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#TYPO3 IRC log from : Wednesday 6 June 2007

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00:11 tansta wow
00:11 tansta that's alot of TS to get it to the content
00:11 tansta i can just copy and paste that right ? :D
00:12 just2b sure.. if you need it? i also copied most of it.. but needed to modify it
00:12 tansta will your documentation show me what to do ?
00:13 just2b for the thing into tt_content or for the other things?
00:13 tansta for tt_content
00:13 just2b you know how to add images to the CE "text with image"?=
00:13 tansta yes
00:14 tansta :)
00:14 tansta is that a trick question ?
00:14 just2b no, i am serious
00:14 tansta hehehe
00:14 just2b you know how to change sizes in the CE and you know how to activate a checkbox?
00:14 tansta yep
00:15 just2b and you know how to add the ts of an ext to "static ts"?
00:15 tansta static TS ?
00:16 tansta is that constant ?
00:16 tansta or just plain TS using info/modify module ?
00:16 just2b template > edit whole record.. where you add css_styledcontent
00:16 tansta oh yes yes
00:16 tansta that's easy
00:16 just2b so this is all you need
00:16 tansta :)
00:16 just2b in the reverse order gg
00:16 tansta oh cool
00:16 tansta yep
00:17 tansta piece of cake :)
00:17 just2b for me? yeah plz g
00:17 tansta hehehe
00:26 ries just2b: nice work
00:26 just2b thx
00:26 ries just2b: did you design it?
00:27 just2b no, smoothgallery already existed before
00:27 just2b but still enough to do
00:28 tansta how do you allow back-end user to clear cache ?
00:28 just2b there is an ext for that
00:29 tansta there is ?
00:29 just2b there is
00:29 just2b :)
00:29 tansta i thought we can use TS for it
00:29 tansta options.clearCache.all = 1
00:29 just2b with ext you get the link
00:29 just2b everything else won't be found.. my opinion..
00:30 tansta what do you mean wont be found ?
00:30 tansta oh you mean the documentation ?
00:30 just2b there is this option in the dropdown where you can clear cache for 1 page...
00:30 just2b know what i mean?
00:30 tansta oh okay
00:42 just2b ext is on its way
01:27 tansta just2b: is the ext up yet ?
01:30 just2b up yes
01:31 just2b 04[02:48] just2b__: 01ext is on its way
01:32 tansta oh :D
01:32 just2b yeah is in ter
01:32 tansta great
01:33 just2b i guess time for bed for me
01:33 just2b kind of late
01:36 just2b good night
01:46 tansta good night mate
01:46 tansta sleep well
01:46 tansta and do more ext next day :D
02:54 avagraphique any ideas why this emailform not working on my site. it works on another install (4.0.0) but my other install (4.0.6) it does not send. Install tool email check verifiec email is working...
02:54 avagraphique http://phpfi.com/239733
02:55 avagraphique i cannot figure it out
04:30 d|g âñåì ïî ïðèâåòó =)
04:30 d|g hi all =)
04:55 dax77 hi @all
04:56 dax77 good morning uschi :)
04:56 uschi morning dax77 :)
05:30 just2b__ good morning
05:31 dax77 hi just2b__
05:32 just2b__ dax, es ist vollbracht, it is done ;)
05:33 dax77 in TER?
05:34 just2b__ yes
05:34 dax77 cool :)
05:34 dax77 so you solved the userfunc problem?
05:34 just2b__ this is so cool > http://www.rggooglemap.com/dev/rgsmoothgallery/smoothgallery-in-text-with-image.html > integration in tt_content
05:51 dax77 just2b__: geil :)
05:51 just2b__ yeah... some nights with quite a few sleep
05:52 dax77 you are still young :)
05:52 just2b__ but it works like charme.. only not with DAM but i am really not motivated for this dam(n) thing
05:52 just2b__ yeah 3h is still not much tonight ;)
06:04 nikolo hi all
06:05 nikolo can anybody tell me how to insert a line feed/ carriage return in the menu page title
06:05 nikolo ??
06:07 nikolo anybody home?
06:07 dax77 hi nikolo
06:07 dax77 try \n
06:08 dax77 or a <br/> ;)
06:08 just2b__ take <br
06:14 nikolo nop
06:14 nikolo nothing works
06:14 nikolo :(
06:23 nikolo anything else?
06:26 koomi moin
06:27 koomi nikolo: why don't you use the subtitle for the new line?
06:30 nikolo Angebote für Menschen \n mit Behinderungen
06:30 nikolo this is the whole word
06:30 nikolo and i m using it as gmenu
06:30 nikolo graphical menu
06:30 just2b__ yeah you should tell that
06:32 koomi hrhr gmenu on a page for people with disabbilities
06:33 just2b__ koomi yeah and i hope a cool font :D
06:34 Jigal good morning #typo3
06:34 floxx hello world :)
06:35 just2b__ hi jigal and floxx
06:37 Jigal hi floxx, just2b__
06:38 floxx last but not least: hi jigal, just2b__
06:40 Phlogiston morning guys
06:40 Phlogiston just2b__: what ext? =)
06:41 just2b__ Phlogiston rgsmoothgallery
06:41 just2b__ manual > http://typo3.org/documentation/document-library/extension-manuals/rgsmoothgallery/1.0.0/view/1/1/#id3569799
06:53 Jigal just2b__: looks very good! The thumbnails scroller does have issues in IE6 :-( Sometimes the mouseover doesn't show the image in normal colour, but shows a completely black 'image'...
06:53 Phlogiston_ good morning everybody
07:00 just2b__ Jigal could be... maybe i get out how to fix
07:01 just2b__ 100 people came from the manuals today and nobody made an entry.. ;)
07:02 Jigal just2b__: I checked the JonDesign site and there is the same problem...
07:03 Phlogiston_ whats the best way to include a flash in my page?
07:04 just2b__ jigal.. this related? IE not showing first image until *all* downloaded.
07:09 Jigal just2b__: is it implemented as background image in CSS? Then IE6 won't cache it and needs to reload it every time it's needed. There might be a solution for it; haven't searched...
07:09 floxx Phlogiston_: search for flash in ext repository
07:09 Phlogiston_ floxx: I'm using on now thanks
07:09 monis_raz hi Phlogiston
07:09 just2b__ jigal don't know yet..
07:10 just2b__ you use ie6 all the time or jsut for testing?
07:10 Jigal just2b__: somehow XP hasn't installed an update to IE7 yet...
07:11 monis_raz Phlogiston how can I open sitemap pages on the mother template?
07:11 monis_raz i m talking about front end
07:11 Jigal just2b__: and at home I still use Win2k for which IE7 will not be made availabel...
07:12 just2b__ yeah if there is a hack out there, i will implement it but as you know.. it is a problem of IE
07:14 monis_raz just2b can you help me?
07:14 just2b__ with what? sitemap not in new window?
07:14 monis_raz yeah
07:15 just2b__ yeah i can
07:15 monis_raz great!
07:15 just2b__ constants!
07:15 just2b__ PAGE_TARGET =
07:15 just2b__ content.pageFrameObj =
07:15 just2b__ styles.content.links.extTarget =
07:15 just2b__ styles.content.mailform.target =
07:15 just2b__ styles.content.searchresult.resultTarget =
07:15 just2b__ styles.content.links.target =
07:15 just2b__ styles.content.searchresult.target =
07:16 Phlogiston_ just2b__: do you know nopase? =)
07:16 just2b__ no
07:18 monis_raz thanx just2b :-)
07:19 Phlogiston_ just2b__: phpfi.com :-p
07:20 just2b__ Phlogiston_ are you complaining?
07:22 Phlogiston_ just2b__: are you serious?
07:22 just2b__ no just not sure what you want
07:24 Phlogiston_ just2b__: Maybe its better if you use pastebin... especially if more ppl are here :)
07:25 just2b__ yeah do it often, i know how to behave
07:25 Phlogiston_ just2b__: of couse... :)
07:26 Jigal Phlogiston_: if he really starts flooding he will be kicked out automagically ;-)
07:26 Phlogiston_ Jigal: ah very nice
07:26 just2b__ Phlogiston_ where you are swiss?
07:27 Phlogiston_ just2b__: hihi why? right now in zurich, and you ösi?
07:27 just2b__ austria.. but first i thougt you are german.. but ot
07:27 Phlogiston_ hehe kein problem )
07:29 Phlogiston_ hmm strange sometimes typo3 ignores my ATagParams
07:30 just2b__ Phlogiston_ i guess it is on the wrong place
07:30 Phlogiston_ just2b__: hmm no now it works again :)
07:31 Phlogiston_ did anyone already try out that new typoscript editor?
07:31 Phlogiston_ http://www.yeebase.com/news/news-anzeigen/article/486/
07:32 delmonico mornin'
07:33 delmonico anyone knows how to prevent tt_news subheader from being wrapped inside a <p class=bodytext>? tired a lot of displayList.subheaderWrap stuff, but can't make it work
07:35 Phlogiston_ delmonico: plugin.tt_news.displayList.subheader_stdWrap.wrap should work
07:35 Phlogiston_ you can do > if you want to remove it completely
07:37 just2b__ dam it, my site has been taken offline
07:37 Phlogiston_ delmonico:
07:37 Phlogiston_ # unset general_stdWrap
07:37 Phlogiston_ // general_stdWrap >
07:38 Phlogiston_ delmonico: maybe you need that too
07:38 Phlogiston_ just2b__: why? too much pron on it?
