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00:36 Ries does win2k3 means windows 2300???
00:38 |Lurch1 is there some way to make a typo3 constant or variable and insert it into a text content element? (i want to set a phone number and be able to easily change it anywhere it appears on the site)
06:50 Doloana Hello¡
06:51 Doloana is anybody around that can help me?
06:51 |Lurch1 probably not.
06:51 Doloana :)
06:51 |Lurch1 i asked a question many hours ago, and you are the only one who said anything since then.
06:52 Doloana I want to ask a basic installation question about typo3. May be you can help me?
06:52 |Lurch1 i doubt it, but i can try
06:53 Doloana Or may be I can help you, but I'm new with typo3
06:54 Doloana The think is that after installing Typo trought Fantastico, I log in and the backend seems to charge properly but I can't see anything
06:54 Doloana And I don't receive any error messages
06:55 Doloana I've been reading around and I didn't found any message about it
06:55 Doloana What do you think?
06:55 |Lurch1 i don't know what Fantastico is.
06:56 |Lurch1 but it sounds like something that doesn't let you look at logs.
06:56 Doloana Fantastico is an automatic scripts installer
06:57 Doloana which so many hosting providers give for easy install on different scripts
06:58 Doloana I tried also to install typo in the normal way but because free hosting providers do not give SSH access, I have to use the ZIP version
06:58 Doloana And I can't finish the installation at all
06:59 Doloana What was your question?
07:00 |Lurch1 is there some way to make a typo3 constant or variable and insert it into a text content element? (i want to set a phone number and be able to easily change it anywhere it appears on the site)
07:03 Doloana As you have noticed I'm new at typo3 so that sounds like chinese to me (I'm European) I'so sorry but I don't know the awnser. May be if you put this variable in between two blocks of text?
07:04 |Lurch1 that's more difficult than just hardcoding :)
07:05 Doloana I supose¡ :(
07:05 Doloana I just wanted to give a simple sugestion¡
07:06 Doloana How long did you've been practising with typo3?
07:09 Doloana I'll like to know about your fisrt time installation with typo. I've been trying to install it in different web severs and I can't make it work in any of them¡
07:09 Doloana I'm very disapointed about that
07:26 max_muetze Doloana: try to put the unzipped package directly on your ftp-server.. i think thats the mostly used way and therefore you can get more help...
07:27 max_muetze |Lurch1: i think i would create a content element (i.e. a text) and then insert it via type=insert record into the page
07:28 Doloana thanks max but I tried and it didn't worked
07:28 max_muetze but i am also very new in typo3, so i don't know if it is the best way
07:28 Doloana which host are you using?
07:28 max_muetze Doloana: what is the error you get?
07:28 max_muetze i am using hosteurop
07:28 max_muetze hosteurope
07:29 max_muetze which one are you using?
07:29 Doloana I tried in ifastnet and profusehost
07:29 Doloana and none of them worked¡
07:29 max_muetze are they freehosting provider?
07:30 Doloana yes, they are
07:30 Doloana In Profusehost is possible to install it trought fantastico
07:31 max_muetze i think you should look for a hoster that provides at least .htaccess.. i think you wouldn't have much fun without it..
07:31 max_muetze only for testing purposes probably..
07:31 max_muetze i also don't have shell-access so thats not the problem..
07:31 |Lurch1 max_muetze: i want it in the middle of a text content element
07:31 Doloana and at the moment that I log in I do not have any errors but I can't not see the backend
07:32 max_muetze Doloana: are you sure that really all files are uploaded?
07:32 Doloana yes
07:32 Doloana I think so
07:33 max_muetze Doloana: have you access to the install tool?
07:33 Doloana in profusehost yes
07:33 max_muetze |Lurch1: then i think you can set a variable in typoscript but thats out of my competence at the moment...
07:34 max_muetze Doloana no, i think of the install tool of typo3
07:34 |Lurch1 max_muetze: me too.
07:34 Doloana but in step2 the install tool just dies sayin that cant create the database
07:36 max_muetze yes thats okay because you have to create one before.. i think this way only works if your are using your own sql-server..
07:37 max_muetze try to create the database in the tool thats provided from your hoster
07:38 Doloana I did it, but when I go to the install tool, I can't not select the database in step 2
07:41 max_muetze of which hoster are we talking at the moment?
07:41 Doloana Profusehost
07:41 max_muetze okay, can you
07:41 max_muetze sorry..
07:41 max_muetze ;)
07:43 max_muetze hm, it seems to be not a features-thing..
07:43 max_muetze i mean it looks that they provide all relevant technologies..
07:44 Doloana I think so
07:44 Doloana I don't know if can be because they put ads when you connect to the backend?
07:46 max_muetze hm, i think when they are providing a script for typo3 it is modified for the ads.. so it is possible that it only works that way but it could be hard to get some help here in that case..
07:46 max_muetze did you tried their own support yet?
07:47 Doloana they give no support till you pay
07:49 max_muetze there was another question related to cPanel from Glimps yesterday.. probably he's using the same hoster...
