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00:43 gerards ries?
00:43 gerards Ries
01:36 Denyerec Anyone awake who's good with image handling in Typo3?
02:39 Ries Denyerec: I am a bit... what do you want?
02:41 Denyerec I have generated a circle on a background.
02:41 Denyerec I would like to chop it into 4 equal peices.
02:41 Denyerec The image will always be an even number of pixels on each edge and always square.
02:42 Denyerec Right now I'm doing something like 10 = IMAGE then loaded an image from disk
02:43 Denyerec so if I could replace the image on file with the dynamic peice, I'd be happy
02:44 Ries Denyerec: there is a crop function available, you can properly use that?
02:44 Denyerec I guess thats the one to use
02:44 Ries then you can use the calc functions to do image calculations and find the width/hight of each image
02:44 Denyerec but I'm getting myself confused :(
02:45 Denyerec if I have my 20x20 px as an IMAGE
02:45 Ries why not write a simple piece of php?? ;)
02:45 Denyerec how to crop that and put the result into another IMAG
02:45 Denyerec E
02:45 Denyerec I think the original image is generated by PHP.
02:45 Ries as long as you work with gifbuilder, you can keep on putting images on top of eachother.... I never done that but I read it's like that
02:47 Denyerec Ah, you can't generate circles with GIF builder
02:47 Denyerec so I wrote a PHP func to do it.
02:47 Denyerec so i need to cut *that* up into 4 peices
02:48 Denyerec Right so once it's in an IMAGE thing in TS, I can use crop and calc to create some more IMAGE's
02:50 Ries Denyerec: yes... but why not do it all in php??
02:50 Ries together with gifbuilder?
02:50 Denyerec Hmm.
02:50 Ries I am off... woke up at 7
02:50 Ries and been workin since...
02:51 Denyerec I can't do it all in PHP
02:51 Denyerec cos I'd have to have 4 php files
02:51 Denyerec one for each section
02:51 Denyerec as I don't know how to "return" an image from a PHP script to TS
02:51 Denyerec I was planning on loading the file from TS, and outputting image headers from the PHP
05:42 d|g hi all
06:53 dax77 gooood morning @all
06:54 mikhas good morning
06:56 smurfslayer hello there
07:04 uschi morning tobi :)
07:04 uschi morning dax77
07:04 dax77 heya uschi :)
07:07 tobi good morning uschi
07:07 tobi good morning #typo3
07:07 uschi good idea to do it this way, tobi, so you cannot forget someone
07:08 uschi tobi, just for info: if you do the shortcut thing the other way round, cur and act are respected
07:08 tobi hm thats good to know
07:08 uschi at least with 4.1
07:09 uschi but one might run into trouble with sitemaps then
07:11 zatmania hi @ll
07:16 dax77 hi zatmania
07:16 zatmania hi dax77
07:16 dax77 anyone here coming to the t3dd07 ?
07:16 zatmania hi tobi, uschi
07:16 uschi morning zatmania :)
07:17 mikhas I'm trying to figure out a way to make alias work in realurl. I.e. adding "fish" in alias will make the url go /fish/ - not adding anything will make it use the title instead. :)
07:39 Jigal hi all
07:40 helli_t3w hi Jigal
07:41 dax77 hi Jigal, hi helli_t3w
07:44 zatmania hi Jigal
07:47 floxx morning!
07:50 zatmania hi floxx
07:58 Jigal hi helli_t3w, dax77, zatmania, floxx, sebkur
07:59 sebkur lllhi
08:00 uschi hey, sebkur :)))))))
08:00 sebkur hello uschi :)
08:00 floxx hi zatmania jigal sebkur
08:00 uschi long time no see
08:00 sebkur yeah
08:01 Jigal hi uschi
08:01 uschi morning Jigal
08:19 dax77 sebkur: will you be at the t3dd07?
08:19 sebkur yep
08:19 sebkur bien sûr
08:20 dax77 than we'll meet :)
08:20 dax77 how do you get there? by train?
08:21 sebkur yes there is a night train from dresden to zurich
08:21 sebkur I take that one
08:21 sebkur but I will take the train one day earlier because there is a core developers meeting on the day before
08:22 sebkur where do you come from?
08:34 sebkur dax77: ?
08:36 dax77 sorry, sebkur - back again
08:36 sebkur no problem :)
08:36 dax77 I thought I could start from Mainz
08:36 sebkur ah okay
08:36 dax77 but now I'm not sure at what time
08:37 sebkur you could as well fly to zürich
08:37 dax77 when does it start?
08:37 sebkur umm
08:37 sebkur I think on thursday
08:37 sebkur and I will be there on wednesday morning
08:37 dax77 yes, thats for sure, but at what time?
08:37 sebkur ah
08:37 sebkur early
08:37 dax77 hmmm
08:37 sebkur maybe at like 11
08:37 sebkur or maybe at 1
08:37 dax77 than I have to check the timeschedules again
08:37 toms hi@all
08:37 dax77 hi toms
08:37 sebkur frankly I dont know yet :/
08:38 sebkur there is no time schedule yet
08:40 dax77 argh, I can either arrive at 8 o'clock or 11 o'clock
08:40 dax77 so 11 is fine? what do you think?
08:43 dax77 sebkur? ^
08:45 toms Using frontend editing together with tt_news I have the problem that new entries are hidden by default. How can I find out where to change the default value?
