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00:49 sw_bluntman I've got a question about indexedsearch... is it now part of the core of Typo3 (in 4.1)?
00:51 Denyerec I don't think so ?
00:52 sw_bluntman OK. I'm confused then, since I can't seem to find it in the "Import Extensions" area of the extension manager. It shows up under "Extensions only found on this server"
00:53 sw_bluntman And when I install it, I don't get the search form I am used to in the content wizard
00:53 Denyerec Maybe it is....
00:53 Denyerec I am totally unsure
00:54 sw_bluntman Heh. OK. Anyone else?
01:00 sw_bluntman Denyerec: We may be the only ones here :)
01:01 Denyerec Unlucky for you eh?
01:01 Denyerec I JUST installed a new site
01:01 Denyerec let me check it
01:01 sw_bluntman Cool. Thank you
01:02 Denyerec It is included, but not installed
01:02 Denyerec so it's on the "install extensions" list
01:02 sw_bluntman OK, so it comes on the "install extensions" list on yours too? If you install it, shouldn't you get an "indexed search" form option as a content type?
01:04 Denyerec Not that I know of
01:04 Denyerec I got a search form by using some typoscript I took from typo3wizard
01:04 Denyerec I don't know how to do it the "normal" way
01:04 Denyerec uschi you there?
01:05 sw_bluntman OK. Nevermind. I translated a German site and found that you have to choose a different plugin and then change the plugin type to indexed search
01:06 Denyerec if you figure it out please let me know
01:08 sw_bluntman I did. You just have to choose a plugin content type (like calendar or news) and then on the configuration page that appears next, drop down the list under "plugin:" and choose "Indexed Search"
01:08 Denyerec AHhhhhhhhhhhh ok
01:08 Denyerec With you now
01:08 Denyerec I don't think the search form is too nicely coded, though I could be wrong.
01:08 Denyerec Also a lot of people complain heavily about indexed search
01:09 sw_bluntman :) Kind of kludgy, but it works. I don't want users putting indexed searches everywhere anyway
01:09 Denyerec things about cron jobs, spiders, all other nasty sounding stuff.
01:09 sw_bluntman I think the biggest complaint is performance, right?
01:11 Denyerec Yeah
01:11 Denyerec Ries said something about another search system
01:11 Denyerec But I don't remember the name
01:12 Ries Denyerec: mno go search
01:12 Denyerec there you go
01:14 sw_bluntman Hrm. OK. Looking at it.
01:14 sw_bluntman Ries: Does this integrate into Typo3? Or is it external?
01:16 Ries external...
01:16 Ries I am trying to get a developer that can make an extension...
01:16 Ries it's not something easy
01:16 Ries but mno is extreemly good
01:17 sw_bluntman I will surely take a look. With this site, though, I think indexed will work. It is very small. Like about 30 pages
01:20 Denyerec Ruby on Rails has some superb search tools
01:21 Ries sw_bluntman: for 30 pages you can use indexed search perfectly
01:21 Ries Denyerec: I don't know ruby well enough...
01:21 Ries But indexed search also takes into account all permission settings... I doubth that ruby's search engine will do the same
01:22 Denyerec Oh indeed
01:22 Ries don't forget, ruby is not a CMS... it's a framework
01:22 Denyerec it's just that the search module you can use on Rails apps is very sweet
01:23 Ries Denyerec: I can't tell.. I wonder how it will work cross databases and when users adding permissions
01:23 Ries the problem with indexed search is that it is not optimized very well... which could be done to some extend even without using full text searches
01:23 Ries But search is just special enough to create companies around it ;)
01:24 Ries mno can handle gigabytes of data easely...
01:26 Denyerec (easily)
01:26 gerards :)
01:35 Ries gerards: I want to moce to manta!!! it's so cold here
01:36 gerards its not cold here....
01:36 gerards i'm drinking my black coffee. muy nice.
01:40 gerards i honestly think you should start thinking about moving there.
01:45 Ries Not yet.... but we will... some day
01:46 Denyerec can fe_users and be_users be used to control access to files on the server ?
01:46 Denyerec EG if I want to make a PDF non-downloadable to anyone except a logged in user
01:48 gerards naw_securedl can do that i think....
01:49 gerards but in any of those systems, you'll still need to modify the .htaccess files on the server to block access.
01:51 gerards anyone here using openoffice on Linux?
01:51 Denyerec Yeah
01:51 Denyerec that would be OK though get
01:51 Denyerec gerards
01:51 Denyerec Cos you know the site that asks for registration ?
01:51 Denyerec I think fe_users for that
01:51 gerards yeah?
01:52 Denyerec then allow pdf's only from a secured folder
01:52 Denyerec etc
01:52 Denyerec Looks neat
01:52 gerards Denyerec: what looks neat? naw_securedl?
01:54 gerards its not SUPER efficient, but its ok.
01:55 bedlamhotel Evening folks. I don't know exactly what you're discussing, but I think the filelink function's basic functionality allows for secure downloads (in conjunction with .htaccess). Check jumpurl: http://typo3.org/documentation/document-library/references/doc_core_tsref/4.0.0/view/5/13/
01:55 Denyerec yea
01:57 Denyerec Ahhhhhhhhhhhh
01:57 Denyerec I see
01:57 bedlamhotel denyerec: it's the TSref. It would be extremely unusual for it to be plain and lucid on the first read...
01:57 Denyerec so instead of giong TO the file, the PHP reads out the data and shits it to the user with the correct MIME headertype
01:58 Denyerec hey gerards - that's how I wrote the original :)
01:58 Denyerec Though their crappy server did not allow htaccess, so in the end it wasn't secure anyway!
01:58 Denyerec But still
01:58 Denyerec Nice to know my idea wasn't totally hopeless
01:58 bedlamhotel denyerec: you are correct in both respects.
01:58 Denyerec I found there was a great deal of hassle with IE responding properly to the headers
01:59 Denyerec I had to fight for some time to get the PDF to open in the browser instead of popping up as a file download
02:01 bedlamhotel denyerec: you're right about that. It's a bug with IE. I had to temporarily force downloads of all pdf files on a Plone site recently because of it ( i.e. temporarily until we got somebody who understood Plone to fix it some other way )
02:01 Denyerec Yeah it was a pain.
02:01 Denyerec You work with Plone too ?
02:01 Denyerec Or not...
02:01 bedlamhotel No!
02:01 Denyerec Seeing as how you had to hire someone in?
02:02 Denyerec Wouldn't expect an exclaimation there...
02:02 Denyerec What's wrong with Plone? It looked pretty neat...
02:02 bedlamhotel Plone seems to me to be even more abstruse and bizarre than the current subject of conversation (i.e. since it needs Zope...as if I didn't have enough to do when learning a new CMS, I have to learn a whole new webserver too? No thanks.)
02:04 bedlamhotel On the other hand, maybe TS ~= Zope in complexity :D
02:04 Denyerec I liked the way the guy made an extension by drawing it...
02:04 Denyerec that appealed to me :)
02:06 bedlamhotel Well, the fact that /you/ understand what that sentence means shows that you have more Plone experience than me. I'll defer to your opinion...
02:06 bedlamhotel Oops. Back shortly.
02:06 Denyerec hehe
02:06 Denyerec Bedtime I think.
