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#TYPO3 IRC log from : Sunday 3 June 2007

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08:11 koomi sunday favourite website? http://www.washlet.com/
10:05 andreasbalzer hello :)
10:19 uschi hi folks :))
10:19 andreasbalzer hi uschi :)
10:19 uschi hi andreasbalzer :)
10:26 andreasbalzer someone around with a huge problem?
10:28 koomi lol.
10:28 koomi you've got too much time on your hands andreasbalzer
10:30 andreasbalzer yes
10:30 andreasbalzer I'm just relearning how to code good PHP code.. My two years of Turbo Pascal ruined my skills ;)
10:31 andreasbalzer afterwards I'll look into the CORE API's and REF's...
10:31 theone1979 hello all
10:31 andreasbalzer ..of T3
10:31 andreasbalzer hello theone1979
10:31 theone1979 i am trying to do multilanguage in 3.8.1
10:31 theone1979 using the testsite
10:32 theone1979 but i cant seem to copy from the working "another site in the same db" into the "startpage"
10:32 andreasbalzer what error message do you get?
10:32 andreasbalzer what are you doing exaclty?
10:32 theone1979 none
10:32 andreasbalzer do you open the documents an d copy and past
10:33 andreasbalzer or do you try to move the elements and records within the pagetree?
10:33 theone1979 euh.. trying to have multilang pages in "startpage" instead of "antoher site.."
10:33 theone1979 copied the TS language settings
10:34 theone1979 am i explaining it ok?
10:34 andreasbalzer ah ok. I'll get it in a few seconds I think ;)
10:34 andreasbalzer what codes did you copy?
10:34 theone1979 copied Language settings template to startpage
10:35 andreasbalzer the whole template element or just parts of it?
10:35 theone1979 element
10:35 theone1979 whole
10:36 theone1979 but the flags on the bottom wont come up
10:36 andreasbalzer ok.. please open it and tell me whether is rootpage or clear constants or something similar is activated
10:36 andreasbalzer what flags on the bottom?
10:36 theone1979 you know the testsite typo3
10:37 theone1979 with startpage photomarathon
10:37 theone1979 etc
10:38 theone1979 i selected the earth symbol and clicked on list
10:38 theone1979 (earth symbol: TYPO3 Testsite )
10:39 theone1979 there i have Website Language : Danish and German
10:40 koomi theone1979: did you read the frontend localization guide?
10:40 theone1979 do i need to?
10:40 koomi one of the more readable docs in typo3's library
10:40 koomi jup.
10:40 koomi since you want more than one language in your frontend
10:41 koomi i'd suggest reading it
10:41 theone1979 but i just want to make a copy of an excisting install in the same db
10:41 koomi explains basic translation concepts
10:41 andreasbalzer theone1979: i don't know the templates of the testsite package.. sry
10:41 koomi huh?
10:41 koomi theone1979: pure mysql copy or a backup?
10:41 koomi theone1979: you can export a page tree
10:41 theone1979 i have a working installation
10:41 theone1979 just want to implement it on another page in the same db
10:42 koomi what's "another page in the same db"?
10:42 koomi different database on the same host?
10:42 theone1979 the strange thing is: i think i do the exact thing as the page where it is implemented
10:42 theone1979 nope
10:42 theone1979 same db same host
10:42 theone1979 but the flags on the bottom wont appear
10:43 theone1979 mm
10:43 theone1979 is the language thing also in the template.html ?
10:44 theone1979 because i cant seem to find the BUSINESS template
10:45 theone1979 where are the standard templates located?
10:45 theone1979 where are the standard templates located?
10:52 theone1979 ls
10:53 theone1979 does anyone know where the standard builtin templates are located?
10:53 uschi what do you mean by located?
10:53 uschi you mean, where you can add them?
10:54 theone1979 well... for example the BUSINESS template
10:54 theone1979 i want to have a look in the template file
10:54 theone1979 for multilanguage pages..
10:55 uschi they are stored in the db
10:55 uschi wait i have to restart my browser
10:55 theone1979 cant seem to make it work with a new page
10:55 theone1979 k
10:58 null_0 they reside into ~media/uploads/$yourtheme
10:59 null_0 the green, and creative copenhagen templates... are there, but business, i don't know
10:59 theone1979 i havent seen it.. mmm
11:41 tomaj is there someone who has experiences with typo3 running on postgre?
12:21 dokma hey ppl
12:21 dokma can someone tell me what does the star do in here?
12:21 dokma stylesheet*.css
12:22 theone1979 this file is in a dir?