08:46 sebkur dax77: sure 11 is fine
08:46 dax77 cool :9
08:46 dax77 toms: have a look at the ts-object browser
08:47 toms dax77: I did, but there was nothing like that
08:49 FloLeBlanc hi all
08:49 toms dax77: or i did not find it... ;)
08:50 toms hi
08:50 tobi toms: try to set TCAdefaults.tt_news.hidden = 0 in user tsconfig
08:50 koomi moin
08:53 toms tobi: what is meant by tsconfig? A few weeks ago I added a line exactly like this in my TypoScript Template. Was that right?
08:53 tobi no, you have to put it in user tsconfig, edit your user and put it there
08:55 toms tobi: So I don't have to wonder why it does not work. Unfortunately I do not know how to edit this thing "tsconfig"... I will have a look
08:56 toms tobi: Ah, I got some
08:56 tobi go to user admin, edit the user there and put this into the tsconfig field
08:57 toms Okay, I'll do
09:00 koomi http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJTLL1UjvfU
09:09 toms tobi: I added this line to tsconfig as you said, but I did this for a group everybody is in. The News I made do exists, but are still hidden. Is it possible that my FE-Editing Plugin overwrites this value?
09:10 tobi hm i dont know, but thats possible
09:12 toms tobi: okay, thank you so far... :)
09:15 just2b good morning
09:15 dax77 hi just2b :)
09:15 Jigal koomi: been telling that for years, but I personally can't change it... it's been only 65 or so years ago that we in the Netherlands had a "government" that couldn't be trusted... they would have loved to have some of the "security measures" we have nowadays... :-(
09:15 just2b hi dax
09:17 Jigal hi FloLeBlanc, opt1, cK-, just2b
09:17 just2b hi jigal
09:17 cK- hi
09:18 just2b who would like to see a nice teaser extension? ;)
09:18 Jigal just2b: what would such an extension do?
09:19 just2b teasing content, IMO there are not really good extensions for this use int er
09:20 Jigal just2b: I know how to tease people ;-) But I haven't got a clue about the meaning related to content
09:20 just2b like tt_news > first 100 words of a page content
09:23 Jigal just2b: thanks for the explanation ;-)
09:33 mikhas What can I do to give the user/group the right to flush the frontend cache? I know they can flush one page's cache manually but it doesn't seem to be enough in my case.
09:33 just2b mihas search in repository, there is an ext
09:33 mikhas just2b : thanks
09:34 mikhas just figured it could be done by typoscript =)
09:54 FloLeBlanc hi Jigal
09:54 FloLeBlanc how are you
09:58 Jigal hi FloLeBlanc. I'm a bit tired right now. how are you?
10:01 Jigal FloLeBlanc: been to a comic improvisation act on Saturday evening (started at 23:00), but had to get up early on Sunday :-( ... not too much sleep this weekend
10:01 FloLeBlanc Jigal: :( thx I'm fine.. have been to Graz at the weekend and it was very refreshing. have a ton of work atm but actually fun doing it :)
10:02 just2b sad that i have only been to graz 1 time ;)
10:03 Jigal FloLeBlanc: nice looking city; you went their for the spa (thermen), the wine or the horses?
10:04 FloLeBlanc Jigal: I went there for football of course :) (Austria Vienna VS Sturm Graz)
10:04 brain-xy hi there :)
10:04 FloLeBlanc hi brain
10:04 brain-xy has anybody experienced problems with 4.1 and FE users?
10:04 just2b lol, both are really great teams :D
10:04 brain-xy hi FloLeBlanc.. how are you?
10:04 FloLeBlanc fine thx you
10:05 FloLeBlanc just2b: :-P
10:05 Jigal FloLeBlanc: at the UPC-Arena?
10:05 FloLeBlanc Jigal: yes
10:05 FloLeBlanc Jigal: have you been there?
10:05 FloLeBlanc jigal: lol
10:06 just2b sturm steigt ab?
10:06 just2b ;)
10:19 matthiashh Hello all together
10:28 brain-xy hmrr.. does anybody have these mysql errors in the EM?
10:41 FloLeBlanc just2b: besser rapid :)
10:41 Jigal brain-xy: yep in 3.8.1
10:42 brain-xy i got them in 4.1 .. but i am just stupid.. :P
10:42 brain-xy i've forgotten to compare the DB
10:51 pulponair ries: are you arround?
10:54 dax77 hi pulponair :)
10:54 dax77 ^ a bit to early for ries ;)
10:54 pulponair dax77: may be
11:03 just2b re ;)
11:06 Ries to early indeed :)
11:08 pulponair Ries: good morning ;) Do you know whether there is a a normalized TSREF export existing or not? e.g. xml or something similar?
11:10 pulponair Ries: aehm nevermind just found the xml file ;)
11:12 Ries pulponair: glad I could help :)
11:13 pulponair Ries: *scrn*
11:15 neostar hi
11:15 Ries pulponair: I have a question for you, I get this message while adding a content element : Sorry, you didn't have proper permissions to perform this change.
11:15 Ries pulponair: Ofcourse I am admin... do you know a good way to debug this?
11:16 pulponair Ries: eh...wait...i received a similar error a while ago
11:16 pulponair Ries: what kind of ce? TV yes or no? default language?
11:17 just2b workspacE?
11:17 pulponair Ries: yes it was workspace related
11:17 pulponair Ries: you are probably on the wrong workspace
11:19 Ries TV, default language and I hate workspace.... so I don't use teh WS
11:21 Ries I am even admin ;)
11:21 Ries The problem starts here : $calcPRec = t3lib_BEfunc::getRecord($table,$theUid);
11:21 Ries $calcPRec is empty...