07:38 delmonico for some reason doing plugin.tt_news.displayList.subheader_stdWrap.wrap > has no effect
07:38 delmonico settint it to a different value works, but still inside the <p bodytext>
07:38 alexwx helo
07:38 alexwx where can i find extension error logs? about mysql and so on
07:39 just2b__ Phlogiston_ made a bit high load
07:39 Phlogiston_ just2b__: hehe bad hoster then
07:40 just2b__ no, kind of hack or something.. hoster is top.. just skyped with tem
07:42 Phlogiston_ just2b__: hehe nice
07:44 delmonico hmmm this sucks. btw, what whas the tsline to disable caching completely?
07:44 just2b__ config.no_cache = 1 i guess
07:45 delmonico thanks
07:48 delmonico ah got it
07:48 delmonico plugin.tt_news.general_stdWrap >
07:48 delmonico not only general_foo.wrap >
07:48 just2b__ a htaccess freak out there?
07:50 Phlogiston_ delmonico: yes I told you :-p
07:50 jan___ hello
07:50 Phlogiston_ just2b__: not freak what do you need?
07:50 delmonico hehe yeah I accidently had displayList.general_foo
07:50 jan___ ... can someone help me with the $strPfad = PATH_site.'uploads/tx_oooo/'.$data['picture']; ...
07:50 jan___ and the cimage object
07:51 jan___ $data['picture'] = $this->config['cObj']->cImage($strPfad,$imageConf);
07:56 alexwx i have there one mysql error in a BE in list view, i know from extension it comes, but i doknt know why, can i somehow debugnig it? thank you
07:58 Jigal Phlogiston_: TS editor looks nice! haven't tried it, but did make a bookmark for later
07:59 delmonico can I split my ts code into several sections? my setup for this page is 200 lines now, thats really ugly
08:00 Phlogiston_ Jigal: yes... But I'm already using an editor (kate) with syntax highlighting. But the autocompletetion looks awesome! Although you need to patch typo3 for it right? I don't like that :)
08:00 Phlogiston_ delmonico: thats why I use an external file + a nice editor with syntax highliting
08:00 Phlogiston_ delmonico: but you can also include TS from different sites
08:02 delmonico Phlogiston_: how can I store it in an external file? would be great to use vim to edit it
08:02 Jigal Phlogiston_: you can't always use a "nice editor" for remote editing...
08:02 Phlogiston_ delmonico: yes exaclty :)
08:02 Phlogiston_ Jigal: of course :)
08:03 delmonico Jigal: with a real operating system, you can ;)
08:03 delmonico just mount your servers typo3 folder and use your usual programs
08:04 Phlogiston_ delmonico: exactly :) of sftp + kde :D
08:04 Phlogiston_ delmonico: <INCLUDE_TYPOSCRIPT: source="FILE: fileadmin/template/main/TS-setup.php">
08:04 delmonico yeah kioslaves are cool too ;) prefer sshfs though because it works with non-kde programs as well
08:04 delmonico cool, thanks
08:04 Phlogiston_ delmonico: hmm I always had troubles with those mount stuff
08:04 Phlogiston_ but I did not try sshfs yet...
08:05 Phlogiston_ delmonico: I used fuse with normal ftp.... and that hanged so many times it was like in windows... I even had to reboot
08:05 delmonico well sshfs is a fuse module too, works very well for me
08:05 Jigal still... a better TS editor in TYPO3 couldn't hurt...
08:05 delmonico but there is at least one other sshfs-like thing out there which brings its own kernel module
08:06 Phlogiston_ delmonico: what happens if the connection is suddenly interupted?
08:06 Phlogiston_ Jigal: ah of course :) hehe
08:06 delmonico Jigal: I think konqueror and firefox are able to embed better editors than the default textarea
08:07 delmonico Phlogiston_: don't know, guess you have to do -o remount then
08:07 Phlogiston_ delmonico: hmm hopefully that works :-p
08:07 delmonico can't remember any neccesary reboot
08:07 FloLeBlanc Does anyone know where my onload could vanish? $GLOBALS['TSFE']->JSeventFuncCalls['onload']['GalleryAdmin.setPageID();']= "GalleryAdmin.setPageID('".$GLOBALS['TSFE']->id."');"; in the extension jm_gallery, but in class.tslib_pagegen.php the array is empty :(
08:08 FloLeBlanc therefore no onload in the body tag is createc
08:08 FloLeBlanc d
08:08 delmonico gotta grab some breakfast, cya later
08:10 koomi recommendations on a css book?
08:10 koomi i think i can order one or two
08:10 koomi eric meyer's on css or something?
08:11 FloLeBlanc de.selfhtml.org? :)
08:11 Phlogiston_ what mail form would you recommend' I once read about one but can't find it any longer... it used hidden fields agains spam bots... anyone knows its name?
08:11 FloLeBlanc phlogiston: I use mailformplus with captcha
08:12 Phlogiston_ FloLeBlanc: thats why the other sounded so interesting... I don't like that ugly captcha ;)
08:13 Phlogiston_ oh damn I really can't find it. I think it was a new extension
08:14 FloLeBlanc phlogiston: then change the font and make a beautiful one :)
08:17 Phlogiston_ FloLeBlanc: nope... I want that extenion. I'm sure I read about it... or maybe it was just a dream? =)
08:18 Phlogiston_ wtf: http://typo3.org/extensions/repository/view/void/0.0.3/
08:19 FloLeBlanc :)
08:19 just2b__ website is back on
08:19 Phlogiston_ FOUND it :-D
08:19 Phlogiston_ it called contact form not mail form thats the reason ,)
08:26 alexwx i have there one mysql error in a BE in list view, i know from what extension it comes, but i dont know why, can i somehow debugi it? thank you
08:33 FloLeBlanc does anyone know if TS can access $GLOBALS["TSFE"]->JSeventFuncCalls ?
08:34 Jigal FloLeBlanc: the "TSFE" part of it suggests that it should be possible...
08:37 FloLeBlanc ah ok thank you
08:37 FloLeBlanc everything with TSFE is editable by TS?
08:38 just2b__ after yesterday i know: everything is possible with ts
08:38 FloLeBlanc hehe
08:40 koomi damnit. how would i override the wrap of a stdheader if header_layout = 2
08:42 jan___ how could i receive the htdocs rootdir (relativ) ... /myServer/myTypo3/index.php <<-- i want to get /myTypo3/ ...
08:42 Jigal FloLeBlanc: the PAGE object has several properties that might influence your settings: bodyTag, bodyTagCObject, bodyTagAdd, bgImg
08:43 FloLeBlanc so the extension is processed prior to my TS?
08:44 Jigal FloLeBlanc: a small line in the TSRef doc: "Most of this codes is executed in the PHP-script pagegen.php"
08:44 FloLeBlanc ah but it would be easy to check if my TS is the cause for the onload handlers not to appear. if I take a demo template for the gallery administration and it works nonetheless hmm
08:44 katie hi guys
08:45 FloLeBlanc Jigal: I checked pagegen the problem is that the array in which the calls should be listed is empty in the pagegen file
08:45 katie can any body tell me how u insert line feed in a page title?
08:45 FloLeBlanc in the jm_gallery ext it gets assigned (this works I checked it) => then there's a black hole for me.. what happens in between?`=> in pagegen it is empty
08:46 katie Angebote für Menschen \n mit Behinderungen
08:46 katie i m using this string in a GMENU
08:47 FloLeBlanc I didn't find any line with grep that uses this variable ($GLOBALS['TSFE']->JSeventFuncCalls['onload']) so my idea was that my ts tampers with the array, but I tried a standard template now and it didn't work either :(
08:47 just2b__ katie, search for split char... and don't use gmenu on a website for peoeple with disabiliteis
08:47 FloLeBlanc the bugtracker only said that body UNLOAD was not processed with 4.0.4 (which is my vers)
08:48 Jigal FloLeBlanc: I'm searching in Inside TYPO3 if I can find anything about the process...
08:48 katie i know but the website is not for disabled people
08:48 FloLeBlanc Jigal: thank you
08:49 katie just2b : split function of php?
08:49 just2b__ no of ts
08:51 katie ok
08:54 katie just2b: what if i dont have any character to split the input?
08:54 just2b__ make one
08:54 just2b__ or no split is made
08:57 katie but if i add a character it would be visible on the website
08:57 katie is there any other way?
08:57 just2b__ change the field to text and make there your <br> should be enough links out there
08:59 Jigal FloLeBlanc: nothing in docs about TS within the process :-( I think the code is the documentation here...
08:59 delmonico can I define the folder with the news categories by typoscript instead of general record storage page?
08:59 katie yes, currently title field of pages tables is tinytext
09:00 FloLeBlanc Jigal: *sigh*... I'm really stuck on that.. I just can't explain to myself where the vars would go...
09:03 FloLeBlanc it's not my template, the vars get added to the array, they are gone in pagegen... blubb...
09:03 FloLeBlanc I'd need a var - watch :)
09:03 FloLeBlanc is there a php function that can list me the history of var assignements? (var changed in file X on line Y)? :)
09:04 Jigal you can setup php on the server and some local app for remote debugging ;-)
09:04 FloLeBlanc urgh :)
09:04 FloLeBlanc it's a remote server
09:06 Fanty anyone have any hints or examples to how to implement print templates?
09:06 _tilman for what?
09:06 _tilman Fanty: Printing is made by CSS
09:06 Fanty I'll need a different template
09:07 _tilman Why?
09:07 _tilman You can define ALL and Everything by CSS
09:07 _tilman but well, you can add multiple templates with the typeNum
09:08 _tilman page { typeNum=0 / include statictemplate } page { typeNum=99 / include printtemplate }
09:08 FloLeBlanc Jigal: I tried to add the 2 lines from the extension to fill the array in pagegen for a test now and then the onload body tag is there... it definitely gets lost :(
09:08 _tilman Fanty: But still I suggest you to make a print-css
09:09 _tilman by playing with the visibility you can hide menu, banner, images, etc in the print-css
09:09 _tilman display is also your friend
09:09 Fanty how about getting the print dialogbox appear?
