;)
07:21 just2b_ so always use the line feed ;)
07:21 specialunderwear Hi this is what i came up with to open a popup window, but it doesn't work. Can anyone tell me what's wrong? http://phpfi.com/241868
07:21 Layna I am spoiled.. in java and php, I use eclipse, wich SHOWS me bracket-troubles ;)
07:22 just2b_ yeah you need to use those lazy eyes in typo3 ;)
07:24 Layna I am used to brain.exe.... but.. EYES? ;)
07:24 just2b_ maybe a small update ;)
07:24 just2b_ and another link ;) > http://www.rggooglemap.com/menu/spende.html
07:27 Layna *grins* Students are fun ^^. But for now, I shall go play again.... I don't trust ANY computer but those set up by me to deal with money-stuff anyway ^^. So, for now, I donate a giant bear-hug :).
08:18 null0_ moin
08:18 just2b_ moin? neallry lunchtime ^^
08:19 specialunderwear Hi it seems that if I try to open a popup from typoscript it only works with fixed page id's. stdWrap.typolink.parameter=45 800x600 actually opens a popup with the specified dimensions. However if I then override the field with a dynamic id as in: stdWrap.typolink.parameter.field=pid the information for the popup window is also lost.
08:19 specialunderwear Any ideas on how I have to input the popup dimension so it still works with a specified field?
08:20 just2b_ could first get the uid into a COA, wrap the 800x600 around and get this into parameter
08:20 specialunderwear a
08:20 specialunderwear thnx
08:25 Phlogi_ today I will focus on timtab :)
08:25 Phlogi_ hello togehter :)
08:32 Phlogi_ can I include timtab on my normal website?
08:37 sirio hi
08:42 Phlogi_ hi sirio
08:45 Fanty Anyway to kill some other sites cookies? :) .. need to nuke a session belonging to another site
08:46 sirio how do i enable FE-users on a site?
08:49 Phlogi_ sirio: create a sysfolder for storing, or what do you want to do?
08:53 sirio as far as i can see i need to read more documentation
08:57 Phlogi_ sirio: yes :)
09:10 Schnitzel Hi. I´m searching for a way to add an url parameter to a shortcut page.. Can anybody help me with that?
09:14 Fanty how do I force typo3 to log in a user without using a password?
09:15 Fanty (the user has been verified by an external login service)
09:19 just2b_ fanty, make a service extension for this
09:19 just2b_ there are already some out there
09:20 Fanty got any names? :)
09:20 just2b_ search for login service
09:20 just2b_ @ repository
09:29 Phlogi_ hi Jigal
09:31 Fanty hmmm not having any luck finding any :/
09:41 Jigal hi Phlogi_, Fanty, Boonkerz, chairuou_work
10:04 sirio where do i start looking for my mistake when i experience the following scenario:
10:04 sirio i created a sysfolder containing a group and a user, which belongs to that group
10:04 sirio i created a login page
10:04 sirio i set the visibility settings of a page to my group
10:05 sirio i go to my login page, login and try to view my page, but i can'
10:05 sirio t
10:30 Phlogi_ sirio: login was successful?
10:32 sirio i actually suspect that it failed - but i don't know how to make sure
10:32 sirio there is no error msg at least
10:33 sirio but there is no err-msg if i type a wrong password, though i am a bit lost
10:34 Phlogi_ hmm are you using normal login box?
10:34 Phlogi_ you might try the newloginbox and read that extension....
10:34 Phlogi_ did you set the storage folder pid in CE?
10:36 sirio storage folder pid?
10:36 sirio where users are stored?
10:36 Phlogi_ exactly
10:36 sirio where can i edit that?
10:37 Phlogi_ use template module and select the site where you have your root template
10:37 Phlogi_ then go to the Constant Editor
10:38 Phlogi_ and select the CONTENT category... then look for PID of user archive
10:44 sirio either i am wrong or it is really strange...
10:44 sirio really enter "Pid of user archive" where only values which are dot-seperated are?
10:47 Coppershade-org^ hey guys
10:47 Phlogi_ sirio: you need to enter the pid of the folder there
10:47 Coppershade-org^ I'm installing typo3 :)
10:47 Phlogi_ Coppershade-org^: nice
10:47 Coppershade-org^ how do I specify under which table in the database typo3 is installed?
10:47 sirio styles.content.loginform.pid = 349 <- like that?
10:47 Coppershade-org^ or does it use some default ?
