| 00:01 |
bedlamhotel |
Well good luck. Got to go home :) |
| 00:01 |
Denyerec |
hot rats |
| 00:02 |
bedlamhotel |
No, something better for dinner tonight. Finished off the baked rat casserole the other day. |
| 00:02 |
bedlamhotel |
Oh, I see. |
| 00:02 |
j0hndeere |
bedlamhotel: It's excellent with some soy sauce and a dash of paprika |
| 00:03 |
j0hndeere |
My wife likes to add sour cream, as well |
| 00:03 |
bedlamhotel |
Or, alternatively with parmesan cheese. |
| 00:03 |
j0hndeere |
Wouldn't you agree, Ries? |
| 00:04 |
bedlamhotel |
Good night all. |
| 00:04 |
j0hndeere |
good night, human. |
| 00:04 |
j0hndeere |
I too shall take my leave. Much to report to the Elders. |
| 00:05 |
j0hndeere |
The Elders believe it's even money which will happen first: An outside race destroys Earth, or its natives destroy it themselves. |
| 00:05 |
Ries |
j0hndeere: totally agree |
| 00:06 |
j0hndeere |
How sad. I'm growing fond of the place... |
| 00:06 |
j0hndeere |
Good night, and so long! |
| 00:06 |
Ries |
j0hndeere: |
| 00:06 |
Ries |
In that case I don't agree :D |
| 00:07 |
Denyerec |
Ries |
| 00:07 |
Denyerec |
I got realURL working on the welsh law site |
| 00:07 |
Denyerec |
BUT |
| 00:08 |
Denyerec |
I copied the config to another site and now I get nothing but errors... :( |
| 00:08 |
Denyerec |
Is there any small chance you could take a quick look at it ? |
| 00:14 |
Ries |
sure |
| 00:15 |
Ries |
can you give me 10 minutes? |
| 00:15 |
Ries |
Karina just came with some food |
| 00:18 |
Denyerec |
Sur e |
| 00:18 |
Denyerec |
and I know her cooking is a LOT more attractive than my typo3 problems :D |
| 00:18 |
Denyerec |
I thnk it's something to do with the base URL in the .htaccess |
| 00:22 |
ceed |
hey |
| 00:22 |
ceed |
i |
| 00:23 |
ceed |
'm a little confused, i created a new user - when that user creates content on a page, it is not automatically referenced to the page |
| 00:23 |
ceed |
so it's not shown on the page |
| 00:24 |
ceed |
what config setting did i miss? :) |
| 00:24 |
Denyerec |
Who is the page owner |
| 00:24 |
Denyerec |
if you created the pages as admin, they won't be writeable by your new user |
| 00:24 |
Denyerec |
so you will have to go to "acccess" and make all pages writeable by your user / users group |
| 00:25 |
ceed |
created by the user |
| 00:26 |
ceed |
the user is only allowed to edit the drafts space btw |
| 00:26 |
ceed |
just double checked the permissions, it's owned by the user |
| 00:27 |
Denyerec |
hummm |
| 00:29 |
ceed |
humpf |
| 00:29 |
ceed |
when the user edits the live workspace it works |
| 00:30 |
ceed |
i reckon the user first has to create the page, which then needs to be published, and then he can add content which is referenced |
| 00:30 |
Denyerec |
Wait something's coming to me. |
| 00:30 |
Denyerec |
if you create a page in the draft workspace I think it creates a placeholder on live. |
| 00:30 |
Denyerec |
I read about this the other day |
| 00:31 |
Denyerec |
it's in "inside typo3" in the section on versioning. |
| 00:31 |
ceed |
i was wrong anyway, i created content in a non-published space |
| 00:33 |
ceed |
can you point me to a solution? |
| 00:33 |
ceed |
i'm a little lost here |
| 00:34 |
Denyerec |
So you are trying to create a content element in the draft space? |
| 00:35 |
ceed |
i want the user to be able to create a page, then create content elements in it (referenced ;) in the drafts space - preview it and then submit it to a reviewer |
| 00:35 |
Denyerec |
And when you create the page, then create the content element, the content element displays as not referenced anywhere? |
| 00:36 |
ceed |
that seems to be the case |
| 00:36 |
Denyerec |
Hmmm |
| 00:36 |
ceed |
usually i get a 1 in the [Ref.] column, what happens with the new user in the drafts space is an empty column |
| 00:38 |
Denyerec |
I've never tried that to be honest |
| 00:38 |
Denyerec |
but it "should" work |
| 00:39 |
ceed |
yeah i thougt so as wel |
| 00:39 |
ceed |
well |
| 00:42 |
Ries |
Denyerec: |
| 00:44 |
Denyerec |
lo |
| 00:45 |
Denyerec |
this is the URL: http://sozutux.dyndns.org/bsctypo/ |
| 00:45 |
Denyerec |
as you can see, no pages function |
| 01:03 |
ceed |
i found someone else with the same problem |
| 01:03 |
ceed |
no solution there as well |
| 01:09 |
Ries |
ceed: it's a mis configuration... |
| 01:10 |
ceed |
Ries: i suspected that, can you point me in the right direction? |
| 01:11 |
Ries |
ceed: that often happens when there was no proper rootpage_id set in the real URl config |
| 01:11 |
Ries |
or it can be that the domain name was filled in wrong, In den's case he used DEFAULT_ so it had to be the rootpage_id |
| 01:12 |
ceed |
are you referencing my problem or Denyerec's ? |
| 01:12 |
Denyerec |
Yours. |
| 01:12 |
Ries |
ceed: Den's problem... I didn't read about your problem |
| 01:12 |
Denyerec |
oh doh. |
| 01:12 |
Denyerec |
IGNORE ME! |
| 01:12 |
Denyerec |
^^ good advice |
| 01:13 |
ceed |
hehe i felt a little lost on your advice, anyway, ries ;) |
| 01:13 |
Ries |
ceed: If you use worskapce I cannot help you... |
| 01:14 |
ceed |
bugger |
| 01:15 |
Denyerec |
bedlamhotel probably could if he was here. |
| 01:15 |
Denyerec |
or tobi |
| 01:16 |
Denyerec |
I know they've both done stuff with it. |
| 01:16 |
Ries |
ceed: I never used workspaces and properly will not in the near feature |
| 01:16 |
Denyerec |
ceed have you tried reading the versioning section of "inside typo3" ? |
| 01:16 |
Denyerec |
It explains in detail how the system works, and might give you something more to go on |
| 01:17 |
Denyerec |
OH FFS |
| 01:17 |
Denyerec |
the RTE was supposed to be fixed. |
| 01:17 |
Denyerec |
GRRRRR! |
| 01:17 |
ceed |
nah i hoped for an easy answer around here |
| 01:17 |
ceed |
:-Ü |
| 01:17 |
ceed |
:-P |
| 01:18 |
Denyerec |
that's something you rarely get :) |
| 01:18 |
Denyerec |
unless you're an idiot like me, which means your problems are usually very simple |
| 01:18 |
ceed |
so many words |
| 01:19 |
Ries |
Denyerec: hehehe... I find you already a guru... really ;) |
| 01:19 |
Denyerec |
Pish posh :P |
| 01:19 |
Denyerec |
Ries do you know which version number of the RTE is supposed to work ? |
| 01:21 |
Ries |
Denyerec: Nope.... downgrade firefox ;) |
| 01:22 |
Ries |
Denyerec: I didn't think it was solved already on TER |
| 01:22 |
Ries |
FF 2.0.0.3 is buggy |
| 01:22 |
Ries |
teh dojo people also have problems |
| 01:23 |
Denyerec |
Yeah |
| 01:23 |
Denyerec |
Stupid thing |
| 01:23 |
Denyerec |
Grr! |
| 01:27 |
Denyerec |
ries you know how you can map a TV item to an attribute ? |
| 01:27 |
ceed |
i found 1.5.1 on the bugtracker |
| 01:27 |
ceed |
working |
| 01:28 |
ceed |
http://bugs.typo3.org/view.php?id=5266 |
| 01:28 |
Denyerec |
I have "1.5.1 Dev" as my RTE and it's deeeead |
| 01:28 |
ceed |
http://bugs.typo3.org/file_download.php?file_id=2433&type=bug |
| 01:28 |
ceed |
"1.5.1a" |
| 01:28 |
ceed |
shown as 1.5.1 (final) on ext manager |
| 01:28 |
ceed |
works |
| 01:29 |
Denyerec |
Hmpf. |
| 01:32 |
Ries |
Denyerec: you want to map to a attribute in TV instead of a tag? |
| 01:32 |
Denyerec |
I am having an idea. |
| 01:32 |
Denyerec |
to make certain FCE's more flexible |
| 01:33 |
Denyerec |
if I can create a drop-down box that is mapped to the CLASS attribute of the wrapper |
| 01:33 |
Denyerec |
I can map to the class attribute easy |
| 01:33 |
Denyerec |
but I don't know how to use the TV "select box" input type. |
| 01:33 |
Denyerec |
I don't see a place to define the values, |
| 01:34 |
Ries |
Denyerec: I never don it, but possible you need to create the list in your DS |
| 01:34 |
Denyerec |
Hmm |
| 01:34 |
Denyerec |
Yeah possibly |
| 01:34 |
Denyerec |
I'll look at the XML |
| 01:34 |
Denyerec |
Yep |
| 01:34 |
Denyerec |
it's right there |
| 01:47 |
Denyerec |
I know it... |
| 01:48 |
ceed |
no i'm lost |
| 01:48 |
ceed |
i happens for my admin as well btw |
| 02:03 |
Denyerec |
:( |
| 02:03 |
Denyerec |
Well |
| 02:03 |
Denyerec |
if you find the answer, let me know tomorrow |
| 02:03 |
Denyerec |
as I'm off to bed, it's 3am here |
| 02:07 |
ceed |
4am here |
| 02:07 |
ceed |
hehe |
| 02:07 |
Denyerec |
eeehs |
| 02:07 |
Denyerec |
Holland? |
| 02:14 |
ceed |
Germany |
| 02:14 |
Ries |
Denyerec: ? |
| 02:15 |
Ries |
Denyerec: In english, when you drink a strong liquor.. we call it in holland a 'borrel' |
| 02:15 |
Ries |
it's the general name for drinking a small glass , like a shot... |
| 02:15 |
Ries |
How would you call it in english? |
| 02:15 |
Denyerec |
You mean "the act of drinking a shot" |
| 02:15 |
Denyerec |
? |
| 02:16 |
Ries |
Hmmm yeaa may be even the act |
| 02:16 |
Denyerec |
well the small glasses are called shotglasses |
| 02:16 |
Denyerec |
the drink is referred to as a shot eg: a shot of whiskey |
| 02:16 |
Ries |
But the general name of the little glass with the liquour is called a borrel, it's what the old guys often drink |
| 02:16 |
Denyerec |
shotglass |
| 02:16 |
Ries |
so the glas with the drink in is called a shot, right? |
| 02:17 |
Denyerec |
If you ordered a "shot" of brandy, you would get a small glass with some brandy in. |
| 02:17 |
Denyerec |
yeah, you'd call it a shot |
| 02:17 |
Denyerec |
tequila for example |
| 02:17 |
Denyerec |
I'm not really the best person to ask, I don't drink! |
| 02:17 |
Ries |
thanks.. it was for karina's website... |
| 02:17 |
Denyerec |
I guessed :) |
| 02:18 |
Denyerec |
Busy translating |
| 02:18 |
Denyerec |
right, I sleep |
| 02:18 |
Denyerec |
gnight! |
| 02:20 |
Ries |
night! |
| 02:20 |
ceed |
the glass is called a pinnchen in germany hehe |
| 02:22 |
Ries |
gerards: !!! |
| 02:27 |
ceed |
ok i'm still lost after cross reading inside typo3 |
| 02:28 |
Ries |
ceed: You are not the first :D |
| 02:28 |
Ries |
ceed: Happen to know a good HTML cleaning classset? |
| 02:28 |
ceed |
isn't tidy implemented somewhere int ypo3? |
| 02:34 |
Denyerec |
you can set it in the install tool |
| 02:35 |
Denyerec |
just watch your charsets :) |
| 02:43 |
Ries |
ceed: I need to clean html from forms that are posted |
| 02:43 |
ceed |
hrm |
| 02:44 |
ceed |
sorry, don't know |
| 02:44 |
ceed |
i'd reckon tidy takes care of that as well |
| 02:46 |
Ries |
ceed: well, I baiscly want to make sure nobody will post javascripts and other stuff |
| 02:52 |
Ries |
ceed: FOUND A SIMPLE CLASS SET ALREADY... |
| 02:52 |
Ries |
sorry for the caps |
| 03:08 |
ceed |
Ries: care to share? :) |
| 03:09 |
ceed |
damn i'm still awake |
| 03:11 |
Ries |
ceed: it's a simpel class |
| 03:11 |
Ries |
ceed: http://www.phpclasses.org/browse/file/13904.html |
| 03:11 |
Ries |
ceed: it's called : cleanhtml.class.php |
| 03:11 |
Ries |
I modified a bit to handle arrays of data |
| 03:30 |
Ries |
this is irritating... you search for something in google, and one of this pages show up high : http://swik.net/Dojo?index&fullCloud |
| 04:29 |
d|g |
hi all |
| 05:40 |
fabb |
is anyone here using ldap for backend user auth? there are so many extensions, old and obsolete ones too, i'm confused |
| 05:41 |
fabb |
actually i need to import the users from ldap into typo3, but still do live validation of the password on the ldap |
| 05:41 |
uschi_ |
no fabb, unfortunately not yet |
| 05:42 |
uschi |
but we will have to do exactly the same thing |
| 05:43 |
fabb |
ok :-) |
| 05:43 |
uschi |
so if you find out something about it, tell it |
| 05:43 |
uschi |
i have never worked with ldap, and the people who should do that part of the project never have any time |
| 05:50 |
just2b |
good morning |
| 06:00 |
just2b |
good morning tobi |
| 06:01 |
tobi |
good morning just2b |
| 06:01 |
tobi |
good morning @all |
| 06:01 |
just2b |
do you have a minute for me? |
| 06:02 |
just2b |
got a problem with CASE ;) |
| 06:03 |
just2b |
this of course doesn't work but you will get the idea > http://phpfi.com/221483 |
| 06:07 |
just2b |
hi dax & zat |
| 06:07 |
zat |
hi just2b, dax77, tobi, & all typoters here ! |
| 06:07 |
just2b |
tobi ?= ;) |
| 06:08 |
dax77 |
moin moin #typo3 |
| 06:09 |
mikhas |
Morning folks |
| 06:09 |
tobi |
just a moment ill have a look just2b |
| 06:10 |
just2b |
anyone problems with icq? |
| 06:10 |
tobi |
yes, service temporary unavailable! |
| 06:10 |
zat |
just2b : yes |
| 06:10 |
zat |
can't connect |
| 06:10 |
just2b |
ok so not the only one ;) |
| 06:11 |
zat |
i think no :) |
| 06:11 |
mikhas |
same here too. |
| 06:12 |
mikhas |
it's one of the seldom time icq fxxxs up and msn don't. ;) |
| 06:12 |
zat |
hehe |
| 06:12 |
tobi |
just2b: you are missing the key.field and also you need to create cObject for every case, example: http://phpfi.com/221485 |
| 06:13 |
just2b |
yeah i don't know what to take as key field if i get the value from an extension |
| 06:13 |
just2b |
so there is no field like in a menu |
| 06:14 |
tobi |
hm if you are using plugin.yourextension the contex should be ok an you can use the fieldname as key.field .. |
| 06:14 |
just2b |
ok ;) |
| 06:14 |
tobi |
else you have to put it somewhere where it can find the field data: records, content etc |
| 06:15 |
mikhas |
Hmm, how can I combine [globalString = IENV:HTTP_HOST = *foreign*] and [globalVar = GP:L = 1] in one line with and OR-connection? Is it possible? |
| 06:15 |
tobi |
yes mikhas [globalString = IENV:HTTP_HOST = *foreign*] [globalVar = GP:L = 1] is default a OR condition |
| 06:16 |
mikhas |
hahaha. it was too simple.. :) |
| 06:16 |
mikhas |
I have some basic programming knowledge but i still think the syntax of typoscript is hard to grasp at. :) |
| 06:18 |
just2b |
tobi, it shows nothing with this code http://phpfi.com/221487 |
| 06:18 |
just2b |
oh missed a dot |
| 06:20 |
just2b |
tobi, i only get the value of the default > http://phpfi.com/221488 not the other "conditions" |
| 06:21 |
tobi |
for testing try it as TEXT with tx_rgboulder_quality.cObject.field=tx_rgboulder_quality and look if the output is ok |
| 06:21 |
tobi |
also if i remember right there where some problems when checking 0 with a case .. |
| 06:22 |
just2b |
seems to work |
| 06:22 |
just2b |
ok but there are still values not 0 |
| 06:23 |
just2b |
ups I think your line doesn't work |
