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00:01 Ries j0hndeere: that's crap dude!!!
00:01 Ries You need to edit your DS, and find teh TS that renders the image...
00:01 Ries then set a appropriate gifbuilder height/widt to it
00:02 skou :-)
00:02 skou evening
00:03 j0hndeere yeah... I thought I had the DS properly set up...
00:25 Ries Hey skou
00:26 Ries I made my first gallery in MVC using lib/div!!! hurray
01:51 delmonico buaahahahahaahaha
01:51 delmonico 'Optimist for MS-Explorer & Netscape, (1024x768) but OK for all other'
01:51 delmonico someone is really 'optimistic' there :)
01:52 delmonico more fun at http://www.stardesign.at/eins/index.htm
02:08 nick108 Hi there, I've got a problem with pageNotFound_handling as reported on the mailing list, but nobody replied so far :-(
02:08 nick108 http://lists.netfielders.de/pipermail/typo3-english/2007-March/036712.html
02:08 nick108 anybody out there who's got some experience with 404 handling and stuff?
03:04 brosment Hi. I have problem with tt_content.stdWrap.dataWrap. It is work in my default language, but not in my another. Content in my another languages not wrapped as I set. How to solve this problem. I use typo3 4.1RC1, TV, CSS Styled Content
03:08 brosment Hi. I have problem with tt_content.stdWrap.dataWrap. It is work in my default language, but not in my another. Content in my another languages not wrapped as I set. How to solve this problem. I use typo3 4.1RC1, TV, CSS Styled Content
03:14 brosment Hey, Anybody, please help me
08:57 bane007 hi there! i have the same problem: http://lists.netfielders.de/pipermail/typo3-english/2006-July/028958.html Is there anyone with the solution? Big thanks for help!
11:14 fredddd can anybody tell me how to insert a defined var into a wrap not using |?
11:21 fredddd allWrap = <table width="80" id="TEMP_PAGE_TITLE.field"><tr><td><p class="TEMP_PAGE_TITLE.field">|</p></td></tr></table><td width="2"><img src="img/navsep.png" alt="" height="26" width="2"></td>
11:22 fredddd i want the clean pagetitle for TEMP_PAGE_TITLE.field, how to do that?
11:24 koomi .field = title
11:24 koomi .insert = 1
11:24 koomi ?
11:25 koomi or .data
11:25 koomi i can't remember this - got to google for it every time
11:27 fredddd well my problem is that i dont know the syntax to tell TS to interpret the TEMP_PAGE_TITLE.field as an var/array/whatever it is called
11:28 koomi hmm.
11:28 koomi why need a var?
11:28 fredddd mom
11:28 koomi you'd simply wrap the page title with <table .. id=|>
11:28 koomi and then wrap the rest around it
11:28 koomi use a coa if nothing helps :)
11:30 fredddd http://phpfi.com/211967 how to wrap this things one after the other?
11:30 fredddd because i want every sitelink with an own css style
11:31 koomi fredddd: can you show us your template?
11:31 fredddd well, sure, just started
11:32 koomi (the html one)
11:32 fredddd hum, k
11:32 fredddd http://phpfi.com/211975
11:34 koomi why do you need an id for every nav element?
11:34 koomi wouldn't this make it rather tricky to format the nav via css?
11:35 fredddd well i want to make buttons with small .ico's via css
11:35 koomi oh.
11:35 koomi hmm.
11:35 koomi :)
11:36 fredddd couldnt i use something like stripHTML(|) in the wrap? ^^
11:36 koomi ^^
11:40 koomi fredddd: you can try to wrap it with .field = title
11:40 koomi http://typo3.org/documentation/document-library/references/doc_core_tsref/4.0.0/view/5/1/
11:40 koomi .required might help
11:41 koomi http://www.typo3wizard.com/de/snippets/menus/individueller-wrap-fuer-jeden-link-bei-hmenu-special-browse.html
11:41 koomi this one might help
11:45 fredddd mhh i think i have to read a lot more tutorials to understand this ^^
11:47 koomi jep.
11:48 koomi try to do the other parts first
11:48 koomi you picked a rather tricky topic for starters
11:49 fredddd okay
11:56 Denyerec RAAAAAAAAaaaaaa
11:58 koomi good morning Denyerec
11:59 fredddd when i add a .css file to the template ressources shouldnt it be included to the template by typo3?
11:59 Denyerec hey koomi
11:59 Denyerec I got this last night!
11:59 Denyerec http://www.denyerec.co.uk/gallery.php?pic=LunarEclipeUK07
12:01 koomi yay. lunar eclipse?
12:01 koomi i thought it is today
12:01 koomi wow
12:01 koomi how'd you done it?
12:08 Denyerec Camera in back garden
12:08 Denyerec *click*
12:08 Denyerec it was yesterday between 8pm and 2am GMT
12:39 Denyerec Hey guys, if I set up a backend usergroup / user with access to certain content elements, and I install an extension that has a NEW type of content element or add a new FCE, will the existing users have access to that by default, or will it be denied by default ?
12:50 Ries morning geeks
12:51 bane007 hi there! i have the same problem: http://lists.netfielders.de/pipermail/typo3-english/2006-July/028958.html Is there anyone with the solution? Big thanks for help!
