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00:52 davidpersson no ones saying anything
00:53 davidpersson zzzzzzz
00:53 davidpersson leave
02:12 Denyerec [00:54] <davidpersson> no ones saying anything
02:12 Denyerec [00:55] <davidpersson> zzzzzzz
02:12 Denyerec [00:55] <davidpersson> leave
02:12 Denyerec ??
02:12 Denyerec I never get that.
02:47 Rocketjock Hello Everyone
09:57 pulponair good morning
10:04 pulponair anyone ever played nintendo wii? i did yesterday great fun
10:29 pulponair uschi: are you arround?
10:29 uschi i am
10:29 uschi struggling with language stuff
10:29 uschi i am not sure, wether inheritance is the right solution for pages
10:30 uschi why are you asking pulponair ? good morning, by the way
10:30 uschi (_)> coffee for pulponair
10:32 pulponair uschi: yeah i really need some coffee ...suffering on a huge hangover
10:32 uschi dear, you are feeling like myself the day before yesterday
10:33 pulponair uschi: hehe
10:34 pulponair uschi: do you think we should publish our yesterdays font findings? i guees there are a lot of people out there tearing their hair about that issue
10:34 uschi trying to write down my experience with inheritance, currently
10:34 uschi sure
10:35 uschi but currently i am into this language stuff
10:35 uschi can we postpone this until next weekend, pulponair?
10:35 pulponair yeah sure ....
10:36 pulponair uschi: i got some time atm so i could start creating a disposition and you could add your big points whenever you got time
10:36 uschi because next week is the only time i can work together with one of my collegues (never able to spell that damned word correctly) and i would like to finish at least some of the lang stuff
10:37 uschi good idea :-))
10:37 pulponair uschi: colleague
10:37 uschi you could also put down some notes on your font conversion tools
10:37 uschi merci
10:37 pulponair nevermind i use to misspell it all the time ;)
10:38 pulponair ok so subject should be "The arcane world of t3 font rendering"
10:39 uschi *lol*
10:39 uschi make it GIFBUILDER font rendering
10:39 pulponair i like my proposal ;)
10:39 uschi this is the word people look for, don't you think so?
10:39 roelof hello, everybody
10:40 uschi hello roelof
10:40 pulponair "GIFBUILDER font rendering" - "The arcane world of t3 font rendering"
10:40 pulponair :)
10:40 uschi GIFBUILDER or the arcane world of t3 font rendering
10:40 pulponair uschi: great ;)
10:41 roelof i have a wierd problem, i have mapped a table-based layout and after mapping there are these extra </tr> </table> tags
10:41 roelof Who knows where they coming from and how to remove them ?
10:41 uschi pulponair, i am still unsure why you recommend inheritance for pages
10:41 pulponair uschi: because it is highly flexibel
10:42 uschi yes but highly confusing for editors as well
10:42 pulponair uschi:right
10:42 pulponair uschi: it this is an issue you should think about multitree
10:42 uschi plus: if i want one more element on a translated page, i am stuck
10:43 uschi hm, roelof, are you sure, your code is alright?
10:43 pulponair uschi: it is possible using hide default translation
10:43 uschi yeah i know, but only on page level
10:43 roelof yep, i can put it in phpfi , if you like ??
10:43 pulponair uschi: no also at ce level
10:44 uschi do so roelof
10:44 roelof http://phpfi.com/218978 is the orginal code
10:45 roelof the code with the wierd error you can see at http://typo3.tamarawobben.nl
10:45 pulponair reolof: its brocken
10:46 pulponair roelof: : note line 14
10:46 pulponair roelof: you did not close the outer table and tr
10:47 pulponair and td
10:47 uschi i cannot see any additional <tr>-elements in the output
10:47 pulponair :)
10:48 uschi tv did it for you, and it did the right thing
10:48 pulponair indeed
10:48 pulponair roelof: but you should fix your template in the first place
10:48 uschi tv cannot deal with elements not properly closed
10:49 roelof oke, the extra </tr> and </table> are correct. Now i have to puzzle why there is a extra line under the footer area :(
10:49 uschi what do you mean by extra line?
10:49 pulponair reolof: brocken templates result in strange effects so fix your template and review you site
10:49 uschi right
10:50 uschi i suppose, the unwanted line will be gone
10:50 roelof oke, and if that effect will be seen i will come back if a may
10:50 uschi you may :))
10:51 roelof thank you and hav a good weekend
10:51 uschi same to you, roelof
10:51 uschi and off he went
10:54 pulponair i have to get myself up and running again until 16:00 since i got a flat visiting this afternoon
10:54 uschi someone is visiting your flat?
10:55 pulponair oh no i am going to visit a flat
10:56 uschi want to move, then?
10:56 pulponair (the approx. 150 one)
10:56 pulponair uschi: yes right
10:56 uschi where are you living?
10:56 pulponair uschi: but flat prieces are kinda exploding
10:56 pulponair uschi: hamburg atm ...
10:57 uschi i know, my sister lives there as well, and they have been looking for a flat for two years now without success
10:57 uschi a nighmare
10:57 uschi +t
10:57 pulponair uschi: yes ...
10:57 pulponair uschi: i should consider buying one instead of renting
10:58 uschi i will be in hamburg at some time in april, shall we have coffee or beer or ...
10:58 uschi buy two, pls, and give one to my sister :-))
10:58 pulponair uschi: yeah a beer sounds great
10:58 uschi ok then
10:59 pulponair uschi: buying one would at least make the brookers flatter me
11:00 pulponair uschi: i curious: where exactly does your sister lives? i mean what district?
11:00 pulponair s/lives/live
11:00 uschi cannot remember, i am not into those districts
11:01 pulponair ok
11:01 pulponair i wouldnt be eigther ;)
11:01 uschi it is a nice district, and she does not like to leave it, but in the end she will have to
11:01 pulponair same over here
11:02 uschi pulponair, when you did this website with 35 languages, how did you organise it for your editors?
11:02 uschi have an orange or grapefruit
11:03 pulponair uschi:inheritation and lot of instruction
11:03 uschi impossible then for the university
11:03 pulponair uschi: a pickled hering
11:03 uschi might do as well, but what you really need is vitamin c
11:04 uschi and some salt
11:04 pulponair uschi: to be honest it wasnt that much instruction eighter ...just detailed manual and an hour or something
11:04 uschi perhaps you should have a tequila *g*
11:04 pulponair uschi: i got a half bottle of gin over here
11:04 uschi did you restrict the different editors to certain languages?