| 06:23 |
just2b |
because > tx_rgboulder_quality.cObject.field=name > should present me now the content of field "name", right? |
| 06:23 |
tobi |
yes |
| 06:24 |
just2b |
so i guess i need a userfunction? or is there another way |
| 06:25 |
tobi |
hm should also work without userfunction, you just have to fiend the right point where this field is available |
| 06:27 |
just2b |
not really an idea how to do so |
| 06:28 |
tobi |
if you dont mind givin me backend access i would play around |
| 06:29 |
just2b |
it is not my installation, so I don't mind :D |
| 06:29 |
tobi |
ok :) |
| 06:32 |
uschi |
hey tobi und just2b :-)) |
| 06:33 |
just2b |
hi uschi |
| 06:34 |
zat |
hi uschi |
| 06:34 |
uschi |
morning zat |
| 06:34 |
uschi |
moin dax77 |
| 06:34 |
tobi |
good morning uschi |
| 06:36 |
uschi |
could you please help me to understand something concerning be rights? |
| 06:36 |
uschi |
this is about db mounts |
| 06:36 |
uschi |
and the element browser |
| 06:37 |
dax77 |
heya uschi :) |
| 06:37 |
uschi |
if i have editors that shall only be able to edit a certain part of the page tree, and i set the appropriate db mount for them |
| 06:38 |
uschi |
not only the page tree will be restricted to this db mount but also the element browser |
| 06:39 |
uschi |
this is bad if the user wants to set a link to a page outside her/his dbmount |
| 06:39 |
dax77 |
uschi: what element browser are you talking about? |
| 06:39 |
uschi |
how do you solve this problem |
| 06:39 |
uschi |
is there more then one? |
| 06:39 |
dax77 |
ah ok |
| 06:40 |
uschi |
dax77, e.g. the one that shows up when you set a link in rte |
| 06:40 |
dax77 |
uschi, you could enable the other pages for this user group and only give them read-rights |
| 06:41 |
uschi |
then in the page tree they will see the whole tree as well, right? |
| 06:41 |
dax77 |
I think so |
| 06:41 |
uschi |
this is inconvenient because our pagetree is quite large |
| 06:42 |
uschi |
there is a nice option mount as tree root |
| 06:42 |
dax77 |
well, maybe you show them how to create a link without the rte |
| 06:42 |
uschi |
no, definitely not |
| 06:42 |
uschi |
this does not solve the problem |
| 06:43 |
uschi |
in the context menu of a page it is hidden under more options |
| 06:43 |
dax77 |
well, if they are not allowed to see the other pages, than they shouldn't be allowed to link to them either |
| 06:43 |
uschi |
why that? |
| 06:43 |
dax77 |
you can't link to something you can't see ;) |
| 06:44 |
uschi |
well, they could link to it by setting an external link |
| 06:44 |
uschi |
you can see it on the public website |
| 06:44 |
uschi |
dax77, even i do not want to see the page tree all the time, so i go to context menu->more options->mount as tree root |
| 06:45 |
uschi |
but if i want to set a link to a page outside this temporary tree root, i want to see the whole tree in the element browser |
| 06:46 |
dax77 |
uschi: this browser is just another representation of the tree, you can't change one without the other |
| 06:46 |
uschi |
it works with the temporary tree root though |
| 06:47 |
uschi |
how can i set up this for user groups? |
| 06:47 |
uschi |
i will then have a readonly-dbmount-group for the whole tree |
| 06:49 |
uschi |
and then perhaps a nice option or what soever for the editor group of a given part of the tree and that would be my temporary mount |
| 06:49 |
uschi |
the temporary mount does not affect the element browser |
| 06:50 |
dax77 |
uschi: let me search in the code, maybe there is an option |
| 06:50 |
uschi |
thx dax77 :)) |
| 06:57 |
Jigal |
hi uschi, dax77, and all others :-) |
| 06:57 |
uschi |
morning Jigal |
| 06:57 |
zat |
hi Jigal |
| 07:00 |
dax77 |
hi Jigal |
| 07:09 |
dax77 |
uschi: please try options.hideRecords.pages in userTSconfig |
| 07:09 |
max_muetze |
good mornin' |
| 07:09 |
dax77 |
I can't test it here, b/c of the rte bug I haven't fixed |
| 07:09 |
dax77 |
hi max_muetze |
| 07:10 |
max_muetze |
hi dax77 |
| 07:12 |
bauschan |
hi @all ! |
| 07:12 |
max_muetze |
i still like to get my latest coppermine images displayed in the right frame of my typo3-site. now i found out, that i can adress the last images via link. the question now is how i can transfer the image title of the specific image. does anyone have an idea? |
| 07:15 |
uschi |
ok |
| 07:15 |
max_muetze |
hi uschi |
| 07:16 |
dax77 |
hi bauschan |
| 07:16 |
uschi |
thx, dax77, so hideRecords does not necessarily mean that i may not do anything with those records, only that i will not see them? |
| 07:16 |
bauschan |
hi dax77 |
| 07:16 |
dax77 |
correct |
| 07:16 |
bauschan |
parties in the middle of the week should be prohibited by law ;) |
| 07:17 |
bauschan |
I have to get rid of this hangover |
| 07:17 |
elbart |
good morning ;) |
| 07:17 |
dax77 |
uschi: I couldn't find the temporary mountpoint part though |
| 07:17 |
dax77 |
hi elbart |
| 07:18 |
uschi |
well, i shall try it out immediately |
| 07:20 |
uschi |
well if it is not available, perhaps one can make it available through an extension |
| 07:20 |
uschi |
or it is a mere js-thingi |
| 07:21 |
uschi |
-i |
| 07:51 |
Fanty |
anyway to use TCEform stuff like a select box with content from a foreign table in a global place like ext_conf_template.txt or the likes? I have a "library" function that needs template configuration |
| 07:57 |
mikhas |
hmm, odd. When I do a search on a localized material, I will still get the original headers in the result (but the content is localized). Typo3 3.8. Maybe a bug? |
| 08:01 |
tobi |
no, you have to set the language variables for indexed_search mikhas .. eg plugin.tx_indexedsearch._DEFAULT_PI_VARS.lang = 0 |
| 08:03 |
Fanty |
dosent any documentation on ext_conf_template.txt exist? |
| 08:03 |
Fanty |
I cant find anything |
| 08:04 |
mikhas |
tobi: thanks for clarifying things. |
| 08:07 |
mikhas |
tobi: however, is "indexed_searchengine" the same as the standard "Search" in typo3? |
| 08:09 |
tobi |
hm i dont know but i think so |
| 08:23 |
just2b |
no it is not the same |
| 08:30 |
max_muetze |
where should i place a php-call for the template? is templ-setup? i like to include "<?php include("bilder_zufall.php"); ?>" in my template. |
| 08:30 |
max_muetze |
is>in |
| 08:31 |
max_muetze |
i only have a html-template file which seems not to recognise this code.. |
| 08:32 |
max_muetze |
can somebody help me whith this? |
| 08:33 |
tobi |
max_muetze, use a userFunc, sample is here: http://www.typo3wizard.com/de/snippets/allgemeine-probleme-und-loesungen/einfache-userfunc.html |
| 08:37 |
max_muetze |
ah looks nice, i suppose i have to exchange the included script against my own one |
| 08:37 |
mikhas |
about my problem earlier, getting original header on foreign-language searches. Here's the solution: http://www.typo3.net/forum/list/list_post//23971/?pid92482 |
| 08:37 |
mikhas |
It could be fixed in more recent typo3 versions though, I applied this in 3.8.0 |
| 08:40 |
zat |
tobi : what a nice site typo3wizard with all snippets :) |
| 08:58 |
fabb |
off-topic: i'm looking for someone german for voice recordings of text, not a programmer, for a couple hours. saw that there are many germans hanging out here so i thought i'd give it a try :-) |
| 09:05 |
max_muetze |
can u please tell me what this error means: Fatal error: Class 'cpm' not found in /is/htdocs/www/typo3/fileadmin/bilder_neueste.php on line 3? i am not very familar with php... (code:http://phpfi.com/221513) |
| 09:05 |
max_muetze |
http://phpfi.com/221513 |
| 09:05 |
reber |
hi all |
| 09:06 |
reber |
have a fine day |
| 09:09 |
zat |
you too |
| 09:09 |
zat |
hi reber |
| 09:09 |
reber |
hi zat |
| 09:10 |
reber |
how are you ? |
| 09:10 |
reber |
who did the typo3 french site ? Is it you ? |
| 09:20 |
Franzen |
Hi everybody. Have a question I hope some of you might have the answer to.. I have a typo3 site, and this problem have occured on one site before this, the "right" click function with the mouse stops to work in the BE of Typo3. In other words I dont get the menu with Create New Page, Hide contents etc. Any one might know what have gone wrong? |
| 09:23 |
zat |
reber : why ? |
| 09:24 |
Denyerec |
Franzen |
| 09:24 |
max_muetze |
Franzen: did you try to left click onto the page symbols? |
| 09:24 |
Denyerec |
You don't right click! :) |
| 09:24 |
Denyerec |
You left click on the icons... |
| 09:24 |
max_muetze |
;) |
| 09:25 |
Franzen |
Sorry, left click i mean, and yeah it dosen´t wrok |
| 09:25 |
reber |
zat, just curious |
| 09:26 |
reber |
interesting this typo3wizard.com site |
| 09:26 |
Franzen |
When i click on any icon on the page nothing happens |
| 09:26 |
reber |
zat, and because your nick appears on the site |
| 09:27 |
max_muetze |
Franzen: tried another browser yet? |
| 09:27 |
max_muetze |
or cleared all caches? |
| 09:27 |
Franzen |
IE 7 and FF |
| 09:27 |
Franzen |
all caches have been cleared |
| 09:29 |
max_muetze |
i am very new at typo3 so i cannot provide help for t3-related problems still.. but i would try it again on another machine for being sure of client related failures.. |
| 09:31 |
Franzen |
hm.. Will try and start up a Virtual machine and see if a clean XP copy will work.. howerver FF detects 15 warnings when i login to the typo3 BE? :-/ |
| 09:31 |
zat |
reber : hehe, yes i will participate ine the new version of the site, are u french ? |
| 09:32 |
max_muetze |
Franzen: and what type of warnings? |
| 09:32 |
max_muetze |
cleared also the typo3 caches? |
| 09:33 |
Franzen |
hang on will list the errors... yeah all caches cleared |
| 09:34 |
max_muetze |
zat: can u provide any help to http://www.typo3wizard.com/de/snippets/allgemeine-probleme-und-loesungen/einfache-userfunc.html? |
| 09:34 |
max_muetze |
i don't get any content on my site with this... |
| 09:35 |
reber |
zat, yes. Is the eyrolles book the only one available in french ? |
| 09:36 |
Franzen |
t3ajax has no properties |
| 09:36 |
Franzen |
showClickmenu_ajax(undefined)alt_db_navframe.p... (line 143) |
| 09:36 |
Franzen |
onreadystatechange() |
| 09:36 |
Franzen |
typo3/alt_clickmenu.php?tanle?pages-... |
| 09:37 |
Franzen |
all errors are consering the alt_clickmenu.php file |
| 09:37 |
max_muetze |
Franzen: is it an extension? then i would try to unload it first.. |
| 09:39 |
Denyerec |
Franzen |
| 09:39 |
Denyerec |
which version of typo |
| 09:40 |
Franzen |
4.0.4 |
| 09:46 |
Denyerec |
mmm |
| 09:47 |
Fanty |
any "auto redirect on login -- go to the the page you were on last time you were in the system" extensions exist? |
| 09:51 |
eeos |
good morning everybody! |
| 09:53 |
zatmania |
hi eeos |
| 09:58 |
eeos |
zatmania HI |
| 09:58 |
zatmania |
:) |
| 09:59 |
Denyerec |
I *always* forget this |
| 10:00 |
Denyerec |
when creating filemounts if I select relative, what would I enter to mount the directory: /fileadmin/user_upload/ |
| 10:00 |
Denyerec |
? |
| 10:06 |
bauschan |
Denyerec: user_upload/ |
| 10:07 |
Denyerec |
thanks bauschan |
| 10:07 |
bauschan |
np |
| 10:08 |
eeos |
I am trying to switch off the field 'name' in the BE web user creation form of sr_feuser_register, without swicthing off 'first_name' and 'last_name' fields. I have been reading TSref + TSconfig, and I have tried all the possible combination but cannot do it. |
| 10:08 |
eeos |
anyone with a clue? |
| 10:09 |
m4rtijn |
hi hi |
| 10:10 |
Stasik |
hi, i have a question, reguarding tt_news |
| 10:11 |
m4rtijn |
does anyone know why I cant see my user groups, which I created in a subfolder, in the 'Access' menu point in typo3 background? |
| 10:12 |
m4rtijn |
ask away Stasik |
| 10:13 |
Stasik |
every time i add news, they do not appear on the website |
| 10:13 |
Stasik |
i have to make them visible first, and then clear the cache |
| 10:13 |
Stasik |
making visible is ok.. but clearing cache makes me mad |
| 10:15 |
m4rtijn |
hmm? do you have to clear the cache every time you create a news record? |
| 10:15 |
Stasik |
yea |
| 10:15 |
Denyerec |
In the BE groups permissions, what do I need to remove to get rid of these two fields: http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j166/denyerec/roguefields.png |
| 10:15 |
m4rtijn |
clear the typo3 cache or the browser cache? |
| 10:15 |
Denyerec |
martin, I think users and groups have to be on the rootpage, no? |
| 10:16 |
m4rtijn |
im not sure Denyerec.. with users im quite sure they dont have to be on root.. but usergroups i dont know |
| 10:17 |
m4rtijn |
Stasik, did u try just clearing the cache of your internet browser |
| 10:17 |
m4rtijn |
with ctrl + F5 |
| 10:17 |
bauschan |
m4rtijn: Backend Usergroups are found in the root of the page tree where only "admin" users can edit them. |
| 10:19 |
m4rtijn |
hmm, the fe_user registration extension manual reads: Create a System Folder page that will contain the records of frontend users created by the extension. Set the TS template constant pid to the page id of this folder. Under the System Folder, create two Frontend User Groups. |
| 10:19 |
Stasik |
i`m such an idiot |
| 10:19 |
Stasik |
bingo, danke |
| 10:19 |
m4rtijn |
np stasik |
| 10:20 |
m4rtijn |
im a bit confused by "Under the System Folder, create two Frontend User Groups. " |
| 10:20 |
m4rtijn |
under? = in ? |
| 10:26 |
m4rtijn |
bauschan ? any idea |
| 10:26 |
eeos |
m4rtijn yes |
| 10:27 |
m4rtijn |
did u ever use the fe_registration plugin eeos? |
| 10:28 |
m4rtijn |
because i created the usergroups.. in the subfolder, and set the usergroups correctly in the constant editor.. but when I create a user its not assigned to the groups |
| 10:31 |
ceed |
heyhey, I got a problem with 4.1 here, when i enter the draft workspace and create a new sub-page, and then create new pagecontent on that subpage, the content is not referenced to the subpage |
| 10:31 |
bauschan |
Denyerec: TCEFORM.your_table_name.fieldname.disabled = 1 |
| 10:31 |
Denyerec |
:D |
| 10:31 |
ceed |
is that a known problem or is that a problem on my side? |
| 10:31 |
bauschan |
Denyerec: in Page TSconfig |
| 10:31 |
ceed |
morning Denyerec |
| 10:31 |
Denyerec |
lo ceed |
| 10:31 |
Denyerec |
you have slept too, right ? |
| 10:32 |
ceed |
about 6 hrs |