02:06 Denyerec another day has passed, and I still can't write extensions :)
02:07 Denyerec I really will try one of these days... I finished reading "inside typo 3", so I think I need to read through the API
02:07 Denyerec at least the bits of the API doc that are readable anyway
02:27 Ries Denyerec: Just start making one
02:27 Ries and don't read teh complete API
03:50 jsfan hi everyone :)
04:53 jsfan hi d|g
04:53 jsfan hi anty
05:02 d|g jsfan hi
05:02 d|g hi all
05:09 jsfan /who all
05:09 jsfan ;)
05:16 just2b good morning
06:02 dax77 good morning @all
06:04 just2b hi dax
06:12 zatmania hi all
06:12 just2b hi zat
06:12 zatmania hi just2b, dax77, d|g
06:13 tobi good morning #typo3
06:13 just2b hi tobi
06:13 zatmania hi tobi
06:19 d|g zatmania good morning =)
06:34 FloLeBlanc hi all
06:35 dax77 servas oilda
06:36 FloLeBlanc not oilda => oida :) but thx
06:36 zatmania hi flo
06:36 dax77 :) next time
06:37 just2b hau di übad heisa (OT) *g*
06:37 FloLeBlanc wannst weida so deppad daherredst reiß i da ane doss da 14 tog da schädl wockelt :)
06:38 just2b we shouldn't translate that ;)
06:38 FloLeBlanc no we shouldn't
06:38 FloLeBlanc just2b: from?
06:39 just2b linz/salzkjammergut
06:39 FloLeBlanc ah :)
06:39 FloLeBlanc linz... perhaps we'll meet each other on the green next year hehe
06:40 just2b don't know where I am in one year...
06:40 FloLeBlanc why? got a good offer? :)
06:40 just2b not yet... ;)
06:40 FloLeBlanc just2b: lol
06:40 FloLeBlanc hi Jigal
06:40 Jigal hi FloLeBlanc
06:41 Jigal hi just2b
06:41 dax77 welcome Jigal :)
06:41 FloLeBlanc oh :)
06:41 FloLeBlanc with the "special ingredient"
06:42 dax77 whats that?
06:43 FloLeBlanc *takes a sip too* you can't beat it :)
06:43 FloLeBlanc http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whiskey
06:43 dax77 aaah
06:45 FloLeBlanc too bad its virtual :)
06:45 dax77 hehe
06:47 dax77 I'm looking forward to it :)
06:47 Jigal virtual stuf ain't that bad :-)
06:47 FloLeBlanc virtual whiskey is better than bourbon, but still virtual :)
06:47 FloLeBlanc hi bauschan
06:47 Jigal hi bauschan
06:47 bauschan lo flo
06:47 dax77 hi bauschan
06:48 bauschan hi jigal, dax and all the others
06:48 Jigal FloLeBlanc: I like virtual alcohol much better than the real thing...
06:48 FloLeBlanc Jigal: never tried a good whiskey eh? :)
06:49 dax77 I have to admit that I drink whisky only with coke
06:49 FloLeBlanc dax77: fair use if you don't spoil a good one :)
06:49 Jigal I tried a lot of different things, but they all tasted like one disgusting thing: alcohol
06:49 FloLeBlanc jigal :)
06:49 bauschan bauschan starts with some coffee first
06:50 Jigal nowadays I live on tea, water and coke (the brown, liquid type ;-P )
06:51 FloLeBlanc Jigal: don't drink this "sugar with flavor" often :)
06:51 Jigal FloLeBlanc: I drink the sugarless kind :)
06:52 FloLeBlanc ah with the pig breeding essence
06:52 FloLeBlanc (if the rumors are true) :)
06:52 Jigal what rumors? :-?
06:53 FloLeBlanc the ones that in coke light is an ingredient that is also used for pig breeding (that makes the pigs more hungry)
06:55 toms Hello
06:57 FloLeBlanc Die Vertreiber von Coke benutzen diese schon seit zwanzig Jahren, um die Motoren ihrer Trucks zu reinigen! (LOL)
06:57 FloLeBlanc "The distributers of coke use it to clean the engines of their trucks for 20 years now..."
06:58 Jigal FloLeBlanc: haven't heard them; but then again, some things have different effects on various species... (valium in low doses makes cats suddenly incredibly hungry; that is a thing that many vets use in practice)
06:58 FloLeBlanc oh.. didn't know that
07:01 Jigal FloLeBlanc: about cleaning engines: that's the combination of acids in coke that removes rust; but the pH of coke is still not as low as the inside of your stomic is. Already investigated by Myth Busters (and it was the only myth about coke that they could verify)
07:02 Jigal s/stomic/stomach/ (I was typing comic in an e-mail ;-) )
07:06 toms A few months ago I created a project "www.server.tld/testpage", now i want it to be "www.server.tld/project" because the "testsite" is working now. Can I achieve this? How?
07:26 FloLeBlanc Jigal: what about coke light and m&m's :)
07:26 FloLeBlanc toms: shouldn't you just have to rename the directory? the paths should be relative shouldn't they?
07:30 Jigal FloLeBlanc: I haven't seen the Myth Busters episode on that, but I heard from my brother-in-law that that of all the ingredients in mentos there were three that made diet coke 'explode'; on youtube are two videos that show real diet-coke-mentos-art :-)
07:30 FloLeBlanc yep seen that.. very funny
07:31 Jigal you've also seen the diet coke domino effect video (one bottle releasing the mentos for the next)?
07:31 FloLeBlanc lol no
07:31 FloLeBlanc regarding RTE: what is the relative path of the RTE?
07:32 FloLeBlanc (for inserting images)
07:33 FloLeBlanc the stupid things inserts all my links absolute
07:33 Jigal FloLeBlanc: Extreme Diet Coke and Mentos Experiment : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8J4RdX5H8Y and Extreme Diet Coke and Mentos Experiment II : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vk4_2xboOE
07:33 FloLeBlanc thx jigal
07:33 Jigal FloLeBlanc: the links in the resulting page or in the HTML view of the RTE?
07:34 FloLeBlanc Jigal: the links that get written in the code
07:34 FloLeBlanc if I insert a "new plain image" I always get an absolute path
07:34 FloLeBlanc that's bad because I want to move from my testdomain to the real one in the end
07:35 Jigal FloLeBlanc: where do you look at this absolute path? database, generated page, HTML view of the RTE?
07:35 FloLeBlanc in the RTE, does a temp image get generated in the end?
07:35 FloLeBlanc hmm no it doesn't :)
07:37 FloLeBlanc lol @ the youtube link
07:38 just2b nothing to work? @ Jigal & FloLeBlanc
07:38 just2b ? ;)
07:38 FloLeBlanc just2b: trying to find out how I can set relative paths for images in the RTE
07:38 Jigal in the HTML view of the RTE I always see absolute links like <a href=",">http://www.domain.ext/index.php?id=nn">, but they get translated to <link> tags later on; when generating pages the <link> tags are converted to index.php or real url links; so I'm not surprised that you see absolute links in the RTE...
07:39 just2b ;) you can try out my new ext ;)
07:39 FloLeBlanc so even IF there is the same link in the frontend in the end, it is relative?
07:42 Jigal most of the RTEs nowadays use the editable content feature of the browser. an element like a div gets that property and from that moment on the contents of that div can be edited by the user from within the browser. this feature is extended by javascript functions that insert content or edit it. When you submit the form the contents of that editable element are collected by javascript and send to the server. The generated HTML is always generated by
07:44 Jigal This is why links are always using an absolute URL. In TYPO3 Core APIs (page 139, etc.) you can read how this HTML gets transformed into something that TYPO3 likes to store in the database and how it later on gets translated again to be displayed on the generated page.
07:47 FloLeBlanc hmm ok thx jigal :)
08:06 toms Thanks to the one who gave me the hint with the relative paths.
