| 00:38 |
Ries |
koomi: Downgrade FF :D |
| 00:38 |
Ries |
O have read that quite a few javascript frameworks also have problems with FF's update |
| 00:38 |
Ries |
I think that FF and it's tea starting to do a bad job... |
| 00:42 |
Denyerek |
Bing bong |
| 00:42 |
Denyerek |
walla walla ding dong |
| 00:43 |
Denyerek |
FF should stop thinking about features and work out rendering and security |
| 00:46 |
Ries |
Denyerek: I always was under the impression that features where hidden in it's extensions |
| 00:54 |
Denyerek |
some |
| 00:54 |
Denyerek |
not all |
| 00:54 |
Denyerek |
and the security and stability of that extension platform needs wrk |
| 00:54 |
Denyerek |
work |
| 02:10 |
Denyerec |
no word back about the CSS ries :( |
| 02:11 |
Ries |
Denyerec: what do you mean? |
| 02:11 |
Denyerec |
No response |
| 02:11 |
Denyerec |
So I don't know whether to keep going, or not :) |
| 02:11 |
Denyerec |
an ideaje in dutch, right? :) |
| 02:14 |
Ries |
hahah no not really |
| 02:14 |
Ries |
it's just that I am so freaking buzy..... |
| 02:14 |
Ries |
I just talked to a client/compaion in Nabraska, on which I am making the gallery for |
| 02:15 |
Ries |
later tonight I need to talk to my USA client |
| 02:15 |
Ries |
and tomorrow at 6 I am leaving for a small weekend in Manta witk Karina |
| 02:15 |
Ries |
then at least till sep it's going to be hard work building the websites (total around 25 |
| 02:16 |
flipmoe5000 |
hi |
| 02:16 |
flipmoe5000 |
'slideshow' => $this->getHeaderFile('pages_slideshow'), |
| 02:17 |
flipmoe5000 |
slideshow should get the value out of table pages_slideshow |
| 02:17 |
flipmoe5000 |
how must be the code for that? |
| 02:19 |
Ries |
flipmoe5000: is that an extension you are making? |
| 02:19 |
flipmoe5000 |
yes |
| 02:20 |
flipmoe5000 |
or better i have extended it |
| 02:20 |
flipmoe5000 |
slideshow |
| 02:20 |
Ries |
I don't know that extension, but most developers use the execSELECTquery functions |
| 02:21 |
flipmoe5000 |
can you describe that a little bit |
| 02:21 |
flipmoe5000 |
im not really familiar with php until now |
| 02:21 |
Ries |
flipmoe5000: Not really... it's better explained in the documntation then what I can tell you |
| 02:22 |
Ries |
look into typo3_db |
| 02:22 |
Denyerec |
wow |
| 02:22 |
Denyerec |
25 websites... |
| 02:22 |
flipmoe5000 |
ok |
| 02:22 |
Denyerec |
if I could build 25 sites between now and September, even for the little amounts I seem to be getting at the moment, I'd be a happy man |
| 02:25 |
Ries |
they all share the same features and templates |
| 02:25 |
Ries |
Denyerec: they just have different content |
| 02:25 |
Denyerec |
then I'd *definately* be a happy man :) |
| 02:26 |
Ries |
well... I am not getting paid for it.... But with a little luck it will make a really good ROI |
| 02:30 |
Denyerec |
the gallery sites, or something new ? |
| 02:32 |
Ries |
The gallery sites... |
| 02:32 |
Ries |
But it also contains press releases and other functions... all build into one extension |
| 02:32 |
Ries |
The gallery by itself is stilld esigned for high perfomance |
| 02:33 |
Ries |
(hopefully :) ) |
| 02:33 |
Ries |
be back in 5 |
| 02:39 |
Denyerec |
Well, I'll be back in 6 |
| 02:39 |
Denyerec |
hours, that is. |
| 02:39 |
Denyerec |
Gnight people |
| 02:42 |
Ries |
night |
| 03:00 |
Ries |
Hey Rocketjock |
| 03:07 |
Rocketjock |
hmmm... |
| 04:08 |
uffi |
/nick uschi |
| 04:14 |
Ries |
Hey uschi, shouldn't you be sleeping still? |
| 04:14 |
uschi |
right you are Ries :-) |
| 04:14 |
uschi |
i had a party with my students wednesday night |
| 04:15 |
uschi |
so yesterday i was so tired that i went to bed at 4 in the afternoon |
| 04:17 |
Ries |
uschi so now you need to catch up ;) |
| 04:18 |
uschi |
i cant sleep anymore |
| 04:18 |
uschi |
perhaps in two hours again |
| 04:18 |
uschi |
but for you it should be late now, or not? |
| 04:20 |
bedlamhotel |
Salut, uschi. |
| 04:20 |
uschi |
morning bedlamhotel ;-) |
| 04:21 |
Ries |
uschi it's 11:23... and tomorrow morning at 6 I need to stand at the airport for a small 3 day holliday with my Wife |
| 04:21 |
uschi |
Ries, should not you be on your way to a long weekend in manta? |
| 04:21 |
uschi |
aaah |
| 04:21 |
Ries |
in 6 hours ;) |
| 04:22 |
Ries |
I need to pack and sleep, and send 200Mb of data to my client... |
| 04:22 |
gerards |
Ries so we won't talk until monday? |
| 04:22 |
Ries |
gerards: not really.... |
| 04:22 |
bedlamhotel |
*L* Ries, that makes it sound like your holiday will be 3 days /at the airport/... |
| 04:22 |
gerards |
i was planning to visit tomorrow. I left some stuff at yourplace. |
| 04:23 |
uschi |
just talking to my flatmate. he is still awake, so i wont see him over the day |
| 04:23 |
Ries |
gerards: tania will be here |
| 04:23 |
gerards |
ok. |
| 04:24 |
Ries |
uschi: do you know his name still? |
| 04:24 |
uschi |
gerards' name you mean? |
| 04:24 |
Ries |
gerards: the problem of the flyers is solved... |
| 04:24 |
Ries |
uschi: Your flat-mates name |
| 04:24 |
Ries |
not that he is flat.... |
| 04:24 |
uschi |
yes, his name is rené |
| 04:25 |
Ries |
uschi: I know a cartoon.... ren and stimpy.... |
| 04:25 |
uschi |
well the whole flat here is a cartoon, believe me |
| 04:26 |
uschi |
but i suppose i do not like to be called stimpy :) |
| 04:27 |
Ries |
uschi: actually you don't want to look like him |
| 04:28 |
uschi |
no? so what kind of creature is stimpy? |
| 04:28 |
Ries |
http://www.bdt.com/david/images/rs001.jpg |
| 04:28 |
bedlamhotel |
http://images.google.com/images?q=stimpy&hl=en&safe=off&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&hs=sUG&um=1&sa=X&oi=images&ct=title |
| 04:28 |
Ries |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Ren_and_Stimpy_Show |
| 04:28 |
uschi |
*lol* |
| 04:33 |
uschi |
hm i suppose, yesterday i looked a little bit like ren |
| 04:34 |
bedlamhotel |
Must have been some party. |
| 04:34 |
uschi |
this is why i went to bed |
| 04:34 |
uschi |
right, i had a party with my students the night before |
| 04:34 |
uschi |
but now there are three weeks free of teaching |
| 04:35 |
bedlamhotel |
== 3 weeks of 18 hour days cursing GIFBUILDER ? |
| 04:35 |
uschi |
exactly, bedlamhotel :-) |
| 04:36 |
uschi |
i will have to wait, until pulponaire turns up |
| 04:36 |
uschi |
and i am asking myself how i can learn those graphicsmagick commands |
| 04:36 |
bedlamhotel |
Egads, why? |
| 04:37 |
uschi |
the commands because of the spacing stuff |
| 04:37 |
uschi |
and waiting for pulponair, because he told me, that at times you get better results with ps-fonts |
| 04:37 |
uschi |
he has tools to convert from ttf zu ps |
| 04:38 |
bedlamhotel |
Uschi, a quick search turns up this, so you may be on the right, if fiendishly difficult, track: |
| 04:39 |
bedlamhotel |
...GD ignores the built in Kerning. ImageMagick does not, but |
| 04:39 |
bedlamhotel |
doesn't have native PHP front end support... |
| 04:39 |
uschi |
hm, and GraphicsMagick? |
| 04:40 |
uschi |
you can do programming with php |
| 04:40 |
bedlamhotel |
...GM is a fork of IM I believe. API is supposed to match |
| 04:40 |
uschi |
on the graphickmagick page they reccomend a book there |
| 04:41 |
bedlamhotel |
Sure you can do IM/GM stuff with php, but GD is built right in these days (with specific php functions etc) |
| 04:42 |
uschi |
GD is built in where, bedlamhotel ? |
| 04:42 |
bedlamhotel |
to php. |
| 04:42 |
uschi |
that i know, but could not i use GM? |
| 04:43 |
uschi |
perhaps then the kerning is respected |
| 04:43 |
bedlamhotel |
Yes. I only mean that GD is somewhat easier to use. You may want to find out what TYPO3 uses when rendering text. If it's GM, you may have better luck working around TYPO3 than using it... |
| 04:44 |
bedlamhotel |
GD in php: http://ca.php.net/manual/en/ref.image.php |
| 04:44 |
uschi |
yes, but if GD ignores the kerning, i will have to use GD |
| 04:44 |
bedlamhotel |
GM, right? |
| 04:45 |
uschi |
GM, i mean, sorry |
| 04:45 |
uschi |
there was a thread in the newsgroups about fontstretching |
| 04:46 |
uschi |
and they passed IM-params |
| 04:46 |
bedlamhotel |
Yes, but if T3 is using GD to do text stuff, GM may not be much help unless you work with it directly. |
| 04:46 |
bedlamhotel |
I think I vaguely recall that thread... |
| 04:46 |
bedlamhotel |
Look promising? |
| 04:46 |
uschi |
yes |
| 04:47 |
uschi |
it must be possible to write an extension that uses GM instead of GD for text stuff or not? |
| 04:47 |
uschi |
i am not the one who can write it, but there are people, who can do that |
| 04:47 |
uschi |
in which case i will have to try to find some money |
| 04:48 |
bedlamhotel |
Sure. I think I recall one of the core devs claiming that you could write a TYPO3 extension to make your coffee :) |
| 04:49 |
uschi |
well, this should not be a problem, if, but only if, your coffe machine is able to take such commands |
| 04:49 |
uschi |
my lover is doing such things |
| 04:49 |
bedlamhotel |
Bluetooth coffee-maker? |
| 04:50 |
uschi |
well he is not into the coffee-maker stuff, but we talked about it, and he said it IS possible |
| 04:50 |
flipmoe5000 |
hi |
| 04:50 |
uschi |
no joke, bedlamhotel |
| 04:51 |
uschi |
if you can rule a whole electricity thing (what is english for kraftwerk) through a browser, you can do this with a coffe machine |
| 04:51 |
uschi |
+e |
| 04:52 |
bedlamhotel |
No, I understood. There's only one link in the chain I can't quite follow: typo3/cron -> xmlrpc -> ? -> computer/bluetooth -> coffeemaker/bluetooth |
| 04:52 |
bedlamhotel |
something like that anyway. |
| 04:53 |
bedlamhotel |
It makes me think of weird new directions for TS: |
| 04:53 |
bedlamhotel |
lib.beverage = COFFEE |
| 04:53 |
bedlamhotel |
lib.beverage { |
| 04:53 |
bedlamhotel |
value {} |
| 04:53 |
bedlamhotel |
} |
| 04:53 |
bedlamhotel |
#$%#$%#$ |
| 04:53 |
bedlamhotel |
I can't type. |
| 04:55 |
Ries |
bye |
| 04:55 |
bedlamhotel |
Bon voyage Ries. |
| 05:00 |
uschi |
and off he went, our Ries, may he have fun |
| 05:00 |
uschi |
bedlamhotel, will you be here over the weekend? |
| 05:02 |
bedlamhotel |
uschi: much of Friday, some of Saturday. |
| 05:02 |
uschi |
great |
| 05:03 |
bedlamhotel |
...all in the middle of the night for you I expect. :) |
| 05:03 |
uschi |
no prob |
| 05:04 |
jsfan |
hi :) |
| 05:05 |
flipmoe5000 |
hi |
| 05:05 |
bedlamhotel |
uschi: anticipating problems? |
| 05:05 |
uschi |
yes, second gifbuilder prob |
| 05:05 |
uschi |
the portal title itself :-) |
| 05:05 |
uschi |
multiple lines in some cases |
| 05:06 |
uschi |
fiddling around with $TCA, because i will need to make the headerfield a multiline textfield |
| 05:06 |
bedlamhotel |
Oh my. Seen lots of ML posts, never really tried to actually /do/ it though :-S |
| 05:06 |
uschi |
there is an example in the typo3 cookbook |
| 05:11 |
bedlamhotel |
TCA shouldn't be too bad, and splitting the header I think I get in principle, but I have learned not to underestimate Typoscript's ability to make me feel /outrageously/ stupid... |
| 05:11 |
jsfan |
hi flipmoe5000 |
| 05:11 |
flipmoe5000 |
hi |
| 05:12 |
flipmoe5000 |
are you familiar with extension development? |
| 05:12 |
bedlamhotel |
In any case, I'm going to sleep because I don't want to look like either Ren OR Stimpy... |
| 05:12 |
jsfan |
flipmoe5000, to a certain extent, yes. |
| 05:13 |
bedlamhotel |
Au revoir typo3nistas. |
| 05:13 |
flipmoe5000 |
i have extended the page table |
| 05:14 |
d|g |
hi all |
| 05:14 |
flipmoe5000 |
how can i get the value from that table in my php? |
| 05:14 |
jsfan |
hi d|g |
| 05:14 |
flipmoe5000 |
hi |
| 05:14 |
d|g |
jsfan hi =) |
| 05:14 |
jsfan |
flipmoe5000, have you had a look at the extension api? |
| 05:14 |
flipmoe5000 |
not really |
| 05:14 |
flipmoe5000 |
i have read some docs from the wiki |
| 05:15 |
flipmoe5000 |
can you take a look at it perhaps? |
| 05:15 |
jsfan |
flipmoe5000, i'd advice you to install the extension extdeveval and have a look at pibase there at least. |
| 05:15 |
flipmoe5000 |
i will post the code |
| 05:15 |
jsfan |
