| 08:11 |
koomi |
sunday favourite website? http://www.washlet.com/ |
| 10:05 |
andreasbalzer |
hello :) |
| 10:19 |
uschi |
hi folks :)) |
| 10:19 |
andreasbalzer |
hi uschi :) |
| 10:19 |
uschi |
hi andreasbalzer :) |
| 10:26 |
andreasbalzer |
someone around with a huge problem? |
| 10:28 |
koomi |
lol. |
| 10:28 |
koomi |
you've got too much time on your hands andreasbalzer |
| 10:30 |
andreasbalzer |
yes |
| 10:30 |
andreasbalzer |
I'm just relearning how to code good PHP code.. My two years of Turbo Pascal ruined my skills ;) |
| 10:31 |
andreasbalzer |
afterwards I'll look into the CORE API's and REF's... |
| 10:31 |
theone1979 |
hello all |
| 10:31 |
andreasbalzer |
..of T3 |
| 10:31 |
andreasbalzer |
hello theone1979 |
| 10:31 |
theone1979 |
i am trying to do multilanguage in 3.8.1 |
| 10:31 |
theone1979 |
using the testsite |
| 10:32 |
theone1979 |
but i cant seem to copy from the working "another site in the same db" into the "startpage" |
| 10:32 |
andreasbalzer |
what error message do you get? |
| 10:32 |
andreasbalzer |
what are you doing exaclty? |
| 10:32 |
theone1979 |
none |
| 10:32 |
andreasbalzer |
do you open the documents an d copy and past |
| 10:33 |
andreasbalzer |
or do you try to move the elements and records within the pagetree? |
| 10:33 |
theone1979 |
euh.. trying to have multilang pages in "startpage" instead of "antoher site.." |
| 10:33 |
theone1979 |
copied the TS language settings |
| 10:34 |
theone1979 |
am i explaining it ok? |
| 10:34 |
andreasbalzer |
ah ok. I'll get it in a few seconds I think ;) |
| 10:34 |
andreasbalzer |
what codes did you copy? |
| 10:34 |
theone1979 |
copied Language settings template to startpage |
| 10:35 |
andreasbalzer |
the whole template element or just parts of it? |
| 10:35 |
theone1979 |
element |
| 10:35 |
theone1979 |
whole |
| 10:36 |
theone1979 |
but the flags on the bottom wont come up |
| 10:36 |
andreasbalzer |
ok.. please open it and tell me whether is rootpage or clear constants or something similar is activated |
| 10:36 |
andreasbalzer |
what flags on the bottom? |
| 10:36 |
theone1979 |
you know the testsite typo3 |
| 10:37 |
theone1979 |
with startpage photomarathon |
| 10:37 |
theone1979 |
etc |
| 10:38 |
theone1979 |
i selected the earth symbol and clicked on list |
| 10:38 |
theone1979 |
(earth symbol: TYPO3 Testsite ) |
| 10:39 |
theone1979 |
there i have Website Language : Danish and German |
| 10:40 |
koomi |
theone1979: did you read the frontend localization guide? |
| 10:40 |
theone1979 |
do i need to? |
| 10:40 |
koomi |
one of the more readable docs in typo3's library |
| 10:40 |
koomi |
jup. |
| 10:40 |
koomi |
since you want more than one language in your frontend |
| 10:41 |
koomi |
i'd suggest reading it |
| 10:41 |
theone1979 |
but i just want to make a copy of an excisting install in the same db |
| 10:41 |
koomi |
explains basic translation concepts |
| 10:41 |
andreasbalzer |
theone1979: i don't know the templates of the testsite package.. sry |
| 10:41 |
koomi |
huh? |
| 10:41 |
koomi |
theone1979: pure mysql copy or a backup? |
| 10:41 |
koomi |
theone1979: you can export a page tree |
| 10:41 |
theone1979 |
i have a working installation |
| 10:41 |
theone1979 |