08:13 smda toms, must have been me. I'm certain. you can send the check now. it's ok. :)
08:26 toms smda: Tell me your bank account's PIN and I will pay you immediately... ;)
08:26 Fanty I have two icons I need to make into links each pointing to its predefined id. I need to make rollover effects. Is there a smarter way to make these two than making two different HMENU with a special = list and use GMENU to make the rollover effect?
08:26 smda toms :D
08:28 FloLeBlanc fanty: depends on what browsers you want to support. if all support the hover tag you can use the RTE and apply a class with hover
08:30 Fanty FloLeBlanc: RTE? I'm writing TS
08:30 FloLeBlanc fanty: the idea remains the same, create a typolink with a class and hover style it (if all browsers you want to support accept hover)
08:33 bauschan re
08:34 mikhas I'm trying to upload files via moc_filemanager and files over 10 mbyte get's rejected as "wrong filetype". The files are uploaded to the server, and are then checked. I've set all parameters I know in php and apache to handle filesizes up 2 256 meg. Anyone know where this limitation might be?
08:39 smda mikhas: I've never used moc_... but it's not the [BE][maxFileSize] setting? doesn't sound like it but.. ..or just a transfer timeout?
08:40 smda eh.. nah.. timeouts doesn't give that message.. sorry..
08:41 mikhas smda: nope, not a transfer timeout, the php.ini-settings are good enough I think. I'll check the maxfilesize, but I think I changed that too.
08:42 mikhas maxfilesize is set, 256000.
08:44 smda mikhas: seems something like this http://lists.netfielders.de/pipermail/typo3-english/2005-February/001380.html
08:45 mikhas haha, thanks! It's bad behaviour that it works this way though.
08:47 mikhas uploading one big file now. :)
08:47 mikhas let's see.
08:49 alexwx hello friends,i need to hide some sublevel in a tree in the Sitemap element, it is possible somehow? thank you.. but i cant set pages not in menu
09:06 SmaxTheFrog hi alexwx i use dropdown sitemap which has the option to exclude pages which i use to exclude sitmap itself
09:07 mikhas smda: that was the issue, got the fileuploading working excellent now. :)
09:07 smda mikhas: great. odd error though.
09:08 mikhas smda: agree. I remember having to change that value on another typo3-site as well, where it was hardcoded too. But that was in the upload form in typo3
09:08 alexwx SmaxTheFrog thank you, i go to try
09:13 alexwx SmaxTheFrog heeey i have an error TYPO3 Fatal Error: Extension key "api_macmade" was NOT loaded! (t3lib_extMgm::extPath)
09:15 SmaxTheFrog no problem just install the api_macmade extension as well
09:15 SmaxTheFrog Developer API api_macmade 0.2.8
09:29 Jigal re
09:41 elbart hi
10:12 alexwx SmaxTheFrog hey man are you there ?
10:13 Denyerec Morning/Afternoon/Evening
10:13 alexwx SmaxTheFrog is possible in that extension turn of tha drop down function? i need very simple and classic tree, like classic Sitemap element,.. thank you
10:18 smda Denyerec: morning sleepwalker
10:19 Denyerec :)
10:19 Denyerec I feel like a sleepreader at the moment.... damn API docs :)
10:19 smda :P
10:20 Denyerec I have 3 choices today...
10:20 Denyerec Read the API and try and write an extension
10:20 Denyerec Design the typo3 manual
10:20 Denyerec Do some proper work
10:20 Denyerec Right now I'm doing 1) but 2) is tempting me.
10:20 Denyerec 3) seems right out
10:28 SmaxTheFrog alexxww re
10:28 Jigal hmmm a pity that you think that writing extensions is not proper work... ;-)
10:28 SmaxTheFrog alexxwx re
10:29 Denyerec Jigal - for myself, it won't be for at least 3 months
10:29 Denyerec unless you count producing PHP errors and database instability as work!
10:29 Denyerec ;0
10:34 Denyerec Ohhh hey
10:34 Denyerec RHTML Area got updated today
10:37 pulponair hi there
10:37 pulponair anyone using eclipse?
10:38 Denyerec I know Ries does
10:38 eeos pulponair we are, but I am at a customer (havig a short break)
10:39 pulponair Denyerec: i installed and deinstalled it several times during the last years ...i couldnt get used to it :)
10:39 pulponair Denyerec: but it would be nice to have t3 api support in it :)
10:39 Denyerec There is t3 API support ??!
10:40 pulponair Denyerec: no there ist not (at least as far as i know) ...but it would be nice to have it right?
10:40 Denyerec Hhhhh right
10:41 Denyerec hey pulponair how do I upgrade an extension ?
10:41 pulponair Denyerec: your own?
10:41 Denyerec I just "updated" rhtmlarea and now it lists in the ExtManager as Local SL
10:41 Denyerec no, rhtmlarea
10:41 pulponair Denyerec: yes since you installed it locally
10:41 Denyerec Doh
10:41 Denyerec how would I install it globally
10:42 Denyerec the option wasn not i the dropdown box
10:42 Denyerec I guess that could be write permissions on the /sysext/ folder ?
10:42 pulponair Denyerec: the easiest way is via shell just copy over the sysext
10:42 pulponair yeah
10:42 pulponair Denyerec: therefor copy it over via shell and delete the local one
10:42 Denyerec if I had that level of access to the server I would.
10:42 Denyerec It'll do as it is for now
10:43 Denyerec Still doesn't work in Opera, though
10:43 Denyerec So homo.
10:43 Jigal local installations have priority over system installations, haven't they?
10:43 pulponair Denyerec: now you know why i am always "root"
10:43 pulponair Jigal: yes
10:43 Denyerec :)
10:44 Denyerec well he wasn't lying
10:44 Denyerec HTMLArea is back in Firefox.
10:44 Denyerec Though for some reason, and this has always been the case, my colours do not work...
10:44 Jigal pulponair: I thought you were "rude" rather than "root" ;-P
10:44 pulponair wasnt there a "vote for it" call at the dev list? i wonder why nobody votes for any of my extensions ;) (probably because they arent of any use for others;) )
10:44 Denyerec I set strong to be a different colour, and it shows with the same colour as the bodytext
10:45 pulponair Jigal: no i am a polity root (sometimes)
10:45 Denyerec One of the most useful ones I have used recently is cag_rel
10:46 pulponair Denyerec: never used it
10:46 Denyerec you should :)
10:46 Denyerec 2 seconds to set up, instant Google food
10:47 pulponair Denyerec: i ll give it try
11:07 Denyerec 8 down, 176 to go.
11:08 pulponair Denyerec:did you add and author link rel?
11:08 Denyerec ?
11:08 Denyerec No it's not mine
11:08 Denyerec If it was it'd be uploaded under the name "Denyer"
11:09 Denyerec http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/types.html#type-links
11:11 pulponair Denyerec: nevermind already got it
11:25 brain-xy does perhaps anybody know how i could define that the tt_content.text.20 wrap is just started with the second or third datasheet?
11:26 Denyerec datasheet?
11:26 brain-xy i mean.. articles
11:27 brain-xy records..
11:27 brain-xy is the best word ^^
11:28 tobi brain-xy: example at the bottom of the page .. http://www.typo3wizard.com/en/articles/explaining-the-content-object.html
11:28 brain-xy tobi..what should i do without you? may i buy your brain? :D
11:40 alexwx all: helo friends, helo tobi, can i put into Sitemap element the class generated by ? i need then hide by css some level tree, more thanx
11:41 alexwx all: or how to hide some level tree? but i cant change these pages like not in menu.. cause in another menu i need to generate it.. or is there some forcing to put hide in menu menu items?