10:52 Phlogi_ sirio: yes
10:52 sirio Phlogi_: great - that helped
10:52 sirio thank you very much
10:52 Phlogi_ sirio: ah no problem :)
10:54 Coppershade-org^ anyone know the answer to my question above? :)
10:55 timof it uses default tables
10:55 Coppershade-org^ will it conflict with database data in the modx_ table?
10:55 Coppershade-org^ I'm trying that too
10:55 Coppershade-org^ :9
10:55 Phlogi_ Coppershade-org^: typo3 uses more than one table
10:55 Phlogi_ Coppershade-org^: the database you can set in the install tool
10:59 Coppershade-org^ yep, will get back to you when I'm ready to install :)
11:00 Coppershade-org^ btw, when I install both the files typo3_src+dummy and dummy4.1.1, it asks if I want to overwrite
11:00 Coppershade-org^ why? and what do I answer?
11:00 Coppershade-org^ :)
11:02 Coppershade-org^ oh well I will install the typo3_src and then overwrite with the dummy
11:03 Jigal Coppershade-org^: you say you install typo3_src+dummy and then dummy4.1.1, it seems to me that the first one already contains the dummy site; why would you want to install the dummy again? If you want to do that for some reason it needs to overwrite the dummy files that were already installed, so yes to overwrite seems logical...
11:05 Tarilla I would like to have pics (in small size) in a right column, and when the user klicks onto the picture, the picture is shown in the central column. How can I do that? Just a hint would be enought.
11:05 Tarilla enough.
11:07 Coppershade-org^ Jigal, yes, extracting the big .tar.gz should be enough, still installation procedures are to be followed To A Tee, and so the text on the site is misguiding :9 http://typo3.org/download/packages/
11:11 Phlogi_ can I make the included stylesheets of my page printed out directly into the html sourcecode as style? Becuase I think I need that for the newsletter I'm configuring
11:11 Phlogi_ I don't think its a good idea to include external files in a sent html newsletter
11:11 Phlogi_ or does direct mail handle this?
11:13 Tarilla No idea... but you are definitely right about not wantign to send a file with the mail. Actually, I would discourage HTML-Mail....
11:15 Coppershade-org^ hmm, the text is correct for the tarballs, but not for the zips
11:15 Coppershade-org^ now logic has been resurrected :)
11:16 Coppershade-org^ do I have to chmod 777 after untaring?
11:23 Coppershade-org^ hm, unzipped everything, started the install tool, entered password, but it goes directly to step 10, 'About' and I can see nowhere to enter database user/password or a button to start the actual install
11:25 Jigal Phlogi_: html for a newsletter must be carefully set up. Several mailing companies have prepared documents with overviews of what is supported by which mail client. The overall concensus is that you can use pretty old HTML: layout with tables, use font tag to modify text appearance, only use inline CSS (style="..." attribute on tag) and only use CSS as a bonus (i.e. if no CSS is displayed it won't be a real problem). Use alt-attribute on all images
11:26 Coppershade-org^ reading docs...brb
11:27 Phlogi_ Jigal: hmm thats sad or it means much work for me now... but ok I will try... I'm using templavoila, is that a problem? I don't know how to the thing with inline tags..
11:27 just2b_ jigal... new outlook looses ability to work with most of css-displaying because it doesn't uses IE for rendering but word!!
11:28 just2b_ so write nice text newsletters and make everybody happy
11:29 Jigal just2b_: that's why I said that the CSS you include is to be seen as a bonus (nice if it works, but no problem if it doesn't)
11:29 just2b_ ok sry
11:29 Jigal just2b_: Lotus notes is also very bad in displaying HTML mail.
11:30 Jigal no problem, it was a very large remark I made to Phlogi_ :-)
11:30 just2b_ yeah.. i always hate these newsletters...
11:30 just2b_ yeah.. ;)
11:30 Phlogi_ just2b_: thats not my company wants :)
11:30 just2b_ btw jigal, you remember the output of testing smoothgallery with IE cause i testeet some things
11:30 Phlogi_ Jigal: do you know a link where I can get more info about that topic, or even a list that compares html functionality of different email clients?
11:31 just2b_ Phlogi_ if company says "to this for 10€" you will follow? ^^
11:31 Jigal Best way is a logo on top, text with only a few images below that and maybe a footer image. Very simple layout...
11:31 Tarilla just2b_: depends on how much the companie pays and how strict the bodd is, I suspect
11:31 Tarilla boss
11:32 just2b_ tarilla i don't have these kind of customers.. only those who I can talk to and explain why something is bad and it works
11:32 Jigal just2b_: smoothgallery was the thing with the problems of having more than one on a page, the wobbly thumbnails, etc.?