07:51 Doloana Another host wich I tried is phpnet.us and asking to their support, they said that is possible to install typo3, but I can't
07:53 Doloana in phpnet.us, when I try to go to the typo3 install tool, after to put the install password, the browser just starts loading the page and stays there forever. No errors
07:54 max_muetze i always have problems with the first page of the install tool - it never accepts the password after uploading... try to change it in the localconf.php file... it could also be a browser-cache related thing, don't know
07:54 Doloana And I think that they give all the requiremets for typo as well
07:55 Doloana you mean changing directly the MD5 encriptes string for the password?
07:55 max_muetze yes
07:56 Doloana Ok, I'll be back in a few seconds
07:56 max_muetze and probably use temporarily another (clean) browser or just clean your cache
08:10 Doloana I'm having problems with the server. It seems to be down at the moment. But I will try your suggestions later on
08:10 Doloana At the moment I can access to my server but I can't edit localconf.php file at the moment
08:11 max_muetze is the file uploaded per "fantastico"
08:11 max_muetze ?
08:11 Doloana no
08:11 Doloana one second
08:12 max_muetze because you have to be the owner of the file to modify it
08:12 Doloana now I accessed
08:12 Doloana I've got all the permissions
08:12 Doloana set to 777
08:12 Doloana which is really unsefe
08:12 Doloana sorry unsafe
08:13 max_muetze yes, you can change it after the setup
08:21 Doloana I still have the same problem, after tryin to log in, the browser stays trying to charge the step 1 install page
08:21 Doloana it doesn't solve it
08:27 max_muetze Doloana: try another browser
08:27 max_muetze i also have to try a lot till i get to step 2
08:28 Doloana Ok, one second
08:30 Doloana I cleaned cookies, cache, etc and I still have the same result
08:31 Doloana I use tu surf usually with firefox and this last try was with IE6
08:35 Doloana What you mean that you had to try I lot before you get step 2
08:36 Doloana thanks for your help, but I have to go. I'll be back in a couple of hours
08:36 max_muetze yes i have to try another browser/password/machine
08:38 Doloana thanks a lot, I'll keep trying
08:38 Doloana see you later
08:41 max_muetze np
08:41 max_muetze see you
08:46 koomi moin
09:24 maxua hello
09:26 maxua ppl, I can't get ttnews working for be user. user can change pages, granted permissions on category, but I don't see any way to publish article with that user :(
09:27 maxua is there any place to look for good tt_news tutorial?
09:34 dokma hi al
09:34 dokma got some questions
09:34 dokma I've got two servers
09:35 dokma one t3 3.8.0 and one with 4.0.3
09:35 dokma i need to migrate my web from 3.8.0 to 4.0.3
09:35 dokma i installed all the extensions and configured the new server the same as the old one
09:35 dokma how to transfer the page tree with all the files?
09:41 koomi dokma: klick on your root page (page tree), select "more options" and "export to t3d"
09:41 koomi i'd rather advise you to upgrade tho - what with those recent exploits and the rte trouble
09:51 dokma i did just that koomi
09:51 dokma i exported to t3d
09:51 koomi dokma: goodie. so now import it into your new server
09:57 max_muetze can somebody say why there are different colors for the extensions in the emanager? i don't think of the colors of stable/alpha/beta but of the backgound like red or grey.
10:09 andreasbalzer hi! can somebody tell me, whether the /media folder is a default T3 folder and for what it is used?
10:09 andreasbalzer can I remove it or does a default T3 installation (source+dummy) use it=
10:09 andreasbalzer ?
10:13 andreasbalzer noone online?
10:17 dokma i don't think theres a media folder by default?
10:17 dokma not sure
10:17 andreasbalzer i just looked.. there is one delivered with source package
10:18 andreasbalzer but i wonder, because it contains all images of the former testsite package...
10:19 just2b good morning
10:19 andreasbalzer good afternoon ;)
10:19 just2b can someone help with reproducing a small bug... I need 4.1. + css_styled_content + a content element image
10:19 just2b and xhtml valide code (e.g. 1.1.)
10:23 elbart mooin
10:24 elbart sry, amsg.... hi :)
10:25 andreasbalzer anyone with experience with dam beta05?
10:59 uschi_ no, andreasbalzer
11:08 uschi Hi folks
11:08 uschi can someone give me a hint, how i can enable the module Web->Template for non admin users?
11:10 just2b uschi: no way and this is also not good,... search for alternativ solution
11:10 uschi there must be a way
11:10 just2b what do you want to do?
11:11 uschi i want certain users to be able to edit constants via the constants editor
11:11 just2b for what do you need the constants?
11:11 uschi for setting up what we call portals in our project
11:11 just2b what would I call "portals"?
11:11 uschi it is needed, there is no discussion about that
11:12 just2b make it over the page properties
11:12 uschi this is inconvenient
11:12 just2b why?=
11:12 uschi the constants editor is perfect, because you just have to change values, not to (mis)type variable names
11:13 just2b page properties too
11:13 uschi what do you mean by page properties?
11:13 just2b german: seiteneigenschaften
11:14 uschi i cannot set constants in the page properties
11:14 just2b no but you can check the values out there in your ts
11:14 uschi in MY ts?