11:43 Denyerec we really need to take out tobi's brain
11:43 Denyerec Put it into a jar, and hook it up to the internet somehow.
11:43 brain-xy def :)
11:43 Denyerec Then we can get typoscript questions answered 27/7
11:43 Denyerec 24/7
11:43 Denyerec Though I'm sure with Typo3 we wish there were 27 hours in the day...
11:43 Denyerec :)
11:44 brain-xy :)
11:46 Denyerec Clever...
11:46 Denyerec so you append a splitter to ever content element in the array
11:46 Denyerec then use a split to bust it up.
11:46 Denyerec Not sure I follow the details 100% but I get the idea.
11:47 tobi hehe good idea to hook my brain to the internet, so i can stop working and play wow the whole day
11:47 brain-xy :D
11:47 tobi yes thats the idea of this snippet Denyerec
11:47 Denyerec WOW ? Surely Typo3 devs play EVE? :)
11:48 tobi hey alexwx: the sitemap is a normal HMENU, you can look at it with the Object browser ... set excludeUidList=yourpids to exclude some menu items from the sitemap!
11:48 tobi im palying wow, dont know what the devs are playing ;)
11:49 brain-xy tobi.. is it really as good as everyony says? a friend wanted to force me playing it :P
11:50 alexwx tobi i tryed to find it by object browser, but i didnt find it
11:50 tobi dont start it, consumes to much time ;)
11:50 brain-xy :P
11:50 tobi search under tt_content / menu alexwx
11:51 brain-xy tobi.. there shouldn't appear that marker, should it?
11:52 tobi uhm no the marker should be replaced with split brain-xy
11:52 brain-xy yes.. so i think too..
11:52 brain-xy hm...
11:54 robv Anyone understands the version numbers of rtehtmlarea?
11:54 robv 1.5.1dev was included in typo3 version 4.1
11:54 zatmania ?
11:54 robv but 1.2.2 is just released
11:55 alexwx tobi i cant find it.. i tryd also find by the class which it generated it "csc-sitemap" but nothing to find
11:55 robv And in the version history you see that it goes from 1.1.5, 1.4.3, 1.16 and not 1.2.2
11:55 robv not=now
11:58 eeos I am at a customer: does anyone know if (1) it is possible to extract fields from tables to reate lables from typo3 (2) if there is a way to assig items to more than 1 category in tt_products?
11:58 eeos (we are havig a break)
12:05 alexwx tobi i cant find it in object browser but i find some path to sitemap, a it really work :) thank you
12:05 tobi ok ;)
12:05 tobi in obj browser it is in tt_content.menu.20
12:05 alexwx tobi yea it is, but is strange i cant see it in object browser
12:08 alexwx tobi sorry this is in, but i didnt find the class which is generated "csc-sitemap".. and i didnt know the tt_content.menu.20 is the sitemap :)
12:08 alexwx but ok, now i know :)
12:19 isolysis I need to install Typo3 on a Windows 2003 server, and I am considering the option to hire someone from the development team if that is an option. Can someone please advise?
12:23 brain-xy hm tobi do you use this script with the split option somewhere?
12:24 tobi yes i used it more than 1 time
12:30 Fanty in TS - I have an COA object. How do I wrap each element in my COA? mycoa.wrap wraps the entire object and not the .10 .20 .30 etc elements..
12:31 pulponair Fanty: wrap the inner objects itself
12:31 pulponair fanty. 10.stdWrap.wrap=x|x
12:31 pulponair and so on
12:33 Fanty so I gotta do it on every inner object?
12:45 neostar hi
12:48 neostar is anyone of you using DAM?
12:50 roelof hello, everybody
12:51 roelof my ts and template are found at : http://phpfi.com/221280
12:51 roelof but then i see only the background-color instead of the site
12:51 roelof can anyone tell me what have done wrong ?
12:55 koomi roelof: included css styled content?
12:56 koomi rte bug closed :)
12:57 roelof yep, css styled content is present in the include static
13:02 d|g koomi rte bug url? ;)
13:04 roelof koomi, do you have other ideas
13:17 gerards morning everyone
13:17 roelof morning, gerards
13:18 Denyerec hey gerard
13:22 roelof my ts and template are found at : http://phpfi.com/221280 . can anyone tell me why i only see the background-color ?
13:29 smda roelof: it looks to me like you've copied to different examples of template TS into one? Btw have you considered using templavoila instead?
13:31 roelof yep, but then i don't get the title and the date to the right place
13:31 smda roelof : second btw: the html seems wrong at "<< vorige</a> <a href="#">volgende >>" those extra < and > !friendly..
13:31 roelof oke, that's was dummy text so i know that i want something like this there
13:31 smda hm.. k. sorry more than two years since I used the old markup-thingus-templating-style..
13:32 roelof i can change that by some other text
13:32 smda that's not the real prob anyway.. just a btw thing..
13:33 roelof the example i use can be found at : http://typo3.org/documentation/document-library/tutorials/doc_tut_templselect/0.1.0/view/1/3/#id3040801 and after the text: putting it all together
13:37 smda edanto: don't even think about it! :D
13:37 edanto fair enough - total newbie
13:37 edanto say, does anyone know about typo hanging in new firefox?
13:38 smda roelof: have you followed that tutorial from top to bottom?
13:39 roelof yep, i did
13:40 roelof the TS which is used before they one which giving me problems was working good
13:44 bauschan wow, I just managed to get the Zend Platform debugger to work on our favorite cms
13:44 bauschan at least
13:44 bauschan sometimes ;)
13:45 Denyerec hehe
13:45 Fanty why cant I look up rtehtmlarea in TER neither in the EM of typo3 OR on typo3.org..?!
13:45 Denyerec Now go away and build the typo API into eclipse :D
13:45 bauschan right away
13:45 Fanty Any quick way to fix the 2.0.0.3 bug if I cant update the extension?
13:47 gcop1 is it possible to test the type of a field. Like test if image_link return int (page_id) or string (external link)
13:48 gcop1 Fanty : you can do as if your FF is Opera for example with "user agent switch" extension
13:50 smda roelof: look a little bit at this one... http://phpfi.com/221297 it's a stripped down version of a site I made once..
13:50 tobi gcop1 i have a cool script for that: http://phpfi.com/221299
13:51 tobi there is also another aproach here gcop1, but the firstone is better . http://www.typo3wizard.com/en/snippets/general-config/different-formating-for-internal-and-external-links.html
13:51 smda roelof : maybe it can give you some hints.. oh.. read page.10 < temp.mainTemplate as page.10 < temp.contentAreaTemplate instead..
13:51 Remowylliams Hello everyone, I'm installing quickstart-3.8.1 on a typo3 4.1 .. is there an order I should use to configure this?
13:53 gcop1 thanks tobi.... Not easy just for a test :)
13:53 Remowylliams Should I use the update wizard on this?
13:53 tobi no not easy .. thats typoscript, simple things need a lot of code sometimes where complicated things can be done in 2 lines ..
13:55 roelof smda, can you give me a hint ?
13:56 smda roelof: nope. only code and rtfm from me today ;)
14:02 gcop1 sure tobi... Where can i buy a Casper brain? ebay???
14:02 roelof oke, then i will try on and on , smda
14:03 roelof thank you for your help
14:03 smda roelof: try stripping down your ts and start from where it used to work
14:04 smda roelof : dont copy/paste more ts than you can read and understand. It probably will be of more distraction than help in the beginning. take it one step at a time :)
14:05 roelof oke
14:09 Remowylliams Why do I keep getting a 403. 'You are not Authorized to view this page'? I"m using the quickstart 3.8.1 with typo3_4.1
14:11 j0hndeere Good morning, earth humans.