11:32 just2b_ yeah
11:32 Phlogi_ just2b_: they pay good... :) But I can understand too... lets see what I can do. Maybe I will create a table structure... thats the best thing... I hope I can connect that easily with TV
11:33 just2b_ jigal, can you do another test for me?
11:33 Jigal Phlogi_: I'll look up where you can find such a document.
11:33 Tarilla Question to all: I have two columns. In the right one, there is a small, grayscales version of a picture. When the website-user clicks onto this, I want the picture to appear, with normal size and no grayscale, in the left column. How can I do that?
11:34 Jigal Phlogi_: you can always explain that in order for the newsletter to work with many clients it must be like this, otherwise don't complain to you if it doesn't work :-)
11:34 just2b_ tarilla with an extension, not by default possible i guess
11:34 Tarilla Wich extension? There are too many....
11:34 Jigal just2b_: yeah fine, here or via a pm?
11:34 Phlogi_ Jigal: hehe
11:35 just2b_ here because I can't change nick to a reigsterd one.. or how can i in trillian? ;)
11:35 just2b_ 1st make sure the version is 1.2. in the 1st line > http://www.rggooglemap.com/typo3conf/ext/rgsmoothgallery/res/scripts/jd.gallery.js
11:35 just2b_ just a reload will do
11:35 Jigal just2b_: I set the registered nick in the connection manager and then >>>
11:36 just2b_ yeah but i can't switch to the without _ ..
11:36 just2b_ ok 2nd step > open http://www.rggooglemap.com/dev/rgsmoothgallery/smoothgallery-in-text-mit-bild.html
11:37 just2b_ take a look what works ... I guess on 1st image does everything work except the big image.. so the buttons prev/next and lightbox (just click at the middle) and changing images in the lightbox mode
11:37 Jigal this: /msg NickServ IDENTIFY password;/join #typo3 in the Buffer field on the connection tab behind the Change... button
11:38 Jigal just2b_: 1.2 in the js :-)
11:38 just2b_ i got this in there... but I get the nick just2b_ .. ah damn it ;)
11:40 just2b_ will be back soon ;)
11:40 Coppershade-org^ how do I 'check symlinks'?
11:40 Jigal just2b_: still doesn't work :-(
11:41 just2b_ all or just not the big image?
11:41 Coppershade-org^ source is installed in typo3_src-4.1.1, do the symlinks automatically point to that dir?
11:41 Jigal The first one on the page doesn't show the image at all (only two arrows and a bar in the middle of the area)
11:42 Jigal Coppershade-org^: ls -al will also show you where symlinks point to ...
11:42 meppl hi
11:42 just2b_ jigal, if you click at first one in the middle.. lightbox opens with or witzout image?
11:43 meppl i try to learn typo3 and then i red the documentation of typo3 and im now there: http://typo3.org/documentation/document-library/core-documentation/doc_core_ts/4.1.0/view/1/4/
11:43 meppl suddenly there is php-code
11:43 meppl i would like to write my own php-code
11:44 meppl but "where" do i have to place it?
11:44 just2b_ afk
11:44 meppl where can i place php-code to parse the ts-tree?
11:46 Coppershade-org^ Jigal, thanks :) It automatically points to the right place. Good :)
11:46 Jigal just2b_: black background on first one is not clickable; clicking on an arrow results in js error on line 358, char 3: this.carouselContainer.normalHeight is null or not an object
11:46 meppl i hope my question is not stupid anyhow :-|
11:46 Fanty anyone know where to find something on whats what and how to when writing service extensions?
11:47 just2b_ ok thx
11:47 skorpi Fanty: core api or inside typo3 i think
11:47 just2b_ fanty look at the docu for services
11:50 Jigal Fanty: http://typo3.org/documentation/document-library/extension-manuals/cc_svauthdemo/1.1.1/view/toc/0/ this maybe?
11:50 Fanty oh, nice Jigal
11:50 meppl should i look into the ext-docu to know, where i can place php-code in the typo3-cms?
11:51 Jigal meppl: the question is not stupid, but the answer is a bit complicated. You can either include your onw php code by using PHP_SCRIPT in TypoScript (there are several documents about TypoScript) or by writing an extension (also a few documents about that).
11:52 Coppershade-org^ index integrity was perfect! \o/
11:52 Coppershade-org^ :)
11:52 Jigal meppl: you also have to read your way through the API documentation to find all the classes, functions and variables you need from the TYPO3 framework to extract information from the page tree or the page contents.
