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00:14 voidus Denyerek: what happens? :)
00:17 Denyerec Lots to do, etc/
00:17 Denyerec Trying to work my way through a localisation tutorial
00:17 Denyerec and then a fe_users setup (Never done one before...)
00:27 Ries Denyerec: Nice image of the moon you made
00:27 Denyerec Thanks
00:34 gerards huh moon?
00:37 Ries gerards: You... you know the round ball in teh sky that gives less light then the other ball?!?!
00:37 gerards moon...
00:38 gerards great white face.
00:38 gerards me understand now.
00:47 Denyerec Oh
00:47 Denyerec You've seen the photo of the moon on my site?
00:52 tansta_ what photo ?
00:53 Denyerec um
00:53 Denyerec Website-> http://www.denyerec.co.uk/
00:53 Denyerec On the right
00:53 Denyerec the big orange moon
00:54 tansta_ oh wow that's nice
00:54 tansta_ is that photoshop or a real photo ?
00:54 Denyerec Lunar eclipse last month
00:54 Denyerec took that from the back garden
00:55 tansta_ that's good shit mate :)
00:55 Denyerec Thanks cobber
00:55 Denyerec :)
00:55 Denyerec Is there a tutorial anywhere for setting up fe_user stuff ?
00:56 tansta_ what's a chav ?
00:56 Denyerec Um
00:57 tansta_ yes there is
00:57 Denyerec www.chavscum.co.uk
00:57 tansta_ its easy to set it up just follow the tutorial from the extension
00:59 Denyerec In which extension ?
01:00 tansta_ fe_user
01:00 tansta_ fe_user_registration
01:01 tansta_ the tutorial is at the end of the docs
01:07 Denyerec Super!
02:54 Guest847 i just installed the quickstart of typo 3 and rant the installer, the frontend appears to work fine, but when i attempt to goto the backend i get a white screen that says, "Fatal error: Call to undefined method t3lib_extMgm::addmodulepath() in /Users/<removed>/typo3conf/temp_CACHED_ps7c85_ext_tables.php on line 774", and i don't know what to do about the error.
03:33 Guest389 I am trying out typo3 with the quickstart and attempted to add a registeration page via the extention, feuser_admin, but that doesn't add the user, it seems to have its own user list associated with it, hwo do i setup a registeration process?
03:38 Ries Guest389: Did you read teh manual about fe_userregistration?
03:38 Ries The extension?
03:51 Guest389 huh
04:35 Guest389 I am trying out typo3 with the quickstart and attempted to add a registeration page via the extention, feuser_admin, but that doesn't add the user, it seems to have its own user list associated with it, how do i setup a registeration process?
06:20 thevikas hi everyone!
06:23 thevikas i need to use a file.import = uploads/pics/ in TMENU... but the image are within the menu items and no in the root.
06:40 tansta_ if a folder's permission is set to 2777, all files uploaded to it should inherit the file permission is that correct ?
07:10 dax77 good morning @all
07:11 zatmania hi all
07:11 zatmania hi dax77
07:11 dax77 hi zat
07:11 dax77 zatmania: do you know a font which displays all unicode chars?
07:14 dax77 or could someone download this ftp://ftp.netscape.com/pub/communicator/extras/fonts/windows/Cyberbit.ZIP and send it to me? I don't have ftp access :(
07:16 Guest389 I am trying out typo3 with the quickstart and attempted to add a registeration page via the extention, feuser_admin, but that doesn't add the user, it seems to have its own user list associated with it, how do i setup a registeration process?
07:17 dax77 never mind, it works with http:// too
07:24 Jigal hi @ll
07:26 zatmania hi Jigal
07:26 dax77 hi Jigal
08:05 Jigal hi dax77, anty, helli_t3w
08:06 helli_t3w mornign Jigal
08:15 Jigal morning zatmania
08:33 MarwolTuk hello
08:34 MarwolTuk i'm seaching for some documation about the script cObject, bu wasn't able to find anything... anyone here who could help?
08:36 tobi MarwolTuk: look here at Content Objects (cObject) http://typo3.org/documentation/document-library/references/doc_core_tsref/4.0.0/view/toc/0/
08:43 MarwolTuk tanks, but i've allready found that, but hte thing is, i need documentation about that what you can create from the web > page menü... typo-script seams documented well, but ther is nearly no information about the "normal" work with typo3...
08:44 koomi MarwolTuk: there is a doc for the "enduser"
08:44 FloLeBlanc hi all
08:45 Jigal hi FloLeBlanc
08:45 Jigal hi drindt
08:46 dax77 hi FloLeBlanc, hi drindt
08:49 FloLeBlanc hi jigal, hi dax77
08:52 drindt moin moin
09:06 MarwolTuk koomi: the only thing which could serve this topic Ive found is the "Handbuch für Redakteure", but theres also nothing useful in, about script. My problem is, if you insert a PHP-script via typo-script, you are able to say where the code is stored& but using web > page, I couldnt find something similar& so my main question is: where is it stored in that case?
09:07 koomi MarwolTuk: no idea. why do you need to upload php scripts?
09:12 MarwolTuk thie problem is my the old webpage of my firm had a feature to put in infos corespodending with a programm version of ouer product, whitch was written in PHP and included that way... i am able to prog PHP so it's my job to do someting similar for ouer new page, but my problem is, i've stated work with typo3 about 1,5 months ago...
09:17 koomi MarwolTuk: that sounds like you want a special content element
09:18 koomi MarwolTuk: you can write custom mysql queries in typo3 using the content/records element
09:23 MarwolTuk my main problem is to find the existing code to analyse it...
09:24 FloLeBlanc Jigal, dax: how are you? :)
09:29 MarwolTuk koomi: i think i've found the code in the old page, so thank you for the help you gave me...
09:37 Jigal hi FloLeBlanc; I'm very slow this morning ;-P . How are you?
09:38 FloLeBlanc jigal: quite fine thx, loads of work and always too few pay ;)
09:38 Jigal It's snowing here at the moment... :-?
09:41 FloLeBlanc we only had rain
09:44 Jigal FloLeBlanc: it must be the climate that's getting warmer.... almost spring, temperature just above zero, and snow
09:46 FloLeBlanc jigal: lol
09:46 FloLeBlanc weird
09:49 beev0r how can i add attributes to the links in my HMENU?
09:51 beev0r addParams probably
09:51 voidus beev0r: in TMENU, ATagParams for TMENUITEM...
09:51 voidus ah, maybe
09:51 beev0r but how do i use it? tmenu.addParams = style="color: #123456" ?
09:52 voidus tmenu.NO.addParams = style ="color: #123456";
09:52 beev0r ok thx
09:54 beev0r hm
09:55 beev0r i dont think that's what i am looking for
09:56 beev0r ATagParams
09:56 beev0r thats it
10:05 just2b_ good morning
10:06 Jigal good moaning!
10:06 just2b_ damn i hate things that don't work
10:06 just2b_ hi jigal...
10:06 Jigal you hate me?? LOL
10:06 just2b_ lol
10:06 just2b_ no, just a damn wizard
10:07 just2b 04jigal, you ever say my ext BE?
10:08 Jigal just2b: ever since Harry Potter I stopped trusting wizards ;-P
10:08 Jigal just2b: which ext?