14:11 zatmania hi j0hndeere
14:12 Remowylliams Greetings j0hndeere of the planet Great tractor
14:12 smda hi j0hndeere
14:16 Denyerec Great Ruler of Tractonia
14:17 Remowylliams In answer to my question: It's important sometimes to read your error log on your web server. tslib does not exist in typo3_src-4.1/ this is why I was getting a 403
14:19 smda Remowylliams: logs can be handy :)
14:21 Remowylliams Have things changed seriously from the install one originally encounters when installing typo3? I use to see the 1-2-3-Go install screen
14:26 j0hndeere Denyerec: I am not a ruler. I am team leader of Reconnaissance Unit %‡¤?.
14:26 j0hndeere But thank you for the compliment.
14:28 socken23 I only have file->filelist. We had a 'images' before updating. How can I get that back!?
14:29 raystream hallo
14:29 raystream habe da ei kleines typo3 problem
14:29 raystream wollte voneienr 3.6 version updaten, hat soweit auch alle sgeklappt
14:30 raystream ins backend komme ich nur die website sagt mir bei aufruf "Error: The main frontend extension "cms" was not loaded. Enable it in the extension manager in the backend."
14:30 raystream was mach ich falsch
14:31 raystream kann mir denn keiner nen tipp geben?
14:31 bauschan raystream: Channel is English only :(
14:31 raystream sorry
14:31 bauschan np
14:31 raystream i have tried to update my typo3 from 3.6 to the new version
14:32 raystream th ebackend ist fine but the frontend only gives this error: "Error: The main frontend extension "cms" was not loaded. Enable it in the extension manager in the backend."
14:32 raystream whats wrong?
14:32 raystream but i cant enable a extension cms in the ext.manager because ther no extension with that name
14:35 raystream nobody here can help me?
14:38 elbart you should check the box to show shy extensions
14:45 socken23 does anyone know how I get my image section back!?!?
14:49 edanto hello all. My firfox upgrade has stoped the editor loading - I found something on the mailing list that I don't understand. Can anyone explain what this solution means "What I did was to uninstall it (htmlarea) and put in tinyrte instead, it loads faster than htmlarea."
14:51 edanto note - the guy that posted that solution was using mozilla on linux, I'm on xp.
14:59 meinl Hi
14:59 meinl Anybody running libc6 in here?
15:08 a_depretis hi everybody ... i do have a little question concerning tt_news: is there a way to set the archiveTypolink depending on the tt_content uid ... because i do have multiple news plugins (mode: LATEST) on one page which should point to different archive pages
15:10 a_depretis anybody?
15:43 Denyerec What would suddenly cause a website that has been displaying in UTF-8 fine for the last 6 weeks to all of a sudden only display correctly in western-8859-1 ?
15:45 j0hndeere Internet Exploiter?
15:47 Denyerec Any browser
15:47 Denyerec it's like something behind my back just changed all the character entities
15:48 Denyerec AH!
15:48 Denyerec I bet it was HTML Tidy...
15:48 Denyerec it was
15:57 gianluca_r hello all
15:57 gianluca_r is here typo3 admin using DAB(auxdataviewer) extension?
16:05 gianluca_r bye all :-)
16:09 helpme I can't figger this one out, it has something to do with the GMENU, but i cant find a tutorial that can let me make this one. can some1 take a look at it and help me a hand :P? http://jananne.net/helpme.jpg
16:10 helpme is there any tutorial?
16:10 helpme i want to have 3 menu's, the sub menu must go to the left ( as you can see in the picture ).
16:12 helpme no one? :(
16:17 a_depretis helpme: have a look at http://typo3.org/documentation/document-library/tutorials/doc_tut_ftb1/1.0.1/view/
16:17 helpme okay, i'll have a look at it :). thanks.
16:28 Denyerec you know I've never even thought to use GMENU
16:29 Denyerec I don't know why, but I've never yet had a reason.
16:33 just2b I need a datepicker which stores a date in 1 input field and the timestamp in another to proceed with it
17:04 just2b ok got it
17:26 Emile_ Hello Everyone, anyone can tell me a simple way to include php scripts under TV?
17:27 Emile_ I nned to insert a simple script but it seems not working under Templavoila...
17:31 ceed hey
17:32 ceed i've created a new backend user & group, but how do i enable the RTE for that user? it just doesn't show up
17:33 ceed it works for my existing user just fine
17:47 j0hndeere ceed: Are you sue it's not the firefox/RTE problem?
17:56 j0hndeere well, it's time to consume victuals.
17:57 j0hndeere ceed, your problem might be that the user in question is using firefox, and firefox put out a new version last week, which breaks the RTE
17:57 j0hndeere there's fix on typo3.org.... search for it
18:08 absorensen Hi
18:09 absorensen I have spent lots of hours(like you guys certainly) to do the installation of typo3CMS - i simply cant get into the backend. i have finished the 123step installation
18:10 absorensen what can be wrong - when checking connection to the mysql in the installation tool it says it is ok.... what can be wrong..
18:15 smda absorensen: I guess it's your first time with t3 right? I'd like to rekommend using any of the prebuilt xampp versions or similar to get a kickstart..
18:16 smda absorensen: http://typo3.org/download/installers/
18:21 uschi hi folks :))
18:21 smda ohla uschi. You got the latin under control today? :)
18:21 uschi no latin today, studying t3 rights management for be
18:22 smda k. could be all the same (if you don't know either that is - like me)
18:23 uschi but my realurl works nice now
18:23 smda that's nice. realurl is so nice to look at when it works. magic :)
18:24 uschi yes, it is :)
18:24 uschi well, we shall see what it will be like, when it comes to extensions, but all in all ...
18:25 smda yeah.. I've been happy with it. But I've only used it with simpler sites so far, not going further then to tt_news or so..
18:27 uschi well, i do not understand everything, but perhaps, step after step, i will get a deeper insight
18:32 Remowylliams Excuse me, can someone tell me what the difference is in versioning, between element, page and branch?
18:39 Remowylliams Things seemed to have changed a little in versioning since 3.8.1
18:58 ceed nope, i have updated the htmlarea RTE to the latest version
18:59 ceed shows with my firefox 2.0.0.3, but with the new user it just shows the normal "text" box
19:02 JFrasier whats up everyone...I am trying to install the realURL extension and was hoping someone could point me to where I find the htpd.conf?
19:09 Fab1an- in path/to/apache/conf
19:11 JFrasier ugh...this extension is going to be the death of me
19:38 max_muetze hello there, can u tell me where to put a text-element if i want it to display on every site in the right frame? (typo3 4.1)
19:39 uschi using tv, max_muetze ?
19:41 max_muetze hello uschi, my tv is off, what do you mean?
19:41 uschi templavoila *g*
19:41 Fab1an- lol
19:41 max_muetze oh, is it obligatory for this?
19:42 max_muetze i don't use it at the moment
19:42 uschi no, it is not obligatory
19:43 uschi shall this content element be part of each and every page that uses that template?
19:43 max_muetze yes, on every page
19:43 max_muetze so i should edit the template, right?
