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#TYPO3 IRC log from : Thursday 7 June 2007

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00:33 tansta good morning :D
00:37 smeringe in a few hours, yes tansta :)
00:37 tansta hehehe...you wake up early smeringe
00:38 smeringe tansta: rather, soon to go to bed
00:38 tansta oh hahaha
00:38 smeringe or.. actually, I'm already in bed working :)
00:38 tansta working in bed ?
00:38 tansta you workaholic
00:38 tansta :D
00:39 tansta there should only be 2 things you should do in bed
00:39 smeringe tansta: yes I am a bit workaholic :( but I need to finalize a few things
00:39 tansta i guese for you its work and sleep :D
00:39 smeringe ;)
00:43 smeringe hm.. :)
00:56 Denyerec tansta
00:56 Denyerec you ever use Mailformplus ?
00:56 tansta yes
00:57 Denyerec Do you know how/where it stores the reponses by default ?
00:57 tansta hahaha
00:57 Denyerec I've not yet configured it to store in DB< and yet I can see all the responses in the BE
00:57 tansta i think its default function is to store it in DB
00:58 tansta and all done through TS i think
00:58 Denyerec THere is some TS you can setup to store in tt_content, for example
00:58 Denyerec but I haven't implemented any of that yet
00:58 tansta if you look at the template file there's a lot of markers
00:58 Denyerec and it's still working...
00:58 Denyerec and I can't find any temp files for it
00:58 Denyerec so it must be putting them *somewhere*
00:58 tansta hmmmm...that i wouldn't know
00:58 tansta :D
01:23 Rocketjock Hello Everyone
01:23 Rocketjock Hey ries
01:25 ries Hey Rocketjock
01:25 ries long time no seen!
01:26 Rocketjock ries: I have been real busy...how have you been?
01:27 ries really buzy myself
01:27 ries but doing good
01:33 Jonz test.
01:41 Rocketjock hi again
01:43 Rocketjock don't upgrade to php 5.2.3
01:44 Rocketjock some of the extensions will fail
01:44 Rocketjock there is an issue with referencing $this
01:48 Rocketjock has anyone else tried the new mm_forum? I was surprised...very nice
02:04 ries Rocketjock: never tried it
02:04 ries how does it compare to for example chc_forum
02:05 ries and yes.. the php devel them is kinda bad after 5.2
02:05 Rocketjock ries: I like it better then chc but not as well as some of the non-typo3 forums
02:06 Rocketjock ries: I am almost ready to go back to php4
02:06 ries I keep on using the 5.1. branche
02:07 Rocketjock ries: I should have stayed with 5.1.6... it was stable
02:08 ries Rocketjock: that's why debian and ubuntu uses it
02:08 Rocketjock lucasthurston: what part of washington do you live in?
02:08 Rocketjock ries: smart of them
02:08 lucasthurston Rocketjock: the part of Washington that's actually outside of Washington and called Oregon
02:09 lucasthurston Portland to be specific
02:09 Rocketjock lucasthurston: Oh....heheh
02:09 Rocketjock lucasthurston: where at in oragon?
02:10 lucasthurston Portland
02:10 Rocketjock lucasthurston: we are thinking of moving from montana to eugene
02:10 lucasthurston I'm from Eugene
02:10 Rocketjock lucasthurston: cool
02:10 lucasthurston and I've been to Montana
02:10 Rocketjock :)
02:10 lucasthurston why Eugene?
02:11 Rocketjock lucasthurston: The food in oragon is so much better then here... fresher, more organics...
02:11 Rocketjock lucasthurston: and better school system for the kids
02:12 Rocketjock lucasthurston: and the pay can't be any worse then here
02:12 lucasthurston Yeah, that's probably true, about the food anyway. Portland is a mecca for organic or low carbon foodprint foods
02:12 lucasthurston What with all the natural food stores and farmer's markets
02:13 Rocketjock lucasthurston: and I am originally from Alaska... I kinda miss the rain
02:13 Rocketjock lucasthurston: and giant mosquitos..hehehe
02:14 lucasthurston Never been to Alaska but it sounds great. My sister is there right now in some tiny town with a big, old mine building giving tours and working for my cousin's rafting/adventure company
02:15 Rocketjock lucasthurston: the wife has family in eugene and I have family in seattle area
02:15 Rocketjock lucasthurston: sounds like fun!!
02:16 lucasthurston not a lot of TYPO3 out here
02:16 lucasthurston but some
02:16 Rocketjock lucasthurston: not alot in the US yet...
02:18 Rocketjock well I am off to work on a test server... so I don't screw up another production box testing the new php.... customers we not happy :(
02:18 lucasthurston whoops
02:18 lucasthurston ok, later
02:18 Rocketjock lucasthurston: we may be heading your way this fall...
02:18 Rocketjock for a visit to the inlaws
02:18 ries lucasthurston: sounds like a good place for a typo3 team-building session :)
02:19 Rocketjock lucasthurston: I like the sound of that :)
02:19 Rocketjock nite
02:19 Rocketjock nite ries
02:19 lucasthurston later
02:19 ries light Rocketjock
02:19 ries night
02:58 salamandyr hey folks - is there a good forum plugin?
02:58 salamandyr er.. extension.
02:58 ries salamandyr: define good..
02:58 ries but there is chc_forum
02:58 salamandyr functional
02:58 ries and mm_forum
02:58 salamandyr and non-buggy :)
02:58 ries somebody just said that mm_forum is not bad at all
02:58 salamandyr cool
02:58 ries ofcourse, it is not as much featured as phpBB or others
02:58 salamandyr right
02:59 jsfan hi everyone
02:59 salamandyr so no phpbb extension for typo3? :)
02:59 jsfan salamandyr, phpbb is only for people who want to get hacked, anyway.
02:59 jsfan the code quality seems to be poor.
03:00 salamandyr unfortunately, it's so popular that it defines what a forum is
03:01 jsfan it also defines how easily most forums are hacked :(
03:09 ries salamandyr: there are SSO extensions...
03:10 ries but it doesn't intergrate liek how extensions intergrate
03:43 salamandyr ries: thanks
04:01 d|g hi all
04:12 jsfan hi d|g
04:21 d|g jsfan hi =)
05:21 stanman ey
05:22 stanman anyone awake here? I'm new to typo 3 and just tried to install it, but i'm getting errors trying to access the myfirsttypo3 site
05:28 d|g stanman, show errors ;)
05:29 stanman open_basedir restriction in effect. File(/var/lib/typo3/typo3_src-3.5.0/tslib/index_ts.php) is not within the allowed path(s):
05:30 stanman whoops, sorry, here is all
05:30 stanman Warning: Unknown(): open_basedir restriction in effect. File(/var/lib/typo3/typo3_src-3.5.0/tslib/index_ts.php) is not within the allowed path(s): (.:/tmp:/local/web/global:/usr/share/php:/local/web/websites/1134972773:/local/web/websites/wbns.nl) in Unknown on line 0
05:30 stanman Warning: Unknown(/var/lib/typo3/typo3_src-3.5.0/tslib/index_ts.php): failed to open stream: Operation not permitted in Unknown on line 0
05:30 stanman Warning: Unknown(): open_basedir restriction in effect. File(/var/lib/typo3/typo3_src-3.5.0/tslib/index_ts.php) is not within the allowed path(s): (.:/tmp:/local/web/global:/usr/share/php:/local/web/websites/1134972773:/local/web/websites/wbns.nl) in Unknown on line 0
05:30 stanman Warning: Unknown(/var/lib/typo3/typo3_src-3.5.0/tslib/index_ts.php): failed to open stream: Operation not permitted in Unknown on line 0
05:30 stanman Warning: (null)() [function.include]: Failed opening '/var/lib/typo3/typo3_src-3.5.0/tslib/index_ts.php' for inclusion (include_path='.:/php/includes:/usr/share/php') in Unknown on line 0
05:31 d|g typo3 3.5.0? 4.0.6 & 4.1.1 is last
05:32 stanman well... i did the typo3-site-installer
05:32 stanman from: http://wiki.typo3.org/index.php/Debian
05:32 d|g ok =)
05:33 stanman why? not ok?
05:34 d|g your msges seems like permissions problem
05:36 stanman does apache need permissions?
05:36 stanman is 4.0.6 stable for debian?
05:38 d|g i don't use debian
05:41 d|g may be this hepl to you http://wiki.typo3.org/index.php/Debian_installation_manual
05:42 stanman ok, i'll give it a try, thanks!
05:47 jsfan d|g, this wasn't a debian issue :(
05:48 zatmania hi #typo3
05:48 jsfan hi zatmania
05:49 jsfan d|g, he could just have fixed his apache config and it would have worked.