11:25 pulponair Ries: turn on sqldebug
11:26 pulponair Ries: just to make sure it isnt cause by a missing field or something
11:31 Denyerec sebkur - got your msg, had a virus alert so had to reboot onto a CD to scan everything
11:31 Ries pulponair: I think I found the problem, it's indeed sql related... I use dbal for database access
11:31 Ries and something there get's screwed up
11:35 Schimi hello
11:38 Ries Hey Schimi
11:38 Schimi not to much going on here?
11:38 Ries pulponair: when I enable debugging it goes all wrong :)
11:38 Ries But I don't need debugging so much anyways... Pfffffffff
11:39 Ries Schimi: Well, we are not a Denian channel... but there is a lot of activituy here
11:39 Schimi thx for info, I thing I'll stay tuned a bit
11:39 Ries s/Denian/Debian/
11:39 Denyerec I have to go to the butcher. BIAB!
11:39 Schimi ;)
11:40 Schimi s/thing/think/
11:40 Schimi what a typo(3)
11:41 stefan-koch hi guys is there any webmail extension for typo3?
11:43 Schimi what about http://typo3.org/extensions/repository/new/contentwrapper/
11:43 Schimi combinded with
11:43 Schimi http://www.horde.org/webmail/
11:44 Schimi btw: what's going on with extension manuals from TER
11:45 Schimi ... we currently experience difficulties
11:45 Jigal re
11:45 Schimi re
11:45 just2b not only <ou @ schimi
11:45 Ries Schimi: I am not sure whatis going on... But it seem like every new yeear there are problems with TER...
11:45 Ries Schimi: Isn't there also a SSO with horde?
11:46 Jigal hi pulponair, Ries, Schimi, Denyerec, neostar
11:46 pulponair Jigal: hi there
11:46 Schimi Hi Jigal
11:46 neostar hi Jigal
11:46 Ries Hey Jigal
11:47 Schimi Ries: I think the extension for horde is called modulo
11:50 Schimi Ries: nope, sorry, I was wrong
11:50 Schimi looks like they nuked it
11:51 Schimi or integrated it somewhere ... hmm ...
11:55 Ries May be... I never done anythign whith such a intergration
12:04 Cirdan2k hi all!
12:04 Cirdan2k how do i check simple variables in ts? [sys_language_uid = ]
12:04 Cirdan2k = 0
12:04 Cirdan2k or anythuing
12:06 Ries Cirdan2k: Don't you want to check teh L variable?
12:07 Cirdan2k i do that before, but L is not set for the first page hit -> i have a .de and .com, so default are not the same
12:07 Cirdan2k it would be MUCH easier with it, else i had to write 100 lines more
12:07 Ries if it's not set, then it's the default language...
12:08 Cirdan2k i know, i want to set some CSS tags depending on the selected language
12:09 Cirdan2k so, is it possible to check any setup variable?
12:10 Cirdan2k like [config.sys_language_id = 0 ]
12:10 Cirdan2k would be useful for other things too
12:11 Ries Normally you would check teh L variable, and if you don't have the L variable you will revert to some default value
12:15 stefan-koch horde.. hmm i thought of something smaller.. will keep on looking.. but thanks anyway
12:30 Denyerec lo jiggly
12:32 Denyerec http://typo3.org/documentation/document-library/extension-manuals/contentwrapper/0.2.1/view/
12:32 Denyerec ARHGHGHGHG
12:32 Denyerec Typo3 is hard enough at the best of times, and when the docs go offline, I just have to weep.
12:33 just2b deny, klick in repository on the title of the ext and download the file
12:33 just2b no need to cry
12:34 Denyerec I just wanted a quick look at the docs :(
12:34 just2b make a quick download to do so
12:35 Denyerec There are so many extensions it actually makes me dizzy.
12:35 Denyerec In general, I mean
12:35 Denyerec not in the ext. manager
12:35 Denyerec I read through just at random to see what I can see and think "No way, you can do <insert thing here> with Typo?"
12:35 Jigal Denyerec: http://ter.dev.robertlemke.de/documentation/document-library/extension-manuals/contentwrapper/0.2.1/view/
12:36 Denyerec Doesn't Typo3 scare you?
12:37 just2b whom?
12:37 Jigal Denyerec: if it were made by a certain company in Redmond, then it would scare me LOL
12:37 Denyerec hehe
12:37 Denyerec It scares me
12:37 Denyerec SO much stuff :D
12:38 Jigal ... and so little time to learn it all ;-P
12:38 Schimi stefan-koch: what about http://www.squirrelmail.org/
12:38 Schimi ok, it's perl - but works
12:38 Schimi mailonly
12:54 pulponair Schimi: squirrel is ugly....i would suggest roundcube which is pretty sexy
12:59 stefan-koch i use uebimiau for my own page, because it seems to be the only one left with pop support, all others seem to need imap
13:08 FloLeBlanc I created some testusers for my site and I want to REALLY delete them from my DB... can I just execute a delete query on my DB or will this cause problems?
13:11 Jigal FloLeBlanc: if there are no other extensions which prepare things for new fe_users then you can just delete them
13:11 just2b there is also a ext to do this ;)
13:11 just2b kj_recycler i guess
13:11 FloLeBlanc thx
13:12 FloLeBlanc does kjrecycler work with t3 4.0.4 ? the manuals are down :)
13:13 just2b yes it does
13:13 FloLeBlanc thx
13:13 Jigal FloLeBlanc: this mirror is still up: http://ter.dev.robertlemke.de/documentation/document-library/extension-manuals/
13:13 FloLeBlanc I hope the thing won't delete my own made tables :=)
13:14 Jigal <evil grin />
13:15 FloLeBlanc hmmm
13:15 FloLeBlanc Class filename "modfunc1/class.tx_kjrecycler_modfunc1_backup.php" did NOT contain the class "tx_kjrecycler_modfunc1_backup"!