| 10:33 |
bauschan |
bauschan is off for lunch |
| 10:35 |
m4rtijn |
did nobody every used the fe_user registration extension? pls |
| 10:42 |
m4rtijn |
arr damn.. I didnt read the manual very well.. I entered the usergroup name.. but i need to enter the UID :S |
| 10:43 |
Denyerec |
Gah |
| 10:43 |
Denyerec |
now I am the one with user permission errors |
| 10:43 |
max_muetze |
damn, i can't find the option to activate xmlrpc, do you know where it is situated? |
| 10:44 |
Denyerec |
In my editors group if I insert a FCE, it says "INVALID VALUE" in the DS and TO dropdown boxes |
| 10:44 |
eeos |
m4rtijn of course, or I would not have answered :) |
| 10:45 |
eeos |
I am trying to switch off the field 'name' in the BE web user creation form of sr_feuser_register, without swicthing off 'first_name' and 'last_name' fields. I have been reading TSref + TSconfig, and I have tried all the possible combination but cannot do it. |
| 10:45 |
eeos |
anyone with a clue? |
| 10:45 |
eeos |
max_muetze can you use xml_rpc in typo3? to sync addresses? |
| 10:46 |
max_muetze |
i don't know, but to blog (/w timtab) with external blogging tools |
| 10:47 |
max_muetze |
there is an option somewhere in the t3config.......... |
| 10:47 |
max_muetze |
i mean to activate this |
| 10:53 |
Denyerec |
crap |
| 10:53 |
Denyerec |
I forgot my question |
| 10:54 |
eeos |
are there any know problems using templavoila with version 4.1? |
| 11:00 |
Denyerec |
NOt that I ahve seen so far in setting up a new site. |
| 11:00 |
Denyerec |
Is there a way to set per-page "meta" keywords, with a default set getting used if none are specified? |
| 11:00 |
Denyerec |
or the ones of the parent page being used, and so on, and so on ? |
| 11:01 |
Denyerec |
I don't want the user to have to insert advanced pages all the time, when only the meta keywords are needed. |
| 11:01 |
tobi |
typo3wizard has a snippet about that Denyerec |
| 11:01 |
Denyerec |
the displaying of keyword fields, or sliding them ? |
| 11:02 |
Denyerec |
Also tobi am I right in thinking you have a snippet about making every 1st header in a page a h1, and any other h1's actually a h2 ? |
| 11:02 |
Denyerec |
for content element headers I mean |
| 11:02 |
Denyerec |
not ones inserted in the RTE |
| 11:04 |
Denyerec |
Mmm tobi, your snippet requires they use pagetype advanced |
| 11:05 |
tobi |
yes something similar than for formatting the headers is on typo3wizard |
| 11:05 |
tobi |
yes Denyerec, you could also enable the keywords field for normal pages .. |
| 11:05 |
Denyerec |
How does one do that? |
| 11:05 |
dokma |
hi all |
| 11:06 |
dokma |
anyone ever had an idea of embeding irc client into the backend? |
| 11:06 |
tobi |
changing the tca, i dont remember exactly how |
| 11:06 |
dokma |
seems so logical |
| 11:06 |
Denyerec |
dokma - loads of work for precisely no gain? |
| 11:06 |
dokma |
well... there is gain if you thikn about it |
| 11:07 |
dokma |
the goal would be for all backend users to be in one huge channel by default |
| 11:07 |
Denyerec |
windows/osx/linux/etc multitask so Typo doesn't have to :) |
| 11:07 |
dokma |
true |
| 11:07 |
Denyerec |
Unless you're talking about, for example, a large company site, where all the editors could chat. |
| 11:07 |
dokma |
no |
| 11:07 |
dokma |
I was thinking globally |
| 11:07 |
Denyerec |
In which case perhaps the OS is best left to that task :) |
| 11:07 |
Denyerec |
I mean look... we're all here! :D |
| 11:08 |
Denyerec |
;) |
| 11:08 |
dokma |
yeah... it took me about 2 years to find this place |
| 11:08 |
Denyerec |
damn |
| 11:08 |
dokma |
because I wasnt looking |
| 11:08 |
Denyerec |
True |
| 11:08 |
dokma |
if I had a small area with an irc client embeded in the be |
| 11:08 |
Denyerec |
IRC is just one of those things I look for first |
| 11:08 |
Denyerec |
wont't touch an OSS project without an irc channel tbh |
| 11:08 |
dokma |
i would have found this a long time ago |
| 11:09 |
dokma |
well since I'm here |
| 11:10 |
dokma |
here is my last issue I couldn't solve |
| 11:10 |
dokma |
I failed to update the list of extensions from the TER |
| 11:10 |
dokma |
even after deleteing the files from typo3temp |
| 11:10 |
dokma |
is there a way to manually update the list? |
| 11:10 |
dokma |
the problem was memory of course |
| 11:11 |
Denyerec |
does it jsut hang? |
| 11:11 |
dokma |
memory issue |
| 11:11 |
Denyerec |
do you run out of memory no matter what you set, though ? |
| 11:11 |
dokma |
what could I set? |
| 11:11 |
Denyerec |
if so that's a php version issue, it was a common bug |
| 11:11 |
Denyerec |
in your pHP config |
| 11:11 |
Denyerec |
you can set the memory limit |
| 11:11 |
dokma |
its shared hosting |
| 11:11 |
Denyerec |
but some versions of pHP crap out anyway |
| 11:11 |
dokma |
have no access |
| 11:11 |
Denyerec |
Oh :/ |
| 11:11 |
dokma |
.htaccess does not make it either |
| 11:12 |
dokma |
i know I can download extensions.xml.gz manually |
| 11:12 |
eeos |
that is very strange. I have installed 4.1 with TV 1.3.0 |
| 11:12 |
dokma |
is there a way to manually import it into the system? |
| 11:12 |
dokma |
I'm on 4.0.3 i think |
| 11:14 |
eeos |
but when I clik on the web > page nothing happens, that is TV does not edit the page (of course I have done all the mapping and blah blah) |
| 11:14 |
eeos |
as if TV was not working |
| 11:14 |
eeos |
never happened before |
| 11:14 |
eeos |
help! |
| 11:14 |
dokma |
Fatal error: Out of memory (allocated 320339968) (tried to allocate 4455752 bytes) in /home2/attadcom/public_html/typo3_src/typo3/mod/tools/em/class.em_xmlhandler.php on line 141 |
| 11:15 |
dokma |
the numbers are huge |
| 11:15 |
dokma |
so I assumed a bug someplace |
| 11:15 |
dokma |
maybee even php |
| 11:17 |
m4rtijn |
anyone an idea on this: As soon as I set my transparent GEMU text to niceText.. it disappears |
| 11:17 |
Denyerec |
check your IM/GD config ? |
| 11:18 |
Denyerec |
Oh man the API doc sucks so badly. |
| 11:18 |
Denyerec |
I mean it's nice that there *IS* a document, don't get me wrong. |
| 11:18 |
eeos |
Denyerec +1 |
| 11:18 |
Denyerec |
But I always thought it was traditional in documentation for functions to, you know, EXPLAIN WHAT THE FSKING PARAMETERS ARE. |
| 11:18 |
m4rtijn |
the config is fine Denyerec |
| 11:19 |
Denyerec |
t3lib_extMgm::addToAllTCAtypes("fe_users","tx_myext_newfield;;;;1-1-1, tx_myext_another_field"); |
| 11:19 |
Denyerec |
THAT is not documentation. |
| 11:19 |
dokma |
is this a good place to hire typo3 developers for cold hard cash? |
| 11:19 |
Denyerec |
That is outright abuse. |
| 11:19 |
Denyerec |
yes dokma |
| 11:19 |
Denyerec |
it is |
| 11:19 |
dokma |
nice |
| 11:19 |
reber |
Does anyone know if common templating cObjects is more stable than TemplaVoila ? |
| 11:19 |
dokma |
someone tell me an hourly rate |
| 11:19 |
bauschan |
re |
| 11:20 |
dokma |
how much you charge? |
| 11:20 |
Denyerec |
£35 p/h (UK) |
| 11:20 |
dokma |
that is 35 pounds? |
| 11:20 |
dokma |
what is that in euro? |
| 11:20 |
Denyerec |
reber depending on your requirements, TV seems to me to be a perfectly suitable templating system. |
| 11:20 |
Denyerec |
Unsure dok |
| 11:20 |
Denyerec |
Maybe 50 ? |
| 11:21 |
dokma |
that is a nice hourly rate |
| 11:21 |
Denyerec |
When I can get it :S |
| 11:21 |
dokma |
way to much for my country |
| 11:21 |
Denyerec |
Depends how long you think things would take |
| 11:21 |
dokma |
i get about 10 times less |
| 11:21 |
dokma |
i see |
| 11:21 |
Denyerec |
I set the hourly rate at that so that clients don't call me up 10 hours a day asking me to check their spelling :) |
| 11:21 |
dokma |
i should raise my expectations |
| 11:21 |
dokma |
thats smart |
| 11:21 |
pulponair |
hi there |
| 11:22 |
dokma |
today is my last day as an employee |
| 11:22 |
dokma |
as of tommorow I work in my own company |
| 11:22 |
Denyerec |
And if they're prepared to pay €50 p/h for a spellcheck, that's fine by me. |
| 11:22 |
Denyerec |
I've never been employed. |
| 11:22 |
dokma |
so I guess I'll be needing some t3 developers here and there |
| 11:22 |
m4rtijn |
where r u from dokma? |
| 11:22 |
Denyerec |
I left university and figured I'd just do my own thing. |
| 11:22 |
dokma |
hi pulponair |
| 11:22 |
pulponair |
dokma: hard to find atm |
| 11:22 |
Denyerec |
hey pulponair |
| 11:22 |
Denyerec |
pulponair how good are you with the TCA ? |
| 11:22 |
dokma |
Croatia here |
| 11:23 |
Denyerec |
Cot of living in Croatia is about 10x less than the UK |
| 11:23 |
pulponair |
denyerec: master skill |
| 11:23 |
Denyerec |
so €5 p/h is probably OK |
| 11:23 |
Denyerec |
pulponair pm for a sexc |
| 11:23 |
Denyerec |
haha |
| 11:23 |
Denyerec |
lucky I got that c in there |
| 11:23 |
Denyerec |
¬)¬ |
| 11:23 |
dokma |
lol |
| 11:23 |
Denyerec |
dokma how much does a basic house cost in Croatia? |
| 11:24 |
dokma |
you can get a start at about 100000 Euro |
| 11:24 |
m4rtijn |
any idea why the text disappears even if the IM config is OK deny? |
| 11:24 |
fred^ |
Denyerec whats the best horizontal dropdown if i wanted large menu items, like "Produkt/Oppdrag" ? you know? |
| 11:24 |
dokma |
in the most expensive areas |
| 11:24 |
dokma |
pretty cheap |
| 11:24 |
Denyerec |
fred^ |
| 11:24 |
Denyerec |
look at http://wla.systemcms.com |
| 11:24 |
Denyerec |
See if that's what you mean |
| 11:25 |
eeos |
dokma does not sound THAT cheap |
| 11:25 |
Denyerec |
dokma - the crappy house I live in would be about €290,000 here |
| 11:25 |
fred^ |
i tried son of suckerfish.. but |
| 11:25 |
Denyerec |
if I could afford to buy it. AHAHAHAHAHAhahahaa. *gasp* |
| 11:25 |
fred^ |
i have to set a width thats desirable with sos, and then every li take upon that width. however, when i only have a menu item like "Hjem", that one will take up uneccessary space and will look wierd. if im not mistaken |
| 11:25 |
fred^ |
yeah, like that |
| 11:26 |
dokma |
yeah |
| 11:26 |
Denyerec |
Yeah that's SOS with keyboard accessibility mod. |
| 11:26 |
eeos |
Denyerec the average price of houses is appalling |
| 11:26 |
dokma |
UK is way too expensive |
| 11:26 |
eeos |
dokma :( |
| 11:26 |
Denyerec |
fred^ - you just need to train your CSS-fu |
| 11:26 |
Denyerec |
the failling of SOS is the default application of a block width to the LI's |
| 11:26 |
dokma |
eeos where are you from? |
| 11:27 |
eeos |
UK |
| 11:27 |
Denyerec |
Hey eeos - which bit |
| 11:27 |
fred^ |
i know, im pretty novice wth CSS |
| 11:27 |
eeos |
West yorksihre, not far from Haworth (Bronte country) |
| 11:27 |
eeos |
price are rocketing here |
| 11:27 |
fred^ |
like, only now im just starting out with table-less layouts |
| 11:27 |
Denyerec |
crap fred |
| 11:27 |
fred^ |
yeah |
| 11:27 |
Denyerec |
You've got some catching up to do |
| 11:27 |
fred^ |
and my boss do everythng in tables |
| 11:27 |
fred^ |
oh yeah, yeah do |
| 11:28 |
fred^ |
my current issue is that a client suddenly got response that his site doesnt work in safari |
| 11:28 |
fred^ |
shit is unstyled |
| 11:28 |
fred^ |
html > body > table #Table_01 > tbody > tr > td #content > table > tbody > tr > td > h1 |
| 11:28 |
fred^ |
^ |
| 11:28 |
eeos |
anyway, I would like to sed the output of the tt_product plug in, inparticular the list of products, into a TV marker. |
| 11:28 |
fred^ |
so im redoing it in css and html 4.01 strict |
| 11:28 |
eeos |
I am puzzled anyoe knows how to do it? |
| 11:28 |
eeos |
Tehre is nothing in the documentation. |
| 11:29 |
Denyerec |
eeos - do you normally insert it onto a page? |
| 11:29 |
eeos |
Denyerec yes |
| 11:30 |
Denyerec |
Well, can you not stick it on a page that's not in your menu, and use a RECORD / CONTENT call to grab the pid ? |
| 11:30 |
ceed |
anybody here got a clue on workspaces? |
| 11:30 |
Denyerec |
Still going eh ceed? :/ |
| 11:30 |
ceed |
i |
| 11:30 |
ceed |
sure |
| 11:30 |
ceed |
hehe |
| 11:30 |
ceed |
i just subscribed to the mailing lists |
| 11:30 |
dokma |
http://www.nekretnine.net/houses/showAdvert,22728,14,1.html |
| 11:30 |
dokma |
135000 ¬ |
| 11:30 |
eeos |
Denyerec that is what I have been doing up to now, but I wanted to understand how to do it with TV |
| 11:30 |
ceed |
where is the "one-click-buy" ? |
| 11:31 |
eeos |
because of the special requirements of a customer |
| 11:31 |
Denyerec |
I would just do that, and stick the pid into a TSOP |
| 11:31 |
Denyerec |
(Typoscript Object Path) |
| 11:31 |
dokma |
:) lol |
| 11:31 |
Denyerec |
You can configure an entire plugin through TS if you want, but I don't know as it would be time efficient. |
| 11:33 |
ceed |
Denyerec: what people did you suggest me to ask? |
| 11:33 |
fred^ |
the conditional statements and all on that site Denyerec, they each serve a purpose? |
| 11:33 |
eeos |
Denyerec I do not understand what you mean really. |
| 11:33 |
fred^ |
i have tons to catch up on |
| 11:33 |
eeos |
Denyerec did you mean the uid? |
| 11:33 |
Denyerec |
Yeah fred |
| 11:33 |
Denyerec |
pm |
| 11:33 |
Denyerec |
eeos - the page ID |
| 11:33 |
Denyerec |
as that will trap localisation settings also |
| 11:34 |
Denyerec |
content element UID may not |
| 11:34 |
Denyerec |
I don't know. |
| 11:34 |
Denyerec |
eeos |
| 11:34 |
Denyerec |
You know what a TSOP is ? |
| 11:36 |
eeos |
Denyerec yes |
| 11:36 |
Denyerec |
ok |
| 11:36 |
Denyerec |
so say you have tv.ProductBox |
| 11:36 |
eeos |
Denyerec I called it lib.products |
| 11:36 |
eeos |
:P |
| 11:36 |
eeos |
stupid name |
| 11:37 |
Denyerec |
http://phpfi.com/221542 |
| 11:37 |
Denyerec |
I always call tv paths tv.Something |
| 11:37 |
Denyerec |
so they stand out as my TSOP's |
| 11:37 |
Denyerec |
fred PM dude |
| 11:37 |
dokma |
Q: I still use automaketemplate for my templating. Any reason to switch to TV? |
| 11:37 |
fred^ |
yeah im replying Denyerec |
| 11:37 |
m4rtijn |
hmm, why does my navigation disappear with niceText set? IM dos windows pop up.. so it does create some Gifs.. |
| 11:37 |
fred^ |
are your client wierd? |
| 11:38 |
eeos |
Denyerec ok. alway call them lib, but that does not make a big difference. |
| 11:38 |
Denyerec |
ah fred |
| 11:38 |
Denyerec |
register with nickserv |
| 11:38 |
fred^ |
oh |
| 11:38 |
fred^ |