10:08 just2b 04since "dresden files" i like them ^^
10:08 just2b 04rggooglema
10:08 Jigal no, never seen the BE...
10:09 just2b adapting a very nice wizard of bernahrd, but doesn't work out currently..
10:10 brain-xy hello all :)
10:11 just2b lol
10:13 FloLeBlanc hi brain-xy
10:13 brain-xy hi FloLeBlanc
10:28 EvilEd Hi
10:28 EvilEd i'm looking for a method to Clear FE_cache for named pages
10:29 EvilEd normally this pages should be cached but somtime for some actions those pagecaches needs to be cleared
10:33 Fanty how do I get typo3 to place <style> headers added with templavoilas header selection to a temporary css file instead of it as a header section?
10:43 gcop1 hi all
10:44 zatmania hi gcop1
11:15 just2b re
11:17 zatmania re
11:29 eeos hi everybody!
11:30 zatmania hi eeos
11:30 eeos zatmania hi! long time no see you.
11:30 zatmania i'm here veryday
11:30 zatmania instead week end ;)
11:33 eeos zatmania me too, weekend is weekend (I prefer when it is weekend really)
11:33 eeos :)
11:33 zatmania me too :)
11:33 zatmania vene if weather is awfulllike today
11:34 eeos zatmania here is veeeeery cold :(
11:34 eeos weekdend was good thoug
11:35 zatmania just w8 & see again sunshine
11:40 alexwx hello friends, i need to do some contitions, page.10.marks.CONTENT < styles.content.get - if styles.content.get is empty, then set the &nbsp; into the marker... how to? thank you
11:40 koomi is there a way to count occurences of a string with ts?
11:40 koomi i need to replace/split the page title but the placement varies ...
11:49 alexwx please check it someone, how to do that? that doesnt work, thank you http://phpfi.com/217283
11:54 Jigal re
11:57 eeos hi Jigal
11:57 Jigal hi eeos!
12:02 pulponair hi
12:02 pulponair eeos: you got mail
12:02 Jigal hi pulponair
12:02 eeos pulponair thanks!
12:02 eeos pulponair I saw it, I have to generate the patch now.
12:04 eeos pulponair I answered because I did not realise the file was already attached. :D
12:04 pulponair eeos: ah ok
12:11 beev0r anyone here an idea how i can inherit the content of columns on the pages' subpages
12:11 beev0r i.e: - page1
12:11 beev0r -- page 1.1
12:11 beev0r -- page 1.2
12:11 beev0r my page 1 has content in the right column
12:11 beev0r and i want that content to appear on page 1.1 and 1.2 as well
12:12 Ries beev0r: check RECORDS in ts ref
12:12 neostar hi
12:12 Jigal beev0r: you can make shortcuts to content elements by inserting a content element of type "inser records"
12:13 Jigal (that is "insert records")
12:13 tobi also the slide property of CONTENT helps here a lot ..
12:15 beev0r oh pretty cool. thx
12:16 beev0r but can i set an option anywhere "inherit on all subpages automatically" or something like that?
12:18 beev0r oh i see. slide property
12:19 beev0r now it's getting complicated: is it possible to realize that an author can choose which content element to be inherited and which not?
12:20 tobi you could use the kickstarter and extend tt_content with this field and than change your ts select.andWhere
12:24 Denyerec Oh BTW hello all :)
12:25 dax77 Hi Denyerec :)
12:25 Denyerec Heya Dax
12:25 Denyerec Quick Q
12:25 Denyerec you know Typo3 stores the editing history for CE's and pages and such...
12:25 Denyerec how far back does it go ?
12:25 Denyerec and where do you set the limit ?
12:26 dax77 don't know :(
12:28 Denyerec I figured on a large site that might start to chew up storage space
12:28 tobi it is configurable in tsconfig Denyerec, i think default is no limit
12:28 m4rtijn good afternoon
12:32 eeos just2b are you here? I am trying to evocate you!
12:33 Denyerec invocate
12:33 Denyerec I think.
12:41 eeos http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evocation
12:41 eeos :P Denyerec
12:42 m4rtijn does anyone know if its possible to have a GMENU with the buttons having variable margin to the left side.. for example the first button having 100px margin, the 2nd 50px again the 3rd 100px aso.
12:49 Jigal WTF? MrSlurp -> Benjamin -> Bonny -> signed off...!?
12:51 d|g hi all
12:53 alexwx http://phpfi.com/217283
12:53 alexwx helo can anybody help with conditions?
12:54 alexwx hello tobi
12:59 eeos helo tobi
12:59 eeos anyway, it does not look like I am too good with this vodoo thing.
13:01 eeos so i am going to drawn my coding sorrows in some GOOD food
13:01 tobi hi alexwx, hi eeos
13:01 eeos lunch time!
13:01 tobi alexwx: page.10.marks.CONTENT.ifEmpty < test does not work, page.10.marks.CONTENT.ifEmpty.cObject < test is the way to go
13:01 alexwx tobi thanx friend, i go to try it
13:02 Denyerec eeos - An invocation (from the Latin verb invocare "to call on, invoke")
13:03 Denyerec Turns out, both are right, though just2b isn't a spritual or mental construct, so I'm not sure where you draw the line...
13:05 alexwx tobi it doesnt work
13:05 tobi what do you want to do alexwx ?
13:06 alexwx tobi if page.10.marks.CONTENT is empty, then put on the marker nbsp entity
13:09 alexwx tobi sorry if styles.content.get empty..
13:09 alexwx is empty
13:10 Denyerec Is there a good guide to using the user task centre anywhere?
13:10 Denyerec That would be massivly useful
13:14 Denyerec Oh hey, if you grab page content by UID, does it respect translations or not ?
13:14 m4rtijn Denyerec theres a video tut on the task center i think
13:14 Denyerec EG if I grab content element 45, and it has a german translation and I'm in German mode on the FE, will it pull the german CE or the default one ?
13:14 Denyerec martin I will check the podcasts, cheers
13:17 tobi alexwx: try this snippet http://phpfi.com/217317
13:17 FloLeBlanc did anyone in here ever change the login from md5 with javascript to md5 via php?
13:18 tobi it depends Denyerec, for example with RECORDS you cant do multilanguage things, with hmenu and content yes
13:18 Denyerec mmm
13:18 tobi Denyerec, task center is quite straight forward, just install sys_actions and create the actions you want on the globe-page
13:19 Denyerec Neat
13:19 Denyerec tobi just pasting some code
13:19 Denyerec http://wilcoding.xs4all.nl/Wilco/Pastecode/4369/showpaste.aspx
13:19 Denyerec So that should respect translations, if a translation of such a CE exists ?
13:20 zatmania FloLeBlanc : encoding a password in javascript ou php is the same, no ?
13:20 FloLeBlanc zatmania: not if the user doesn't have JS enabled
13:20 martijn_ re
13:20 tobi uhm not with uidInList i think Denyerec
13:20 Denyerec Mmm
13:20 Denyerec how would you perform the same thing, but with translation ?
13:20 Denyerec conditional on language flag
13:20 zatmania FloLeBlanc you want to encrypt with php ?
13:20 Denyerec ?