12:23 dokma in ts setup
12:23 theone1979 then its a variable
12:23 dokma page.includeCSS.file1 = stylesheet*.css
12:23 theone1979 i think
12:24 dokma I saw Kasper put that star in one of the tutorial videos
12:24 theone1979 mmm ok..
12:24 dokma he said smthng like 'to bullet proof .... we put the star here'
12:24 dokma but what does the star do alluded me
12:30 koomi would include stylesheet_1.css or stylesheet_200.css
12:30 koomi it's a wildcard
12:30 dokma koomi
12:30 dokma what if it resolves to more files?
12:31 koomi then you're screwed :)
12:31 koomi i wouldnt use wildcards
12:31 dokma heh
12:31 dokma I just found Kasper talking about it
12:31 dokma he said 'to make this bulletproof so I can copy my templates to other websites'
12:31 dokma what was that supposed to mean?
12:32 koomi that's because typo3 adds _$number to copies when you export/import
12:32 koomi if you export your pagetree with template and files and import them again the filenames change
12:32 dokma ahhh
12:32 dokma I see
12:33 dokma tx
12:49 ries koomi: I always wondered about the *
12:50 ries I never used it myself, nor pagetree import/export worked for me
12:50 ries But that might be because I am suing templavoila
12:58 null_0 ...reasonably... :)
13:38 dokma ppl
13:38 dokma how do I add the 'clear all cache' link
13:38 dokma for admin user?
14:16 dokma how do I import croatian be language pack?
14:16 dokma I can't find it
14:42 dokma found it
15:03 monis_raz hello can any one help me
15:03 monis_raz is it poessible... generate a list of latest PAGES (instead of tt_news entries) using the sitemap with regular updated pages preference
16:03 christian______ hey monis_raz still here?
16:50 byguigui hello, i'm new to typo3, and have a problem with templavoila, i created 2 different DS, with eachone TO, and now.. i have the "no template found" error, any idea?
16:54 delmonico how can I make a menu like "foo | bar | baz" i.e. have a different wrap for the last link?
17:33 monis_raz hello Uschi!
17:33 monis_raz are u there?
17:55 Phlogiston 4Random Fortune: DOS: n., A small annoying boot virus that causes random spontaneous system crashes, usually just before saving a massive project. Easily cured by UNIX. See also MS-DOS, IBM-DOS, DR-DOS. -- David Vicker's .plan
18:01 dokma phlogi
18:01 dokma u doin ext programming?
18:02 dokma phlogiston
18:02 Phlogiston dokma: jap why?
18:02 Phlogiston dokma: but not on sundays :D
18:02 dokma hehe
18:02 dokma I just started
18:02 dokma and I have a q
18:02 Phlogiston dokma: ha ok
18:02 dokma my fronted plugin has one table
18:03 dokma and I need to enable my fronted user to delete records from it
18:03 dokma now I can easily do this with a simple query
18:03 Phlogiston dokma: yes :)
18:03 dokma but I realized that there is this thing called typo3 api
18:03 Phlogiston dokma: yes
18:03 dokma should I do it via some api function
18:03 dokma or just hit it with a query ?
18:03 Phlogiston dokma: just read the article on t3.org ok?
18:03 dokma which one?
18:03 Phlogiston sed
18:03 Phlogiston sec
18:04 dokma I saw all the videos about ext programming
18:04 dokma twice
18:04 dokma and followed them through by programming my ext along side
18:05 Phlogiston http://typo3.org/documentation/document-library/core-documentation/doc_core_inside/4.1.0/view/3/6/
18:06 Phlogiston hmm thats not the right one sorry
18:06 Phlogiston i can't find it
18:06 monis_raz hell
18:06 monis_raz hello
18:07 monis_raz can u suggest that how to "generate a list of latest PAGES (instead of tt_news entries) using the sitemap with regular updated pages preference"
18:07 Phlogiston damn I really can't find it
18:08 dokma hmm
18:08 dokma what was in the article?
18:08 monis_raz hello Phlogiston
18:09 Phlogiston hello
18:09 Phlogiston dokma: exactly what you need
18:09 monis_raz can you help me a bit Phlogiston
18:09 dokma arghhh!!
18:10 monis_raz can u suggest that how to "generate a list of latest PAGES (instead of tt_news entries) using the sitemap with regular updated pages preference"
18:11 Phlogiston dokma: wait I'm still searching :D
18:11 dokma cool
18:11 dokma I'm looking for it too
18:11 Phlogiston got it!