09:10 _tilman The print dialog appears when the USER presses print, you can't force it
09:10 Jigal FloLeBlanc: I have to make some changes to some obscure weblog thingy, when I finish that I'm gonna take a look in the source code; this is an intriguing problem...
09:11 _tilman Fanty: If you like I give you 10 minutes in my query
09:11 FloLeBlanc Jigal: thx I'll try to get help on typo3.net meanwhile and try to debug further into this
09:12 Fanty what, window.print() js dosen't work anymore?
09:13 _tilman Fanty: Well, this might work, but why use it?
09:13 _tilman Fanty: When somebody wants to print a page he/she presses print in her/his browser
09:13 _tilman For that you can define a stylesheet for printing
09:13 _tilman It's the easiest and most usable way
09:16 Fanty _tilman: the user dosen't have access the the toolbar in the browser by default (not by my choice I might add). And the user has already pressed print once to get to the "print template"
09:16 _tilman Fanty: I'm not talking about a print-link, I'm talking about the REAL print-button in my browser
09:17 _tilman I would NEVER use a print-link, and so won't others
09:17 _tilman Why reinvent things, already present by default ?
09:17 Fanty _tilman: they're not.. as I said the default toolbar of the browser is removed
09:18 koomi gnarfucktyposcriptdamnit
09:18 koomi how can i override a wrap if header_layout = 2
09:18 koomi i just dont get it.
09:18 _tilman Fanty: Intranet?
09:18 Fanty _tilman: no, e-learning course :P
09:18 _tilman koomi: When you use conditions they mustn't be in brackets
09:19 _tilman koomi: Conditions only work in root-context
09:19 koomi i don't use conditions.
09:19 _tilman you said IF
09:19 koomi we're talking damn .if here
09:19 koomi ja. stdWrap.if?
09:19 _tilman koomi if = condition
09:20 koomi http://typo3.org/documentation/document-library/references/doc_core_tsref/4.1.0/view/5/7/
09:20 Fanty How would I go about printing a specific content element of a site?
09:20 koomi http://typo3.org/documentation/document-library/references/doc_core_tsref/4.1.0/view/4/1/
09:20 koomi be specific _tilman
09:20 _tilman Fanty: Ok - then you use the javascript to open dialog, but still you don't have to define an exta print-template
09:20 koomi sorry. crappy mood.
09:20 _tilman koomi: Show me your ts
09:21 koomi http://phpfi.com/239766
09:21 delmonico whats the difference between a container and a section in tv?
09:21 koomi i need a clean wrap if header_layout = 2
09:23 _tilman koomi = field is used to access Database-fields
09:23 _tilman header_layout is a thing you defined?
09:25 koomi this is defined in the database and used in css_styled_content ts
09:27 _tilman ahhh
09:27 _tilman did you try it without brackets ?
09:27 koomi what?
09:28 _tilman and did you recognize u access lib.stdHeader.stdWrap.stdWrap.if....
09:28 koomi why should the brackets be a problem. this is not a condition.
09:28 _tilman it is
09:28 _tilman u say, IF equals bla bla
09:28 alexwx i have one mysql error in a BE in list view, i know from what extension it comes, but i dont know the reason. can i somehow debugi it? lpease help, thank you
09:30 _tilman koomi: At first I'm unsure, if it is really correct to have stdWrap to appear twice in your statement
09:31 koomi _tilman: please read tsref
09:31 _tilman just try it without brackets, it may work (and if not, at least you know it's not about that)
09:31 Phlogiston_ anyone can help me? http://www.zurichfilmfestival.com/index.php?id=33 Or could anyone test if ltg_googlesearch works on his page?
09:31 FloLeBlanc alexwx: if there isn't already a reason stated in the error message you could try admin=1
09:32 FloLeBlanc alexwx: page.config.admPanel = 1
09:32 FloLeBlanc in the ts setup
09:32 koomi hrhr Phlogiston_ Fatal error: Cannot redeclare class soapclient in /kunden/170478_63450/rp-hosting/2206000/6675000/zurichfilmfestival.com/typo3conf/ext/eim2nusoap/nusoap/lib/class.soapclient.php on line 858
09:33 alexwx FloLeBlanc go to try
09:34 Phlogiston_ koomi: yes thats my question!!!
09:35 alexwx FloLeBlanc but this is debugind the FE, a have to debug the BE
09:35 alexwx i have to inspect why the error on the BE list view
09:35 delmonico wtf... why does templavoila page module tell me that my elemnts are "not used in this language or sheet" after I changed some mapping? and how can I fix it?
09:35 FloLeBlanc ah then I don't know sorry
09:36 alexwx FloLeBlanc shame
09:36 Phlogiston_ hmm maybe soapclient was declared in that google extension? thats a weird error... anyone has a hint?
09:37 jananne Can't figger this one out: I got 3 pictures, they're all bounded to a link. When i push on informatie ( wich i linked in the TS Template to informatie.html ) the menu DOES work, but when i push on sporten, i does not work. How come?
09:37 jananne http://jananne.net/weird.jpg
09:39 jananne I don't get any text when i push something in the menu
09:42 jananne any one?
09:42 delmonico hmmm I have a "container for elements" and inside "header" and "content elements" fields. now all I get in the content area is "172,168"... whats wrong here?
09:43 delmonico all I want to do is display title and subtitle of the page before the content elements :(
09:44 m4rtijn morning..
09:44 Olegs morning
09:44 alexwx how to use sessions in the extensions? can i use session super global?
09:45 FloLeBlanc hi m4rtijn, hi olegs
09:45 m4rtijn darn, the tt_news template is really annoying me..
09:46 m4rtijn I have <div id ="bla"> </div> but firebug only shows <div id="bla"/> .. without </div>
09:47 jan___ firebug is errors displaying the source code ...
09:47 koomi m4rtijn: i think that's typo3 sanitizing the output if the div would be empty
09:47 jan___ thats a bad bug... something firebug changes tags and so on
09:47 dax77 but its not that of problem
09:48 dax77 if a tag is empty
09:48 dax77 if you have content inbetween the tag won't be selfclosed
09:49 m4rtijn but I dont need content in there :p its only a background image
09:49 dax77 well, than <div id="bla" /> is correct
09:49 m4rtijn but it doesnt show
09:50 dax77 what the image?
09:50 m4rtijn just a 1px repeat-x
09:50 m4rtijn so a line
09:50 jananne Can't figger this one out: I got 3 pictures, they're all bounded to a link. When i push on informatie ( wich i linked in the TS Template to informatie.html ) the menu DOES work, but when i push on sporten, i does not work. How come?
09:50 jananne http://jananne.net/weird.jpg
09:50 jananne I don't get any text when i push something in the menu
09:51 dax77 m4rtijn: you shouldn't do it that way anyways
09:51 m4rtijn but even if I set the height of that div to 100px it doesnt do it
09:51 dax77 why don't you add a border?
09:51 m4rtijn yes.. I could
09:51 m4rtijn or a background color..
09:51 m4rtijn doesnt matter rly
09:52 Olegs guys what is the difference between $this->cObj->getSubpart( ..) and $GLOBALS['TSFE']->cObj->getSubpart( .. )
09:52 Olegs ???
09:52 m4rtijn but at least the <div> height should matter.. but it doesnt
09:52 dax77 Olegs: different cObjects
09:52 m4rtijn at least not in firefox..
09:53 m4rtijn IE shows it.. gnarr
09:53 Olegs why use two?
09:53 Olegs I saw in an extension the author uses both for template substitution
09:53 Olegs any reason for it?
09:53 dax77 Olegs: the one is from your extension and the other one is the global TSFE rendering everything
09:54 dax77 maybe they can have different settings?
09:54 m4rtijn hmm.. I deleted display:inline; now it shows..
09:54 m4rtijn strange
09:54 dax77 m4rtijn: empty divs arent w3c valid I think
09:54 dax77 hmm
09:54 Olegs the only difference is $GLOBALS["TSFE"]->set_no_cache();
09:55 Denyerec Morning
09:55 dokma mornin
09:55 Olegs morning
09:56 dokma any ext programmers here?
09:56 Denyerec I could name a few out of the list but they'd probably kill me
09:57 dokma take a risk
09:58 dokma did you do any ext programming?
09:59 Denyerec Erm.
09:59 Denyerec I've hacked a couple to make them behave.
09:59 Denyerec What areyou working on
09:59 dokma I am writting a very simple app
09:59 dokma all it needs is to store some fe user input
10:00 dokma and allow it to print it in a nicely formated fashion
10:00 dokma my question regards storing the entered data
10:00 dokma the ext has only 1 table
10:00 dokma 4 fields were defined by me
10:00 dokma and a bunch were added by the kickstarter
10:01 dokma now I am wondering how to handle insert statement
10:01 dokma because I do not know what to put in the additional fields
10:01 dokma I figured there is an API call that does this
10:01 dokma but can't figure which one is it
10:04 Jigal Denyerec: thank you! otherwise I had to kill you. ;-P
10:04 Denyerec There is an API call
10:04 delmonico can I configure typo3 to use <h3> instead of <h1> for headers of content elements? I want only title and subtitle to produce <h1> and <h2>, nothing else
10:04 Denyerec But I too have no idea what it is.