13:21 tobi you can use conditions on the language or just use one container page where you insert only this element and the translations and use the thing you have without uidInList
13:21 FloLeBlanc zatmania: I want to use php because if the user doesn't have js enabled, he can't login, furthermore even if he does have js enabled if he presses "save my password" (browser function) the md5 gets saved instead of the pw
13:21 tobi i normally use the 2nd aproach
13:22 FloLeBlanc did anyone ever use md5_feuser_password for that?
13:25 j0hndeere Good morning, earth humans.
13:25 alexwx tobi it works thank you
13:25 tobi Denyerec: here is a typical snippet i use for this things http://phpfi.com/217319
13:26 tobi i know that it works, i tried it out ;) ... im getting always a bit confused with override
13:26 FloLeBlanc has anyone ever tryed danp_md5fepassword with typo3 4.0.4 and can confirm if it works with it?
13:26 Denyerec so tobi that just grabs the page ?
13:29 koomi tobi: do you have any idea how a "conditional split" could work? i need to replace a token but the position depends on the amount of tokens found ..
13:29 tobi no, it grabs the contents of the page Denyerec
13:30 Denyerec Right, and if you're in a translated mode, it should grab the correct translation of that page ?
13:30 tobi koomi: if there is some logic yes ( eg. the 3rd, the pre last)
13:31 tobi yes Denyerec, the content of the page in the current language ( if available etc)
13:31 Denyerec Okie.
13:48 koomi tobi: it depends on what kind of content elements are on the page. so there's no way of knowing in advance how many occurrences of the token are on the page. i played around with register:SPLIT_COUNT but it wouldnt work
13:48 koomi wouldnt/didnt
13:49 koomi for example: if there are 2 ###tokens### substitute the second. if there's only one substitue it. if there are 3 substitute the 2nd and leave the rest empty
13:51 tobi hm so you want to wrap the 2nd content element, if there is only one content element wrap that one ?
13:52 koomi jep
14:00 j0hndeere I'm curious... has the bulleted list feature always been dysfunctional
14:03 syrus` does anyone know a tutorial for the dam_downloads extension?
14:04 syrus` or is anyone of you successfully using it? it always shows "No files found." on my page and no downloadable file :-(
14:19 Denyerec damn
14:19 Denyerec Typo3 translation is insanely powerful
14:25 Denyerec in the localisation podcasst Kasper uses a little galery extension that appears to be called tx_thumbgallery
14:25 Denyerec I cannot seem to find this anywhere, yet it appears to be something that I would find very useful.
14:27 just2b drive <.CD
14:27 just2b drive.volume = 10
14:28 Denyerec ...
14:30 pulponair is there a way to use a str_replace via ts?
14:30 just2b pulponair, i guess.. 1sec
14:30 pulponair just2b: for characters >ascii 127
14:31 just2b you use 4.1?
14:31 pulponair yes
14:32 just2b replace > http://www.sk-typo3.de/Typoscript-Reference.223.0.html?&cHash=23e5d022a3&tx_rlmpofficedocuments_pi1%5BshowPage%5D=3
14:32 just2b so > e.g. value:=replaceString(blubb|<b>blubb</b>)
14:32 eeos back
14:32 pulponair just2b:hum? it is quite new right?
14:33 just2b yes.. newer used bug saw it
14:34 eeos just2b: I cannot understand some of the comments you sent me the other day. Doy ou have few seconds to explain, please?
14:34 just2b eeos, sure
14:34 eeos pm
14:35 pulponair just2b: do you think it applies to a tmenu item?
14:35 just2b yes
14:36 just2b pulponair, you are german?
14:36 just2b http://www.typo3.net/forum/list/list_post//59170/?pid=220804&sword=replace
14:36 reber hi all !
14:37 threna1 Problem with FE-User-Login with Typo3 4.0: I have created a SysFolder with web-Usergroup and Web-Users, I have set styles.content.loginform = [my sysfolder PID] in the constants section of the root-template, and I have created a Login Content Element at a page. But if I put in the username an password, just nothing happens, the loginbox gets reloaded. I've tried half the day, deleted and rewritten evertything and even set charset back from utf-
14:37 threna1 result. Have you any idea what could be the reason for disfunction?
14:41 pulponair just2b: doenst seem to work in common with current=1 or value={field:xxx} :|
14:41 Denyerec Did anyone see the typoLight post on the mailling list?
14:42 just2b pulponari: i never tried, so sorry
14:42 just2b denyerec: yes
14:42 Denyerec Did you log in and look around ?
14:42 Denyerec There was an "Images" entry under the filelist module
14:42 Denyerec Any idea what that is / extension name ?
14:43 just2b denyerec this is no typo3, so why do you care... check the code and make an extension for typo3 out of it
14:44 Denyerec just2b - the login someone posted was for a skingrey modified version of Typo3 as an example for th eOP
14:44 Denyerec the OP
14:44 Denyerec eg: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/6466129.stm
14:44 Denyerec DOh
14:44 Denyerec http://t3test.xetpoint.com/typo3/alt_main.php l/p is tester/tester
14:45 syrus` i have a problem with the menu of my page: my menu shows only the first level of my page-tree (that is what i want), but when the fe-user is on a subpage of a level-1-page the menu doesn't show this menu item any longer as "active"... how can i fix that?
14:46 Denyerec syrus` - are you using ACT and CUR in your HMENU ?
14:46 just2b debyerec: so what do you exaclty mean=?
14:46 syrus` yes
14:46 Denyerec just2b - on that BE interface when you look for "Filelist" you see another option "Images"
14:47 Denyerec That appears to be a non-default item, and was wondering if it was an extension or BE setting.
14:47 brain-xy does the direct mail ext include a validation of the users?
14:47 Denyerec syrus` - pastecode your menu code.
14:47 syrus` Denyerec: yes, when i am on a page which is linkes in the menu it works perfectly.... but when entering a subpage of this page it isn't shown as "active" any longer...
14:47 syrus` ok
14:47 just2b denyered: this is a normal extrension.. imagelist or so
14:48 Denyerec ok just2c
14:48 Denyerec :)
14:49 Denyerec http://typo3.org/extensions/repository/view/imagelist/0.0.6/
14:49 Denyerec Appears to be the right one
14:49 syrus` Denyerec: http://phpfi.com/217346
14:52 Denyerec .ah syrus
14:52 Denyerec CUR is the current page
14:52 Denyerec ACT is for pages in the rootline
14:53 Denyerec Do you want to, for example, show something on the current page AND its parent ?
14:54 eeos_ pulponair sorry, connection went
14:54 koomi (templa voila) in which field of the db is the information stored in which field a content element is displayed
14:55 pulponair koomi: xml
14:55 koomi but which field pulponair
14:55 koomi i'm feeling quite stoopid not finding it
14:55 eeos_ pulponair the patching went OK, by the way
14:55 pulponair tx_templavoila_flex
14:56 koomi pulponair: fun thing: those fields are empty in my mysql query browser :)
14:57 pulponair koomi: of course they are blob
14:57 pulponair koomi:aeh sorry mediumtext ...depending on your typo3 version
14:58 koomi pulponair: those fields are only filled if it is a fce
14:58 tobi eeos: http://phpfi.com/217347 does what you want, wrapping always the 2nd and if there is only one wrap that one
14:58 koomi but i need the mapping between tv_field and regular elements (or fce for that matter)
14:58 eeos_ tobi sorry, what are you talking about?
