| 00:00 |
los-lucas |
and stays like that until I hit "clear all cache link again" |
| 00:00 |
los-lucas |
and stays like that until I hit "clear all cache" link again |
| 00:02 |
Ries |
los-lucas: sounds like a cached extension |
| 00:03 |
los-lucas |
Ries: how do I disable it? |
| 00:05 |
los-lucas |
I mean, how do I disable extension caching |
| 00:06 |
Ries |
los-lucas: why would you like that? |
| 00:08 |
los-lucas |
Ries: because it screws everything I want to do with it |
| 00:08 |
los-lucas |
if I can't get to $this->piVars half of my functionallity gets lost |
| 00:12 |
los-lucas |
I won't make any sense of it tonight |
| 00:12 |
los-lucas |
too tired |
| 00:12 |
los-lucas |
gotta go to bed |
| 00:12 |
los-lucas |
so tired of working with Typo3 |
| 00:13 |
uschi |
so am i los-lucas |
| 00:13 |
los-lucas |
I was hoping for much more admin-friendly system, when started working with T3 |
| 00:13 |
uschi |
there are days when you feel great working with it, and others |
| 00:13 |
uschi |
it is, but it takes an enormous amount of time |
| 00:13 |
uschi |
to learn how it works |
| 00:13 |
Ries |
los-lucas: check ext_tables.php where the plugin is created |
| 00:14 |
los-lucas |
uschi: websites are not rocket science. T3 overcomplicates the issue :-/ |
| 00:14 |
los-lucas |
Ries: thx |
| 00:14 |
uschi |
i disagree |
| 00:14 |
uschi |
good websites are rocket science, because they involve thinking |
| 00:15 |
los-lucas |
uschi: T3's got some serious architectural issues |
| 00:15 |
los-lucas |
take TypoScript for example |
| 00:15 |
uschi |
it is a way of passing variables to php-functions |
| 00:15 |
los-lucas |
I think it's a very powerful tool, no doubt about it |
| 00:16 |
uschi |
there are lots of possibilities, so if you want to have the power .... |
| 00:16 |
Ries |
los-lucas: I don't think that T3 is overcomplicated in that sence, they have good reasons and even I sometimes fall into that hole |
| 00:16 |
uschi |
at least you can do things |
| 00:17 |
Ries |
los-lucas: find a line that looks like this : t3lib_extMgm::addPItoST43($_EXTKEY,'pi2/class.tx_gmshopb2b_pi2.php','_pi2','list_type',0); |
| 00:17 |
Ries |
The 0 on the end is properly on that extension an 1 |
| 00:17 |
uschi |
Ries, by the way, is there a ts way of calculating the level? |
| 00:17 |
los-lucas |
uschi: yes, it is. but by T3 I don't mean the base CMS system. I mean the CMS + the extension base. and most extensions use TS in ways that give me creeps |
| 00:17 |
Ries |
los-lucas: sorry, the file you need to open is ext_localconf.php |
| 00:18 |
uschi |
hm |
| 00:18 |
Ries |
uschi: I think my question of this morning was: Where do you need the level? |
| 00:18 |
uschi |
right |
| 00:18 |
uschi |
I need the level for my 'mainmenu' |
| 00:18 |
uschi |
i have loads of them on different entrylevels |
| 00:19 |
los-lucas |
uschi: it violates the most basic rule of software design - separation of logic and layout |
| 00:19 |
uschi |
this is why i would like to calculate the entry level, for the mainmenu, the submenu and the breadcrumbs |
| 00:19 |
los-lucas |
Ries: ok |
| 00:20 |
uschi |
if i put it into a constant and then move round a 'portal' a level up or down, i will always have to adapt the constants |
| 00:20 |
Ries |
uschi: so on 'some' level you only need to show the menu below that level' |
| 00:20 |
uschi |
but i do now the 'rootpage' of the portal |
| 00:20 |
Ries |
? |
| 00:20 |
uschi |
right |
| 00:20 |
Ries |
uschi: look for entrylevel 0 in HMENU |
| 00:21 |
uschi |
yes but 0 is the root of the website |
| 00:21 |
uschi |
this is not it |