05:49 jsfan d|g, even on debian 4.0.x would be the way to go now... :(
05:50 jsfan the wiki talks about debian woody. sarge has been stable for a year or so now! :(
06:05 zatmania hi jsfan
06:05 zatmania hi Jigal
06:12 Jigal hi zatmania, #typo3
06:13 uschi morning Jigal and Zatmania and the rest of this t3 living room
06:25 jsfan hi Jigal
06:25 jsfan hi uschi
06:29 uschi morning jsfan
06:29 jsfan hm, late afternoon, uschi ;)
06:30 uschi first coffee for me, jsfan :)
06:30 jsfan i just had my last one, i reckon ;)
06:39 Phlogiston_ good morning uschi, Jigal
06:40 uschi morning Phlogiston_
06:40 Phlogiston_ hmm i need to change my name and then will finally register :)
06:43 Phlogi jipiii hello
06:45 zatmania hi uschi
06:45 uschi hi zatmania
06:55 Phlogi ries not here yet hmm :)
06:59 Jigal Phlogi: I think he's still asleep; most of the time he's here 5-7 hours from now...
07:01 Phlogi Jigal: hehe yes
07:07 uschi dax77 did not turn up either yet
07:15 smeringe Phlogi: are you now know registered as Phlogi? (so I know who you are.. :P)
07:15 uschi same question from me, Phlogi
07:20 uschi *g*
07:21 smeringe guten morgen alle suzammen btw
07:21 uschi morning smeringe
07:24 jan___ hello guys :)
07:31 smeringe hi jan___
07:32 jan___ hi..
07:32 jan___ it'll be a warm day today
07:33 jan___ ...
07:33 smeringe yup
07:42 Phlogi yes I'm Phlogiston :) hehe
07:42 Phlogi hallo leute
07:43 jan___ no german plz ;)
07:43 jan___ ^^
07:46 Jigal jan___: 'leute' is no German; it's a type of Belgian strong dark ale: http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/48/2497 :-)
07:48 jan___ @jigal: lol ok ... thats one thing my mind don't know ;)
07:52 smeringe Jigal: is it any good? I'd surely like an ale, no computer, no work, and a chair and sun..
07:53 Jigal smeringe: I don't know; I was just curious if 'leute' would have another meaning and google came up with this ale LOL
07:53 smeringe lol :D
07:53 smeringe sweet
07:53 Phlogi lo jan___
08:18 Fanty Anyone know how to track the users in regards to how much time they spend in the system, what pages they visit etc?
08:21 Jigal Fanty: several possibilities: install one of the statistics extensions, add google analytics js code to pages, use a access log analyzer, etc.
08:25 Fanty the general problem is I have a "group login" feature allowing several people to be logged into the same session... But the loginusertrack looks promising
08:29 michimueller hi there!
08:29 Jigal Fanty: a PHP session cookie should differentiate between different computer who happen to use the same login. If the extension uses that, here is no issut with group logins IMHO
08:30 Fanty Jigal: its 3 people using the same computer, same browser
08:31 Jigal Fanty: and same login? that's the same person with a split personality :-)
08:32 Fanty no they have 3 different logins.. and have to login seperately
08:33 Jigal Fanty: anyway, you don't expect to store information that can identify a certain user in you statistics?
08:34 Fanty Jigal: I need to track the individual users, yes
08:37 Jigal Fanty: that's not considered to be very decent, unless they explicitely gave permission to do so. Tracking anonymous individual users is generally not a problem.
08:37 Fanty Jigal: Its for e-learning. its ok :p
08:38 Jigal Fanty: when you logout the PHPsession cookie can/must be destroyed; this way when someone logs out and another one logs in on the same machine a different session is started...
08:41 uschi dear friends, i need your help
08:41 Fanty Jigal: I'm not messing creating or destruction of the PHPsession cookie
08:41 uschi i would like to install typo3 under windows using ntfs links
08:42 uschi in case i installed the core under /t3sources/typo3_4.1.1
08:42 Fanty Jigal: I've implemented the group login by adding a field to the session and handling all logins with a custom made login extension
08:42 uschi and then had some other directory for my htdocs
08:43 Jigal Fanty: I was just explaning that if an extension uses phpsessions there would be no problem with the three ladies sharing the same computer...
08:43 uschi i know that i have to set a link inside htdocs to the t3sources/typo3_4.1.1/typo3/
08:44 Fanty Jigal: no, but I would loose tracking for all but the first one logged in being any tracking extensions naturally wouldn't track on any users "group logged in"
08:44 uschi but are there any other symlinks i have to set inside the core?
08:44 Denyerec Jigal, you much of a MailformPlus user?
08:44 uschi Denyerec, do you know?
08:45 Jigal Denyerec: haven't used it myself...
08:47 Denyerec do I know what sorry
08:47 Denyerec I just woke up
08:47 Denyerec OUUUUUUCH
08:47 Jigal uschi: in root: media -> tslib/media
08:47 Denyerec Typo3 on NTFS ?
08:47 Denyerec Sorry for this uschi
08:47 Denyerec but...
08:47 Denyerec BWAHahahahahAAHHAHahahahaha
08:47 Denyerec *cough*
08:47 uschi why, Denyerec?
08:47 Denyerec NTFS filing system and linkpoints
08:47 Denyerec Never had good experiences with it.
08:48 uschi well, some other people have, Denyerec
08:48 Denyerec Yes, but asking me for help will not.... help :)
08:48 uschi Jigal, in DOCUMENT_ROOT that is?
08:48 Denyerec There are only 3 symlinks (4?) you need set
08:48 Denyerec And they are only for convenience
08:48 Jigal uschi: oh wait, you have a different document root...
08:48 Jigal hmmm
08:49 uschi i need one from doc_root to core/typo3
08:54 Ruudi hello
08:54 Jigal uschi: there are several symlinks in the document root in 'normal' UNIX installation. I guess that they are supposed to point to the right places when have different location for doc root and typo3 root...
08:54 Ruudi should it be possible to use tt_news without using "General Record Storage page:"
08:54 Ruudi it doesnt show my category listing without it
08:55 uschi Jigal, how do i find out thos several symlinks, because i do find only one
08:56 uschi when i install t3 under linux i only have to symlink docroot/typo3 to core/typo3
08:56 Jigal uschi: on this server it has: index.php -> tslib/index_ts.php ; media -> tslib/media ; showpic.php -> tslib/showpic.php ; tslib ->typo3_src/tslbi/ (all in the doc root)
08:57 uschi which version, Jigal?
08:57 Jigal uschi: checking....
08:57 uschi thx
08:57 Jigal uschi: this machine has a 3.8.1
08:58 uschi aah, ok, they removed some symlinks in 4.0
08:58 uschi so how can i find out which symlinks are set on a linux server
09:02 Denyerec uschi
09:03 Denyerec is it not just the 4 main symlinks ?
09:03 Denyerec I have got it working just by copying the source into the site folder
09:03 Denyerec and doing away with the symlinks all together
09:04 dokma can someone tell me where can I read about preparing pages for printing in typo3?
09:04 dokma for an ext I'm working on
09:04 Denyerec as PDF or just with a print stylesheet?
09:04 dokma for starters I would just use a print stylesheet
09:05 uschi This is a solution i do not want
09:05 uschi and which four main symlinks do you mean, Denyerec?
09:05 Jigal uschi, Denyerec : aren't there a couple of CONSTANTS in PHP that hold the absolute path to the doc/root and others like that??
09:05 Denyerec index.php, typo3_src
09:05 Denyerec in fact
09:06 uschi if i install 4.x i only have to adjust one symlink: the one to typo3
09:06 Denyerec typo3_src points to the folder, and the other 3 symlinks just point to that one.
09:06 dokma uschi you can find all symlinks in a folder like this: 'find . -type l'
09:06 uschi aaah thx
09:07 dokma uschi I've setup my server so that when I change the sources all I need is modify on symlink
09:07 dokma is that what you want?