just want to implement it on another page in the same db |
| 10:42 |
koomi |
what's "another page in the same db"? |
| 10:42 |
koomi |
different database on the same host? |
| 10:42 |
theone1979 |
the strange thing is: i think i do the exact thing as the page where it is implemented |
| 10:42 |
theone1979 |
nope |
| 10:42 |
theone1979 |
same db same host |
| 10:42 |
theone1979 |
but the flags on the bottom wont appear |
| 10:43 |
theone1979 |
mm |
| 10:43 |
theone1979 |
is the language thing also in the template.html ? |
| 10:44 |
theone1979 |
because i cant seem to find the BUSINESS template |
| 10:45 |
theone1979 |
where are the standard templates located? |
| 10:45 |
theone1979 |
where are the standard templates located? |
| 10:52 |
theone1979 |
ls |
| 10:53 |
theone1979 |
does anyone know where the standard builtin templates are located? |
| 10:53 |
uschi |
what do you mean by located? |
| 10:53 |
uschi |
you mean, where you can add them? |
| 10:54 |
theone1979 |
well... for example the BUSINESS template |
| 10:54 |
theone1979 |
i want to have a look in the template file |
| 10:54 |
theone1979 |
for multilanguage pages.. |
| 10:55 |
uschi |
they are stored in the db |
| 10:55 |
uschi |
wait i have to restart my browser |
| 10:55 |
theone1979 |
cant seem to make it work with a new page |
| 10:55 |
theone1979 |
k |
| 10:58 |
null_0 |
they reside into ~media/uploads/$yourtheme |
| 10:59 |
null_0 |
the green, and creative copenhagen templates... are there, but business, i don't know |
| 10:59 |
theone1979 |
i havent seen it.. mmm |
| 11:41 |
tomaj |
is there someone who has experiences with typo3 running on postgre? |
| 12:21 |
dokma |
hey ppl |
| 12:21 |
dokma |
can someone tell me what does the star do in here? |
| 12:21 |
dokma |
stylesheet*.css |
| 12:22 |
theone1979 |
this file is in a dir? |
| 12:23 |
dokma |
in ts setup |
| 12:23 |
theone1979 |
then its a variable |
| 12:23 |
dokma |
page.includeCSS.file1 = stylesheet*.css |
| 12:23 |
theone1979 |
i think |
| 12:24 |
dokma |
I saw Kasper put that star in one of the tutorial videos |
| 12:24 |
theone1979 |
mmm ok.. |
| 12:24 |
dokma |
he said smthng like 'to bullet proof .... we put the star here' |
| 12:24 |
dokma |
but what does the star do alluded me |
| 12:30 |
koomi |
would include stylesheet_1.css or stylesheet_200.css |
| 12:30 |
koomi |
it's a wildcard |
| 12:30 |
dokma |
koomi |
| 12:30 |
dokma |
what if it resolves to more files? |
| 12:31 |
koomi |
then you're screwed :) |
| 12:31 |
koomi |
i wouldnt use wildcards |
| 12:31 |
dokma |
heh |
| 12:31 |
dokma |
I just found Kasper talking about it |
| 12:31 |
dokma |
he said 'to make this bulletproof so I can copy my templates to other websites' |
| 12:31 |
dokma |
what was that supposed to mean? |
| 12:32 |
koomi |
that's because typo3 adds _$number to copies when you export/import |
| 12:32 |
koomi |
if you export your pagetree with template and files and import them again the filenames change |
| 12:32 |
dokma |
ahhh |
| 12:32 |
dokma |
I see |
| 12:33 |
dokma |
tx |
| 12:49 |
ries |
koomi: I always wondered about the * |
| 12:50 |
ries |
I never used it myself, nor pagetree import/export worked for me |
| 12:50 |
ries |
But that might be because I am suing templavoila |