| 00:21 |
uschi |
certain pages have a constant portal_id |
| 00:21 |
los-lucas |
Ries: I found t3lib_extMgm::addPItoST43($_EXTKEY,'pi1/class.tx_irfaq_pi1.php','_pi1','list_type',0); |
| 00:22 |
uschi |
containing the uid of where the menu has to start |
| 00:22 |
los-lucas |
(zero at the end0 |
| 00:22 |
uschi |
so i have to calculate the value from there |
| 00:22 |
uschi |
i have something like 60 portals |
| 00:23 |
Ries |
uschi: 0 is not of the current root (or use -1 or 1 or something like that.. bottom line is that t3 and hmenu can generate a menu from the current level down |
| 00:23 |
Ries |
los-lucas: was it already 0 or did you change it to 0? |
| 00:23 |
los-lucas |
Ries: it was already 0 |
| 00:23 |
uschi |
yes but then i would have to know the level |
| 00:23 |
uschi |
which i cannot know because portals start on different levels |
| 00:24 |
Ries |
los-lucas: Hmmm check the main, and see for a INT_..... something |
| 00:24 |
uschi |
do you understand what i mean, Ries? |
| 00:24 |
Ries |
uschi: did you try entryLevel=-1 ? |
| 00:25 |
Denyerec |
Ok so I have mapped an awkward FCE in one site |
| 00:25 |
Denyerec |
how do I easily transfer that to another site? |
| 00:25 |
los-lucas |
Ries: what do you mean by the main? |
| 00:25 |
uschi |
it is not what i need, Ries |
| 00:26 |
uschi |
the tree looks like this |
| 00:26 |
uschi |
university |
| 00:26 |
uschi |
language center |
| 00:26 |
uschi |
german as a foreign language |
| 00:26 |
uschi |
language center and german each have there own mainmenu |
| 00:27 |
los-lucas |
have a good night, guys |
| 00:27 |
uschi |
night los-lucas |
| 00:27 |
los-lucas |
I can't think anymore |
| 00:27 |
uschi |
neither can i |
| 00:27 |
uschi |
Ries, and that can go even further down |
| 00:28 |
uschi |
so i need to know on which level language center or german is |
| 00:28 |
uschi |
i know the uid of the portal's homepage |
| 00:28 |
uschi |
and somehow i have to find out about the entrylevel on this basis |
| 00:31 |
uschi |
i do not want that there is too much work for admins when they setup a new portal |
| 00:33 |
uschi |
and -1 means the outermost level, which is: i have university/something/else/and/the/other/in/breadcrumbs |
| 00:33 |
uschi |
this is what i do not want |
| 00:33 |
uschi |
for the mainmenu a directory would do |
| 00:33 |
uschi |
but for the breadcrumbs not |
| 00:38 |
uschi |
any idea Ries |
| 00:42 |
uschi |
at least one of us is happy :9 |
| 00:43 |
uschi |
what page are you working on, Denyerec, by the way? |
| 00:47 |
uschi |
Ries, or can I simply set special.value even for special=rootline? |
| 00:47 |
Denyerec |
A local one |
| 00:47 |
Denyerec |
well |
| 00:47 |
uschi |
what local one? |
| 00:48 |
Denyerec |
http://steelworks.systemcms.com |
| 00:48 |
uschi |
hm, then this would be fairly easy |
| 00:48 |
uschi |
ah, the page :)) |
| 00:48 |
Denyerec |
Just a quick throw-together |
| 00:48 |
Denyerec |
but the tickbox FCE isn't on there yet |
| 00:49 |
Denyerec |
I was wondering if it's possible to bundle up an FCE to move it from one site to another without having to remap it |
| 00:50 |
uschi |
this would be great |
| 00:50 |
uschi |
then we could exchange stuff |
| 00:50 |
uschi |
and reuse own stuff |
| 00:51 |
uschi |
somehow it should be possible by exporting it to t3d, don't you think so? |
| 00:52 |
uschi |
they should have a phone number on their contact page |
| 00:53 |
uschi |
is it your design as well, Denyerec ? |
| 00:53 |
Denyerec |
"design" |
| 00:54 |
uschi |
you do not like it? |
| 00:56 |
Denyerec |
Well it's not much of a design |