11:53 meppl Jigal, i see. actually i red the typoscript-docs, i gues i red over the PHP_SCRIPT-thing, which should be documented there
11:54 meppl thx jigal
11:56 meppl kk
11:56 Jigal meppl: warning: TYPO3 has a pretty steep learning curve; the system is complex because you can actually changed almost every aspect of TYPO3. You will think you've lost your mind in the process, you will become desperate, you will have a headache and you will curse at the system. After you've read loads of pages, searched every corner of the internet and asked a zillion questions you will see the light at the end of the tunnel. :-)
11:58 meppl as yet its still clear to me ;)
11:58 Coppershade-org^ got two warning about the install tool. Just delete typo3_src/typo3/install directory?
11:59 Jigal meppl: if you ask a question about some detail always mention what you want to achieve; sometimes you end up asking how you can use a hammer to drive a screw in the wall :-)
12:01 meppl yes, thats the newbie's problem
12:04 Coppershade-org^ nobody talks to me... :(
12:08 Jigal hi andreasbalzer
12:08 andreasbalzer hi
12:08 Jigal andreasbalzer: Coppershade-org^ wants somebody to talk to him/her :-D
12:09 andreasbalzer what's his problem?
12:09 Jigal his childhood maybe? LOL
12:10 andreasbalzer ??
12:10 Jigal something about the install tool
12:10 andreasbalzer ok.. so coppershade...?
12:11 just2b_ jigal havefun ;)
12:11 Jigal just2b_: no I won't :-(
12:11 just2b_ ok, do it good and be fast ;)
12:12 m4rtijn hello all
12:13 Coppershade-org^ well, I wrote several questions but you guys didn't seem to see them
12:13 Coppershade-org^ anyway, I deleted the install tool directory
12:13 Coppershade-org^ now I only have 1 warning about the joh316. but I guess it's because that info is still in the cache
12:13 andreasbalzer hm.. i wasn't online, so...
12:13 andreasbalzer can you post them again?
12:14 Coppershade-org^ read about the admin menu, but the doc doesn't show the menu I see :)
12:14 Coppershade-org^ [14:05] <Coppershade-org^> got two warning about the install tool. Just delete typo3_src/typo3/install directory?
12:14 andreasbalzer you have to change your localconf.php in typo3conf/
12:14 andreasbalzer and you might reupload the folder
12:14 Coppershade-org^ the install folder?
12:15 Coppershade-org^ typo3/install?
12:15 Coppershade-org^ anyway, gonna play around
12:16 Coppershade-org^ I thought there were dummy pages? "No pages are found on the rootlevel!"
12:17 andreasbalzer only if you installed the testsite package
12:17 andreasbalzer dummy means no pages by default
12:18 Coppershade-org^ I followed this: http://typo3.org/download/packages/
12:18 andreasbalzer yes. The testsite package is no longer available there
12:18 Coppershade-org^ followed install.txt, dummy was untar'ed and renamed to cms/
12:19 andreasbalzer but you might be able to spot it somewhere on Google (i don't know it better)
12:30 Phlogi_ how can I disable that stylesheet: typo3temp/stylesheet_0de2682a96.css
12:32 Phlogi_ this is auto generated right?
12:41 snowgirl how can i test wether a ressource exists?
12:43 snowgirl is something like file.ressource.if.exists possible?
13:05 m4rtijn .. hmm .. I just wanted to explain a customer the use of the backend.. but the text editor wouldn't load at all.. neither in IE nor in FF .. I checked all browser security settings but it didnt work.. any ideas?
13:09 snowgirl which version m4rtijn ?
13:09 specialunderwear Is it possible to add a class property to an image tag generated by GMENU? addParams doesn't work ...
13:09 snowgirl imgParams
13:10 m4rtijn 4.0.4 snowgirl
13:11 snowgirl 4.0.4 of typo3? There is an update for the rte, because there is a bug in a FF version. But never heard that it doesn't work in IE before
13:12 m4rtijn me neither :p
13:12 Phlogi_ anyone knows how I can create an anchor menu?
13:20 teppi|work Phlogi_, this: http://phpfi.com/241924 is an anchor menu from one of our projects as a flexible content element with templa voila .. maybe you can use something of this code ..
13:21 Phlogi_ teppi|work: thanks a lot!