12:54 Ries bane007: good morning
12:55 Ries bane007: what version of typo3? I remember I have seen it, but since teh installation worked I didn't pay much attention to it
12:58 dookie hi all
12:59 dookie does somebody have already used a typo3-hook?
13:01 Ries dookie: I did
13:03 Denyerec Hey Ries, , if I set up a backend usergroup / user with access to certain content elements, and I install an extension that has a NEW type of content element or add a new FCE, will the existing users have access to that by default, or will it be denied by default ?
13:12 Ries Denyerec: doesn't that depend on the usergroup?
13:12 Denyerec Hmmm.
13:12 Denyerec I'm thinking of setting up 100 sites on the same tree
13:12 Denyerec So I'd have 100 usergroups
13:12 Denyerec 1 for each unique site
13:13 Denyerec (Or one generic group, and then customisations)
13:13 Denyerec so I would HOPE that the modules are disabled by default.
13:13 Denyerec :)
13:13 Ries Denyerec: that depends on the usergroups....
13:13 Ries so when a user is added to the group, he will get these permissions
13:14 Denyerec Right
13:14 Denyerec but if I install a new extension
13:14 dookie Ries: could you tell me how I can test if my function is called? because nothing happens... :-(
13:14 Denyerec will all usergroups get access to it by default
13:14 Denyerec or will I have to add it to the usergroup permissions
13:15 dookie Ries: I Am using the Hook in $GLOBALS['TYPO3_CONF_VARS']['SC_OPTIONS']['t3lib/class.t3lib_tcemain.php']['processDatamapClass'][]
13:19 Ries Denyerec: Ahhh install a extension, I would say it's disabled by default
13:19 Ries dookie: Normally what I do is find the hoo and debug it
13:19 Ries and see why your functions are not called
13:20 Denyerec Good
13:20 Denyerec cos if I planned to offer different customers things for a price, it'd be important to have it disabled!
13:20 Denyerec :)
13:21 dookie Ries: I think my class is called... because when I put some wrong code in it, then a php-error appears. But no action will performed.
13:23 koomi Denyerec: http://www.denyerec.co.uk/gallery.php?pic=Clouds1 :) nice one
13:23 Ries dookie: if you see the errors it basicly means that php compiles it
13:24 Ries dookie: Make a class constructor and see if you class was initliased is better
13:24 Denyerec thanks
13:25 Ries koomi: he is such a lucky bastard : http://www.denyerec.co.uk/gallery.php?pic=PertButt
13:33 dookie Ries:thx
13:36 Konrad2 hello
13:37 Konrad2 where it is set, that ###NEWS_TITLE### is <strong>
13:37 Konrad2 in which file?
13:41 Ries Konrad2: I don't know....
13:44 Konrad2 mhm
13:45 Konrad2 or how i can turn it off?
13:46 Konrad2 because all title of my news are <strong>
14:03 koomi Ries: Denyerec: Oh my. pertbutt is .. :)
14:04 koomi Konrad2: tt_news template? standard wrap for news_title?
14:05 Konrad2 whats wrap? in the tt_news template there is just written ###NEWS-TITLE### without strong
14:07 koomi Konrad2: perhaps it's wrapped in typoscript?
14:07 bane007 Ries: sorry i was away with my http://lists.netfielders.de/pipermail/typo3-english/2006-July/028958.html problem. It is 4.0.2 version. And as i remember, i had this problem with 3.8.1 version too. Strange thing is, it appeared all of sudden... Any halp?
14:07 koomi check the tt_news doc configuration part
14:17 Konrad2 wrap ist set off in the constant editor
14:17 Konrad2 oh sry. mom
14:18 Konrad2 where i can change the wrap?
14:20 Konrad2 the default of wrap3 is Default: <font face="verdana" size="1" color="white"><strong> | </strong></font>
14:23 Konrad2 thanks i have it
14:36 dookie Ries: After studying a little bit the Hooks-Stuff.. I am not sure anymore if hooks are the right solution for me.... What do you think? Scenario: my extension should organise some real estates... One journal has more real Estates (ID Relationship). Know: when i hide a journal all depended estates should be hidden to. Would you realise that with a hook or do you know an even better solution?
14:52 uffi hi folks
14:52 koomi hey uffuschi
14:52 uschi hey koomi
14:53 uschi can you answer one of my numerous questions?
14:54 uschi koomi, do you know a way how to find out about the level of a page in the tree by the uid of this page?
14:57 koomi uschi: uh.
14:57 koomi no idea. sorry
14:58 uschi the problem is, i have a lib.shared_mainmenu, but I need the entrylevel to be an automated parameter
15:00 koomi test for pidinrootline and set it by hand?
15:00 uschi too many instances
15:00 uschi it is the site of a university
15:01 koomi pages are subpages of the current?
15:01 fredddd how to add a "quicksearch" into my template?
15:01 koomi use .special = directory perhaps
15:01 uschi and if we decide to move a 'portal' one level up, we would always have to administer that manually
15:01 uschi hm
15:01 koomi what kind of menu? a "service" menu?
15:01 muh-die-kuh can fe users upload files to dam?
15:01 koomi that's basicly static or one that shows subpages?
15:02 uschi no, the normal main-menu
15:02 muh-die-kuh or is there a plugin that does this?