10:04 Denyerec delmonico
10:04 Denyerec yes
10:04 uschi yes delmonico
10:04 Denyerec If you bear with me 1 minute I can tell you
10:04 Denyerec OR
10:05 Denyerec uschi can
10:05 Denyerec As her memory is FAR better than mine
10:05 delmonico hehe thanks :)
10:05 uschi not exactly, but i do have the code implemented somewhere
10:05 uschi wait
10:10 thone "class.t3lib_db.php" auf Version 1.10
10:11 thone sry, does someone can give me a hint, where i can download class.t3lib_db.php in version 1.10?
10:16 eeos hi everybody
10:16 FloLeBlanc hii eeos
10:16 FloLeBlanc congrats
10:17 eeos FloLeBlanc: :)
10:17 FloLeBlanc where do you go to?
10:17 eeos FloLeBlanc: centre of Italy, then to the north
10:18 m4rtijn hmm, why doesnt clear: right do what I'd like :p
10:18 eeos FloLeBlanc: when are you going
10:19 FloLeBlanc eeos: I don't have a clue.. I still have 4-5 weeks of holiday open 'til octobre though :)
10:19 m4rtijn got a float: left <div> with clear: right; as option.. but still the next <div> appears next to it
10:19 FloLeBlanc only thing I know is I'm going to the Wacken Open Air in August hehe
10:19 Jigal thone: where does the sentence " "class.t3lib_db.php" auf Version 1.10" come from. This is part of the core of TYPO3 and is usually only updated when you install a new version of TYPO3. Furthermore, I haven't seen version numbers for core files, except the entire TYPO3 version (current stable versions are 4.0.6 and 4.1.1)
10:20 eeos FloLeBlanc: what is the wacken open air
10:20 FloLeBlanc huge heavy metal festival
10:20 FloLeBlanc http://www.wacken.com/
10:20 Phlogiston_ Hmm I found a grave problem with TV. I'm using the TV page module of course. If I want to translate my tt_news entries with the list module, I can't find out how? Maybe this is only passible with the normal page module?
10:22 just2b__ re
10:22 eeos just2b__: hi there
10:23 eeos FloLeBlanc: where is it?
10:23 just2b__ hi eeos
10:23 eeos FloLeBlanc: sounds noisy!!!!
10:23 FloLeBlanc eeos: in Wacken :) (that's near hamburg)
10:23 FloLeBlanc eeos: yes it is
10:23 FloLeBlanc and that's exactly what is right about it
10:23 just2b__ somone has got an IE6 and ff and can make 2 quick tests for me?
10:23 eeos FloLeBlanc: :D
10:23 eeos just2b__: yes
10:23 Layna I can offer an FF...
10:24 just2b__ Layna sorry need both so a user can see how it looks like ;)
10:24 eeos just2b__: both, send the link
10:24 Jigal just2b__: yes; IE6 and FF1.5...
10:24 just2b__ Jigal take a look at pm ;)
10:24 eeos just2b__: IE 5.0,5.5,6.0 FF 2.0
10:25 just2b 04i dont care about 5.0 :D
10:25 just2b 04but take a look at http://www.rggooglemap.com/dev/rgsmoothgallery/smoothgallery-in-text-mit-bild.html > both slideshows.. what works, what not
10:27 Phlogiston_ hmm what can I do if the flag of my second language is not shown in "Localize To" in the list module?
10:27 Layna Btw, just2b: For general browser-testing (unfortunately, only if you can afford to wait quiet a while...): http://browsershots.org/
10:28 eeos FF 2 spectacular
10:30 eeos IE 6.0 the little one works but the frame rate is very bad
10:30 eeos IE 6.0 the big one does not work
10:30 eeos is that ok? just2b
10:31 eeos just2b: ?
10:32 just2b yeah thx04
10:33 Denyerec Framerate in Opera isn't *great*
10:33 Phlogiston_ Please I really really need help: In the Page Module, the Localize to: column is empty!
10:33 Denyerec it doesn't look smooth, but it's not embarrasing
10:35 dax77 re
10:36 eeos dax77: hi there
10:36 Fanty Anyone have any hints/examples of how would I go about printing a specific content element of a site?
10:37 Fanty I need a "print exercise" where exercise is a dynamic content element
10:41 brain-xy hello all
10:42 FloLeBlanc hi brain
10:44 eeos brain-xy: hi there
10:47 Jigal Phlogiston_: stupid question: you did add a language record to the site didn't you?
10:57 jananne Can't figger this one out: I got 3 pictures, they're all bounded to a link. When i push on informatie ( wich i linked in the TS Template to informatie.html ) the menu DOES work, but when i push on sporten, i does not work. How come?
10:57 jananne http://jananne.net/weird.jpg
10:57 jananne I don't get any text when i push something in the menu
11:16 Phlogiston_ Jigal: yes I did... language is working for normal pages but NOT for records... its not only in tt_news....
11:18 just2b re
11:18 jan___ re2
11:19 just2b did i miss something? ;)
11:20 dax77 nope
11:22 m4rtijn hmm.. why doesnt my RO show for a menu item which has a submenu?
11:23 m4rtijn i cant find any IFSUBRO in tsref :p
11:28 Jigal Phlogiston_: I have the same problem with one of the sites. news items are in a system folder one level below the root element (with the earth globe icon) and I had to add "Alternative Page Language" records before I could translate the records there (and in other system folders)
11:29 Phlogiston_ Hmm where did you have to add them? but its a nice try :)
11:29 katie how do i insert br tags in a long page title?
11:29 Jigal Phlogiston_: in the system folder that contains the news items (surprisingly called "News items")
11:30 Phlogiston_ Jigal: hehe :) ok... and I need to that for every plugin maybe?
11:30 katie how do i insert br tags in a long page title?
11:31 Jigal Phlogiston_: I had to do it for each system folder on that level (only level where we had system folders)
11:31 katie how do i insert br tags in a long page title?
11:31 m4rtijn any idea's about my RO option on a navi item with submenu?
11:31 katie how do i insert br tags in a long page title?
11:32 m4rtijn arr.. got it. IFSUB = 0
11:32 Phlogiston_ hmm Jigal can't get it to work yet. You just added a new record called "Alternative Page Language" and gave that a name?
11:32 katie how do i insert br tags in a long page title?
11:33 Phlogiston_ hmm now the flag is the one of my default language... and If I klick on that: 1: Sys language UID "0" not found valid!
11:33 FloLeBlanc re all
11:33 Jigal Phlogiston_: on the top of the list view I clicked the icon for Create new record, selected type "Alternative Page Language" and filled in the details...
11:33 m4rtijn katie.. why would you want that?
11:34 FloLeBlanc Jigal: did you happen to find something? (I'm just testing the BE admin perhaps at least that works)
11:34 m4rtijn katie: just place a <div> around your title with a certain width
11:34 Phlogiston_ Jigal: hmm yes... What website languages I need?
11:34 katie this is text 'Angebote für Menschen \n mit Behinderungen'
11:34 katie im using GMENU to create in a menu item
11:34 katie its too long
11:34 katie i want new line character here
11:35 katie what should i do?
11:35 Jigal Phlogiston_: the same as you needed in the root... I set the same uid as the ones in the Page view in the root of the site (Website Languages IIRC)
11:35 FloLeBlanc katie you could set the page type to advanced and use a shorter navigation title while keeping the long title for the page itself
11:36 Phlogiston_ Jigal: hmm I will try that now directly in the db
11:36 Jigal Phlogiston_: why in the db??
11:36 Phlogiston_ Jigal: then I can change the UID
11:37 Phlogiston_ hmm no...
11:37 katie no i want the long title here
11:37 Phlogiston_ Jigal: damn it... it does not work at all
11:37 katie not the navigation title
11:37 m4rtijn katie maybe spitrendering allows different offsets
11:38 Phlogiston_ Jigal: ah now it works
11:38 Jigal Phlogiston_: sorry, no need to change uid; the Language you selected in the form is good enough
11:38 Phlogiston_ but hey i does not inherit... I really need to create it in THE folder
11:38 Phlogiston_ Jigal: ah wait my fault
11:38 m4rtijn katie: check http://typo3.org/documentation/document-library/references/doc_core_tsref/4.1.0/view/9/2/
11:38 m4rtijn the splitrendering option
11:38 katie ok
11:38 m4rtijn maybe that'll do
11:40 Phlogiston_ Jigal: no, it does _not_ inherit at all :( sad but hmm ok... I will set it on every multilang sys folder then :(
11:41 katie m4rtijin : but its for gif builder ? isnt it??
11:41 katie i m not using gif bulder
11:41 m4rtijn GMENU does
11:42 katie does it work for GMENU also?
11:42 m4rtijn should yes
11:42 katie let me check it
11:44 katie what if i use textMaxLength
11:44 katie ?
11:44 m4rtijn the description is on the right side..
11:44 m4rtijn I think it condeses th text
11:45 Phlogiston_ hmm now I can't translate my pages any longer
11:45 m4rtijn no.. its doesnt :p.. try it.. im not sure
11:46 Phlogiston_ ah fixe
11:46 Phlogiston_ x
11:46 Phlogiston_ d
11:47 Phlogiston_ ehm anyone just knows how I can disable that (copy) that typo3 sets on the header when I copy a CE?
11:49 m4rtijn :p
11:51 jananne Can't figger this one out: I got 3 pictures, they're all bounded to a link. When i push on informatie ( wich i linked in the TS Template to informatie.html ) the menu DOES work, but when i push on sporten, i does not work. How come?
11:51 jananne http://jananne.net/weird.jpg
11:51 jananne I don't get any text when i push something in the menu
11:52 just2b so how does the code look like
11:57 Phlogiston_ hmm tt_news cuts my subheader, how can I change that?