13:15 FloLeBlanc and nothing happens when I click on the new button :)
13:19 FloLeBlanc the manual doesn't help much.. it shows this great mask I cannot view :)
13:22 just2b press f5
13:24 nkuttler hm, how can i access the value of a variable var like in the conditional [var = foo]?
13:24 voidus nkuttler: lib.myvar = TEXT lib.myvar.data = GPvar:foo
13:29 Schimi has anybody sr_feuser_registier together with sr_freecap up and running?
13:49 j0hndeere Good morning, earth humans.
13:50 neostar good morning, extraterrestrial being j0hndeere
13:51 j0hndeere Thank you, neostar, and how are you doing?
13:51 neostar j0hndeere: well I'm fighting with my understanding of TemplaVoila
13:51 j0hndeere I've been fighting with the same for quite some time now.
13:52 nkuttler voidus: thanks!
13:52 j0hndeere TV is not permitting me to actually put content on my pages, and refusing to tell me just what exactly the hell the problem is.
13:53 neostar j0hndeere: I think I could better with seeing some straight accessible config files, than clicking here and there just to see all the bits and pieces
13:53 j0hndeere It's not that I forget them; it's that the earth humans need the positive affirmation of a pleasant greeting more so than you non-corporeal beings do, in our experience.
13:53 neostar + could better live
14:01 neostar features are nice, but well documented modules are even better
14:02 just2b haha it works ;) sorry for OT
14:02 kermit_green Can some one tell my, wha my typo3 is rendering a / bevore every link ?
14:03 beev0r how can i add my own fields to the typo3 backendform for fe-users?
14:04 beev0r currently i have username, password, realname, url, email, ...
14:04 beev0r but i wanna have "company name" there as well
14:05 kermit_green you should cerate a extension for this field
14:25 MaartenZuidland howdy!
14:25 j0hndeere Hello, earthling.
14:26 MaartenZuidland I'm having a small war with my typo3 site...
14:26 MaartenZuidland I have defined a template with TV, but my site ends up blank....
14:27 j0hndeere you've mapped it all out?
14:27 MaartenZuidland yup
14:27 MaartenZuidland liek the tutorial says...
14:27 neostar MaartenZuidland: have you also mapped the header part?
14:27 MaartenZuidland (Futuristic Template Building)
14:27 neostar I ran into the same problem just minutes ago
14:28 MaartenZuidland owkay
14:28 MaartenZuidland map the header?
14:28 j0hndeere my own problem is a little different... the template shows up fine, but TV won't let me add content
14:28 MaartenZuidland I have selected my style sheet in the "header parts" bit of the BE
14:29 MaartenZuidland anyone?
14:29 neostar MaartenZuidland: I mean editing the TO file to select which elements should be included, then set and save. this is a bit odd since these fields sometimes are already selected yet TV hasn't applied it yet, especially when you made some changes in the DS
14:30 MaartenZuidland brb
14:34 MaartenZuidland am back
14:35 MaartenZuidland err... the tutorial does not discuss the mapping of head elements...
14:35 neostar it does
14:35 MaartenZuidland (up to the point I should be getting some result)
14:35 neostar page 25
14:35 neostar and you should clear caches
14:35 MaartenZuidland owkay
14:35 MaartenZuidland I was at page 14
14:36 j0hndeere caches are evil
14:37 neostar well then you should wait to see some results when you're at page 25, the tutorial is definitely correct, I'm working through it the third time to get used to the process
14:37 MaartenZuidland owkay, because at page 17 it says to look at the result
14:37 neostar did you fill in some content?
14:38 MaartenZuidland errr........ should I?
14:38 MaartenZuidland to see the template shown
14:38 j0hndeere only a moron would try to kill something that's already dead!
14:38 neostar MaartenZuidland: well if you don't see any results you should carefully check all steps again
14:39 MaartenZuidland owkay
14:39 MaartenZuidland might it be possible that there is a server setting wrong?
14:39 neostar MaartenZuidland: I fell into the same pits, it's really about following stubborn the instructions
14:39 MaartenZuidland (IIS6, win2003 PHP5 mysql5)
14:39 MaartenZuidland owkay
14:40 neostar MaartenZuidland: maybe but usually it's just one step that wasn't executed in the right order
14:40 MaartenZuidland owk
14:40 MaartenZuidland *sigh* lets delete all, and redo...
14:41 neostar MaartenZuidland: I know how that feels :-)
14:46 Ries MaartenZuidland: try to add this
14:46 Ries page.5 = TEXT
14:46 Ries page.5.value = hello
14:47 Ries and see if that shows up
14:50 webdev hi
14:51 MaartenZuidland that gives me the hello
14:51 MaartenZuidland that was meant for ries
14:51 webdev anybody know what's about dam, in the wiki is something writhen about 1.2 in the ter is 1.0.9 and in the SVN is a 1.0.5 !!!!!!!!!
14:51 webdev that's chaos
14:51 webdev pure chaos
14:52 webdev Shell I use the version from ter or where do I get thi misterious version 1.2 with ajax features
14:57 Ries MaartenZuidland: so basicly your TV doesn't show.. right?
14:58 Ries I did notce taht I HAD to create a body mappign AND a other mapping before something showed up
14:59 webdev Is there a posibility to use dam without the regular/old filelist ?