yeah |
| 11:38 |
Denyerec |
dokma - I;ve never used automaketemplate, TV just seemed to make a whole lot more sense |
| 11:38 |
eeos |
Denyerec what you do is to extract the tt_content and send it into tv.tsop |
| 11:38 |
dokma |
den how do you know if you never tried it? |
| 11:39 |
dokma |
i don't know what is the idea behind Tv |
| 11:39 |
Denyerec |
dokma - I lie a little |
| 11:39 |
m4rtijn |
I didnt use TV yet.. I dont see any advantages in it.. but im sure there are |
| 11:39 |
eeos |
Denyerec should it not be > tv.productBox |
| 11:39 |
dokma |
hehe |
| 11:39 |
Denyerec |
I started the normal template tutorial |
| 11:39 |
Denyerec |
and thought |
| 11:39 |
Denyerec |
"ARGH" |
| 11:39 |
Denyerec |
Tv was just a load easier |
| 11:39 |
dokma |
really |
| 11:39 |
Denyerec |
yes eeos |
| 11:39 |
dokma |
I never tried TV |
| 11:39 |
Denyerec |
Good catch :) |
| 11:39 |
Denyerec |
that TSOP won't be doing much otherwise |
| 11:39 |
Denyerec |
:) |
| 11:40 |
dokma |
will give it a shot |
| 11:40 |
m4rtijn |
hmm..my books need ca. 100 pages for template design explanations.. and 300 for TV.. |
| 11:40 |
dokma |
can you describe the idea behind TV in a few sentences? |
| 11:40 |
m4rtijn |
so I thought TV must be more difficult |
| 11:40 |
dokma |
perhaps more powerful? |
| 11:40 |
m4rtijn |
according to my books.. dokma, the advantage is no need for typoscript knowledge.. |
| 11:41 |
dokma |
wow |
| 11:41 |
tobi |
? |
| 11:41 |
dokma |
i knew not of that one! |
| 11:41 |
tobi |
typoscript knowledge is imho also necessary for tv |
| 11:41 |
tobi |
maybe a bit less, but also necessary .. |
| 11:41 |
Denyerec |
OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH MAN |
| 11:42 |
m4rtijn |
yeah.. my book is not very smart :p |
| 11:42 |
tobi |
the main difference is to not place the markes in you html, but point and click them .. also to define the types of the elements that come into this subpart is a feature of templavoila |
| 11:42 |
dokma |
hmmm |
| 11:42 |
dokma |
that is interesting |
| 11:42 |
Denyerec |
martin |
| 11:42 |
Denyerec |
I can set up a TV based site in about an hour |
| 11:42 |
tobi |
there is alot more, eg that the backend gets exactly the mapped subparts instead of default 4 columns |
| 11:43 |
dokma |
i see |
| 11:43 |
Denyerec |
You can also use a simplee xtension to modify the backend to look like your column/content layout if you want to |
| 11:43 |
m4rtijn |
hmm.. I can do it in 20 mins.. :p with templates.. a basic one |
| 11:43 |
dokma |
how easy is to get 4 or 3 columns with TV? |
| 11:43 |
tobi |
i can setup a traditional site in less than 10 minutes ... you are faster without tv, but you also have to learn more without tv and for komplex projects tv is definitevly the way to go |
| 11:43 |
Denyerec |
though I can't remember the name of the extension. |
| 11:43 |
Denyerec |
Your basic sites must be a lot more basic than mine :) |
| 11:44 |
tobi |
yes there is one Denyerec, but you have to configure it and you have to use automaketemplate, what i never did. |
| 11:44 |
Denyerec |
Gotta write the CSS first!! |
| 11:44 |
Denyerec |
there is one for TV I'm sure tobi. |
| 11:44 |
dokma |
I'd love to see some of your perk sites |
| 11:44 |
tobi |
without making css and html Denyerec, get it finished .. only typo3 |
| 11:44 |
dokma |
brag! |
| 11:44 |
dokma |
:) |
| 11:44 |
m4rtijn |
basic in my eyes is.. top header, left neavi, center content.. and a nice navigation |
| 11:44 |
Denyerec |
:) |
| 11:44 |
tobi |
Denyerec: the tv one is integrated |
| 11:44 |
Denyerec |
it is ? |
| 11:45 |
Denyerec |
I gotta ask "where" |
| 11:45 |
tobi |
we are making a more or less standard product, less than 10 minutes work to setup .. |
| 11:45 |
dokma |
tobi who is we? |
| 11:45 |
dokma |
company? |
| 11:45 |
tobi |
yes, company |
| 11:45 |
dokma |
can I see your site? |
| 11:46 |
tobi |
sewahotel.com, meinsuedtirol.com are the main portals |
| 11:46 |
tobi |
dont know if there are some references online ;) |
| 11:49 |
Denyerec |
sewahotel did not take 10 minutes :) |
| 11:49 |
tobi |
no, sewahotel was a bigger project ;) |
| 11:49 |
tobi |
10 minutes sites: http://www.hoteltappeiner.com, www.hotel-dolomiten.net |
| 11:49 |
eeos |
tobi sewahotel is awesome |
| 11:50 |
tobi |
sewahotel is nice, but most of the work was done outside of typo3 |
| 11:50 |
Denyerec |
sewahotel scares me |
| 11:50 |
Denyerec |
if that is all typo3, I'm retiring right now |
| 11:50 |
eeos |
tobi what do you mean? |
| 11:51 |
tobi |
all the booking/hotel thing runs outside of typo3, because we need it on other partner sites too |
| 11:51 |
Denyerec |
ah |
| 11:51 |
Denyerec |
so on hotelappeiner the booking / listing thing is not typo |
| 11:51 |
Denyerec |
? |
| 11:52 |
eeos |
tobi :( that is a pity, that was very interesting. |
| 11:52 |
tobi |
no, the booking/listing is external, only a smal typo3 plugin for the searchbox itself |
| 11:52 |
pulponair |
i use to build complex "extensions" without typo3 cause the api is soo ugly |
| 11:52 |
eeos |
pulponair and then you plugged them in? |
| 11:53 |
pulponair |
eeos: yeah ...just using interfaces |
| 11:53 |
max_muetze |
is there an extension for easy file access on the webserver? |
| 11:53 |
zatmania |
hi pulp |
| 11:53 |
tobi |
i also do it this way ... mainly to reuse the "extension" also without typo3 |
| 11:53 |
pulponair |
zatmania: greatings over to france |
| 11:53 |
zatmania |
hehe |
| 11:54 |
Denyerec |
Tell you waht |
| 11:54 |
m4rtijn |
nice pages tobi |
| 11:54 |
Denyerec |
#typo3 is the place to come if you wanna be made to feel really, really small :) |
| 11:54 |
helli_t3w |
lol |
| 11:55 |
pulponair |
zatmania: btw: i meet a french pupil exchange class yesterday ..during my tube ride. |
| 11:55 |
tobi |
thank you |
| 11:55 |
eeos |
pulponair so you could bypass the API? |
| 11:55 |
pulponair |
zatmania: they looked really alternative ... |
| 11:55 |
m4rtijn |
yet.. Im still fighting with my GMENU niceText thingiemabob.. |
| 11:55 |
reber |
pulponair, "alternative" how that ? |
| 11:55 |
m4rtijn |
does the nicetext have problems with transparency? |
| 11:56 |
pulponair |
eeos: not really but i would never write a huge extensino using t3 ..instead i would use cake or simphone and just create small interface t3 extensions .. |
| 11:56 |
zatmania |
pulp : original one ? |
| 11:56 |
pulponair |
zatmania: yeah |
| 11:56 |
eeos |
pulponair cake / simphone???? |
| 11:56 |
zatmania |
symfony is used here |
| 11:56 |
pulponair |
eeos: yes ...popular mvc frameworks |
| 11:56 |
pulponair |
eeos: like struts in the java world |
| 11:57 |
eeos |
pulponair do you mean you used to rite the extension for typo3? |
| 11:58 |
eeos |
pulponair or were they written for somthing else? |
| 11:59 |
pulponair |
eeos: sammple: if i had a t3 site and the client would ask for a huge extension like a shop or something ...i wouldnt start to write a t3 extension...i would start writing a shop and a t3-shop interface extensino ...got it? |
| 11:59 |
eeos |
pulponair because you can use php cake, but develop for typo3 |
| 11:59 |
eeos |
or do you have to have rails? |
| 11:59 |
Ries |
morning guys |
| 12:00 |
eeos |
pulponair yes, this is what I thought. would the shop work stand alone? |
| 12:00 |
pulponair |
eeos: yes ...that is the benefit .. |
| 12:00 |
pulponair |
eeos: imho t3 extensions are just for small things |
| 12:00 |
eeos |
pulponair so it is only an interface for data exchange eventually |
| 12:00 |
pulponair |
eeos: like guestbocks small lists or news etc... |
| 12:00 |
eeos |
pulponair typo3 <-> your shop for example |
| 12:01 |
pulponair |
eeos: backend integration, datasource, administration etc |
| 12:01 |
eeos |
pulponair because the API is not well documented as well, unfortunately |
| 12:01 |
pulponair |
eeos: yes...like this |
| 12:01 |
pulponair |
eeos: yes and it is pretty weak, outdated, slow and uncompfortable |
| 12:02 |
eeos |
pulponair :D all these advantages? |
| 12:02 |
eeos |
pulponair when you said simphone did you mean symphony? |
| 12:03 |
pulponair |
eoss: t3 <-> t3inferface ext <-> particular custom module |
| 12:03 |
pulponair |
eeos: oh yes right .. |
| 12:03 |
pulponair |
eeos: benefit reddot <-> reddotinterface extension <-> same custom module |
| 12:04 |
eeos |
pulponair reddot ? |
| 12:04 |
pulponair |
eeos: another pupulare cms |
| 12:04 |
eeos |
pulponair ah |
| 12:04 |
pulponair |
pupular |
| 12:04 |
pulponair |
aeh |
| 12:04 |
pulponair |
popular |
| 12:04 |
pulponair |
:) |
| 12:04 |
eeos |
pulponair custom module -> using symphony for example |
| 12:05 |
pulponair |
eeos: or just pure php/java/ruby what ever you want |
| 12:06 |
eeos |
pulponair oh yes of couse, but then you by pass the api of typo3 and write directly in the database, or modify the code of the core directly |
| 12:06 |
reber |
pulponair, your approach looks particularly interesting. How do you "link" or "plugin" typo3 and for example symphony web site ? Just a basic link and then the users could feel a little weird, or some any other "more integrated" solution ? |
| 12:06 |
Denyerec |
So you would code typo3 be forms and such, that just interact with your own system via an interface? |
| 12:06 |
m4rtijn |
is there anything important i need to know about nicetext apart from IM functioning correctly? |
| 12:06 |
pulponair |
eeos: no i use wouldnt break api rules i would create an abstraction layer |
| 12:07 |
eeos |
pulponair sorry did not understand last sentence |
| 12:07 |
m4rtijn |
TSref doesnt mention anything.. |
| 12:07 |
pulponair |
reber: depends on the particular solution i would try to keep things as transparent as possible |
| 12:07 |
pulponair |
reber: no odd linking |
| 12:07 |
reber |
pulponair, yeap, but how technicaly speaking do you do for making things transparents ? |
| 12:08 |
eeos |
pulponair so you try not to break the API rules, or you do not care about the API rules? |
| 12:08 |
pulponair |
reber: introducing abstraction layers etc |
| 12:09 |
reber |
pulponair, where that ? In typo or the other site ? |
| 12:09 |
eeos |
pulponair does the abstratcion layer realy on the API |
| 12:09 |
eeos |
? |
| 12:09 |
pulponair |
eeos: the t3 interface layer sure |
| 12:10 |
pulponair |
eeos: but the module itself does not know about its datasources and stuff |
| 12:10 |
eeos |
pulponair sorry, I thought you write your own abstraction layer lying on top of the API |
| 12:10 |
eeos |
pulponair: is that right? |
| 12:11 |
pulponair |
independend module <-> datasource layer <-> platform specific datasource (e.g. t3 or what ever) |
| 12:12 |
eeos |
pulponair yes but module <-> abstraction layer <-> typo 3 API <-> typo3 core |
| 12:13 |
pulponair |
yes |
| 12:13 |
Denyerec |
and the abstraction layer is all Flexforms and standard Typo3 interface stuff ? |
| 12:13 |
eeos |
pulponair so you separate data flow from the code interaction |
| 12:13 |
pulponair |
eeos: of course |
| 12:14 |
pulponair |
eeos: this can be done by using webservices etc so all you have to do for t3 integeration is to write a t3 webservice ..thats all |
| 12:14 |
Denyerec |
pulponair I'm a little confused |
| 12:15 |
eeos |
pulponair I lost you here |
| 12:15 |
Denyerec |
hehe |
| 12:15 |
Denyerec |
At least I'm not alone. |
| 12:15 |
Denyerec |
Lets say you wrote some kind of encyclopedia extension. |
| 12:15 |
pulponair |
eeos: t3 ->t3 integration service <---> module |
| 12:15 |
Denyerec |
Is the data stored in the Typo3 database yes/no ? |
| 12:15 |
eeos |
pulponair what do you mean you write a t3 webservice? we just said you have to send the calls to the abstraction layer that is turns realys on the API! |
| 12:16 |
eeos |
Denyerec in MYSQL database underlying your typo3 installtion |
| 12:16 |
Denyerec |
So in the same database as your typo3 tables |
| 12:17 |
Denyerec |
I'm quickly losing track of who is calling what with a webservice! |
| 12:17 |
pulponair |
eeos: yeah eighter layer or webservice what ever you want just a generic interface |
| 12:17 |
eeos |
pulponair what do you mean you write a t3 webservice? we just said you have to send the calls to the abstraction layer that *in* turns *relays* on the *typo3* API! |
| 12:17 |
eeos |
pulponair (I sent it again because of the many mistakes I made) |
| 12:17 |
pulponair |
hehe |
| 12:17 |
eeos |
eighter = higher? |
| 12:17 |
Denyerec |
GOsh, OK I'm going to try and simplify this in my head. |
| 12:17 |
Denyerec |
either |
| 12:17 |
eeos |
:D |
| 12:18 |
Denyerec |
We have the Typo3 core that deals with all things typo. |
| 12:18 |
Denyerec |
and we have Pulp's extension , lets say it's a movie rental service. |
| 12:18 |
Denyerec |
I log into typo3, and I clcick on the rentals module. |
| 12:18 |
Denyerec |
What am I now looking at? |
| 12:18 |
eeos |
pulponair what mvc framework do you use for php? |
| 12:19 |
pulponair |
eeos: cakephp |
| 12:19 |
Denyerec |
Data pulled in from the rental database? |
| 12:19 |
eeos |
pulponair is that your favourite? which is your favourite? |
| 12:19 |
pulponair |
denyerec: lets simplify it to an authentification ok? |
| 12:19 |
pulponair |
eeos: yes |
| 12:19 |
Denyerec |
ok |
| 12:19 |
pulponair |
eeos: cake is |
| 12:19 |
pulponair |
denyerec: ok lets say i log into my custom module |
| 12:20 |
pulponair |
(frontend) |
| 12:20 |
Denyerec |
Uh oh |
| 12:20 |
Denyerec |
Is this a typo3 fe_user logon |
| 12:20 |
Denyerec |
or a logon into a totally different system |
| 12:20 |
Denyerec |
? |
| 12:20 |
pulponair |
wait |
| 12:20 |
pulponair |
the custom module does not know about t3 |
| 12:20 |
Denyerec |
Ok |
| 12:20 |
Denyerec |
so the custom module could be wordpress ? |
| 12:20 |
Denyerec |
a blog or such |
| 12:20 |
pulponair |
it just calls it "auth routine" |
| 12:21 |
pulponair |
the generic one |
| 12:21 |
pulponair |
the authroutin is plugable ...to auth against differen systems |
| 12:22 |
Denyerec |
Ok, so your Cake-programmed system has an authroutine that's generic |
| 12:22 |
pulponair |
in our particular case it is set to auth against a webservice via e.g. soap |
| 12:22 |
Denyerec |
and you write one that hooks into Typo3 via soap |
| 12:22 |
pulponair |