09:07 uschi i know how to do this under linux
09:07 dokma all I need is to modify one symlink
09:07 uschi there i only have to adjust one symlink
09:07 dokma I see
09:07 uschi but now i want to simulate that under windows
09:07 uschi using ntfs links
09:07 dokma uhoh
09:08 dokma I wish you the best of luck
09:08 dokma I am sorry for you having to use windows
09:09 uschi you do not have to be sorry
09:09 uschi i just realised that i can see which symlinks are set
09:09 uschi it is double symlinked
09:10 uschi typo3_src points to the core directory
09:10 uschi and the others point to typo3_src/somepath
09:10 dokma that's normal setup
09:11 uschi yes, and i suppose that can be simulated with ntfs-links
09:22 michimueller uschi, there is a tool for windows which simulates links in filesystem
09:23 michimueller you could use that for simulating the same effect as under linux
09:23 uschi i know, michimueller
09:23 michimueller it only works with ntfs filesystems - not with fat
09:23 michimueller ok
09:23 uschi this is what i want to try out right now
09:23 michimueller ok
09:23 michimueller *quiet*
09:23 michimueller :)
09:23 uschi but i will come back to you
09:24 michimueller you know the organisation of the links in the t3 folder?
09:24 uschi first step was finding out which symlinks are set on linux
09:24 michimueller there are in fact 4 links
09:24 uschi three of them pointing to typo3_src/somepath
09:24 michimueller 3 that point to 1 which points to the external directory
09:24 michimueller hehe
09:24 Boonkerz hello
09:24 michimueller you were faster ;)
09:24 Boonkerz anyone have work with browse?
09:24 Boonkerz special im menu
09:25 uschi yes
09:25 michimueller uschi, so is it clear to you?
09:25 uschi the beginning yes
09:25 michimueller let me take a look on my server
09:26 IT-Globalized hi all.. I'm back again... noone has still posted a message on https://www.it-globalized.com/project_page.aspx?ProjectID=144
09:26 IT-Globalized if you are interested in some typo3 work, have a look and post a message on the project =)
09:27 michimueller you have a shared folder with all the sources that can be used globally
09:27 michimueller this is t3lib, typo3, typo3_src, typo3_src_alt and index.php
09:27 uschi yes
09:28 uschi got it so far
09:28 michimueller you can put those folders and the file in one directory to which you point with your first link
09:28 michimueller so no questions left?
09:28 uschi do not know currently, michimueller
09:28 michimueller ok
09:28 uschi i have a folder t3sources/ which will contain different versions of the core
09:28 michimueller ok
09:29 uschi and then a place where all the projects are stored
09:29 michimueller so far so good :)
09:29 uschi this how it is organized on my gentoo server as well
09:29 michimueller I did the same on my server
09:29 uschi and now i would like to simulate this under windows, so that i can start programming extensions locally
09:30 uschi and adjust css-files and so on without constantly having to upload stuff
09:30 michimueller ok
09:31 michimueller are there any direct_mail developers out there?
09:31 michimueller wanted to try out 2.5 - but the current version is 2.2 in the extrep
09:34 IT-Globalized michimueller - my question, is there any typo3 developers out there who would like some work? seems so far it's hard to find anyone
09:35 IT-Globalized hehe
09:35 michimueller IT-Globalized, let me take a loo on your link
09:36 michimueller hm
09:36 michimueller Database driven Website for 100 - 500$
09:36 eeos hi everybody
09:36 ITGlobalized michi - I know where
09:36 ITGlobalized whoops
09:36 michimueller perhaps you should change the budget
09:37 michimueller eeos, you mean where to get the current version?
09:37 ITGlobalized I know there
09:37 ITGlobalized igh... my keyboard
09:37 eeos michimueller: what are you talking about? Are you selling your soul for 100-500$?
09:37 michimueller eeos, sorry - wrong nick :(
09:37 eeos michimueller: current version of what????
09:37 eeos michimueller: :D
09:37 michimueller I'm a little tired - so confused the lines
09:38 eeos michimueller: do not worry, just having a laugh!
09:38 michimueller :)
09:38 eeos michimueller: 100-500$ is ridicoulous for a typo3 project.
09:38 eeos michimueller: cannot even start
09:38 ITGlobalized michimuelIer know there's not much detail, but the person is looking for an hourly rate, not a quote for a website
09:38 michimueller yes - but you should give it a little more details
09:39 ITGlobalized it's not me who posted it... I can't control the buyers :/
09:40 michimueller you are organazing the platform?
09:40 ITGlobalized yup
09:40 michimueller ah - got it now
09:41 ITGlobalized :) - most people get that confused
09:44 ITGlobalized anyway, for those who may be interested - https://www.it-globalized.com/project_page.aspx?ProjectID=144 for a project by a buyer (not me :D), who is interested in someone to give a quote on an hourly rate for typo3 work...
09:45 ITGlobalized I assume more detail would be provided once people post a message/hourly rate... I've gotta head off... good night/morning/afternoon all :)
09:47 eeos michimueller: I got a look to it, but the advert seems a bit ambiguous.
09:47 eeos michimueller: it looks like they want to know how much we charge for one hour
09:47 null0_ gm
09:48 eeos we = people who develop solutions using typo3
09:48 michimueller eeos, could be
09:48 eeos michimueller: but we do now quote an hourly rate ever
09:48 eeos michimueller: we quote by project
09:48 michimueller donnu - have no free time to offer ;)
09:48 eeos michimueller: if we have very large projects, the hourly rate is lower than for small projects ....
09:49 eeos michimueller: same here at the moment
09:49 eeos michimueller: we are actually recruiting!
09:50 ITGlobalized hmm interesting, so in essence normally fixed price projects (i.e. like what ITG is optimised for) - you don't do any contracting agreements based on labour + resources?
09:51 eeos ITGlobalized: no, we work by project
09:51 eeos ITGlobalized: nearly everybod does
09:51 eeos ITGlobalized: because small projects have lot of management
09:51 eeos ITGlobalized: more or less like a big / medium project
09:51 eeos ITGlobalized: so you end up with a higher hourly rate
09:51 eeos ITGlobalized: does it make sense?
09:52 ITGlobalized eeos: yeh offcourse (I've been doing development myself in the past...) The project I'm currently on though is a bit different most us have a daily rate of 1000-2000 USD, but that's a very very very large project
09:53 eeos ITGlobalized: I do not know, we quote euro / pound
09:53 eeos ITGlobalized: how uch is that in euro / pound?
09:53 eeos (one of the two)
09:54 ITGlobalized 750-1500 euro if I got my conversion right
09:54 ITGlobalized roughly anyway
09:54 eeos ITGlobalized: ok
09:55 eeos ITGlobalized: yes, so you see 100-500$ we do not even sped the time to discuss it
09:55 eeos ITGlobalized: the management of the customer and of the project is the most expensive part of the project
09:56 eeos ITGlobalized: you remember last day when you came everybody said they should give more details and change the budget
09:56 eeos ITGlobalized: that is what we meant
09:56 eeos ITGlobalized: does it make sense?
09:57 ITGlobalized yeh... I can feed that back to the buyer.. i.e. that noone is interested unless there are specifics and noone is interested in giving an hourly quote (at least that's what it seems like)
09:57 eeos ITGlobalized: I cannot speak for everybody else, but we are not for sure
09:58 eeos ITGlobalized: and for that price we do not even contact them
09:58 ITGlobalized yep, and it seems like that from the other people I've had a chat with
09:58 eeos ITGlobalized: just so you do not waste your time, I am sorry
10:00 ITGlobalized I appreshiate your feedback, particularly so I don't waste more time =).. then at least I can feed something back to the buyer... I'll come back if there's a better description =)
10:01 eeos ITGlobalized: :) keep i mind that we would not consider a project with a budget under 5,000 euro
10:01 eeos ITGlobalized: unless is a very special case (an existing customer, someone we know, and so o)
10:01 Jigal eeos: to whom do you send the bill for the last 10 minutes? ;-P
10:02 eeos Jigal: I am on break!!!!
10:02 eeos Jigal: (and I am one of the major shareholders, so I do what I want)
10:02 ITGlobalized hehehe
10:02 eeos some people in white coat take /me away
10:03 paca hi all
10:04 paca i'm just finishing my first typo3 site
10:04 bohne hi all
10:04 paca I would like to ask one question?
10:05 bohne ask
10:05 paca How I define startpage id?
10:05 Phlogi_ Am I an idiot or is it just impossible to hide CE's in TV?
10:06 uschi This is something i was asking myself, Phlogi_
10:06 eeos Phlogi_: CE?
10:07 paca now i got empty page from my "root page"
10:07 eeos paca: when you define the root page of the website that is the start page
10:07 eeos paca: or did I not undestand the question?
10:08 paca always? I would like tho change default value of id-parameter
10:09 Phlogi_ eeos: Content Element... like an image or some text...
10:09 Phlogi_ uschi: if its not possible then TV sucks.,,. and someone or myself really need to implement that
10:09 Phlogi_ uschi: oh I found it... if you click on the small image of the CE you can select from there
10:09 uschi Phlogi_, you can always get it back
10:10 uschi same as with missing palette for additional header fields
10:10 uschi you "only" have to fiddle around with $TCA
10:11 eeos Phlogi_: in what sense do you want to hide them?