| 12:58 |
null_0 |
...reasonably... :) |
| 13:38 |
dokma |
ppl |
| 13:38 |
dokma |
how do I add the 'clear all cache' link |
| 13:38 |
dokma |
for admin user? |
| 14:16 |
dokma |
how do I import croatian be language pack? |
| 14:16 |
dokma |
I can't find it |
| 14:42 |
dokma |
found it |
| 15:03 |
monis_raz |
hello can any one help me |
| 15:03 |
monis_raz |
is it poessible... generate a list of latest PAGES (instead of tt_news entries) using the sitemap with regular updated pages preference |
| 16:03 |
christian______ |
hey monis_raz still here? |
| 16:50 |
byguigui |
hello, i'm new to typo3, and have a problem with templavoila, i created 2 different DS, with eachone TO, and now.. i have the "no template found" error, any idea? |
| 16:54 |
delmonico |
how can I make a menu like "foo | bar | baz" i.e. have a different wrap for the last link? |
| 17:33 |
monis_raz |
hello Uschi! |
| 17:33 |
monis_raz |
are u there? |
| 17:55 |
Phlogiston |
4Random Fortune: DOS: n., A small annoying boot virus that causes random spontaneous system crashes, usually just before saving a massive project. Easily cured by UNIX. See also MS-DOS, IBM-DOS, DR-DOS. -- David Vicker's .plan |
| 18:01 |
dokma |
phlogi |
| 18:01 |
dokma |
u doin ext programming? |
| 18:02 |
dokma |
phlogiston |
| 18:02 |
Phlogiston |
dokma: jap why? |
| 18:02 |
Phlogiston |
dokma: but not on sundays :D |
| 18:02 |
dokma |
hehe |
| 18:02 |
dokma |
I just started |
| 18:02 |
dokma |
and I have a q |
| 18:02 |
Phlogiston |
dokma: ha ok |
| 18:02 |
dokma |
my fronted plugin has one table |
| 18:03 |
dokma |
and I need to enable my fronted user to delete records from it |
| 18:03 |
dokma |
now I can easily do this with a simple query |
| 18:03 |
Phlogiston |
dokma: yes :) |
| 18:03 |
dokma |
but I realized that there is this thing called typo3 api |
| 18:03 |
Phlogiston |
dokma: yes |
| 18:03 |
dokma |
should I do it via some api function |
| 18:03 |
dokma |
or just hit it with a query ? |
| 18:03 |
Phlogiston |
dokma: just read the article on t3.org ok? |
| 18:03 |
dokma |
which one? |
| 18:03 |
Phlogiston |
sed |
| 18:03 |
Phlogiston |
sec |
| 18:04 |
dokma |
I saw all the videos about ext programming |
| 18:04 |
dokma |
twice |
| 18:04 |
dokma |
and followed them through by programming my ext along side |
| 18:05 |
Phlogiston |
http://typo3.org/documentation/document-library/core-documentation/doc_core_inside/4.1.0/view/3/6/ |
| 18:06 |
Phlogiston |
hmm thats not the right one sorry |
| 18:06 |
Phlogiston |
i can't find it |
| 18:06 |
monis_raz |
hell |
| 18:06 |
monis_raz |
hello |
| 18:07 |
monis_raz |
can u suggest that how to "generate a list of latest PAGES (instead of tt_news entries) using the sitemap with regular updated pages preference" |
| 18:07 |
Phlogiston |
damn I really can't find it |
| 18:08 |
dokma |
hmm |
| 18:08 |
dokma |
what was in the article? |
| 18:08 |
monis_raz |
hello Phlogiston |
| 18:09 |
Phlogiston |
hello |
| 18:09 |
Phlogiston |
dokma: exactly what you need |
| 18:09 |
monis_raz |
can you help me a bit Phlogiston |
| 18:09 |
dokma |
arghhh!! |
| 18:10 |
monis_raz |
can u suggest that how to "generate a list of latest PAGES (instead of tt_news entries) using the sitemap with regular updated pages preference" |