| 00:56 |
Denyerec |
But yeah, I slapped it together |
| 00:57 |
uschi |
i would do two things |
| 00:58 |
uschi |
the hover of the menu: do not make it bold but in invert it |
| 00:58 |
uschi |
and perhaps the grey of the top a bit lighter |
| 00:59 |
uschi |
but then the white text might not have enough contrast |
| 01:01 |
Denyerec |
Oh, yeah if I'd wanted to design it I would have |
| 01:01 |
Denyerec |
but I wasn't being paid enough to spend more than 5 minutes in photoshop |
| 01:01 |
Denyerec |
sooooooooooo thats what they get :) |
| 01:01 |
uschi |
just flickering through the portfolio |
| 01:02 |
Denyerec |
the sozu one ? |
| 01:02 |
Denyerec |
Christ... |
| 01:02 |
uschi |
yes |
| 01:02 |
Denyerec |
that's old :/ |
| 01:02 |
Denyerec |
I've not updated it in over a year |
| 01:02 |
uschi |
that happens to everybody |
| 01:02 |
Denyerec |
I intend to move the site to Typo3 |
| 01:02 |
Denyerec |
Cos I'm rather liking it. (Typo) |
| 01:02 |
uschi |
you do not have the time to style your own website *g* |
| 01:02 |
Ries |
uschi: I need to do something like that |
| 01:02 |
Denyerec |
Heh yeah |
| 01:03 |
Ries |
I will let you know how I solved it, ok? |
| 01:03 |
uschi |
ok, |
| 01:03 |
Denyerec |
oh and uschi - it's 100% client content, let them lose their own business ;) |
| 01:03 |
uschi |
Ries, you read about my idea? |
| 01:03 |
Denyerec |
(Again, they're not paying me to advise them) |
| 01:03 |
Denyerec |
Idea?!? |
| 01:03 |
Denyerec |
Let me in let me in! |
| 01:03 |
Ries |
uschi: How do you know where your portal starts? |
| 01:03 |
uschi |
i mean, even if you have special = rootline |
| 01:03 |
uschi |
my idea is: either invent a special page type |
| 01:04 |
uschi |
or use the layout-field |
| 01:04 |
uschi |
from where ever you are, look for the next page up which can be identified as portal (leveluid:something slide) |
| 01:05 |
uschi |
or have that in the constants (less elegant) |
| 01:06 |
uschi |
if the value-property is interpreted in special = rootline as well, i would be the winner |
| 01:07 |
Ries |
uschi: I send you a pm.. |
| 01:07 |
Ries |
that site will have like 600 BE users each with there own 'portal' |
| 01:07 |
Ries |
Now I need to show on the right side a menu with ONLY the menu entries for his portal. |
| 01:07 |
Ries |
That is what you want, right? |
| 01:08 |
uschi |
exactly :) |
| 01:08 |
uschi |
and the rootline starting there |
| 01:08 |
Ries |
Ok... |
| 01:08 |
Ries |
let me do the mapping and let me try |
| 01:09 |
Denyerec |
I don't quite know what you're trying to do :( |
| 01:09 |
uschi |
well, i could try to explain it to you |
| 01:10 |
Denyerec |
But it would take hours? |
| 01:10 |
uschi |
no, i do not think so |
| 01:10 |
uschi |
i am trying to develop a page for our university |
| 01:11 |
uschi |
there i am again |
| 01:12 |
uschi |
Denyerec, still there? |
| 01:42 |
Denyerec |
hmm |
| 01:42 |
Denyerec |
For some reason uschi - titles do not render on my FCE |
| 01:43 |
Denyerec |
if I give the FCE a header, it doesn't show up. |
| 01:44 |
Denyerec |
http://steelworks.systemcms.com/index.php?id=5 |
| 01:44 |
Denyerec |
On that site, above the list with the tick and cross... |
| 01:44 |
Denyerec |
there should be a heading that says "Products Manufactured" |
| 01:44 |
Denyerec |
but it does not appear :( |
| 01:57 |
Denyerec |
any suggestions ? |
| 01:58 |
Denyerec |
http://steelworks.systemcms.com/index.php?id=10 |
| 01:58 |
Denyerec |
No heading comes out of the element |
| 02:10 |
jsfan |
hi everyone :D |
| 02:20 |
Denyerec |
hey jsfan |
| 02:20 |