14:58 koomi s/tv_field/fields in the tv template ds
14:59 pulponair koomi: so to mapping?
14:59 tobi sorry eeos, wrong one
14:59 tobi i meant koomi ;)
14:59 koomi tobi: scary
14:59 pulponair koomi: : templatemapping of _tmplobj
14:59 pulponair it is serialized php
15:00 tobi scary but working ;P
15:00 eeos_ pulponair typo3 4.0.4 + tv 1.3.0
15:04 koomi tobi: i'm sorry but i think i didn't make my problem clear enough. http://phpfi.com/217352 describes it more clearly
15:04 eeos_ OT: my nickname seems to be taken, but it is only because the connection is dropping often. how do you resent it, so that I can reuse the same nickname when I reconnect?
15:05 pulponair koomi: is still dont get it
15:06 koomi pulponair: i need to know in which field a ce is "put" - in the tv page module for example. i'm going to change the template for our page and don't want to reassign a few thousand content elements
15:06 esokoll could somebody say "HELLO" please ;)
15:06 koomi hello
15:06 m4rtijn hi
15:06 Denyerec HELLO
15:06 m4rtijn :p
15:07 koomi hrhr
15:07 pulponair koomi: you dont have to just keep the field names an you are fine
15:07 esokoll thanx
15:07 JaXtreme hi there
15:07 pulponair koomi: if you just change the mapping you do not have to care anyway
15:07 koomi pulponair: but how is it stored in the db?
15:08 koomi pulponair: it will be a new template design
15:08 pulponair koomi: what exactly please provide a significant sample
15:08 syrus` Denyerec: what did you mean by: [15:57] <Denyerec> Do you want to, for example, show something on the current page AND its parent ?
15:08 Denyerec Lets say you have home -> about us -> map
15:08 pulponair koomi: nesting of ce/pages has nothing to do with mapping
15:08 Denyerec and when you select the map item
15:08 Denyerec yo want to indicate that both home and about us are also active
15:08 esokoll cu :)
15:08 Denyerec as they are in the parent route to "map"
15:08 syrus` Denyerec: right!
15:09 Denyerec Indeed!
15:09 Denyerec So change CUR for ACT in your TS
15:09 Denyerec as ACT deals with the rootline
15:09 Denyerec (The path to the page you are on)
15:09 syrus` ok, i'll try it :-)
15:09 Denyerec and CUR deals only with the active page itself and not the parents
15:09 Denyerec Anyone here very familiar with Kaspers Localisation podcast ?
15:10 Denyerec I'm up to the part where he creates a localisation user, and he seems only to select one editing field from the accesslist...
15:10 Denyerec This confused me, normally I have to select a whole pile of options.
15:10 syrus` Denyerec: thanks a lot, it works :-)
15:11 Denyerec you're welcome
15:12 Stasik hello
15:12 Stasik i need some help in TMENU
15:12 syrus` how can i create an internal link with TS?
15:12 syrus` Stasik: what is you problem?
15:12 syrus` +r
15:13 Art_Bunten Im new to typo3, I tried to install quick install guide from typo3.org, but only end up with a blank screen when I hit index.php. Can anyone point me to some docs that will help me get started? Thanks!
15:13 Stasik @sytus 2 questions. i have to make a normal element insisible and i dont want the active element to be a link
15:13 Stasik @syrus: i try to make smth like that "Main Menu > sub1 > sub2" on my site
15:14 Denyerec Art_Bunten - at the end of the installation that's pretty much all you should see
15:14 Denyerec you now need to move onto the tutorial "Futuristic Template Building" available on the Typo3 website.
15:15 Denyerec Unlike other CMS systems, Typo doesn't burden you with a stupid default template :)
15:15 Art_Bunten Ah, thanks. The docs made it sound like I would get to a config template
15:16 Denyerec Mm, I am not sure, it's been a while since I follwoed the install guide
15:16 Denyerec but the FTB tutorial is the place to start
15:16 Art_Bunten I'll dothat now. Thanks!
15:17 syrus` Stasik: maybe you can make a normal element invisible by wrapping it into a comment: for example like this: temp.layout_menu.1.NO.wrap = <!--|-->
15:18 Stasik @syrus :) its nice but its a bit of a hack
15:18 Stasik there should be a normal way to do taht
15:18 syrus` Stasik: you can make an item not linkes by using the "noLink" property of the menu state
15:20 Stasik noLink = 1
15:20 Stasik ok, how can i a line to the bottom of menu?
15:20 Stasik i need just 1 div there, its static
15:21 syrus` Stasik: to make an element invisible you could also use the "ATagParams"-property an set an style="display:none;" to your link
15:21 syrus` you can wrap the hole menu:
15:21 syrus` temp.layout_menu.1.wrap = |<div class="bla"></div>
15:22 syrus` but if it is really static it would be better to add it to the template, maybe
15:22 syrus` how can i create an internal link with TS?
15:23 Stasik hmm, i use templavoila
15:23 Stasik no idea where to edit it there
15:23 Stasik can i make some kind of an if in TS?
15:23 threna1 I have tried "newloginbox", but it also tells me "wrong username/ pw". It can't be that difficult? I only need a sysfolder with a fe user group and a user with this group assigned, and the styles.content.loginform.pid = 32, in my case. I did find this problem but no solution in several typo3-groups...
15:23 Stasik my site needs a menu like that main page > sub page > sub sub page
15:23 Stasik if i wrap with ">" it has > in fornt of main page
15:24 eeos_ pulpoair sorry the line dropped again
15:25 eeos_ *pulponair* sorry the line dropped again
15:25 Denyerec Kasper rocks :)
15:27 pulponair damn those value:= functions take place before field evaluation fuck
15:39 FloLeBlanc is there a php function to get a string format? (utf, iso, etc.)
15:40 zatmania the encoding type ?
15:43 Stasik 1 more question: how can i get the name of editor and last time updated on the page?
15:44 FloLeBlanc zatmania: yes
15:46 zatmania FloLeBlanc ! http://fr3.php.net/manual/en/function.iconv-get-encoding.php ?
15:46 FloLeBlanc thank you
15:46 zatmania or this : http://fr3.php.net/manual/en/function.mb-check-encoding.php
15:46 pulponair eeos_: still arround?
15:49 FloLeBlanc Does anyone know how ppl abuse the mailforms without captcha?
15:50 FloLeBlanc or does that only work with injection if they have mailto as action in the form?
15:53 eeos hi again
15:53 eeos pulponair ?
15:54 pulponair could anyone confirme that pdfgeneratore stripes to down links like "about/faq.html
15:54 brain-xy what could be the problem that simulate static doesn't run?
15:54 pulponair " down to "faq.html"
15:54 pulponair eeos: yes
15:54 pulponair overhere :)
15:58 brain-xy any simulateStatic expert in here?
15:59 zat[FarFarAway] nop sorry
16:09 dax77 hi @all
16:10 Denyerec hey Dax
16:10 Denyerec dax seeing as how you'r ehere...
16:11 Denyerec you wouldn't happen to know the name of the extension that adds a datepicker next to date fields in Typo would you?
16:11 Denyerec Backend
16:21 eeos dax77 hi
16:21 dax77 date2cal
16:24 Denyerec Super!