| 18:11 |
Phlogiston |
dokma: wait I'm still searching :D |
| 18:11 |
dokma |
cool |
| 18:11 |
dokma |
I'm looking for it too |
| 18:11 |
Phlogiston |
got it! |
| 18:11 |
Phlogiston |
http://typo3.org/documentation/document-library/core-documentation/doc_core_cgl/4.1.0/view/1/4/ |
| 18:12 |
Phlogiston |
monis_raz: I think you can do that with TS |
| 18:13 |
monis_raz |
can u suggest me how? if possible i am in real rouble |
| 18:13 |
monis_raz |
*trouble |
| 18:13 |
Phlogiston |
oh nice: http://www.typo3-media.com/blog/article/typoscript-approvements-in-typo3-4.html |
| 18:13 |
Phlogiston |
monis_raz: hmm what do you exactly need? A list of the last updated pages? |
| 18:14 |
monis_raz |
yup |
| 18:17 |
monis_raz |
are you looking into it? |
| 18:17 |
Phlogiston |
monis_raz: look for updated: http://typo3.org/documentation/document-library/references/doc_core_tsref/4.1.0/view/8/11/#id3651051 |
| 18:17 |
monis_raz |
ok |
| 18:17 |
Phlogiston |
monis_raz: I hope you can use TS :9 |
| 18:17 |
Phlogiston |
I'm off soon |
| 18:18 |
monis_raz |
ok |
| 18:20 |
Phlogiston |
monis_raz: good luck... I'll be here tomorrow all the time btw :) |
| 18:20 |
monis_raz |
thanks for your help, by the way i m stiil stuck |
| 18:21 |
Phlogiston |
monis_raz: why are you stuck? Do you understand TS? |
| 18:21 |
monis_raz |
I do, but i could'nt find the solution to my problem |
| 18:21 |
monis_raz |
in that reference |
| 18:22 |
monis_raz |
u have given |
| 18:23 |
monis_raz |
still thanks for your kind help :-) |
| 18:25 |
Phlogiston |
monis_raz: hmm you can do a menu with the special property set to updated? This will generate links of the last pages edited... thats not what you want? |
| 18:26 |
Phlogiston |
monis_raz: http://www.typo3wizard.com/en/snippets/cool-stuff-typoscript/create-top-10-last-updated-contents.html |
| 18:27 |
Phlogiston |
monis_raz: http://www.typo3wizard.com/de/snippets/menus/last-updated.html |
| 18:27 |
Phlogiston |
monis_raz: or check even that extension: Last update |
| 18:28 |
monis_raz |
you are really well equipped with knowledge and feel of cooperation |
| 18:28 |
monis_raz |
just great to see you |
| 18:29 |
monis_raz |
thanks a lot! |
| 18:29 |
monis_raz |
i will try it and let you know tomarrow if unable solved |
| 18:29 |
Phlogiston |
monis_raz: hey no problem! I was here the last 2 months and get a lot of help so its time to me to share what I learned about typo3 :) |
| 18:29 |
Phlogiston |
monis_raz: yes no problem, good luck I'm really of now :-D |
| 18:29 |
monis_raz |
bye take care |
| 18:30 |
monis_raz |
catch u tommorow |
| 18:30 |
Phlogiston |
monis_raz: yeah cu |
| 18:31 |
monis_raz |
cu |
| 18:46 |
Phlogiston |
dokma: did you see http://typo3.org/documentation/document-library/core-documentation/doc_core_cgl/4.1.0/view/1/4/? |
| 18:56 |
uschi |
hi folks :) |
| 18:58 |
monis_raz |
hello |
| 18:59 |
monis_raz |
Uschi i was just waiting for u |
| 18:59 |
uschi |
just having a look at your query |
| 18:59 |
monis_raz |
aah thanx |
| 19:27 |
jananne |
I can't figger out how to make a FE User that can edit content. In the tutorials it is explained very confused. What steps do i have to take? |
| 19:28 |
jananne |
Any one? |
| 19:35 |
koomi |