18:11 Phlogiston http://typo3.org/documentation/document-library/core-documentation/doc_core_cgl/4.1.0/view/1/4/
18:12 Phlogiston monis_raz: I think you can do that with TS
18:13 monis_raz can u suggest me how? if possible i am in real rouble
18:13 monis_raz *trouble
18:13 Phlogiston oh nice: http://www.typo3-media.com/blog/article/typoscript-approvements-in-typo3-4.html
18:13 Phlogiston monis_raz: hmm what do you exactly need? A list of the last updated pages?
18:14 monis_raz yup
18:17 monis_raz are you looking into it?
18:17 Phlogiston monis_raz: look for updated: http://typo3.org/documentation/document-library/references/doc_core_tsref/4.1.0/view/8/11/#id3651051
18:17 monis_raz ok
18:17 Phlogiston monis_raz: I hope you can use TS :9
18:17 Phlogiston I'm off soon
18:18 monis_raz ok
18:20 Phlogiston monis_raz: good luck... I'll be here tomorrow all the time btw :)
18:20 monis_raz thanks for your help, by the way i m stiil stuck
18:21 Phlogiston monis_raz: why are you stuck? Do you understand TS?
18:21 monis_raz I do, but i could'nt find the solution to my problem
18:21 monis_raz in that reference
18:22 monis_raz u have given
18:23 monis_raz still thanks for your kind help :-)
18:25 Phlogiston monis_raz: hmm you can do a menu with the special property set to updated? This will generate links of the last pages edited... thats not what you want?
18:26 Phlogiston monis_raz: http://www.typo3wizard.com/en/snippets/cool-stuff-typoscript/create-top-10-last-updated-contents.html
18:27 Phlogiston monis_raz: http://www.typo3wizard.com/de/snippets/menus/last-updated.html
18:27 Phlogiston monis_raz: or check even that extension: Last update
18:28 monis_raz you are really well equipped with knowledge and feel of cooperation
18:28 monis_raz just great to see you
18:29 monis_raz thanks a lot!
18:29 monis_raz i will try it and let you know tomarrow if unable solved
18:29 Phlogiston monis_raz: hey no problem! I was here the last 2 months and get a lot of help so its time to me to share what I learned about typo3 :)
18:29 Phlogiston monis_raz: yes no problem, good luck I'm really of now :-D
18:29 monis_raz bye take care
18:30 monis_raz catch u tommorow
18:30 Phlogiston monis_raz: yeah cu
18:31 monis_raz cu
18:46 Phlogiston dokma: did you see http://typo3.org/documentation/document-library/core-documentation/doc_core_cgl/4.1.0/view/1/4/?
18:56 uschi hi folks :)
18:58 monis_raz hello
18:59 monis_raz Uschi i was just waiting for u
18:59 uschi just having a look at your query
18:59 monis_raz aah thanx
19:27 jananne I can't figger out how to make a FE User that can edit content. In the tutorials it is explained very confused. What steps do i have to take?
19:28 jananne Any one?
19:35 koomi jananne: what tutorial?
19:47 dokma hey phlogi I just came back from dinner
19:47 dokma will take a look now
19:49 jananne koomi, just the modern template building tut.
19:51 koomi jananne: do you mean frontend user (people browsing your website) or backend user (people who can login in the backend)
19:58 jananne i mean fronted
19:58 jananne frontend users *
19:59 jananne koomi: I can't figger out why my Front End users can not edit any content
20:09 koomi jananne: to let your frontend user edit content they need special permissions - and probably you need an extension.
20:22 ries monis_raz: it's possible, but not easy... they might be an extension out there that can do it already
20:41 uschi hey ries :)
20:41 ries hey uschi
20:42 uschi is gerards still with you, or did he go home already?
20:48 ries uschi: I am not sure where he is right now (sleeping) ?
20:48 ries But I think he is currently in signapore
20:49 uschi hm, i have not seen him recently
20:49 uschi so he went home
20:50 ries uschi: he first went to the USA for a small 1 week holliday
20:50 ries then back home
20:52 uschi and left you all alone, poor ries
20:52 ries uschi: well.. he left karina here :)
20:52 ries and since we are going to work together I will speak to him on a almost daily base
20:53 uschi he will miss her food, as he told me
20:53 uschi and, of course, karina is most important to you
21:00 dokma Phlogiston
21:00 dokma how do I access pi vars?
21:00 dokma argh...
21:00 dokma phlogi is gone
21:00 uschi poor dogma
21:06 ries dokma: $this -> piVars['']; from your extension
21:07 dokma ries
21:07 dokma tx
21:07 dokma I just tried to use that
21:07 dokma however my variable is not there
21:07 dokma this is how I passed it via URL
21:08 dokma $this->pi_linkTP($this->pi_getLL('pi_list_create_new'), array('create_new' => 1))
21:11 ries can you give me a sample how your get params look like?