11:14 just2b i have an extension which allows users to set the value for special = direcotry .. best solution
11:14 just2b of course
11:15 uschi we will need more than one admin
11:15 uschi the project is too big
11:15 just2b ?
11:15 just2b admin?
11:15 uschi and we will also need a kind of subadmins
11:15 just2b what has this to do with that
11:15 uschi with limited access to templates
11:16 just2b then modify ext tstemplate_ceditor if you think this is good
11:16 just2b i guess you need to do more then that.. but who cares.. no discussion available ;))
11:17 uschi it is not, that we plan to give this right away to each and every user
11:18 just2b I would still go the other way
11:18 uschi blowing up the pages table just because users may not set a few constants
11:18 just2b you can make more things with the TCA in page propertires
11:18 just2b blowing up.. oh come on... 3 more fields?
11:19 uschi which will be empty for most of our some 3000 pages!
11:19 just2b so?
11:19 uschi it is inelegant
11:19 just2b you know how many fields are also most of the time empty? you know how many fields there are at pages
11:19 uschi i know
11:20 just2b LOL "hacking a core extension" vs. "the way to do with own extension" ;)
11:20 uschi from this point of view my current approach might be evil
11:20 uschi i agree
11:21 just2b 2nd way is solved in 10min and has absolutly no influence to any thing like speed, but ok,. have fun
11:21 uschi if there is no other way but hacking the core
11:21 just2b yes, the way you don't want to hear
11:21 uschi fon
11:21 just2b or make the user admin
11:21 uschi wait a decond, phonecall, just2b
11:29 uschi just2b, so you suggest to write an extension that adds the needed fields to the pages table?
11:29 just2b yes
11:29 uschi and introduce a new page type
11:30 just2b why a new page type?
11:30 uschi then access to this page type will only be given to those uses mentioned above
11:30 just2b no new page type
11:30 uschi and i can do things via this page type in my template
11:30 just2b yes
11:31 uschi and it is impossible to write an extension that enables the constants editor for non admin users
11:32 uschi means: if i want that, i will have to hack the core
11:32 uschi ?
11:32 just2b yes
11:32 uschi i thought about those sys_actions
11:32 uschi cannot one define such an action?
11:32 just2b NO USER HAS ACCESS TO TS
11:33 uschi normally a user does not have access to be users as well
11:33 uschi but there is a command for that
11:33 uschi understand what i mean?
11:33 just2b yes
11:34 uschi i will have to use this action for those users anyway
11:34 uschi and i do not understand why NO user may have access to ts
11:35 koomi uschi: perhaps if a user can change page ts they can reconfigure appearance and denied modules/options
11:36 uschi this is actually what i want them to do
11:36 uschi if i do nothing, i have to setup those users as admins
11:36 uschi even between admins you might like to have job sharing
11:37 uschi i simply do not understand the philosophy behind this
11:39 just2b uschi: with TS you can change everything, so it is only for admins
11:40 uschi i want some subadmins, they shall not be bothered with each and everything
11:40 uschi they shall be able to add be_groups and users based on a matrix
11:40 uschi create a certain part page tree
11:41 uschi and edit some constants
11:41 just2b users with the actions
11:41 uschi yes
11:41 just2b create page tree > fnctions
11:41 just2b constants > no way
11:42 uschi you mean, the pagetree part has to be done by an extension?
11:43 just2b what do you mean? every user can create pages and a pagetrreee
11:43 uschi because you set, create page tree > functions?
11:43 uschi sounded like a wizard
11:43 just2b be module funcitons/
11:44 uschi this lets you create multiple pages, i know
11:44 uschi but the pages have to have certain properties
11:45 just2b so they have to be set afterwards
11:45 uschi so i thought of storing the necessary matrix structur in some sys_folder
11:45 just2b there is also a ext to create a real tree
11:45 just2b also possible and the user drags the tree around and copies it
11:45 uschi create real tree sounds interesting
11:46 uschi do you know the name of the extension?
11:46 just2b wizard_crpagetree
11:49 uschi just2b, did you use that wizard?
11:50 uschi because there is no documentation
11:50 bane007 hi there! how could i insert different image for each page at specific level so that all the subpages from that page would have the same image. i'm trying to do that with subparts. thanks for any answer!
11:50 just2b yes
11:50 just2b just install and go to functions and select in dropdown, rest self explaining
11:50 uschi is it selfexplaining?
11:50 uschi k
12:08 uschi just2b?
12:08 uschi what are those additional fields for?
12:09 just2b don't know.. i just use it for making a tree
12:09 uschi what a pity :-(
12:12 isolysis can someone please help me setup up the write permissions for typo3 on a windows 2003 server?
12:13 uschi http://typo3.org/documentation/document-library/extension-manuals/constant_editor/0.1.3/view/1/1/#id2768232
12:13 uschi look at this one, just2b
12:13 just2b so there is the solution
12:14 uschi looks like it
12:19 Ries isolysis: I think you need to ask a windows forum or channel...