and i got a t3 extension whitch provides a saop login service ..there we are |
| 12:22 |
Denyerec |
OK. |
| 12:23 |
Denyerec |
So now if you create a user for them in typo3, they cna log into the Cake thing too. |
| 12:23 |
eeos |
pulponair have we got a typo3 extension which provides SOAP login service? |
| 12:23 |
pulponair |
t3 -> soap login service <-> auth soap -> custom model |
| 12:23 |
pulponair |
same for any other kind of data exchange |
| 12:24 |
Denyerec |
So pulp. Once the user has logged in, what are they now looking at? |
| 12:24 |
eeos |
pulponair if we have soap login service :D |
| 12:24 |
Denyerec |
Some kind of custom backend ? |
| 12:24 |
pulponair |
so the custom module has to know about soap but not about t3 ..and t3 hast to provide soap (or any other generic interface) |
| 12:24 |
pulponair |
Denyerec: we are talking about the fe part only atm |
| 12:24 |
eeos |
pulponair which is the ole of abstaction layers ;-) |
| 12:24 |
Denyerec |
right |
| 12:24 |
eeos |
s/ole/role |
| 12:25 |
pulponair |
for bakcend integration we have to find another concept ....probably using webservices again but know provided by the custom module |
| 12:25 |
pulponair |
called by t3 |
| 12:25 |
Denyerec |
Was the fe login form they entered their details into part of a typo3 site/template though ? |
| 12:26 |
pulponair |
denyerec: what ever you want |
| 12:26 |
pulponair |
the basic principal is to provide a generic way of application communication |
| 12:26 |
Denyerec |
I'm struggling to follow an example that is simply a login, without really knowing what the user is logging into, or why they are required to log in :/ |
| 12:26 |
pulponair |
so both apps cann interchange data system independent |
| 12:26 |
Denyerec |
I am aware of SOAP / XML-RPC concepts |
| 12:27 |
reber |
pulponair, do you know any examples in the TER that already use webservices like you described here ? |
| 12:27 |
Denyerec |
just not sure how you're suggesting you mix typo3 and your near-standalone code. |
| 12:27 |
pulponair |
denyerec: back to the login thing ..lets assume the fe user hast authentifcated against t3 new login form or similar |
| 12:27 |
Denyerec |
ok |
| 12:28 |
pulponair |
denyerec: now the user switches over to the custom module e.g the shop (without noticing that it is a different app) |
| 12:28 |
Denyerec |
by browsing to that page on the frontend, right |
| 12:28 |
Denyerec |
we're all frontend right now. |
| 12:28 |
pulponair |
yes |
| 12:28 |
Denyerec |
ok |
| 12:29 |
m4rtijn |
hmm.. 2 Gmenus with same fonts, same settings.. one supports german chars.. the other does not.. any ideas? |
| 12:29 |
pulponair |
so the shop validates the session againts it auth layer which queries the t3 webservice and notes that the user is authentificated |
| 12:29 |
Denyerec |
ok |
| 12:29 |
pulponair |
thats all there is to it :) |
| 12:30 |
Denyerec |
ok, but say you have got this shop module. |
| 12:30 |
Denyerec |
From where do you add products? |
| 12:30 |
pulponair |
denyerec: depends on your need ..you could eighter keep it in the shop are define an external datasource like a t3 sysfolder |
| 12:30 |
Denyerec |
the shop's own BE ? |
| 12:31 |
eeos |
Denyerec yes, or using the modules own interface |
| 12:31 |
Ries |
hey guys, if yiou have a form that needs edit, preview and submit functions... and after submit I may want to ask for a username/oassword to login..... how would you in general remember the form values between each step? |
| 12:31 |
pulponair |
both are possible |
| 12:31 |
eeos |
pulponair :) |
| 12:31 |
Ries |
Using sessions, or using hidden form values? |
| 12:31 |
Denyerec |
if you take things out of Typo3 like that surely you are now going to have to code your own I18N stuff, as well as have difficulty with editing permissions and userlevels in your BE? |
| 12:31 |
pulponair |
ries: session |
| 12:31 |
pulponair |
ries: hidden values become ugly ... |
| 12:32 |
eeos |
Denyerec both are possible because the operation is transparently made available to the end user through the abstraction layer |
| 12:32 |
pulponair |
eeos: perfectly right |
| 12:32 |
Denyerec |
But we just agreed the shop has its own backend? |
| 12:32 |
Ries |
pulponair: I thought so already.... How would you handle stupid users trying to add data in two of the same forms at the same time? |
| 12:33 |
Denyerec |
Ries - UID on the form fields |
| 12:33 |
eeos |
Denyerec so it si not really important what you are using. Of ourse, if ou want to edit from typo3 BE you have to implement a module with the functionalities in the BE. |
| 12:33 |
pulponair |
eeos: the so calle interface t3 extension right |
| 12:33 |
pulponair |
called i meant |
| 12:34 |
Denyerec |
So you mean to say I could code a form in the BE of typo, that just sends information to my Shop system's db ? |
| 12:34 |
eeos |
right lucnh time for me Denyerec pulponair enjoy your meail and discussion, I will enjoy my meal :D |
| 12:34 |
pulponair |
denyerec: if you have decidet to keep the data in your shop db right |
| 12:35 |
Denyerec |
well if it was all to be kept inside typo why would you want to start messing with abstraction layers? |
| 12:35 |
Denyerec |
I'm clearly missing some fundamental part of this. |
| 12:36 |
pulponair |
if you keep your data into t3 the shop needs to know that it has to fetch its data from typo3 (the frontend has to know) |
| 12:36 |
pulponair |
it that case the shop talks to its abstraction layer ... |
| 12:36 |
Denyerec |
so when I click "show info" on a product, for example. |
| 12:36 |
pulponair |
yes right |
| 12:37 |
Denyerec |
Ok, so why am I writing this "show info" functionality into a phpCake module in the first place? |
| 12:37 |
pulponair |
denyerec: to keep it generic, and due to the fact that t3 ext api is pain in the ass for larger projects |
| 12:38 |
Denyerec |
Would you want the data in typo3 format in the database so you could use it in various other places inside typo? |
| 12:39 |
Denyerec |
or would you happily create new tables called pulps_separate_product_info |
| 12:39 |
pulponair |
denyerec: if you like |
| 12:39 |
pulponair |
the shop dont cares about naming |
| 12:39 |
pulponair |
it just queries the webservice "gimme product record x" |
| 12:40 |
Denyerec |
and you can insert such a thing easily into the frontend as a plugin using that eID thing to aid with the data connection? |
| 12:40 |
Denyerec |
or is that a different story |
| 12:41 |
Denyerec |
sounds to me almost like you are coding two totally separate systems, and just using a single-sign-on for them, mixed between the extension and typo3 ? |
| 12:42 |
pulponair |
not really |
| 12:43 |
Denyerec |
on the front end , some script hooks into some datasource and displays some data. So PulpShop queries the webservice to information on product X, formats the output and displays the result. |
| 12:44 |
Denyerec |
Thankyou for being so patient. I really do think I'm missing the point here. |
| 12:44 |
pulponair |
hehe |
| 12:44 |
Denyerec |
Take tt_news for example |
| 12:44 |
Denyerec |
that's a fe plugin right? |
| 12:44 |
Denyerec |
so you drop it into a page, and based on its configuration it sucks out some news records, formats them, and displays them. |
| 12:45 |
pulponair |
yes |
| 12:45 |
Denyerec |
OK |
| 12:45 |
Denyerec |
So lets say you wrote some massive news system that sits outside typo3 |
| 12:45 |
pulponair |
so imaging tt_news would be a generic module and not a t3 integrated |
| 12:45 |
Denyerec |
hehe :) |
| 12:45 |
pulponair |
yeah ok |
| 12:45 |
Denyerec |
Right |
| 12:45 |
Denyerec |
so all your news data is now in some other datastructure / system |
| 12:46 |
pulponair |
or at t3 |
| 12:46 |
pulponair |
wherever you want |
| 12:46 |
Denyerec |
Ok. |
| 12:46 |
Denyerec |
so you write a fe plugin |
| 12:46 |
pulponair |
so i want it to suck its news from a t3 sysfolder |
| 12:46 |
Denyerec |
ok |
| 12:46 |
pulponair |
denyerc: a webserice for the news system to interact with |
| 12:47 |
Denyerec |
ok |
| 12:47 |
Denyerec |
so now you can call getLatestPulpNews() |
| 12:47 |
pulponair |
so all you have to do is to tell the news system about this datasource i.e webservice |
| 12:47 |
pulponair |
and from now on it will fetch its records from there |
| 12:47 |
Denyerec |
and it'll hit the webservice up for the latest article |
| 12:47 |
Denyerec |
ok |
| 12:48 |
julioh |
h4x0rs |
| 12:48 |
Denyerec |
I dropped the ball again pulp. |
| 12:48 |
Denyerec |
why would your external news system be storing things in a typo3 sysfolder? |
| 12:48 |
julioh |
hi |
| 12:48 |
Denyerec |
it's external, afterall. |
| 12:48 |
pulponair |
mom phone |
| 12:48 |
Denyerec |
k |
| 12:48 |
Denyerec |
lo julioh |
| 12:48 |
newbie |
exit |
| 12:48 |
newbie |
quit |
| 12:49 |
Denyerec |
heh |
| 12:57 |
eeos-away |
re |
| 12:57 |
Denyerec |
eeos we're still going. |
| 12:57 |
Denyerec |
We got to a critical point, and pulp had to take a phonecall. |
| 12:57 |
pulponair |
Denyerec: back |
| 12:57 |
eeos |
Denyerec yes I see your chat |
| 12:58 |
pulponair |
denyerec: because u perhaps want to edit it from the backend ... |
| 12:58 |
Denyerec |
So the whole process is to make the FE presentation easier ? |
| 12:58 |
eeos |
still, I have 2 problems here, talking about typo3: sending the output of the tt_products plugin inside a tsop. |
| 12:59 |
pulponair |
denyerec: it is to keep things flexibel, platform independend and to avoid t3 api fiddeling |
| 12:59 |
Denyerec |
pulponair I think perhaps part of this problem is I am not too familair with the t3 api for use in the frontend |
| 12:59 |
Denyerec |
I think what you're syaing is that you might have a plugin that displays supreme commander results |
| 12:59 |
Denyerec |
and you can write this very fast in normal php |
| 12:59 |
Denyerec |
and simply hook it to a T3 datasource and Auth system |
| 13:00 |
pulponair |
yes or u need something huge for t3 that is already existing as standalone |
| 13:00 |
Denyerec |
rather than trying to do all the display handling via the T3 API ? |
| 13:00 |
pulponair |
yes |
| 13:00 |
Denyerec |
Right |
| 13:00 |
eeos |
Denyerec also, you can have the module stand alone, which means you can plug it in other CMS |
| 13:00 |
pulponair |
denyerec: t3 api isnt compfortabel and lacks of modern technologie |
| 13:00 |
eeos |
Denyerec OR your is on its own |
| 13:00 |
Denyerec |
pulponair - things like fancy ajax tools/effects etc ? |
| 13:01 |
pulponair |
for example yes |
| 13:01 |
Denyerec |
Ok. |
| 13:01 |
Denyerec |
Now |
| 13:01 |
Denyerec |
last question |
| 13:01 |
Denyerec |
(promise!) |
| 13:01 |
eeos |
Denyerec sorry, or *use* *it* on its own |
| 13:01 |
pulponair |
Denyerec: handy templates etc ;) |
| 13:01 |
Denyerec |
2 questions |
| 13:01 |
Denyerec |
I will ask them before I think of more! :) |
| 13:01 |
pulponair |
hehe |
| 13:01 |
pulponair |
hurry up i gotta visit a flat |
| 13:02 |
Denyerec |
1) how does one insert such a module in typo? Will my standard template and T3 menus etc be available? |
| 13:02 |
Denyerec |
2) Have you got any names / examples of systems for which this has been done, or could be done, EG a case study for such an approach. |
| 13:05 |
pulponair |
1: eighter via iframes or fread |
| 13:05 |
pulponair |
2. no i did a similar thing to xtcommerce but it is bloody dirty since xtcommerce is kinda crap code |
| 13:06 |
pulponair |
(therefor i wont show you ;) ) |
| 13:06 |
eeos |
pulponair Denyerec someoe integrated sugarCRM with typo3, and they have probably used this approach |
| 13:06 |
eeos |
Denyerec pulponair search for sugar CRM on typo3 website |
| 13:06 |
Denyerec |
Yeah I use SugarCRM locally |
| 13:06 |
pulponair |
eeos: haha ....dont call it integration its just the contact form |
| 13:07 |
Denyerec |
Heh |
| 13:07 |
pulponair |
Denyerec: there is a authservice for phpBB2 |
| 13:07 |
Denyerec |
SugarCRM has such a massive DB |
| 13:07 |
Denyerec |
I do not see how you could ever integrate more than just the single sign on |
| 13:08 |
Denyerec |
though I suppose a typo BE module could be written to read data via webservice from Sugar's DB |
| 13:08 |
Denyerec |
allowing BE editors to modify sugar data from inside typo. |
| 13:09 |
Denyerec |
Or a fe module in typo 3 to connect to sugar DB and display contact info etc. |
| 13:09 |
Denyerec |
though you may as well just write your own script and throw it in an iFrme |
| 13:09 |
eeos |
pulponair I do not know I have not see the integration, so I would not know |
| 13:10 |
eeos |
pulponair Denyerec I think phpBB service is only authentication, not integration of backend as Denyerec wanted |
| 13:10 |
Denyerec |
Right |
| 13:10 |
m4rtijn |
anyone an idea why "hide at login" does not work for my FE users? |
| 13:10 |
Denyerec |
so if an fe_user logs onto your typo site |
| 13:10 |
Denyerec |
they are logged into phpbb too |
| 13:11 |
eeos |
Denyerec I have not see it working, but so it seems from the documentation |
| 13:11 |
Denyerec |
For the most part, trying to bring two monsters together like that, single sign on seems like the most agreeable approach |
| 13:12 |
Denyerec |
I suppose you could write fe modules for typo to extract things like latests posts, should phpbb have a webservice/abstraction layer to alllow it easily |
| 13:12 |
eeos |
Denyerec I do not know, unfortunately |
| 13:14 |
eeos |
m4rtijn you have to give us some more information, or we will not be able to answer |
| 13:15 |
pulponair |
yes information ..information |
| 13:16 |
m4rtijn |
k, I'm using the front end user registration extension, on the page where useres create their own FE user I set the 'access general options' to "hide at login".. though after I login the page is still visible in the navigation |
| 13:16 |
eeos |
pulponair do you know how can I solve the problem of sending the ouput of tt_products list in a TV tsop? |
| 13:17 |
pulponair |
eeos: sorry i dont got it |
| 13:17 |
pulponair |
eeos: could you rephrase? |
| 13:17 |
eeos |
pulponair I created a marker in TV called lib.products |
| 13:18 |
Ries |
m4rtijn: may be a cache issue? |
| 13:18 |
eeos |