21:12 ries generated by pi_linkTP
21:13 dokma http://devel/index.php?id=1&type=1&no_cache=1&create_new=1
21:17 dokma ries ?
21:17 ries alright...
21:17 ries I thought so already... it's not your fault, typo3 is not clear on how to use the API correctly
21:18 ries $this->pi_linkTP($this->pi_getLL('pi_list_create_new'), array($this -> PLUGINNAME . '[create_new]' => 1))
21:18 ries try that
21:19 ries $this->pi_linkTP($this->pi_getLL('pi_list_create_new'), array($this -> prefixId . '[create_new]' => 1))
21:19 ries You need to end up with somehting like : http://devel/index.php?id=1&type=1&no_cache=1&myplugin_pi1[create_new]=1
21:20 dokma ahhh
21:24 dokma ries, it works now
21:33 ries dokma: typo3's documentation about that is plain horrible...
21:33 ries sometimes you DO need to prefix, sometimes you don't
21:34 ries I always yse the function with the 'keepPIvars' option
21:34 ries because that one also seems to handle cHash properly
22:02 dokma ries
22:03 dokma did you write some of the extensions available in the ter?
22:03 ries yes
22:03 ries although they are old...
22:04 ries they start with rvt_ or ltg_
22:04 dokma cool
22:04 dokma so you are a contributor
22:04 dokma too bad typo3 is so poorly documented
22:04 dokma at least in the extension development arena
22:05 dokma duh
22:05 dokma I just realized I need to create a form within my extension
22:05 dokma questions started popping up
22:05 dokma how do I name my vars?
22:06 dokma how is the action string constructed
22:06 dokma how do I prevent double submitting
22:06 dokma I feel like I am learning the whole web programming all over again
22:25 ries dokma: vars are named like this : <input name="myplugin_pi1[myvarname]" />
22:25 ries same as with get vars
22:25 ries teh action string is basicly the URL of the current page, then when your plugin get's executed you will find them in piVars
22:26 ries double submitting is prevented with for example a random (timer) value as a hidden value in your form
22:26 ries then simply check in a session if the form was double submitted
22:27 dokma I guess all but the random timer
22:27 dokma I save the timer in the session
22:27 dokma how do I tell by the time if the submission is a double or not?
22:28 ries on first submit you store your random value in a session,
22:28 ries then we you get a second submit you check teh session for the same value
22:28 ries if it's there you know it's a double submit
22:28 dokma ahhh I see
22:28 dokma the value will be the same if the user clicks back and submit again
22:30 ries yes
22:31 dokma man, I'd be looking for this in other extensions for days
22:31 dokma this irc channel is priceless
22:31 dokma praise God for this channel!!!
22:33 dokma ries
22:33 dokma if I do this: '<form action="'.$this->pi_linkTP().'">'
22:33 dokma won't pi_link put the whole <a href=... thing inside
22:33 uschi perhaps we should praise ries?
22:33 dokma instead of just the url ?
22:33 dokma ahh that is non biblical uschi
22:33 dokma even angels do not allow them selves to be praised
22:34 ries dokma: there are functions (don't know from top of my head) that just returns the URI without the tags
22:34 ries look into t3lib_div
22:34 uschi no, but typ(o3)ical *g*
22:34 dokma I see
22:34 dokma heh
22:34 dokma human nature uschi
22:34 dokma people are on the general totally astranged from God
22:35 uschi as long as they have friendlyness in heart and mind i do not care
22:38 uschi neither do i, ries, but friends and friendlyness are important to me
22:38 ries uschi: fully agreed... that what IS really counting
22:38 uschi and i can share the motto of typo3: this "inspiring people to share"
22:39 dokma that is clasical humanism
22:39 ries well.... I am not sure if all developers in typo3 (including core) are doing just that...
22:39 dokma the greatest plague of modern age
22:39 uschi yes, i suppose i am a humanist
22:39 dokma I hate humanism
22:40 uschi do you hate me?
22:40 dokma no
22:40 uschi then this is ok
22:40 uschi as long as you hate isms, that is find
22:40 uschi fine, sorry
22:40 dokma eh
22:40 uschi and perhaps 'hate' is too strong
22:41 dokma another popular generalisation
22:41 dokma from my point of view I hate the things that God hates
22:41 uschi doka, is your name a program?
22:41 dokma as it is written 'fear of God is hatred for sin'
22:41 dokma a program?
22:41 dokma how do you meen?
22:41 uschi a concept
22:42 dokma no
22:42 dokma just a nick
22:42 dokma has no meaning
22:42 dokma but now that you mentioned it
22:42 uschi well, it HAS a meaning :)
22:42 dokma I just might change it to something more meaningful
22:42 dokma really?