10:12 eeos Phlogi_: as in not having the tv marker? or as in beig hidde at creation?
10:14 Phlogi_ eeos: just like hiding a page...
10:14 Phlogi_ eeos: this is a nice feature I think...
10:14 eeos Phlogi_: then click on the icon of the ce, and chose hide
10:15 eeos Phlogi_: using typoscritp you can set so that they are created in hideen status
10:16 uschi hm, eeos, and what if i want to switch them on and off?
10:16 eeos uschi: can you reformulate the question? do you mean manually?
10:16 uschi yes
10:16 eeos Phlogi_: then click on the icon of the ce, and chose hide
10:17 eeos uschi: as I said!
10:17 Phlogi_ eeos: ready my posts :D
10:17 uschi which icon?
10:17 Phlogi_ eeos: read... I found it out...
10:17 FratG anyone created a new content type to appear under the typical page content section?
10:17 Phlogi_ uschi: the icon of the content element
10:17 eeos uschi: then click on the icon of the ce, and chose hide
10:17 Phlogi_ its quite small uschi
10:17 eeos Phlogi_: sorry, wrong nick
10:17 Phlogi_ uschi: its near the language flag, on the right of it
10:17 eeos in the page view, in TV
10:18 Phlogi_ :)
10:18 eeos uschi: there is an icon representing the ce
10:18 uschi ok, found it :))
10:18 eeos uschi: that icon
10:18 uschi learned again :)
10:18 Phlogi_ :)
10:18 Phlogi_ TV is cool most of the time ;)
10:18 uschi and there even is a checkbox
10:19 uschi under General options, only that it is in a different place than in the pages dialogue
10:20 ITGlobalized r'ight... I've just sent of an email to the buyer... will be back if they decide to re-post the project with more detail
10:20 uschi yes, but it has its shortcomings at times
10:20 ITGlobalized take care yall
10:20 eeos uschi: ot that complicated is it?
10:20 uschi no
10:21 Jigal paca: was that answer enought to help you? sometimes it's a bit busy here and you have to ask a few more times :-)
10:21 uschi but if i am confused, my editors certainly will be
10:21 FratG anyone created a new content type to appear under the typical page content section?
10:23 eeos FratG: explain please
10:24 FratG instead of someone selecting Text and then having to change to a new content type is there a way to replace/add to the top list of New Content Element
10:25 FratG So there would be Regular Text Element / Text With Image / My New Type
10:33 eeos FratG: you have lost me
10:33 eeos FratG: has always been like that
10:34 FratG eeos: I was just wondering if anyone had changed the options available on that page - clients understand big icons better than drop-down lists
10:39 Denyerec How would you all provide an editable table to your end client, with zebra-stripe rows?
10:39 Denyerec EG alternating colour rows
10:39 Denyerec I can't help but think that javascript is the only way to achieve this
10:39 Denyerec As the typo table wizard, well, sucks.
10:40 eeos FratG:they did not change it afaik
10:42 eeos Denyerec: there is a RTE htmlarea table wizard
10:42 FratG eeos: I think I can amend that list in cms/layout and go from there
10:42 eeos Denyerec: it is ok but not fantastic
10:42 eeos Denyerec: steady steady man
10:42 Denyerec the standard CE table wizaxrd sucks
10:42 Denyerec it's way too primative
10:42 Denyerec and the tables it generates are not very good.
10:42 Denyerec No colgroups, headers, etc.
10:43 Denyerec I have a design here for a better one, just don't know how to code it into Typo.
10:43 smeringe there is another table editor ext, ugly, but better at least..
10:43 Denyerec There is ?
10:44 smeringe I think it was th_exttable
10:44 Denyerec I tried searching the repo but a lot of extensions use the word "table" so I got bored fast
10:44 smeringe dont know how far it reaches though
10:44 Jigal Denyerec: there are decent js/css solutions for alternating rows...
10:44 Denyerec in pure CSS you can't win in IE
10:45 Denyerec as it's hopelessly shit
10:45 Denyerec WOrks in Opera, though :D
10:45 eeos Denyerec: +1
10:45 smeringe :)
10:45 Denyerec tr:nth-child(even) for the win!
10:46 Denyerec Sadly, Microsoft will never allow that level of simplicity to become a reality
10:46 eeos Denyerec: have you tried with defining a class for tr but setting the color for td?
10:46 Denyerec Too many browser inconsistencies
10:50 eeos :(
10:50 eeos if you set the mrgi padding border to 0 in tr,
10:50 eeos then you can use the class in td
10:54 eeos mrgi = margin
10:57 eeos so you set the bacgound colour in all the td in one specific tr
10:57 eeos IE works well with that Denyerec
10:57 Denyerec oK
10:57 Denyerec I want to rewrite a function in an extension class
10:58 Denyerec how the hell do I start? :)
11:01 Jigal Denyerec: I'm not sure I understand your question. Do you want to modify a function in a class of an extension?
11:01 Denyerec Yes Jigal
11:01 Denyerec I want to change render_table() in class.tx_cssstyledcontent_pi1.php
11:01 Denyerec to add colgroups and alternating row classes
11:02 Jigal Denyerec: start the Extension Manager, lookup the extension, select it, in upper right hand corner select "Edit files" from select box and you can edit the extension (if the right have not been revoked in the site configuration)
11:02 Denyerec But if I want to release it on the TER
11:02 Denyerec doesn't it need to be an extension extension ?
11:03 Denyerec as I could just hack the source PHP without kickstarter
11:03 Jigal I would first contact the author and send him your modifications, he may like them and upload them as a new release
11:03 Denyerec True
11:05 Jigal if that doesn't work you can modify ext_emconf.php and add your data, regenerate emconf in the backup/delete window and export is a new extension...
11:07 Denyerec is there no way to simply extend the classes of an existing extension ?
11:07 Denyerec just say "yo,use this function instead"
11:10 Jigal Denyerec: you can make user versions of classes in the core, but I don't know if that is supported for extensions. Anyway, I wouldn't recommend this (also not for core files) as it becomes very unclear during debugging that another 'version' of a class overloaded the original functions.
11:10 Denyerec ah
11:11 Jigal Denyerec: one solution would be to rename the file and the class, create a new file and class with the original name, include the old version and say that the class extends the old version. That would inherit all functions from the old version and you can provide new versions of functions you want to change...
11:12 Denyerec So the extension would include both classes ?
11:12 Denyerec I would get a PHP error on attempting to redefine, though
11:13 Jigal Denyerec: an example:
11:14 Jigal file: tx_mytable_pi1.php with class tx_mytable_pi1
11:14 Jigal copy the file to tx_mytable_pi1_org.php and rename the class to tx_mytable_pi1_org
11:15 Jigal in the original file put an include('tx_mytalbe_pi1_org.php'); before the class definition
11:16 Jigal and change the the definition to class tx_mytable_pi1 extends tx_mytable_pi1_org
11:16 Jigal you can now remove all functions from the new class definition except for the function you want to change.
11:18 michimueller hm - took me some time to configure direct mail - everything worked fine, then I started to edit the plaintext template. Now there is only the parsetime left in the mail, allthough all markers for content etc. are set in the template. Any ideas?
11:19 eeos Jigal: would it not be better to build an enhanced extension from the previous extension and release as new extension?
11:20 eeos Jigal: well, keeping in mind tha would make extensions proliferate
11:21 Jigal eeos: that was one of the options I suggested a while ago, but Denyerec wanted to... eh... how did he frase that...
11:21 Jigal eeos: "just say "yo, use this function instead" "
11:21 Denyerec I'll just mod the source
11:21 Denyerec and then send it to the author
11:21 Denyerec let him deal with it
11:21 Denyerec :)
11:21 Jigal eeos: and what Denyerec now said was my first suggestion :-)
11:22 eeos Jigal: Denyerec is a good man, he signed to anti-extension-proliferation-treaty
11:22 Denyerec hehehe
11:22 Jigal ROFL
11:24 eeos I say, how long still to go before lunch?
11:25 Jigal minus 1 hour 33 minutes ;-)
11:25 eeos tomorrow I start some short holydays and I already am in a holiday mood
11:25 eeos :)
11:25 eeos minus 59 minues here
11:26 Jigal I hope to start my in-between-jobs-holiday soon :-)
11:26 eeos Jigal: in between which jobs?
11:27 Jigal eeos: my current one at an advertising agency and my new one at a typo3 internet company (alterNET B.V.)