19:43 Fab1an- you could insert the text element anywhere you want and then render it on all pages using RECORDS (look it up in tsref)
19:44 uschi ok, then i suppose you have to set a marker or whatever that is when you do it the normal (none tv way)
19:44 uschi and then write a little ts-template, that shows exactly that content element
19:44 max_muetze uff, sounds complicated
19:45 uschi it is not
19:45 uschi there is a 'rezept' for that in the typo3-cookbook
19:46 uschi wait a moment
19:47 max_muetze can u provide a link for the cookbook? i only can find the security-cookbook
19:48 Fab1an- ok here is another (easier but not perfect) way: insert it on 1 page, then insert another content element on other pages and change the type to link records and select the original record
19:48 uschi yes, but that is a really ugly solution
19:48 uschi max_muetze it is a book
19:49 uschi i shall type it for you
19:49 uschi a few minutes please
19:49 uschi you definitely have to add a marker to your template
19:49 uschi do you know how to do that?
19:49 uschi to your html-template, i mean
19:50 max_muetze no, not really yet
19:50 max_muetze i read that a marker looks like ###marker###
19:50 uschi this is something you have to find out for yourself
19:50 max_muetze but that's it
19:50 uschi yes
19:50 uschi so say, you add a marker ###MYCEMARKER###
19:50 max_muetze yes, i want to.
19:51 uschi and then, wait, i have to type a little bit
19:51 max_muetze ;) you're very nice
19:52 uschi well i am asking a lot of questions here and people have invested a lot of time in me
19:52 uschi so i am glad if i can help as well sometimes
19:52 max_muetze yes, same to me, but i am still in phase 1 ;)
19:53 Tester110 hi
19:53 uschi it is a normal content element, max_muetze ?
19:54 Tester110 i have any questions about typo3... how can i change the google-keywords for my site?
19:54 max_muetze no it shall be a plugin that displays a rss-feed from my coppermine-gallery
19:54 Tester110 how is it defined?
19:55 max_muetze it should look like on http://www.christianeiselt.de (right frame)
19:57 Tester110 lol die usb bratfanne is ja cool ;))
19:57 max_muetze ;)
19:58 Tester110 do you fit in typo3 muetze?
19:58 max_muetze if i fit?
19:58 uschi http://phpfi.com/221407
19:58 max_muetze ;) i am still at the beginning...
19:58 Tester110 yes, i have any questions about typo3
19:59 uschi max_muetze, have a look at the given url
19:59 Tester110 ok, i too
19:59 uschi you have to know which table your content element comes from
19:59 max_muetze uschi: i am looking :)
20:00 max_muetze ah, thanks a lot. i will try it immediately
20:00 uschi but mind you, define the marker in your html-template first
20:01 max_muetze uschi: in the setup-section, right?
20:01 uschi right
20:01 uschi the code i pasted is for your setup
20:01 max_muetze ok
20:01 uschi but the html-template needs the marker with the equivalent name
20:01 Tester110 does anybody know how can i change my site META keywords?
20:02 uschi either headerData or ... there is another one
20:02 Tester110 where can i configure this in typo3?
20:02 uschi wait a second Tester110
20:03 uschi i am looking it up
20:03 Tester110 ok fine ;)
20:03 uschi it belongs in the setup-section of your page template
20:04 uschi you could say
20:04 uschi page.headerData.20 = HTML
20:05 Tester110 ok... i´m newbie in typo3 ... can you explain me this step by step please :))
20:05 uschi do you want to get your keywords from the page properties keywords?
20:05 Tester110 i want to change the keywords
20:05 uschi from what to what, this is what i need to know first
20:06 uschi Tester110, if you switch to page type advanced, there is a field "keywords"
20:06 Tester110 mmm from test to live as example
20:06 uschi so you can have different keywords for every page
20:07 Tester110 ah ok... how can i define the keywords global and how can i define it for every site?
20:07 uschi for defining them for every page you can add them into the keywords field, that is available if you switch the page type to advanced
20:08 uschi if you do not add keywords there, you will not have any later :)
20:08 Tester110 how can i switch to the advanced field? sorry for my ignorance
20:09 uschi for the rest let me look up something please
20:09 uschi do you speak german, Tester110 ?
20:09 Tester110 ja
20:09 Tester110 query?
20:09 uschi yes
20:41 Fabian- anyone got tips for a good web developer IDE?
20:43 gerards go with Ecplise.
20:49 j0hndeere Hello again, earthlings.
20:57 gerards Ries: ?
21:14 uschi hello gerards
21:15 uschi still not dancing
21:15 gerards hey uschi.
21:15 uschi waiting for Ries, our dancing queen?
21:15 gerards hahaha! no.
21:15 gerards yeah, he was gone for a while.
21:15 gerards unresponsive.
21:15 gerards comatose.
21:16 uschi a comatose dancing queen
21:34 Ries gerards: uschi: buzy buzy buzy
21:35 uschi buzy, Ries, the comatose
21:35 j0hndeere LOL. Ries the Comatose
21:35 j0hndeere Aye, truly Ries the Comatose was among the bravest of the Knights of yore.
21:36 j0hndeere I need to write myself an IRC client...
21:38 Ries j0hndeere: why write one if you can get one?
21:38 gerards braggin rights...
21:48 uschi fighting with rights management, gerards?
21:58 j0hndeere Ries: I'm picky.
21:58 j0hndeere granting, the chances I'm picky enough to actually take the trouble to write an IRC client for personal use is exceptionally close to zero.
21:58 uschi hi Denyerec :)
22:01 Denyerec Hey uschi
22:01 Denyerec Cor john
22:01 Denyerec the amount of software I'd re-write if I could because of pickiness,..
22:02 uschi typo3 for example?
22:03 Denyerec Hehe
22:03 Denyerec Windows would get a good going over...
22:04 Denyerec closely followed by pretty much every application I use.
22:04 Denyerec )
22:04 Denyerec :)
22:07 j0hndeere There is no fate for Windows but the bottomless pit of eternal fire.
22:08 uschi you are really miltonian tonight, j0hndeere
22:09 brain-xy hello all
22:10 brain-xy how could i give a page which is defined as an external link another link for another language?
22:11 Denyerec Wow
22:11 Denyerec that's quite a question brain
22:11 Denyerec like linking to google.fr if you're in the french language, and google.de if you're in german ?
22:11 Denyerec from the same link ?
22:12 uschi translate the page
22:12 uschi if you do not get localisation options through the page properties go to list Module, Deny
22:13 uschi from there you have access to all page fields regardless of the page type
22:14 Denyerec It's that simple ?
22:14 Denyerec (I have yet to implement a translated site)
22:14 uschi yes :)
22:15 uschi at least this is what i hope, Denyerec, i have read about it somewhere, because i need this feature and i need abstracts or descriptions for external pages
22:16 brain-xy Denyerec .. exactly like that
22:16 Denyerec Well brain-xy, I think uschi is your guide on this one...
22:16 brain-xy i got no brain at the moment to figure out how i could do that
22:16 Denyerec So, -xy.... :)
22:16 brain-xy i hope so.. uschi .. can you help me?
22:16 brain-xy yes :P
22:16 uschi with what?
22:17 uschi how to go to the list module?
22:17 Denyerec wait I know this one!
22:17 brain-xy i have a page which is defined as an external link.. and i need to link it to another page if the user is for example on the german
22:18 uschi yes, go to the list module on a page one level above the external page
22:18 uschi the parent page of your external page, brain-xy
22:18 brain-xy yes
22:18 brain-xy got it.. what now?