flipmoe5000, it's important that you understand the API at least a bit so that you can use the DBAL |
| 05:16 |
jsfan |
post the code. i'll have a look. |
| 05:16 |
flipmoe5000 |
ok |
| 05:18 |
flipmoe5000 |
http://phpfi.com/218531 |
| 05:18 |
flipmoe5000 |
i have marked the relevant lines with some question marks |
| 05:21 |
jsfan |
flipmoe5000, what exactly are you trying to read from the TCA? |
| 05:22 |
flipmoe5000 |
one moment |
| 05:22 |
flipmoe5000 |
records saved in a sys folder |
| 05:23 |
flipmoe5000 |
you can create slideshows there |
| 05:24 |
jsfan |
so what are you trying to obtain from the TCA? the actual record? |
| 05:25 |
jsfan |
flipmoe5000_, so what are you trying to obtain from the TCA? the actual record? |
| 05:26 |
flipmoe5000_ |
yes |
| 05:26 |
flipmoe5000_ |
i have set up the field in page properties |
| 05:26 |
jsfan |
flipmoe5000_, the record is not in the tca. the tca describes only the table and its fields but it does not store the data. |
| 05:26 |
jsfan |
you have to query the database to get your records. |
| 05:27 |
flipmoe5000_ |
normally you create an conten object on that page with that plugin |
| 05:27 |
flipmoe5000_ |
ok |
| 05:27 |
flipmoe5000_ |
how can i do that? |
| 05:27 |
flipmoe5000_ |
im not really familiar with php until now |
| 05:27 |
jsfan |
if this is a field in the page table, there will be only one value per page. is that what you want? |
| 05:27 |
flipmoe5000_ |
yes thats ok |
| 05:28 |
jsfan |
ok, then you have to query the page table. the best would probably be the function pi_getRecords from the class pibase |
| 05:29 |
flipmoe5000_ |
ok |
| 05:29 |
flipmoe5000_ |
can you paste an example please? |
| 05:30 |
flipmoe5000_ |
and can the flexform variable get this value finally? |
| 05:30 |
jsfan |
the query would then look something like $row = $this->pi_getRecord('pages',$GLOBALS['TSFE']->id,1); |
| 05:30 |
jsfan |
then you get an array $row with all your fields in it. |
| 05:31 |
jsfan |
from there you can then address your new fields as $row['tx_<name of extension without any _>_<fieldname>] |
| 05:31 |
flipmoe5000_ |
ok |
| 05:31 |
flipmoe5000_ |
whats the 1? |
| 05:33 |
jsfan |
http://phpfi.com/218532 |
| 05:33 |
jsfan |
the 1 is checkRecord. if you set this to zero, even pages could be accessed that the user is not allowed to access at all. |
| 05:34 |
jsfan |
it shouldn't really matter because you use the id of the current page, anyway. |
| 05:34 |
flipmoe5000_ |
ah ok |
| 05:34 |
flipmoe5000_ |
jep |
| 05:34 |
jsfan |
try extdeveval. it's very helpful. |
| 05:34 |
flipmoe5000_ |
yes i will |
| 05:35 |
flipmoe5000_ |
and how can i add the $row to that line |
| 05:35 |
flipmoe5000_ |
'slideshow' => sFlash:slideshow, |
| 05:35 |
jsfan |
do you want to prefill your flexforms with data from the db? or what is it you're trying to do in flexforms? |
| 05:35 |
flipmoe5000_ |
nothing |
| 05:35 |
flipmoe5000_ |
that is in the basic extension |
| 05:36 |
flipmoe5000_ |
i dont want to creat everytime an content element |
| 05:36 |
jsfan |
flexforms are for the BE. it's the forms the editor sees. |
| 05:36 |
flipmoe5000_ |
better to add the file in the page properties |
| 05:36 |
jsfan |
you're creating a plugin. this will have to be included as a content element. |
| 05:36 |
flipmoe5000_ |
yes |
| 05:37 |
flipmoe5000_ |
how about this? |
| 05:37 |
flipmoe5000_ |
'slideshow' |
| 05:37 |
flipmoe5000_ |
'slideshow' => $row ... ? |
| 05:37 |
jsfan |
btw, i think that what you're trying to do can be done by using existing extensions, anyway. |
| 05:38 |
flipmoe5000_ |
yes probably |
| 05:38 |
jsfan |
is it something similar to this? http://www.abt.com.au/index.php?id=4 |
| 05:38 |
jsfan |
(left bottom is a flash) |
| 05:38 |
jsfan |
maybe this is better: http://www.abt.com.au/index.php?id=5 |
| 05:39 |
jsfan |
i used rb_flashobject for that. |
| 05:40 |
flipmoe5000_ |
one moment |
| 05:40 |
jsfan |
i still don't understand what you want to do with the flexforms |
| 05:40 |
flipmoe5000_ |
i have to reconnect |
| 05:40 |
flipmoe5000_ |
then i will give you the url |
| 05:40 |
flipmoe5000_ |
3 sec. |
| 05:42 |
flipmoe5000_ |
hmm |
| 06:50 |
uschi |
hey, morning tobi |
| 06:50 |
tobi |
good morning uschi |
| 06:50 |
uschi |
(_)> coffee for you, tobi |
| 06:51 |
tobi |
thank you ;) |
| 06:51 |
d|g |
tobi, hi =) plz, repeat url to ff 2.0.0.3 html area bugfix ;) |
| 06:54 |
Jigal |
hi all @ #typo3 |
| 06:54 |
tobi |
it was on http://bugs.typo3.org/view.php?id=5266 d|g |
| 06:54 |
d|g |
big thanks |
| 07:00 |
MarwolTuk |
good morning |
| 07:03 |
flipmoe5000 |
morning |
| 07:22 |
just2b |
good morning |
| 07:23 |
zatmania |
hi all |
| 07:23 |
Jigal |
hi TomWork, d|g, MarwolTuk, helli_t3w, flipmoe5000, Fanty, just2b, zatmania |
| 07:23 |
just2b |
hi zatmania |
| 07:24 |
just2b |
hi higal |
| 07:24 |
helli_t3w |
morning Jigal |
| 07:24 |
Fanty |
morning |
| 07:32 |
zatmania |
hi just2b, Fanty, helli_t3w, Jigal & others :) |
| 07:35 |
helli_t3w |
morning |
| 07:35 |
just2b |
jigal, zatmania > googlemap with tt_news > http://www.rggooglemap.com/index.php?id=49&no_cache=1&tx_rggooglemap_pi1[poi]=2&tx_rggooglemap_pi1[table]=tt_news ;) |
| 07:39 |
zatmania |
need to go right now :) |
| 07:39 |
just2b |
too bad ;) |
| 07:40 |
zatmania |
beautiful green ;) |
| 07:40 |
just2b |
;) default css of tt_news |
| 07:41 |
zatmania |
yes i know |
| 07:41 |
zatmania |
i'm joking |
| 07:42 |
just2b |
just wanted to show that I didn't change anyting on tt_news, .. only 3 markers in the template |
| 07:43 |
zatmania |
lool |
| 07:43 |
just2b |
jigal, that is my plan |
| 07:44 |
just2b |
it should work now with nearlly any extension which has got a hook |
| 07:44 |
zatmania |
you forget rggoolemap at town, at swimmming-pool ... :) |
| 07:45 |
Jigal |
just2b: can there be a different marker or can the marker be scaled for each location? |
| 07:46 |
just2b |
you mean icon? |
| 07:47 |
Jigal |
just2b: yes, I thought about rggooglemap showing stats per country by displaying a bar (graph) with the height of the bar representing the value of that country :-) |
| 07:48 |
just2b |
hmm different icons only for differnet categories |
| 07:48 |
Jigal |
just2b: how many categories possible? |
| 07:49 |
just2b |
there is no restriction |
| 07:54 |
Jigal |
just2b: do you have details for that hook? |
| 07:54 |
just2b |
how it has to look like? |
| 07:54 |
just2b |
http://phpfi.com/218543 |
| 07:55 |
Jigal |
just2b: do I need to add this to my extension? |
| 07:55 |
just2b |
yes |
| 07:56 |
just2b |
your marker array should have the same name, otherwise rename it |
| 07:56 |
Jigal |
eeeehhmmm, it says ['th_mailformplus'], or is this the example from th_mailformplus ? |
| 07:57 |
just2b |
this function can be called by another extension modifiing (changing, adding) e.g. markers |
| 07:57 |
just2b |
example of mailformplus |
| 07:57 |
just2b |
you won't see it in the TER version of mailformplus because I added the hook myself |
| 07:57 |
just2b |
another example wouzld be in ve_guestbook |
| 08:00 |
Jigal |
I just realize that I want to use it in a BE extension which generates the HTML it shows in the backend... I guess I could just use the googlemaps API directly, or is rggooglemap still useful to insert the map image in an HTML page? |
| 08:01 |
just2b |
i guess the api is there the faster way |
| 08:01 |
just2b |
but i don't know your be ext |
| 08:03 |
Jigal |
it's a modified and extended version of alternet_csa_in/out (csa= click stream analyzer); one page show page views/visitors per country, but the standard graph on that page is just a line graph. I thought it would be nice to show a (google)map with bars representing the views/visitors... |
| 08:05 |
just2b |
hmm sounds not too easy |
| 08:06 |
dax77 |
moin moin |
| 08:06 |
just2b |
moin dax |
| 08:06 |
just2b |
moin already an english expression... nevertheless I prefer a "moagn" ;)))) |
| 08:07 |
dax77 |
hehe |
| 08:07 |
Jigal |
just2b: should things be easy? You said a different icon can be used per category; I could make a series of icons each for a range of values and use the appropriate category for each marker! |
| 08:08 |
Jigal |
hi bauschan, dax77 |
| 08:08 |
just2b |
jigal if you take my extension but i guess it would be better to build a own thing... so of course you can take another icon for every POI |
| 08:08 |
bauschan |
moin @all |
| 08:09 |
dax77 |
hi bauschan |
| 08:36 |
zatmania |
hi dax77 |
| 08:36 |
zatmania |
hi bauschan |
| 09:00 |
bauschan |
http://youtube.com/watch?v=6h3G-lMZxjo |
| 09:00 |
max_muetze |
g'mornin |
| 09:00 |
bauschan |
for the apple geeks ;) |
| 09:01 |
bauschan |
http://news.wired.com/dynamic/stories/T/TECHBIT_APPLE_AD_POLITICS?SITE=WIRE&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT |
| 09:01 |
max_muetze |
does somebody knows an extension for displaying a rss-news-feed on the website? |
| 09:01 |
bauschan |
for the story behind |
| 09:07 |
max_muetze |
so, i want to display my rss-feed (from coppermine gallery) on the right of my website... there must be a possibility, i use it with joomla at the moment... |
| 09:07 |
max_muetze |
anyone here who knows sth about? |
| 09:07 |
just2b |
there are several extensions to include a ress feed |
| 09:09 |
max_muetze |
on typo3.org i only found several rss-creators |
| 09:09 |
max_muetze |
can you tell one of them? |
| 09:12 |
max_muetze |
please |
| 09:13 |
just2b |
i once used tw_rssfeeds |
| 09:22 |
max_muetze |
hm, okay, thanks... it works a little... |
| 09:24 |
pulponair |
hi there |
| 09:24 |
pulponair |
anyone running t3 4.1 in common with some userInt plugins? |
| 09:26 |
thone |
hi, im using TYPO3 Ver. 3.7.0, i would like zu add a script-content-element, there is noch script-value in the dropedownmenu |
| 09:26 |
thone |
do i need a extension? |
| 09:27 |
pulponair |
thone: you should consider updating your t3 installation |
| 09:27 |
pulponair |
thone: 3.7.0 is heavily outdated ;) |
| 09:27 |
just2b |
pulponair: troubles with chash? |
| 09:28 |
mikhas |
probably the wrong place to ask, but since php seems flooded, anyone know, on a typical debian installation (or similar) with LAMP, where to put php_value so they are interpreted by apache2? I've added some lines in httpd.conf but they are not accepted, from what I can tell. |
| 09:28 |
just2b |
it is the wrong place |
| 09:29 |
pulponair |
just2b: http://bugs.typo3.org/view.php?id=5282 |
| 09:29 |
thone |
the people im working for do not like to update :( |
| 09:29 |
pulponair |
just2b: for a live sample see www.chaosbutzel.de hit the home menu item several times |
| 09:29 |
mikhas |
just2b: aimed at me or someone else? :) |
| 09:29 |
pulponair |
just2b: sorry: www.chaosbutze.de |
| 09:30 |
pulponair |
mikhas: OT but add it to your vhosts |
| 09:30 |
Jigal |
mikhas: isn't it php_admin_value in httpd.conf? |
| 09:31 |
pulponair |
Jigal: : depends on the context |
| 09:31 |
mikhas |
Jigal: my httpd.conf is empty from scratch. |
| 09:31 |
pulponair |
jigal:global/local |
| 09:31 |
mikhas |
pulponair: thanks, I'll give it a go. |
| 09:32 |
pulponair |
mikhas: if you are using debian there should be a file named default-site or similiar |
| 09:32 |
just2b |
ahh duplicate entry? ;) |
| 09:32 |
pulponair |
Jigal: yes |
| 09:32 |
pulponair |
just2b: yes |
| 09:32 |
just2b |
this isn't a problem of 4.1. got it also at 4.0.3 |
| 09:32 |
pulponair |
just2b: yes it seems to be related to user_int obj |
| 09:32 |
pulponair |
just2b: : are you aware of any workarounds? |
| 09:33 |
just2b |
don't use sqldebug? |
| 09:33 |
pulponair |
just2b: it occurs as soon as i place a user_int obj somewhere on the page |
| 09:33 |
pulponair |
just2b: ;) ok |
| 09:34 |
pulponair |
just2b: according to the bugtracker it should have been fixed in 4.1 |
| 09:34 |
just2b |
if i get it with 4.0.3. i believe it is not a real core issue? |
| 09:34 |
mikhas |
pulponair: yeah, there is ,but as I use vhosts.conf, I might as well add it there? |
| 09:35 |
just2b |
it is also not realurl related because i get it in a part of pagetree with not using it |