Denyerec |
I still haven't made the tt_news image thing. |
| 02:20 |
Denyerec |
Got stuck on a different problem instead. |
| 02:20 |
jsfan |
Denyerec, fixed your code at least? |
| 02:20 |
Denyerec |
Yeah |
| 02:20 |
Denyerec |
that's all working now :) |
| 02:20 |
jsfan |
good. what was the problem |
| 02:20 |
jsfan |
good. what was the problem? |
| 02:20 |
Denyerec |
Now I have a TV FCE that doesn' thave a header... |
| 02:21 |
Denyerec |
Oh, I got code from elsewhere that worked |
| 02:21 |
Denyerec |
:) |
| 02:21 |
jsfan |
;) |
| 02:21 |
Denyerec |
The other code was broken |
| 02:21 |
jsfan |
why does your FCE not have a header? |
| 02:21 |
Denyerec |
I don't know! |
| 02:21 |
Denyerec |
When I create it and fill ou tthe header field |
| 02:21 |
Denyerec |
it doesn't render on the frontpate |
| 02:22 |
Denyerec |
*frontpage |
| 02:22 |
Denyerec |
So I wonder if the header field is ever rendered for FCEs |
| 02:22 |
Denyerec |
and you know I don't think it is. |
| 02:22 |
Denyerec |
I think you have to map one is as editing type Header Field if you want one. |
| 02:23 |
Denyerec |
and then the word "Header" appears twice in the editing form, which is not good for retard users. |
| 02:30 |
jsfan |
yes, i've seen this before :( |
| 02:30 |
jsfan |
i never figured this one out, either :( |
| 02:31 |
Denyerec |
Looks like you have to map one yourself |
| 02:31 |
Denyerec |
and just confuse your users :( |
| 02:31 |
Denyerec |
i notice in normal content some TS processes it |
| 02:32 |
Denyerec |
if you examine the output in the admin panel you see some stuff regarding normal headers |
| 02:43 |
Ries |
uschi: back, I had a client on the phone... cool thing with him he pays me while talking :) |
| 02:44 |
Denyerec |
Ries do you know why FCE's don't render their headers? |
| 03:08 |
Ries |
Denyerec: actually not... I always add them in |
| 03:15 |
Ries |
uschi: ? |
| 03:15 |
Ries |
Denyerec: I think it's possible to get the headerfield and render it where you like |
| 03:22 |
Ries |
Denyerec: I think I foudn what uschi wanted, but I am not sure if here sub-portals are all at the same level |
| 05:19 |
FloLeBlanc |
hi all |
| 05:32 |
d|g |
hi all =) |
| 05:33 |
FloLeBlanc |
hi d|g |
| 05:33 |
d|g |
FloLeBlanc hi =) |
| 05:36 |
FloLeBlanc |
does anyone know how to make the required fields in sr_feuser_register bold instead of marking them with an * ? |
| 06:39 |
FloLeBlanc |
nvm |
| 07:18 |
zatmania |
hi all |
| 07:21 |
Jigal |
hi all |
| 07:24 |
zatmania |
hi Jigal |
| 07:25 |
FloLeBlanc |
hi zat, hi Jigal |
| 07:25 |
zatmania |
hi FloLeBlanc |
| 07:26 |
zatmania |
a new book is out for typo : mastering typoscript |
| 07:28 |
tobi |
yes from PacktPub ... they asked to put a sample chapter on typo3wizard |
| 07:28 |
tobi |
btw: good morning #typo3! |
| 07:30 |
zatmania |
hi tobi |
| 07:31 |
zatmania |
typo3wizard is your site tobi , no ? |
| 07:31 |
tobi |
yes, i and a friend are running it |
| 07:32 |
zatmania |
this site help me a lot with sinppets ;) |
| 07:32 |
tobi |
nice to hear, thats why it was published :) |
| 07:32 |
zatmania |
hehe |
| 07:33 |
zatmania |
yes but it's good to hear some feedback i think |
| 07:33 |
zatmania |
i begin to develop mine on typo of course ;) |
| 07:37 |
FloLeBlanc |
good morning tobi |
| 07:38 |
FloLeBlanc |
did anyone ever get sr_feuser_register to have the user confirm a change of his email? |
| 09:04 |
Denyerec |
RA RA RA |
| 09:04 |
Denyerec |
Any reason why my FCE's don't render the Header I'm giving them ? |
| 09:40 |
rocking |
hi |
| 09:40 |
rocking |