11:04 pulponair uschi: drinking it would at least solve the flat issue ;)
11:05 pulponair uschi: that is not possible due to a bug in tv you have to enable default language for all of them
11:05 pulponair uschi: took me hours to note that
11:05 uschi ok default language, but what about the rest of the languages?
11:06 pulponair uschi: defaultlanguage+ the particular editor language
11:06 pulponair uschi: since i got a russian editor a greek and so on
11:06 uschi why can i not do that via pageTSConfig *grumbles*
11:06 pulponair uschi: and they are responsible for their particular language
11:06 pulponair uschi: you can do it per user
11:07 uschi i do not want that
11:07 pulponair uschi: "restrict to language"
11:07 pulponair uschi: why?
11:07 uschi because in different parts of the page tree i need different language sets
11:08 pulponair uschi: so you could restrict the sys_language table to those particular languages
11:08 pulponair using TSCONFIG
11:09 uschi aah, page TSConfig, right?
11:09 uschi be a nice boy and explain it a little bit more
11:10 uschi where to look?
11:10 uschi example code, perhaps?
11:10 pulponair http://typo3.org/documentation/document-library/references/doc_core_tsconfig/4.0.0/view/1/3/
11:11 pulponair i havent tried it myself but afaik tsconfig can be used to restrict certain fields to a set of fixed values should also work for sys_language_uid
11:11 uschi i need the exact word please
11:13 pulponair TCEFORM.pages.sys_language_uid.removeItems=languages i do not need comma seperated or similar
11:14 pulponair as mentioned before i havent tried it myself so you need to fiddle arround a little
11:14 uschi ok, i shall try that one out
11:15 pulponair uschi: if it works you need to apply a similiar thing to tt_content
11:15 uschi sure, and tt_news and so on
11:15 uschi i have absolutely no idea about how to organise my be users
11:16 uschi i really do need professional advice here
11:16 pulponair uschi: depends on your needs :) so shot
11:17 uschi right
11:21 uschi perhaps i should postpone this and work on the language menu
11:21 uschi yours is interesting, but i need it to work without js
11:21 uschi means, i need a submit button
11:22 uschi and to know how to setup the appropriate action
11:22 uschi of the form
11:23 pulponair http://www.chaosbutze.de/fileadmin/l.png
11:23 pulponair fyi
11:23 pulponair looks funny does it? ;)
11:24 uschi it does
11:24 pulponair hi voidus
11:24 uschi morning voidus :-))
11:25 voidus hi pulponair and uschi :)
11:26 uschi pulponair, the point is, that with inheritance i have a tight connection between the original and the translated content elements, right?
11:27 pulponair not that much tight
11:27 pulponair but yes
11:27 uschi i am asking myself whether i need this for the university
11:28 pulponair yes right if not you dont need inheritation at all.
11:28 uschi only for stuff like images
11:28 pulponair depends
11:29 uschi sure, but in most cases images should be inherited, i suppose
11:29 pulponair you have to clearify if you need "translations" or seperate language sites
11:29 uschi depends on part of the pagetree
11:29 uschi it is a huge site, i need both, i suppose
11:30 pulponair so what about using inheritation for the common part and seperation for the language/country specific branches
11:32 uschi means different ds, right
11:33 roelof hello, everybody
11:33 uschi wb roelof
11:33 roelof problem still exsist, my new html file can be found at : http://phpfi.com/218997
11:33 uschi pulponair, will you be here tomorrow
11:34 pulponair uschi: i do not know for sure but probably yes
11:34 pulponair (like everyday)
11:34 uschi :-))
11:39 roelof is the file still broken ?
11:44 pulponair YEEaaahhh my helicopter was just delivered
11:47 uschi i suppose i will have to watch that podcast of kasper again
11:49 uschi roelof, can you give the output url again?
11:50 uschi seems to be a css problem to me
11:51 pulponair uschi: http://www.thinkgeek.com/geektoys/rc/8d19/
11:52 pulponair uschi: it just arrived :)
11:52 uschi you are a playboy, right, pulponair *g*
11:53 pulponair uschi: boys are always childs :)
11:55 roelof the output url is : http://typo3.tamarawobben.nl
11:56 kraftb hiho
11:56 pulponair hi kraftb
11:56 roelof the wierd is that if i open the html file from my disk the output is normal, in typo3 not :(
11:56 roelof hoi, kraftb
11:57 uschi morning kraftb :-))
11:58 kraftb anyone experiencing problems with the latest update of FF (2.0.0.3) and rtehtmlarea
11:58 kraftb hi pulp ...
11:58 kraftb hi uschi
11:58 kraftb hi roelof
11:58 pulponair kraftb: yes
11:58 uschi kraftb, i heard of the problem
11:58 kraftb rtehtmlarea yes ?
11:58 kraftb ok
11:58 uschi and a patch/fix something
11:58 uschi who was that yesterday
11:58 pulponair kraftb: browser detection fails ...there is a patch in the bugtracker
11:58 kraftb then not my "custom" modifications to the care are the cause *sweat*
11:58 kraftb to the core
11:59 uschi lucky you :)
11:59 kraftb editor has no properties
11:59 pulponair yes
11:59 kraftb was the message in the JS console
11:59 kraftb fine
11:59 pulponair its caused by the odd browser detection
11:59 kraftb this gives me some breath
12:00 uschi since you have your breath back now, can you answer one of my numerous questions, please
12:00 pulponair HTMLArea.is_wamcom = (HTMLArea.agt.indexOf("wamcom") != -1) || (HTMLArea.is_gecko && (HTMLArea.agt.indexOf("1.3") != -1));
12:00 pulponair catches firefox :)
12:00 pulponair 2.0.0.3
12:00 uschi there is that stdWrap extension of yours, that allows better access to TSFE-stuff
12:00 pulponair Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; de; rv:1.8.1.3) Gecko/20070309 Firefox/2.0.0.3
12:00 pulponair 1.3 :)
12:00 uschi do i still want this, using 4.1 or it is build in now, kraftb?
12:00 roelof uschi, do i have a css problem ?
12:01 uschi do not know yet, need some time to sort other stuff out first
12:02 kraftb ok .... they are talking about the problem in the core list ...