22:42 dokma in which language?
22:42 uschi greek
22:42 dokma really?
22:42 dokma what is it?
22:42 uschi sure
22:42 uschi wait
22:43 uschi http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dogma
22:44 dokma ah, I know about Dogma
22:45 dokma but we use more lively language to express the idea
22:45 dokma foundational beliefs
22:45 dokma or something like that
22:46 uschi well, then i do have a foundational belief (spelled correctly) in humans
22:48 dokma heh
22:48 dokma my Bible tells me to not put my faith in humans
22:48 uschi what?
22:48 dokma because such people are in ugly trouble
22:48 uschi which bible do you read???
22:48 dokma KJV
22:49 dokma and my national translation
22:49 uschi KJV???
22:49 dokma the cornerstone of christianity
22:50 dokma Thus saith the LORD; Cursed be the man that trusteth in man, and maketh flesh his arm, and whose heart departeth from the LORD.
22:50 uschi who needs cornerstones of christianity
22:50 dokma King James
22:50 uschi so distrust yourself
22:50 uschi because you are human
22:50 dokma I do
22:51 uschi and the context of this passage you quoted is?
22:51 ries I remember that I was totally upset (as a little boy) about they guy that wanted to burn his son on some mountain...
22:52 uschi so was i
22:52 uschi funny
22:52 ries I remember that in teh end he didn't burn his sun, but the thought by itself was stupid
22:52 ries (I think i was like 12 orso)
22:52 uschi i was a little younger
22:52 uschi and there was once an incidence
22:52 ries and thus all they try to push me into the Catholic religion failed badly
22:53 uschi :)
22:54 uschi a little boy (he was about 4 or 5 or so) asked his grandma
22:54 uschi "What is our LORD doing there on the wall, grandma?"
22:55 uschi looking at that poor crucified wooden man on the wall
22:56 uschi gandma, a farmers woman, of course, could not answer
22:57 ries :)
22:58 uschi since then, i never could look at the cross again without a sense of horror
22:59 ries it is kinda weird....
22:59 uschi it was NOT a symbol anymore to me
22:59 uschi it is
23:00 uschi it is simply the depiction of torture
23:02 uschi could happen to anyone, who is not protected by other humans
23:02 uschi in different ways
23:03 uschi like the crucification happened to those 6000 slaves along the via appia in the spartacus riot
23:03 uschi imagine!
23:09 ries I just see a man hanging there on wood... just crual
23:09 ries That is not the correct way to remember anybody
23:09 uschi that is right
23:10 uschi you know about this spartacus riot?
23:10 uschi after they were caught, 6000 slaves were crucified along the via Appia (one of the streets out of rome)
23:11 uschi re dokma
23:11 dokma I lost conn
23:12 dokma didn't see any of your response
23:15 dokma here I gues
23:16 dokma well regarding catholic church
23:16 dokma they are the biggest christian persecutors ever since the 4th century
23:16 dokma I don't even think they are worthy of discusion
23:16 dokma what I am talking about here
23:16 dokma is that all people
23:17 dokma are hoplessly lost sinners
23:17 dokma worthy of hell
23:17 dokma fortunately
23:17 dokma Father is so crazy about us he provided a way back
23:17 dokma can anyone see this?
23:18 ries see what?
23:19 dokma what I've been saying
23:19 dokma it sounded like I dropped the conn again
23:19 dokma ries you still here?
23:19 ries I am here
23:19 ries you where mumbling about ways back or something
23:19 dokma I managed to get to t3lib_div::linkThisScript()
23:20 dokma now I need to remove one get variable from that string
23:20 dokma the last one needs to go out
23:20 dokma do you know which function does that?
23:23 dokma found it
23:23 dokma it was in the same function as an array param
23:23 dokma just leave the key empty and it unsets it
23:24 dokma I was talking about salvation
23:24 dokma you can joke about it
23:24 dokma but you cannot escape the truth about your own lost state
23:24 dokma Gods law clearly condemns you
23:24 dokma you need salvation
23:24 dokma and you need it desperately
23:25 dokma and NOW!
23:37 dokma hey ries
23:40 ries dokma: I am virtually clueless what you are talking about
23:42 dokma don't sell that to me
23:42 dokma you can go to kinder garten with that story
23:42 dokma you know you are a sinner
23:42 dokma and that is a fact
23:42 ries well... karina just made me a wonderful brownie (they are the best in town) so I will enjoy that now...
23:43 dokma have fun
23:43 dokma and enjoy your meal
23:43 dokma I'll hit the sack
23:43 dokma talk to you later
23:43 ries seeya dude

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