12:20 Ries isolysis: Not to many people use windows for webservices here
12:20 isolysis i see
12:20 isolysis alright
12:20 Ries isolysis: In general it's the same method for all of yout php applications... i remember you ad A PERMISSIONS PROBLEM
12:21 Ries isolysis: and in general it means set the files to the same users as teh webserver runs under....
12:21 isolysis i am just trying to figure out which user/group needs to have the read write execute permissions
12:21 Ries isolysis: the last time I used windows was at least 1 year ago.... and I have never even touched or seen windows 2003
12:22 isolysis i understand. i think it would be better to ask a windows it guy to find out which user is running the webserver
12:26 Ries isolysis: google is your friend I think... Windows is differcult and people keep on struggling with it... you are not the first one that asks here
12:27 Ries isolysis: apache under any linux or BSD variant (I use os x) is a snap to install and get things going
12:27 andreasbalzer does somebody of you has 2 minutes time and a feeling for nice design? :)
12:27 isolysis i managed to get typo3 up and running in around 3 days on unix.. and that was relatively easy
12:28 just2b my accounts run with 1 click ^^
12:32 isolysis Ries: I am thinking about granting IUSR_machinename write permissions for certain directories... however, I am concerned that since anonymous/everyone access is logged onto the system through the same name, that public will be able to write to these directories. How can I test if the public can write to that directory?
12:36 Ries isolysis: I don't have a clue ... I don¡t do windows.... In general yous et the permissions to teh same application of ISS
12:38 isolysis if I can rephrase my question.. lets say there is a website xyz.com/directory/ and I suspect that public can get write access to it also.. how could i exploit that, is there a test I can do to try and 'hack' my own site?
12:38 isolysis or if anyone else knows even!
12:39 andreasbalzer just a little question: where would you place additional advertisement zones on www.ess-erfurt.de?
12:40 bane007 hi there! how could i insert different image for each page at specific level so that all the subpages from that page would have the same image. i'm trying to do that with subparts. thanks for any answer!
12:40 andreasbalzer bane007: use templates and constants
12:45 bane007 andreasbalzet: i'm using them... i will ask other way... i'm copying temporary image object in main template from extension template where that image object is defined. is there any possibility to use that image objecz on specific page and subpages of that image only?
12:45 bane007 tmp.TOPIMAGE = IMAGE
12:45 bane007 tmp.TOPIMAGE.file = uploads/tf/about_us.gif
12:46 bane007 page.10.subparts.TOPIMAGE < tmp.TOPIMAGE
12:46 andreasbalzer i have no knowledge about it. sry
12:46 bane007 that image appear but i would like it to, as i said, appear on specific page and its subpages only
12:46 bane007 anyone alse?
13:10 Ries bane007: that sounds about right what you are doing there
13:21 bane007 Ries: yes but that image is shon on all the pages
13:21 bane007 i would like it to be shown on specific only
13:21 bane007 and i'm not sure how to do it
13:22 bane007 shon=shown
13:27 Ries bane007: what about an condition?
13:30 Ries are there any login/registration systems that can handle proper redirects based on a workflow? For example after a user created a press-release (my own extension) I need to check if a user s logged in. If not I need to register him
13:30 Ries However I need to have a login system that allows me to redirect back to a page (can be different) with different GET params..
13:36 bane007 Ries: hmm can you prive me some example for condition logics?
13:41 dokma i just transfered my site to the new server via t3d
13:41 dokma now I cannot login
13:41 dokma any ideas as to why?
13:41 dokma I tried setting my pwd to empty string
13:41 dokma via phpmyadmin
13:45 fabb accounts with empty pw's don't work afaik
13:45 fabb and with the default md5 compare it cannot work
13:48 Ries bane007: in TS ref there are some exccelent examples
13:48 Ries dokma: You cannot set your password to a emoty string for the BE since it's a MD5
13:48 Ries fabb: Oops... you where first :)
13:48 Ries I didn't read it all the way down...
13:57 dokma thank you
13:57 dokma the problem was that during the import it misteriously added a 0 to admins username
13:57 dokma so I created a new admin and fixed things
13:57 dokma it works now
13:58 gerards hi Ries
14:01 PaulLS Is there a way to move templates created for one area into another with templavola/
14:18 gerards PaulLS: I think most of us are unclear what you mean. if you mean templates as in template records, then you can just copy them to another part of your page tree (I again assume "area" to mean parts of the page tree).
14:18 gerards perhaps more information?
14:34 Ries Hey gerards
14:34 gerards yeah?
14:35 gerards hey i can't find the program call extgrow.
14:35 gerards i found gparted.
14:35 gerards but it requires me to boot from knoppix.
14:35 gerards I downloaded it last night, and will gpart my ubuntu soon. unless you have a better-easy-one-click solution.
14:36 Ries gerards: do you have resize2fs ?
14:36 gerards let me see....
14:36 gerards nope.
14:36 Ries gerards: resize2fs
14:36 Ries Hmm
14:36 Ries wait
14:36 Ries I wanted to copy/paste something
14:37 Ries http://www.hermann-uwe.de/blog/resizing-ext3-partitions-with-parted
14:37 gerards yep i read that.
14:37 Ries look in google, there are many hints
14:38 gerards all are command line stuff. I'm just afraid that if I type the wrong number or something :) everything will screw up.