12:04 roelof oke, i will wait and will now feed a baby. be back on 15 to 20 minutes
12:06 uschi they really sell funny stuff on that page
12:06 pulponair uschi: yes
12:07 pulponair uschi: but i bought that helicopter in germany to avoid shipping and taxes
12:07 uschi hm, perhaps i should do that language menu first, then at least it will be easier to communicate to my colleagues what happens
12:08 kraftb damn ... i could have saved 3 precious hours yesterday just by looking at the core list or in here ...
12:08 kraftb damn
12:09 uschi if you had had a look into this room we would have prevented you from leaving, kraftb :))
12:10 kraftb i was too tired
12:10 kraftb we have laboratory now every tuesday and thursday ...
12:10 pulponair to tired for ircin ? ;)
12:10 kraftb and those guys i make a page now for are like some kind of drilling instructors :)
12:10 uschi he does not love us anymore, pulponair ;-)
12:11 kraftb no ... i wish i had more time
12:11 pulponair as always ;)
12:11 kraftb i already tought why a genious like me doesn't get financed by the state :)
12:11 kraftb :)
12:11 pulponair 24/7 arent actually enough ;)
12:11 uschi this is what i ask myself
12:12 uschi i wonder whether kraftb could write an extension that prolongues time
12:12 uschi even better than one that makes coffee
12:12 uschi we could do that by ourselves then
12:12 titii helo firends
12:12 kraftb prolongue means what ?
12:12 uschi verlängern
12:12 kraftb k
12:12 kraftb dict.leo.org doesn't know that word
12:13 kraftb pherhaps you send it in to them
12:13 uschi perhaps misspelled
12:13 kraftb i remeber it
12:13 pulponair actually it is spelled "prolong"
12:13 kraftb it was prolongue afair
12:13 kraftb i was just not sure about it
12:13 kraftb ok
12:13 kraftb prolonged
12:13 pulponair but i would use "stretch"
12:13 pulponair :)
12:13 uschi so can you write such an extension for us?
12:14 uschi we shall ask bedlam or denyerec when they come in, ok?
12:14 pulponair unfortunatly the universe doesnt provides any hooks ;)
12:14 uschi could not we xclass it?
12:14 kraftb pherhaps one that minimizes unnecessary repeated actions such as copying TS, eating, going to the toilet
12:14 uschi *L*
12:15 kraftb pulp: do not say that about universe and hooks
12:15 pulponair kraftb: ok i have to rephrase "no official hooks"
12:15 pulponair kraftb: but there are some "eastereggs"
12:15 kraftb when somebody tought about using extending water steam as source of energy he also just used some kind of hook ... ok it was a piston and cylinder ... but that is another story
12:16 kraftb and firing neturons on electrons is also some nice "feature" reality allows
12:16 uschi becoming a philosopher now, our kraftb
12:16 kraftb neutrons on nuclei
12:16 kraftb not on electrons .... electrons are silly
12:17 pulponair kraftb: : and nobody knows how they spend their freetime ;)
12:17 kraftb I once decided that I will not pay my bill at the energy-company as long as they do not tell me what they deliver: particles or waves
12:17 kraftb :)
12:17 pulponair kraftb: :slices
12:18 kraftb so they decided to let me pay for that rotating thing outside where the power comes in ... they call it watt-counter
12:18 kraftb i guess it's all particles ... we would just need a camera with a resolution higher than reality :)
12:18 kraftb this was in futurama something - but just a TV
12:19 uschi kraftb, can you answer a serious question, perhaps?
12:19 kraftb so light are particle waves - or streams .... and matter are particle "clumps"
12:20 kraftb go on ....
12:20 uschi if i want a langmenu as select-list without javascript, what do i need as action-attribute for my form
12:20 pulponair current pageid + L
12:20 pulponair (wihtout realurl)
12:20 kraftb hmmm ....
12:20 kraftb well ... you can just transmit one value
12:21 kraftb without JS
12:21 kraftb and that should be the page-id
12:21 uschi L will be their automatically or not, if i have <select name="L">
12:21 kraftb well .. if you have selectboxes for L and id it should work
12:21 kraftb the other should be;: <select name="id">
12:21 pulponair <form action=index?id={page:id}>...select name="L" ....<input type=submit...
12:22 kraftb no
12:22 kraftb <form action="index.php"><select name="id">....<select name="L">
12:23 uschi why should i have 2 <select>-lists?
12:23 pulponair kraftb: i guess she just want to change the language
12:23 kraftb uschi: L will be their automatically or not, if i have <select name="L">
12:23 uschi the user shall be guided to the same page with a different language
12:23 kraftb ahh ...
12:23 kraftb langmenu ... sorry
12:23 pulponair so i was right :)
12:23 kraftb ok ... then like pulp wrote
12:23 uschi thx
12:24 uschi and id={page:id} will automatically be replaced, right?
12:24 titii helo friends
12:24 uschi hello titii
12:24 pulponair yes
12:24 pulponair insertData=1
12:24 uschi ok
12:25 kraftb or .dataWrap = <form
12:25 uschi ok, understood
12:25 pulponair but beware: you have to take care of extension getvars ....e.g. news id etc
12:25 titii can anybody help how to do user FE administration? for example i need some virtual shopping for registered users and administration of it
12:25 uschi next related question: can i somehow find out the current display language?
12:25 kraftb .data = TSFE:sys_language_content
12:26 uschi merci :-))
12:26 kraftb where sys_language_content is the uid of the language used for the content
12:26 kraftb and sys_language_uid would be the uid the generated page is in
12:26 titii registered users can also create create virtual shop can anybody help if is there some extension or any v. shop for implement to typo3?
12:26 kraftb notice that those two can be different in special cases
12:26 uschi yes
12:27 titii uschi you answer to me? or not
12:27 uschi have to note that down, and get it to work then
12:27 uschi i am not into fe user administration, so i cannot help you, titii, sorry
12:28 roelof im back :)
12:28 Sunhco hey everybody
12:28 Sunhco I have a stupid question
12:28 titii uschi ok thank you
12:28 roelof hoi, Sunhco
12:29 Suncho how do I add links in the RTE?
12:29 Suncho there's a link button at the top, but it's grayed out
12:29 uschi kraftb, is there a TSFE for the language required by the user as well?