jananne: what tutorial? |
| 19:47 |
dokma |
hey phlogi I just came back from dinner |
| 19:47 |
dokma |
will take a look now |
| 19:49 |
jananne |
koomi, just the modern template building tut. |
| 19:51 |
koomi |
jananne: do you mean frontend user (people browsing your website) or backend user (people who can login in the backend) |
| 19:58 |
jananne |
i mean fronted |
| 19:58 |
jananne |
frontend users * |
| 19:59 |
jananne |
koomi: I can't figger out why my Front End users can not edit any content |
| 20:09 |
koomi |
jananne: to let your frontend user edit content they need special permissions - and probably you need an extension. |
| 20:22 |
ries |
monis_raz: it's possible, but not easy... they might be an extension out there that can do it already |
| 20:41 |
uschi |
hey ries :) |
| 20:41 |
ries |
hey uschi |
| 20:42 |
uschi |
is gerards still with you, or did he go home already? |
| 20:48 |
ries |
uschi: I am not sure where he is right now (sleeping) ? |
| 20:48 |
ries |
But I think he is currently in signapore |
| 20:49 |
uschi |
hm, i have not seen him recently |
| 20:49 |
uschi |
so he went home |
| 20:50 |
ries |
uschi: he first went to the USA for a small 1 week holliday |
| 20:50 |
ries |
then back home |
| 20:52 |
uschi |
and left you all alone, poor ries |
| 20:52 |
ries |
uschi: well.. he left karina here :) |
| 20:52 |
ries |
and since we are going to work together I will speak to him on a almost daily base |
| 20:53 |
uschi |
he will miss her food, as he told me |
| 20:53 |
uschi |
and, of course, karina is most important to you |
| 21:00 |
dokma |
Phlogiston |
| 21:00 |
dokma |
how do I access pi vars? |
| 21:00 |
dokma |
argh... |
| 21:00 |
dokma |
phlogi is gone |
| 21:00 |
uschi |
poor dogma |
| 21:06 |
ries |
dokma: $this -> piVars['']; from your extension |
| 21:07 |
dokma |
ries |
| 21:07 |
dokma |
tx |
| 21:07 |
dokma |
I just tried to use that |
| 21:07 |
dokma |
however my variable is not there |
| 21:07 |
dokma |
this is how I passed it via URL |
| 21:08 |
dokma |
$this->pi_linkTP($this->pi_getLL('pi_list_create_new'), array('create_new' => 1)) |
| 21:11 |
ries |
can you give me a sample how your get params look like? |
| 21:12 |
ries |
generated by pi_linkTP |
| 21:13 |
dokma |
http://devel/index.php?id=1&type=1&no_cache=1&create_new=1 |
| 21:17 |
dokma |
ries ? |
| 21:17 |
ries |
alright... |
| 21:17 |
ries |
I thought so already... it's not your fault, typo3 is not clear on how to use the API correctly |
| 21:18 |
ries |
$this->pi_linkTP($this->pi_getLL('pi_list_create_new'), array($this -> PLUGINNAME . '[create_new]' => 1)) |
| 21:18 |
ries |
try that |
| 21:19 |
ries |
$this->pi_linkTP($this->pi_getLL('pi_list_create_new'), array($this -> prefixId . '[create_new]' => 1)) |
| 21:19 |
ries |
You need to end up with somehting like : http://devel/index.php?id=1&type=1&no_cache=1&myplugin_pi1[create_new]=1 |
| 21:20 |
dokma |
ahhh |
| 21:24 |
dokma |
ries, it works now |
| 21:33 |
ries |
dokma: typo3's documentation about that is plain horrible... |
| 21:33 |
ries |
sometimes you DO need to prefix, sometimes you don't |
| 21:34 |
ries |
I always yse the function with the 'keepPIvars' option |
| 21:34 |
ries |
because that one also seems to handle cHash properly |