11:57 just2b through ts
11:57 just2b or plugin
11:58 Phlogiston_ just2b: yes but what option just2b
11:59 m4rtijn can I link a page to a folder like /fileadmin/folder without using "external url" ?
11:59 m4rtijn seems "mountpoint" cant do that
11:59 katie m4rtijin : didnt work! :(
12:00 m4rtijn what didnt work?
12:00 katie i tried so many solutions but didnt work
12:00 katie the text line break
12:00 m4rtijn what about maxtextlength?
12:00 m4rtijn what did that do?
12:01 katie it just display only X number of characters which we pass as an argument
12:01 katie just like substr fucntion in php
12:02 m4rtijn what about the rest of the chars? leaves them out?
12:02 katie yes
12:02 m4rtijn hmk
12:02 katie i want such function which according to length go on a new line
12:02 katie or i enter <br> tag and it translates into html
12:03 m4rtijn <br> wont work thats for sure :p
12:03 katie but the problem is that typo3 does not rendeing html
12:03 katie yeah
12:03 andreasbalzer hi! I have a question about a HMENU type updated. My code is http://phpfi.com/239794 Is it possible to exclude pages wheren their parent page is hidden for FE users?
12:03 katie do we make typo3 render html
12:04 ries morning
12:04 andreasbalzer hi ries :)
12:05 ries Hey andreasbalzer
12:05 partykeller-sear hello @ all
12:06 partykeller-sear somebody in here who can help me?
12:06 partykeller-sear im using the "bzd mitarbeiterverzeichnis"
12:06 andreasbalzer ries: I have another special question for you: your phpads/openads extension shows my banners sometimes twice on the page.. so something with your patch some year ago does not work..
12:06 partykeller-sear and always get the same error
12:07 partykeller-sear ERROR: Feature not implemented.
12:07 m4rtijn no katie.. you dont render html
12:07 katie :(==
12:07 m4rtijn you just render text
12:07 m4rtijn I would try splitrendering with different offsets
12:07 ries andreasbalzer: That's a pitty.....+ basicly I instruct openads not to give me the same ad twice....
12:08 m4rtijn hmm.. but that would be for all GMENU items then
12:08 m4rtijn thats not a good solution either
12:08 katie yah
12:08 Phlogiston_ ah I found the bastard: [crop]=230 | ... | 1
12:08 katie client is kicking my ass because of this!
12:10 partykeller-sear mhh i thought I installed the expansion right!? :-(
12:10 m4rtijn try this katie
12:10 m4rtijn http://www.typo3wizard.com/en/snippets/gifbuilder/multiple-line-text-with-gifbuilder.html
12:10 partykeller-sear nobody in here who would like to help me?
12:10 m4rtijn I guess nobody knows that extension partykeller-sear
12:11 partykeller-sear mhh I'm german, can't speak and right :o) english so good
12:11 andreasbalzer ries: but it doesn't work...
12:11 andreasbalzer ries: any possibility?
12:11 partykeller-sear .... :-( that's an extension that lists workers.... but its just startin with an error :(
12:12 partykeller-sear install was fine
12:12 m4rtijn wb
12:12 ries andreasbalzer: I would say check the code and start debugging... I don't use it on any of my sites
12:12 jan___ aua
12:12 jan___ ^^
12:12 m4rtijn :p
12:12 ries andreasbalzer: and since I don't have openads installed anywehre I cannot debug it...
12:12 jan___ now my source is broken...
12:13 jan___ :p
12:13 ries andreasbalzer: this extension was written at a time I was working for a company that needed it
12:13 m4rtijn partykeller-sear .. how old is that extension and on what version of typo3 was it build?
12:13 alexwx i have one mysql error in a BE in a list view, i know from what extension it comes, but i dont know the reason, why, where. can i somehow debug it? please help, thank you
12:13 m4rtijn could be that its not usable anymore
12:13 m4rtijn katie?
12:13 alexwx help please
12:14 katie yes
12:14 katie im checking it
12:14 m4rtijn ah ok
12:14 m4rtijn good luck :p
12:14 katie :)
12:14 partykeller-sear updated 20.5.2007 - typo 4.1.
12:15 partykeller-sear @@ries.... after adding some information 4 the list, the error occures
12:15 uschi did i ever mention that i hate IE6?
12:16 FloLeBlanc uschi: no
12:16 katie 30.offset=0,24+[10.h]+[20.h]+12
12:16 katie what does this mean
12:16 katie its too complex
12:16 Jigal partykeller-sear: is that question on typo3forum.net from you? (tkrholic is nickname)
12:17 partykeller-sear no
12:17 partykeller-sear :-(
12:17 Jigal partykeller-sear: same extension, same error: http://www.typo3forum.net/forum/extension-suchen-und-neue-vorschlagen/21058-personensuche.html
12:17 FloLeBlanc katie: http://typo3.org/documentation/document-library/references/doc_core_tsref/4.1.0/view/8/6/
12:18 partykeller-sear h jigal... think isn't possible to debug
12:18 partykeller-sear perhabs the same "wrong option" :D
12:18 partykeller-sear ?
12:20 ries 0,24+[10.h]+[20.h]+12 < means W=0, H= 24 pixels + the height of element 10 + the height of element 20 + 12 pixels
12:20 ries partykeller-sear: I don't follow you
12:20 Jigal partykeller-sear: you could try to ask the author: Mario Rimann <(obscured mail address)>
12:20 partykeller-sear mh ok that's an idea
12:20 partykeller-sear :-) thought that somebody in here perhaps knows this extension...
12:21 Jigal partykeller-sear: did you read the documentation? http://typo3.org/documentation/document-library/extension-manuals/bzd_staff_directory/0.5.0/view/toc/0/
12:26 eX|Joe hey guys, quick question. must typo3 use php4?
12:26 eX|Joe or can php5 be used as well?
12:26 m4rtijn php5 is even better
12:26 uschi both works
12:26 m4rtijn some extensions need php5
12:26 eX|Joe wonderful, my next question. when i do http://localhost it send me the phtml file
12:26 FloLeBlanc yes *grml*
12:26 eX|Joe i followed the install.txt to the letter.
12:27 eX|Joe i am using ubuntu linux
12:27 eX|Joe ....silent....
12:28 m4rtijn whats a phtml?
12:28 andreasbalzer php file
12:28 eX|Joe basically it offers for me to download the actual phtml file
12:28 eX|Joe instead of opening it.
12:28 andreasbalzer :D
12:29 m4rtijn then.. php isnt working correctly
12:29 eX|Joe thats what i thought as well, i rechecked everything... i'll do an uninstall/reinstall
12:30 andreasbalzer check your available RAM memory
12:30 m4rtijn I would suggest u check the php.ini :p
12:31 eX|Joe m4rtijn: what should i be looking for?
12:31 m4rtijn reinstall doesnt help if some setting is missing by default
12:31 andreasbalzer check the memory. For me this is a known issue
12:32 m4rtijn then andreasbalzer 's probably right :p
12:32 eX|Joe 25.7% of mem being used
12:32 eX|Joe i have a fresh install of ubuntu, strictly gnome interface
12:32 andreasbalzer ok... and how does it change if you access the file?
12:32 eX|Joe goes up .1
12:32 eX|Joe %
12:33 eX|Joe from 25.7 to 25.8
12:33 andreasbalzer hm.. ok.. then this is not the problem in your case
12:33 andreasbalzer if i stress my servers a little, they sometimes start malfunctioning...
12:33 eX|Joe i was running webgui before this
12:33 eX|Joe :/
12:33 eX|Joe i would imagine that to be far more resource heavy than typo3
12:34 eX|Joe at any rate, i do have to run. i'll check my php.ini file when i get back
12:34 eX|Joe thanks for the suggestions
12:34 m4rtijn cu
12:35 m4rtijn so.. is it possible to open a file / folder like: fileadmin/folder/bla.html -- on a navi button click
12:35 m4rtijn without having to use the page type "external url" ?
12:37 m4rtijn Im not sure if I use "external url" it will open the file in a new window.. and if I circumvent that.. then every external url will change.. which sucks
12:38 BA5TIAAN how does linkTo_UnCryptMailto work? I still see my normal email if I hover over an email
12:39 BA5TIAAN But sometimes I do see a crypted email
12:40 BA5TIAAN ...or perhaps a better question how do I make the extention I use crypt the email?
12:46 BA5TIAAN no one has any clue?
12:53 Phlogiston_ does typo3 store content texts in utf8 internally?
12:53 just2b if you say so
12:56 Phlogiston_ but if I go to the table with external phpmyadmin the chars like äöü are not correctly displayed...
12:56 m4rtijn any idea how I could refer to a file or folder like : fileadin/folder/bla.html ?? from a page
12:56 just2b m4rtijn normal link
12:56 m4rtijn I mean.. on a navigation klick
12:57 just2b why not external url
12:57 m4rtijn I tried page type "mount point" and "shortcut" but thats not possible
12:57 just2b external url
12:57 m4rtijn because.. I need the page to be "in" the website I build
12:57 just2b iframe
12:58 m4rtijn but its being generated from another program
12:58 andreasbalzer is there a linux terminal command to find out, wheher the installed kernel or something should be updated?
12:58 m4rtijn Iframe is not an option cause the website should be dynamic in height.. :(
12:58 andreasbalzer object tag
12:59 andreasbalzer it can include an external website but resizes
12:59 BA5TIAAN I guess that that depends on your distribution andreasbalzer
12:59 andreasbalzer suse
12:59 m4rtijn object tag ?