| 09:35 |
pulponair |
just2b: i get it in 4.1 and 4.0.3 |
| 09:35 |
thone |
what do i need to add a (php)script-content-element, when in the menu is no script-content-element. |
| 09:35 |
pulponair |
just2b: even on a fresh installation without any plugins like realurl |
| 09:36 |
thone |
is it an ext what i need? how called? |
| 09:36 |
pulponair |
thone:i dont even understand what you are talking about :) |
| 09:37 |
just2b |
pulponair: so what do we do? |
| 09:38 |
thone |
i would like to add a content element of type script to place there a phpscript |
| 09:38 |
nevwork |
hi guys, got a weird thing, im looking at a typo3 configuration of a web that has been made by other peeps, and they somehow managed to get their own template into static templates section and bound it in that way |
| 09:38 |
nevwork |
anyone got an idea how or a place where i might read that up? |
| 09:39 |
thone |
but in the drope down menu with the typs of content to add, is no scriptvalue |
| 09:40 |
nevwork |
thone, try "html" content element |
| 09:41 |
pulponair |
just2b: :i dont know ... |
| 09:41 |
nevwork |
and place your script in there |
| 09:43 |
pulponair |
nevwork: yeah ...put it into an extension add addstatic to your localconf and there you are |
| 09:43 |
max_muetze |
when i use tw_rssfeeds (or kik rss feeds - same error) i get this error: http://phpfi.com/218567 - i don't have access to php.ini or shell.. is there a way to clean this? |
| 09:43 |
nevwork |
ahh, ok, ill look if they did it that way |
| 09:44 |
pulponair |
nevwork: also check exttables....for addstatic |
| 09:44 |
nevwork |
max_muetze try to set a php_value for it in your .htaccess file |
| 09:44 |
nevwork |
you may edit that one through "quick explorer" extension from the backend |
| 09:44 |
nevwork |
or via ftp;) |
| 09:45 |
max_muetze |
ah, thanks, and to what? what code should i edit or add? |
| 09:45 |
nevwork |
the one provided by your error message |
| 09:45 |
pulponair |
max_muetze: dont forget to informe the extension author about this issue (php5 incompatibility) |
| 09:48 |
max_muetze |
pulponair: i will do this |
| 09:48 |
max_muetze |
nevwork: i am not very familar with this... |
| 09:49 |
max_muetze |
can you provide a source to learn to change this? |
| 09:49 |
nevwork |
of course |
| 09:50 |
nevwork |
http://us3.php.net/configuration.changes |
| 09:54 |
max_muetze |
nevwork: thanks a lot, so i only have to add/edit the following line: "php_value allow_call_time_pass_reference 1", right? |
| 09:54 |
pulponair |
$TYPO3_CONF_VARS['FE']['pageNotFound_handling']='/404.html'; is it possible to set this domain wise? |
| 09:54 |
nevwork |
yes, max, thats right |
| 09:55 |
max_muetze |
thank you |
| 09:55 |
nevwork |
pulp, lemme lookup tsref |
| 09:56 |
nevwork |
pulp, you could use htaccess for that |
| 09:56 |
max_muetze |
nework: great, it works! :-) |
| 09:56 |
nevwork |
theres an error doc directive with apache |
| 09:56 |
nevwork |
i tend to set errordocs per vhost, that link ppls back to mainpage in case of errors |
| 09:57 |
bauschan |
anybody has a sec to confirm a render bug on ext manuals? |
| 09:57 |
bauschan |
http://typo3.org/documentation/document-library/extension-manuals/irre_tutorial/0.1.5/view/toc/0/ |
| 09:57 |
bauschan |
table of contents is ok |
| 09:57 |
bauschan |
but subsections aren't reachable |
| 09:57 |
bauschan |
can anybody confirm this? |
| 09:58 |
bauschan |
funny note, yesterday it worked fine :( |
| 09:58 |
just2b |
i can confirm |
| 09:59 |
bauschan |
thx, I'll sent a report |
| 09:59 |
nevwork |
bauschan, before that, try to upgrade it from the ter |
| 09:59 |
nevwork |
that sometimes works for me |
| 09:59 |
nevwork |
;) |
| 10:00 |
uschi |
hi pulponaire :-) do you have a second or two for me? |
| 10:00 |
bauschan |
nevwork: ? it's the online version we're talking about |
| 10:01 |
nevwork |
ahh, ok, so its already the newest |
| 10:01 |
bauschan |
should be ;) |
| 10:02 |
nevwork |
ive seen a certain effect with typo3 packages, src usually comes not with the up to date versions of certain ext |
| 10:03 |
mikhas |
hmm, strange, php_value still won't bite, thought it's added in virtualhost. :-P |
| 10:04 |
pulponair |
mikhas: try php_admin_value |
| 10:04 |
pulponair |
or was it php_value_admin ? |
| 10:04 |
pulponair |
i do not remember |
| 10:11 |
mikhas |
pulponair: thanks for the suggestions. Tried that now, didn't help, tried configuring allowoverride all, still don't work. I'll try some more things |
| 10:11 |
pulponair |
mikhas: just adjust your php.ini |
| 10:12 |
Jigal |
pulponair: it's php_admin_value ;-) |
| 10:14 |
Jigal |
mikhas: what's you current virtualhost definition? |
| 10:14 |
Jigal |
s/you/your/ |
| 10:16 |
mikhas |
Jigal: something like: <Directory /Users/<removed>/site> Options FollowSymLinks AllowOverride All php_value upload_progress_tracking.store_method "file" php_value upload_progress_tracking.file 1 php_value upload_progress_tracking.file.filename_template "./tmp/upload/upl_%s.txt" </Directory> |
| 10:17 |
mikhas |
this is after the common things like servername, errorlog, customlog etc.. |
| 10:18 |
max_muetze |
does somebody knows how to display images with tw_rssfeeds? i only get the titlelinks w/o images... |
| 10:19 |
nevwork |
i dont think thats yet implemented, you might implement it though |
| 10:20 |
nevwork |
right in the class file |
| 10:20 |
nevwork |
or modify the parser |
| 10:20 |
max_muetze |
really :-( |
| 10:20 |
max_muetze |
unfortunately i am not a programmer... |
| 10:21 |
nevwork |
im using the xml import extension for that stuff, and that has not implemted the images either |
| 10:21 |
nevwork |
hehehe, with typo3 youll be one soon;) |
| 10:21 |
max_muetze |
i think so... |
| 10:23 |
Jigal |
mikhas: you can set the php_admin_value blablabla after the common things (outside the <Directory .... stuff |
| 10:23 |
max_muetze |
nevwork: i think it should work - i found this link: http://www.keyboard-junkie.de/sinfest.html |
| 10:23 |
nevwork |
really, nice |
| 10:24 |
nevwork |
hehehe, that doesnt look right in ffox, btw, maybe he has modified it... |
| 10:25 |
max_muetze |
yes in ie it looks terrible but it shows images... |
| 10:27 |
nevwork |
id have to have a look at the ext actually to tell exactly |
| 10:27 |
nevwork |
in case, look if there are markers for the images |
| 10:27 |
nevwork |
inside the ext template |
| 10:28 |
max_muetze |
uh, where do i have to look for that? i use typo3 since yesterday... ;-) |
| 10:29 |
max_muetze |
i am in templaye/template storage, right so far? |
| 10:29 |
mikhas |
Jigal: tried that too. hmm, I think I'm giving up on this now and give it another go when I've thought about it a little. Thanks for all the help though. |
| 10:30 |
nevwork |
look inside typo3conf/ext/tw_rssfeed |
| 10:30 |
nevwork |
check the files there |
| 10:30 |
max_muetze |
ah, ok |
| 10:30 |
nevwork |
also have a look inside the pi1/class.... file |
| 10:30 |
max_muetze |
okay, and how do i identify the markers? with ######marker###### ? |
| 10:31 |
nevwork |
either that way, or by their php obj |
| 10:33 |
max_muetze |
and that is? $image? i don't know much about php, too.. :-/ |
| 10:33 |
nevwork |
$image is a var |
| 10:34 |
nevwork |
variable |
| 10:34 |
nevwork |
that holds some information id say, and from the name it holds the image |
| 10:34 |
max_muetze |
ah, ok |
| 10:34 |
nevwork |
try echo $image or print $image in your return $content |
| 10:34 |
nevwork |
to see whats inside of it |
| 10:35 |
nevwork |
or for more elegance, return $content.$image |
| 10:35 |
max_muetze |
ok, i haven't found it yet.. |
| 10:36 |
nevwork |
take your time, learning programming or bugfixing php isnt a half-hour thing |
| 10:37 |
max_muetze |
yes, i believe.. but i don't want to become a php-crack just for setting up a typo3... i used joomla until now and just want to give typo3 a try... |
| 10:38 |
nevwork |
typo3 =! joomla |
| 10:39 |
nevwork |
there are differences man, and if you want to go for more extended functs within typo3, youll have to know some php, dont need to become a total php hacker for it though |
| 10:40 |
max_muetze |
yes, i hoped so... it is very interesting so i'll look how far i come.. |
| 10:40 |
nevwork |
btw, a real php "crack" would write his own cms;) |
| 10:41 |
max_muetze |
;-) hehe |
| 10:54 |
sviftrup |
Hi all. Any of you familiar with the CSV User Import extension? When importing fe_users using this extension, it demands a module called FE_USERS to be present on the page where the users should be saved. I cant seem to find any module of this name. Any of you who has a wild guess what module im searching for? |
| 10:55 |
pulponair |
hey guys who of you was the font expert again? |
| 11:24 |
eeos |
hi everybody! |
| 11:25 |
eeos |
hi just2b |
| 11:34 |
thone |
hi, is the ext Page-PHP-Content still available, i do not find it under extentions to install? |
| 11:35 |
Denyerec |
lo everyone |
| 11:36 |
eeos |
Denyerec hi |
| 11:38 |
thone |
is this extention, Page-PHP-Conten, in your typoinstall available? |
| 11:39 |
eeos |
thone what is this extension for? |
| 11:40 |
eeos |
thone I do not see it in TER |
| 11:41 |
eeos |
thone are you sure it is the right name? |
| 11:41 |
thone |
think so, to add phpscripts as contentelements |
| 11:43 |
eeos |
thone I canot find it, I am sorry |
| 11:43 |
thone |
maybe the extention is outdated, is there an other way to add phpscript as content elements |
| 11:44 |
Denyerec |
yes |
| 11:44 |
Denyerec |
thre is |
| 11:44 |
Denyerec |
can't remember its name tho so gimme a mo |
| 11:44 |
thone |
denyerec: also an extention ? |
| 11:45 |
Denyerec |
yes |
| 11:45 |
eeos |
Denyerec I mena I cannot find it under that name |
| 11:45 |
Denyerec |
I am certain of it |
| 11:45 |
eeos |
Denyerec do you know the new name? |
| 11:45 |
Denyerec |
can't remember its name tho so gimme a mo |
| 11:46 |
eeos |
Denyerec all the time you need |
| 11:46 |
Denyerec |
lumophpinclude |
| 11:47 |
thone |
im just wondering, there is still a doc for page_php_content |
| 11:47 |
eeos |
a customer submitted an interesting request for a multilanguage website |
| 11:47 |
thone |
http://typo3.org/documentation/document-library/extension-manuals/page_php_content/1.0.1/view/toc/0/ |
| 11:47 |
eeos |
he wants two languages |
| 11:48 |
eeos |
on the front page, there should be 2 simmetric menus one in one lanague the other in the other language |
| 11:48 |
eeos |
is that possible? |
| 11:48 |
eeos |
thone http://typo3.org/extensions/repository/view/lumophpinclude/1.1.1/ |
| 11:48 |
eeos |
Denyerec what do you think? |
| 11:49 |
Denyerec |
I think that's the one I was on about |
| 11:49 |
Denyerec |
never used it, though |
| 11:50 |
eeos |
Denyerec :D no I meant about the multilanguage website :) |
| 11:52 |
Denyerec |
Oh |
| 11:52 |
Denyerec |
Hmm |
| 11:52 |
Denyerec |
Well |
| 11:53 |
Denyerec |
You can use the LLL parameter to say in a conditional "If you are in language X, do this..." |
| 11:53 |
Denyerec |
so i would say try and build a 2nd HEMU after manually setting the language parameter |
| 11:54 |
eeos |
Denyerec but the problem is i the tree structure, I think |
| 11:55 |
Denyerec |
as I see it, the data is in there |
| 11:55 |
Denyerec |
you only need to get it out! |
| 11:55 |
Denyerec |
The trick is... how. |
| 11:56 |
Denyerec |
voidus will know :) |
| 11:57 |
eeos |
hi voidus |
| 11:57 |
voidus |
hi all :) |
| 12:01 |
eeos |
voidus can I pose you a question? |
| 12:01 |
voidus |
yes |
| 12:02 |
eeos |
a customer submitted an interesting request for a multilanguage website. he wants two languages. on the front page, there should be 2 simmetric menus one in one lanague the other in the other language. is that possible? |
| 12:02 |
tobi |
i think thats only possible by using the 2 tress aproach |
| 12:03 |
eeos |
of course, the menu should be generated automatically, so when the customer adds a page in language A, the page goes to the appropriate menu, when they add a page in language B it goes to the tother menu. |