15:00 voidus webdev: yes
15:00 tobi webdev: rene friz has snapshots on his personal homepage, but they dont seem newer than the one in ter .. http://typo3lab.colorcube.de/DAM.dam.0.html
15:05 MaartenZuidland ries: indeed
15:06 MaartenZuidland ries: I have made all mappings that the tutorial told me to
15:08 webdev there is 1.1
15:08 webdev and in ter is 1.0.9
15:21 MaartenZuidland neostar: that the world is still round?
15:23 j0hndeere actually, it's not.
15:23 j0hndeere it bulges in the middle, like most of the humans inhabiting it.
15:23 MaartenZuidland lol
15:24 neostar j0hndeere: which can only be seen from space, I know
15:25 j0hndeere Also, it tilts at a very curious angle.
15:25 j0hndeere No wonder your seasons are so strange.
15:26 neostar MaartenZuidland: well I'm starting to get a structure in my head for how TV works and DS can be reused. TYPO3 has some really bad GUI styling in some points, sometimes clicking an icon brings up options, sometimes the text, then 3 ways lead to the same page, then clicking a checkbox reveals totally different content
15:26 neostar This is even more worse than Windows if that is possible
15:31 j0hndeere no, that isn't possible.
15:32 j0hndeere Windows is one of the true curiosities that the Elders wish to better understand: How a program that loses so badly could possibly become so universal.
15:35 neostar good old bash
15:36 j0hndeere Understanding this question may help us better understand the more fundamental question of how a species that is so willing to accept mediocrity, or worse, can come to dominate a planet.
15:37 neostar j0hndeere: In the Land of the Blind One-Eyed is King
15:38 j0hndeere More important is why.
15:39 j0hndeere In our experience, the Land of the Blind quite quickly becomes extinct.
15:41 neostar j0hndeere: I guess you then know these two guys http://www.geekculture.com/joyoftech/joyarchives/506.html
15:42 j0hndeere heh. That's amusing.
15:42 j0hndeere Time travel is a confusing concept that even we do not yet grasp.
16:20 neostar cya
16:28 uschi hello typos :)
16:28 beev0r hallo uschi
16:28 uschi hello beev0r
16:33 Denyerec Oh man
16:33 Denyerec there are just too many extensions
16:34 uschi poor Denyerec
16:34 uschi could you perhaps lend me a helping hand?
16:34 Denyerec What is the problem Ushticles?
16:34 uschi i am trying to calculate something, and i cannot get it right
16:34 Denyerec Hmm?
16:35 uschi pasting it to phpfi
16:36 uschi http://phpfi.com/214869
16:36 uschi how to get this right
16:38 Denyerec Heh, I didn't even know you could do maths in Typoscript
16:38 Denyerec :S
16:38 Denyerec Could you palm the calculation off to a PHP userFunc ?
16:38 Denyerec I know it's a bit dirty but it might get it working ?
16:38 bedlamhotel Uschi, what are you trying to do with that? You know that entryLevel is /relative/ when you use negative numbers, right?
16:39 uschi yes, but to what?
16:39 bedlamhotel To the page where the TS object is called.
16:39 uschi the problem is that i cannot tell, where the entrylevel of the mainmenu is in the tree
16:40 bedlamhotel Example?
16:42 bedlamhotel What is it that you're trying to do?
16:46 webdev why doesn't work 90% of the extension manuals
16:47 reber hi all
16:58 pulponair Ries: do you know a company that performs security audits on websites?
16:59 pulponair Ries: i need someone trying to hack a t3 site ...legal
17:01 uschi bedlamhotel, sorry for not answering for such a long time, but i am building a website that includes websites which may not have there own document root
17:01 uschi means, somewhere in my pagetree, on virtually any level, a new 'portal' with it's own mainmenu may start
17:02 uschi this is why i have to calculate the entryLevel dynamically
17:04 pulponair anyone else? regarding my question about security audit
17:08 bedlamhotel Uschi: Why? What is in the main menu? Is it a list of pages below the 'portal' page, or is it a list of pages from 'above' it?
17:09 uschi below
17:09 uschi there is so much stuff, that they need their own mainmenu and a 2-level submenu
17:10 uschi it is a university page
17:10 bedlamhotel they don't have their own TS templates, right?
17:16 webdev is it better to use dam 1.1 beta
17:16 webdev or would you use dam 1.0.9
17:16 webdev when is next dam published ?
17:18 j0hndeere Hello, ChanServ.
17:20 webdev dman dam :-)
17:32 AleX-TeQ hello
17:34 AleX-TeQ im seeking assistance concrning the appearance of greek fonts in the "Page Tree"
17:36 Denyerec Firefox ?
17:37 AleX-TeQ yes
17:38 AleX-TeQ but in the window the fonts are aprearing properly
17:39 AleX-TeQ &#919; &#917;&#964;&#945;&#953;&#961;&#953;&#945; this is what i get
17:47 Ries pulponair: Hmmm good question...
17:48 Denyerec Check your default font sizwe.
17:48 pulponair Ries: yes
17:48 Denyerec *size
17:48 Denyerec and page encoding
17:48 pulponair Ries: but i wonder what kind of security glitches a professionel will discover. Could be funny :)
17:49 uschi Ries, are you available?
17:50 Denyerec pulponair - I know someone I think who could do it for cost.
17:50 uschi i can calculate my entryLevel from yesterday now, but i cannot get it assigned to the entryLevel of my menu
17:50 uschi therefore the entrylevel is always 1
17:50 pulponair Denyerec: could you give me his contact data?