12:59 andreasbalzer m4rtjin:<object>
13:01 m4rtijn hmm.. ok I'll check that one out.. thx andreasbalzer
13:01 ries andreasbalzer: yes there is, forgot it though.... check your kernels makefile
13:01 andreasbalzer m4rtjin: another option is to use iframes and JS
13:01 andreasbalzer ries: I don't even know yet what a makefile is :D
13:01 BA5TIAAN check out SuSEWatcher
13:03 IT-Globalized I'm back again, lol... a typo3 freelancer/developer is obviously not easy to get ahold of
13:03 ries andreasbalzer: it's simple... the name of the file is 'makefile' :D
13:03 andreasbalzer m4rtjin: parent.document.getElementsByTagName("iframe")[1],height=document.getElementsByID("div").height; should do a trick like you want with an iframe
13:03 ries andreasbalzer: but if you don't know it... then better don't touch it ;)
13:03 FloLeBlanc ries: hehe
13:03 andreasbalzer m4rtjin: while you should add a div in your iframe file with the wanted height
13:03 ries IT-Globalized: there are a couple of them here.... and there are many companies that offer support
13:03 andreasbalzer ries: :)
13:04 FloLeBlanc hehe great.. now I have setup jm_gallery 0.9.0 and cannot use the FE-Admin due to the obscure JS Vanishing pffff :)
13:05 andreasbalzer Some questions about php: Should I ask my team to update our php installation from 5.1.6 to 5.2.3 or does TYPO3 produce problems with it?
13:05 m4rtijn hmm.. cool andreasbalzer .. I shouldve known that before :p
13:06 m4rtijn I tried looking for some solutions a while back.. but didnt find that one
13:06 andreasbalzer m4rtjin: but this doesn't work if you use TYPO3 with subdomains
13:06 m4rtijn okay
13:06 m4rtijn thx
13:07 IT-Globalized ries.. yeh I've tried to get people from here interested the last day or two
13:07 jan___ fightback ;)
13:07 IT-Globalized the project is still at https://www.it-globalized.com/project_page.aspx?ProjectID=144 - note we are experiencing some performance issues at the moment so the server is quite slow
13:11 Phlogiston_ does this use typo3's mysql api or this php mysql or what is it? MYSQL(TYPO3_db,$sql);??
13:12 IT-Globalized Phlogison - the project you mean? - oh performance issue sorted :)
13:15 fabrice hello all. I am a newbie TYPO3 user and I have a small(?) question about converting database to utf-8. anyone for help?
13:15 andreasbalzer firtsly make a backup :)
13:15 FloLeBlanc good idea :)
13:16 fabrice I've done that
13:16 andreasbalzer then look for a tutorial
13:16 andreasbalzer there are plenty in the web for TYPO§
13:16 fabrice I have followed what is described on the TYPO3 wiki
13:17 IT-Globalized last post for today.... project in typo3 for some ongoing typo3 work at https://www.it-globalized.com/project_page.aspx?ProjectID=144 no other bidders at this point, so if you make a post you're in a good position to get it
13:17 uschi andreasbalzer, do you think that your advice is of any help for fabrice?
13:18 andreasbalzer uschi: it's the best step you can do at the beginning
13:18 andreasbalzer uschi: if you make only one mistake while migrating, you can change all the nice chars like Ä manually later on..
13:18 uschi sorry, i do find your answer arrogant
13:18 FloLeBlanc fabrice: you did not ask the question yet - what is it?
13:18 uschi making a backup is alright
13:19 andreasbalzer uschi: i'm sorry but I made a google search and read about 12 tutorials.. it's very difficult to find out what you have to do according to your system
13:19 uschi suggesting to search for a tutorial simply means that you do not have any specific advice
13:19 fabrice In fact, my mysql server is configured for utf-8 (default_character_set = utf8 and default_collation = utf8_general_ci)...
13:19 andreasbalzer http://www.typo3-media.com/blog/article/utf8-and-typo3-updated.html
13:20 FloLeBlanc re eeos
13:20 eeos FloLeBlanc: hi!
13:20 andreasbalzer but in this tutorial sed 's/CHARSET=latin1/CHARSET=utf8/' backupfile.sql > backupfile_utf8.sql didn't work for us
13:21 andreasbalzer also good to read if you understand German http://www.exanto.de/typo3-und-utf-8.html
13:21 fabrice ... but as i started from dummy, i didn't notice immediately that the collations were, by default, latin1-swedish-ci...
13:21 andreasbalzer but [multiplyDBfieldSize] shouldn't be changed if you don't use russian or chinese characters..
13:22 andreasbalzer uschi: so as you see it's not quite easy to give an advice
13:22 fabrice ... I used the php script on the wiki: http://wiki.typo3.org/index.php/Talk:UTF-8_support#typo3_sets_incorrectly_mysql_tables_at_installation
13:23 andreasbalzer the best advices i can give are: make a backup and prepare some cups of coffee or tea..
13:23 andreasbalzer for us the script did not work
13:23 FloLeBlanc fabrice: I did also change all fields manually in phpmyadm *yuck*
13:24 fabrice ... most of the things are going on all right: collations are changed and characters appear as correct. The problem is that my DS isn't understand anymore by TYPO3 4.1.1 (i use templavoila)
13:24 brain-xy hmm.. is it possible to make a checkbox with only 1/0 in a TV FCE ?
13:24 fabrice understand/understood/
13:24 FloLeBlanc fabrice: you also have to change the charset used by t3 to utf-8 (if I understood that correct)
13:25 fabrice er... where do i set this ? do you mean forceCharset ? now that all the db is in utf-8, I leave that blank :-)
13:25 FloLeBlanc config.renderCharset = utf-8 / config.metaCharset = utf-8 / etc.
13:26 FloLeBlanc (but I admit I don't remember all the steps I did, I used one of the tutorials like andreas suggested)
13:26 FloLeBlanc fabrice: but it was an awful work :)
13:27 fabrice yeah, I know about config.renderCharset for the frontend rendering (and i think that if it's set then config.metaCharset doesn't have to be set as well; correct?) but my problem is different: templavoila complains...
13:28 Phlogiston_ hey guys! thanks that you were talking about utf8 problems too...
13:28 Phlogiston_ now I found out how to solve my problem :)
13:29 Phlogiston_ This is such a damn BIG SHAME for typo3! This should be set by default...
13:29 FloLeBlanc you would like to have utf8 as default? :)
13:30 FloLeBlanc ries are you there?
13:31 BA5TIAAN Anyone knows why linkTo_UnCryptMailto does not work? I can read the emails
13:31 BA5TIAAN (or does not work on some extentions)
13:31 fabrice ... it says that it can't find any DS for my root page; but, when in the BE, when i look at the properties of my root page, is has one! just under the subpages, in the content field, I have "Data Structure ERROR: Line 9: Invalid character"
13:32 timof hi @all
13:34 Fanty any extensions exist that expand on the FE user handling of typo3? I'm going to have over 4000 users in about 200 groups... the current interface can't support those numbers in a manageble way
13:34 Phlogiston_ FloLeBlanc: ok its a shame that changing the charset does not change how typo3 stores it in db... its just a mess...
13:34 fabrice however, when i check the xml code of my ds, it is the same as the one before changing the collations; even the "encoding" tag was already set to utf-8. any idea ?
13:34 Phlogiston_ because I can't convert my tt_content to real utf8......... shit
13:34 SmaxTheFrog hi, how can i delete a translation of a single page? i deleted all content, baut the language selector still acts as if there was a translation ?!?
13:34 FloLeBlanc phlogiston: would YOU like to write such a script that does that and take the complaints from ppl which only wanted to "try a change" :)
13:38 fabrice If the experts here have no idea, i'll try what FloLeBlanc did: changing all fields manually :-( I just hope that the result won't be the same as the one from the script!
13:38 Phlogiston_ FloLeBlanc: of course not :D
13:38 Phlogiston_ But I still can't find out how to convert my tables.... :(
13:40 FloLeBlanc fabrice: I unfortunately cannot guarantee you that it will work
13:41 FloLeBlanc I pushed that traumatic utf conversion issue away from my mind :)
13:41 fabrice i was sure you would say that :-)
13:41 fabrice no idea for my "DS invalid character" problem?
13:41 avagraphique hi trying to pass a bit of text to a plugin setup. ... http://phpfi.com/239816
13:41 avagraphique the extension is being fussy
13:42 Phlogiston_ FloLeBlanc: hmm you know the problem is: I have external tables in the same db and if the ext wants to fetch the data its not correct.........
13:43 fabrice I have to go; thanks for reading. probably, i'll post my question on the mailing list. bye!
13:44 dokma ries
13:44 m4rtijn what kind of type would a normal html be ... text/html ?
13:44 FloLeBlanc phlogiston: it worked for me after changing the fields to utf8 and the t3coding to utf8
13:45 ries FloLeBlanc: what does the utf8 conversion not work?
13:45 dokma hey ries
13:45 dokma do you know which api call
13:45 dokma is used to create ext records?
13:46 dokma I made an ext with kickstarter
13:46 dokma but now my table has a pile of extra fields
13:46 dokma which I know not how to handle
13:50 ries dokma: there is a API that create and fills in some of the fields for you, and it will look at your TCA
13:50 ries But to be honest, I never really used that API
13:51 ries But if you want to be compatible with versioning and workspaces then you must use that API.
13:52 Jigal FloLeBlanc: haven't found anything useful yet :-(
13:53 FloLeBlanc Jigal: me neither :( I managed to somehow assemble and display everything via the backend and the FE display doesn't need JS fortunately
13:53 FloLeBlanc but apart from that :(
13:53 FloLeBlanc Jigal: but thank you very much for trying
13:54 Jigal FloLeBlanc: np :-)
13:58 dokma ries prehaps this one: t3lib_DB.exec_INSERTquery
13:59 ries dokma: that is just teh API to execute a query...