11:28 michimueller *crying*... changing only 1 charakter in the plaintext template and nothing works anymore... ARGH
11:28 eeos Jigal: congratulations for the second one!!!!
11:28 Jigal eeos: thank you :-)
11:29 eeos what will you be doing?
11:30 eeos Jigal: at the new job, I mean
11:31 eeos Jigal: typo3 development?
11:32 Jigal eeos: building typo3 sites, extensions, maybe train people in using TYPO3 later on; I don't think anything that is not related to TYPO3 :-)
11:32 eeos wow!
11:38 null0_ ahoi....
11:39 ries morning
11:39 ries afternoon
11:39 ries evening?
11:41 jan___ afterevening ;)
11:42 michimueller noone there to help me with direct_mail plaintext template?!?
11:55 Jigal hi Ries
11:55 eeos ries: hi there
11:55 eeos enjoy your lunches!!!!
11:56 ries hey Jigal and eeos-away
11:58 Jigal ries: Phlogi/Phlogiston_ was looking for you this morning around 9 AM (GMT+1); I told him that you usually get here 5-7 hours later and you did :-D
12:01 dax77 hi @all
12:02 Jigal hi dax77
12:02 ries Jigal: yeaaa he is playing with the ltg_googlesearch extension
12:02 ries apparently PHP5 intriduced a class name for soap that is exactly teh same name of one of the classes used in eim2nusoap
12:03 Jigal michimueller: only advise I can give you is to go back to the original and make your changes gradually; empty a lot of caches in the process and see where it goes wrong...
12:03 michimueller Jigal, thanks
12:03 ries Often the problem with typo3 is that users love to use the extensions found on TER... But when something is wrong nobody is willing to stup up and fix things and send in bug/patch requests
12:03 michimueller I think the template gets cached somewhere and I can't empty the cache
12:03 michimueller that sucks
12:04 Jigal michimueller: you can empty most caches in the backend
12:04 michimueller I know all that - but it simply doesn't work
12:05 Jigal ries: or even error reports!
12:05 michimueller I delete the file and put it back on the server - than it SOMETIMES works
12:05 michimueller looks like poor coding...
12:05 ries Jigal: yup!!!
12:05 michimueller other users seam to have the same problem
12:05 michimueller lots of entries in forums about that, but no answers :(
12:07 Jigal michimueller: any one of that users contacted the author or in case of an extension by Kasper or other core developers, written on one of the e-mail lists?
12:07 michimueller dunno - I didn't
12:07 michimueller I read an article about a new version in the T3N Magazin
12:07 michimueller but this version is nowhere to be found
12:07 michimueller so I'm not sure which bugs are fixed and which are not
12:08 Jigal ries: Why hasn't PHP introduced some kind of naming scheme for their own extensions/classes? (Rethorical question) Would cause far less problems....
12:08 michimueller all the people working on T3 really do a great work - but sometimes the most important thing is left of: documentation - that's very sad
12:08 ries because it's php :D
12:09 ries Jigal: They don't have naming/usage schema's for anything... That's why all function names and parameter passing is such a mess
12:10 Jigal michimueller: funny you mention it; some time ago there was a questionnaire about TYPO3, what people like/disliked/what was missing. A lot people told they filled in "documentation" in a lot places :-)
12:10 michimueller hm - yes
12:11 michimueller you know some of my friends and me are sharing their admin - accounts on their T3 pages - just to be able to copy ts that we found while searching for hours for a certain problem
12:11 michimueller some people skip using T3 because of that
12:12 michimueller for example base cal
12:12 michimueller It took me days to find out how to put my time format in a 24h format
12:12 michimueller others would have stopped using it...
12:13 michimueller I'm not sure wether it's a lack of money for the developers or wether they want to use their extensions only for themselves...
12:13 Jigal michimueller: direct_mail is by Kasper, so it's part of the standard TYPO3 stuff. Version 2.2.0 seems to be the latest version in TER. I haven't seen the article in T3N, but one could ask the author of that article where a newer version can be found...
12:13 michimueller it's announced as direct_mail 2.5
12:14 michimueller unfortunately the softlink in the magazine doesn't work
12:14 Phlogi hmm when I go to my tt_news list page, change the language to english. The news are in english as it should be. When I click on the more button then, the detailed news are displayed in normal language :(
12:14 michimueller I just bought it yesterday
12:20 michimueller Jigal, I just sent an email to the author of the article
12:20 michimueller let's see what happens
12:20 michimueller funniest effect ever...
12:21 il72 I've made FE plugin how showed on episode3_newsound_VD.wmv video. But plugin shows 0 records (
12:22 michimueller If I look at the generated plaintext page in my browser, I first get the rendered email. Then I create a Newsletter via directmail of this page and there is no content... only after clearing the cache, the browser shows the content again, but direct_mail still fetches no content
12:23 michimueller seems like direct mail would effect the way, the output of the page is created
12:23 michimueller I'm about to put my head in a bucket of sand
12:23 Jigal michimueller: "direct_mail fetches no content", you check that by reading the e-mail?
12:23 michimueller jepp
12:23 michimueller the mail is empty
12:24 michimueller not even the text in the template is shown
12:24 michimueller nor is it shown in the browser afterwards
12:24 michimueller that definitively is a bug
12:26 Jigal michimueller: your template doesn't start with \r\n\r\n (CRLFCRLF)?
12:26 michimueller before direct mail - action, my page looks like that:
12:26 michimueller http://www.kaktusteam.de/index.php?id=262&type=99
12:26 michimueller ähm - nope - it doesn't
12:26 michimueller does it have to?!?
12:27 michimueller now it does...
12:27 michimueller I will try
12:27 Jigal No, but that is the signal for end-of-the-message-block for talking directly to e-mail servers :-)
12:28 michimueller Jigal, did you take a look at the url
12:28 michimueller same effect
12:28 null0_ michimueller: do you use TV?
12:28 michimueller yes
12:28 null0_ pint=1 instead oftype=99
12:29 null0_ print=1
12:29 michimueller ok
12:29 michimueller *try*
12:29 Jigal michimueller: well, at least the version in the browser is the same as in the e-mail LOL
12:29 michimueller LOL
12:29 michimueller yes
12:29 michimueller Jigal, take a look now!
12:30 michimueller null0_, it gives me an empty page
12:30 michimueller LOL
12:30 null0_ i read TV and directmail + plaintext, does not work :)
12:30 null0_ propper
12:30 michimueller omg
12:30 michimueller thanks!
12:30 null0_ itried this for days too
12:30 michimueller it worked till I started to edit the template
12:30 Phlogi ah it works... the plugin was not there for other lang :)
12:31 Jigal Phlogi: in TypoScript you mean?
12:32 Phlogi Jigal: no no all clear now :)
12:33 Phlogi ries: hey hey it was php5, when I swichted to php4 it works.... so hmm yes... I don't use the ext now... I'm doing it with normal html google code stuff :)
12:33 ries alright....
12:34 ries phlogi: why don't you fix it in send me a new version?
12:34 Phlogi ries: atm I have no time and I don't know how to fix it... becase it does not work with php5 built in soap lib... and I never used that lib...
12:34 Phlogi I'm sorry...
12:46 Phlogi ries: do you feel angry now because of this?
12:47 ries No.....
12:47 ries Just that I am buzy doing something else
12:48 Phlogi anyone knows if I can change the width of the different content areas in a templavoila template in the Page view? I mean if you have like 3 columns but mainly use the first column, is it possible to make the other two smaller? Or can I change the order or position?
12:55 ries phlogi: it's possible and you can even alter the format completely ... I lost the doc where I did read it though
13:01 Phlogi ries: hmm ok
13:03 Phlogi Hmm my tt_news plugin inserted can't remember the categorys I selected. I mean I can chose them, save it and it works. But if I ever go into that plugin again: No categorys are selected.
13:07 smeringe I am who I am and noone else..
13:11 Phlogi how can that be: I have set tt_news settings on my root page and no I want to overide a setting with: plugin.tt_news.displaySingle.subheader_stdWrap.wrap = <p class="news_subheader_press"> | </p>, but it gets ignored .(
13:12 Phlogi ah now it works... :)
13:13 smeringe your welcome Phlogi ;)
13:17 Phlogi smeringe: *lach*
13:19 cozwei Hi, is it possible to export the uploaded images in the t3d-file also? I'm using TV and TYPO3 4.0.2 -> TYPO3 4.1.1
13:20 cozwei And I'm missing the images :-/
13:20 koomi look into your uploads folder
13:21 cozwei Yeah, in the old one there are the images, but not in the new one. Therefore I copied the ones from the old folder to the new. But still, no image is shown
13:21 cozwei I have <img ...> in the core, but attributes are empty
13:22 cozwei <img src="" width="" height="" alt="" />
13:22 cozwei not core, html
13:22 voidus cozwei: check GD and IM
13:23 cozwei voidus what exactly do I have to check? Wether it's working vs. INSTALLTOOL?