12:30 Suncho and I tried using the <link> tag, but it interprets it literally with greater than and less than signs
12:30 uschi Suncho, just click on the link-icon and build your links
12:31 Suncho the link icon is grayed out
12:31 uschi other then that it has to be <a inside rte
12:31 uschi you have to select the text first
12:31 uschi other than that i do not know
12:33 Suncho oh ok
12:33 Suncho ha
12:33 Suncho why didn't I think of that?
12:34 Suncho thank you uschi
12:34 kraftb .data = GPvar:L ???
12:34 uschi no prob
12:35 uschi hm, could be, kraftb
12:35 kraftb also set when realurl gets used
12:35 uschi why is this language stuff so complicated, my mind is really twisted by now
12:38 roelof is still waiting for a answer
12:39 uschi poor roelof, i know, but if i have the chance to ask kraftb a question and the answer will save several hours for me, that comes first
12:39 uschi but i am finished with asking now, roloef, so i can come back to your prob
12:40 uschi may i have the output url again, roelof ?
12:41 uschi roelof ????
12:41 roelof output url : http://typo3.tamarawobben.nl
12:42 roelof sorry, i was busy with PSP
12:44 pulponair roelof: : is that you? ;)
12:45 pulponair roelef: nice haircut ;)
12:45 uschi *L*
12:45 roelof the photo, no that's my daugther of 1 and a half year
12:48 uschi roelof
12:49 uschi try to give the background image to the inner table
12:50 roelof oke
12:51 roelof can this be why typo breaks the layout and without typo the layout will be good ?
12:51 uschi hm, let me check again
12:52 roelof and which image you talking about, only the header is as far as i can see in the outer table
12:53 uschi i mean the background-image of table id="container"
12:53 roelof oke, i will look
12:54 uschi roelof, it could be, that somehow the typo3 made css interferes with yours
12:56 roelof oke, i will look also to that
12:56 roelof bu where can i find that css ??
12:56 uschi trying to find the solution
12:57 roelof i have transfer the background-image to the second table.
12:57 roelof I will ftp that and will look into typo3
12:58 uschi roelof, i have to be off
12:59 uschi for a while
12:59 roelof oke, i will eat also my lunch
12:59 Irix_1 pulponair Hey :) I have tried now for a day to find eksact examples how to withdraw data from Typo3 into external php script.. It all just made it worse..hehe..
13:00 pulponair Irix_1: hehe
13:00 Irix_1 so is there anyone who have a url with examples on using data from Typo3 in a external php script. . ;)
13:01 pulponair Irix_1: install the kickstarter extension and start over :)
13:01 roelof Uschi, it works now well, i put the background-image to the second table and everything is good
13:01 roelof youre my hero
13:03 Irix_1 pulponair :) Its just that I would like to see some examples on using it.. because the tutorials with kickstarter extension is giving so much info that it seems confusing..
13:03 Irix_1 pulponair I will try press the reset button.. and try again.. hehe
14:26 tchang hi all
14:27 tchang I'm trying to display the page subtitle in a Typoscript, if the subtitle is blank then the title should be displayed
14:28 tchang I've found this in the documentation : lib.page.title = TEXT lib.page.title.field = subtitle // title
14:28 tchang but it doesn't work with me...
14:29 robv_ Hmm
14:29 tchang actually even lib.page.title = TEXT lib.page.title.field = title doesn't work...
14:29 robv Can't help
14:29 robv Sorry
14:29 tchang is there any secret option I should enable ?
14:29 tchang like insertData or something ?
14:29 gerards tchang: lib.anything will never work.
14:30 gerards its just a library.
14:30 gerards tchang: i don't exactly remember, but try page.title = TEXT
14:30 gerards page.title.field = title
14:30 robv This is what you did?
14:30 robv http://lists.netfielders.de/pipermail/typo3-english/2005-February/000714.html
14:31 robv You use templavoila?
14:31 tchang but I want to display this in a typoscript object I have mapped in Templavoila
14:31 tchang I used this before
14:31 tchang and this works
14:31 tchang but now I need to display the subtitle or title if subtitle is blank
14:32 robv Did you see the link i posted?
14:32 tchang yes
14:32 robv Does fixed text work for you too?
14:33 tchang lib.pageTitle.value = {page:title}
14:33 tchang i used this before and it worked
14:33 tchang but how can I display the subtitle ?
14:34 tchang and the title if subtitle is blank
14:35 tchang gerards: does this mean that we can't use the property "field" for templavoila typoscript object ?
14:35 gerards lib.pageTitle should NOT work.
14:36 robv http://www.typo3forum.net/forum/typo3-4-x-fragen-und-probleme/4519-rubrikabhaengiger-header-text.html
14:36 robv Does that help?
14:36 gerards and to display title if subtitle is blank do this page.Title.field = subtitle//title
14:36 gerards I really don't remember my syntax, please check up tsref tchang.
14:37 tchang gerards: this won't display the title/subtitle in the place I've mapped
14:38 gerards oh? what is the name of your TSOP?
14:38 gerards typoscript object path?
14:38 tchang lib.page.title
14:39 gerards er...
14:39 gerards shucks...
14:39 tchang hum, maybe lib.page is not a good name...
14:40 gerards i'm not sure, but can you try renaming the TSOP to something else?
14:40 gerards :)
14:40 gerards yeah.
14:40 tchang ;)
14:40 gerards don't use lib please. I'm not sure what that will do.
14:40 tchang I'll try this
14:41 tchang but in templavoila, when you create a TSOP, the system give you lib.myobject as the name
14:41 tchang I thought I was supposed to replace only the myobject part
14:43 gerards hmmmm.... yeah. i might be wrong of course, but please use another name, just to test the theory?
14:43 gerards I'd really appreciate it.
14:43 tchang that's what I'm doing
14:51 tchang gerards: I used temp instead of lib
14:52 gerards no don't use temp either :)
14:52 tchang lol
14:52 tchang so what should I use ?
14:52 gerards just put gerards
14:52 gerards ;)
14:56 JaXtreme hi there
14:56 tchang hi
14:56 tchang gerards: so now tchang.pageTitle = TEXT tchang.pageTitle.value = test display test
14:56 tchang tchang.pageTitle = TEXT tchang.pageTitle.field = title
14:56 tchang display nothing
14:56 gerards tchang.pageTitle is your tsop?
14:56 tchang yes
14:57 JaXtreme tchang maybe tchang.pageTitle.insertData = 1?