16:34 realoliver Hi everybody !
16:35 realoliver I've a question related to RSS feeds
16:37 FloLeBlanc realoliver: shoot
16:37 realoliver I'm using the push2rss extension to provide RSS feeds for my Timtab Weblog
16:38 realoliver I would like to have a link to the comments in my RSS feeds and the number of comments
16:38 realoliver Is it possible ?
16:40 FloLeBlanc sorry never used push2rss :)
16:51 Denyerec http://www.mcuniverse.com/Taskcenter-Flash-Tutorial.781.0.html
16:51 Denyerec WHy does my taskcentre look nothing like this ?
16:55 Denyerec Also getting listed as a Typo3 consultancy is impossible, you have to write extensions and cotnribute to the core AND develop sites... :S
16:55 Denyerec One of the above would have been nice.
16:57 Jplm Hello, I use $cObj->CONTENT($conf) inside a extension but it doesn't work with USER_INT contents (it only return a INT_SCRIPT.[hash] stuff). How can I render it ?
16:57 JaXtreme with USER
16:57 JaXtreme but then its cached
16:58 JaXtreme had the same problem a few seconds ago
17:00 Jplm so it can't be dynamic ?
17:03 Denyerec GOddamn the task centre is just broken :S
17:08 Denyerec Does anyone know how to use the task center ?
17:09 Denyerec I've installed "recent pages" and I get nothing,.
17:09 Denyerec I'll upload a screenshot of what I see
17:09 j0hndeere I've never tried very hard to make it useful
17:09 j0hndeere I still live in the Bronze Age and use email for most of what it does
17:10 Fabian- hi, what is the best extension to do front end user registration?
17:10 Denyerec j0hndeere I think trying seems to be a waaste of effort.
17:10 Denyerec All the tutorials show wonderful things
17:10 Denyerec and it's NEVER done what they promise for me.
17:10 Denyerec I wonder if I'm siumply not enabling something
17:11 Denyerec http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j166/denyerec/task.png
17:11 Denyerec which is decidedly different to the one here:
17:11 Denyerec http://www.mcuniverse.com/Taskcenter-Flash-Tutorial.781.0.html
17:21 j0hndeere is the tutorial up-to-date on version
17:21 Denyerec http://www.typo3-jack.net/typo3-english-lists-netfielders-de/3249-typo3-task-center-not-working.html
17:22 Denyerec It seems Typo 4 broke the task centre
17:22 j0hndeere but not enabling something is a good guess... if you're a REALLY good guesser maybe you can guess what exactly needs enabled :P
17:22 Denyerec and no-one has fixed it.
17:22 j0hndeere is it a known problem? I haven't paid much attention to taskcenter
17:23 Denyerec I don't know
17:24 Denyerec I keep finding only the same forum post regarding it.
17:27 j0hndeere hmph
17:28 j0hndeere wonder if anybody's actively working on taskcenter
17:34 Denyerec if it's not worked since 3.8 then I doubt it
17:34 Denyerec there's a full workflow extension, but it does far more than I need and would be a pest to configure.
17:34 Denyerec I just wanted user To-Do and Notes
17:35 Denyerec http://bugs.typo3.org/view.php?id=4401
17:38 Denyerec I wish I knew how to code these things
17:38 Denyerec or even where to get started
17:38 Denyerec as a recently-modified-things extension for a BE user surely couldn't be that hard to do ?
17:39 Denyerec j0hndeere don't suppose you read German ?
17:39 j0hndeere Can't say I do.
17:40 j0hndeere Sometimes things that seem like they should be easy end up becoming very tricky once you get into coding them...
17:41 j0hndeere things like recently-modified-things seems like an obvious functionality to have... which very well could mean it isn't there not because no one's thought of it, but because no one's successfully coded it
17:41 Denyerec hahaha
17:41 Denyerec Yes i know what you mean
17:41 Denyerec "It's missing because it was too hard"
17:42 j0hndeere that's the kind of thing OSS is good at picking up... if there's demand, someone will do it sooner or later
17:43 j0hndeere have you browsed the thousands of non-approved extensions?
17:52 realoliver bye everybody !
17:54 Denyerec j0hndeere - I believe I have the extManager set to display everything.
17:57 uschi hi folks :-))
17:59 uschi hi Denyerec, andreasbalzer, bedlamhotel, Rie1 . and the rest
18:00 Denyerec heya uschi
18:00 uschi one of three days of oral exams finished
18:00 uschi back to the world of stdWrap and prioriCalc *g*
18:01 uschi means: stuck between a rock and a hard place
18:12 campino2k hi
18:14 bedlamhotel bonjour uschi.
18:14 uschi can someone tell me how to find out the locales installed on my server
18:14 uschi bonsoir bedlamhotel :)
18:14 uschi gentoo
18:15 uschi i will have to do the language stuff now
18:15 campino2k i'm searching for a TS-Solution for the following: i got a tree with different levels. i display the subpages of the actual page using a special.directory. on the last page of the tree, i can't display SUBpages, but i want to display the subpages of the actual parent page.
18:15 Rie1 Hey uschi
18:15 Rie1 and others :)
18:15 uschi hey Rie number 1
18:16 campino2k uschi: why are your servers locales important? i think for language issues the locales of your BROWSER are important
18:16 uschi yes, this is it, Ries is our number one
18:16 uschi no, the locales of the server are important for formatting dates and sorting things correctly
18:20 campino2k i think if you call the phpinfo()
18:20 campino2k there is a value called LC_CTYPE
18:20 campino2k also _ENV["LC_CTYPE"]
18:21 campino2k for me there is listed de_De.utf-8
18:29 uschi yes, but i do have a multilingual site
18:29 uschi so i do need all the locales
18:29 uschi for example the one for chinese
18:30 uschi the answer seems to be locale -a
18:30 uschi in the shell, campino2k
18:36 uschi dedlfix, die liste ist so lang
18:36 uschi ich kann nicht alle sehen, es faengt erst bei en_ an.
18:36 uschi gibt es einen trick das seitenweise auszugeben?
18:37 uschi hi voidus
18:38 voidus hi uschi
18:38 uschi how do you feel today, being one year older?
18:39 voidus hm.. don't know.. nothing changed. by i neved got such number of present as at this time..
18:40 grma hi, is here the correct place to ask questions about typo3 config , or is it only for development ?
18:41 voidus grma: yes, you can ask all what you want
18:42 grma :-) but do i get help
18:42 voidus depends on your problem :)
18:42 grma i am a typo3 beginner, and have the problem that the text is displaye 2 times at:
18:43 grma http://www.nibuholistichealth.com/
18:43 grma maybe someone has an idea what i make wrong or my error could be ?
18:43 grma s/displaye/displayed
18:45 Denyerec Hey did anyone figure out / find a way to do FIR headers?
18:45 uschi not yet, Denyerec
18:46 Rie1 Denyerec: isn't there an extension for it?
18:46 Denyerec as I see it, you could have a pre-processor that would add a dynamically created classname to the heading, and create a runtime css sheet to include.
18:46 Denyerec I don' tknow Ries
18:46 Denyerec that's why I was asking
18:46 Denyerec :)
18:46 Rie1 Denyerec: well, these FIR headers are based on flash
18:46 Denyerec not sIFR
18:46 Denyerec just standard image replacement.