13:24 voidus cozwei: yes... in the install tool, check image processing
13:31 cozwei voidus: I had enabled IM, but no IM installed (well actually installed yes, but I don't want to set rights to 777). I disabled it now, now it works. Thank you
13:44 ries Anybody know how I can disable the dropdowns Align: Fontface: Size: Color:
13:44 ries below the RTE
13:45 voidus ries: using TSConfig
13:45 ries voidus: happen to know what option? i looked in there already, I must have missed it
13:46 Jigal ries: nothing below the RTE here (tinyRTE LOL)
13:48 Jigal ries: with tinyRTE one can set the visible buttons in the EM option "Visible Buttons".
13:48 voidus ries: tiny or rtehtmlarea?
13:50 voidus ries: if rtehtmlarea -> RTE.default.showButtons, i think
13:53 ries htmlarea
13:53 ries they are dropdowns below the RTE
13:53 ries Jigal: I don't use tiny (yet)
13:53 ries how good is it?
13:54 Phlogi ries: tiny is great imho... and needs nearly no config...
13:55 jan___ phlogi: and faster loading ?
13:55 Phlogi ries: I haven't tested that import from word feature... which could be nice in some cases...
13:55 voidus tinyrte needs more CPU time
13:55 Phlogi jan___: hmm not really I think... sometimes its even slower here.. at least the first time you open/use it
13:55 smeringe together with compressed script it's quite fast I think
13:56 Phlogi smeringe: I think so too
13:56 jan___ hmm ok thx phlogi 4 info :)
13:56 Phlogi Can I disable the message "This change will affect which fields are available in the form... bla bla" if I change the Type of a CE?
13:57 Phlogi jan___: np... I really like tiny rte...and so does the redactors here
14:06 a7p_ hi everyone ...
14:06 a7p_ I just updated my RTE ... and it does not load anymore - any ideas?
14:16 Fanty anyone able to explain how xclass works?
14:17 voidus Fanty: i can..
14:18 uschi Jigal, do you work with tinyrte?
14:18 voidus a7p_: which RTE do you use, which browser do you use?
14:18 uschi hey voidus :))
14:18 voidus hi uschi :)
14:18 Fanty voidus: I'm trying to figure out how loginusertrack works. It xclass extends tslib_fe
14:19 voidus Fanty: xclassing is an extending base class...
14:19 a7p_ voidus, I tryed Firefox 2 and Opera 9
14:19 Fanty voidus: I cant figure out how the new ux_tslib_fe class gets the call instead of the old one?
14:19 a7p_ both don't work, the message is: "Loading RTE ..."
14:20 a7p_ and it does not disappear (as it normaly does)
14:20 voidus Fanty: function t3lib_div::makeInstance checks, if the derived class is present, and if yes, call it instead of base class
14:20 Fanty voidus: and a derived class is anything called ux_<classname>?
14:20 voidus a7p_: which RTE do you use? rtehtmlarea or tinyrte?
14:21 Fanty voidus: I'll take a look in t3lib_div :)
14:21 voidus Fanty: function makeInstance check only ux_<classname>, so it's hardcoded
14:22 Fanty voidus: ah, ok.. that makes sense
14:22 a7p_ rtehtmlarea ... the standard-thing ...
14:22 a7p_ is tinyrte fine? I never tried it.
14:22 Fanty voidus: and the world comes crashing down if more than one extension tries to xclass the same class, correct?
14:22 voidus Fanty: xclassing allow to make chains of classes, ux_ux_ux_ux, but problem is different developers don't know about xclasses, and different bad things appear
14:22 voidus Fanty: yes, you are right
14:24 voidus Fanty: so xclass is really deprecated, but sometimes there is no another way to change functionality
14:25 Fanty voidus: I could imagine the "suggest a hook" would take a while to happen in stuff like tslib_fe :)
14:25 voidus a7p_: maybe fine, maybe not.. just try.. btw, your problem may be related with browser cache. did you clear it?
14:25 a7p_ voidus, that sounds fitting ..
14:25 a7p_ thanks for the hint - I will try it
14:26 voidus Fanty: yeah.. t3 architecture is bad at this point of view... T3 5.0 will allow AOP, so such problem should disappear.
14:27 Fanty AOP?
14:27 voidus Aspect-Oriented Programming
14:27 Fanty fancy name :)
14:28 voidus hm.. maybe. but anyway, 5.0 will out when i got old, i think :)
14:28 voidus sry for english..
14:29 voidus *bad english)
14:29 a7p_ mmm ... restarting Firefox does not help :|
14:31 voidus tools - clear private data - check "cache" only
14:53 a7p_ arg, okay, I've got my problem ... I installed an older version of rte_htmlarea 1.4 something ... which seems to be to old for TYPO3 4.1
15:07 Phlogi hey guys if I insert a text with image elements, whats the best way to change the following: If there are more than one images, I'd like to float them so that they are side by side
15:08 Phlogi as I can see its outputted with dd dl tags... hmm
15:09 Phlogi do I need to float the dt's? =)
15:30 a7p_ mmm ... *schnief* another problem .. I can not select "German" as a setting for the backend (User->Setup) even though I have csh_de installed.
15:32 a7p_ oh, this changed since 4 ...
15:32 a7p_ problem solved
15:37 Phlogi how can I change that width: <div class="csc-textpic-imagewrap" style="width:226px; ???
15:40 Phlogi becuse this is set automatically... pleaes anyone?
15:40 voidus Phlogi: why do you need it?
15:41 Phlogi voidus: I want to have those images side by side...
15:41 Phlogi http://www.zurichfilmfestival.com/index.php?id=108 look here now it does only 2 images side by side... I want all of them
15:41 voidus Phlogi: afaik, there was an option for that
15:42 Phlogi voidus: I really hope so...
15:42 Phlogi this from content CE: Max Image Width (Text) does not really help
15:42 Phlogi if I use the CE text w/ image then it does not even allow two images side by side because the width of th wrapper container is the same as the image
15:45 Phlogi damn where is that... grrrrrrr :D
15:45 Denyerec I'm being stupid somehow.
15:45 Denyerec http://phpfi.com/240071
15:45 Denyerec That rootline is empty
15:45 Denyerec and it shouldn't be
15:48 voidus Phlogi: is it "images only"?
15:48 Phlogi voidus: yes now yes
15:49 voidus there is an option in CE: columns
15:49 del hmm... i had config_no_cache = 1 for a while and now for some reason I can't turn on caching again... tried =1 and >, but typo3 does not cache any paes anymore...
15:49 voidus Phlogi: dropdown list
15:49 Phlogi voidus: hmm what?
15:50 voidus Phlogi: columns.. there is parts in CE: type, header, images, position, width, caption..
15:51 Phlogi voidus: and then what do I need to seleect? or change?
15:51 voidus in part "position" there is dropdown list "columns"
15:51 Phlogi yes I'm there
15:51 Phlogi left normal right and border... so what?
15:51 Phlogi that does not change anything I need
15:54 voidus Phlogi: one sec
15:55 Phlogi Select the number of columns in the image block. hmmm yes but where?
15:56 Phlogi ah now I can see.... with the secondary options palette
15:56 Phlogi thanks a lot voidus, but what If I want like 10 or 30? =)
15:57 voidus Phlogi: that is not the problem
15:57 voidus two lines in TSConfig - and you will see missing values :)
15:57 Phlogi voidus: thanks man!!!!
15:58 voidus Phlogi: np :)
15:58 voidus Denyerec: queue! :)
15:58 Denyerec http://phpfi.com/240071
15:58 Denyerec I'm not getting any outpout from my HMENU
15:58 Denyerec Not even an empty wrap
16:01 voidus Denyerec: are you sure TMENUITEM have stdWrap property?
16:01 Denyerec Ahhh
16:01 Denyerec Ries spotted it
16:02 Glimps i'm having an issue with Typo3 4.1, in firefox sometimes the RTE doesn't load
16:03 voidus Glimps: firefox version?
16:03 Phlogi voidus: do you have an idea to have the background color around all the images and full width? So that it looks nice connected to the <p> text above? http://www.zurichfilmfestival.com/index.php?id=108&L=2
16:03 Glimps 2.0.0.4
16:03 voidus Glimps: update to 4.1.1, it's known bug and reason for introducing 4.1.1 version at all
16:04 Glimps voidus: when was the 4.1.1 released?