pulponair I want to put the output of tt_products (the product list) in that market |
| 13:18 |
eeos |
sorry, in that marker |
| 13:18 |
Denyerec |
martin, flush your browser cache AND typo cache |
| 13:18 |
eeos |
pulponair is that better understandable? |
| 13:18 |
eeos |
:) |
| 13:18 |
m4rtijn |
i tried all cache thingies.. maybe.. does it mean only the content will not be visible.. but the navi entrie stays? |
| 13:18 |
Denyerec |
I suggested inserting the plugin on a page, then using CONTENT to grab the page |
| 13:19 |
pulponair |
eeos: so you what the output of tt_products and then do what? |
| 13:19 |
Denyerec |
obv it will only work if the page is NOT hidden |
| 13:19 |
eeos |
pulponair put it ito the lib.products marker in TV |
| 13:19 |
eeos |
pulponair I wanted an elegant solution |
| 13:20 |
tobi |
Denyerecs aproach i quite elegant, features also multilanguage and easy changing .. |
| 13:20 |
pulponair |
lib.products < plugin.tt_prod.... |
| 13:21 |
Denyerec |
Hurrah for simple people! |
| 13:21 |
eeos |
pulponair is that all???? |
| 13:21 |
pulponair |
eeos: guess so |
| 13:21 |
Denyerec |
yeah eeos |
| 13:21 |
Denyerec |
though you'll have to configure a lot of stuff via TS if you do it this way |
| 13:22 |
Denyerec |
with the page method, you can configure most through the flexform |
| 13:22 |
eeos |
Denyerec well, we do all the configuration through typoscritp in any case. |
| 13:22 |
Denyerec |
Ah |
| 13:22 |
Denyerec |
fair enough then |
| 13:22 |
Denyerec |
That's how I do my tt_news teastes |
| 13:22 |
Denyerec |
temp.50 < plugin.tt_news |
| 13:22 |
Denyerec |
configure temp.50 |
| 13:23 |
Denyerec |
then tv.something < temp.50 |
| 13:23 |
Denyerec |
(To avoid messing with the tt_news defaults for other places) |
| 13:24 |
eeos |
Denyerec I had a go at your method, look here http://phpfi.com/221561 |
| 13:24 |
eeos |
Denyerec it does not want to show |
| 13:24 |
Denyerec |
um |
| 13:24 |
Denyerec |
that last line |
| 13:24 |
Denyerec |
shoudl be |
| 13:24 |
Denyerec |
lib.products < temp.10 |
| 13:24 |
Denyerec |
and you must make sure the page you put the plugin on is NOT hidden |
| 13:24 |
Denyerec |
hidden in menu is ok |
| 13:25 |
Denyerec |
but the global visibility must NOT be set to hidden |
| 13:25 |
eeos |
Denyerec the page is not hidden |
| 13:25 |
Denyerec |
and your last line ? |
| 13:25 |
Denyerec |
afterall, you want to copy temp.10 into lib.products |
| 13:26 |
dokma |
anyone here tried to debug Typo3 using PHPEclipse + DBG + Apache ? |
| 13:26 |
eeos |
Denyerec yes |
| 13:26 |
Denyerec |
so pastecode your final TS eeos ? |
| 13:27 |
eeos |
Denyerec so you do not do any configuration through tscript? |
| 13:27 |
Denyerec |
well the extras the flexform won't let you set, sure. |
| 13:27 |
Denyerec |
but for 99% of the time the options in the flexform are all you need |
| 13:28 |
Denyerec |
for example in tt_news you might want to configure your AMENU, which the plugin flexform doesn't allow. |
| 13:28 |
eeos |
Denyerec tt_products, how do you configure the storage folder for example? |
| 13:28 |
Denyerec |
never used it |
| 13:28 |
Denyerec |
tt_news asks where your news is on the plugin flexform |
| 13:29 |
Denyerec |
SOooo |
| 13:29 |
Denyerec |
in your case |
| 13:29 |
Denyerec |
you will need... |
| 13:29 |
Denyerec |
Oooooh |
| 13:29 |
Denyerec |
I see. |
| 13:30 |
Denyerec |
I'm sure tobi will know how you get to the settings of something you pulled out in such a fashion |
| 13:30 |
Denyerec |
But yes I see your issue now. |
| 13:30 |
eeos |
Denyerec :D |
| 13:30 |
eeos |
Denyerec it is not my fashion, it is tt_products fashion :P |
| 13:33 |
eeos |
Denyerec the blooming thing does not allow anything else really |
| 13:35 |
m4rtijn |
cu, and have fun |
| 13:36 |
just2b |
i will ;) even there are 17% |
| 13:36 |
mpaev |
Hi i'm a total noob using typo3, and im having difficulties doing the tutorials. I've intalled typo3 on one.com and is trying to upload extension "modern template building part 1" but i only gets a blank screen when pressing import |
| 13:37 |
eeos |
just2b have fun :) |
| 13:39 |
a_depretis |
hi everybody ... is there a way to ommit the date from tt_news' related news links? |
| 13:56 |
pulponair |
hey guys anyone got access arround? |
| 13:56 |
pulponair |
ms access? |
| 13:57 |
pulponair |
i got a tiny mdb file that i need to convert to sql but i aint got access |
| 13:59 |
eeos |
Denyerec It does not work |
| 14:00 |
m4rtijn |
pulp.. I'm quite sure there are other progs free downloadable which can do that |
| 14:00 |
eeos |
Denyerec is the pid enough, or do I have to gibe the uid as well? |
| 14:01 |
m4rtijn |
mpaev: that because of the php memory limit |
| 14:01 |
m4rtijn |
mpaev: you have to download the extensions manually from the typo3.org website |
| 14:02 |
m4rtijn |
mpaev: upload to your webspace then use install extension, "browse" option |
| 14:08 |
Denyerec |
eeos |
| 14:08 |
Denyerec |
Tobi said to me that if you supply the pid, translations and such will work |
| 14:08 |
Denyerec |
if you give the uid, then they won't as the page settings won't go with you |
| 14:08 |
Denyerec |
and now tobi has gone offline :/ |
| 14:08 |
Denyerec |
He is really the man to ask |
| 14:08 |
Denyerec |
bedlamhotel might know too |
| 14:11 |
Denyerec |
ceed I see you have hit the mailling list :) |
| 14:15 |
mpaev |
I still have the same problem. can't upload to my website |
| 14:16 |
elbart |
hi guys |
| 14:17 |
mpaev |
now i've downloaded the extension file to my harddrive, what to do now |
| 14:20 |
Glimps |
import it |
| 14:20 |
Glimps |
using the Etx Manager |
| 14:21 |
Glimps |
Ext* |
| 14:21 |
mpaev |
that won't work.. :( i've tried that |
| 14:21 |
m4rtijn |
upload it to your webspace one one.com |
| 14:21 |
Glimps |
what does it say when you try? |
| 14:21 |
m4rtijn |
on* |
| 14:23 |
Glimps |
I mean, you wen to the ext manager, selected "Import extension" from the drop down, selected the file from your hard drive and it didn't work? |
| 14:23 |
m4rtijn |
hes not working locally glimps |
| 14:23 |
m4rtijn |
he said before hes using some webspace somewhere |
| 14:24 |
Glimps |
but you can upload it from your hard drive even if you online |
| 14:24 |
m4rtijn |
yes, first upload then install |
| 14:25 |
Glimps |
anyway... maybe I missed the first part of the discussion |
| 14:25 |
Glimps |
Now I have the weirdest od bug. I want if it's, a bug or just something I didn't get. |
| 14:26 |
Glimps |
check that out http://phpfi.com/221571 |
| 14:26 |
mpaev |
i'll make some more attempts |
| 14:26 |
Glimps |
that's my template config, templavoila config for a template and the html srouce of that template |
| 14:27 |
Glimps |
somehow the lib.footerMenu and lib.copirightsText won't show up in the front end |
| 14:27 |
Glimps |
I have cleared my cachhes |
| 14:27 |
eeos |
Denyerec yes, it works now, but strangely enough I have to load the extension templates in both pages, and only the default old style extension templates works |
| 14:28 |
Denyerec |
you meanthe static content templates? |
| 14:28 |
Denyerec |
You could try this method: |
| 14:28 |
Denyerec |
temp.adresse < styles.content.get |
| 14:28 |
Denyerec |
temp.adresse.select.pidInList = 52 |
| 14:29 |
fred^^ |
yay, weekend |
| 14:29 |
eeos |
Denyerec no I mean the tt_products old style css template, the blooming banana thing |
| 14:29 |
Denyerec |
never used tt_products!! |
| 14:35 |
Denyerec |
Who was it who had a good method for Interfering with the way content elements were output... |
| 14:35 |
Denyerec |
I want the first content element to have <h1> and all others to have h2 |
| 14:36 |
eeos |
Denyerec is a class not good enough? |
| 14:36 |
Denyerec |
Nope |
| 14:36 |
Denyerec |
Not semantically noticed. |
| 14:36 |
Denyerec |
needs to be <h1> and then <h2>'s |
| 14:36 |
Denyerec |
I am 100% sure someone in here has done it, or linked to some code that does. |
| 14:36 |
Denyerec |
I just can't find it! |
| 14:37 |
Denyerec |
http://www.typo3wizard.com/en/snippets/general-config/wrap-content-headers-text.html |
| 14:37 |
Denyerec |
Mm |
| 14:37 |
Denyerec |
mabe I can just use an optionsplit on the h1 wrap |
| 14:37 |
Denyerec |
though I don't think that will work will it... |
| 14:40 |
delmonico |
can I automatically load a css file that I deliver with my extension? i.e. without the need to modify the template? when the extension is loaded, loda the css file? |
| 14:40 |
Zat[FarFarAwAy] |
++ |
| 14:42 |
Denyerec |
I suppose you could include a page.includeCSS=<file> in the extension TS Setup |
| 14:42 |
Denyerec |
but that would interfere with certain people's layouts / approach to problems |
| 14:44 |
delmonico |
so its better to just include some "put blah blah in your template typoscript to load the css" in the documentation? |
| 14:46 |
Denyerec |
juat2b will know |
| 14:48 |
mpaev |
everytime i try to import extension i end up with a blank page,.. |
| 14:48 |
pulponair |
mpaev: check the httplog for php errors |
| 14:48 |
pulponair |
mpaev: do you use php 5.2? |
| 14:48 |
delmonico |
ah damn enough for today |
| 14:49 |
delmonico |
if I don't get some food, beer and a couple hours of sleep really soon I will end up collapsing on my desk :P |
| 14:49 |
delmonico |
cu guys |
| 14:50 |
mpaev |
where is the httplog? |
| 14:51 |
koomi |
mpaev: on unix /var/log/apache |
| 14:51 |
koomi |
or /var/log/httpd |
| 14:52 |
mpaev |
ok i'm using php 4 |
| 14:57 |
j0hndeere |
Good morning, earth humans. |
| 14:58 |
fred^^ |
Denyerec: do you do any customizing to the RTE? |
| 14:58 |
fred^^ |
like, add classes or options or whatever |
| 14:58 |
fred^^ |
select what code it is able to output |
| 14:58 |
Denyerec |
Bits and peices |
| 14:58 |
Denyerec |
it;s a bit of a bitch |
| 14:58 |
fred^^ |
have you seen the Xstandard editor? |
| 14:58 |
Denyerec |
no ? |
| 14:59 |
Denyerec |
url! |
| 14:59 |
fred^^ |
http://xstandard.com/ |
| 14:59 |
fred^^ |
seems nice |
| 14:59 |
Denyerec |
j0hndeere - any idea to make the first content element heading a h1 and all that follow a h2? |
| 14:59 |
j0hndeere |
not sure what exactly you mean |
| 15:00 |
Denyerec |
well |
| 15:00 |
j0hndeere |
why would you want to do that? |
| 15:00 |
Denyerec |
right now, all content elements if you enter a header have h1 |
| 15:00 |
Denyerec |
and for semantic reasons in a particular applicaton I have, I would like only the first content element to have h1 |
| 15:00 |
Denyerec |
and any others that follow to be h2 |
| 15:02 |
Denyerec |
fred do you have an online demo of that editor anywhere ? |
| 15:02 |
Denyerec |
I would not mind a quick look at it |
| 15:02 |
Denyerec |
but their site seems only to offer a download |
| 15:04 |
fred^^ |
there should be a demo somewhere |
| 15:04 |
fred^^ |
ive tried it earlier |
| 15:04 |
fred^^ |
http://www.google.no/search?hl=no&q=xstandard%20demo&meta= |
| 15:04 |
Denyerec |
OUCH |
| 15:04 |
Denyerec |
ActiveX ? |
| 15:04 |
Denyerec |
No thankyou. |
| 15:05 |
Denyerec |
Shame, because their featureset is awesome. |
| 15:05 |
Denyerec |
:( |
| 15:05 |
fred^^ |
hmm i dont think it was xstandard i was thinking about |
| 15:05 |
Denyerec |
tinyRTE? |
| 15:05 |
Denyerec |
fckeditor? |
| 15:06 |
fred^^ |
it does a really good job at outputting good code, i think |
| 15:06 |
Denyerec |
those are the only two I know :( |
| 15:06 |
fred^^ |
neither |
| 15:06 |
fred^^ |
let me see |
| 15:07 |
fred^^ |
http://www.standards-schmandards.com/2006/wysiwyg-editor-test/ |
| 15:07 |
fred^^ |
that was the test i was reading |
| 15:08 |
fred^^ |
.. i think |
| 15:09 |
eeos |
fred^^ it seem not open source look at http://xinha.python-hosting.com/wiki/DownloadsPage |
| 15:18 |
brain-xy |
hello all :) |
| 15:18 |
Glimps |
hey |
| 15:20 |
brain-xy |
has anybody ever had the problem in a multilanguage website that he had to link to different pages with the external link page? |
| 15:21 |
Glimps |
brain-xy : what do you mean |
| 15:21 |
Glimps |
? |
| 15:23 |
Denyerec |
Glimps, example would be google |
| 15:23 |
Denyerec |
if you are in french mode, link to google.fr |
| 15:23 |
Denyerec |
if you are in german mode, link to google.de |
| 15:23 |
Glimps |
oh |
| 15:24 |
mpaev |
is it easy to install typo3 on a host where I don't have shell access? |
| 15:24 |
Glimps |
yup |
| 15:24 |
Glimps |
mpaev: if youu have an ftp access |
| 15:25 |
mpaev |
I do |
| 15:25 |
mpaev |
and I came so far to se frontend and backend.. |
| 15:25 |
Glimps |
mpaev: should be a breeze to install |
| 15:25 |
mpaev |
but its still the problem with the extensions, cant install them |
| 15:26 |
Glimps |
mpaev: maybe you don't have the permission to write in the extension folder |
| 15:26 |
mpaev |
how do I get that ?? |
| 15:26 |
Glimps |
mpaev: you would need a shell to figure that out |
| 15:27 |
Glimps |
mpaev: anyway you can perform shell command using a web interface or something? |
| 15:27 |
mpaev |
ok is that something you could guide me to? |
| 15:28 |
Glimps |
mpaev: well it's pretty straight foward. Are you using a shared host like goDoddy or siteground? |
| 15:28 |
Glimps |
godaddy* or whatver |
| 15:29 |
mpaev |
don't know if it's a shared host, its www.one.com |
| 15:29 |
Glimps |
that is |
| 15:29 |
mpaev |
ok :) |
| 15:30 |
Glimps |
you speak french? |
| 15:30 |
mpaev |
nope sorry. |
| 15:30 |
mpaev |
from denmark |
| 15:30 |
Glimps |
oh, you host does:P |
| 15:30 |
Glimps |
your* |
| 15:30 |
mpaev |
2 sec |
| 15:30 |
Glimps |
ok you must have access to some sort of control pannel for you site |
| 15:30 |
Glimps |
usually it's cPanel |
| 15:31 |
Tester110 |
hi, |
| 15:31 |
Glimps |
hey |
| 15:31 |
mpaev |
locked in.. |
| 15:31 |
mpaev |
logged in |
| 15:31 |
Glimps |
ok |
| 15:31 |
Glimps |
is it cPanel (if it is there is the cPanel logo at the top of the page) |
| 15:32 |
mpaev |
its not cpanel |
| 15:32 |
Glimps |
ok |
| 15:32 |
Glimps |
do you have a file manager utility? |
| 15:32 |
mpaev |
yes |
| 15:32 |
Glimps |
ok |
| 15:33 |
Tester110 |
which newsletter extension can you recommend? |
| 15:33 |
Glimps |
let's try that then, open you file manager |
| 15:33 |
Glimps |
usualy they tell you what rights you have on the files |
| 15:34 |