17:50 Denyerec Just checking
17:50 Denyerec (With him, that is)
17:51 uschi tobi gave me a tip, but it does not work
17:51 pulponair Denyerec: i need a professional with some impressing references
17:51 Denyerec I know he does security, but I am not sure if he does websites specifically, it could just be unix/linux stuff
17:51 pulponair Denyerec: global player client :)
17:51 AleX-TeQ the problem is in typo3 not in the browser
17:52 AleX-TeQ i also checked it in IE
17:52 uschi looks, as if your characters are somehow converted twice
17:53 uschi force utf-8?
17:54 AleX-TeQ nothing
17:55 AleX-TeQ i also checked it in opera
17:55 AleX-TeQ could be some missing extension
17:56 uschi no, i mean the configuration of your typo3 instllation
17:56 uschi installation, i mean
17:58 Denyerec pulponair - do you use quakenet at all?
17:58 Denyerec IRC server?
17:59 AleX-TeQ this leads to another problem the install folder has been deleted
17:59 pulponair Denyerec: : no
17:59 Ries uschi: I am quite buzy actually...
17:59 AleX-TeQ how can get access to the configuration file remotely
18:00 uschi hm
18:01 Denyerec Well you could easily connect there once my friend comes online
18:01 Denyerec mind you
18:01 Denyerec he does a lot of OSS stuff so he's prbably on freenode anyway
18:08 uschi this is driving me mad. the third day spent with trying to assign a calculated integer-value to an entryLevel
18:10 pulponair Denyerec: i need a company any not a one man show ;)
18:10 Denyerec a company will only assign one man to it
18:10 Denyerec :)
18:11 Denyerec My company is called Sozu.
18:11 Denyerec I am the only employee
18:11 Denyerec may any difference? :)
18:11 Denyerec *make
18:11 bedlamhotel Uschi: what happens if you check the "is root of website" box in the page record?
18:12 uschi then everything is cleared, and that is what i do not want
18:12 uschi the problem is that you cannot assign a ts-object to entryLevel, because it has no stdWrap
18:13 uschi but then how to calculate a value without ts?
18:13 Wol hi, i have a question for us!!
18:13 uschi this is really silly
18:13 Wol i want an FE extention where i can manage files and directory
18:13 uschi can i do something like this?
18:13 pulponair Denyerec: jep...there is a minimal company size requierment :) (big companies are kinda strange sometimes)
18:14 Denyerec Weird.
18:14 uschi in the constants block: myLevel = {$mainlevel} + 1
18:14 uschi ?
18:14 Denyerec Well this guy's very good.
18:14 Denyerec So you can talk to him when he comes online, and see if he's any use.
18:14 pulponair Denyerec: i gotta go ..lets continue our conversation tomorrow
18:14 Denyerec gimme your email address
18:14 pulponair Denyerec, Ries: bye guys
18:15 Denyerec so I can get him to mail you
18:15 pulponair Denyerec: see private
18:16 uschi hi danielkoch
18:16 uschi are you the one who wrote the book?
18:19 bedlamhotel Uschi, as far as I can tell from the way you describe your problem, it should be solved by adding entryLevel = -1 to the HMENU.
18:19 bedlamhotel ...it works here.
18:19 uschi hm
18:19 uschi i will try
18:20 uschi but then there is still the problem, that i would like to calculate the mainmenu entrylevel as well
18:20 bedlamhotel Uschi: in other words, I have a multi-level tree, one TS template, and clicking on any link in the tree causes the menu to display only child pages of the current page.
18:21 bedlamhotel "i would like to calculate the mainmenu entrylevel": what for?
18:21 uschi because my portals start on different levels
18:22 uschi they may start at level 1 or at level 3 or 7
18:22 uschi this is more or less arbitrary
18:22 uschi i never thought that i would have problems with menus
18:22 bedlamhotel ? But that's what entryLevel = -1 does...
18:23 uschi but then every subpage will become a portal
18:23 bedlamhotel Ah, so that's it.
18:24 uschi i do admit that it seems a bit complicated
18:24 uschi you can do each and everything with typo3, but you cannot calculate the entrylevel?
18:25 bedlamhotel Uschi: no, that's not complicated. All you need to do is find something about the 'portal' pages that is /consistently different from the other pages/
18:25 bedlamhotel For example, do the portal pages have a different TV template etc?
18:25 uschi the problem is that i cannot assign a dynamic value to the entrylevel
18:25 uschi this is the problem
18:26 bedlamhotel No, that's almost certainly not the problem.
18:26 uschi i can calculate the appropriate value, but i cannot assign it
18:26 uschi it is
18:26 uschi because entrylevel does not have stdWrap
18:26 uschi you can assign a constant
18:26 bedlamhotel Nope :-)
18:26 uschi but not a TS object
18:29 AleX-TeQ i tested it locally it doesnt work
18:30 AleX-TeQ the greek font
18:36 AleX-TeQ does anyone have a clue why i get &#963;&#960;&#953;&#964;&#953; this instead of the greek word for company
18:41 voidus AleX-TeQ: what is your forceCharset?
18:51 AleX-TeQ $TYPO3_CONF_VARS['BE']['forceCharset'] = 'iso-8859-7';
18:52 voidus AleX-TeQ: hm.. i use utf-8 everywhere
18:53 AleX-TeQ do you have to write in greek ??
18:54 _maniac_ Hi, I went into problems with RealURL and RTEHtmlArea
18:57 _maniac_ It simply wont load after enabling RealURL
19:00 _maniac_ I tried regenerating urls and setting RTE.classesAnchor.internalLink.titleText to blank in TS config…
19:12 Denyerec anyone here ever used Plone ?