16:04 voidus Glimps: hm... i don't remember.. maybe month or two weeks ago..
16:05 Glimps ok, because this install is fresh from this week, using release from Typo3.org
16:07 voidus wikipedia says me, that latest release was at 3 of april
16:07 voidus but i am not sure
16:10 Phlogi hmm that one div should go around the whole content element imho, but why is the background not set then??? damn it :)
16:11 eeos how do you include an external css in a specific page?
16:11 eeos is it page.includeCSS.[array]?
16:11 Glimps voidus: yes it is
16:11 Glimps voidus: I've checked
16:12 eeos or only includeCSS.[array]? I forgot.
16:16 voidus Denyerec: try add allWrap = | to NO and CUR
16:17 voidus eeos: page.includeCSS.
16:18 ries eeos: page sure you have tsref at hand :)
16:18 eeos ries: yes I have tsref here, but did not remeber the context sorry :P
16:18 eeos ries long day before holidays
16:19 ries eeos: most of these settings are in config or page
16:20 eeos ries: what I am tryig to do is to set an additional css for a specific page, so I wanted to set css in the tsconfig of the page, so I used "stylesheet" from tsref, but did not work
16:20 eeos ries: voidus then i asked :(
16:20 ries no prob
16:21 eeos ries: I think I have to stop, not ven includeCSS works anymore
16:23 ries eeos: ofcourse that work!
16:26 eeos ries: woops it does not :( page.includeCSS {file1 = fileadmin/templates/css/additional.css}
16:26 eeos is nathig wrog with it?
16:26 eeos s/nathig/anything
16:26 uschi ries, how do i get data from an sql-file into the database via shell?
16:26 uschi mysql and then???
16:29 ries eeos: does this work ? page.includeCSS.file1 = fileadmin/templates/css/additional.css
16:31 eeos ries: it does not!
16:31 eeos ries: ell, it is not my brai that is not working then!
16:32 eeos where would you put that ries
16:32 eeos ?
16:33 eeos maybe I put it in the wrong place, sounds strange thoug
16:35 Denyerec voidus
16:35 Denyerec now I have an empty wrapper with no menuitems
16:35 voidus ?
16:35 Denyerec I'm not sure I fully understand the 1|-2 thing of the rootline
16:35 Denyerec I know it says startlevel - end level in the manual
16:35 Denyerec but an example wiouldn't hurt :(
16:36 voidus Denyerec: did you try to set NO.allWrap = | ?
16:36 Denyerec I did
16:36 Denyerec tho that wasnt what solved the issue
16:36 Denyerec Oh I'm being thick
16:38 eeos ries: I have tried in all possible places / positions ....
16:39 ries it needs to be in setup
16:39 ries for yoru single page create a extension template
16:40 eeos ries: yes, this is where I put it, but does not work
16:40 eeos ries: so I tried with TSconfig
16:40 eeos ries: I am very puzzled
16:42 eeos ries: no syntac error, cleared the cache
16:43 ries it's not TS config
16:43 ries it needs to go into setup
16:43 Glimps voidus: I just updated to 4.1.1 and it's still not working...
16:44 voidus Glimps: clear browser cache
16:44 Glimps k
16:44 voidus and all *.js files in typo3temp/
16:45 eeos ries: yes, I know
16:45 Glimps voidus: ok
16:45 eeos anyway!
16:49 Glimps voidus: I removed all the .js files, recleared browser cache, still no good...
16:49 voidus hm.. weird
16:50 Glimps maybe i missed a step in the install tool
16:50 Glimps I'm giong to redo the whole thing
16:54 Glimps voidus: oh it does not work on any browser...
16:56 eeos ries: now it works.
16:56 eeos ries: thanks for your help anyway!
16:57 Glimps voidu: maybe I could manual fix it
16:57 Glimps the javascript error says that "each" doesn't exists
16:58 eeos have a good next 10 days to everybody!
16:59 ries eeos: what was the prob?
17:00 eeos it was loading it but got lost in the headers, just a stupid mistake after a log day, sorry to have bothered you. it was actually working, just the order of the css was wrong.
17:10 eeos anyway! enjoy the weeked!
17:25 chinni I need some help for typo3
17:25 chinni please help me
17:26 chinni Unsupported TypoScript property was found in this template: "config.baseURL="1"
17:26 chinni i got this error
17:26 Glimps 1 is not a valid url
17:27 chinni i installed it in subfolder of root like http://www.example.com/typo
17:28 chinni then what can i do now
17:28 Glimps then you want sommething like this
17:28 Glimps config.baseURL = http://www.example.com/typo
17:28 Glimps no quotes
17:28 chinni ok thanq
17:29 chinni i will check it now
17:29 Glimps np
17:40 chinni Glimps now i am not getting any error
17:40 Glimps which is kind of good ;)
17:40 chinni but realURL pulgin is not working
17:41 chinni still urls are like this http://www.example.com/typo/index.php?1
17:42 Glimps but that's not the only thing you need to do to configure realURL
17:42 Glimps have you read the documentation?
17:42 chinni yes
17:43 chinni in realurl/ext_localconf.php file required code is there
17:43 chinni for enCode and deCode
17:44 uschi dear friends, is there any risk in deleting everything inside the typo3temp folder?
17:49 chinni now its working fine Glimps
17:50 chinni i got another problem
17:50 chinni i am getting this error now You don't have permission to access /www/example.com/typo/index.php on this server.
18:00 chinni help me
18:00 chinni anybody
18:00 chinni is there any typo3 users are staff
18:04 ries chinni: what do you mean with staff?
18:09 ries uschi: you can use the install tool for that, generale it's save to delete all files, but NOT directories
18:10 uschi you mean directories inside typo3temp as well, ries?
18:10 uschi because i am on my way to copy my online version to my local windows notebook
18:11 uschi and i am asking myself whether it is necessary to copy all those temp stuff as well
18:12 ries ic... then you should have teh right directories already setup locally
18:12 ries and you don't have to copy files in typo3temp
18:13 uschi i am playing around with junctions :)
18:13 uschi but i prefer to manually create my typo3temp dir and leave it empty
18:14 chinni hello ries plz help me to solve my problem
18:15 ries chinni: if I quickly read back you have permission problems, you might have savemode/base whatever on in php
18:17 specialunderwear can i somhow get the content elements from a certain page and insert them into the template with typoscript? (for sidebar with same data on every page)
18:20 ries specialunderwear: you need to use RECORDS
18:22 specialunderwear ries: hmmm but then i need to create a small extension for that right?
18:22 specialunderwear or can a page also be a record?
18:23 ries specialunderwear: No, it's TS only and allows you to get a content records into TS and udisplay it somewhere else
18:36 specialunderwear hey how do i add a breakline to text set via typoscript? now all menu items are on one line in the source code
18:59 Propri Hello 2 everyone
18:59 Chechu Hello
18:59 Chechu Can anyone help me ??
19:01 Chechu ?????
19:01 uschi hi Chechu, depends on your problem
19:01 Chechu hello uschi
19:01 Chechu thanks
19:02 Chechu well, I will explain you with my bad English
19:02 uschi Chechu, this channel is sometimes very silent, because everyone is working
19:02 uschi but it is always worth to ask :))
19:02 Chechu Ok
19:02 Chechu Could we have a private chat here???
19:03 uschi i might not be the right person to answer your question, so ask in public first
19:03 Chechu Ok, thanks
19:04 uschi but other than that, one can have private conversation, yes
19:04 Chechu I need to migrate a typo3 website to another server in different location
19:04 uschi simply type /query thenickofthepersonyouwanttotalkto
19:04 Chechu and I am not able to do it
19:04 uschi and your problem is
19:05 uschi why not?
19:05 Chechu ????
19:05 uschi why can you not do it?
19:05 Chechu I made a backup first
19:05 Chechu I uploaded typo3 backup to the new server
19:06 Chechu I created the database
19:06 Chechu but I can't install it
19:06 uschi do you have shell access?
19:06 Chechu ???
19:06 uschi did you make a db-dump?
19:06 Chechu yes
19:07 Chechu typo3 3.8
19:07 uschi how did you do this
19:07 Chechu It was already done by the owner of this site
19:07 Chechu but it's good
19:07 uschi do you know what a shell is?
19:07 Chechu no
19:07 Chechu not in english
19:07 Chechu lol
19:08 uschi shell is an international word i suppose
19:08 Chechu i guess
19:08 uschi it is a command line linux tool, similar to the dos prompt under windows
19:08 Chechu ok
19:08 uschi did you get the mysql-dump into the database?