mpaev |
is it the extension file i've have to check the pomission on |
| 15:34 |
Glimps |
mpaev: more like the ext folder where the files are located once the extension is installed |
| 15:35 |
mpaev |
cant see any info on that.. |
| 15:35 |
Tester110 |
i have a lounge system with registred user... how can i implment a newsletter system in typo3? |
| 15:35 |
Tester110 |
any idea? |
| 15:36 |
Glimps |
Tester110: sry, can't help you on taht, maybe someone else can... never played with newsletter |
| 15:37 |
Glimps |
mpaev can you see the permission of files and folders? usualy they are shown as a three digits combination (655,755,666,000, ...) or a series of letters (-rwxrw--rw) |
| 15:37 |
mpaev |
the file manager system is: ilosoft file manager |
| 15:38 |
Glimps |
ok |
| 15:38 |
Glimps |
let's see what it looks like ;) |
| 15:39 |
mpaev |
and the control panel is powered by HP |
| 15:40 |
Glimps |
looks like you can't do that with this file manager |
| 15:40 |
Glimps |
pretty disapointing< |
| 15:41 |
mpaev |
yeah |
| 15:41 |
Glimps |
mpaev: you sure you don't have access to any kind of shell... |
| 15:41 |
Glimps |
telnet, ssh, anything... |
| 15:41 |
mpaev |
not that i know of |
| 15:41 |
mpaev |
i know i don't have ssh access |
| 15:41 |
Phlogiston_ |
how can I include the new login box module on every page with TS? I have a COA object but how do link it with the plugin? |
| 15:42 |
mpaev |
hmm maybe its time to find a know host;) |
| 15:42 |
Glimps |
mpaev: well I,m kind of stuck at this point... maybe you should ask your provider to work the issue out. |
| 15:42 |
Glimps |
or a new host ;) |
| 15:43 |
Glimps |
there are a lot of typo3 hosts out there |
| 15:43 |
mpaev |
can you recommend any |
| 15:44 |
Glimps |
I use siteground, but it's an american host |
| 15:44 |
Glimps |
pretty cheap and the service is amazing |
| 15:44 |
Glimps |
might experience some lag though is you're in europe |
| 15:45 |
mpaev |
yeah im in europe denmark |
| 15:46 |
mpaev |
i'll try to find a danish host, that have typo3 support |
| 15:53 |
Glimps |
how can they released typo3 4.1 with the tree view so broken in firefox? |
| 15:54 |
Glimps |
oh |
| 15:54 |
Glimps |
it's not constant... |
| 15:54 |
Glimps |
interesting :P |
| 15:57 |
andreasbalzer |
hi! can somebody tell me, where I can find the sysexts in the filesystem? |
| 15:57 |
j0hndeere |
I finally broke down and set up a second monitor. |
| 15:57 |
andreasbalzer |
i'm just clueless where they are.. ;) |
| 15:57 |
andreasbalzer |
oh got them.. |
| 15:57 |
Glimps |
andreasbalzer: just a sec |
| 15:57 |
andreasbalzer |
typo3.. |
| 15:58 |
andreasbalzer |
why are they stored in the BE folder? *strange* |
| 15:58 |
Glimps |
typo3/sysext |
| 15:58 |
Glimps |
;) |
| 15:58 |
andreasbalzer |
yeah.. thanks :) |
| 16:05 |
specialunderwear |
is it hard to create a new content element extension? |
| 16:05 |
Ries |
hey guys, what online tool do you guys use for project management? |
| 16:06 |
specialunderwear |
ow can anyone name a content element extension? so I can look at the code? |
| 16:08 |
andreasbalzer |
Ries: I use my head ;) |
| 16:08 |
andreasbalzer |
Ries: Maybe Outlook's calendar could do it but a real groupware tool would be better I guess.. |
| 16:08 |
andreasbalzer |
Ries: There's one with Single Signon for T3.. |
| 16:09 |
Ries |
andreasbalzer: I don't need something that is typo3 based.... |
| 16:10 |
andreasbalzer |
ok.. |
| 16:10 |
Ries |
basicly we need to manage it with 3 people |
| 16:10 |
Ries |
I cannot run outlook here anyways.... |
| 16:10 |
andreasbalzer |
some simple thing would be to use a calendar software like Outlook or Mozilla Sunbird |
| 16:10 |
andreasbalzer |
even web calendar software like Google GMail can handle small group projects |
| 16:11 |
Denyerec |
Um |
| 16:11 |
Glimps |
Ries : You mean like a groupware or more simpler? |
| 16:11 |
Denyerec |
Ries how detailled does it need to be ? |
| 16:11 |
andreasbalzer |
but if you want to use GANT and all the different things you have to use a groupware tool that takes a lot of time to understand and manage |
| 16:11 |
Denyerec |
cos activeCollab might do for you |
| 16:11 |
Denyerec |
http://www.activecollab.com/ |
| 16:12 |
Denyerec |
if you are just watching time, then slimtimer might even have enough features. |
| 16:12 |
Denyerec |
That's SUPER simple |
| 16:12 |
Denyerec |
www.slimtimer.com |
| 16:13 |
Glimps |
for smaller dev project, I like http://trac.edgewall.org/ |
| 16:13 |
Ries |
Glimps: we basicly need todo's, a calender and users |
| 16:13 |
Glimps |
Ries: egroupware, phpgroupware, opengroupware |
| 16:13 |
Ries |
andreasbalzer: I don't like google a lot... big daddy knows to much already |
| 16:13 |
specialunderwear |
Does anyone know any simple content element extension? |
| 16:14 |
Denyerec |
Ries I think activeCollab should do it, |
| 16:14 |
Denyerec |
no global calendar tho |
| 16:15 |
Ries |
thanks for the hinst... |
| 16:16 |
Glimps |
Ries: there's always Zimbra, but that's the post modern age nuclear weapon |
| 16:16 |
andreasbalzer |
that takes 5 GB to install.. :-/ |
| 16:16 |
Glimps |
I knoww |
| 16:16 |
Denyerec |
hahahaha |
| 16:16 |
Glimps |
annd a minimum og 8gb to run :P |
| 16:16 |
andreasbalzer |
and I personally wonder why.. |
| 16:16 |
Denyerec |
Opengroupware looks OK |
| 16:16 |
Glimps |
so do I |
| 16:16 |
Denyerec |
egroupware looks a bit bloated |
| 16:16 |
Glimps |
opengroupware is cool, but has a lot of dependencies |
| 16:17 |
Glimps |
so does zimbra, but they all come with the bundle |
| 16:17 |
andreasbalzer |
if we think about we should come to the question why T3 doesn't offer a groupware module.. :D |
| 16:17 |
Ries |
andreasbalzer: I don't care much about size... I care about usability. |
| 16:17 |
Ries |
andreasbalzer: that is waht my wife always told me.... but she has both ;) |
| 16:17 |
andreasbalzer |
;) |
| 16:17 |
Glimps |
Ries: pros of Zimbra: feature rich cons: java based... with many users it tends to lag behind |
| 16:18 |
Glimps |
l,ol! |
| 16:18 |
Denyerec |
the phpgroupware website is shit |
| 16:18 |
Denyerec |
no screenshots or decent docs, lots of 404's |
| 16:18 |
andreasbalzer |
yes |
| 16:18 |
Denyerec |
does not inspire confidence! |
| 16:18 |
Glimps |
kind of what is php groupware :P |
| 16:19 |
Glimps |
project is not mature yet |
| 16:19 |
Glimps |
I like egroupware + evolution |
| 16:19 |
Denyerec |
hahaha |
| 16:19 |
Denyerec |
looks like ActiveCollab is your baby then :) |
| 16:20 |
Ries |
Denyerec: is ActiveCollab web based, and can I install it on my own server? |
| 16:20 |
Denyerec |
yes yes |
| 16:20 |
Denyerec |
and gpl /opensource |
| 16:21 |
andreasbalzer |
just a question for you as PRO developers (and not for people like me who think about getting their favourite marks in their exams in one month): how difficult would it be to use calendar base, chc-forum, taskcenter, workspace and some other nice extensions and do some magic which then might result in "T3 Groupware"? |
| 16:21 |
reber |
interesting, i'm looking for a tool like that too |
| 16:22 |
reber |
there was something called phpkolab |
| 16:22 |
Glimps |
some project have tird such things... I don't like silver bullet solution for the web... |
| 16:22 |
reber |
rather cool, but well ... |
| 16:22 |
Glimps |
i mean project collaboration has nothing to do with maintaning a website... |
| 16:22 |
Glimps |
you would end with ann heavy system |
| 16:22 |
andreasbalzer |
well if you have more than ... 20 editors it has to do ;) |
| 16:22 |
Ries |
zimbra looks cool, but that is just a email and calender system... not project management |
| 16:23 |
reber |
Ries, check phpkolab then |
| 16:23 |
Glimps |
you would end with ann heavy system: it has a task system with overviews |
| 16:23 |
andreasbalzer |
i just try to imagine what would happen if some core developers would be thrown into a room for 5 days with the task 'Create a T3 groupware tool'.. |
| 16:23 |
Glimps |
it's basicly a replacement for outlook groupware |
| 16:25 |
Glimps |
andreasbalzer: 5 days I think he would cry |
| 16:25 |
Glimps |
;) |
| 16:25 |
eeos |
in tt_products, I am trying to show only the items from a certain category on a page. i it possible? |
| 16:25 |
eeos |
the documentatio is not particularly good on this point |
| 16:26 |
Denyerec |
andreasbalzer |
| 16:26 |
Denyerec |
You would not need such a tool |
| 16:26 |
Denyerec |
if the Typo4.0 task centre bloody worked |
| 16:26 |
Denyerec |
:( |
| 16:26 |
Denyerec |
That module is so broken. |
| 16:26 |
andreasbalzer |
well the taskcenter has the problem that you can't assign "tasks" but only send messages and that Be users can't accept them, refuse them and say when they are ready.. |
| 16:27 |
andreasbalzer |
all in all the real "taskcenter" is more a "messagecenter" |
| 16:27 |
Denyerec |
Heh |
| 16:27 |
andreasbalzer |
I only have 8 people in my team.. but I have to manage more than 100 all in all.. So taskcenter is surely not very suitable to manage the tasks for them.. ;) |
| 16:27 |
Denyerec |
Yes |
| 16:28 |
Denyerec |
If the taskcentre worked, it would be awesome. |
| 16:28 |
Denyerec |
But, heh, what can you do besides re-write it yourself? :) |
| 16:28 |
andreasbalzer |
I also think that if there are let's say 10 devs of T3 they would be able to create a groupware with T3 in less then a week.. |
| 16:28 |
Denyerec |
I reckon there are brains large enough in here to re-write the taskcentre in a week or two yes. |
| 16:28 |
Denyerec |
But the truth is $$$ |
| 16:29 |
Denyerec |
Most are busy trying to make money |
| 16:29 |
Denyerec |
Or, like me, scratching in the dirt to buy food. |
| 16:29 |
andreasbalzer |
well currently I have to take care about my exams.. but I already think I'm doing a lot for T3 in terms of design and so on.. |
| 16:29 |
Denyerec |
dax has a neat FE calendar |
| 16:30 |
Denyerec |
people like bedlam, just2b and tobi are scary with Typo, they could surely do it if you could convince them to ;) |
| 16:30 |
Ries |
andreasbalzer: a groupware tool can't be made in 5 days |
| 16:30 |
andreasbalzer |
true. But the people who code in their sparetime for T3 core could be taken to do something like a groupware. Just a week wouldn't be sooo problematic and.. hey.. if T3 offers a groupware tool, I think web agencycompanies would have another thing they could advertise with |
| 16:31 |
Ries |
andreasbalzer: one core developer already made a groupware tool... |
| 16:31 |
reber |
activecollab looks cool to |
| 16:31 |
eeos |
Ries andreasbalzer Denyerec what about integrating something else into typo3? |
| 16:31 |
reber |
too |
| 16:31 |
andreasbalzer |
Ries: but the first things could be implemented |
| 16:31 |
andreasbalzer |
eeos: That doesn't make sense |
| 16:31 |
andreasbalzer |
you could just use the other tool then seperatly.. |
| 16:32 |
eeos |
there are some groupware tools out there |
| 16:32 |
andreasbalzer |
it's not about using a groupware itself.. It's about using a groupware in the BE design and feel of T3 |
| 16:32 |
eeos |
yes, but your loose the advanatges of integration |
| 16:32 |
Denyerec |
I'm not on about groupware aymore |
| 16:32 |
Denyerec |
I'm on about the sad lack of the taskcentre when it comes to Typo3 |
| 16:32 |
Denyerec |
and large teams of editors |
| 16:32 |
Denyerec |
or even small teams in different countries |
| 16:32 |
eeos |
Denyerec that is one of our probelsm as well (well, our customers) |
| 16:33 |
eeos |
Denyerec for example the editors hierarchy is not particularly good |
| 16:34 |
Denyerec |
Indeed |
| 16:34 |
Denyerec |
TO-Do, task assignment, that kind of organisational system would be very useful |
| 16:35 |
Ries |
I don't care about intergration... I just need something that really works |
| 16:35 |
Ries |
there is one project management system in typo3, but ir really sucks |
| 16:35 |
Ries |
totally not usable |
| 16:36 |
andreasbalzer |
let me guess. the name starts with W? |
| 16:36 |
Denyerec |
workflow ? |
| 16:36 |
andreasbalzer |
right :) |
| 16:36 |
andreasbalzer |
that's my guess. |
| 16:36 |
andreasbalzer |
but i didn't want to write it completly ;) |
| 16:36 |
Denyerec |
Ries - your problem aside, it woudl be nice if the Typo3 task centre worked anyway, for editors :) |
| 16:37 |
andreasbalzer |
btw ever noticed that non admins can't send messages to admins in taskcenter? |
| 16:38 |
eeos |
Ries :) I know |
| 16:38 |
eeos |
Ries a customer is asking us something of the type Denyerec was talking about, we do not know how to do it |
| 16:38 |
eeos |
Denyerec you cannot ask certain figures just for a module |
| 16:39 |
Denyerec |
? |
| 16:39 |
eeos |
Denyerec I mean if you develop a module that does all of that in a serious way |
| 16:39 |
eeos |
Denyerec then you have to ask them 20,000 |
| 16:39 |
eeos |
Denyerec just for that module |
| 16:39 |
Denyerec |
AHhh yes |
| 16:39 |
Denyerec |
Because of the time |
| 16:40 |
eeos |
Denyerec ' course |
| 16:40 |
eeos |
in tt_products, I am trying to show only the items from a certain category on a page. is it possible? |
| 16:40 |
eeos |
the documentatio is not particularly good on this point (to use an euphemism) |
| 16:41 |
andreasbalzer |
to be ironic: there is a documentation?? :-d |
| 16:41 |
eeos |
andreasbalzer :( |
| 16:42 |
eeos |
andreasbalzer this is the documentation in the section "handling of categories": |
| 16:42 |
eeos |
here are multiple ways to create a shop. The usual way is to create sysfolders for the products and lists and single sites where the products are displayed. If you want to do a bigger shop with TYPO3, this will become a little bit unhandy. |
| 16:42 |
eeos |
If you want to make bigger shops with hierarchical categories you shall install the mbi_products_categories and maybe also the nsb_cat2menu extension. Sponsors will get an enhanced version of mbi_products_categories with which you can assign many categories to one products via a mm-table. Only with this it will be possible to list DAM images. |
| 16:42 |
eeos |
that is it .... |
| 16:42 |
eeos |
sorry for not pastebin'ong |
| 16:43 |
andreasbalzer |