| 12:03 |
tobi |
or by writing a custom userfunc for the menu thats not in the default language |
| 12:03 |
eeos |
what do you think voidus? |
| 12:03 |
eeos |
sorry, tobi? |
| 12:03 |
tobi |
you have 2 aproaches how to do multilanguage pages |
| 12:03 |
eeos |
tobi do you mean writing the whole thing in a default language |
| 12:03 |
tobi |
with the one tree concept this will not work out of the box |
| 12:04 |
eeos |
tobi and all page that are not in default lanague are automatically assigned to the other menu? |
| 12:04 |
tobi |
when i access the english page the russian menu has to be created with a userfunc because you cant assign a language to a menu |
| 12:04 |
eeos |
tobi we would rather go for 2 tress because we have different behaviours |
| 12:04 |
tobi |
with 2 trees its no problem |
| 12:04 |
eeos |
tobi bu what about the 2 symmetric menu on the front page? |
| 12:05 |
eeos |
tobi, then when they chose oe of the 2 menus, everything is only in one lanaguage. |
| 12:05 |
tobi |
no problem to do |
| 12:05 |
tobi |
yes |
| 12:06 |
eeos |
tobi maybe is not a probelm for you, oh guru, but it is a problem for meeeeeeeee! |
| 12:07 |
eeos |
tobi I cannot figure out how to populate the two menus symmetrically |
| 12:08 |
tobi |
just use a special directory eeos |
| 12:08 |
eeos |
tobi because I would have 2 trees, one in language A the other in language B. |
| 12:08 |
eeos |
tobi in which way? |
| 12:09 |
eeos |
tobi I do not understand |
| 12:09 |
tobi |
to show the menu of the other language just use a special=directory with special.value pointing to the tree of the 2nd language |
| 12:11 |
eeos |
can you avoid showing the top of the tree then? becaue you cannot put the home page on top of the tree. You have the home page, with the 2 symmetrical menus, then the two other "home pages" for the two trees |
| 12:11 |
tobi |
yes |
| 12:12 |
eeos |
tobi how? :( |
| 12:14 |
eeos |
tobi I really do not get it |
| 12:14 |
tobi |
read the documentation about special directory, it takes care of that for you eeos ... |
| 12:14 |
tobi |
try it out and it will be clearer for you |
| 12:17 |
eeos |
tobi thanks, could you please point me to the documentation? is it tsref? |
| 12:17 |
tobi |
yes it is in tsref |
| 12:18 |
eeos |
tobi thanks |
| 12:19 |
tobi |
no problem |
| 12:21 |
tobi |
some css guru here? i tried to implement http://host.sonspring.com/hoverbox/ for typo3 .. everything ok, only IE does "keep" the hover state in my version: http://www.typo3wizard.com/index.php?id=234 |
| 12:23 |
eeos |
tobi testing with ie 6 |
| 12:25 |
eeos |
tobi tobi it is working on my IE 6.0. what is the problem exactly? |
| 12:25 |
tobi |
hm that gallery should show the big picture on hover ... in my IE the bigger picture does not go away on mouse out |
| 12:27 |
eeos |
tobi they do on mine |
| 12:27 |
eeos |
tobi it works exactly as on konqueror |
| 12:28 |
eeos |
tobi MS IE version you are using? |
| 12:28 |
eeos |
tobi let me try with ie 7 and ie 5.5 |
| 12:28 |
Jigal |
tobi: in the <!--[if IE]>in your version... part the display property is set to block in .csc-textpic a:hover, but not set to none in .csc-textpic a (just above) have to check the original css files to see what the sonspring version contains... |
| 12:29 |
eeos |
tobi it works also on 5.5 and on 7.0 on my computer |
| 12:29 |
eeos |
tobi what version are you using? |
| 12:29 |
tobi |
i am using 6.0.29 |
| 12:30 |
Jigal |
on 6.0.2900.2180.xpsp_sp2_gdr.061219-0316 it doesn't work correctly... |
| 12:30 |
tobi |
i have the same version as you Jigal |
| 12:31 |
tobi |
Jigal, i modified the if IE part from here http://host.sonspring.com/hoverbox/css/ie_fixes.css .. |
| 12:32 |
tobi |
is there some major difference between dl and ul ? |
| 12:32 |
eeos |
tobi 6.0.2800.1106 here |
| 12:32 |
Jigal |
yep, different html elements |
| 12:33 |
tobi |
i dont get why this css does not work with my html -.- |
| 12:33 |
eeos |
tobi could you please phpfi.com the css |
| 12:34 |
Jigal |
tobi: why use dl and not ul?? |
| 12:34 |
just2b |
anyone works at t3one? |
| 12:35 |
tobi |
thats the css eeos http://phpfi.com/218603 |
| 12:36 |
eeos |
just2b what is t3one |
| 12:36 |
tobi |
becuase i tried it with the typo3 default config, to use it out of the box without changing the rendering |
| 12:36 |
just2b |
eeos, visit it |
| 12:36 |
eeos |
just2b how? |
| 12:37 |
eeos |
tobi I am trying to undestand |
| 12:37 |
just2b |
t3one.com |
| 12:41 |
eeos |
just2b interesting |
| 12:42 |
eeos |
tobi can you try to remove the if section and see how it behaves? |
| 12:43 |
max_muetze |
do you think it is lightly possible to fit a joomla-module for acting as a typo3-extension? i mean - both is php... |
| 12:43 |
Denyerec |
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/bigphotos/images/060411_rabbit_big.jpg |
| 12:43 |
Denyerec |
depends what the joomla module does |
| 12:43 |
Denyerec |
there may be a typo one aready |
| 12:44 |
voidus |
max_muetze: no. typo3 extension are written with some rules.. |
| 12:44 |
tobi |
without the if it does not hover at all in IE eeos |
| 12:44 |
max_muetze |
i think of the module fetch_rss - i use it in my joomla for displaying my coppermine-rss-feed with images |
| 12:44 |
eeos |
tobi are you sure it is not a bug with ie? |
| 12:45 |
voidus |
max_muetze: you can use typo3 extension news_feeder |
| 12:45 |
tobi |
eeos it is not a ie bug, on the original page it works in ie but i cant figure out what i made wrong to make it not work in IE .. |
| 12:46 |
eeos |
tobi do you have the origial page? |
| 12:46 |
eeos |
tobi why did you remove z-inde from the ie sectio? |
| 12:46 |
eeos |
tobi why did you remove z-index from the IE section? |
| 12:47 |
tobi |
original is here eeos http://host.sonspring.com/hoverbox/ |
| 12:47 |
tobi |
hm i left the z-index, it is still in there |
| 12:48 |
eeos |
tobi not in the css you sent me |
| 12:48 |
eeos |
tobi ah! tht is the original! I thought this was your page! :( |
| 12:48 |
eeos |
tobi that is the page I tested! |
| 12:48 |
tobi |
yes .. my page is http://www.typo3wizard.com/index.php?id=234# |
| 12:50 |
eeos |
tobi the css you sent me does not have the z-index |
| 12:51 |
eeos |
tobi could you please add it? |
| 12:51 |
tobi |
where? there is a z-index on .csc-textpic a:hover |
| 12:52 |
eeos |
tobi because you redefine a:hover. but z-index should be in the last one really. |
| 12:52 |
eeos |
.csc-textpic a:hover .preview |
| 12:52 |
eeos |
{ |
| 12:52 |
eeos |
top: -38px; |
| 12:52 |
eeos |
left: -50px; |
| 12:52 |
eeos |
} |
| 12:53 |
eeos |
I think you should add it here. |
| 12:53 |
tobi |
hm i dont redefine it, i extend it ( cascading style sheed) .. i dont think adding z-index 2 times makes a difference bu ill try |
| 12:53 |
tobi |
same thing |
| 12:53 |
eeos |
tobi that is in theroy, but in practice browsers do implement a correct version of cascading |
| 12:54 |
tobi |
it does not make a difference adding the z-index |
| 12:55 |
eeos |
tobi also why do you use dl? |
| 12:55 |
tobi |
because typo3 creates the dl for me |
| 12:55 |
tobi |
switching to ul leads to the same result btw |
| 12:56 |
Denyerec |
in Typo3 the site title always outputs with a : on the end |
| 12:56 |
Denyerec |
where would I look to change that ? |
| 12:56 |
Denyerec |
oooh ooh |
| 12:56 |
Denyerec |
tobi |
| 12:56 |
Denyerec |
css issue? |
| 12:56 |
eeos |
tobi I do not understand, I will make some tests later |
| 12:56 |
tobi |
yes, css/ IE problem Denyerec |
| 12:56 |
just2b |
denyerec: mf_pagetitle |
| 12:57 |
Denyerec |
just2b - you mean I can't just alter a wrap in the TS structure? |
| 12:57 |
just2b |
this is the way I do it... |
| 12:58 |
tobi |
you can also use ts if you want Denyerec: http://www.typo3wizard.com/en/snippets/general-config/customize-pagetitle.html |
| 12:59 |
Denyerec |
Oh I see |
| 12:59 |
Denyerec |
turn it off and add one in the header data... |
| 12:59 |
Denyerec |
Fair enough, thought you might be able to just alter the standard wrap on it. |
| 12:59 |
Denyerec |
tobi it looks like the hover state in IE isn't being cleared because you're triggering another hover event before the mouseout |
| 13:00 |
tobi |
hm i dont know if its possible to change the default wrap |
| 13:00 |
Denyerec |
you may well only be able to solve that in IE with some JS |
| 13:00 |
eeos |
Denyerec I think the probelm is the cascading is not properly read, so if you try to cascade in reality you redefine open another status |
| 13:00 |
eeos |
sorry, another event |
| 13:01 |
tobi |
Denyerec on the site i copied this script it works also in ie (http://host.sonspring.com/hoverbox/), so probably i have made a error .. |
| 13:01 |
Denyerec |
hmm |
| 13:01 |
eeos |
http://host.sonspring.com/hoverbox/ tobi they do not redefine! |
| 13:01 |
eeos |
tobi i have jsu finished reading their css |
| 13:01 |
eeos |
it works well in ie 5.5, 6.0, 7.0 |
| 13:03 |
tobi |
how do you mean they do no redefine? they also have a second css for ie which looks like my one |
| 13:10 |
eeos |
tobi I am doing some experiments with you code |
| 13:10 |
tobi |
ok, thank you eeos ... im played around for 3 hours and did not came further than this |
| 13:13 |
zatmania |
hey pulp |
| 13:20 |
pulponair |
zatmania: type something please my clients seems to be brocken |
| 13:20 |
zatmania |
pulp : ? |
| 13:23 |
eeos |
tobi I cannot make it work. |
| 13:24 |
eeos |
I have made it work properly in opera, but no ie 6.0 |
| 13:26 |
eeos |
hi pulponair zatmania |
| 13:26 |
zatmania |
hi eeos |
| 13:26 |
Denyerec |
tobi my only advice would be to crosscheck the markup and CSS with their exact example carefully |
| 13:26 |
Denyerec |
and then start changing things again one thing at a time :( |
| 13:26 |
tobi |
for me it works in opera/mozilla but not in ie, i copied the css 1:1 only changed the classname with search and replace ... |
| 13:27 |
Denyerec |
eeos confirms theirs works in IE5 6 7 |
| 13:27 |
Denyerec |
have you changed anything else? |
| 13:27 |
Denyerec |
image sizes etc ? |
| 13:27 |
Denyerec |
I notice in their example there is some space around the thumbnails |
| 13:28 |
Denyerec |
M, so there is on yours |
| 13:30 |
max_muetze |
voidus: would you help me with the news_feeder extension? i read the guide but it doesn't work... |
| 13:30 |
voidus |
max_muetze: i don't use this extension.. |
| 13:32 |
eeos |
tobi I think the problem is |
| 13:32 |
max_muetze |
voidus: ok, but thanks for the suggestion |
| 13:33 |
eeos |
.csc-textpic dl should be .csc-textpic dt |
| 13:33 |
eeos |
could you please try? |
| 13:33 |
eeos |
tobi |
| 13:33 |
tobi |
yes moment |
| 13:34 |
tobi |
changet to dt, same thing |
| 13:36 |
eeos |
tobi no, it works on my machine now! |
| 13:36 |
eeos |
tobi have you cleared the cache? |
| 13:37 |
tobi |
yes i have, when viewing the source i also see the .csc-textpic dt |
| 13:39 |
eeos |
tobi so why does it work here, ad not on your machine? |
| 13:39 |
tobi |
web weirdness i guess ;) |
| 13:40 |
eeos |
tobi you have modified other things in css!!!! |
| 13:40 |
eeos |
.csc-textpic dl,.csc-textpic dt,.csc-textpic dd,dt |
| 13:40 |
eeos |
{ |
| 13:40 |
eeos |
position: static; |
| 13:40 |
eeos |
} |
| 13:40 |
eeos |
that is how mine is. |
| 13:40 |
eeos |
yours is |
| 13:41 |
eeos |
.csc-textpic dl,.csc-textpic dt,.csc-textpic dd,dt |
| 13:41 |
eeos |
{ |
| 13:41 |
eeos |
position: static; |
| 13:41 |
eeos |
} |
| 13:41 |
eeos |
sorry |
| 13:41 |
eeos |
yours is |
| 13:41 |
eeos |
.csc-textpic dt |
| 13:41 |
eeos |
{ |
| 13:41 |
eeos |
position: static; |
| 13:41 |
eeos |
} |
| 13:41 |
tobi |
yes i changed it back to the original from http://host.sonspring.com/hoverbox/css/ie_fixes.css |
| 13:42 |
eeos |
tobi well, mine is now working, using your code and not the code from sonspring |
| 13:42 |
eeos |
so modify them back |
| 13:42 |
tobi |
so i did change something but i only addet more selectors and after that i changed it back to the original css |
| 13:42 |
eeos |
tobi did you also modify the html? |
| 13:42 |
tobi |