| 22:02 |
dokma |
ries |
| 22:03 |
dokma |
did you write some of the extensions available in the ter? |
| 22:03 |
ries |
yes |
| 22:03 |
ries |
although they are old... |
| 22:04 |
ries |
they start with rvt_ or ltg_ |
| 22:04 |
dokma |
cool |
| 22:04 |
dokma |
so you are a contributor |
| 22:04 |
dokma |
too bad typo3 is so poorly documented |
| 22:04 |
dokma |
at least in the extension development arena |
| 22:05 |
dokma |
duh |
| 22:05 |
dokma |
I just realized I need to create a form within my extension |
| 22:05 |
dokma |
questions started popping up |
| 22:05 |
dokma |
how do I name my vars? |
| 22:06 |
dokma |
how is the action string constructed |
| 22:06 |
dokma |
how do I prevent double submitting |
| 22:06 |
dokma |
I feel like I am learning the whole web programming all over again |
| 22:25 |
ries |
dokma: vars are named like this : <input name="myplugin_pi1[myvarname]" /> |
| 22:25 |
ries |
same as with get vars |
| 22:25 |
ries |
teh action string is basicly the URL of the current page, then when your plugin get's executed you will find them in piVars |
| 22:26 |
ries |
double submitting is prevented with for example a random (timer) value as a hidden value in your form |
| 22:26 |
ries |
then simply check in a session if the form was double submitted |
| 22:27 |
dokma |
I guess all but the random timer |
| 22:27 |
dokma |
I save the timer in the session |
| 22:27 |
dokma |
how do I tell by the time if the submission is a double or not? |
| 22:28 |
ries |
on first submit you store your random value in a session, |
| 22:28 |
ries |
then we you get a second submit you check teh session for the same value |
| 22:28 |
ries |
if it's there you know it's a double submit |
| 22:28 |
dokma |
ahhh I see |
| 22:28 |
dokma |
the value will be the same if the user clicks back and submit again |
| 22:30 |
ries |
yes |
| 22:31 |
dokma |
man, I'd be looking for this in other extensions for days |
| 22:31 |
dokma |
this irc channel is priceless |
| 22:31 |
dokma |
praise God for this channel!!! |
| 22:33 |
dokma |
ries |
| 22:33 |
dokma |
if I do this: '<form action="'.$this->pi_linkTP().'">' |
| 22:33 |
dokma |
won't pi_link put the whole <a href=... thing inside |
| 22:33 |
uschi |
perhaps we should praise ries? |
| 22:33 |
dokma |
instead of just the url ? |
| 22:33 |
dokma |
ahh that is non biblical uschi |
| 22:33 |
dokma |
even angels do not allow them selves to be praised |
| 22:34 |
ries |
dokma: there are functions (don't know from top of my head) that just returns the URI without the tags |
| 22:34 |
ries |
look into t3lib_div |
| 22:34 |
uschi |
no, but typ(o3)ical *g* |
| 22:34 |
dokma |
I see |
| 22:34 |
dokma |
heh |
| 22:34 |
dokma |
human nature uschi |
| 22:34 |
dokma |
people are on the general totally astranged from God |
| 22:35 |
uschi |
as long as they have friendlyness in heart and mind i do not care |
| 22:38 |
uschi |
neither do i, ries, but friends and friendlyness are important to me |
| 22:38 |
ries |
uschi: fully agreed... that what IS really counting |
| 22:38 |
uschi |
and i can share the motto of typo3: this "inspiring people to share" |
| 22:39 |
dokma |
that is clasical humanism |
| 22:39 |
ries |