the funny thing is that if we had a T3 groupware now, we would have been able to assign the extension author the task to write a better documentation ;) |
| 16:43 |
Denyerec |
lol |
| 16:43 |
Denyerec |
there is a trac project for typo |
| 16:45 |
eeos |
Denyerec yes |
| 16:45 |
eeos |
? |
| 16:45 |
andreasbalzer |
i'm going to be offline for half an hour or so.. just to play some Battlefield before working again for ess-erfurt.de :-/ |
| 16:45 |
Denyerec |
ohhh andreasbalzer |
| 16:46 |
Denyerec |
BF2 ? |
| 16:46 |
andreasbalzer |
well don't know |
| 16:46 |
andreasbalzer |
it's not the one with those robots |
| 16:46 |
andreasbalzer |
but the one with those tanks.. |
| 16:46 |
Denyerec |
Most likely then :) |
| 16:46 |
andreasbalzer |
but i have only the demo.. :-/ |
| 16:46 |
Denyerec |
check out www.21stcenturywarfare.com |
| 16:46 |
Denyerec |
Aww :( |
| 16:46 |
Denyerec |
21cw is a good organised tournament/campaign thing. |
| 16:47 |
andreasbalzer |
aha :) |
| 16:47 |
andreasbalzer |
well.. see you in 30 minutes :) |
| 17:12 |
xcess |
Hi, Can anybody tell me how to add any plugin to a page via Typoscript? |
| 17:20 |
andreasbalzer |
i'm back again :) |
| 17:32 |
just2b |
someone can help with a small userfunc? |
| 17:32 |
Wol |
hi everyone!! i have a question for you!! Somebody know an extention where i can log all modifitions maded by backend users? |
| 17:32 |
just2b |
wol, look in BE > LoG |
| 17:33 |
Wol |
ok! tnkx ;) |
| 17:38 |
Wol |
ok and is it possible to show that user friendly |
| 17:38 |
Wol |
? |
| 17:38 |
just2b |
no |
| 17:38 |
Wol |
ok... :S |
| 17:52 |
roelof |
hello, everybody |
| 17:52 |
roelof |
did anyone got foldoutmenu and automake template got working ? |
| 18:01 |
andreasbalzer |
is it possible to preview a workspace in a full window instead of that workspace preview window? |
| 18:17 |
roelof |
Hello, |
| 18:18 |
roelof |
Does anyone know if automake template has references ? |
| 18:18 |
just2b |
there is IMO no need for this ext |
| 18:22 |
roelof |
just2b, are you answering my question ? |
| 18:23 |
andreasbalzer |
just2b:btw: there's a bug in your google map ext |
| 18:24 |
just2b |
andreas, i would guess there are several |
| 18:24 |
andreasbalzer |
but there is one important.. ;) |
| 18:24 |
just2b |
and this is? |
| 18:25 |
andreasbalzer |
if you add a plugin content element and do not choose a dataset to show, it throws many many errors in FE |
| 18:25 |
just2b |
yeah i know |
| 18:25 |
andreasbalzer |
any new version expectable? |
| 18:26 |
just2b |
yes |
| 18:26 |
andreasbalzer |
cool :) |
| 18:27 |
max_muetze |
in typo3 is there a way to set the iso-format globally to utf-8? |
| 18:27 |
andreasbalzer |
yes |
| 18:27 |
andreasbalzer |
look into the install tool |
| 18:27 |
andreasbalzer |
force charset |
| 18:27 |
max_muetze |
really so simple? nice! |
| 18:27 |
andreasbalzer |
well not really |
| 18:28 |
andreasbalzer |
you might want to configure your extension languages to use utf-8 |
| 18:28 |
roelof |
how can i show page content of one page in a other page with automaketemplate ? |
| 18:28 |
andreasbalzer |
and the trick is only simple if you start with a new database.. |
| 18:28 |
just2b |
roleof: with ts |
| 18:29 |
roelof |
pity, TV has references to do that, can you give a example how to do this, just2b ? |
| 18:30 |
max_muetze |
andreasbalzer: i am still testing.. |
| 18:31 |
max_muetze |
andreasbalzer: but the extensions have to be modified in all cases, right? |
| 18:31 |
andreasbalzer |
right |
| 18:32 |
andreasbalzer |
but there's just a TSC setting to define |
| 18:32 |
max_muetze |
can you tell me where it is to find? |
| 18:32 |
andreasbalzer |
momentz |
| 18:33 |
andreasbalzer |
if your website is German, the following should do it for FE: |
| 18:33 |
andreasbalzer |
config.metaCharset = utf-8 |
| 18:33 |
andreasbalzer |
config.renderCharset = utf-8 |
| 18:33 |
andreasbalzer |
config.locale_all = de_DE.utf8 |
| 18:34 |
andreasbalzer |
the latest setting requires a file on your server which is normally stored in /local or something like that |
| 18:35 |
max_muetze |
i don't have shell access if you mean /usr/local |
| 18:36 |
andreasbalzer |
right ;) |
| 18:36 |
max_muetze |
the lines above must be placed in the template setup, right? |
| 18:36 |
andreasbalzer |
ok.. but testing should work too.. |
| 18:36 |
andreasbalzer |
yes |
| 18:39 |
max_muetze |
hm, nice, now there is a ? for every "ü" on my site..... |
| 18:39 |
max_muetze |
i think thats not what i like to see there... ;) |
| 18:39 |
andreasbalzer |
ok, so did you use a database with contents inside? |
| 18:39 |
max_muetze |
yes, so this is the reason |
| 18:40 |
max_muetze |
okay, i will make a clean install... |
| 18:40 |
andreasbalzer |
the mentioned steps work only if you start with a new database as mentioned above ;) |
| 18:40 |
max_muetze |
ah, ok |
| 18:40 |
andreasbalzer |
otherwise you have to convert your database first |
| 18:40 |
andreasbalzer |
and that can take months until you have converted every char.. |
| 18:40 |
andreasbalzer |
but there are tutorials available |
| 18:41 |
max_muetze |
ah, sounds interesting.. it would be not a big problem to make a clean install but i don't know all steps till the current state ;) where can i look for those tutorials? |
| 18:41 |
andreasbalzer |
google mainly |
| 18:42 |
uschi |
hi folks |
| 18:42 |
andreasbalzer |
but make a full backup of everything first |
| 18:42 |
andreasbalzer |
and backup your backup at least twice ;) |
| 18:42 |
andreasbalzer |
hi uschi! |
| 18:42 |
uschi |
hello andreasbalzer max_muetze |
| 18:42 |
andreasbalzer |
how are you? |
| 18:42 |
uschi |
andreasbalzer, do you know about any changes regarding be-rights in typo3 4.1? |
| 18:43 |
andreasbalzer |
i didn't notice any |
| 18:43 |
uschi |
fine, but, well struggling with t3 |
| 18:43 |
uschi |
well perhaps there are some nice options |
| 18:43 |
andreasbalzer |
well my luck is that my holidays have started today.. my problem is of course always ess-erfurt.de :D |
| 18:44 |
uschi |
yes, andreasbalzer, i suppose, the two of us suffer from a never ending story |
| 18:44 |
andreasbalzer |
right |
| 18:45 |
uschi |
you do not have installed be_acl, by the way? |
| 18:45 |
andreasbalzer |
meanwhile my css is getting really problematic, as I forget some things.. |
| 18:45 |
andreasbalzer |
no |
| 18:45 |
uschi |
what a pity :) |
| 18:45 |
andreasbalzer |
i once tried, but it crashed everything.. |
| 18:46 |
uschi |
i do not like to hear that |
| 18:46 |
andreasbalzer |
why? |
| 18:46 |
uschi |
hello pulponair :) |
| 18:52 |
roelof |
just2b, are you still there ? |
| 18:53 |
just2b |
yes but need to make a fast ext |
| 18:58 |
max_muetze |
hello uschi |
| 18:59 |
uschi |
max_muetze, did you solve the problem you had yesterday night? |
| 19:00 |
uschi |
because when i woke up this morning, it came up to me, that i made a mistake |
| 19:01 |
uschi |
because, perhaps (!) it needs to be page.20.marks.... |
| 19:01 |
roelof |
oke, can anyone lelse give me a example how see page content on another page ?? |
| 19:01 |
roelof |
im using automaketemplate |
| 19:01 |
ipseos |
Hello peeps, I am about to install typo3 4.1 onto a windows 2003 server, but I have a question about which folders to setup as junctions/symlinks, can someone please advise ? |
| 19:04 |
uschi |
Ries, are you available for a second? |
| 19:04 |
uschi |
or two, or three? |
| 19:06 |
Ries |
what's up uschi, you seem to be more advanced them me :) |
| 19:07 |
uschi |
you are .... |
| 19:07 |
uschi |
well Ries, i just wanted to know wether there are any new features for access control in 4.1 than documented |
| 19:08 |
uschi |
this unix system like owner group world somehow is not sufficient for my needs |
| 19:09 |
uschi |
there is this extension be_acl by sebastian, but andreasbalzer told me, that it f.. up his system |
| 19:09 |
Ries |
uschi: I wouldn't know... and I don't think so |
| 19:10 |
Ries |
But it's a bit more advances then simple unix permissions |
| 19:10 |
uschi |
yes but i cannot say group1 may do this and that on this page and its subpages |
| 19:10 |
uschi |
group 2 may do a little less on the same pages |
| 19:11 |
uschi |
what about these conditions for tsconfig by kraftb? |
| 19:11 |
uschi |
ever used it? |
| 19:17 |
just2b |
roelof, still a question? |
| 19:19 |
Ries |
uschi: No, I never used tsconfig stuff from kraftb... I am more into extension developments... |
| 19:19 |
Ries |
uschi: But you can create sub groups which will allow you to do some stuff I think |
| 19:19 |
uschi |
not really |
| 19:20 |
uschi |
or at least, this will be very unhandy |
| 19:20 |
andreasbalzer |
true |
| 19:20 |
uschi |
if you have a large amount of groups |
| 19:26 |
Ries |
andreasbalzer: might beable to write a module for you to solve that problem :) |
| 19:26 |
Ries |
or make BE acl's work.... |
| 19:26 |
andreasbalzer |
hm.. |
| 19:27 |
andreasbalzer |
well I guess it would be better for me to have a module which would be optimized for the needs of an educational institute.. i don't think that a normal acl module would help so much.. |
| 19:29 |
andreasbalzer |
but some first step.. It would be great if the selection fields for usergroups (where you have to select which usergroups are allowed to see a specific element) would be shown as a pagetree... |
| 19:29 |
andreasbalzer |
(Show at login / Hide at login / Usergroups / ......) |
| 19:42 |
Emile |
Hello list, I am looking to import an RSS feed into a templavoila content record. Anyone can link me to a good tutorial to make one or any know extension for it you have used with success? |
| 19:53 |
ipseos |
I am having some problems trying to access the install folder through the browser. I have set up the junctions on windows 2003. is there some permissions that I need to set? (anyone) |
| 19:57 |
Emile |
Have you tried Quixplorer? |
| 19:58 |
Emile |
It's an extension that allows you to see whitin the Typo3 folder. |
| 19:59 |
andreasbalzer |
but it works only for admins and ignores all permissions set within T3.. |
| 19:59 |
Emile |
yes thats true |
| 19:59 |
Emile |
I would know I am sorry! |
| 20:00 |
Emile |
*n't |
| 20:00 |
ipseos |
i havent installed yet, so i am not sure how to get into backend or anything |
| 20:01 |
Emile |
Hallo anyone has experience in importing RSS into TV records? Cheers! |
| 20:01 |
ipseos |
i unzipped the files to the webroot folder, and created 3 junctions, typo3_src -> typo3-4.1 |
| 20:01 |
Emile |
ipseos what did you not installed yet? |
| 20:01 |
ipseos |
the typo3 |
| 20:01 |
ipseos |
i only unzipped and created the juncitons in windows |
| 20:01 |
Emile |
one sec |
| 20:02 |
ipseos |
but when i point to mdomain.com/typo3/install it tells me i dont have permission to view directory |
| 20:03 |
Emile |
I am no expert here sorry dude. Never used a win server myself. Got someone at the door! |
| 20:03 |
ipseos |
alrite np |
| 20:16 |
Ries |
ipseos: you need to set permissions.-... |
| 20:17 |
Ries |
ipseos: no clue how that works on windows, to difficult for me |
| 20:25 |
j0hndeere |
GHAfdoodro agdafastnfooon ,bhumdans. |
| 20:25 |
j0hndeere |
aatrghhhhh tIv'm goaroggy |
| 20:30 |
Emile |
Hello list, I am looking to import an RSS feed into a templavoila content record. Anyone can link me to a good tutorial to make one or any know extension for it you have used with success? |
| 20:33 |
PaulLS |
Is there a systematic way to remove the typo3 plug that appears in the html comments of typo3 generated pages? |
| 21:16 |
Ries |
PaulLS: nope there isn't... i would be appriciated if you leave it there |
| 21:16 |
Ries |
you wouldn't remove the star of your brandt new mercedes, wouldn't you? |
| 21:17 |
PaulLS |
While I'd love to communicate my support for the project, there is some security through obscurity, not to mention the overhead of those four or five lines multiplied over a few million pulls a day. |
| 21:25 |
j0hndeere |
maybe |
| 21:25 |
j0hndeere |
whoops |
| 21:25 |
j0hndeere |
maybe Kaspar should charge people to remove the logos, heh... |
| 21:26 |
Ries |
PaulLS: the view lines compared to teh total size is marginal..... Also, I can see (so are hackers) if a site was build with typo3.... |
| 21:26 |
Ries |
PaulLS: The text is actualy hard coded in the source |
| 21:27 |
j0hndeere |
heh... security through obscurity is no security at all |
| 21:27 |
PaulLS |
I saw that in /sysext/cms/tslib/class.tslib_pagegen.php, however wondered if there were a way to modify it without actually modifying the code itself. |
| 21:28 |
PaulLS |
... and I'm not sure how one would otherwise determine if a site were powered by typo3 |
| 21:28 |
PaulLS |
presuming a file structure that didn't include the default |
| 21:28 |
PaulLS |
(i.e. fileadmin, etc.) |
| 21:30 |
j0hndeere |
anybody that knows how to use Google can pretty quickly figure out it's typo3 just by googling the names of the various classes the HTML calls |
| 21:31 |
Ries |
PaulLS: I can see it how teh html code looks like |
| 21:31 |
Ries |
PaulLS: and removing it from pagegen is the only way... |
| 21:31 |
Ries |
PaulLS: there are to many typical typo3 things in the HTML code to see it... |
| 22:13 |
gerards |
hi everyone. |
| 22:55 |
ceed |
anyone here experienced with draft workspaces? |
| 22:55 |
ceed |
i'm still wondering why newly created pagecontent on a newly created page is not referenced to that page automatically |
| 23:07 |
uschi |
hi gerards :) |
| 23:37 |
gerards |
hey. how're you doing/ |
| 23:46 |
ipseos |
"when using MySQL 5.x you need to set the sql-mode to MYSQL4 (edit your my.cnf or my.ini):" |
| 23:46 |
ipseos |
is it still necessary to revert to mysql4 mode? |
| 23:48 |
gerards |
ipseos: i never read that in my life. |
| 23:49 |
gerards |
my dev server is with mysql 5. seems ok so far. |
| 23:49 |
ipseos |
it was from http://wiki.typo3.org/index.php/Windows - it seems outdated |
| 23:49 |
ipseos |
i am trying to isntall onto win2k3 |
| 23:49 |
ipseos |
but having some problems |
| 23:52 |
ipseos |
says something permission denied |
| 23:52 |
ipseos |
gerards: are you on unix or win? |
| 23:59 |
gerards |
i'm on lamp. |
| 23:59 |
gerards |
linux that is. |