how is your css looking? yould you phpifi please? |
| 13:43 |
tobi |
the html i want to use is created by typo3, so it is a bit different than the original one |
| 13:44 |
eeos |
here it is |
| 13:44 |
eeos |
http://phpfi.com/218619 |
| 13:44 |
eeos |
but keep in mind I am not loading the rest of the css generated by your typo3, because I only use this css. so if there is interferece between them, I do not see it. |
| 13:44 |
eeos |
tobi it works properly on my machine now, using your code |
| 13:46 |
tobi |
nice, that css works for me too ... tank you eeos! what did you change? |
| 13:47 |
eeos |
tobi you used dl instead of dt, so the class was acting on the wrong tag ! :P |
| 13:49 |
eeos |
tobi going back to the special = directory, I read the blooming tsref manual, did not understand how to use it :( |
| 13:52 |
tobi |
it is simple, you create a menu that starts from a given uid. so instead of letting hmenu decide where your menu begins, you specifie it by setting special.value=startpid |
| 13:53 |
just2b |
but you can also make it soo cool dynamically with adding the start pid in page propertires gg |
| 13:54 |
eeos |
tobi ah! is that so simple? |
| 13:54 |
eeos |
tobi (which measn am I that stupid? :D) |
| 13:54 |
eeos |
just2b I do not understand? |
| 13:55 |
tobi |
yes it is that simple, but when you never used it how should you know it? ;) |
| 13:55 |
eeos |
tobi thanks for consolation :D |
| 13:55 |
eeos |
just2b tobi what is this thing of adding the start pid in page properties? |
| 14:00 |
eeos |
does anyone know how to participate in the typo3 5.0 development process |
| 14:00 |
eeos |
? |
| 14:01 |
just2b |
this can be done by a extension, if you need it |
| 14:01 |
eeos |
ah! food is ready! :) |
| 14:01 |
eeos |
talk to you all later! |
| 14:02 |
just2b |
question: How can I set a parameter in TS? e.g. L = 2 |
| 14:02 |
tobi |
in a link? you cant change values with ts ( only registers ) |
| 14:04 |
Denyerec |
enzo |
| 14:04 |
Denyerec |
eeos |
| 14:04 |
Denyerec |
I thin it's like Fight Club |
| 14:04 |
Denyerec |
you have to stand outside in the rain for a few months. |
| 14:04 |
Denyerec |
:) |
| 14:04 |
Denyerec |
Hey Staffan |
| 14:05 |
just2b |
tobi, not only a link but everywhere... like it would be after linkVars = K |
| 14:05 |
just2b |
= L ;) |
| 14:05 |
Jigal |
grmpff.... I need four RTE fields in a single backend form; the first three only show textarea with text + html tags; fourth shows empty toolbars and a footer with "Path:". I use tinyRTE; any ideas?? |
| 14:06 |
tobi |
hm i dont think that thats possible just2b |
| 14:06 |
tobi |
maybe with a php function |
| 14:08 |
j0hndeere |
Good morning, earth humans. |
| 14:10 |
Jigal |
I'l try again (every 5 minutes ;-P until the solution is found): |
| 14:10 |
Jigal |
I need four RTE fields in a single backend form; the first three only show textarea with text + html tags; fourth shows empty toolbars and a footer with "Path:". I use tinyRTE; any ideas?? |
| 14:11 |
tobi |
i see 2 possibilities Jigal: writing a small extension or using templavoila with a fce |
| 14:11 |
tobi |
good morning j0hndeere |
| 14:12 |
Jigal |
tobi: can you explain what the problem is with multiple RTE instances (other than "it doesn't work" :-) )? |
| 14:13 |
tobi |
hm it should work? what is the problem with them? used them in quite some projects |
| 14:13 |
tobi |
but allways with templavoila |
| 14:14 |
Jigal |
this is in the backend, list view, editing a record... |
| 14:15 |
tobi |
maybe there is a new bug .. hmm |
| 14:15 |
Jigal |
tobi: TYPO3 v.3.8.1.... maybe an old bug? LOL |
| 14:16 |
tobi |
uhm yes :P |
| 14:26 |
just2b |
sry me again: how can I add a parameter in a menu? |
| 14:33 |
Jigal |
I forgot how I can see which version of an ext in TER is suitable for which version of TYPO3... (help?) |
| 14:38 |
Denyerec |
if you use something GPL in your own product |
| 14:38 |
Denyerec |
does yourproduct have to then be GPL ? |
| 14:38 |
Denyerec |
I think that's how it works but I need calrification |
| 14:38 |
Denyerec |
*clarification |
| 14:39 |
MasterYin |
Anybody here fit with GIFBUILDER? |
| 14:43 |
MasterYin |
Any idea why i get NO OUTPUT from the Gifbuilder? |
| 14:43 |
just2b |
code wrong? |
| 14:46 |
Jigal |
Denyerec: interesting problem; GPL only states that if you modify a GPL'd program and distribute the modification the modified version also needs to be distributed under GPL... But even experts do not agree whether non-GPL can dynamically link to GPL... Which version of GPL do you refer to? |
| 14:47 |
MasterYin |
I copied the Samplecode from wiki.typo3.org |
| 14:48 |
MasterYin |
What do i need for the GIFBUILDER? |
| 14:48 |
Denyerec |
No idea jigal |
| 14:48 |
Denyerec |
a friend wants to use a GPL map in something |
| 14:48 |
Denyerec |
and wants to knw if that means he has to GPL his whole app |
| 14:49 |
Jigal |
Denyerec: and he wants to distribute "something" or only run it himself (e.g. a website that uses GPL software to run on) |
| 14:50 |
eeos |
re |
| 14:50 |
eeos |
hi everybody |
| 14:50 |
SpinGary |
hi all |
| 14:51 |
Denyerec |
I think he wants to distribute it. |
| 14:51 |
Denyerec |
I think it's a website |
| 14:51 |
Denyerec |
he's not been very clear |
| 14:51 |
SpinGary |
neonide and i are looking for a typo3 freelancer to build a couple of simple extensions |
| 14:52 |
SpinGary |
any referrals are much appreciated |
| 14:52 |
Denyerec |
Damnit. |
| 14:52 |
Denyerec |
I wish I could code extensions :( |
| 14:52 |
Denyerec |
Mind you if they're simple... |
| 14:52 |
Denyerec |
just HOW simple are you talking SpinGary ? |
| 14:52 |
SpinGary |
it's all relative, now, isn't it? :-D |
| 14:52 |
Denyerec |
haha yeah |
| 14:52 |
Jigal |
I wish I could code TypoScript :-( |
| 14:53 |
Denyerec |
I know Ries, gerards, just2b, voidus all do extension dev. |
| 14:53 |
Denyerec |
Lots of people here do |
| 14:53 |
Denyerec |
But I guess it depends on the budget and the complexity. |
| 14:53 |
SpinGary |
think guestbook but with a file upload |
| 14:53 |
Denyerec |
you had me up to "but" |
| 14:53 |
SpinGary |
then backend admin who can review the entries and the files (iamges) uploaded |
| 14:54 |
SpinGary |
we'll be lurking around all day (I'm in US) in case anyone's interested |
| 14:56 |
MasterYin |
I need some who can Tell me how to use the Gifbuilder! |
| 14:57 |
Denyerec |
CAREFULLY! |
| 14:58 |
Denyerec |
What are you trying to do with the gifbuilder ? |
| 14:58 |
Jigal |
SpinGary: have you read: http://typo3.org/community/service-offerings/ ? |
| 14:58 |
MasterYin |
I want him to create Gif with transparent Background with Text in an Spezial font |
| 14:58 |
SpinGary |
I have, but most of them are so very busy |
| 15:00 |
MasterYin |
SpinGary: on Typo3.net is also a corner for Freelancers... |
| 15:00 |
Jigal |
SpinGary: yes the list on http://typo3.com/Consultancies.1248.0.html of companies with a proven track record for the U.S. is very limited. But with the internet the world becomes a lot smaller :-) |
| 15:00 |
Jigal |
MasterYin: good one! |
| 15:00 |
Denyerec |
sounds to me like you want a fe guestbook to anonymously accept image uploads but hide the records until they have been reviewed and marked as OK, correct? |
| 15:01 |
Denyerec |
MasterYin |
| 15:01 |
Denyerec |
I think there's a guide for this |
| 15:01 |
Denyerec |
one mo |
| 15:01 |
SpinGary |
Yes, that's what I am looking for |
| 15:01 |
SpinGary |
Jigal + MasterYin: looking at the list now -- didn't see the Freelancer nook... thx for the pointer! |
| 15:03 |
MasterYin |
SpinGary: http://www.typo3.net/forum/list/list_topic/8/ |
| 15:05 |
eeos |
incredible. |
| 15:06 |
Denyerec |
Bwahahahahahaa |
| 15:06 |
Denyerec |
http://wla.systemcms.com/ |
| 15:06 |
eeos |
on one installation, bullet point appeared in the BE near the symbols for pages in the server tree |
| 15:06 |
Denyerec |
OK, so the text only link doesn't GO anywhere yet |
| 15:06 |
Denyerec |
but at least it looks OK |
| 15:06 |
Denyerec |
I don't trust tinyRTE |
| 15:06 |
Denyerec |
I don't know why. |
| 15:06 |
eeos |
Denyerec no bad |
| 15:06 |
eeos |
Jigal goodbye |
| 15:07 |
thone |
hi, is there a way to get the uid and pid of the current site ? for a hint, guide, link i would be deeply grateful |
| 15:07 |
Denyerec |
http://wiki.typo3.org/index.php/GIFBUILDER |
| 15:09 |
eeos |
thone the udi of a site? |
| 15:09 |
thone |
joa |
| 15:09 |
eeos |
anyone has a solution for the bullet point thing? |
| 15:12 |
eeos |
it happens only if I use FF. |
| 15:22 |
j0hndeere |
Hello again. |
| 15:27 |
bauschan |
bauschan wishes a nice weekend |
| 15:29 |
Phlogiston |
anyone knows a good book for typo3 extension programming? Or any good links? |
| 15:29 |
gerards |
huh? Denyerec? you mentioned my name? you need ANOTHER extension ;) |
| 15:30 |
gerards |
? |
| 15:30 |
max_muetze |
can anyone tell where to set up xml-rpc in typo3? |
| 15:30 |
Zat[FarFarAwAy] |
it exist like an ext |
| 15:30 |
just2b |
max: there are some ext which to this |
| 15:31 |
max_muetze |
i need it for blogging with timtab and windows live writer... |
| 15:31 |
max_muetze |
i cannot find a manual for doing this |
| 15:34 |
max_muetze |
ah i found a setting in templates/template storage/+ext tt_news-config/PLUGIN.TX_TIMTAB - i think this should be the right setting.... |
| 15:51 |
max_muetze |
does someone uses an external blogging tool like w.bloggar for typo3 here? |
| 16:01 |
max_muetze |
sorry, for so many questions...i get |
| 16:01 |
max_muetze |
i get the following error: Fatal error: Allowed memory size of 33554432 bytes exhausted (tried to allocate 32 bytes) in /is/htdocs/wp1051649_4RN2WSUMN6/www/typo3/typo3conf/ext/rlmp_officelib/class.tx_rlmpofficelib_div.php on line 63 |
| 16:01 |
max_muetze |
can someone help me with this? i want to view the ext-documents |
| 16:05 |
max_muetze |
(as i get this error...) |
| 16:19 |
eeos |
has anyone ever tried to install typo3 using Fantastico? |
| 16:29 |
eeos |
I have to go. |
| 16:29 |
eeos |
have a nice weekend everybody! |
| 16:29 |
Denyerec |
gerards - some US dude was after an extension freelancer |
| 16:35 |
reber |
hi all |
| 16:49 |
SpinGary |
gerald: that US dude is me... looking for solid extension builder to build mostly basic plugins |
| 16:50 |
SpinGary |
I'm crash-coursing extension building as we speak. Using the guestbook extension and tye TYPO3 ECM book as a guide |
| 16:51 |
SpinGary |
I wish there was a solid, recent extension that's more complex than mininews to use as a guide. Guestbook is nice but doesn't use Templavoila |
| 16:52 |
SpinGary |
Oh, did I mention, I am so sick of coding now. So, that's why I'm looking for a freelancer :-P |
| 17:20 |
andreasbalzer |
Hi |
| 17:20 |
andreasbalzer |
how to remove files from ./uploads that are no longer used by T3? |
| 17:43 |
MarwolTuk |
bye |
| 18:19 |
Denyerec |
When dealing with a text only site, is it beter to create a whole new text only template, or just implement some kind of style switcher ? |
| 18:22 |
uschi |
good question, Denyerec |
| 18:23 |
SpinGary |
If you prepared the css/content integration well enough, a css switcher should be all you need |
| 18:23 |
Denyerec |
Well my CSS rocks |
| 18:24 |
Denyerec |
So all I need is a Typo3 safe style switcher |
| 18:24 |
Denyerec |
or, should I say TYPO3 styleswitcher |
| 18:24 |
Denyerec |
if I'm adhering to the TYPO3 style and branding guidelines I read recently. |
| 18:24 |
uschi |
if you find one, let me know, Denyerec |
| 18:24 |
SpinGary |
in our ecommerce sites, we use css to position content. we put all the meaty content up front on the code, but in that example it would NOT be a good thing to just use CSS switcher |
| 18:24 |
Denyerec |
You still being hassled by students? |
| 18:24 |
uschi |
what is to fluffle? |
| 18:24 |
Denyerec |
Ok |
| 18:24 |
uschi |
no, i am free |
| 18:24 |
Denyerec |
Um |
| 18:25 |
Denyerec |
Imagine approaching someone, and making a mess of their hair in a friendly way |
| 18:25 |
uschi |
aah :)) |
| 18:25 |
SpinGary |
i wish my CSS skillz were better |