19:23 AleX-TeQ bye
19:25 Wol hi someone use mocfilemanager extention?
19:37 Tester110 hi, i want to upgrade typo3 version 3.8 to 4.1 ... is this a good decision?
19:38 Tester110 or is 4.1 to new to upgrade from 3.8?
19:38 Wol yes!!
19:38 Tester110 ok ;) is this the rigth package to upgrade? http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/typo3/typo3_src-4.1.tar.gz?download
19:39 Wol the version 4.1 is better than 3.8 some more features
19:39 Wol yes it's good
19:39 Tester110 when i look in the documentation i don´t get the answer ;(
19:39 Wol and the upgrade module in 4.1 is very easy
19:40 Tester110 but in the documentation must i replace the folders: medfia, tslib ... in the tar package are no folders media, tslib ...
19:40 Tester110 http://typo3.org/documentation/document-library/installation/doc_inst_upgr/1.0.0/view/4/3/#id2841606
19:40 Wol we did the upgrade in some sites and with out any problem
19:41 Tester110 can you describe in short words, how do you upgrade your typo3 versions please
19:41 Wol heee
19:41 Wol first backup your typo3 installation
19:41 Tester110 ok, it´s done ;)
19:42 Wol after decompress typo3 4.1 src in your installation directory
19:42 Wol execute the install tool
19:42 Wol and work on
19:42 Tester110 ok ... i have this as source dir on my webserver ..typo3_src-3.8.1
19:42 Tester110 that´s not so fine... how did you named your source folder?
19:43 Tester110 the install-tool is this : http://WEBSERVER/typo3/install/index.php or?
19:46 Wol yes
19:46 Wol and you don't need to rename your original website folder
19:53 Tester110 ok.. i can copy the 4.1 source in the typo3_src-3.8.1 folder... i don´t must change my symlinks ';))
19:53 Tester110 thanks for your help!
19:56 Ries Tester110: yes you must change symlinks (if you have them)
19:56 Ries and in the install tool update your DB
19:56 Ries I am not sure IF you can upgrade from 3.8 directly to 4.1 though
20:02 dertotbringer hi there - i've got a problem with my typo3 - i changed server and german "umlauts" like üöä won't be display in gifbuilder - even if i $TYPO3_CONF_VARS['FE']['forceCharset'] = 'utf-8'; ...
20:02 dertotbringer any help? :)
20:11 Tester110 how can i enable the install tool? i have created a dir ENABLE_INSTALL_TOOL but nothing happens i get this message: The Install Tool is locked
20:14 Ries Tester110: doesn't it so to create a FILE with that name?
20:15 Tester110 yupp ... ok...
20:15 Tester110 ;)
20:16 dertotbringer hi there - i've got a problem with my typo3 - i changed server and german "umlauts" like üöä won't be display in gifbuilder - even if i $TYPO3_CONF_VARS['FE']['forceCharset'] = 'utf-8'; ...
20:16 dertotbringer <
20:16 dertotbringer ;)
20:16 uschi Ries, are you still busy?
20:18 Tester110 after i compare the database, then i write the new fields and tables to the database i´m finished ... is this correct?
20:18 nikolaus hallo na is jemand da?
20:22 Ries uschi: Just for a quick question
20:22 Ries Tester110: should be use.. also set compatibility to 4.0.x
20:23 uschi i need to find out how to assign a calculation directly to the value property of a TEXT-object, so that i can myText.value to entryLevel
20:24 uschi if i say mytext.value = {$myConstant} + 2 this is a string that gets only calculated after it is passed through prioriCalc
20:24 uschi but i cannot assign an object to entryLevel
20:24 Tester110 how can i check the extensions versions? i want to install the actual updates for the extensions
20:25 uschi i need to assign the calculated value itself
20:25 uschi and it shall not be an object, but a mere integer value
20:25 CREATION hello
20:26 CREATION I have a question about installing typo3 on a local computer, can someone helpt me please?
20:26 Tester110 hi
20:26 CREATION at the moment I am downloading the files "wininstaller"
20:27 CREATION can I install these installer on a normal win computer like a another programm?
20:27 uschi do you get me, Ries?
20:30 Tester110 after the upgrade, the rte editor doesn´t load ... "The editor is being loaded. Please wait..." but nothing happens ...
20:30 Tester110 i have the version 1.4.3 ionstalled
20:31 CREATION someone that can help?
20:32 Tester110 i have installed xampp to my windows pc, the i install typo3 in the xampp enviroment
20:33 CREATION ok
20:33 CREATION if the download is done
20:34 CREATION than I can install it like all other programms or must be these in a new directory/partition???
20:34 Tester110 i have configured a virtual host for typo3 ... this is required!
20:35 Denyerec Anyone here ever used Plone ?
20:37 CREATION how can I make these virtual host?
20:37 CREATION are there a instruction PDF for the complete install on local computer???
20:37 Tester110 ok... go to your xampp installation: D:\Xampp\xampp\apache\conf\extra
20:37 Tester110 edit this file: httpd-vhosts.conf
20:38 Tester110 <VirtualHost *:80>
20:38 Tester110 ServerAdmin (obscured mail address)
20:38 Tester110 DocumentRoot D:/Xampp/xampp/htdocs/typo3/typo31
20:38 Tester110 ServerName typo31
20:38 Tester110 ErrorLog D:/Xampp/xampp/htdocs/typo3/typo31/localhost-error_log
20:38 Tester110 CustomLog D:/Xampp/xampp/htdocs/typo3/typo31/localhost-access_log common
20:38 Tester110 </VirtualHost>
20:38 Tester110 delete this "#" before NameVirtualHost *:80
20:38 Tester110 that´s it.. edit your host file, and insert a dns entry...