22:19 uschi mom, have to do it myself
22:19 uschi klick on the Page table list (the title)
22:19 brain-xy yes
22:19 uschi then you will see only the pages
22:20 uschi now, beneath that table you see checkboxes for extended view and localization view
22:20 uschi check both
22:20 brain-xy jap
22:21 uschi now you see all the fields of the pages table
22:21 brain-xy yes
22:21 uschi choose page title and/or navtitle and click set fields
22:21 brain-xy k
22:22 uschi sorry, wrong that way
22:22 uschi wait, i have to play around
22:22 brain-xy k :)
22:23 uschi the way with the fields works for everything but localization
22:24 uschi different for localization
22:24 uschi we need the info module
22:24 brain-xy k
22:25 uschi shit, but then you cannot get any further
22:25 uschi we could try switching the page type to advanced
22:27 uschi does not work either, brain-xy
22:27 uschi wait, i am stupid
22:27 uschi still a chance
22:30 uschi stuck, somehow, we shall see
22:32 uschi sorry, i do not get it, brain-xy
22:32 brain-xy np
22:32 uschi obviously you can do that with every other page, but not with external url *sniff*
22:33 brain-xy i think that is something that could be changed in later versions of t3
22:33 uschi oh yes you can, it just is completely confusing
22:36 uschi i am getting quite far, but not to editing the link itself
22:37 brain-xy i found an ext which was written for v3.5.. but it doesn't work properly
22:37 uschi that one is to old
22:37 brain-xy instead of the id 14 it shows 148
22:37 brain-xy too old i think
22:37 uschi yes
22:38 uschi the problem with page is, that alternative languages are stored in a different table
22:39 Denyerec possible to alter the wrap on a list subitem based on the text value of its parent ?
22:39 uschi sorry, cannot help you
22:39 Denyerec eg if the page alias is "products" then apply this ID...
22:42 uschi he is afk, he is livid gray
22:43 Denyerec dang
22:43 Denyerec You any idea how I might go about such a thing ?
22:43 uschi what do you mean by a list subitem
22:44 Denyerec say I have items in my menu toplevel called Home, Products, Info and Content
22:45 bedlamhotel Denyerec: huh?
22:45 Denyerec I need to build a conditional into my menu somehow, to say "If the page alias is products, use a different wrap"
22:45 Denyerec all the drop down submenus are the same width except the products one, which must be wide.
22:45 bedlamhotel Page alias is in rootline, no?
22:45 Denyerec page title would do
22:45 bedlamhotel denyerec: .if
22:45 Denyerec but I figured the alias is invisible to the average user so would be a safer bet.
22:46 bedlamhotel lib.foo = TEXT
22:46 Denyerec I thought that, but how to access the page field ?
22:46 bedlamhotel .data = page:title
22:46 Denyerec http://wilcoding.xs4all.nl/Wilco/Pastecode/4416/showpaste.aspx
22:47 uschi hey bedlamhotel :)))))))))
22:47 bedlamhotel uschi: Uh oh. You seem WAY too happy to see me.
22:47 uschi bedlamhotel, i got realurl AND my language menu to work, thx
22:48 Denyerec hehe
22:48 bedlamhotel Cool. I don't recall actually helping much with realurl...what did you have to do with that?
22:49 uschi well, to get it all right
22:49 uschi you gave me some important links and some explanation
22:49 uschi it is not that long ago :)
22:50 bedlamhotel Denyerec: can you explain what that code is for and what you want? :-)
22:50 Denyerec say I have items in my menu toplevel called Home, Products, Info and Content
22:50 bedlamhotel uschi: true, but last I saw you you were still a ways from getting finished I think.
22:50 Denyerec I need to apply a custom class in the Products wrap
22:50 Denyerec http://wilcoding.xs4all.nl/Wilco/Pastecode/4416/showpaste.aspx
22:50 Denyerec See line 8
22:50 Denyerec that's the standard optionSplit for the menu
22:50 Denyerec BUT
22:51 uschi bedlamhotel, remember, one of the problems was that it all switched back to id and L when i switched the language
22:51 Denyerec if the page is called "products" it needs wrapping with id="products"
22:52 uschi and there was your tip with typolinks dirty little secret returnLast
22:53 bedlamhotel uschi: yes, so the returnLast thing worked for you?
22:53 bedlamhotel (that's how all the dynamic CSS works in the kendo and apprentice sites I showed you)
22:53 uschi perfectly
22:54 bedlamhotel Denyerec: is there a huge objection to wrapping it with the page name/alias? Is that what you were talking about? (Alias is a better choice since it strips whitespace)...
22:54 Denyerec wrapping every item with the page alias ?
22:54 Denyerec Hmmmmm
22:54 Denyerec Suppose not.
22:54 bedlamhotel No, just the one.
22:55 Denyerec Oh
22:55 Denyerec No that's what I want to do!
22:55 bedlamhotel Every one wouldn't be a big problem though either.
22:55 Denyerec I just want to alter the wrapping if the alias = products
22:58 bedlamhotel Denyerec: check the TSref for me: does ATagParams have .stdWrap?
22:58 bedlamhotel ...or is it that you're wrapping a menu item AND its children?
22:59 Denyerec that's on a typolink right ?
23:00 Denyerec <A>-params /stdWrap
23:00 Denyerec That's what it says about ATagParams for typolink
23:00 bedlamhotel Denyerec: TMENUITEM != .typolink...not quite anyhow.
23:01 Denyerec Ah you wanted it for TMENUITEM
23:01 Denyerec ok
23:01 Denyerec <A>-params /stdWrap
23:01 Denyerec tis the same on both
23:01 bedlamhotel For your menu, right? In any case, the other question is more important: are you wrapping just the item, or the item and its children?
23:01 Denyerec Welll
23:01 Denyerec Just the item
23:02 Denyerec as it's a <li> with a <ul> inside it
23:02 Denyerec so for CSS purposes, only the parent's <li> needs the id="products" in it.
23:02 bedlamhotel Then that's the item and its children. I.e. you want to do li#products ul li a { ... } or similar, right?
23:03 Denyerec Right now I have--> <li>Products <ul><li>submenu items</li>........</ul></li>
23:03 Denyerec and I want
23:03 Denyerec <li id="Products">Products <ul><li>submenu items</li>........</ul></li>
23:04 bedlamhotel Just yes or no please.
23:04 Denyerec I'm giving you examples because I don't understand what you're asking!
23:04 bedlamhotel I need to know if you are trying to style the submenu using the id on the parent li.
23:04 Denyerec AH
23:04 Denyerec yes
23:04 Denyerec yes yes yes
23:04 Denyerec :)
23:05 Denyerec (Now I do)
23:05 bedlamhotel Much better. The point was that if you were ONLY styling the top level link text, you could have used ATagParams with .if since it has stdWrap.
23:05 bedlamhotel But you can't.
23:05 bedlamhotel So. In .NO, .wrapItemAndSub has to change to |</li>
23:06 bedlamhotel ...and you have to use some NO property with .stdWrap to build the opening link tag.
23:06 bedlamhotel The .wrapItemAndSub is crucial for the closing tag, but you can do the opening tag with anything.
23:07 bedlamhotel something like NO.prepend = HTML // NO.prepend.value.dataWrap = <li id="{page:alias}">, but altered to output different stuff according to the value of page:alias. Get the idea?
23:08 Denyerec As usual, I get the idea, but the syntax and the new stuff (prepend) is a mystery
23:08 Denyerec So you're saying...
23:08 Denyerec drop the opening tag from the wrap
23:08 bedlamhotel prepend is a .stdWrap function (unless I've spelled it wrong...)
23:08 Denyerec and use prepend to add my own
23:09 bedlamhotel Yes. But it will be tricky with those .first and .last classes.
23:09 bedlamhotel If I were you, I would use the alias field (or the uid field) to make an id for ALL the menu items and just group #alias_of_first_item with .first in your stylesheet etc.
23:10 bedlamhotel A little less tidy, and not as unbreakable, but for most sites, the top-level nav doesn't change without the developers getting involved anyways, right/
23:10 bedlamhotel ?