14:38 Ries next time try to use lvm with xfs... or just xfs...... But xfs on top of lvm is really cool
14:38 Ries Make a copy first ;)
14:38 gerards yeah... i should have used xfs.
14:39 gerards well ext3 isn't THAT bad too. Its real solid.
14:42 Ries ext3 is good and solid, and easy to upgrade from ext2
14:42 Ries it's a bit slow under somecinditions...
14:43 gerards apt-get install resize2fs fails. "couldn't find package resize2fs"
14:44 gerards I'm just going to run gnome from the knoppix, and try gparted.
14:44 gerards Ries: i prefer something graphical so i don't accidently set the wrong params.
14:44 gerards Ries: I'm not a sys admin after all...
14:46 ceed hey
14:46 ceed i'm still wondering why in the draft workspace newly created pagecontent on a newly created page is not referenced to that page automatically
14:47 ceed anyone got a clue?
14:47 ceed or can probably reproduce that?
14:47 Ries ceed: did you maul typo3-enlgis wit the question? may be somebody knows there
14:49 ceed both typo3-english and just now typo3-german
14:49 ceed no answer yet
14:49 ceed can you probably try to reproduce my problem on your installation ries?
14:49 ceed i'm wondering if this is a local problem due to some configuration changes on my part
14:50 Ries sorry, I don0t know anythign about workspaces
14:51 bane007 how could i check page level in condition sentence? e.g. [level = 0]
14:51 gerards bane007: [treeLevel = 0]
14:51 Ries bane007: here is the doc : http://typo3.org/documentation/document-library/references/doc_core_tsref/4.0.0/view/4/1/
14:54 bane007 gerards & Ries: thanks!
15:05 irzyxel hey
15:05 irzyxel im a bit confused about the rte
15:06 irzyxel it doesnt ship anymore and it doesnt want to install as global extensions, so what do you use now really
15:06 ceed http://bugs.typo3.org/view.php?id=4663
15:06 ceed Ries: http://bugs.typo3.org/view.php?id=4663
15:06 ceed irzyxel: http://bugs.typo3.org/view.php?id=5662
15:06 gerards irzyxel: just go to ext manager and install locally.
15:06 irzyxel heh
15:07 gerards rte_htmlarea (gosh I don't remember exactly how its spelt) is mature.
15:07 irzyxel Issue 5662 not found.
15:08 irzyxel hmm, dont have that in my list
15:08 irzyxel hmm
15:08 irzyxel rtehtmlarea "only found on this server"
15:09 irzyxel 1.5.1dev
15:09 irzyxel is that frmo 4.1 or a leftover of my 3.8 ?
15:10 ceed you want 1.5.1a
15:10 ceed irzyxel: http://bugs.typo3.org/view.php?id=5266
15:11 ceed sorry, didn't remember the number correctly
15:12 irzyxel hmm, why aint it in the rep
15:17 ceed probably because they're sitll working on some quirks?
15:18 ceed Ries: actually that only happens in list view!
15:23 Ries ceed: sorry, I don't use workspaces nor I know how they really work and behave
15:29 max_muetze can anybody help me please? i just installed a clean typo3 4.1 then a few extensions and the yaml.t3d template. and there is nothing to see on the page! i had this working before but changed now to charset utf-8 and started with a clean db. could this be the problem?
15:30 max_muetze you can look at it on http://www.typo3.christianeiselt.de
15:32 max_muetze ie shows as error "efa_fontSize" is undefined (line 40 char 1)
15:42 Doloana hello max I'm back
15:42 Doloana Ihad this error before
15:42 max_muetze really?
15:42 max_muetze hm i am at uploading again... :/
15:43 max_muetze probably it is because of an ext
15:43 Doloana I'm opening your site and it says that you have to define the tslib path
15:43 max_muetze Doloana how far are you
15:43 Doloana I'm in Spain
15:43 Doloana And you?
15:43 max_muetze ah yes it i cleared it
15:44 max_muetze i am in switzerland
15:44 Doloana beside the corner :)
15:44 max_muetze but i meant how far you are with your typo3 install
15:44 max_muetze ;)
15:44 Doloana :) :)
15:44 uschi hihi, you are all so far away
15:44 max_muetze hello uschi
15:44 Doloana I founf that the instalation is correct
15:45 uschi hopefully not with your t3 installation
15:45 max_muetze i read your question from yesterday..
15:45 uschi and?
15:45 Doloana hi uschi
15:45 uschi hello Doloana :)
15:45 max_muetze i have found a much better solution with andreasbalzer
15:45 uschi and that is?
15:45 max_muetze i will display my rss-feed with tw_rssfeeds
15:46 max_muetze i didn't found how to display images with it and he said it works
15:46 Doloana After installing opera I had the same problem, I can't see anything
15:46 max_muetze (i think he was it ^^)
15:46 uschi i am really struggling with this rights management
15:47 Doloana but I found the error console which displays some errors about css not being properly displayed
15:47 max_muetze Doloana can you make a /query ?
15:48 Doloana I'm sorry, but What is a query?