i was going through typo3 DAM and was wondering how typo3 will behave where there are around 10-20k images uploading and downloading every day |
| 09:41 |
tofirius |
hi all |
| 09:57 |
leeotzu |
Any ideas how to use the hooks available in sr_fuser_register |
| 09:58 |
leeotzu |
Working example will be great :) |
| 09:58 |
zatmania |
look at the code, best way to understand how it works, i have to do the same with tt_news |
| 10:00 |
leeotzu |
zatmania, I want to fire certain code just after the record is saved through sr_feuser_register |
| 10:07 |
tofirius |
has anyone set up a workflow for adding news items? |
| 10:12 |
Denyerec |
No but if anyone succeeds let me know! |
| 10:42 |
Denyerec |
I can control what level header the default CE headers come out as |
| 10:42 |
Denyerec |
<h1>.... etc |
| 10:42 |
Denyerec |
but if I create an FCE, it's locked in. |
| 10:43 |
Telis |
Hello, I have a question regarding the fileadmin and its relation to the uploads folder. Is it possible to make typo3 link to a file inside fileadmin instead of copying the same file to the uploads folder? |
| 10:44 |
Denyerec |
you can alter where the uploads folder goes. |
| 10:44 |
Denyerec |
Which might be an easier solution |
| 10:44 |
Denyerec |
It's in the install tool, before you ask |
| 10:44 |
Denyerec |
:) |
| 10:44 |
Telis |
but will it still create copys of my uploaded files? |
| 10:45 |
Telis |
The thing with fileadmin is that the files get categorized |
| 10:45 |
rocking |
how much scalalbe typo3 is |
| 10:45 |
rocking |
i am thinking of building a site with typo3 where there will be upload and download of 10-20 k images every day |
| 10:45 |
Telis |
in the uploads folder it's total chaos :) |
| 10:45 |
rocking |
is typo3 scalable? |
| 10:52 |
Telis |
The reason I'm asking is that working on a site hosting a huge number of in game footage from various games (50 - 100MB each) and with the duplicated files the overall size of the site is unecessary large. |
| 10:52 |
rocking |
is typo3 scalable when the site has uploads and downloads of 10k images every day? |
| 10:53 |
rocking |
i am googling from long time, but did not find anything |
| 11:01 |
Jigal |
scalability depends not only on the CMS you're using. The flexibility of TYPO3 comes at a cost: complex configuration can consume a considerable amount of RAM. |
| 11:01 |
Jigal |
With memory being pretty cheap these days that isn't a real problem. |
| 11:01 |
rocking |
but i am looking at scalability from technology point of viw |
| 11:02 |
rocking |
my application has to scale |
| 11:02 |
rocking |
i am just wondering how diff or easy it is to do dev. in typo3 |
| 11:02 |
Jigal |
Use dedicated database servers, use multiple webservers behind a load balancer and you create an environment that can handle a lot of visitors... |
| 11:03 |
rocking |
yes, i will do that defnitl,ey. but what abt custom development in typo3? |
| 11:04 |
Jigal |
rocking: you can build your own "extensions" to influence pretty much everything inside TYPO3 |
| 11:04 |
rocking |
does it need a big learning curve? |
| 11:05 |
rocking |
i am also wondering are there any production websites on typo3 which has aroudn 25k users |
| 11:06 |
Jigal |
yes, the learning curve is pretty difficult; not everything is easy to find in the documentation, but with the help of this channel, the mailing list, forums, looking at code of dozens of existing extensions you'll get there :-) |
| 11:06 |
rocking |
ok |
| 11:07 |
Jigal |
the amount of users doesn't impress a CMS like TYPO3 very much; the question is more: can your webserver(s) handle the amount of visitors per period of time |