well.... I am not sure if all developers in typo3 (including core) are doing just that... |
| 22:39 |
dokma |
the greatest plague of modern age |
| 22:39 |
uschi |
yes, i suppose i am a humanist |
| 22:39 |
dokma |
I hate humanism |
| 22:40 |
uschi |
do you hate me? |
| 22:40 |
dokma |
no |
| 22:40 |
uschi |
then this is ok |
| 22:40 |
uschi |
as long as you hate isms, that is find |
| 22:40 |
uschi |
fine, sorry |
| 22:40 |
dokma |
eh |
| 22:40 |
uschi |
and perhaps 'hate' is too strong |
| 22:41 |
dokma |
another popular generalisation |
| 22:41 |
dokma |
from my point of view I hate the things that God hates |
| 22:41 |
uschi |
doka, is your name a program? |
| 22:41 |
dokma |
as it is written 'fear of God is hatred for sin' |
| 22:41 |
dokma |
a program? |
| 22:41 |
dokma |
how do you meen? |
| 22:41 |
uschi |
a concept |
| 22:42 |
dokma |
no |
| 22:42 |
dokma |
just a nick |
| 22:42 |
dokma |
has no meaning |
| 22:42 |
dokma |
but now that you mentioned it |
| 22:42 |
uschi |
well, it HAS a meaning :) |
| 22:42 |
dokma |
I just might change it to something more meaningful |
| 22:42 |
dokma |
really? |
| 22:42 |
dokma |
in which language? |
| 22:42 |
uschi |
greek |
| 22:42 |
dokma |
really? |
| 22:42 |
dokma |
what is it? |
| 22:42 |
uschi |
sure |
| 22:42 |
uschi |
wait |
| 22:43 |
uschi |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dogma |
| 22:44 |
dokma |
ah, I know about Dogma |
| 22:45 |
dokma |
but we use more lively language to express the idea |
| 22:45 |
dokma |
foundational beliefs |
| 22:45 |
dokma |
or something like that |
| 22:46 |
uschi |
well, then i do have a foundational belief (spelled correctly) in humans |
| 22:48 |
dokma |
heh |
| 22:48 |
dokma |
my Bible tells me to not put my faith in humans |
| 22:48 |
uschi |
what? |
| 22:48 |
dokma |
because such people are in ugly trouble |
| 22:48 |
uschi |
which bible do you read??? |
| 22:48 |
dokma |
KJV |
| 22:49 |
dokma |
and my national translation |
| 22:49 |
uschi |
KJV??? |
| 22:49 |
dokma |
the cornerstone of christianity |
| 22:50 |
dokma |
Thus saith the LORD; Cursed be the man that trusteth in man, and maketh flesh his arm, and whose heart departeth from the LORD. |
| 22:50 |
uschi |
who needs cornerstones of christianity |
| 22:50 |
dokma |
King James |
| 22:50 |
uschi |
so distrust yourself |
| 22:50 |
uschi |
because you are human |
| 22:50 |
dokma |
I do |
| 22:51 |
uschi |
and the context of this passage you quoted is? |
| 22:51 |
ries |
I remember that I was totally upset (as a little boy) about they guy that wanted to burn his son on some mountain... |
| 22:52 |
uschi |
so was i |
| 22:52 |
uschi |
funny |
| 22:52 |
ries |
I remember that in teh end he didn't burn his sun, but the thought by itself was stupid |
| 22:52 |
ries |
(I think i was like 12 orso) |
| 22:52 |
uschi |
i was a little younger |
| 22:52 |
uschi |
and there was once an incidence |
| 22:52 |
ries |
and thus all they try to push me into the Catholic religion failed badly |
| 22:53 |
uschi |
:) |
| 22:54 |
uschi |
a little boy (he was about 4 or 5 or so) asked his grandma |
| 22:54 |
uschi |
"What is our LORD doing there on the wall, grandma?" |
| 22:55 |
uschi |
looking at that poor crucified wooden man on the wall |
| 22:56 |
uschi |