| 18:25 |
SpinGary |
what if one has no hair? |
| 18:25 |
Denyerec |
It's quite possibly the one part of webdev I am actually any good with. |
| 18:26 |
uschi |
my mind gets twisted by this localisation stuff |
| 18:26 |
Denyerec |
But it's perfectly acceptable to fluffle someone's jumper, if it's wooly, or their bald head if you're short on options. |
| 18:26 |
Denyerec |
uschi at least you can actually speak different languages... :) |
| 18:26 |
Denyerec |
I have to invent all the translations too! ;) |
| 18:27 |
uschi |
wb pulponaire |
| 18:27 |
pulponair |
without 'e' ;) |
| 18:27 |
uschi |
pulponair-e |
| 18:27 |
Denyerec |
it'll be pulponaire when he's rich :) |
| 18:28 |
pulponair |
;) |
| 18:28 |
pulponair |
el pulp |
| 18:29 |
pulponair |
i used to name myself |pulp until 95 but someone at ircnet highjacked that nick |
| 18:31 |
uschi |
i am just reading the localisation guide again |
| 18:31 |
pulponair |
uschi: confusing stuff especially in common with TV |
| 18:31 |
uschi |
and i am told, that for flexforms (i.e. tv in my case) i should set <langDisable>1</langDisable> for Container elements |
| 18:32 |
pulponair |
uschi: depends |
| 18:32 |
uschi |
i reckon, page templates are Container elements by nature? |
| 18:32 |
uschi |
there are all these warnings in the guide and not enough explanation, in my eyes |
| 18:33 |
pulponair |
uschi:i recently set up a sit using 35 different languages using tv ...pain in the ass |
| 18:33 |
pulponair |
s/sit/site |
| 18:33 |
uschi |
well, i do have only 15 or so |
| 18:33 |
pulponair |
uschi: enough ;) |
| 18:34 |
uschi |
but it seems to me, that in some cases i will need separate |
| 18:34 |
pulponair |
uschi: may be it is worth thinking about the needed translation system |
| 18:35 |
uschi |
students coming from, let's say Russia, need different information than english students |
| 18:35 |
pulponair |
uschi: : inheritation is quite cool but becomes pretty complex when using nested FCEs |
| 18:35 |
pulponair |
uschi: yes but using inheritation you is kinda mixture of seperation and 1:1 |
| 18:35 |
pulponair |
s/you// |
| 18:35 |
uschi |
by nested FCEs you mean: i have an outer FCE with three cols, that can contain content elements again? |
| 18:36 |
pulponair |
uschi: right |
| 18:36 |
uschi |
i understand, because in some cases you do not want to translate images |
| 18:36 |
uschi |
and stuff like that |
| 18:36 |
pulponair |
uschi: something like those fancy round corner boxes i used at the bc site |
| 18:37 |
uschi |
no content, just layout, you mean |
| 18:37 |
uschi |
i have to start with the pages first |
| 18:37 |
pulponair |
uschi: inheritation mode enables you eigther to translate a particular ce or use total diffent content for a content column |
| 18:37 |
uschi |
how that? |
| 18:37 |
uschi |
can we start with pages, please? |
| 18:38 |
pulponair |
uschi: lets assume your page template consists of 1 colum "content" |
| 18:38 |
uschi |
ok |
| 18:39 |
pulponair |
uschi: on some pages you may just want to translate ces 1:1 so you are fine with that but on some page you may need totally different content so just select the particular language from that tv select box and you are able to fill the content column with language specific content |
| 18:40 |
uschi |
this is the case i am thinking of |
| 18:40 |
pulponair |
uschi: yes i guessed so therefor i suggested "inheritation mode" |
| 18:41 |
uschi |
ok |
| 18:41 |
pulponair |
uschi: <langChildren type="integer">1</langChildren> |
| 18:41 |
pulponair |
<langDisable type="integer">0</langDisable> |
| 18:41 |
pulponair |
for inheritation mode |
| 18:42 |
pulponair |
at your pagetemplate |
| 18:42 |
uschi |
so i set my page template to <langChildren>1</langChildren> and <langDisable>0</langDisable> |
| 18:42 |
pulponair |
right |
| 18:42 |
uschi |
the localisation guide tells me, that i should avoid these settings for container elements |
| 18:42 |
pulponair |
uschi: yes elements! |
| 18:43 |
pulponair |
uschi: confusing but it is related to "nested elements" |
| 18:43 |
uschi |
so only FCEs are meant by this |
| 18:43 |
pulponair |
uschi: yes probably |
| 18:43 |
bedlamhotel |
Pulponair: you wouldn't want to stick this all in the wiki sometime, would you? Good stuff. |
| 18:43 |
uschi |
we will have to do this |
| 18:43 |
uschi |
with examples |
| 18:43 |
pulponair |
bedlamhotel: it is covered by the language guide but i would like to see some "best practise stuff" |
| 18:43 |
pulponair |
right |
| 18:44 |
uschi |
so we will form a club that sorts this out |
| 18:44 |
pulponair |
uschi: after you set inheritation mode switch over to the page module and perform some testing to get used to it ...tell me if you are ready i ll guide you through |
| 18:44 |
bedlamhotel |
Yes, I know the localization guide. But an additional how-to from the point of view of someone implementing a projet could be useful... But please carry on. |
| 18:45 |
uschi |
ok, i will have to set up the rest of the language stuff too |
| 18:45 |
uschi |
i have not configured it yet |
| 18:45 |
uschi |
shall i update all my extensions first? |
| 18:45 |
pulponair |
uschi: dont forget to set sys_language_mode = content_fallback |
| 18:45 |
pulponair |
sys_language_overlay = hideNonTranslated at the ts template |
| 18:46 |
uschi |
i am not sure whether i want that |
| 18:46 |
pulponair |
uschi: sure but set it as default |
| 18:46 |
uschi |
sys_language_overlay is only for content elements, right? |
| 18:46 |
pulponair |
right |
| 18:46 |
uschi |
and sys_language_mode for menus aka pages |
| 18:46 |
pulponair |
you may change it afterwards but please set it as default so you got a point to start from |
| 18:47 |
uschi |
for sys_language_mode i would choose content_fallback |
| 18:47 |
uschi |
pulponaire, is there a way to limit languages via page TSConfig? |
| 18:48 |
pulponair |
guys, i am in hurry so just one short last shot: set page template as mentioned above, set ts template and play arround with it until you got familiar with it |
| 18:48 |
uschi |
ok, ok |
| 18:48 |
uschi |
rome was not build in a day |
| 18:48 |
uschi |
so no updating of extensions first? |
| 18:48 |
pulponair |
uschi: i guess so but i do not know it off hand right now |
| 18:49 |
uschi |
shit, phone |
| 18:49 |
pulponair |
uschi: no not neccessary at this point ...get familiar with translation ...it is important since it becomes really complex on huge sites |
| 18:51 |
pulponair |
hey guess what ...amazon sells beer |
| 18:51 |
pulponair |
but i think it is just american root beer ... |
| 18:53 |
pulponair |
uschi: btw i was able to make this "post html code within the rte"-think work |
| 18:54 |
uschi |
great |
| 18:54 |
pulponair |
yes :) |
| 18:55 |
uschi |
ok, now writing config for languages |
| 18:56 |
pulponair |
btw:searching for a new flat is such a frustrating thing |
| 19:00 |
Denyerec |
has anyone ever done a style switcher on Typo3 ? |
| 19:00 |
Denyerec |
there are some extensions for it but they all look a bit overboard. |
| 19:01 |
pulponair |
Denyerec: i did similar thing but its more some kind of ts switcher |
| 19:01 |
Denyerec |
HOw do you mean? |
| 19:01 |
Denyerec |
i just have a text-only "accessible" stylesheet, and need a text link on the site to switch over to it. |
| 19:01 |
pulponair |
Denyerec: just introduce a get variable and include different css files depending on its value |
| 19:02 |
Denyerec |
Thing is, I am then in deep trouble with RealURL |
| 19:02 |
Denyerec |
and making sure all links carry it |
| 19:02 |
Denyerec |
etc |
| 19:02 |
pulponair |
Denyerec: privat i wanna show it to you |
| 19:02 |
Denyerec |
OK |
| 19:02 |
Denyerec |
I'm regg'd I think |
| 19:03 |
pulponair |
Denyerec: no responce |
| 19:04 |
pulponair |
Denyerec: still alive? |
| 19:07 |
bedlamhotel |
Denyerec: re stylesheet switcher: you don't need to do /everything/ with TS...I guess you probably want a non-js solution thouugh, right? |
| 19:08 |
Denyerec |
Preferably yeah |
| 19:08 |
Denyerec |
Cos you can't always guarantee their browser is js enabled. |
| 19:11 |
bedlamhotel |
Yes, of course. Depending on the audience, it's sometimes worth the risk (i.e. when you can reliably predict the rate of js availability). |
| 19:11 |
Denyerec |
Aye. |
| 19:12 |
Denyerec |
in the case of this client, they most likely don't care |
| 19:12 |
Denyerec |
but for the sake of future projects which may have stricter accessibility concerns, it doesn't hurt to learn the best way :) |
| 19:12 |
bedlamhotel |
Seems to me you could use a strategy like some print pages where you just append a ?accessibility=1 to the current page's url and use GPVar condition to check for it and deliver stylesheets. |
| 19:13 |
bedlamhotel |
Obviously if you need the styles to be persistent, you'll have to get into cookies etc in addition. |
| 19:29 |
bedlamhotel |
Any OSX users around today? |
| 19:29 |
pulponair |
over here |
| 19:29 |
pulponair |
at least osx86 |
| 19:29 |
bedlamhotel |
pulponair, do you do your TS work in Firefox then? |
| 19:29 |
pulponair |
just2b: wb |
| 19:30 |
just2b |
hi pulponair, thx |
| 19:30 |
pulponair |
bedlamhotel: to be honest i do not use osx for webdev just for fontconverting as uschi may confirm ;) |
| 19:30 |
bedlamhotel |
Pulponair: Aha, I had heard that :) |
| 19:30 |
pulponair |
bedlamhotel: really ;) |
| 19:32 |
bedlamhotel |
Any other OSX users? Textareas in Template module in FF on OSX have been f*cked up ever since it was made possible to use tabs in them. Wondered if anyone knew anything about that... |
| 19:32 |
pulponair |
ok, i gotta go bye |
| 19:32 |
bedlamhotel |
ciao pulp* |
| 19:32 |
uschi |
hm, i never tried it out, bedlamhotel |
| 19:32 |
uschi |
i have a mac, but i hardly ever use it |
| 19:33 |
uschi |
because i do not know howto |
| 19:33 |
bedlamhotel |
Ah. I have a mac but I hardly ever use anything else if I can help it. (Except at work) |
| 19:33 |
uschi |
and either i am learning typo3 or 105 other things |
| 19:33 |
bedlamhotel |
*L* |
| 19:33 |
pulponair |
bye folks |
| 19:33 |
bedlamhotel |
Using a new OS is not such a difficult thing. Easier in all respects than learning TS. |
| 19:33 |
uschi |
bye pulponair |
| 19:34 |
uschi |
the problem is that not all the software i need is available for mac |
| 19:34 |
uschi |
concerning dictionaries and fulltext databases, bedlamhotel |
| 19:35 |
bedlamhotel |
Yeah. Understood. I only use Adobe products, texteditors, ftp programs etc. All easy to get for whatever platform. |
| 19:35 |
bedlamhotel |
Well, except the Adobe products. |
| 19:35 |
uschi |
true |
| 19:40 |
uschi |
they are expensive |
| 19:40 |
bedlamhotel |
...and not available on *nix. |
| 19:44 |
Denyerec |
bedlamhotel - if I have a getvar called Camel how do I test it in TS ? |
| 19:46 |
gerards |
[globalVar = GP:camel = mammal]? |
| 19:46 |
Denyerec |
thanks gerards |
| 19:46 |
Denyerec |
now |
| 19:46 |
gerards |
please check tsref to confirm my syntax. |
| 19:46 |
Denyerec |
gerards |
| 19:46 |
Denyerec |
we can do this the easy way or the hard way... If you're thinking of leaving, I may have to tape you to the ceiling. |
| 19:47 |
gerards |
let's... |
| 19:47 |
gerards |
see... |
| 19:47 |
gerards |
I think I want the easy way. |
| 19:48 |
Denyerec |
Good :) |
| 19:48 |
Denyerec |
do you know how i add a getvar to a Typolink in TS? |
| 19:48 |
Denyerec |
I have given it a page ID to go to |
| 19:48 |
Denyerec |
but need to add the parameter as an extra |
| 19:49 |
gerards |
i think there is a addParams in typolink |
| 19:49 |
gerards |
or additionalParams. |
| 19:49 |
gerards |
don't make me open tsref..... |
| 19:50 |
Denyerec |
I was trying to avoid that myself :) |
| 19:50 |
gerards |
sigh.... i'll open it. |
| 19:50 |
gerards |
crazy brits. |
| 19:51 |
gerards |
typolink.parameter = 55555 |
| 19:51 |
gerards |
typolink.additionalParams = &camel=1 |
| 19:51 |
gerards |
try that |
| 19:52 |
gerards |
man, its been sometime that I opened tsref... :) |
| 19:52 |
gerards |
i forgot how cryptic it is. |
| 19:53 |
Denyerec |