15:02 koomi muh-die-kuh: probably.
15:02 koomi fredddd: copy the plugin.tt_yourextension
15:02 uschi it shows subpages
15:02 koomi isn't the entrylevel the current page pid?
15:03 uschi no, you can set it manually
15:03 koomi anyways. i got to run: sun, coffee, altona, paper to read
15:03 uschi sounds important and a really good plan for the rest of the day :)
15:03 uschi i have papers to mark
15:03 koomi broken window theory, zero tolerance and graffiti
15:04 koomi good topic
15:04 koomi gone now
15:04 uschi ciao bello
15:04 uschi Denyerec, are you awake?
15:05 fredddd koomi: "copy"? i tried this: http://www.it-bo.com/typo3-templates/hilfe/indexed-search.html, is this the right thing?
15:15 Konrad2 Is anybody using "modern download" ?
15:21 dookie ries: ?
15:34 fredddd since i added the +ext indexed_search base template to my main template the FE just says theres no template.. does anybody know what i'm doing wrong?
15:36 Ries dookie: it sound like you simple need a correct DB relation
15:36 uschi Ries :)))
15:37 Ries Hey ushi
15:37 uschi Please tell me one thing, Ries. Is there a way to find out the level of a page identified by it's uid?
15:40 uschi I cannot find any, but that does not mean much :-(
15:46 Denyerec uschi
15:47 uschi hey Denyerec :)
15:47 Denyerec the ID of the page just increments.
15:47 Denyerec so you'd have to do something clever like recursively look up its parent pages to find its level.
15:47 Denyerec There may be a function for this already, I don't know :(
15:47 uschi neither do i
15:58 fredddd where to find the default indexed_search template file?
15:59 uschi i am not sure wether there is any
15:59 fredddd mhh then how to create one? :<
16:00 uschi let me look something up, i took some notes
16:00 Denyerec fredddd
16:00 Denyerec Dude
16:00 Denyerec !
16:00 Denyerec I have some pastecode.
16:01 fredddd pls paste it to the nopaste
16:01 uschi Denyerec, am I right, that there is no template file for indexed_search?
16:01 Denyerec http://wilcoding.xs4all.nl/Wilco/Pastecode/4276/showpaste.aspx
16:01 Denyerec I don't know uschi
16:01 Denyerec but that TS is how i made my search button on the frontpage of www.microwavemarketing.com
16:02 Denyerec I altered the CSS for the results as best as I could.
16:02 Denyerec well, actually, not as best as I could
16:02 Denyerec as they didn't wanna pay me
16:02 Denyerec :)
16:02 Denyerec But hey.... a man's gotta eat.
16:03 uschi i saw an extension called something like Templates for indexed search
16:04 uschi ch_is_templates
16:04 Denyerec Well spotted
16:05 Ries uschi: yes, you can find that out, why do you need it if I may ask?
16:06 uschi on my university page, i have portals (so we call them)
16:06 uschi they all have a mainmenu, but the entrylevel differs
16:06 uschi same for the breadcrumbsmenu
16:06 uschi so i would like to make the entrylevel dynamic
16:07 uschi by finding the next page of type portal (or some other identifyer) and then finding out that ones level
16:08 uschi otherwise i would have to adjust the constants for the entrylevel everytime the pages might be moved around
16:09 uschi do you understand what i mean, Ries?
16:09 uschi Ries, is it difficult to produce own page types?
16:09 Denyerec I think a kickstarter can make that for you pretty easily.
16:11 fredddd Denyerec thanks, can you tell me how to tell typo3 where to put it in the template file?
16:11 Denyerec Err
16:11 Denyerec I just used that TS in my main TS Setup template.
16:11 Denyerec where you put the main TS>
16:12 fredddd yeah but i should point typo3 out where this box actually is in the html file right?
16:12 Denyerec Oh yeah
16:12 Denyerec you'll need to mosify it to suit your site.
16:12 Denyerec that TS just inserts the search box into a TemplaVoila object path
16:13 fredddd i have a normal typo3 installation so what can i do then?
16:15 Denyerec Install TemplaVoila? ;)
16:15 Denyerec I'm sorry I'm not much good with Typo if it's not being used with TemplaVoila
16:15 Denyerec That's the only site building method I know
16:15 uschi set a marker
16:15 Denyerec SPeaking of which uschi - did you figure out your list problem ?
16:15 uschi change lib into temp
16:16 Denyerec I need to make a FCE which is a UL, that can have two classes of LI.
16:16 Denyerec No sub lists, though
16:16 uschi that is no problem
16:16 uschi one list is perfectly all right
16:16 uschi write a template with an ul and two li, each of those having the class
16:17 uschi map the ul Container for content elements and make it a section
16:18 uschi then map each of the li-s
16:18 uschi as CO outer
16:19 uschi or inner, cannot remember right now
16:19 uschi even sublists are not a problem
16:19 uschi it is only that you cannot have an SC as direct child of a SC
16:19 uschi Then the form crashes
16:20 fredddd uschi i changed lib into temp, but what name must the marker have? (a marker is e.g. ###SEARCH###. right?)
16:20 uschi yes, i am not good at normal markers
16:20 uschi i am using templavoila as well
16:22 uschi Denyerec, where is this project you are working on?