14:57 gerards does the rest of your template show up?
14:57 tchang is tchang also a reserved word ?
14:57 tchang yes
14:57 gerards tchang can you do this, tchang.pageTitle = TEXT
14:58 gerards tchang.pageTitle.value = gerard isn't as bright as he thinks.
14:58 gerards we just want to test if the mapping works.
14:58 tchang JaXtreme: still nothing
14:58 gerards JaXtreme: i think insertData will only work if you put {page:title} in your value.
14:58 tchang mapping is ok, i wrote tchang.pageTitle = TEXT tchang.pageTitle.value = test
14:58 JaXtreme gerards ur right
14:59 gerards ah!
14:59 gerards :)
14:59 gerards do this.
14:59 JaXtreme or: tchang.pageTitle.data = field : title
14:59 gerards tchang.pageTitle.data = page:title
15:00 JaXtreme yeah
15:00 JaXtreme right
15:00 tchang ;)
15:00 tchang that show the title
15:00 JaXtreme getTexttchang.pageTitle
15:00 JaXtreme sry... wrong btn
15:01 gerards tchang which title do you want to show ?
15:01 tchang now for the subtitle part ? (switch between subtitle and title)
15:01 tchang the original plan was to do
15:01 gerards data = page:subtitle //page:title
15:01 gerards data = page:subtitle //page:title will show title if subtitle is empty.
15:02 tchang ok that works
15:02 tchang thanks
15:03 tchang so if I understand well, I don't have to use the lib. prefix in the TSOP
15:03 gerards well i wasn't sure. that's why i ask you to try it. I never use lib.xxx
15:03 tchang what is the difference between lib.pageTitle and tchang.pageTitle
15:04 gerards like i said, i wasn't sure.
15:04 tchang well
15:04 tchang anyway this works
15:04 tchang I won't use lib.xxx unless I need to
15:04 gerards i do know that lib is like a library. so a TSOP doesn't conceptually fit in lib.xxx
15:05 tchang yes but the default value of tsop is lib.myobject
15:06 gerards i know. ;)
15:06 tchang ;)
15:06 tchang Thanks for your help
15:06 gerards maybe tv does store the tsop in a library. then uses it internally as a library object.
15:06 gerards but since that's invisible to me, i don't think of it that way.
15:07 gerards anytime.
15:10 Rocketjock morning all
15:11 gerards hi Rocketjock
15:12 Rocketjock morning gerards :)
15:12 gerards what time is it where you are?
15:12 gerards sholdn't it be like just past noon?
15:12 Rocketjock gerards: 9:14 am
15:12 Rocketjock gerards: you?
15:12 gerards 1015. same as ries.
15:13 roelof hello, i have this TS ( http://phpfi.com/219085) for the title and the date, but it doesn't work. The titel and date does not appear where i want it
15:13 roelof what does i have done wrong ?
15:13 gerards Rocketjock: I'm having some problems remembering what the plugin is called, where you can insert a ts object in the TV page module.....
15:14 gerards roelof: where DOES it appear? :)
15:15 JaXtreme gerards u mean tscobj? Content Element From TypoScript
15:15 roelof moment, i make another phpfi
15:15 Rocketjock gerards: hhhmmm... templavoila_pagemod maybe
15:16 gerards JaXtreme: that's it. found it already. but thanks! i'm SO getting old...
15:16 JaXtreme welcome in club
15:17 roelof gerards, look at http://phpfi.com/219087 and you can see what happen
15:18 gerards lib.titel = TEXT
15:18 gerards lib.titel.value = gerards is getting old
15:19 tchang roelof: you can try this http://phpfi.com/219090
15:21 roelof tchang , your TS works , only its get the date of today, not the date i put in the date box
15:21 Rocketjock dang ... godaddy is slow updating my DNS changes :(
15:22 gerards how long has it been Rocketjock?
15:22 Rocketjock gerards: 36 hrs
15:22 gerards whew!
15:22 gerards is that really godaddy's fault?
15:23 Rocketjock gerards: it shows on thier site as being changed.....not sure whos fault...
15:23 gerards or just the other authoritative servers are just slow to pick up?
15:23 gerards all my life i use dyndns. so i'mnot sure about godaddy. i hear go dad is pretty good.
15:23 Rocketjock gerards:true... but they are usually faster then this
15:24 gerards yeah. max for me is like 12 hours.
15:24 Rocketjock gerards: I like them... easy interface to use
15:25 gerards but then all i do is change IP. so maybe your chages are more 'heavy duty' (I've no idea what heavy duty means...)
15:25 tchang roelof: you want to display a date from a form ?
15:25 Rocketjock gerards: you use dyndns as a dynamic dns or to purchase domain nas through?
15:25 gerards purchase domain normally.
15:26 gerards yes always I purchase my domains from them.
15:27 gerards << silly dojo website is taking forever to load... >>
15:27 gerards << and eating up my memory at the same time... >>
15:28 Rocketjock brb ... time to eat
15:31 roelof yep, i want to display the date i put in the header area
15:31 just2b hello
15:32 gerards hi just2b
15:32 just2b hi gerards
15:33 tchang roelof: you mean in the back end ?
15:35 roelof yep, i mean when you make a page , you must typ a header, there you can find more options
15:36 roelof with page in mean page content
15:43 j0hndeere Good morning, earthlings.
15:44 tchang roelof: I don't know for that
15:45 roelof pity, but may thanks for the effort
15:45 tchang maybe you can check the tsref : Datatype reference
15:49 bedlamhotel roelof: what is it that you're trying to do?
15:50 roelof what im trying to do is to show the date i put into the date field of the header in a particular place in the website
15:50 gerards hi j0hndeere, bedlamhotel. didn't see you guys around.
15:50 roelof but i don't know how i can do that with Typoscript
15:52 bedlamhotel bonjour gerards.
15:52 bedlamhotel roelof: 2 steps. First, you need to retrieve the value of the database field...
15:53 bedlamhotel then, you need to transform it into something readable (since, i.e. TYPO3 stores dates as datestamps).
15:54 roelof oke, and where can i find how to do that, it looks very difficult
15:54 bedlamhotel roelof: before any of that though, you need to /identify/ the field in the database. Where are you entering this date.
15:54 bedlamhotel ?
15:56 roelof i entering that date in the pagecontent - header - more options - date , bedlamhotel
16:00 bedlamhotel roelof: that could be tricky. Are there multiple content elements on the page?