18:46 Rie1 Ahhh ok...
18:47 Rie1 Why would you want to do it like that?
18:47 Denyerec AFAIk there is a sifr extension
18:47 Denyerec Well, GIFBUilder is nasty for SEO
18:47 Denyerec (And accessibility)
18:47 Denyerec So it's not a good way to do headings as it exists right now.
18:47 bedlamhotel Denyerec: try the extension I suggested on Friday. Manual will get you up and running with image replaced h1s in about 5 minutes. Customizing the images will take longer though.
18:48 Denyerec Don't suppose you want to menion the extension name again bedlam ? :)
18:48 bedlamhotel bh_fir_tools I think is the key
18:49 Denyerec super
18:50 Rie1 Denyerec: I don't understand why a title / alt tag will not work on images for screen readers
18:51 campino2k how can i access the parent page of the acftual page?
18:51 Denyerec It doesn't convey document heirarchy, so google doesn't like it so much
18:51 Denyerec Google sees a <h2> as a section of a document
18:51 Denyerec and gives huge weighting to it
18:51 Denyerec It cannot make the same assumptions from an image with ALT tags
18:51 Rie1 I have seen websites all in flash that had a huge page ranking ;)
18:53 Rie1 well, you know better about that stuff then me I think
18:57 Denyerec There are ways to make flash accessible
18:58 Denyerec I mean sIFR the flash replacement method is 100% OK
18:58 Denyerec as the underlying markup is not altered.
18:58 Denyerec But in Typo3 when you use a standard graphical header it just drops in an image, which is not sematically correct, as it should be a heading of level <hX>
19:00 Rie1 Denyerec: So basicly uou want a H1 with a underlying CSS background image?
19:01 voidus Denyerec: there is an extension for sIFR
19:01 Denyerec Yeah Ries
19:01 Denyerec and I think the plugin from Bedlam does just that
19:01 Denyerec and voidus - I think we covered the sifr thing just before you got here, but thanks :)
19:01 Denyerec OH!
19:01 Rie1 that doesn't sound to hard...
19:01 Denyerec Voidus I had a question for you earlier...
19:01 Denyerec Damn thing is now you're here I don't remember what it was
19:02 Denyerec I'm sure it'll come back to me.
19:02 voidus Denyerec: hehe.. remember quicker - my internet is very slow and buggy today
19:03 Denyerec haha it's OK
19:03 Denyerec it can't be urgent or I'd be hopping up and down with it.
19:03 Denyerec http://typo3.org/documentation/document-library/extension-manuals/cron_autoaccesskeys/0.1.0/view/1/1/ nice
19:05 Denyerec mm
19:05 Denyerec I think there are better plugins around for that
19:07 socken23 Hi all! I must be blind: How can I create a FE-usergroup??
19:09 voidus socken23: go to web>list module, then select a globe page or sysfolder in page tree, and click "create new record"
19:10 socken23 voidus: But then I only get BE-usergroup!
19:10 voidus socken23: no, you can create a FE usergroup too
19:10 socken23 voidus: that's strange, let me double check....
19:11 socken23 voidus: is it called Frontend usergroup?
19:12 voidus it is called "website usergroup"
19:12 socken23 Mhh... I really don't have that ;-)
19:12 socken23 That's what I said, I must be blind
19:12 socken23 You don't need any plugins for that, do you!?
19:12 voidus no
19:13 socken23 man... I don't get it
19:13 voidus are you sure you select sysfolder and not ordinal page?
19:13 socken23 yes, the one with the globe
19:13 socken23 aha, wait a sec
19:14 socken23 okok, I get it.. I have to select my storage folder ;-)
19:14 socken23 Thanks for the fast help!!!
19:14 voidus you are welcome)
19:14 socken23 Oh, and while I'm at it... Does anyone now better extension for 'holiday planning' than jw_calendar??
19:14 socken23 jw_calendar seems to be a little buggy
19:16 voidus i think 'cal' extension is a best calendar..
19:17 socken23 I'll check that out then
19:17 socken23 thanks again :-D
19:17 voidus np)
19:17 socken23 OK, see you all!
19:17 socken23 bb
19:17 Olegs does anybody got an example of how to connect sr_feuser_register to paypal?
19:26 campino2k how can i access the "PID"-Field of the actual page? I don't mean the UID!
19:26 campino2k but the uid of the parent page
19:27 campino2k i need this for a special.directory
19:28 moodaepo CAMPINO2K: pidInList maybe you should look into that?
19:29 campino2k moodaepo: kind of.
19:30 campino2k i need to assign the parent pageID as special.value
19:32 voidus campino2k: .data = leveluid:-1
19:32 moodaepo : ) I was just going to say that
19:33 moodaepo pidInList.data = leveluid:1 or -1
19:34 campino2k okay. so i'll have a try
19:52 campino2k i don't think i got that right here: http://phpfi.com/217443
19:53 campino2k i somehow don't get the point
19:53 campino2k after almost 16 hours spending time on the damn login after update from 4.0.5 to 4.1
19:57 bedlamhotel campino2k: you know that that menu will create invalid html, right?
19:58 campino2k the html is not the problem. i can handle this, but my problem is the point of getting the right page
19:59 bedlamhotel Well, working our way down...
20:00 bedlamhotel ...the 'if' on .10 is unnecessary
20:00 bedlamhotel ...the 'if' on .20 appears to HIDE level 2 /if there are items in it/
20:01 bedlamhotel ...the 'select' makes no sense in the place you've put it...
20:01 bedlamhotel ...and finally, it is not at all clear what you are trying to do that doesn't work.
20:01 campino2k the if on .20 is right, becauuse 20 shoul be shown if no pages are in it
20:02 bedlamhotel That--as I mentioned in the English list to someone this morning--is the DEFAULT behaviour of menu objects.
20:02 bedlamhotel Sorry. Misunderstood.
20:02 bedlamhotel You are right about .20 in that case.
20:03 campino2k otherwise (if some pages are nested), 10 should be shown as a directory of subpages
20:03 campino2k if there are none (.20), a list of subpages of the current parent page should be shown
20:03 campino2k the "sister pages" if you want to say
20:04 bedlamhotel that's not going to happen with your code, because .special needs a value...
20:04 campino2k and now to the select: if have no clue where to set because this has to apply on .20
20:05 bedlamhotel Typoscript objects have their properties listed in the TSref. As a general rule, if you don't see '.select' in the HMENU section of the TSref, you will NOT be able to use it.
20:05 campino2k but i can't create a list with all page_ids
20:05 bedlamhotel What are you attempting to do? Your question is very vague.
20:06 bedlamhotel It needs to be much more concrete in order to offer you useful advice.
20:06 campino2k standard is a menu of sub pages of my actual page
20:06 bedlamhotel when you say that, do you mean the /current/ page?