16:22 Denyerec I've not started yet
16:22 Denyerec I will write the markup for the list
16:22 Denyerec Oh, do you know if you can save a FCE out to disk
16:23 Denyerec so you don't have to do all the annoying re-mapping if you use it on another site?
16:24 fredddd how to get templavoila? when entering templavoila at ext mgr it says no match found
16:24 uschi no, unfortunately i do not know
16:24 uschi at import extensions?
16:24 fredddd yep, but i found it manually on typo3.org
16:25 uschi freddd, you do not necessarily need templavoila
16:25 fredddd yea but if no one knows how to do it without..its okay
16:25 uschi Ries?
16:26 uschi could you perhaps give me a hint about how to find out the level of the page?
16:39 Ries let me read back
16:42 dax77 hi @all
16:44 brosment Hi! Please anybody help to solve my problem. Then I use tt_content.stdWrap.dataWrap only my default language (English) content is wrapped but not localized content. What problem?
16:45 Denyerec uschi iiiiiiiiiii
16:46 uschi yes, Denyerec ?
16:46 Denyerec I create the UL as a section ?
16:46 uschi yes
16:46 dax77 hi uschi, hi Denyerec :)
16:46 uschi hi dax77 :))
16:46 Denyerec Did you follow a tutorial for this uschi?
16:46 uschi no
16:47 dax77 Denyerec: will you show me your crop code?
16:47 Denyerec Sure Dax
16:47 Denyerec 1 sec
16:47 Denyerec (pastecode coming up)
16:47 uschi Denyerec, the thing is this
16:47 brosment Please anybody help to solve my problem. Then I use tt_content.stdWrap.dataWrap only my default language (English) content is wrapped but not localized content. What problem?
16:48 uschi you want your authors to be able to choose between to types of li
16:48 Denyerec Yes
16:48 Denyerec If they add a TICK item or a CROSS item
16:48 uschi so for the ul choose mapping type SC
16:48 Denyerec dax -> http://wilcoding.xs4all.nl/Wilco/Pastecode/4277/showpaste.aspx
16:48 dax77 thx
16:48 Denyerec What is SC?
16:48 uschi if you have mapping type Container for Elements
16:48 Denyerec dax - I just nicked someone elses function for it, and then use the normal .crop in Typo3, and use this as a postuserFunc on the item
16:48 uschi store this once
16:49 uschi after that you will see a little checkbox
16:49 uschi make this container a section
16:49 dax77 Denyerec: does it work?
16:49 uschi check this
16:49 uschi box
16:49 Denyerec dax - http://www.noritsuwebkiosk.com
16:49 uschi that will make your CO an SC
16:49 Denyerec check the news page, see that it crops in some italic text, but doesn't break the page.
16:49 Denyerec Also: http://sozutux.dyndns.org/mmarket/
16:50 Denyerec See the frontpage news, I tested it on a bold italic list
16:50 Denyerec again, no problems
16:50 uschi than you map each of your two li-elements
16:50 Denyerec OK so I make the Container for Elements a section, what does being a section really do, thoug ?
16:51 uschi then your editors will see a <select> where they can choose between those two li-types
16:51 Denyerec Ahhh#
16:51 Denyerec right
16:52 uschi this way they wont forget two choose a class :)
16:52 Denyerec Indeed
16:52 Denyerec now...
16:52 Denyerec I ask one more thing
16:52 Denyerec what do I map as the BASE element ?
16:52 Denyerec the UL?
16:52 uschi i usually have a dummy-div #fce-wrapper
16:53 Denyerec Right
16:53 uschi and that is mapped outer so it will not be rendered in the frontend
16:53 Denyerec Thing is if I give the UL and ID I can only use it once on a page
16:53 Denyerec so I think I will have to put a non-semantic DIV inside the UL with the ID
16:53 Denyerec so I can map *that* instead
16:53 uschi you do not necessarily have to give it an id
16:53 uschi no
16:53 uschi wait
16:54 Denyerec You have to have an ID to map with TV though, right ?
16:54 uschi yes, in your case you can take the ul as root-element
16:54 uschi no, you do not have to have an id
16:55 uschi Denyerec, have you ever read Futuristic Template Building?
16:55 muh-die-kuh is there a gallery extension which allows fe users to comment pictures
16:55 Denyerec Sort of.
16:55 Denyerec I read enough to get a site built.
16:55 Denyerec Then stopped :)
16:56 uschi you can even map a range of elements
16:56 brosment Please anybody help to solve my problem. Then I use tt_content.stdWrap.dataWrap only my default language (English) content is wrapped but not localized content. What problem?
16:57 uschi hm, perhaps you have defined some language conditions and did not go back to [global], brosment?
16:57 Denyerec uschi I will re-read that section, thanks!
16:59 brosment I have no language conditions but what does mean "go back to [global]", uschi?