20:39 CREATION are the xampp in the install packege???
20:47 Ries uschi: I don't think you can, if the entryLevel is not a stdWrap, you cannot do much
20:47 uschi shit
20:47 uschi :-(
20:47 Ries remember TS is a configuration language...
20:48 uschi i can assign the value
20:48 uschi that works, but not the whole TEXT-object
20:48 Ries you can assign the constant you mean?
20:48 uschi so i thaught: make the value itself the calculated one
20:48 uschi no i can do it like this
20:49 uschi lib.calc_mainmenu = TEXT
20:49 uschi lib.calc_mainmenu = {$myCostant}
20:49 uschi and then: lib.my_menu.entryLevel < lib.calc_mainmenu.value
20:49 uschi .value forgotten at first
20:50 Ries interesting tha that works..
20:50 uschi so if i could somehow transfer the calculated value to the value of another text objects value ...
20:50 Ries can you do teh calc in lib.calc_mainmenu?
20:50 uschi but how to achieve this
20:50 uschi what do you mean by this?
20:51 Ries uschi: Just like I said...
20:51 uschi yes
20:51 uschi if i output the text object the result is correct
20:52 uschi its only a problem of assigning the result
20:57 uschi any idea, Ries?
20:58 Ries uschi: I would need to try it myself to give any advice
20:59 Ries last time I did it was like 3-4- months ago
20:59 uschi and did you succeed?
20:59 Ries I mean typoscript..
20:59 Ries I don't do TS that often anymore
21:00 uschi oops
21:00 uschi everything php?
21:00 uschi well, there i would know my way round as well in this case
21:00 Ries I would still check the mountpoint thing...
21:01 uschi but if the page should show up like this for the website user?
21:04 Ries uschi: for me it sounds like there is a T· solution
21:05 uschi a what solution?
21:10 Ries uschi: I think mountpoints is what you need
21:11 uschi whatfore?
21:11 Ries uschi: But I meber done it like that, I just had my 'subsites' always at the sam elevel
21:11 Ries uschi: Are yous till working on the menu thing?
21:11 uschi hm, i cannot have this
21:21 uschi yes, i am
21:33 jpk hi guys
21:34 jpk strang problem with realurl. Anybody awake?
22:30 Ries jpk: what is the problem?
22:40 jpk hi and thanks for answering
22:40 jpk when calling http://www.mysite.de/de/whatever I get a 404 (correct). But calling http://www.mysite.de/whatever I simply get the contents of www.mysite.de
22:41 jpk I think I tracked it down to valueDefault in the preVars/language section.
22:42 jpk If I omit this and change it to bypass things start to work. but then I do not have /de/ for the default language
22:45 Ries so it's a language problem?
22:45 jpk well yes and no.
22:46 jpk Obviously the valuedefault is converting http://www.mysite.de/whatever to http://www.mysite.de/de which in turn gets translated to http://www.mysite.de/?L=0
22:47 jpk That would explain why the rootpage is shown in such cases. I do not even think there is something I can do now that I start understanding what is happening.
22:48 jpk As long as noone links to http://www.mysite.de/wrongurl this should not be a problem for google and co, which is what I was worried about.
22:48 jpk still does not look too right though.
22:49 jpk I would have expected realurl to use the valuemap in decoding process and generate a 404 if the value was not found. The valueDefault should only be used in encoding, should it not?
22:57 Al_Berto does anyone have a hint how to implement a "showcase"?
22:58 Al_Berto i'd need an extension similar to a shop-system but no buy&order features
22:59 Al_Berto i could strip those off an existing shop, but an already existing solution would be easier of course :)
23:04 tansta Hi Ries
23:30 Denyerec I've so far not suceeded in getting a positive response from anyone...
23:30 Denyerec anyone here ever tried Plone ?
23:31 tansta what's Plone ?
23:31 Denyerec It's another CMS, based on Python.
23:32 Denyerec It *looks* very nice indeed.
23:32 Denyerec But looks can be deceiving.
23:32 tansta Denyerec: have you ever had server problem with typo3 ?
23:32 Denyerec Used on some very high profile sites.
23:32 Denyerec tansta I've had every type of problem with Typo3... :)
23:32 Denyerec What in particular ?
23:34 tansta performance
23:34 Denyerec It's a monster.
23:34 Denyerec Ries has done some performance enchancements
23:34 Denyerec so you'd best ask him if you can catch him...
23:35 tansta really ?
23:35 Denyerec Yeah
23:35 tansta shit, no wonder my host threaten to ban typo3 :(
23:35 Denyerec He did MySQL cache and some PHP accellerator thing
23:35 Denyerec Who are you with?
23:35 tansta Ilisys.com.au
23:36 tansta http://typo3.org/development/articles/testing-and-tuning-typo3-performance/page/4/?tx_rlmpofficedocuments_pi1%5Bview%5D=multiple&cHash=6fa83ee620
23:36 tansta this document explain a few basic but, nothing in details :)
23:38 Denyerec Try Ries or Gerards
23:39 tansta Gerards
23:39 tansta Ries
23:39 tansta pleaes help
23:39 tansta please
23:39 tansta hehehe
23:39 tansta kinda desparate
23:39 Denyerec heehehe
23:39 Denyerec you'll need the bat symbol
23:39 Denyerec as neither is online
23:39 tansta @Ries
23:39 tansta is that right ?

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