15:48 max_muetze right-click on my name and click at query
15:49 uschi Doloana, query means a private dialogue
15:49 max_muetze yes ;)
15:49 uschi you can also open one by typing /query max_muetze
15:49 max_muetze i think i can help you further only with a few more details of your webhosting
15:49 uschi although i think, on this server you have to be a registered user to open queries
15:55 m4rtijn hey
16:04 m4rtijn silence... :p
16:10 uschi hi m4rtijn
16:52 max_muetze is anybody here who uses the yaml-framework in typo3?
16:52 uschi not me, max_muetze :)
16:53 max_muetze ;)
16:53 uschi i like to write my own html-templates and my own css, those fights with IE6, i just could not live without that kind of trouble
16:54 max_muetze uschi: i am very satisfied with yaml.. i use it already in joomla...
16:54 uschi sure, but i like to know, what i am doing
16:54 max_muetze yesterday i blogged already with ms word on my website (with timtab)
16:55 irzyxel disgusting
16:55 max_muetze but it seems to dislike the german ü and so on
16:55 max_muetze so i changed the charset to utf8
16:55 uschi this is a question of your language settings
16:55 max_muetze and now my site looks like a white paper... :-/
16:55 uschi hm
16:56 uschi let me have a quick look at it, max_muetze
16:56 max_muetze i restore the state of yesterday now and then i will look further
16:56 uschi irzyxel, what is disgusting? that i like to know what i am doing?
16:56 max_muetze i think he means word
16:56 max_muetze ;)
16:56 irzyxel <max_muetze> yesterday i blogged already with ms word
16:56 max_muetze uschi: look at http://www.typo3.christianeiselt.de
17:21 max_muetze uschi? still around?
17:33 max_muetze hello, is someone here who can help me with "ts debugging"?
17:34 max_muetze i don't know what this means but i think it could help me getting my site working again
17:38 irzyxel http://www.typo3.christianeiselt.de/ is empty for me
17:38 irzyxel jfyi
17:39 max_muetze yes that's right... it is because of the forcecharset=utf-8 flag
17:39 irzyxel Error: efa_fontSize is not definedSource File: http://www.typo3.christianeiselt.de/Line: 27
17:39 irzyxel http://www.typo3.christianeiselt.de/fileadmin/scripts/efa_fontsize.js doesnt exist
17:39 max_muetze yes i read this error but i don't know what it mean
17:40 irzyxel its loaded but it doesnt exist
17:40 max_muetze ah
17:40 irzyxel thats good old html and basics and not ts, heh
17:41 max_muetze oh damn... i forgot the main thing... :/
17:41 max_muetze thanks for opening my eyes.. ;)
17:41 max_muetze of course i have to upload the template-sources..
17:45 max_muetze great
17:45 max_muetze ;) now it works again
17:46 PaulLS Question about templavoila... I've created a template that is working just fine, however the linked stylesheet (which I'm selecting using the select header parts feature of TV) isn't working.
17:46 PaulLS is there something I'm missing to get the stylesheet to link?
17:47 |Lurch1 PaulLS: try "clear cache".
17:48 PaulLS thanks
17:49 PaulLS well.. that had the interesting result of producing a completely blank page
17:49 PaulLS with two stylesheets linked
17:49 PaulLS mine and the one typo creates
17:50 PaulLS oh.. I had deselected the body tag
17:50 PaulLS bet that's it
17:52 PaulLS ... nope
17:52 PaulLS hrmm.
17:52 |Lurch1 PaulLS: clear cache again?
17:52 irzyxel shift reload
17:53 PaulLS tried that, thanks for the suggestion.. what I get is the right headers with <body></body>
17:53 PaulLS nothing inbetween
18:10 PaulLS I've taken to starting from scratch by deleting all the pages TV created and starting from scratch..
18:10 PaulLS wish there was a way to delete a page and all its subpages at once
18:11 |Lurch1 PaulLS: there is. i asked for it, was pointed to it... but don't remember where it is now.
18:11 PaulLS I found some mailing list things that point to the user admin area and allowing recursive deletion of directories, however that's enabled and it still gives me the error
18:11 PaulLS so I think that might apply to something else
18:11 PaulLS unless.. I need to clear cache again ;)
18:28 PaulLS I just keep running into roadblocks :P
18:33 PaulLS I named the test templavoila
18:33 PaulLS oops..
18:33 PaulLS I named the test templavoila "Home TV" and then went back and renamed the root page "My Site" and it now shows "Home TV: My Site" in the title bar
18:34 PaulLS instead of what i was going for... "My Site"
18:41 PaulLS wow that option was burried ;)
19:37 uschi can someone please tell me, what might be the cause of the following php warning in the be?
19:38 uschi Warning: mysql_fetch_assoc(): supplied argument is not a valid MySQL result resource in /var/www/t3player/ttypista/t3sources/typo3_src-4.1/t3lib/class.t3lib_db.php on line 796
19:38 uschi it turns up from time to time in the be, does not do any harm, but i do not like it
19:41 zat try to go to BE, dbanalyser > check index or something like that
19:46 uschi that was for me, zat, right?