13:59 dokma it does not take care of any table fields automatically ?
14:00 ries any PDF guru here?
14:00 FloLeBlanc ries: I am very good at opening and closing them if you mean that :)
14:00 ries hehehe
14:01 ries I need to know how to create a trimbox and a bleedbox
14:01 FloLeBlanc oh.. sorry don't know that
14:01 ries I think I need to add some additional code to fpdf
14:02 dax77 hi again :)
14:04 ries dokma: try pi_prependFieldsWithTable($table,$fieldList)
14:06 avagraphique is it possible to set a value to a constant using ts in setup?
14:09 dokma that is not it
14:09 dokma I think you didn't understand my dillema
14:09 dokma I have one table in my extension
14:09 dokma four fields in it were created by me
14:10 dokma and I know what to put in them
14:10 dokma but there are 10 more fields in there
14:10 dokma for some of which I do not know what to put in
14:11 dokma ries ?
14:12 Layna *sighs* hello.... I am fighting a right-problem...
14:12 Layna I am getting: Warning: Unknown(/Users/<removed>/htdocs/typo3/typo3_src-4.1.1/typo3/index.php): failed to open stream: Operation not permitted in Unknown on line 0
14:13 Layna And two mroe wanrign of that kind... now, ANOTHER typo3-page does WORK on EXATLY THE SAME server, just from anotehr direcorty...
14:15 Layna Any ideas?
14:16 ries dokma: do these fields start with t3 or something?
14:16 m4rtijn chmod?
14:16 dokma no
14:16 ries dokma: what fields then?? I am not a mind reader...sorry
14:17 m4rtijn layna: is chmod the same on both dirs?
14:17 Phlogiston_ in which table are the page titles saved in typo3?
14:17 dokma these are: uid, pid, tstamp, crdate, cruser_id, deleted, hidden, sys_language_uid, I18n_parent, I18n_diffsource
14:17 Phlogiston_ ah pages? =)
14:17 Layna *goes obevr exact rights....*
14:20 ries dokma: like I said.. i would look for the API... bit this is what I do: pid = current page, or a storage folder, tstamp=time(), crdate=time(), cruser_id=0, deleted=0,mhidden=0, sys_language_uid (current language L param) tthe other 2 I never really used
14:21 dokma I understand
14:22 dokma I'll try to get understanding of the last two also
14:22 dokma I'm trying to support localization
14:23 ries localisation is weird in typo3...
14:26 Layna no obviosu problems about my chmod.
14:27 Layna the symbolic links are all correct, the owner is identical, the gorup is identical..
14:27 Layna and the rwx-settign are all identocall, too
14:29 SmaxTheFrog hi, how can i delete a translation of a single page? i deleted all content, baut the language selector still acts as if there was a translation ?!?
14:31 Layna also, from teh DEVELOPEMENT-folder, the non.working page DID wokr perfectly..
14:32 FloLeBlanc can the gifbuilder process png files?
14:35 FloLeBlanc nvm
14:36 kraftb hi everybody !
14:37 FloLeBlanc oh hi kraftb
14:37 FloLeBlanc long time not here :)
14:37 kraftb yeah
14:37 kraftb lot of work
14:37 kraftb does anyone know how i get hotmail to receive emails from a server i have to take care of ?
14:37 kraftb they always get rejected ...
14:37 kraftb they do not even get into the spam box :(
14:40 FloLeBlanc kraftb: perhaps hotmail graylisted your server?
14:45 ries kraftb: do you have proper reverse lookups on your mailserver?
14:49 Denyerec Hey ries
14:50 ries hey Denyerec
14:54 avagraphique does anyone know if it possible to set a value to a constant using ts in setup?
14:54 m4rtijn yes
14:54 avagraphique syntax?
14:55 m4rtijn for example
14:55 m4rtijn plugin.tt_news {
14:55 m4rtijn templateFile = fileadmin/templates/tt_news.html
14:55 m4rtijn }
14:59 avagraphique i dont under stand this. sorry ive been looking at this too long. I want to, in SETUP field, set the value of a constant.
14:59 avagraphique in constants it is easy you just do constant = value
15:00 avagraphique then in setup can call it {$constant}
15:00 avagraphique well i wan to set that in SETUP, not constants
15:00 avagraphique I have an extension that is expecting some text to be passed to it, but extension doesnt have stdwrap built in, so only way i can pass to it is the text or {$constant}
15:01 avagraphique and i need to pass a url variable to it
15:01 dokma avag
15:01 dokma url is passed via extkey[varname]=value
15:01 dokma it then lands in piVars
15:02 dokma if you want to pass constant
15:02 dokma it will land in $conf
15:03 dokma plugin.extkey.property = value
15:03 dokma and then you have it at runtime in $conf
15:03 dokma actually that would go via setup
15:04 avagraphique hmm looks like i have to hack the extension to make it work i was hoping to do it all in typoscript only as i not too experienced with php
15:06 avagraphique what do you mean "actually that would go via setup" ? Do you mean that I can set
15:06 avagraphique plugin.extkey.property = value
15:07 avagraphique but that would go right into the plugin, how do i get that to be a constant?
15:07 avagraphique trying to do this
15:07 avagraphique plugin.tx_pilmailform_pi1.defaultValues{
15:07 avagraphique MODEL_VAL; plain; text:{$constant}
15:07 avagraphique }
15:08 avagraphique but i need the constant to be {GPvar:var}
15:08 avagraphique that extension takes that text and parses it as an array, apparantly, and can only take text. no stdwrap available there
15:25 FloLeBlanc can someone quickly overlook this plz? http://phpfi.com/239848 I do something wrong with the 2nd gifbuilder object it seems (is not shown)
15:35 kraftb hey
15:36 kraftb one question about rss feeds ...
15:36 kraftb there is an tag named <link>
15:36 kraftb i can't place a link to a news or something into this tag cause the links has rectangle brackets
15:36 kraftb like &tx_ttnews[view]=1
15:36 kraftb and [] are not allowed in rss links
15:36 kraftb how to solve this ?
15:37 ries kraftb: you need to urlencode it.... since brakets are not allowed in a URL aswell
15:39 BA5TIAAN quick question... is the website user info translatable? Like streen name data in frence and dutch?
15:40 BA5TIAAN *street
15:40 koomi BA5TIAAN: the name should be the same :)
15:41 BA5TIAAN it isnt
15:41 Phlogiston_ anyone has an idea for that? I want to use ltg_googlesearch on that page....
15:41 Phlogiston_ http://www.zurichfilmfestival.com/index.php?id=33
15:41 BA5TIAAN NL: Louisalaan FR: Avenue Louise
15:45 ries kraftb: does that work? it was a whild guess...
16:11 ries cyrill??
16:18 avagraphique anyone ahve any success using indexed search / xrawler with pdf files?
16:18 avagraphique i am looking for soem crawler setup that would include pdf
16:18 avagraphique also tt_products as well
17:01 skorpi lalala
17:01 andreasbalzer to make the day a little bit better: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=euZ0j7vtKEQ :D
17:33 kraftb ries ?
17:33 kraftb if i do rawurlencode on the part after ? i do not get the proper values for the GET vars
17:39 ries kraftb: what if you just do a rawurlencode on the varable names?
17:39 ries variable
17:44 ir4 hello all
17:48 ir4 In an ext. of mine, I would like to reproduce what's made on the tt_content table where when you modify the value of the field 'content type', the visible fields are modified on the fly after the user clicks ok button of a javascript alert box. Where can I find doc on how to achieve this? Logically I would have thought it would be in 'inside typo3' but can't find anything there. Thanks in advance
17:49 ir4 can't find anything in core api either for that matter
17:49 ries ir4: I think that's somewhere done in the TCA.... I don't have the name of teh doc at hand...
17:53 ir4 ries: thx, I'll keep looking in the core api then.
17:54 ir4 ries: you know where I could go and check the tca of tt_content? where would that be in the sources?
17:55 skorpi irc: look in the core api -> tca, ctrl-section->type and types-section. Or just have a look at the TCA in the module Tools->Configuration
17:55 skorpi -c +4 ;-)
17:56 ries ir4: I think I have done a grep in the source one day
18:02 lucasthurston Anyone know of a hook in TCEmain that gets call before or after a record is deleted? I can't seem to find it, but perhaps I'm not looking in the right place. My goal is to catch all deletions of tt_content or pages records.
18:02 lucasthurston Doesn't seem to exist in TCEmain
18:03 ir4 skorpi, ries, thx, I'm looking. I found the ext_tables.php for tt_content in typo3/sysext/cms ... now will look at skorpi's link
18:05 lucasthurston Oh wait, maybe I found it in: process_cmdmap()
18:05 skorpi ir4: http://typo3.org/documentation/document-library/core-documentation/doc_core_api/4.1.0/view/4/2/#id3613137
18:06 skorpi but have a look at the configuration module first. thats a great tool for looking at TCA and TYPO3_CONF_VARS
18:14 ries lucasthurston: rvt_nestedsets uses it
18:14 lucasthurston ries, thanks, I'll take a look
18:19 skorpi see you later...
18:21 ckoehler how do you guys increment a value in the db with the typo3 db methods?
18:22 ckoehler i can't do a value=value+1 because typo3 puts quotes around the value+1 part
18:23 phlogi hmm anyone ever used ltg_googlesearch? here is the error I get: http://www.zurichfilmfestival.com/index.php?id=33, I'm using typo3 4.1.1. I installed the same extension and its dep eim2nusoap on another installation of typo3, where it works. I can't explain that. Maybe its another extension? But if I grep through the whole source code only typo3 itself extens that class. And this is lib there in /typo3_src/typo3/mod/tools/em is in the other typ
18:23 phlogi o3 install where the ext works too. So that can't be the problem
18:24 ir4 too bad skorpi left, I think he got me on the good path
18:24 ir4 wanted to thx him
18:35 phlogi I really need help!