16:59 brosment I just set tt_content.stdWrap.dataWrap = |
17:00 uschi if you use conditions in your template setup than you have to go out of the context of these conditions with [global]
17:00 uschi be carefull with doing so, by the way, brosment
17:01 uschi you will loose the possibility to set links to each of your content-elements
17:01 brosment I don't understand clearly what should I do
17:01 uschi if you just have a datawrap = |
17:02 brosment I really want to remove links for content-elements
17:02 uschi you know links like this: http://some_domain.tld/file.html#mysection
17:02 brosment yes
17:03 uschi i did this as well, but used a div with the id instead
17:04 uschi ## statt <a id="c123"></a> ein DIV um Header und alles drumrum
17:04 uschi tt_content.stdWrap.dataWrap = <div id="c{field:uid}" class="contentSection">|</div>
17:04 uschi wb dax77_
17:04 dax77_ greetings from t-com :(
17:05 uschi but i do not have a clue why it does not work with your other languages
17:05 brosment Yes, I agree, It is good idea, but it doesn't work for my localized content, at all
17:05 uschi did they teach you a flying lesson, dax77_
17:06 dax77_ a flying lesson?
17:06 uschi works only in german, i suppose
17:06 uschi du bist rausgeflogen
17:06 uschi also hat dir die t-com eine Flugstunde verpasst
17:06 uschi back to english
17:07 uschi brosment, can you post your setup
17:07 brosment ok
17:07 uschi not here but at phpfi.com
17:08 Denyerec hey uschi - in the tutorial I see a Data Structure and a Template Selection dropdown
17:08 Denyerec with multiple options for both
17:08 Denyerec Yet all my DS/TO's always have one thing in them
17:08 uschi yes
17:09 Denyerec IE - If I create a page template it seems only able to have one mapping.
17:09 uschi because you did not make your ul a section
17:09 uschi that does the trick
17:09 Denyerec NOno, just in general.
17:09 Denyerec Say on a basic site I have a template file and I do some mappings
17:09 Denyerec now lets say I want to have the same template but with different mappings.
17:09 uschi you can have multiple to's for one ds, yes
17:10 Denyerec How do you create them ?
17:10 Denyerec Haha
17:10 uschi i do not know yet, Denyerec
17:10 Denyerec Ok I see a big button
17:10 Denyerec "CREATE NEW TO"
17:10 Denyerec Hahaha :)
17:10 uschi good, if one can read the screen
17:10 uschi the gui of tv is frightening
17:11 brosment uschi, look here http://www.brosment.com/fileadmin/setup.txt
17:11 uschi and confusing at times
17:13 uschi so you do have conditions
17:13 uschi tt_content.stdWrap.dataWrap =
17:13 uschi this is wrong
17:14 uschi you do not want to give it an empty value
17:15 uschi make this one tt_content.stdWrap.dataWrap = |
17:15 uschi and kill the line in the russian part
17:16 brosment I did it --- doesn't work
17:17 uschi dax77, can you have a look at brosments setup
17:17 dax77 I can, but what was the problem?
17:18 uschi this belongs into the page TSConfig section
17:18 Denyerec uschi I don't quite understand the difference between a TO and a DS
17:18 Denyerec Got any explaination? :/
17:18 uschi he tries to have tt_content.stdWrap.dataWrap changed, but it only works for the default language, not the localised versions
17:19 Denyerec It talks of TO's using the same DS, and DS's doing other things. And Ithink it'd be a lot easier to follow if I knew what the meant!
17:19 uschi the datastructure has all the fieldnames
17:19 uschi the to contains the mapping
17:19 dax77 Denyerec: DS: you know how to start a car ; TO: you know how to start a BMW
17:19 Denyerec ...
17:19 uschi the to is stored as a serialized array in table ???
17:20 Denyerec Mmm
17:20 Denyerec Right
17:20 Denyerec so if I have a DS with a load of fieldnames and types
17:20 uschi the information which field_something is mapped to which element is stored in the to
17:20 Denyerec I can have a TOwith different mappings *for those fields*
17:20 Denyerec but there will only be the same fields available.
17:20 uschi yes, right you are
17:20 uschi got it :) good boy
17:20 dax77 :)
17:20 Denyerec OK so I could have a totally different template HTML file, and just map those data fields to the new DIVs
17:21 dax77 correct
17:21 uschi exactly
17:21 Denyerec I always insert my CSS from Typoscript
17:21 dax77 thats what I was trying to tell you with the car example ;)
17:21 Denyerec shoudl I use TV to tick the header part to include?
17:21 Denyerec cos I don't think the TS includeCSS includes a media descriptor.
17:21 uschi there is only one problem
17:22 uschi tv kills conditional comments for IE
17:22 Denyerec hmm.
17:22 Denyerec I notice that Typo3 doesn't include ANY media selectors
17:22 Denyerec that's *VERY* bad
17:22 uschi true, if this is so
17:22 Ries uschi: sorry, but I was to occupied to watch the channel... to many messages for me to read
17:23 Denyerec I don't know if theres a way to enable it
17:23 Denyerec but if not, that's a really big problem
17:23 uschi no prob, Ries
17:23 Denyerec as Handheld and print sheets will be.... bad.
17:23 brosment dax77, do you have any ideas about my problem with tt_content.stdWrap.dataWrap
17:23 Ries uschi: when I am back may be you can explain in private... then I might understand
17:23 Denyerec dataWrap or dateWrap ?