19:08 Chechu yes
19:09 Chechu I have 50 tables
19:09 Chechu all of them
19:09 uschi fine
19:09 Chechu ok
19:09 uschi what happens when you try to open the typo3-backend?
19:10 uschi what kind of error message do you get
19:10 Chechu I can't even open the file
19:10 Chechu in the browser
19:11 uschi you mean, you cannot do http://www.thenewdomain.tld/typo3/ ?
19:11 Chechu exactly
19:11 Chechu but the database exist
19:11 uschi what is the domain?
19:12 uschi i suppose you have not adapted your localconf.php yet?
19:12 Chechu listen my dinner is waiting for me
19:12 uschi so is mine :)
19:12 Chechu cool
19:12 Chechu Can I give you my mail address or messenger???
19:13 uschi no, come back here, here are more people and most of them know more than i do
19:13 Chechu ok
19:13 Chechu thank you very much Uschi
19:13 uschi np :)
19:14 Chechu I will learn Typo3 soon
19:14 Chechu lol
19:14 Chechu Will you be here tomorrow?
19:14 uschi yes, but i will not have much time
19:14 Chechu ok,
19:14 Chechu Regards from Spain
19:14 Chechu bye
19:15 uschi bye from germany
19:15 Chechu Danke
19:18 Badenser Hi all
19:24 uschi hi Badenser
19:39 bedlamhotel Hello TYPO3-world.
19:39 bedlamhotel Uschi: still awake?
19:40 uschi somehow yes, bedlamhotel :)
19:42 bedlamhotel uschi: hello. Are you experienced--or do you know anyone who is--with entering Farsi/Arabic text in Photoshop CS2?
19:43 bedlamhotel Also, /why/ are you awake at this hour? ;-p
19:44 a7p_ so, everything works finde ...
19:44 a7p_ T3 as it should be.
19:45 uschi no, i am not, bedlamhotel
19:45 uschi rené is perhaps with chinese
19:45 uschi no, sorry, japanese
19:45 uschi but that is different
19:45 uschi what because it is not rl
19:46 bedlamhotel uschi: thanks. It was worth a shot. I just can't figure how to switch directions from ltr to rtl...
19:46 uschi i shall ask rené perhaps he knows
19:47 bedlamhotel It's very bizarre--when you copy and paste, all the characters end up in the wrong order ;-D Sure, if it's convenient (don't wake anybody or anything). Otherwise we can ask the translators to do this.
19:48 uschi he does not know either, but suggests that there is a texteditor inside ps, like in fireworks
19:49 uschi bedlamhotel it is 10pm, so it is not THAT late
19:49 Chechu Hi again
19:49 bedlamhotel Uschi: *L* Oops, you're right. I was thinking it was later in the day (due to the amount of stuff I haven't managed to start yet...)
19:50 bedlamhotel uschi: Yeah, I was playing with the character and paragraph palettes in PS, but I couldn't make it work...
19:50 Chechu Hi Uschi
19:52 Chechu R U busy?
19:54 Chechu Could you help me pls?
19:57 uschi i am busy currently, sorry, Chechu
19:57 Chechu ok
19:57 Chechu Thanks
19:57 Chechu no problem
19:58 uschi trying out to figure out where the hell i installed graphics magick ages ago on my notebook
19:58 Chechu ok
19:58 uschi did you edit your localconf.php, Chechu
19:58 Chechu Whenever you have time
19:58 uschi because there is the access to the db defined
19:59 uschi if you have not done so, you have to do that first while i am doing other stuff
19:59 Chechu could you tell me step by step what do i have to follow for making run the website?
19:59 uschi after filling the db: adjust your localconf.php in order to be able to connect to the db, that IS step two
20:00 uschi furthermore you might have to adapt your symlinks
20:00 uschi via this miraculous shell thing
20:00 uschi in this respect you will have to ask someone else
20:01 uschi e.g. Denyerec :))
20:01 Chechu mmmm?
20:02 uschi or bedlamhotel?
20:02 Chechu ok
20:02 uschi can someone please help Chechu finding out how to use the shell and wether he is allowed to use it????
20:02 Chechu ohhh thanks
20:06 Chechu Please some help available?
20:09 Chechu Please some help available?
20:51 uschi hm, my dear friends, i just moved my online site to my local windows machine and now in the fe i get 1001 database errors and i cannot login to the be
20:51 uschi any suggestions why this might be so?
20:53 uschi bedlamhotel? boonkerz? someone pls?
20:53 uschi to my aid?
20:57 uschi ries, are you there?
21:01 uschi db is mysql 5
21:07 ries uschi: I don't know windows...sorry
21:08 uschi it is not about windows, it seems to be a mere mysql prob
21:08 uschi a mysql5.x prob perhaps?
21:10 Chechu Hi Uschi, r u less busy now?
21:10 uschi no, i cannot login to my backend
21:11 Chechu Now I am able to see TYPO3 3.8.1 Install Tool
21:15 Chechu please any help installing typo3 ?
21:15 Chechu into my server?
21:16 ries uschi: what error do you get?
21:17 uschi wait i just fiddled around with the my.ini
21:18 uschi not a valid result resource in class.t3lib_db.php in line 796 for the fe
21:18 ries uschi: try in your ini to set mysql to mysql4 compatible
21:19 uschi how?
21:20 uschi there was a tip in the news groups and the bugtracker concerning 4.0
21:20 uschi sql-mode="MSQL40" but that makes things even worse
21:24 uschi ries do you have any idea how i can make it compatible?
21:25 Chechu The Install Tool Password is not the admin password of TYPO3.
21:25 Chechu If you don't know the current password, you can set a new one by setting the value of $TYPO3_CONF_VARS["BE"]["installToolPassword"] in typo3conf/localconf.php to the md5() hash value of the password you desire.
21:25 Chechu What does it means ??
21:25 Chechu TYPO3 3.8.1 Install Tool
21:25 Chechu Site: CFD - Capital Management
21:25 Chechu Password:
21:25 Chechu Enter the Install Tool Password
21:26 uschi this means, if you do not know the Install Tool Password
21:26 Chechu What do i have to do ?
21:26 Chechu to carry on with the installation ?
21:26 uschi you can create a new one by using the php function md5() and paste the result into your localconf.php
21:27 Chechu just please tell me where I go
21:27 uschi you know any php?
21:28 uschi please folks, it drives me nuts, how can i get mysql5 mysql4 compatible?
21:28 Chechu I dont work in computing
21:28 Chechu But I have to fix this
21:29 Chechu I am amateur
21:29 Chechu lol
21:29 socken23 Hi all! Indexed search doesn't find any external files. The tools (pdftools etc.) are correctly installed. Any idea!?!?
21:29 uschi smeringe, do you know how to make mysql5 compatible to 4
21:30 uschi lot of questions around tonight
21:30 ries somebody in NL is freelance typo3?
21:31 ries uschi: I don't know mysql... I just use it because typo3 uses it, but I don't like the RDBM so I tend to let other tune and configure it
21:31 uschi i want those others then, ries, please :))
21:31 ries I know a company that needs somebody in Utrecht on Location
21:32 ries uschi: :)
21:32 ries uschi: for me mysql mostly works... and I always hear people complaining that typo3 doesn't work on windows
21:32 ries I only know about that switch that sometimes works
21:32 uschi not in my case, unfortunately
21:34 socken23 Nobody has a tip for the indexed_search problem!?
21:39 Chechu Can anyone help me with a typo3 installation.?
21:39 Chechu please
21:44 socken23 is there a way to reset all indexed for indexed_search?
21:44 socken23 or a way to re-index the whole page (without the crawler extension?)
21:52 Denyerec Jeeez
21:52 Denyerec uschi you are scraping the barrel if you are recommending someone talk to me!!
21:54 uschi Denyerec you do not have a solution for my mysql problem have you?
21:54 uschi can i access the install tool without having access to the BE?
21:54 uschi and if so, how?
21:55 Denyerec Ummmmmm
21:55 Denyerec I think you can reference it directly
21:55 Denyerec but you would still need the installtool password.
21:56 Denyerec if you don't know it, you can, I tink, copy over one from another site so long as you copy the MD5 hashkey too
21:59 uschi i know my installtool password, other than chechu
22:00 ries uschi: try : http://www.domain.com/typo3/install/index.php
22:01 uschi ries, what is that for?
22:05 uschi Boonkerz, mein Herz
22:05 uschi you have t3 running under windows, or not?
22:05 Boonkerz jo habe ich :D
23:51 ries uschi: that was to get to the install tool

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