20:06 campino2k if there are no, my menu should show all pages same level
20:06 campino2k like my page, i'm surfin on is id 27
20:07 campino2k there are three pages on the same level: 25, 26, 28
20:07 campino2k the parent of all those 4 is page id = 10
20:08 campino2k if i'm surfing on page 10, the menu (like .10) will show 25,26,27,28
20:08 campino2k and if i'm on one of the sub pages, the menu will be empty
20:09 campino2k but i want the menu to show still 25,26,27,28
20:09 bedlamhotel In any case, the first thing you need to understand about TS is that you can't just invent properties for objects and expect it to work
20:10 campino2k i don't invent and try and hope. but after almost 2 days of searching, reading and aksing, i am desprate
20:10 campino2k absolutly desperate
20:11 campino2k there must be a way to get that function, but _I_ don't know the way
20:12 bedlamhotel Well, the first thing you need to figure out is what /condition/ to use to display the one menu and the other.
20:13 bedlamhotel The logical thing, I think is the 'pid' field from the 'pages' table.
20:14 Stasik hello
20:14 bedlamhotel Your 'if' statments also don't use intelligible TS at the moment.
20:14 campino2k Stasik: hi
20:15 campino2k bedlamhotel: i got that code from the german typo3-list
20:15 Stasik i have a problem with typo clear install
20:16 Stasik when i try to edit the page content and upload a image there it just shows me no image
20:16 bedlamhotel campino2k: it just makes no sense: check the TSref, 'isTrue' has no property called 'numRows'--not directly.
20:16 Stasik sec field of the image is empty
20:17 bedlamhotel campino2k: what I think you may need to do is a CONTENT object instead of HMENU. But if the menus need to be nested it won't work the way you intend.
20:17 campino2k there is no nesting in the menus
20:17 campino2k just one level
20:17 bedlamhotel Oh. Good then.
20:18 bedlamhotel hang on a sec and I'll give you something to try
20:19 Stasik the src field is jsut empty
20:20 bedlamhotel campino2k: do you understand sql reasonably well?
20:27 bedlamhotel Campino2k: darn, I've just had an appointment rescheduled, sorry about that I have to split for a couple of hours.
20:31 campino2k bedlamhotel: sorry for not answering, but i had some trouble here
20:31 campino2k i do understand some sql, though
20:36 gerards hi all. http://phpfi.com/217453 a <button> html tag wrapped by a <a> tag does work in IE.
20:36 gerards is there a standard solution? If not, I'm going to have to put a onclick="window.location = 'http://www.yahoo.com';" there. :(
20:41 campino2k gerards: the return false on the first one tells not only the button to return false but cancels the link action also
20:42 Ries gerards: are you usung dojo there?
20:42 gerards no
20:42 Ries gerards: why the button tag?
20:42 gerards its a client code.
20:42 gerards :)
20:42 Ries damn clients...
20:42 Ries it might not work indeed...
20:43 Ries gerards: The DSL guys came today... guess what
20:43 Ries They wehre testing with a Adsl modem :D
20:43 gerards telephone line is SCREWED UP!
20:43 gerards oh.
20:43 gerards most DSLs are ADSLs right?
20:44 gerards not many providers give sync DSLs.
20:44 Stasik Hello 1 question
20:44 Stasik how can i place "last edited by bla bla" on my size
20:46 Ries gerards: well, if the contract says DSL, and not ADSl.... what can I expect?!?!?!
20:47 gerards Ries: you shold have asked. AFAIK no provider here gives SDSL (does this acronym exist?)
20:49 gerards Stasik, I assume "bla bla" == username.
20:49 gerards Stasik: I don't think content elements store the feuser who edited it in the tables.
20:53 Ries gerards: they had ADSL and DSL packages....
20:53 Ries I could pick it from a list...
20:53 Ries so guess what, I picked DSL....
20:54 gerards oh.
20:54 gerards well. we ARE living in Ecuador...
20:54 Ries gerards: yeaaa... they keep on printing that on my forehead....
20:55 Ries gerards: Actually, I send teh cable guys to hell last saterday and I made teh guy personally responsible for me smashing teh cable modem
20:55 gerards :) so they're coming back tomorrow with a real machine Ries?
20:55 Ries today no problems so far ;)
20:55 Ries this afternoon actually...
20:55 gerards nice.
20:55 Ries I also said it quite rude, and with the option to forward the phonecall to his 'Jeve'
20:56 Ries I was amazed that they didn't hung up after my ran :D
20:56 Ries rant
20:57 gerards Ries: :D say what you want, the customer service people have to put up with LOADs of angry clients, because their technicians screw up everything.
20:57 Ries Huuuraaaay Gizmo 3 is released :D
20:57 gerards poor girls probably get cursed 5 times per hour.
20:57 gerards and its not even their fault...
20:58 Ries Well... poor Ries.... get's kicked out of the internet 5 times per hour, and it's not even his fault
20:59 gerards yeah... and we NEVER get to talk to the people responsible.
21:00 Ries indeed... we will keep this cable modem and downgrade it... so we can use it for Karina's shop
21:00 Ries We want to make a hotspot in the shop with free internet
21:02 gerards then you cna tell her customers if you internet disconnects, its SAtnet's fault.
21:02 gerards spread the news.
21:03 Ries hahaha yes yes :D
21:03 Ries we will see how that goes
21:03 Ries You don't see it to often here so it might be a nice catch
21:10 Stasik so its impossible to show last updated date and user on a page?
21:10 gerards Stasik: last updated date is no problem.
21:10 gerards well its not NO PROBLEM.
21:10 gerards there's some problem.
21:11 gerards but i think user (for tt_content) is impossible.
21:11 gerards i'm sure there are extensions for what you want.
21:15 Fabian- what is the best extension for front end user registraton?
21:17 Olegs_ does anybody got an example of how to connect sr_feuser_register to paypal?
21:18 Ries gerards: They guy i shere, hurraaay
21:18 Ries cross your fingers
21:19 Fabian- Olegs_ you have a working example of sr_feuser_register i can try out? (not the paypal part)
21:20 Olegs_ fabian - yes I do
21:20 Stasik ok, how do i show it?
21:20 Fabian- you have a url where i can try it?
21:21 Olegs do you want to help me with paypal or you have a problem with the ext?
21:22 Olegs Fabian-: see private
21:26 Fabian- i cant respond
21:26 Fabian- i need to login, wait
21:28 Stasik so u have no idea how i sh ow last edited date?
21:35 Stasik ping?
21:35 Olegs Stasik: look on typo3 mailing list
21:35 Olegs there was a message from Peter explaining how to do that
21:37 Stasik group?
21:38 Olegs the typo3-english list
22:02 jav Hi there! I'm trying to tweak the 'click-enlarge' functionality to be able to have the popup show another image than on the website ... I was hoping the extension mdrs_alternativepopupimage is exactly what I'm looking for, but it doesn't seem to have any effect on the popup (?) .. unfortunately it doesn't come with a manual, so I don't know if I miss something .. anyone has experience with this extension by any chance?
22:10 rogerbrogo hi jav, use "link" to link to your correctly sized alternate image instead of "click enlarge"
22:11 Ries gerards: They just installed the cable system
22:11 Ries Guess what, at first they gave me a private IP
22:12 Ries Now I have a static public address
22:12 jav rogerbrogo: I tried that, but this doesn't give me the advantage of the standard popup function - most importantly the nice 'close on click' functionality and also the fact, that the popup automatically figures out the right size .. I'd really like to not have to go without that functionality
22:17 Denyerec Has anyone tried cron_accessiblemenus ?
22:17 Denyerec or any other auto-accesskey tool?
22:17 Ries I wan't clear... as usual..