gandma, a farmers woman, of course, could not answer |
| 22:57 |
ries |
:) |
| 22:58 |
uschi |
since then, i never could look at the cross again without a sense of horror |
| 22:59 |
ries |
it is kinda weird.... |
| 22:59 |
uschi |
it was NOT a symbol anymore to me |
| 22:59 |
uschi |
it is |
| 23:00 |
uschi |
it is simply the depiction of torture |
| 23:02 |
uschi |
could happen to anyone, who is not protected by other humans |
| 23:02 |
uschi |
in different ways |
| 23:03 |
uschi |
like the crucification happened to those 6000 slaves along the via appia in the spartacus riot |
| 23:03 |
uschi |
imagine! |
| 23:09 |
ries |
I just see a man hanging there on wood... just crual |
| 23:09 |
ries |
That is not the correct way to remember anybody |
| 23:09 |
uschi |
that is right |
| 23:10 |
uschi |
you know about this spartacus riot? |
| 23:10 |
uschi |
after they were caught, 6000 slaves were crucified along the via Appia (one of the streets out of rome) |
| 23:11 |
uschi |
re dokma |
| 23:11 |
dokma |
I lost conn |
| 23:12 |
dokma |
didn't see any of your response |
| 23:15 |
dokma |
here I gues |
| 23:16 |
dokma |
well regarding catholic church |
| 23:16 |
dokma |
they are the biggest christian persecutors ever since the 4th century |
| 23:16 |
dokma |
I don't even think they are worthy of discusion |
| 23:16 |
dokma |
what I am talking about here |
| 23:16 |
dokma |
is that all people |
| 23:17 |
dokma |
are hoplessly lost sinners |
| 23:17 |
dokma |
worthy of hell |
| 23:17 |
dokma |
fortunately |
| 23:17 |
dokma |
Father is so crazy about us he provided a way back |
| 23:17 |
dokma |
can anyone see this? |
| 23:18 |
ries |
see what? |
| 23:19 |
dokma |
what I've been saying |
| 23:19 |
dokma |
it sounded like I dropped the conn again |
| 23:19 |
dokma |
ries you still here? |
| 23:19 |
ries |
I am here |
| 23:19 |
ries |
you where mumbling about ways back or something |
| 23:19 |
dokma |
I managed to get to t3lib_div::linkThisScript() |
| 23:20 |
dokma |
now I need to remove one get variable from that string |
| 23:20 |
dokma |
the last one needs to go out |
| 23:20 |
dokma |
do you know which function does that? |
| 23:23 |
dokma |
found it |
| 23:23 |
dokma |
it was in the same function as an array param |
| 23:23 |
dokma |
just leave the key empty and it unsets it |
| 23:24 |
dokma |
I was talking about salvation |
| 23:24 |
dokma |
you can joke about it |
| 23:24 |
dokma |
but you cannot escape the truth about your own lost state |
| 23:24 |
dokma |
Gods law clearly condemns you |
| 23:24 |
dokma |
you need salvation |
| 23:24 |
dokma |
and you need it desperately |
| 23:25 |
dokma |
and NOW! |
| 23:37 |
dokma |
hey ries |
| 23:40 |
ries |
dokma: I am virtually clueless what you are talking about |
| 23:42 |
dokma |
don't sell that to me |
| 23:42 |
dokma |
you can go to kinder garten with that story |
| 23:42 |
dokma |
you know you are a sinner |
| 23:42 |
dokma |
and that is a fact |
| 23:42 |
ries |
well... karina just made me a wonderful brownie (they are the best in town) so I will enjoy that now... |
| 23:43 |
dokma |
have fun |
| 23:43 |
dokma |
and enjoy your meal |
| 23:43 |
dokma |
I'll hit the sack |
| 23:43 |
dokma |
talk to you later |
| 23:43 |
ries |
seeya dude |