13:21 teppi|work np
13:21 Phlogi_ but for that case we will create it by hand
13:21 Phlogi_ its for the newsletter
13:29 specialunderwear snowgirl: thnx
14:05 Phlogi_ how can I create a link in TS to the current page?
14:05 just2b_ use parameter.field = pid
14:06 just2b_ or uid.. depends where you are
14:06 Phlogi_ just2b_: ehm on a newsletter and I want to generate a link there to the page
14:07 just2b_ should be pid
14:08 Phlogi_ hmm could you give me an example in TS for a TEXT object that I can use for a marker?
14:11 just2b_ why so lazy?=
14:11 just2b_ entering typo3 typolink in google so hard? i guess clicking first result and scrolling to the comments must be even harder
14:12 Phlogi_ just2b_: I'm in hurry thats the problem, sorry, is this correct: :http://phpfi.com/241932
14:13 just2b_ yeah
14:13 just2b_ we are all in a hurry and everything must be fast
14:15 Phlogi_ just2b_: so its fine? =)
14:15 m4rtijn im not.. I have to work till 9PM anyways today
14:15 Phlogi_ :-D
14:16 m4rtijn then I dont work for 2 weeks!!! yay
14:17 Phlogi_ so can anyone help me with this small thing
14:18 specialunderwear Is it possible to link to a different page and language at the same time? Atm it redirects to current page ...
14:19 specialunderwear Phlogi_: i think it's supposed to be marks.ONLINE.typolink.parameter.field = pid
14:20 just2b_ specialunderwear if his marker is all lower characters... it is correct
14:21 Phlogi_ hmm I need the full URL returned with text. How can I do that? returnLast=url deos not give the http://www.sitename.org before it
14:23 just2b_ why not add the siteUrl??
14:23 Phlogi_ aso a config option or how do you mean just2b_
14:24 just2b_ as a wrap
14:24 Phlogi_ ah yes
14:24 olrt Hi everybody !!
14:25 Phlogi_ just2b_: thanks!
14:25 olrt Let me say one thing. Typo3 is very powerfull but too far complex for simple things.
14:26 just2b_ olrt, it depends ;)
14:26 just2b_ i also make simple websites with it because i know it already...
14:26 olrt I have the regret to say that I prefer far DotNetNuke
14:26 nutcase hi@all
14:27 just2b_ but also don't make training for flying jets and 747 if you just want to fly with a model in your garden
14:27 olrt just2b_: You're right.
14:27 nutcase i have a question regarding selector boxes in a flexible content element: how can i create a selector box, which takes some database records?
14:27 just2b_ ólrt so please don'T complain here.. I also don'T come to #dotnetnuke and say all the things which are not possible :D
14:29 olrt just2b_: The fact is I'm very disappointed with Typo3 , regarding the complexity of coding simple extensions. As a consequence, I had to debug myself several repository extensions which costed me much time :-(
14:29 olrt just2b_: Adding to Typo3 complexity the fact that there are no equivalent tools for developing with PHP than above the .NET Platform
14:30 olrt just2b_: Let me say that trying to do simple things with Typo3 is an exploit
14:30 just2b_ just2b you have to differ betwen typo3 core and extensions... 2nd is not the fault of typo3
14:31 olrt just2b_: The fact is that the complexity of the Typo3 core makes extensions rather hard to debug for a newcomer
14:32 olrt just2b_: Adding to that fact the poor developer tools inherent to PHP language
14:32 just2b_ which complex thing is not hard for a beginer?
14:32 olrt just2b_: There's complex and complex :-D
14:32 delmonico tt_news question: when I use ###NEWS_SUBHEADER### all linbreaks are removed, how can I change this behaviour?
14:33 just2b_ yeah the code is not the best.. thats why everything is rewritten.. will make it even harder for newcomers because of oop, AOP,...
14:34 just2b_ there is a huge thing going on with new version of typo3
14:35 m4rtijn hmm, why cant my new BE user create folders in the "image browse/image picker" ?
14:35 just2b_ you didn't allowed to?
14:35 delmonico just2b_: if its done better this time it will be easier for newcomers
14:36 m4rtijn hmm, i looked through all allowed fields.. cant find anything conserning that
14:36 just2b_ delmonico yeah we will see.. i really look forward for the jsr and the content repository
14:36 just2b_ m4rtijn user settings on left side, some checkboxes below
14:37 m4rtijn Fileoperation permissions: ?