17:23 Ries But it's hard right now to filter out the other messages
17:24 dax77 brosment: first I need to know what your problem is ;)
17:24 uschi shall the two of us go to a private little chamber, Ries ;-)
17:24 uschi i love this idea
17:25 uschi dax77, his problem is, that the setting for tt_content.stdWrap.dataWrap only works for his default language
17:25 uschi but not for the localised versions
17:26 dax77 well, an easy approach could be to set the config in a language condition
17:26 uschi this is what he tried
17:26 uschi http://www.brosment.com/fileadmin/setup.txt
17:26 uschi look here
17:28 dax77 brosment: you have different settings:
17:28 dax77 tt_content.stdWrap.dataWrap =
17:28 dax77 tt_content.stdWrap.dataWrap = |
17:28 brosment ye
17:28 dax77 what language is working?
17:28 brosment but I fixed this and dont wor anyway
17:28 brosment default is workong
17:29 brosment look it here http://www.brosment.com/ru/about_project/
17:29 brosment change in english and make difference
17:31 Denyerec So if the DS is the HTML File and the Fields, and the TS is the mapping of those fields.
17:33 uschi if you have a look at the XML of your DS, you will perhaps understand
17:33 uschi yes, this is right, Denyerec
17:34 uschi the to needs the html-file, the DS does not
17:34 Denyerec Right
17:35 uschi so go to your phpmyadmin
17:35 Denyerec I think I'm getting confused as I'm seeing in the example 2 different layouts
17:35 uschi there are two tables
17:35 Denyerec which is not possible if you use TS to include your CSS
17:35 Denyerec so I am thinking invcluding the CSS via the TSsetup is not the best way
17:35 uschi tx_templavoila_datastructure and tx_templavoila_tmplobj
17:35 Denyerec and it is better to use TV to include it from the HTML.
17:35 uschi might be
17:36 uschi in the second table, there is a column templatemapping
17:36 uschi i once unserialised one of those fields, to see what is really in there
17:45 brosment ucshi, I see that content in "All languages" mode wrapped correctly too (even on localized pages). But only localized content doesn't wrapped. I use TYPO3 4.1RC1. May be it is bug.
17:46 uschi i have not entered localised content yet
17:48 MidasWS Are there any advantages with typo3 as oppose to joomla ?
17:50 Denyerec uschi I'm having a bad time with this.
17:50 uschi poor Denyerec :-(
17:51 Denyerec MidasWS - Joomla is pretty poor in comparison. You can do a LOT with Typo3 once you know what you're doing
17:51 uschi what goes wrong
17:51 Denyerec Mambo / Joomla did nothing but piss me off
17:51 Denyerec ok uschi - let me link you to the FCE markup
17:51 uschi the forthcoming version of JOOMLA shall be quite good, as i am informed
17:51 Denyerec Yeah?
17:51 uschi ok
17:51 Denyerec Better than Typo3? :)
17:51 uschi different
17:52 Denyerec The impression I got with Mambo and Joomla was that it was OK if you wanted to build a site "their way" and not try to do anything too crazy.
17:52 Denyerec The impression I get with Typo3 is "Anything goes"
17:53 uschi can you read my query, Denyerec
17:53 Denyerec yes
17:53 Denyerec you can read mine ?
17:53 MidasWS Denyerec. Are there, as with Joomla, a lot of free components and modules available ?
17:53 Denyerec Bajillions
17:53 Denyerec (That's lots)
17:55 MidasWS thanks
17:57 brosment uschi, is it possible problem with config.sys_language_mode = content_fallback???
17:57 uschi i cannot tell you brosment
17:58 uschi perhaps i a week or so :)
19:20 koomi schwing.
19:41 Dejavu only english :( - my english isn't the best . . .
19:53 muh-die-kuh hmpf
19:54 Dejavu ah ein deutscher ;)
19:54 muh-die-kuh im using tv for the first time, everything works fine, besides two "<li>", about which i dont know where they come from Oo... is there a way to find this out?
19:54 muh-die-kuh Dejavu: jap
19:58 Dejavu muh-die-kuh kennst du dich etwas mit ts aus?
20:00 muh-die-kuh Dejavu: naja, ein wenig... btw, achte aufs topic
20:00 muh-die-kuh Dejavu: english only ;-)
20:00 Dejavu i know . . .
20:26 Rocketjock Hello all
22:10 netrunner Hi! I have added two sites and added a domain record to each. but the frontend shows me the site listed first for both domains. what could I have missed?
22:12 netrunner both use the same directory in the filesystem. as far as I understood the backend should make the distinction.
22:26 Denyerec hey uschi I'm back
22:26 Denyerec Little later than I expected, but hey
22:26 uschi found my note
22:26 uschi ?
22:26 Denyerec Yeah, just about to try it once i update my moon photo
22:26 uschi ok
22:27 uschi Denyerec i had a look at your searchform code
22:27 uschi is there any reason to use method="post"?
22:27 uschi users cannot bookmark search-results then
22:28 uschi Denyerec?
22:28 Denyerec Well
22:28 Denyerec theyused POST in the code I hijacked.
22:28 Denyerec So....
22:28 Denyerec ....thats what I used
22:28 Denyerec ;)
22:28 uschi ah, i see
22:29 Denyerec I suppose you could swap it for GET
22:29 Denyerec but would index_search know it was there?