22:18 jav I see .. I figured out what my problem was .. I had to include something from the extension into my template .. now it's working and in fact exactly doing what I was hoping for :-)
22:36 Stasik hello, i can not find it :(
22:39 Denyerec No takers on the accessible menus ?
22:52 bedlamhotel denyerec: you've been going on about accessible menus for a couple of weeks: what is the problem? It just doesn't seem like that tough a problem that you could still be working on it...
22:53 Denyerec Things take me a very long time.
22:53 Denyerec Because I end up reading about every little thing connected to them to weigh up whether it's "The right thing to do"
22:53 bedlamhotel heh :) Maybe we haven't explained it well enough.
22:53 Denyerec (and it's only been a week)
22:53 bedlamhotel But what does the desired html look like?
22:54 Denyerec I've found an extension that "automatically" adds accesskeys to menus, but Accesskeys, it turns out, aren't really that great for many people.
22:54 bedlamhotel True. Some additional new issues w/Firefox v 2.x unless I'm mistaken.
22:55 Denyerec Indeed
22:55 Denyerec and issues with FF1.5
22:55 Denyerec and the beloved IE
22:55 Denyerec The list goes on
22:55 bedlamhotel Quite.
22:56 bedlamhotel I thought you were mainly having trouble with TS...
22:56 Denyerec Oh, no.
22:56 Denyerec Moreover "What is the best approach to accessible navigation"
22:58 bedlamhotel No 'best'. Many small things you can do though. Have you looked over the WAI checklist? [http://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG10/full-checklist.html]
22:59 bedlamhotel ...I see that GAIM put the closing ']' into the link. It should just be http://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG10/full-checklist.html
23:08 Denyerec See now bedlamhotel
23:08 Denyerec I've read up that Acceskeys are a bad idea
23:08 Denyerec and that one should provide rel="stuff" LINK information at the top of the page.
23:08 Denyerec Also that the menu tab order should be correct.
23:09 Denyerec And that people without "skip navigation" links should burn in hell
23:09 Denyerec So I'm asking myself the questions "Can typo autogenerate <link rel="...."/> links in the header, and how does one craft a skip to content link that prefixLocalAnchors won't mutilate.
23:09 Denyerec And finally how to make my dropdown JS menu keyboard navigable :)
23:12 bedlamhotel Deneyrec: <link rel="..." /> is a TMENU problem:
23:12 bedlamhotel page.headerData.5 = HMENU... etc
23:13 bedlamhotel menu tab order should be correct if you do nothing unless I'm much mistaken...
23:15 bedlamhotel skip content: http://phpfi.com/217514
23:16 Denyerec presuming you changet "content" for the ID of your content div ?
23:16 bedlamhotel Correct.
23:17 bedlamhotel Incidentally with respect to the link-element navigation, check out HMENU.special = browse (can be used for previous/next links)
23:17 Stasik Hello, still problems with last updated date
23:17 Stasik have done the tutorial, but it still wont work
23:18 Denyerec bedlamhotel - just to be clear I am on about the <link rel="next" href="blah.html" /> style tags that appear in the page header
23:19 Stasik constants
23:19 Stasik styles.content.lastUpdate.label = Last update:
23:19 Stasik styles.content.lastUpdate.comment_auto =
23:19 Stasik setup:
23:20 Stasik styles.content.lastUpdate.date >
23:20 Stasik styles.content.lastUpdate.strftime = %e. %B %Y
23:20 Stasik lib.last= CONTENT
23:20 Stasik lib.last < styles.content.lastUpdate
23:20 bedlamhotel Denyrec: yes, of course. But one way or another that's just going to be a list of page urls, right? and that's what TMENU does.
23:20 bedlamhotel Stasik: that is going to be impossible to read. Try phpfi.com
23:21 Denyerec bedlamhotel - yes, providing that they're not <a href...>
23:21 bedlamhotel If you look at the CSS the extension I keep pointing you towards generates, you will see another use for TMENU.
23:21 Denyerec they would need both the REL and the LINK
23:21 bedlamhotel Denyerec: can you receive private messages?
23:21 Denyerec yeah
23:21 Denyerec SOrry I'm being thick
23:21 bedlamhotel That is not a problem at all.
23:21 Denyerec It is for me... I have to live with it :)
23:21 Stasik @bedlamhotel: sorry mabybe in private?
23:21 bedlamhotel *L* It is not a problem to DO...
23:24 Stasik http://phpfi.com/217515
23:25 bedlamhotel Stasik: using CSS Styled Content?
23:32 bedlamhotel Is this thing on?
23:35 Denyerec hehe
23:35 Denyerec I was wondering that when I PM'd you
23:35 bedlamhotel did you not receive my reply?
23:35 Denyerec negatory
23:35 bedlamhotel #$%^#$%@#
23:36 bedlamhotel Denyerec: how about now?
23:36 Denyerec Nope..
23:36 Denyerec I believe youmay need to reg with nickserv again
23:36 bedlamhotel I see a whole conversation there.
23:36 bedlamhotel meaning? (IRC is a newish thing for me...)
23:37 Denyerec did you query me or DCC Chat me ?
23:37 Denyerec IE, double clicked my name
23:37 Stasik <bedlamhotel> yes
23:37 Stasik <bedlamhotel> sorry i was afk
23:37 bedlamhotel denyerec: double clicked the name.
23:38 bedlamhotel stasik: using some static template too called something like 'content default'?
23:38 Stasik i dont think
23:38 Stasik just pure template voila
23:39 Denyerec Mm.
23:39 Denyerec Ar eyou registed with nickserv ?
23:39 Denyerec if you don't know what that is the odds are "no"
23:40 bedlamhotel Denyerec: nope. I can find references to registering, but nowhere can I actually see /how/...
23:41 _aragog_ Good morning every one. I've got a problem which I'm not sure to be right here. I made a Site with T3 and got a problem with CSS-Styled content. I want to create a Site where Head and footer will be on top and bottom of the browserwindow. The dynammmmic content should appear Between top Head and footer if nesacary with scrollbar. And this shoud hapen on each browser and each resolution.
23:41 bedlamhotel denyerec: the point I was going to make--by showing you a site I don't want public yet--was that even something like this can be a TMENU:
23:41 _aragog_ is there anybody who cangive me a hint?
23:42 Denyerec OK I will help you register
23:42 Denyerec aragog
23:42 Denyerec I think your problem is heavily CSS based
23:43 Denyerec so it might be better to ask in a chatroom dedicated to layout, rather than a CMS engine
23:43 Denyerec bedlam type this: /msg NickServ HELP REGISTER
23:43 Denyerec bedlam type this: /msg NickServ HELP REGISTER
23:43 Denyerec And in your IRC client status window, Nickserv will send you some info
23:44 Denyerec Basically you do:
23:44 Denyerec /msg NickServ register <password>
23:44 Denyerec and then when you log in with your name, you can do /msg nickserv identify <password>
23:44 bedlamhotel denyerec: here's the link
23:44 bedlamhotel http://phpfi.com/217526
23:44 Denyerec if you have mIRC, you can set up an alias to do this for you :)
23:47 bedlamhotel Thanks denyerec.
23:50 Stasik nobody can help me?
23:53 Stasik http://phpfi.com/217515
23:54 Stasik i`ll wait ;)

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