19:50 zat yes
19:50 zat sorry, forget to give your nick ;)
19:50 uschi i did as you said and was informed that some tables need field changes
19:51 uschi and some cache thing
19:51 zat have you make an update version ?
19:51 uschi no, i installed 4.1
19:51 uschi from scratch
19:52 uschi or well, i imported the pagetree from another version
20:14 uschi ah, there you are your very self again
20:23 m4rtijn good evening
20:25 m4rtijn does anyone know why my NEWS marker isnt replaced by this: http://phpfi.com/221922
20:31 zatmania uschi, all is ok now ?
20:31 zatmania m4rtijn, are you sure for your syntax ?
20:33 zatmania i think it's mode and not code
20:34 m4rtijn yeah syntax is ok.. its directly from the manual
20:34 zatmania here my template for tt_news
20:35 zatmania http://phpfi.com/221924
20:35 zatmania i use TV
20:37 m4rtijn thx, though I dont use TV :p
20:39 m4rtijn It annoys me a bit that my marker is still visible.. even if I have syntax or progging errors, the marker should be gone
20:41 zatmania use the TS obeject browser to see if all is ok
20:41 m4rtijn hmm , never done that.. what do I have to look out for?
20:42 m4rtijn hmm, yeah.. under marks.. theres no mention of my NEWS marker
20:43 uschi seems so zatmania
20:44 zatmania uschi, well news :)
20:48 m4rtijn hmm, strange.. didnt make any changes.. just cut, saved, cleared cache, pasted again..
20:48 m4rtijn now it works :p
20:52 zatmania lol
20:52 zatmania typo 3 and its mysteries :D
20:54 andreasbalzer_we hello everybody :)
20:55 andreasbalzer_we I would like to know, whether it is possible to change T3's behavior of the usage of tidy in a way, that tidy is only executed, if the mime type of the document is html or xhtml... Any ideas?
20:56 andreasbalzer_we maybe just one idea?
20:57 m4rtijn hi.. no idea
20:57 andreasbalzer_we hi ;)
20:57 andreasbalzer_we are you familiar with T3 ext development?
20:59 m4rtijn very little
20:59 andreasbalzer_we i'm looking for someone who might be able to code an extension for free, which is able to send the T3 document through csstidy
21:00 andreasbalzer_we i can place advertisments on my page
21:01 Ries andreasbalzer_we: I think tody is very hard coded into typo3...
21:01 andreasbalzer_we hi ries
21:01 Ries andreasbalzer_we: it brings me to the idea tat it should be possible to make a tody extension for that perpose
21:01 andreasbalzer_we well there are some extensions that use tidy more dynamicly
21:02 Ries andreasbalzer_we: did you see this one already? http://typo3.org/extensions/repository/view/stfl_tidystdwrap/0.2.0/
21:02 andreasbalzer_we the problem for me is, that tidy wants to parse my css code although the mime type is set to css..
21:02 m4rtijn are you guys watching boxing? maske Vs. Hill ?
21:02 m4rtijn :p
21:02 andreasbalzer_we ries: it seems to have no doc..
21:03 zatmania no i go sleeping
21:03 andreasbalzer_we m4rtijn: I'm thinking about ;)
21:03 zatmania nite all
21:03 andreasbalzer_we zatmania:good night ;)
21:04 Ries andreasbalzer_we: you need PostUserFunc : http://typo3.org/extensions/repository/view/stfl_tidystdwrap/0.2.0/info/static%252Fsetup.txt/
21:04 Ries andreasbalzer_we: I 'MIGHT' needs something like that in a couple of weeks, I'll let you know
21:04 andreasbalzer_we well i need something like 'Do you want to use tidy for this template? -> Yes, please' ;)
21:11 Denyerec ceed... ?
21:12 Denyerec I saw the response on the mailling list.
21:12 Denyerec In a word... DOH :)
21:12 uschi hi Denyerec :)
21:12 Denyerec Hey uschi
21:13 Denyerec Wild saturday night for you too eh? :)
21:13 uschi oh yes, really
21:13 uschi with you in this room :))
21:13 m4rtijn and me :p
21:13 uschi yes
21:14 Denyerec I promise, no insane typoscript missions from me tonight.
21:14 uschi *L*
21:14 uschi what else then, apart from burning carpets
21:14 Denyerec Though I am still contemplating how to get only the first heading from a content element to be H1 and the rest H2...
21:15 Denyerec I'm contemplating killing some time playing STALKER (recent videogame) or re-styling the typo3 5.0 Definative Guide.
21:15 Denyerec Choices choices.
21:15 uschi there is this csc-firstheader thing
21:15 uschi just select the right header type
21:16 Denyerec Yes but that's a CSS selector isn't it ?
21:16 uschi or header layout
21:16 m4rtijn you should consider dl'ing c&c3 deny
21:16 m4rtijn you'd have more choices
21:16 uschi i suppose you can change the wrap, too
21:16 Denyerec Oh I looked at C&C3, it was OK, but didn't really grab me. Supreme commander was neat, but my PC choked on it :(
21:17 Denyerec uschi - changing the wrapping is what I need, as just a CSS selector isn't really semantically sound.