14:37 m4rtijn Directory: Move,Delete,Rename,New is active
14:38 olrt just2b_: So Typo3 V5 will be far more complex than V4 ?? ^^
14:39 just2b_ olrt it will be new, inventing things in the php world which are quite new
14:39 olrt just2b_: Every new version of any software brings some new things ^^
14:40 just2b_ yeah but there will be the whole concept new
14:40 olrt just2b_: But isn't Typo3 pushing PHP to its limits ?
14:40 just2b_ no
14:40 olrt just2b_: Is OOP and AOP in PHP reasonable ?
14:40 just2b_ there will be the jsr-170 java content repository available in php..
14:41 just2b_ yeah why not
14:41 m4rtijn strange.. if I browse/upload images I can create folders in the popup...
14:41 m4rtijn as BE admin
14:41 olrt just2b_: What PHP lacks is an Application Framework
14:42 olrt just2b_: The fact is that any CMS project written in PHP brings it's own Application Framework
14:43 just2b_ yeah php can't have only pros... but either way.. i need to go out now for some biking ;)
14:44 olrt just2b_: Ok good biking session ;-)
14:44 olrt good bye everybody
14:44 olrt thanks for the dialog
14:50 snowgirl Fatal error: main(): Failed opening required '/var/www/typo3/dummy-3.7.1/t3lib/class.t3lib_timetrack.php' (include_path='.:/usr/share/php:/usr/share/pear') in /var/www/typo3/typo3_src-3.7.1/tslib/index_ts.php on line 71
14:51 snowgirl anybody dealt with this before?
14:51 snowgirl I just tried to setup a fresh typo3.7.1 installation, because I need it of testing purposes
14:57 m4rtijn hmm.. something else.. how can I give BE users the right to "delete FE cache" ?
15:03 just2b_ m4rtijn there is an ext for it
16:32 uschi hi folks :)
16:36 uschi hi just2b_ :)
16:36 just2b_ hi uschi
16:48 uschi just2b_, is there any possibility to logout of the install tool?
16:49 just2b_ uschi, IMO no
16:49 uschi i have never cared about it
16:49 just2b_ there is no need
16:49 uschi thx :)
16:49 uschi why not?
16:49 just2b_ you shouldnt have a running install tool :D
16:49 just2b_ disable it with the ENABLE_INSTALL_TOOL if you donm't need it
17:05 uschi voidus, do you know the way to set the default be language to german or russian for all users?
17:06 voidus yes..
17:06 voidus define user TSConfig for all users
17:06 voidus with one line: SETUP.lang = de
17:09 uschi voidus, where do i have to do this?
17:10 uschi sorry for being so stupid
17:10 voidus it's not a simple question
17:10 voidus there was an extension that allows you to put default TSC for all users
17:24 Rocketjock Hello VERYONE
17:24 Rocketjock ries_ happy friday
17:25 uschi hi Rocketjock
17:25 Rocketjock errr. high everyone
17:25 Rocketjock hi uschi :)
17:27 Rocketjock so what uschi... planning anything fun for the weekend?
17:27 uschi not really :)
17:28 Rocketjock I have to work on my house this weekend :(
17:29 ries_ Rocketjock: I work every day in my house!!
17:34 uschi hey ries_ :)
17:36 ries_ Hey uschi
19:26 Tanuva I have a local typo3-installation (kubuntu 7.04) running perfectly. Now Im trying to install typo3 on my debian-etch-vserver. After havent really succeeded with the packages from the repository, I downloaded the two zips and put them into the same folder as described in the readme, this setup works localhost, but on the server it complains about a missing tslib/, which isnt even used anymore as I found out. What can I do to get typo running?
19:27 Tanuva The installation should reside in /var/www/web2/html, general access works as I tested with a selfmade html file
19:36 ckoehler double check your directory structure
19:38 ckoehler as described in the readme or install file
19:38 ckoehler Tanuva:
19:39 Tanuva okay... Ill take a second look
19:43 ckoehler tslib is still used
19:43 ckoehler not sure who told you it isn't :)
19:43 ckoehler it's just not in the root directory anymore
19:49 Tanuva ckoehler: hmm. seems like rechecking it all calmly was the solution, now the installer pops up, seems to work. thank you :)
19:50 ckoehler no problem :)
19:50 Tanuva I was quite upset because i already fuzzled around with the files here and thought I could set it up on the server way easier because I now know what to do ;D
20:28 ckoehler how do i change the default language for a page?
20:28 ckoehler just need to test stuff
20:28 ckoehler not localize anything
20:29 ckoehler so i want $GLOBALS['TSFE']->config['config']['language'] to return something other than blank
21:25 meppl good night

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