16:01 bedlamhotel ...and do you want to show the date for each of them?
16:01 bedlamhotel ...or just for one of them?
16:02 roelof moment
16:09 roelof i have about 5 content elements, four of them are typoscript object path and one of them is a content elements
16:09 roelof the date is a typoscript element path element
16:10 bedlamhotel Oh, that's easy then. The TS tchang gave you way back needs only a very slight modification then.
16:11 roelof that's my luck this time
16:12 tchang yeah I finally helped someone ! I'm an expert now ;)
16:12 j0hndeere hrmmm
16:13 j0hndeere anyone know if there's a fix for the latest version of firefox nuking the RTE
16:13 roelof can you tell me what i have to change, bedlamhotel ?
16:13 j0hndeere having to use internet exploiter would make me sad
16:13 bedlamhotel hang on a sec roelof.
16:15 bedlamhotel roelof: http://phpfi.com/219112
16:16 bedlamhotel j0hndeere: search the English and Dev lists. There's a link to a new bug in the bugtracker that shows the exact problem.
16:18 j0hndeere Thank you kindly.
16:18 roelof hmm, i see now the date 01-01-1970 instead of 01-02-2005, bedlamhotel
16:19 roelof what do you mean with fieldname, i thougt lib.datum but i think thats wrong
16:20 bedlamhotel roelof: if you see the 1970 date, it means a) that the fieldname you used did not exist, or that its value was 0
16:20 bedlamhotel roelof: this is a templavoila object, right?
16:21 roelof yep, and in the template i named it datum
16:22 bedlamhotel Name is irrelevant. What is the field name in TV?
16:22 bedlamhotel i.e. what is the contents of the 'field' column of the relevant element as shown in this screenshot?
16:22 bedlamhotel http://typo3.org/typo3temp/tx_terdoc/documentscache/d/o/doc_tut_ftb1-1.0.1/docbook/pictures/1000000000000201000000C7BCCBB594.png
16:24 roelof he, in that screen i do not see the field column
16:24 roelof but i think i called it field_datum
16:31 roelof sorry, i have to stop, i have to do some shopping
16:32 roelof everyone many thanks and i will come back in the evening, then i have some time
16:34 gerards tv can be a little confusing. I remember my confusion...
16:38 uschi morning bedlamhotel and gerards :-))
16:38 bedlamhotel Hello uschi.
16:38 uschi and koomi
16:39 uschi just reading gerards remark about tv being confusing
16:39 uschi this is entirely true
16:42 gerards hi uschi. man.... everyone is here on a saturday...
16:42 uschi yes, gerards, i am not a professional webprogrammer, but a professional latin teacher
16:43 uschi besides, i am still a woman ;-)
16:44 gerards teaching latin... goodness.
16:48 tchang actually I think typo3 is a little confusing
16:48 tchang very powerful tool
16:48 tchang but complex...
16:50 uschi right tchang ...
16:51 j0hndeere TYPO3 will one day achieve world domination, so I decided to get in early.
16:53 bedlamhotel All your base are belong to TYPO3
16:53 gerards ALL YOUR BASE ARE BELONG TO TYPO3!
16:53 gerards HAHAHAH!
16:53 gerards man i haven't heard that for so long...
16:53 gerards you're my hero bedlamhotel. shows how old we are...
16:54 bedlamhotel Oops :)
16:55 gerards i saw a t-shirt once "all your base are belong to us". I wonder where I can buy that...
16:55 j0hndeere you might be referring to the poetic T-shirt that says "roses are red / violets are blue / all of my base / are belong to you"
16:56 gerards no i just saw a white t-shirt with all your base are belong to us in the front in small black letters.
16:56 gerards so cool.
16:57 j0hndeere SOMEBODY SET UP US THE BOMB.
16:59 gerards all your base are belong to us....
17:04 bedlamhotel not quite the tshirt you were looking for gerards, but: http://www.cafepress.com/zebenet.795134
17:07 gerards sweet.
17:07 gerards we should make a typo3 t-shirt.
17:07 gerards "all your base are belong to typo3.org"
17:08 bedlamhotel *L* Yes. Maybe catchier than 'get.content.right'
17:08 gerards yeah... make Mambo jealous. "we shold have thought of that first!"
17:11 j0hndeere or start kasparfacts.com
17:19 tchang one more question, I need to put a search form on each page
17:19 tchang I've found this http://www.typo3wizard.com/en/snippets/cool-stuff-typoscript/ts-based-searchbox-for-indexed-search.html
17:19 tchang which add the search form but I don't have any result displayed
17:25 tchang the question is how can I add a search box in every page of my site
17:33 roelof bedlamhotel, i found that the fieldname of that field is field_datum
17:34 roelof but is a do lib.datum.field = field_datum nothing changes
18:03 pulponair re
18:15 tchang I found a solution with macina_searchbox
18:16 tchang but I still don't have the search result displayed
18:16 tchang does anyone use this plugin ?
18:18 tchang here is the typoscript I use
18:18 tchang http://phpfi.com/219163
18:25 uschi hey pulponair, what about the flat?
18:27 uschi pulponair, do you know where special = language menu gets the names of the languages from?
18:27 pulponair uschi: 120qm 4 rooms 1200 bucks incl. ....quite ok but for some reasons i didnt like it ...;)
18:27 pulponair uschi: yes you have to specify them by hand
18:27 uschi the reasons were just feeling?
18:28 pulponair yes ..important thing in this context
18:28 uschi i would like to select the appropriate value from static_info_tables
18:28 uschi and show the language names in the language itself
18:28 uschi any idea how to achieve that?
18:28 pulponair uschi: not that easy
18:29 uschi but possible, right?
18:29 pulponair uschi:yes i case of doubt via php ;)
18:29 uschi i would like to avoid that
18:30 uschi can i not do simple select?
18:30 uschi it reads out the system languages, right?
18:30 uschi sys_languages, that is
18:31 pulponair hmm
18:33 uschi hmm?