18:51 titii helo there, anybody can helps how to generate the language menu in the site for any languages, for example en: /en/aboutus.html, de: /de/unseruns.html ? thank you
18:51 titii generate the menu links
18:54 titii please help someone
19:00 ks how do I clear FE cache with alt_menu cached ?
19:16 phlogi hmm I can't reproduce this on any other site. could anyone give me a hint? http://www.zurichfilmfestival.com/index.php?id=33, I try to use ltg_googlesearch
19:26 phlogi damn it...
19:31 phlogi anyone know alternatives to the quixplorer? it gets a php timeout because the file is quite big
19:32 Boonkerz hello
19:32 Boonkerz folks
19:32 Boonkerz :D
19:40 ries phlogi: I think I mailed you back, can you modify the code to get rid of teh dependency of iem2nusoap?
19:41 phlogi ries: hmm that was you ? I have no mail here. Could you resend it to (obscured mail address) please?
19:41 ries phlogi: The question was basically if you can modify the code for 4.1.1
19:41 phlogi ries: this does not help.... then it does not work... it says the some function needs an array as an argument instead of a simple string
19:42 phlogi ries: i think it goes in the wrong direction... that is not the problem actually
19:42 phlogi ries: I think the solution might be that: http://www.gutknecht-informatik.com/support/mailinglisten/typo3-mailinglist-en.html?tx_maillisttofaq_pi1%5Bmode%5D=1&tx_maillisttofaq_pi1%5Bpointer%5D=69&tx_maillisttofaq_pi1%5BshowUid%5D=41870
19:42 phlogi ries: better url: http://lists.netfielders.de/pipermail/typo3-english/2007-January/034981.html
19:43 phlogi but I don't what he exactly did in those files
19:43 quamar hi
19:44 quamar anyone experienced to configure a server to deal with more than one site with realurl ?
19:45 quamar where can i find docu for setting up the http.conf to deal with multiple sites and realurl
19:45 quamar ?
19:45 ries quamar: search in google for 'wiki typo3 realurl'
19:45 ries phlogi: I don't have time to change ltg_googlesearch for 4.1.1 sorry
19:46 phlogi ries: as I told you that is NOT the problem... did you read the links? The problem is that the lib conflicts with one from php5 I think... because I got your ext to work with other typo3 4.1.1 installations
19:48 ries I quickly read teh links....
19:49 ries I don't have ltg_googlesearch with 5 here.. to test
19:49 phlogi hmm what would you suggest to comment out in the lib? or in your ext?
19:52 phlogi if I comment out the last include line in the plugin, the site loads with google logo, but if I do a search then: http://phpfi.com/239899
19:55 ries phlogi: it's to long ago since I worked on it... I cannot tell
19:56 phlogi ries: its so sad... the problem is that my php5 has suop support in it...
19:56 phlogi this is it right: http://phpfi.com/239901
19:56 phlogi anyone knows how to disable that? so i could use the extension soap with should work with ries extension
20:04 phlogi cu tommorow, I have a solution in mind :)
20:24 phlogi hey ries if I can solve the problem tomorrow I'm going to write a small text that you could add to known problems in the documentation of the ext. Are you interested to do that?
20:24 ries yes... I am more interested to change the etxension and make it 4.1.1 compatible :)
20:25 phlogi ries: hey do you read my post??? Please! It is ____NOT____ the problem of typo3 4.1.1, I'm telling this you the 3rd time! did you got that? =)
20:26 phlogi The problem is that soup is builtin in php5!!!! and this conflicts!!! NOT the class in t3 itselfe... thats NOT the point because I got it working on varîous other typo3 4.1.1 installations. Please forget my mail!
20:28 ries phlogi: sorry I am quite buzy
20:28 ries I remember that you mentioned it was a problem with 4.1.1
20:29 ries so if not's a problem with 4.1.1, why doesn't it work then? because of a soap build in into php5?
20:29 phlogi ries: yes in the mail, but forget it. Its wrong
20:29 phlogi ries: yes exactly... builtin in php
20:29 phlogi ries: I even checked my php info and its the case
20:29 phlogi Tomorrow I will try disabling that class and see what happens
20:34 ries ok...
20:35 phlogi ries: ok... :) are you ok ries? =)
20:50 phlogi good night guys
20:51 phlogi good night andreasbalzer
21:03 titii please some one have an experience with cab_realurl_languageselector extnsion??or how to create language menu with realurl like typo3wizard.com
21:11 Denyerec any MailformPlus users here ?
21:12 titii i am trying this extension, but didnt work properly
21:12 Denyerec titii - there is an example of that language menu *ON* typo3wizard.com
21:12 Denyerec or maybe it was one of th elocalisation podcasts on typo3.org
21:13 titii Denyerec i am looking for anything but no information, tutorials... found
21:14 Denyerec there is a podcast on typo3.org
21:14 Denyerec on the "podcasts" page
21:14 titii otherwise i am working with mailformplus
21:14 Denyerec which is all about localisation
21:15 Denyerec http://typo3.org/podcast/
21:15 Denyerec "translate your site bob" or something
21:16 titii nothing in, i looked it up now
21:17 Denyerec http://castor.t3o.punkt.de/files/podkast_julestue4-localization.m4v
21:17 Denyerec You are not looking very hard... :P
21:18 Denyerec http://typo3.org/podcast/?tx_podkast_pi1%5Bpointer%5D=1&cHash=3982d63f27
21:18 Denyerec 4th one down on that page
21:20 titii sorry i know i am bad searcher, but you are n1
21:21 Denyerec Do you use mailformplus much ?
21:21 Denyerec I'm wondering where it stores the submitted emails. I haven't set it up to store to a DB table yet, and it seems to be storing results somewhere!!
21:26 titii Denyerec he has sending just an emails, if you want, you can set the dabase table to store data by TS
21:27 Denyerec that's the thing
21:27 Denyerec it's clearly stored my last 2 submissions
21:27 Denyerec I can review them in the BE
21:27 Denyerec but I have not configured it yet to do this.
21:27 titii Denyerec history about 2 posted forms?
21:27 Denyerec yes
21:28 Denyerec in CSV format
21:29 titii Denyerec i doknt know where he stored, but i know is there some options to set the DB table to storing in
21:29 Denyerec yeah I see that
21:29 Denyerec but I wanna speak to an expert before I destroy my DB :)
21:32 titii Denyerec hmm i cant see any problem, cant see the reason for destroy to something, he just insert db record
21:32 Denyerec Hehe, you don't know me :)
21:34 titii hmm i guess so :)
21:34 Denyerec I can break machines by standing near them.
21:46 joe_ hey guys, i got quite a bit of pickle here.... i installed typo3 according to the instructions and now when i go to localhost it wants me to download a phtml file. any thoughts?
21:49 Boonkerz hello
21:50 ries hey Boonkerz
21:50 Boonkerz anyone have work with special browse
21:50 Boonkerz :D
21:50 Boonkerz menu
21:54 Denyerec joe
21:54 Denyerec sounds like your webserver's not parsing the PHP files?
21:55 joe_ i guess not
21:55 joe_ :/
21:55 joe_ suggestions?
21:55 Denyerec Erm.
21:56 Denyerec Check your http.conf for the bit where it sets up file extensions
21:56 Denyerec google for "apache not parsing php files" or something.
21:56 Denyerec Sorry I'm a bit vague, but I can't remember the details
21:56 joe_ kk
22:03 dokma any ext programming gurus here?
22:25 dokma ppl my OOo writer crasher every time I open any t3 manual
22:25 dokma any1 had this prob?
22:25 Denyerec Mine is OK
22:25 Denyerec I use the POrtable one
22:25 Denyerec so I don't have to install it
22:25 dokma Denyerec u talking to me?
22:26 Denyerec yes
22:26 dokma win ?
22:26 dokma windows?
22:32 Denyerec ugh
22:32 Denyerec no idea in windows
22:36 dokma I'm just downgradin my OO to stable
22:36 dokma so we'll see
22:36 dokma Denyerec what are you by profession?
22:36 Denyerec Hmmm.
22:36 Denyerec By education, an electronic engineer.
22:36 Denyerec By profession, a graphic designer
22:37 Denyerec web designer / developer I guess you could say.
22:37 dokma cool
22:37 Denyerec "Meh"
22:37 dokma any hobbies?
22:37 Denyerec I'd rather be a drummer or a photogrpaher.
22:37 Denyerec Erm, photography and kungfu I guess.
22:37 Denyerec I can't drum as I don't have a kit anymore :(
22:37 dokma so why aren't you?
22:38 Denyerec No confidence to do photography for money.
22:38 Denyerec No drumkit to drum on :)
22:38 dokma ahhh confidence
22:38 dokma thats mortal combat for many
22:38 Denyerec hehe
22:39 dokma how old are u?
22:39 Denyerec old enough for whatever you're thinking of ;)
22:40 dokma I just turned 29 yesterday :D
22:40 dokma I'm in my prime!
22:40 dokma it's so great to be young and independent
22:40 dokma gotta love it
22:40 dokma especially now that I got my own startup
22:41 dokma strugling for bare existence
22:41 dokma if you're as hazardous as me it's the most thirling thing
22:44 Denyerec I have been poor for 3 years
22:44 Denyerec and slowly changing it.... *slowly*
22:44 Denyerec But after I finished university I decided I would not work for anyone but myself
22:48 dokma thats the move man!
22:48 dokma thats the way to do it

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