Hmm |
| 19:53 |
Denyerec |
The tricky thing is |
| 19:53 |
Denyerec |
pulp showed me how to get RealURL to deal with the parameter |
| 19:53 |
Denyerec |
but if it set, I need it to STAY set |
| 19:53 |
Denyerec |
and I don't think it will |
| 19:53 |
Denyerec |
let me put everything in place and find out |
| 19:54 |
gerards |
ahhh there is a config for that. |
| 19:54 |
gerards |
config.linkVars! |
| 19:55 |
gerards |
I used it only for the L parameter for multilanguage sites, but it should work for camel too. |
| 19:58 |
voidus |
guys.. |
| 19:59 |
gerards |
hi voidus |
| 19:59 |
voidus |
hi gerards |
| 19:59 |
Denyerec |
ha bonza gerards |
| 20:00 |
voidus |
guys.. somethings strange with my flexforms |
| 20:00 |
voidus |
i need to know is it my bug or not |
| 20:00 |
bedlamhotel |
Denyerec: that's what I was referring to with my comment about cookies. You want the parameter to stay set, you need to keep track of it somewhere. |
| 20:01 |
bedlamhotel |
This is quite an obscure bit, even for the TSref, but it supposedly does explain how to store session data: |
| 20:01 |
bedlamhotel |
http://typo3.org/documentation/document-library/references/doc_core_tsref/4.0.0/view/14/1/ |
| 20:01 |
gerards |
bedlamhotel, Denyerec, before you use cookies for that, can you try the config.linkVars? it might be good enough for your needs. |
| 20:02 |
bedlamhotel |
Wait, TYPO3 deals with page types by default right? (I.e. it passes &type=14 or whatever once it's set doesn't it?) |
| 20:03 |
bedlamhotel |
...plus there are options in HMENU objects to force page types... |
| 20:03 |
andreasbalzer |
guys I have a serious problem |
| 20:04 |
andreasbalzer |
I installed T3 4.1 and if I click on the page module and then on a page of the page tree, the site of the right frame is completly white (empty) |
| 20:05 |
voidus |
fresh 4.1? |
| 20:05 |
andreasbalzer |
no 4.1 over 4.0.5 |
| 20:05 |
voidus |
i think i know your problem |
| 20:05 |
voidus |
you have error output disabled, right? |
| 20:06 |
andreasbalzer |
yes |
| 20:06 |
voidus |
go to install tool |
| 20:06 |
andreasbalzer |
ok |
| 20:06 |
andreasbalzer |
moment |
| 20:06 |
voidus |
and go through database compare |
| 20:07 |
andreasbalzer |
already done |
| 20:07 |
voidus |
did you create cache_extension table? |
| 20:07 |
andreasbalzer |
i did everything wanted by that tool |
| 20:08 |
andreasbalzer |
and i changed T3 install tool version compabilty to 4.1 |
| 20:08 |
voidus |
hm.. |
| 20:08 |
voidus |
so you should look into webserver log |
| 20:08 |
andreasbalzer |
i just switched sql_debug on but there's no entry |
| 20:08 |
andreasbalzer |
ok |
| 20:08 |
andreasbalzer |
moment |
| 20:09 |
voidus |
or check [SYS][debug]=1 |
| 20:10 |
andreasbalzer |
in apache log i see lot's of [Fri Mar 23 21:10:11 2007] [crit] (70023)This function has not been implemented on this platform: DBD: failed to initialise |
| 20:10 |
andreasbalzer |
and [Fri Mar 23 21:09:24 2007] [notice] child pid 12180 exit signal Segmentation fault (11) |
| 20:10 |
Denyerec |
My goodness |
| 20:11 |
Denyerec |
if it's obscure for TSRef... that makes it positively aztec! |
| 20:12 |
andreasbalzer |
the first is in there a few million times i guess.. |
| 20:12 |
gerards |
Denyerec: does it work? |
| 20:12 |
andreasbalzer |
voidus: [Thu Mar 22 20:04:11 2007] [crit] (70023)This function has not been implemented on this platform: DBD: driver for [DBDriver unset] not available |
| 20:13 |
Denyerec |
testing now |
| 20:13 |
Denyerec |
I am thinking i can use |
| 20:13 |
andreasbalzer |
voidus:? |
| 20:13 |
voidus |
andreasbalzer: strange.. |
| 20:13 |
voidus |
never seen |
| 20:13 |
andreasbalzer |
hm.. |
| 20:13 |
Denyerec |
$myData = $GLOBALS["TSFE"]->fe_user->getKey("ses","myData"); |
| 20:13 |
andreasbalzer |
any idea baout the white page? |
| 20:14 |
Denyerec |
but as my site does not use fe users I am not so sure |
| 20:17 |
bedlamhotel |
denyerec: I believe--this is kind of fuzzy in my head--that you can do such things with an anonymous FE user somehow. |
| 20:20 |
Denyerec |
Ok |
| 20:20 |
Denyerec |
that is step 3 |
| 20:20 |
Denyerec |
I am still on step 2 |
| 20:20 |
Denyerec |
trying to figure out how to do either an ELSE or a NOT EQUAL in the Typoscript |
| 20:20 |
bedlamhotel |
Why? |
| 20:20 |
Denyerec |
Cos I need a default case |
| 20:21 |
bedlamhotel |
Use a CASE... |
| 20:21 |
Denyerec |
if blah = camel |
| 20:21 |
Denyerec |
else |
| 20:21 |
Denyerec |
M, ok |
| 20:21 |
uschi |
use CASE |
| 20:21 |
uschi |
ah, already there |
| 20:21 |
bedlamhotel |
Besides, didn't I explain this the other day? |
| 20:21 |
uschi |
perhaps not to Denyerec, but to me |
| 20:21 |
bedlamhotel |
will throw together a quick sample. |
| 20:21 |
bedlamhotel |
Not that uschi. |
| 20:22 |
Denyerec |
bedlamhotel can you update the TSRef? |
| 20:22 |
Denyerec |
the CASE example in there is utterly shite. |
| 20:22 |
bedlamhotel |
I AM updating the TSref: typo3apprentice.com |
| 20:22 |
Denyerec |
:D |
| 20:22 |
bedlamhotel |
:D |
| 20:22 |
uschi |
:D |
| 20:23 |
bedlamhotel |
but hang on a sec. Default case is dead simple with conditions (and often more economical in terms of code than CASE) |
| 20:23 |
uschi |
sometimes the examples are somehow - well - far away from real world |
| 20:23 |
gerards |
bedlamhotel is right on that last point of being more simple with normal conditions. |
| 20:24 |
Denyerec |
You mean set your default stuaiton, then unset it and alter it within the condition ? |
| 20:25 |
gerards |
yep. that sounds a lot easier. |
| 20:25 |
bedlamhotel |
Deyerec: yes. But phpfi just ate my sample. |
| 20:25 |
voidus |
guys who can check one thing for me? |
| 20:25 |
gerards |
I think it reads a lot easier too. |
| 20:26 |
Denyerec |
voidus - depends what I need to chedk |
| 20:26 |
Denyerec |
if it's the engine on your car, the odds are small |
| 20:26 |
bedlamhotel |
CASE can be very useful for some things though (usually when there are multiple possibilities). Check the TV newsgroup for a nested case example I posed a month or so ago. |
| 20:26 |
voidus |
Denyerec: do you have 4.1 installation with >=2 extension with flexforms? |
| 20:27 |
Denyerec |
nope. |
| 20:27 |
Denyerec |
4.0.4 here |
| 20:27 |
Denyerec |
:/ |
| 20:27 |
voidus |
but do you have >=2 extensions with flexforms? |
| 20:28 |
Denyerec |
Ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm |
| 20:29 |
Denyerec |
You know I don't know! |
| 20:29 |
Denyerec |
I have URLTool and JP Pageteaser |
| 20:29 |
Denyerec |
I think Teaster uses flexforms |
| 20:29 |
Denyerec |
I need to install a googlemap plugin, and I'm sure that does |
| 20:29 |
Denyerec |
what issue are you looking nto ? |
| 20:29 |
Denyerec |
*into |
| 20:30 |
jav |
hi there! I'm trying to localize my typo3 website using the 'one-tree' approach and I wonder what's the 'standard' way of localizing the websites title? As I see it, this is set in the template record and I can't not specify different website titles there, can I? |
| 20:30 |
voidus |
Denyerec: incorrect XML of plugin flexform |
| 20:30 |
Denyerec |
Hmm. |
| 20:30 |
Denyerec |
I think you need someone more experienced voidus :( |
| 20:30 |
voidus |
jav: you can. you can create 'alternative language' record on each page |
| 20:31 |
jav |
voidus, but this is in the template record.. not a 'normal' page |
| 20:31 |
uschi |
jav, using tv? |
| 20:31 |
jav |
no, I don't |
| 20:32 |
voidus |
jav: ah. ok |
| 20:32 |
uschi |
but even then your pages have page titles |
| 20:32 |
jav |
they have.. but the look like this: <template website title> : <page title> .. I can localize the <page title> thing, that I know .. but what is with the <template website title> |
| 20:33 |
voidus |
jav: there is a trick |
| 20:33 |
voidus |
jav: you can set config.noTitle or config.noPageTitle, i don't remember |
| 20:33 |
voidus |
and then create <title> tag fully customized |
| 20:34 |
jav |
I see... and there is really no other way to do this? it seems like a pretty standard request to me .. or maybe people don't localize their 'global' website title |
| 20:35 |
uschi |
jav, you could do this by creating a locallang.xml file |
| 20:36 |
uschi |
there you put your website title in all the languages you need |
| 20:36 |
uschi |
and reference it somewhere in your ts (where the title is build, cannot remember where that is |
| 20:36 |
uschi |
perhaps headerData or something like that |
| 20:37 |
uschi |
and then say myPageTitle = {LLL:etc |
| 20:37 |
voidus |
uschi: or just create an content element and select it using CONTENT or RECORDS |
| 20:37 |
voidus |
if so, you don't need to know XML :P |
| 20:38 |
uschi |
good idea, or even a HMENU |
| 20:38 |
jav |
oh, I see, that sounds good, I'll look into that .. thx uschi and voidus |
| 20:38 |
uschi |
there is not a lot to know about those locallang files |
| 20:38 |
uschi |
depends on what you want |
| 21:00 |
brainage |
hello i need a littel help with ts cause i want to change tt_content.textpic image to something like this >> <a href="link"> <image> <and again same image></a> thnx |
| 21:08 |
Denyerec |
uschi |
| 21:08 |
Denyerec |
You about ? |
| 21:08 |
uschi |
yes? |
| 21:08 |
uschi |
about what? |
| 21:09 |
Denyerec |
http://typo3.org/documentation/document-library/references/doc_core_tsref/4.0.0/view/7/3/ |
| 21:09 |
Denyerec |
The top entry linkvars |
| 21:09 |
Denyerec |
it's a bit vague |
| 21:09 |
Denyerec |
This will add "&noframes=[noframes-value]&print=[print-value]" to all links in TYPO3. |
| 21:09 |
uschi |
this is exactly what i thought |
| 21:09 |
Denyerec |
So it claims. But it doesn't tell me how to specify what noframes-value actually IS |
| 21:09 |
Denyerec |
Did you find any answers? |
| 21:09 |
brainage |
hello ist there anybody willing to help me ? |
| 21:10 |
uschi |
somewhere, i try to remember, where |
| 21:10 |
uschi |
Denyerec, i think the point was: |
| 21:11 |
uschi |
in linkVars you can list all those GP-vars you want to carry around all the time |
| 21:11 |
Denyerec |
brainage - am I to understand you want to repeat the same image twice within the same hyperlink ? |
| 21:11 |
uschi |
brainage, i am not sure that i am able to |
| 21:11 |
brainage |
yes |
| 21:11 |
bedlamhotel |
uschi: I think you're correct about that (config.linkVars). |
| 21:12 |
Denyerec |
I still don't understand :/ |
| 21:12 |
bedlamhotel |
denyerec: don't understand..? |
| 21:12 |
Denyerec |
Nope. |
| 21:12 |
bedlamhotel |
...what..? |
| 21:12 |
Denyerec |
lnkvars |
| 21:12 |
uschi |
lets say you have your language var named L |
| 21:12 |
uschi |
if you add it to linkVars it will be always there |
| 21:13 |
Denyerec |
But where did L come from ? |
| 21:13 |
brainage |
i want to craete a css hover preview like here http://host.sonspring.com/hoverbox/ |
| 21:13 |
uschi |
?L=47&print=1 |
| 21:13 |
bedlamhotel |
Denyerec: Keyboard? Just a guess :) |
| 21:13 |
Denyerec |
ok so if you linkvar it then L=47 will be on every link |
| 21:13 |
Denyerec |
I understand that bit. |
| 21:13 |
bedlamhotel |
Denyerec: the point is that you have to specify something...whatever you want. |
| 21:14 |
Denyerec |
What I don't get, is how it gets to be 47 |
| 21:14 |
Denyerec |
if I wanted to say "Ok, append 47 to every link" from TS |
| 21:14 |
Denyerec |
Wait, you know what, I'm running in circles. |
| 21:14 |
Denyerec |
I need to figure out what I'm trying to do again |
| 21:14 |
Denyerec |
because the odds are I'm simply overlooking it. |
| 21:14 |
bedlamhotel |
Denyerec: config.linkVars = 47 |
| 21:14 |
uschi |
Denyerec, in principle you have a form, lets say a <select name="L"><option value="1">english</option>... |
| 21:14 |
bedlamhotel |
It's not dynamic on its own. |
| 21:14 |
bedlamhotel |
You have to change the value according to some user interaction/condition/etc. |
| 21:15 |
uschi |
this is about the GET-POST-Parameters coming out of forms |
| 21:15 |
uschi |
so L is the variable name for your language |
| 21:15 |
uschi |
you could call it babylon |
| 21:16 |
bedlamhotel |
Or 'babel' :) |
| 21:16 |