18:34 pulponair i would just use option split
18:34 uschi bad idea, because the value changes from portal to portal
18:35 uschi then a locallang file with the language names might be better
18:36 uschi but all the values are in static_languages already
18:37 pulponair uschi: yes i know it is a little odd that t3 doesnt support stuff like that out of the box
18:38 uschi but there is the select function
18:38 pulponair uschi: but afaik there are some extensions out there
18:38 uschi so i could produce a CASE
18:38 pulponair uschi: yes
18:38 uschi yes, but they do the select list with js
18:38 uschi and no way out, as for example with sr_langmenu or whatever it is called
18:39 pulponair uschi: hack it ;)
18:39 uschi there is something wrong with the language management in t3
18:39 pulponair yes :)
18:40 uschi and that is, that it does not use the iso-code all the way through
18:42 HSYN contentGetNormal = select
18:42 HSYN contentGetNormal {
18:42 HSYN where = colPos = CONTENT_COLPOS_NORMAL
18:42 HSYN orderBy = sorting
18:42 HSYN languageField = sys_language_uid
18:42 HSYN }
18:42 HSYN content_normal = CONTENT
18:42 HSYN content_normal {
18:42 HSYN table = tt_content
18:42 HSYN select = contentGetNormal
18:42 HSYN }
18:42 HSYN WHERE IS THE FAULT?
18:42 uschi paste such stuff to phpfi
18:43 HSYN what is phpfi?
18:43 tchang http://phpfi.com
18:43 uschi a place, where you can paste code
18:43 uschi and then give us the url here
18:44 uschi i do not have a clue what might be wrong, but what is the result, HSYN ?
18:44 HSYN but this is TYPO3SCRIPT
18:44 uschi does not matter
18:44 uschi it is stable there, and here the code will go in half a minute
18:45 uschi believe me, we are all good guys and girls and post code there
18:47 pulponair yeah, especially i am a good guy ;)
18:47 uschi yes, my dear, you are
18:51 uschi by the way, my sister lives in St. Pauli, pulponair
18:51 pulponair uschi: so do i
18:51 pulponair :)
18:51 HSYN ok look at this
18:51 HSYN http://phpfi.com/219179
18:58 roelof hello, everybody
18:59 HSYN uschi: what about a response :)
18:59 roelof who knows how can use the header-date in a TV template ?
19:01 uschi via a TypoScriptObjectPath as edit type, roelof
19:02 uschi HSYN, what goes wrong?
19:02 HSYN i get no content output
19:02 uschi no rows, or what?
19:02 HSYN yes nothing
19:02 HSYN but there is one
19:03 uschi ah, wait
19:03 uschi perhaps you should say something like
19:03 roelof oke, i us that, but if i do lib.datum = {field : date} i get the date of today and not the date i put into the header-date box , Uschi :(
19:03 roelof and lib.datum = date is also wrong
19:03 uschi select < contentGetNormal
19:04 uschi you have to copy your select object, not = but <
19:04 uschi perhaps the header date box has a different fieldname?
19:05 uschi lib.datum = TEXT
19:05 uschi lib.datum.data.field = date
19:05 roelof the fieldname i used with the mapping is field_datum , but when i do lib.datum = lib.datum no luck
19:05 uschi i check in my ts, roelof, wait
19:06 roelof oke, thank you, uschi
19:09 uschi roelof, the field really is date, no doubt about that
19:10 roelof oke, if i understand it righti must say : lib.datum = DATE , uschi ?
19:10 uschi no, you have to put in the right object path into your tv template
19:10 uschi it has to say lib.datum
19:11 uschi then in your ts-template
19:11 uschi lib.datum = TEXT
19:11 uschi lib.datum.field = date
19:11 uschi lib.datum.field.if.isTrue.field = date
19:11 uschi date = d.m.Y (or whatever format you want)
19:12 uschi lib.datum.date = d.m.Y i mean
19:12 uschi get me, roelof?
19:13 roelof oke, i will try that
19:14 roelof wierd, i still get as date 01-01-1970 instead of 01-02-2005
19:14 uschi aaah, wait
19:16 uschi no, by the way, you have filled in the date field, right?
19:16 uschi sorry, roelof, i am running short of time for today
19:16 uschi i have to finish this bloody language menu
19:17 HSYN how do i use the value of a constant in typo script
19:17 roelof i filled in the field which can be found in the header field and then more options , uschi
19:18 roelof but i have to work at my taxes, so i will ask later
19:18 roelof thank you for yoiur help, uschi
19:18 uschi sorry, that i could not solve your problem
19:18 roelof it allright
19:18 roelof havea good evening
19:18 uschi merci
19:38 uschi pulponair? i am stuck *sniff*
19:38 pulponair regarding the langmenu?
19:39 uschi yes, i do not know where to get in to set up my CASE object
19:39 uschi look, in special.value = 0,3,7,8
19:40 uschi and now according to that value i need to do something
19:40 uschi understand what i mean?
19:44 pulponair http://rowi.standardleitweg.de/archives/405-PicooZ-Tuning.html
19:45 uschi our little one is playing with it's new helicopter
19:46 pulponair yeah
19:47 uschi no idea about my prob? apart from option split?
19:51 uschi this really sucks
19:51 bedlamhotel uschi: what's the new issue?
19:52 uschi this time the langmenu
19:52 uschi the special.value value changes from portal to portal
19:52 uschi furthermore i would like to use the native name of a language from table static_languages
19:53 uschi i want the menu to be a select list
19:53 uschi and now, i need a way to say:
19:54 uschi special.value = 3,7,12
19:54 uschi if we are on 3 do this, if we are on 7 do this and so on
19:54 uschi optionsplit is not a solution in my case, because the list of languages varies from portal to portal
19:55 uschi get what i mean, bedlamhotel ?
19:55 uschi i want one language menu that works all the time
19:55 bedlamhotel Sort of.
19:56 uschi any idea?
19:57 bedlamhotel Don't know a lot about the language menu. .special.value = 3,7,12 seems un-problematic...what exactly gives you trouble?
19:57 uschi because, let us say, 3 = spanish
19:57 bedlamhotel Ok.
19:58 uschi means, i have to say, if the value you are working on is 3 do this
19:58 uschi and if it is 11, do this
19:58 uschi in a more global way then this is possible with optionsplit
20:00 bedlamhotel But hang on: I /what/ has to be different? Is this part of the language menu that you mean?
20:00 andreasbalzer hi all together!
20:00 uschi i would like to access static_languages to get out the native name of the language
20:00 uschi and i want a flag
20:01 bedlamhotel uschi: fine, but are you trying to vary aspects of the language menu, or some other TS object?