22:29 uschi i hope so
22:29 uschi let us ask Ries, when he is back
22:31 Denyerec and he will say
22:31 Denyerec "I never use indexed_search anyway"
22:32 uschi yeah, reading the dev-group i can imagine why
22:32 uschi using %searchword% for fulltext search is not the most performant way to do it
22:33 Denyerec Heh#
22:33 uschi and looking at the results you get at typo3.org --- hmmmm
22:33 uschi i have my doubts as well
22:34 Ries what's up?
22:34 uschi talking about search
22:35 uschi and indexed search
22:35 uschi i had a look at Denyerec's search form. it uses post, and i do not like that, because users cannot bookmark results
22:36 Denyerec if Indexed Search sucks so much
22:36 Denyerec what is one to use instead?
22:36 uschi and i wonder if it really gives decent results, looking at typo3.org
22:36 uschi dmitry said he would like to develop a new search extension, but then he needs sponsoring for that
22:37 uschi well, Ries has this google thingy
22:37 uschi i mean, the university site is really large, some 2000 to 3000 pages
22:39 Ries uschi: My wifes website is currently almost 2000 pages ;)
22:40 Ries I talked about that aswell... I think mnogosearch would do the job really well
22:40 uschi right, but you have had a reason not to use indexed_search
22:40 Ries uschi: However you should beable to change the form from method='post' to method='get'
22:40 uschi ok, that is at least something :)
22:40 Ries uschi: Performance sucks with indexed search
22:40 uschi i can imagine
22:40 uschi even i can
22:41 uschi and somehow i do find that at least at typo3.org results are somehow odd
22:56 kraftb hello ...
22:57 uschi Denyerec did i ever tell you that i hate the internet explorer?
22:57 uschi hello kraftb :)
22:57 Denyerec Heh
22:57 kraftb hi boonkerz ... hi uschi .... hi denyrec ... hi ries ...
22:57 Denyerec You haven't, but I could have guessed
22:57 Denyerec any developer hates it.
22:57 kraftb sory if i forgot one of you :)
22:57 Boonkerz hi kraftb
22:57 kraftb i implement the shop search right now
22:57 kraftb and i got a genious idea
22:57 uschi we forgive everything tonight, kraftb :)
22:58 Boonkerz kraftb, wow :)
22:58 kraftb set the fieldname prefix to '' .... set the kb-shop table prefix to '' in class.tx_kbshop_config.php ...
22:58 kraftb and you can create fe_users using kb_shop :)
22:58 uschi hey Boonkerz, you are alife
22:58 kraftb and list fe_users ... etc :)
22:58 uschi is there anything kb_shop cannot do?
22:58 kraftb i guess cooking coffee ...
22:58 Boonkerz yes coffee
22:59 kraftb but i am going to implement a configuration which will also be able to cook coffee
22:59 uschi well that is a feature request then :)
22:59 kraftb wanna see something nice
22:59 kraftb just ... by-the-side work of mine
22:59 uschi right, you could do it via lon protocol
22:59 kraftb you know tools like music-maker ?
22:59 uschi no
22:59 kraftb MAGIX music maker
22:59 kraftb well ... something like cubase ?
22:59 uschi yes
23:00 kraftb or those old fashinoed trackers you got on an amiga
23:00 Boonkerz yes
23:00 Boonkerz i know what you mean
23:00 kraftb http://think-open.org/kraftb/kmusic/index.php?id=25&no_cache=1&tx_kbshop_pi1[v]=1&cHash=7f30ef3068
23:00 kraftb :)
23:00 kraftb but currently it can't play :(
23:00 kraftb mix
23:01 uschi i have to show this to my flatmate
23:01 kraftb i do not know how i shall perform this task really ... i mean if you just add the waves of the 4 channels you will get noises ... cause they will overamplify
23:02 kraftb i mean if i add 5 channels ... and each of them is at 1 ... they will add up to 5 which is below the allowed maximal amplitude of 1 for a wave file
23:02 kraftb so they will "übersteuern"
23:02 Boonkerz overload
23:02 Boonkerz :)
23:02 kraftb i would have to build the average ... but of how many samples ... sometimes there are just 3 played ... sometimes 5 sometimes 10 ...
23:03 kraftb i would have to divide the sum by the maximum number of equally played samples
23:03 kraftb but if you have many samples at a time the whole song will become silent
23:03 uschi my flatmate says that is not that easy
23:03 kraftb do i have to do soemthing like dynamic averaging ?
23:03 kraftb or can he supply me with some links ?
23:04 uschi because loud + loud != double loud
23:04 uschi i will ask, wait
23:05 kraftb i know
23:06 kraftb ah ... logarythmic addition ?
23:06 uschi he says you should have a look into wikipedia
23:06 Boonkerz which customer it will use :D
23:06 uschi but in principal dynamic averaging is right
23:06 kraftb i guess i have to logarythmize ln(x) the audio value ...
23:06 kraftb add the logarythms ... and then do an e^x again
23:06 uschi yes, he says
23:07 kraftb ok ... and afterwards a normalization ...