23:11 Denyerec Pretty much agree with the not changing much
23:11 Denyerec so lets say I want the alias of the page to become the id
23:11 Denyerec for every page
23:11 Denyerec That's what you're implying, right ?
23:11 bedlamhotel yep.
23:12 Denyerec field:alias is going to come into it somewhere
23:12 Denyerec or is that page:alias
23:12 bedlamhotel I'd hoped that by now I wasn't just implying it :)
23:12 Denyerec Well, indeed. You're now responsible, as I'm at the action stage :)
23:12 bedlamhotel in TMENU, it should be field:alias--you're already IN the pages table. In other circumstances, it'd usually be page:alias
23:13 Denyerec these things, and the structure of these things, continues to elude me. It has not yet "clicked"
23:13 bedlamhotel I may be wrong about that last. It hasn't completely clicked for me yet either (4+ years onwards...)
23:14 bedlamhotel But in any case, it's a MENU, so it's logical to assume that the current cObject is based on pages table (with the caveat that logic per-se is not TYPO3's defining characteristic...)
23:14 Denyerec http://wilcoding.xs4all.nl/Wilco/Pastecode/4418/showpaste.aspx
23:15 bedlamhotel Denyerec: go straight to the TSref and tell me if wrapItemAndSub has .stdWrap. I'll wait :D
23:15 Denyerec haha ok
23:15 Denyerec just wrap
23:16 bedlamhotel So that won't work--that's why I didn't suggest that alternative.
23:16 Denyerec right
23:16 bedlamhotel Also, there's something wrong with either your CSS or your pastcode widget.
23:16 Denyerec because this field: page: malarky is part of stdwrap
23:16 bedlamhotel This: "<li id="active {field:alias}<font size="3">" class="current">|</li>"</font>
23:16 bedlamhotel <font size="3">...cannot produce valid id attribute.</font>
23:17 bedlamhotel <font size="3">sure. It's getTExt.</font>
23:17 Denyerec browser ?
23:17 bedlamhotel <font size="3">There's a space in that id attribute. Not allowed.</font>
23:19 bedlamhotel <font size="3">Don't make me quote the CSS spec at you too...</font>
23:19 Denyerec <marquee>Point taken</marquee>
23:19 bedlamhotel <font size="3">*LOL*</font>
23:20 Denyerec I'm not including font tags tho
23:20 Denyerec so I think pastecode is busted
23:20 Denyerec I'll use PHPfi in future
23:21 bedlamhotel <font size="3"><font size=4>Good to hear</font></font>
23:21 Denyerec daring
23:21 Denyerec OK well I've returned to the comfort and familiarity of square one.
23:21 Denyerec If IE would bastard bloody well support adjacency selectors this would not be an issue
23:21 Denyerec I could just style up the 2nd list entry and tell them not to move it.
23:22 Denyerec *lightbulb*
23:22 Denyerec I could just set optionsplit up to provide an ID on the 2nd item!
23:22 Denyerec & tell them not to move the products page.
23:22 Denyerec ¬_¬
23:22 uschi keep calm, in three years ... ie6 will be, well, obsolete
23:22 bedlamhotel <font size="3">Denyerec: of course. I thought you'd considered and rejected that idea. Sorry.</font>
23:22 uschi i do understand what you mean
23:22 Denyerec uschi - and of the bastard child IE7?
23:23 bedlamhotel <font size="3">But what you're attempting is quite simple...</font>
23:23 Denyerec bedlamhotel it always is.
23:23 Denyerec SOmehow my life is a series of getting hung up on simplicities.
23:24 bedlamhotel <font size="3">denyerec: a moment.</font>
23:26 bedlamhotel <font size="3">denyerec: this ought at least to be close to what you're doing: http://phpfi.com/221454
23:27 Denyerec 10.value, would that not want to be |</li>
23:27 Denyerec wait
23:27 Denyerec heh
23:27 Denyerec I see
23:27 Denyerec sorry :)
23:27 bedlamhotel <font size="3">True.</font>
23:28 bedlamhotel <font size="3">No, you're right. You've got wrapItemAndSub taking care of that.</font>
23:28 bedlamhotel <font size="3">same in .5 and .10</font>
23:28 bedlamhotel <font size="3">No thanks, I have lots here.</font>
23:29 bedlamhotel <font size="3"><em>lots</em></font>
23:29 Denyerec uschi did you go to bed yet ?
23:29 Denyerec is it just me, or is bedlam wrapping everything in font tags?
23:29 Denyerec First I thought it was a joke... but now I'm not so sure.
23:30 bedlamhotel <font size="3"><font color="red"><font><font>I would</font> NOT do that</font></font></font> to you...</font>
23:35 bedlamhotel <font size="3"><font size=4><font weight=bold>You'll never take me alive!</font> Bwahahahah..</font>..</font>
23:35 bedlamhotel <font size="3">It gives me a headache even to joke about it...</font>
23:38 Denyerec http://phpfi.com/221457
23:38 Denyerec take a look
23:38 Denyerec :P
23:39 bedlamhotel <font size="3">?</font>
23:40 Denyerec You can stop now.
23:40 bedlamhotel <font size="3">Stop /what/?</font>
23:40 Denyerec Seriously.
23:41 bedlamhotel <font size="3">Remember when you asked if it's just you? It's not happening at this end...</font>
23:41 Denyerec Which IRC client are you using ?
23:44 bedlamhotel <font size="3">Gaim.</font>
23:44 bedlamhotel <font size="3">Stripped down to as few features as possible.</font>
23:46 bedlamhotel <font size="3">Did your menu work?</font>
23:46 Denyerec I'm more alarmed by the fact gaim is inserting html into your IRC commentary
23:47 Denyerec I got sidetracked by the fact that preficLocalAnchors wasn't prefixing anything to some anchors.
23:48 bedlamhotel <font size="3">well not with that 'c' in there it won't...</font>
23:48 bedlamhotel <font size="3">I'll log out and return.</font>
23:49 bedlamhotel denyerec: how's this?
23:49 Denyerec Better!
23:49 Denyerec Oh man
23:49 bedlamhotel Weird.
23:50 Denyerec NO shit
23:50 Denyerec you had some colour tags at one point
23:50 bedlamhotel I never touch the formatting junk though.
23:51 Denyerec Notice: Undefined index: TYPO3_CONF_VARS in /var/www/sozu.local/html/bsctypo/typo3conf/ext/t3quixplorer/mod1/conf.php on line 7
23:51 Denyerec FGS
23:52 Denyerec Quixpolorer has never given me grief before.
23:53 Denyerec Nuts
23:53 Denyerec Now what to use as a filebrowser ?
23:53 bedlamhotel Why do you need one?
23:57 Denyerec Saves me going to ftp to alter htaccess and such
23:57 bedlamhotel there's a phpshell extension
23:57 Denyerec Oh RATS now RealURL isn't working... I have copied the config from another site which is working fine...
23:57 bedlamhotel :)
23:57 Denyerec http://sozutux.dyndns.org/bsctypo/enquiries.html
23:58 bedlamhotel ?
23:58 Denyerec That smacks of a busted .htaccess
23:58 Denyerec unless...
23:59 bedlamhotel could also be a 'hide in menu' thing...
23:59 Denyerec http://sozutux.dyndns.org/bsctypo/
23:59 Denyerec nothing is set to hide in menu :S
23:59 Denyerec I installed realURL
23:59 Denyerec installed ae Urltool
23:59 Denyerec copied in the default config...
23:59 Denyerec then renamed _.htaccess to .htaccess

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