uschi |
right |
| 21:16 |
uschi |
you should not do this with the L for language though |
| 21:16 |
Denyerec |
now L is a postvar |
| 21:17 |
uschi |
could also be a GET-Var |
| 21:17 |
Denyerec |
from a form probably POST, but we'll go with GET cos that's what I'm dealing with at the moment |
| 21:17 |
bedlamhotel |
L usually is GET, not POST. |
| 21:17 |
uschi |
depends on whether your form uses method="get" or method="post" |
| 21:17 |
bedlamhotel |
(outside of forms, of course) |
| 21:17 |
Denyerec |
indeed |
| 21:18 |
uschi |
why, i can have a form that uses get |
| 21:18 |
bedlamhotel |
Yes uschi of course. I just meant that the L var in T3 is usually present in query strings, so it's not a POST var. |
| 21:18 |
uschi |
ah |
| 21:19 |
uschi |
bedlamhotel, is there a way to restrict a part of the page tree to certain languages? |
| 21:19 |
brainage |
no idea ? |
| 21:19 |
bedlamhotel |
Denyerec: I think you might have better luck if you decided HOW you want the style switcher to work in general terms, and THEN move on to getting it to work in TYPO3. |
| 21:19 |
uschi |
i cannot even find the user settings |
| 21:19 |
bedlamhotel |
uschi: define 'restrict'. |
| 21:20 |
uschi |
i have some 15 website languages |
| 21:20 |
uschi |
i mean in the be, so that users are not confronted with languages they will never need in that part of the page tree |
| 21:21 |
bedlamhotel |
Filemount. |
| 21:21 |
Denyerec |
Yeah bedlamhotel, I have an idea in my head, just struggling with syntax at the moment. |
| 21:21 |
Denyerec |
brb |
| 21:21 |
Denyerec |
I thnk it's almost there |
| 21:21 |
bedlamhotel |
Uschi: you need to create groups corresponding to languages. |
| 21:21 |
uschi |
oh no, please |
| 21:22 |
bedlamhotel |
In those groups, set filemounts to the root of the language in question. |
| 21:22 |
uschi |
if i have an author who is doing something in several part of the page tree? |
| 21:22 |
uschi |
then he/she will see all languages she is allowed to use |
| 21:22 |
bedlamhotel |
...and it doesn't have to be complex. Your language group could do NOTHING but give access to an additional filemount |
| 21:22 |
uschi |
filemount or dbmount? |
| 21:23 |
bedlamhotel |
Users can belong to multiple groups, and groups can be nested. The trick is to spend a little time designing the group structure. |
| 21:23 |
uschi |
why cannot i restrict it through pageTSConfig |
| 21:23 |
bedlamhotel |
uschi: sorry, dbmount. |
| 21:24 |
bedlamhotel |
Possibly you can--I know quite a bit less about TSconfig than about FE TS. |
| 21:25 |
uschi |
i suppose, i am to tired |
| 21:25 |
bedlamhotel |
Kind of looks like you can do this with TSconfig. |
| 21:25 |
bedlamhotel |
look for 'lang' |
| 21:25 |
bedlamhotel |
http://typo3.org/documentation/document-library/core-documentation/doc_core_tsconfig/1.0.0/view/1/2/ |
| 21:25 |
uschi |
i need the name of my ffriend |
| 21:25 |
bedlamhotel |
...under ->SETUP |
| 21:25 |
bedlamhotel |
? |
| 21:26 |
uschi |
thats user tsconfig |
| 21:26 |
bedlamhotel |
Yes. |
| 21:27 |
bedlamhotel |
You can set it on a per-group basis :) |
| 21:28 |
uschi |
i would like to have it on a page basis *sniff* |
| 21:29 |
bedlamhotel |
More information. What's the issue with doing it with dbmounts? |
| 21:29 |
uschi |
i do find this complicated |
| 21:29 |
uschi |
because if a user has two language groups |
| 21:30 |
uschi |
i have to setup a language group for every f.... portal then |
| 21:31 |
bedlamhotel |
But that's a one-time creation of 15 records, right? |
| 21:31 |
uschi |
and if a user has a dbmount twice, so i have read, he will see the dbmount twice in the pagetree |
| 21:31 |
bedlamhotel |
Seems to happen sometimes, yes. Not sure if that's an 'always happens' or a 'sometimes happens, noone knows why' |
| 21:32 |
uschi |
true, but as i told you, the university has tons of be users |
| 21:32 |
bedlamhotel |
but surely there are patterns of use that can be collected into groups? |
| 21:32 |
uschi |
i hope so, i will have to dig into that one as well |
| 21:32 |
bedlamhotel |
You know that groups can be nested, right? |
| 21:33 |
uschi |
i do |
| 21:33 |
uschi |
theoretically |
| 21:33 |
Denyerec |
ok ladies and gents |
| 21:33 |
Denyerec |
http://wla.systemcms.com/ |
| 21:33 |
bedlamhotel |
Do the use cases break cleanly along languages? |
| 21:33 |
Denyerec |
I am almost there :) |
| 21:33 |
Denyerec |
The text only link certainly sends you to textonly mode with the parameter "sz_mode" set to "text" |
| 21:34 |
bedlamhotel |
Wow. "Celebrating the best in Welsh Law" |
| 21:34 |
Denyerec |
but the menu links send you right back becuase the param is nor preserved |
| 21:34 |
Denyerec |
so presumably this is where linkvars comes in? |
| 21:35 |
uschi |
right |
| 21:35 |
Denyerec |
so if my parameter is sz_text I set config.linkvars = sz_text |
| 21:35 |
Denyerec |
? |
| 21:35 |
uschi |
yes |
| 21:35 |
bedlamhotel |
Denyerec: sorry to keep throwing new ideas out about how you might want to approach the thing, but have you thought of making a new LANGUAGE? |
| 21:35 |
uschi |
linkVars |
| 21:36 |
Denyerec |
Oh man Bedlam you don't wanna start me on localisation at this time of night :) |
| 21:36 |
Denyerec |
and I just wanna change thre stylesheet, not translate everything... :) |
| 21:37 |
bedlamhotel |
No, I don't want to do that, but there is a TON of overlap between localisation and what you're doing. |
| 21:38 |
Denyerec |
Yeah I figure that, using the Get vrs to select certain things from within the setup |
| 21:38 |
Denyerec |
such as translations from an XML file etc. |
| 21:38 |
Denyerec |
lets hope when I translate this sucker into Welsh that I'm comfortable with it ;) |
| 21:39 |
Denyerec |
Ok right :) |
| 21:39 |
Denyerec |
It's going to the text only |
| 21:39 |
Denyerec |
and it's staying there. |
| 21:40 |
Denyerec |
But getting it back OUT is not working, as linkVars means /text/ is now on every link, even the one that's supposed to exit text only mode. |
| 21:40 |
Denyerec |
So is it possible to make a typolink that's exempt from linkVars? |
| 21:40 |
Denyerec |
Further, what happens if I add linkVars in two places in the TS? Do they get appended to the list, or does it just use the last declaration ? |
| 21:40 |
uschi |
hm, i suppose, you need a means of switching back from textmode into normal mode |
| 21:41 |
bedlamhotel |
denyerec: unless you're using one of the new TS operators (":=" is the one I think), your second declaration will simply overwrite the first. |
| 21:41 |
Denyerec |
Ok bedlam, noted. |
| 21:41 |
uschi |
so once a user has chosen textmode, the textmode button should switch to normal mode |
| 21:42 |
Denyerec |
So I would need to be careful not to obliterate any language linkvar settings. |
| 21:42 |
Denyerec |
yes uschi |
| 21:42 |
Denyerec |
as you can see, I can change the parameter with a conditional :) |
| 21:42 |
Denyerec |
I mean, the text |
| 21:42 |
Denyerec |
but the typolink always gets linkvars stuck to it |
| 21:42 |
Denyerec |
Which is, kind of, the point. But... yeah. It would be like returning to the default language I suppose. |
| 21:43 |
Denyerec |
I suppose I could return to "gfx" mode /gfx/ and then have a conditional that says if the getvar is gfx, clear linkVars |
| 21:43 |
Denyerec |
so subsequent links are clear of parameters |
| 21:45 |
Denyerec |
Hmm, that didn't work. Damn is it stubborn. |
| 21:46 |
Denyerec |
OHHH BUgger! |
| 21:46 |
Denyerec |
Sorry uschi, sorry bedlamhotel :( |
| 21:46 |
Denyerec |
A typo :( |
| 21:46 |
uschi |
linkVars ??? |
| 21:46 |
bedlamhotel |
a typo or a typo3? |
| 21:47 |
uschi |
shit happens |
| 21:47 |
uschi |
i want go back to my book |
| 21:47 |
Denyerec |
I promise to leave both of you in peace. |
| 21:47 |
Denyerec |
Not peices :) |
| 21:47 |
uschi |
*L* |
| 21:48 |
bedlamhotel |
Denyerec: I'm probably far enough away to be safe, but thanks :) |
| 21:48 |
Denyerec |
Thanks guys, you're always so damn helpful, makes me feel useless :( |
| 21:48 |
Denyerec |
well, guys and girls :) |
| 21:48 |
bedlamhotel |
Indeed. |
| 21:49 |
bedlamhotel |
Typo3 is hard. No getting around it. |
| 21:49 |
uschi |
rubbish, Denyerec |
| 21:49 |
Denyerec |
You are too kind uschi, as always :P |
| 21:50 |
gerards |
I hate typo3... |
| 21:50 |
uschi |
it happens at times, gerards |
| 21:51 |
gerards |
i wish there were a GLOBALS['TSFE']->doWhatIMean(); function. |
| 21:51 |
uschi |
i suppose, now that i have set up my languages i have to try to produce some international pages, right? |
| 21:52 |
bedlamhotel |
Haven't you already done that uschi? I thought you were a seasoned um, 'localiser'. |
| 21:52 |
uschi |
not in this page |
| 21:53 |
uschi |
firefox crash, damn |
| 21:53 |
bedlamhotel |
gerards: I've thought of proposing the new ESP cObject. It would be easy to use because it wouldn't need any properties or datatypes... |
| 21:54 |
bedlamhotel |
...it would be difficult to implement in PHP though... |
| 21:54 |
gerards |
;) |
| 21:54 |
gerards |
DWIM() would suffice. |
| 21:54 |
bedlamhotel |
lib.foo = ESP and the entire site is finished... |
| 21:55 |
bedlamhotel |
Hey denyerec, are you still around? |
| 21:55 |
Denyerec |
JUST about to go afk |
| 21:55 |
Denyerec |
wassup ? |
| 21:56 |
bedlamhotel |
Another random thought: did you look at the print page example in FTB before starting this? |
| 21:56 |
Denyerec |
Yes I did |
| 21:56 |
bedlamhotel |
Ok good. |
| 21:56 |
uschi |
i am going to bed |
| 21:56 |
Denyerec |
I wasn't overly happy with the way it opened windows. |
| 21:56 |
Denyerec |
Wait |
| 21:56 |
Denyerec |
wrong tutorial |
| 21:56 |
uschi |
reading a book that has nothing to do with typo3 |
| 21:56 |
bedlamhotel |
Denyerec: absolutely no need for it to open windows... |
| 21:57 |
Denyerec |
Yes I did look at it, and yes you're quite right, it's exactly the same challenge pretty much, on a page by page basis. |
| 21:57 |
bedlamhotel |
uschi: brilliant idea. Scary. |
| 21:57 |
Denyerec |
I think I will revisit it actually. |
| 21:57 |
bedlamhotel |
denyerec, you know that you could use it along with a userfunc that set a cookie, right? |
| 21:57 |
Denyerec |
Now my text only mode is working, I think I need to pay a little more attention to where these links appear in the source. THey're "OK2" but they're not idea. |
| 21:57 |
Denyerec |
*ideal |
| 21:57 |
bedlamhotel |
(as a clunky method) |
| 21:57 |
Denyerec |
Ohhh, cookie userfunc |
| 21:57 |
Denyerec |
yes I saw that in the TSRef |
| 21:57 |
bedlamhotel |
did you? |
| 21:58 |
Denyerec |
Yeah |
| 21:58 |
bedlamhotel |
I was thinking of straight php |
| 21:58 |
Denyerec |
http://typo3.org/documentation/document-library/references/doc_core_tsref/4.0.0/view/14/1/ |
| 21:58 |
Denyerec |
there is an example of sorts ther. |
| 21:58 |
Denyerec |
e |
| 21:58 |
bedlamhotel |
right. I pointed you to that, didn't I? *L* |
| 21:58 |
Denyerec |
Indeed :) |
| 21:59 |
bedlamhotel |
Are you using that? |
| 21:59 |
bedlamhotel |
Weird. Now I'm repeating myself. |
| 22:00 |
Denyerec |
It's probably the only way you'll get me to remember things :) |
| 22:00 |
bedlamhotel |
Great. Now you'll never forget that I once asked you "Are you using that?" |
| 22:00 |
Denyerec |
No I'm not, I don't think it's necessary on this small site, it would be a good idea for a site with recurring visitors / fresh daily content etc |
| 22:00 |
Denyerec |
Hahaha |
| 22:01 |
bedlamhotel |
seems like a good little extension to write...almost zero php, and a lot of TS. Just my speed :) |
| 22:02 |
Denyerec |
I have a list of 3 extensions I would like to write. |
| 22:02 |
Denyerec |
I need to pick one and dive in :( |
| 22:02 |
bedlamhotel |
Whoops. Time to get out of here. Going to venture into the real world. If you don't hear from me, I've probably drowned in the rain... |
| 22:02 |
Denyerec |
:/ |
| 22:02 |
Denyerec |
Good luck, and thanks once again! |
| 22:02 |
bedlamhotel |
...or been washed into the ocean. NP. Hope the switcher comes together. |
| 22:02 |
gerards |
bedlamhotel: have a good weekend pal. |