21:17 Denyerec And I know for a fact 99% of clients won't know what SEO is, so I must make an effort to structure their documents for them :)
21:18 uschi then have a look at static/setup.txt in css-styled-content
21:18 Denyerec YArrrr
21:18 uschi find out where csc-first-header comes in and then
21:18 Denyerec Wait! There was to be no Typoscript piracy this evening... :)
21:18 uschi a little ts orgy for you
21:19 m4rtijn arrr.. maske is getting smashed
21:19 m4rtijn poor guy
21:19 uschi what the hell are you talking about
21:19 uschi henry?
21:19 m4rtijn henry maske
21:20 Denyerec ?
21:20 m4rtijn a german pro boxer.. had a 10 year pause after his last fight against Hll
21:20 m4rtijn now.. a rematch
21:20 m4rtijn Hill*
21:22 Denyerec Ah
21:22 Denyerec And he's getting mangled?
21:22 m4rtijn looks like..
21:23 max_muetze_ maske seems to fall down soon...
21:23 max_muetze_ ;)
21:23 max_muetze_ the old man...
21:23 m4rtijn theyre both the same age
21:23 max_muetze_ ;) i know.. was a joke..
21:23 m4rtijn but Hill didnt had a 10 year pause.. only 1
21:24 m4rtijn I was expecting maske to be much worse though..
21:24 max_muetze_ but - as vitali said - nobody knows whether it is better to have a pause of 10 years or not
21:24 m4rtijn hehe..
21:25 m4rtijn do you know how much rounds the fight will be at max??
21:26 m4rtijn like when they stop fighting and decide with points?
21:26 Denyerec 10 isn'tit ?
21:27 Denyerec Stalker won.
21:27 Denyerec CSS can wait :)
21:27 m4rtijn :) hf deny
21:28 max_muetze_ henry wins!! k.o. in the third round!
21:28 max_muetze_ :D
21:28 m4rtijn hehe...
21:28 m4rtijn Why did Hill go so mad?
21:28 max_muetze_ he is scaring
21:28 m4rtijn yeah
21:28 m4rtijn good fight though.. until now
21:29 max_muetze_ yeah think so too
21:30 max_muetze_ is someone here using yaml?
21:33 Denyerec actually I might do the CSS
21:34 m4rtijn hehe, youre not rly good with decissions tonight ey.. :p
21:34 Denyerec NO kidding.
21:34 m4rtijn hehe
21:37 max_muetze_ can you please have a look at http://www.typo3.christianeiselt.de? what do you see?
21:38 m4rtijn being generated... then xml code
21:39 max_muetze_ funny... thx
21:39 m4rtijn yw
21:44 m4rtijn ouch :p
21:44 max_muetze_ aiaiaiaiai
21:46 m4rtijn and a standing ovation at the end of the round.. *yay nice headbutt* :p
21:48 max_muetze_ wow round 9 of 10?
21:49 m4rtijn probably
21:51 Ries Denyerec: You can set the heading for eahc content element
21:51 Denyerec You can ?
22:03 m4rtijn wow, looks like maske is winning..
22:08 max_muetze_ it is!
22:08 max_muetze_ :)
22:08 m4rtijn amazing
22:10 Ries Denyerec: yes you can
22:11 Denyerec With the layout field ?
22:11 Denyerec or automatically in the TS
22:11 Ries with teh layout field..
22:12 Ries Denyerec: doesn't css_styled-content also not give some CSS ?
22:12 Ries I 'think' I have seen it does it do it automaticly once
22:12 Ries but as you know... I don't care much as long as it looks ok :D
22:15 Denyerec I'm no tinterested in CSS
22:15 Denyerec I'm only interested in the semantic difference between h1 and h2 :)
22:15 Ries I think typo3 can do it somehow
22:16 m4rtijn darn it, I cant seem to get my own template file into tt_news
22:18 m4rtijn can anyone of you check this: http://phpfi.com/221943
22:21 gerards hi everyone
22:24 Denyerec hey gerards
22:24 gerards good saturday?
22:24 Denyerec Yeah not bad
22:25 Denyerec was a friend's birthday so we went to visit
22:30 Ries Denyerec: you didn't work during that time?
22:36 Denyerec When I went to visit him for his birthday?
22:36 Denyerec No!
22:37 Denyerec I not pass Australian immigration on two visas, skilled migrant and sponsored partner
23:11 gerards anyone ever use evms before? a linux app for managing partitions (manages LVMs too).
23:26 Ries gerards: Not me...
23:30 gerards evms seems to be a little more well documented than resize2fs...
23:30 Denyerec COMMUTERS. When you leave your house, sprint the first 200 yards and then revert back to your regular walking speed. This will save you from having to do the run of shame for the bus nearer the stop and look like a fool when you miss it.
23:31 gerards good tip.
23:32 m4rtijn but then I'd have to run every day.. whereas usualy I only run once every two weeks :p
23:35 Denyerec hehe
23:37 m4rtijn *yawn* ..
23:37 m4rtijn nightynight
23:38 m4rtijn cu tomorow I guess :p

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