20:02 uschi i show you the template: http://uni1.ttypista.datenwolken.net/index.php?id=482&L=4
20:02 uschi the language menu
20:03 uschi all examples i find work with option split for the <option value="1">name of the language</option>
20:03 uschi so my problem is: a) how to get the native name of the language
20:03 bedlamhotel *LOL* For a moment, I thought your language menu had called me 'dummy'....
20:03 uschi b) how to get the flag into it
20:03 uschi without option split
20:04 uschi but with a CASE
20:04 uschi not even my langmenu would call you dummy, bedlamhotel
20:05 uschi mind you, i woul like to set up this case thing only once
20:05 uschi for all of my 20 languages, regardless where they are used in the page
20:06 bedlamhotel uschi: well, in concert with NO.doNotShowLink = 1, it's easy enough to set up a CASE in the NO/ACT/CUR object...
20:06 uschi hmmmmmm
20:06 HSYN how do i comment a t3script line?
20:06 uschi but how to get the value of the case
20:07 uschi with # or // or /*comment*/
20:07 HSYN uschi: thx
20:08 uschi this time i could answer, HSYN
20:08 uschi ok, but still, how should the CASE look like
20:08 HSYN uschi: no u are great
20:08 HSYN ;)
20:08 bedlamhotel well, CASE's .key property uses the value of a database field, so you need to figure out what bit of data in the db is relevant to the decisions you need to make.
20:08 uschi which var i am checking against
20:09 uschi it is the value of the list thing
20:09 uschi value = 2,7,11
20:09 uschi CASE 2
20:09 uschi do this
20:09 uschi CASE 7
20:09 bedlamhotel That is not the contents of a database field or similar.
20:09 uschi right, that IS my problem
20:10 uschi this is why i do not get into it
20:11 bedlamhotel uschi: I think this is effectively the same problem we discussed the other day.
20:11 uschi which one?
20:11 uschi there were so many
20:11 bedlamhotel when we discussed CASE before :)
20:11 uschi could you be so kind and explain it again?
20:12 uschi obviously i missed something
20:12 bedlamhotel Hang on, we didn't actually /solve/ the problem then :)
20:13 uschi hm
20:13 uschi shall this be a consolation for me?
20:14 bedlamhotel But what I was going to say is that you /must/ find a way to get information into the database that somehow mirrors the relevant structure of the site you're working on.
20:14 uschi in this case it would be easy
20:14 bedlamhotel Otherwise, there is no way to even start solving the problem in a consistent or simple way.
20:15 bedlamhotel This is a bit of a wild guess, but both problems seemed to have to do with portal pages.
20:15 uschi i only need to know how to identify the value 2
20:15 uschi no, i do not think so
20:15 bedlamhotel Oh, ok.
20:15 uschi the other day it was the simple fact, that entryLevel had no stdWrap
20:16 uschi which it has now
20:16 uschi through tobis extension, so that problem is definitely solved
20:18 bedlamhotel Yes, but it sounds like you're trying to go straight to the TS /before/ identifying the actual logical approach to solving the problem.
20:18 uschi no, not true
20:18 uschi the logical problem is quite clear (at least to me)
20:19 bedlamhotel Ok then. You need to make it clearer in here, because I have no idea what you are trying to do :)
20:20 uschi see my pm?
21:28 brain-xy hello all
21:30 brain-xy does somebody know how i could perform this line tt_content.stdWrap.innerWrap for just the right column?
21:58 tchang Indexed Search Engine is bundled with Typo3 4.0.4 or it must be installed separately ?
22:16 tchang ok I've found the answer...
22:16 tchang Mastering Typoscript is really a good book ;)
22:51 tchang so now I've installed Indexed Search but the results appears in english
22:52 tchang my website has french, dutch and german language
22:52 tchang how can I change the language ?
23:07 HSYN hi again
23:08 HSYN how do i get the content in ts
23:09 HSYN actual content in actual language
23:09 HSYN only read it
23:39 alaindro223 Hi I am getting a very strage issue with typo3 4.1 when i enter say $50,000 in the backend and then save it and view in the front end it shows as ,000
23:39 alaindro223 and ideas please
23:41 brain-xy alaindro223 .. in the rte?
23:41 alaindro223 yes
23:41 alaindro223 htmlarea is the plugin im using
23:41 brain-xy tchang .. did you import the languages via the EM?
23:42 tchang brain-xy : yes
23:42 brain-xy hm.. never had this problem but it might be some issue regarding allowed classes and so on.. i mean.. $50 or something like that is no class but maybe it is an char that isn't allowed.. maybe he parses it as a variable :P
23:43 tchang sorry I thought I said that my issue was solved BY updating with EM
23:43 alaindro223 brain-xy if i try $string it works its only when i do numbers
23:43 brain-xy ah ok :)
23:43 brain-xy hm...
23:44 brain-xy does $ 50.000 work?
23:44 alaindro223 yes that works
23:45 brain-xy well.. what could pattern could that be..
23:46 brain-xy did you google for something like dollars or something like that?
23:46 alaindro223 yeah thus why i came here :)
23:47 brain-xy :)
23:48 brain-xy maybe.. that 2 lines could help you..
23:48 brain-xy RTE.default.proc.entryHTMLparser_db = 1
23:48 brain-xy RTE.default.proc.entryHTMLparser_db.htmlSpecialChars = -1
23:49 alaindro223 let me try that
23:52 alaindro223 didnt work
23:53 brain-xy hm.. just tried it in my t3 version.. 4.1 .. and it works.. hmm...
23:53 brain-xy you've got the 1.5dev htmlarea too i think?
23:54 alaindro223 yes correcy
23:54 alaindro223 correct
23:54 brain-xy and do you have some setup for the rte?
23:55 brain-xy i had some other problem before.. and there was something wrong with my rte setup
23:55 brain-xy when i removed it everything worked correct..
23:55 alaindro223 no just normal setup...default
23:55 brain-xy hm
23:55 brain-xy weird
23:55 alaindro223 so if its not RTE it could be some other extentions perhaps?
23:57 alaindro223 ooh i think i might have solved it, i think an extention called sourceopt is the issue
23:57 brain-xy does it do some cleaning with the output? ..
23:58 alaindro223 yeah it takes out the typo3 content on the top of the page weird that it affects the site.
23:59 alaindro223 yes it works now :) finally its definetly that sourcepot extention

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