23:07 kraftb (ln(ch_1)+ln(ch_2)+ln(ch_3))/ln(3)
23:07 uschi peak or loudness, i shall ask you
23:07 kraftb if 1 is = full loud
23:09 uschi i do not understand what the two of you are talking about, which makes it hard to translate into english :)
23:09 kraftb well ... it's all about waves :)
23:09 kraftb did someone say on #physics :)
23:09 kraftb hehe
23:10 kraftb i did some DSP using a simple c program
23:10 kraftb a lowpass or highpass IIR filter is just about 5 lines of code
23:10 uschi and DCP means, as i am informed, Digital Sound Processing
23:10 kraftb or fourier transform using php :)
23:10 kraftb DSP = digital signal processing
23:10 uschi ah
23:11 kraftb i^
23:11 kraftb :)
23:12 kraftb discrete signals it is all about .... a "real" number can have any value ... if you say two real numbers theres always a value between them ... thats "stetig" ... but digital signals are "discrete" .... each value can be one of many possiblities ... for example for a 16bit wave signal you have 65536 (2^16bit) possibilities the value can have
23:12 brosment hi uschi, I solve my problem with tt_content.stdWrap.dataWrap with localized content. Just for localized content should use tt_content.stdWrap.prepend = TEXT and tt_content.stdWrap.prepend.dataWrap
23:12 uschi ah, thx brosment
23:13 kraftb and like there are pixels on an image there are single audio "pixels" in a wav-file ... (each having a value of -32768 to 32767) ... and they are arranged each after another as a 1d signal ...
23:13 kraftb 2d
23:13 kraftb and if they get played in the correct order they create an audio wave
23:13 kraftb if it get's played on a speaker of course :)
23:15 uschi and what you have to do now, is to find the jpeg formula, or what
23:16 Denyerec kraftb
23:16 Denyerec you could just add the signals and then normalise it
23:16 Denyerec I came in late sorry
23:19 Ries kraftb: You need to take 24 bits or 32 bits, then add teh signals.. Normally you would see that you don't get much digital distorsion
23:21 Ries kraftb: You need to add (top of my head) 1bit of digital noice to reduce teh overall noice level when you reduce from 24/24 bit to 16 bit
23:21 Ries kraftb: sounds odd, but it is use the give the music more clarity....
23:21 Ries kraftb: If you use the 5 line flter code, then I would assume you use a moving average filter? If so they kinda suck for music
23:21 Denyerec uschi you GENIUS
23:22 uschi it does work then?
23:22 Denyerec yeah
23:22 uschi great, but give credits to kraftb
23:23 uschi the trick with the double mapping is taken from the wiki example
23:24 uschi kraftb, do you know why typo3 does not allow <section>1</section> in two directly nested COs?
23:25 Denyerec The downside uschi is the interface for the end user is pretty crpq
23:25 Denyerec *crap
23:25 uschi there would not be much difference with another solution
23:25 Denyerec and if I make a plaintext input, it's not easy for the user to insert a link into a list ite,
23:25 Denyerec *item
23:25 Denyerec Yeah I know :(
23:26 uschi if the user shall be able to insert a link, you need to input-fields
23:26 uschi one plain input field for the text and a linkfield for the link
23:26 uschi than your li is a normal CO outer
23:27 uschi ah shit, i will allways be twisted around with this inner and outer stuf
23:27 uschi f
23:28 uschi you have to map the li as CO outer
23:28 uschi then the <a> as el, inner
23:29 uschi and then the href-attribute as Attribute with editing type = link field
23:30 los-lucas hi
23:31 los-lucas do you know why wouldn $conf be empty in function main($content,$conf) for my plugin when I'm not logged into the BE?
23:37 los-lucas anyone here?
23:38 uschi yes, some of us are still awake
23:38 uschi but i cannot give an answer to your question
23:40 Ries los-lucas: that should never happen...
23:40 los-lucas uschi: it got this problem with irFAQ
23:41 uschi i do not even know hwat that is, los-lucas
23:41 los-lucas Ries: I can't even print_r($_GET) from inside this extension's pi php - it returns empty string when I'm logged out
23:41 los-lucas it looks as if irFAQ was modifying some global variables when user is logged out of the BE
23:43 los-lucas it's really strange...
23:47 los-lucas yeah, that's the case. when I'm logged out $GLOBALS is empty
23:47 los-lucas what the hell...
23:47 Ries los-lucas: You are not suppose to use $_GET
23:48 Ries los-lucas: if you need to get post/get vars you need to use $this -> pivars
23:48 los-lucas Ries: it doesn't matter. the whole $GLOBALS is empty when I'm logged out
23:48 Ries los-lucas: What might happen is that you designed a cached version of your extension....
23:48 Ries los-lucas: then your extension is not called at all by typo3, and typo3 uses the cached output
23:49 los-lucas Ries: I didn't design it. it's this one: http://typo3.org/extensions/repository/view/irfaq/0.4.14/
23:52 uschi los-lucas, i am just seeing your context filter
23:52 uschi what kind of extension is that?
23:54 los-lucas Modern FAQ extension
23:55 uschi i mean kurse at your site
23:58 los-lucas Ries: there's definitely something wrong with cashing here...
23:59 los-lucas Ries: I go to BE, "clear all cache", reload the page once in a different browser window (another session) and print_r($this->piVars); gives me some values
23:59 los-lucas then I reload the same page again
23:59 los-lucas and it print_r($this->piVars); produces empty results this time

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