| 11:07 |
rocking |
so if i have webservers in load balancing and postgres at backghround, i can handle any no. of users |
| 11:07 |
rocking |
right? |
| 11:08 |
Jigal |
I'm not 100% sure, but I don't think that TYPO3 can use postgress at the moment. |
| 11:08 |
rocking |
hmm |
| 11:09 |
Jigal |
better look that one up on the TYPO3 website! |
| 11:09 |
rocking |
did not find much info on typo3 website |
| 11:11 |
rocking |
does typo3 has support to oracle? |
| 11:11 |
tobi |
dbal does handle various databases, typo3 is running on pg, oracle and much more |
| 11:12 |
tobi |
althought some extension tweaking may be done ... |
| 11:12 |
rocking |
ok |
| 11:12 |
rocking |
how does typo3 stores files? |
| 11:12 |
Jigal |
http://typo3.com/Feature_list.1243.0.html at the bottom of the page list some technical environment data |
| 11:13 |
rocking |
does it use content repository and db for address reference? |
| 11:14 |
Jigal |
files are stored in the file system, various content extensions determine location of storage themselves; in db usually only filenames are stored (but the author of an extension may use different methods if it pleases him...) |
| 11:14 |
rocking |
ok |
| 11:15 |
rocking |
so how much load it may create on the framework if there is an download/upload of 10-20 k images daily |
| 11:15 |
rocking |
does the architecture is scalable enough to get the things done properly |
| 11:28 |
rocking |
i am assuing mnow the all the iamges or movie clips are stored in the content repositorya nd not in the db |
| 11:29 |
rocking |
so when there are 10-20k images upload and donwload every day, the framework should have a good indexing of files |
| 11:29 |
rocking |
does typo3 has good enought to handle this? |
| 11:31 |
FloLeBlanc |
Did anyone else experience problems when logging in to your page with a frontend user - suddenly the menupoints which have menu entries that are only visible if you are logged in get screwed up, but ONLY on the pages where this item is active |
| 11:37 |
Jigal |
ew |
| 11:37 |
Jigal |
eh... re I meant |
| 11:37 |
FloLeBlanc |
re jigal |
| 11:38 |
Jigal |
hi FloLeBlanc |
| 11:42 |
Jigal |
rocking: I don't think that uploading/downloading a lot of images (or other files) would be any different for TYPO3 or for any other dynamic web site (e.g. your own scripts). It basically uses up a lot of bandwidth and uses lots of connection time, but other than that I can't of any potential problems... |
| 11:43 |
rocking |
ok |
| 11:43 |
Jigal |
rocking: the file system might have problems with tens of thousands of files in a single directory, but then you simply modify the extension you're using to use a tree in the file system |
| 11:44 |
pulponair |
hi there |
| 11:45 |
rocking |
we can do that in typo3 without much problem,r ight? |
| 11:45 |
FloLeBlanc |
hi pulp |
| 11:46 |
Jigal |
rocking: an extension is written in PHP and you can pretty much edit it on the fly (you only need to empty one cache) |
| 11:47 |
rocking |
ah |
| 11:47 |
rocking |
ok |
| 11:47 |
Jigal |
hi pulponair |
| 11:47 |
rocking |
i was just trying to make sure that typo3 is the best solution before i commit |
| 11:47 |
rocking |
thats the reason i was asking all sort of questions |
| 11:47 |
rocking |
once i committed, i need to justify scalability, server response time and the effort involved in it |
| 11:48 |
Jigal |
I don't know the other CMS systems that well, so I wouldn't say of any CMS that it is the *best* solution :-) |
| 11:49 |
rocking |
yes, but just wondering abt typo3 and DAm moudle of typo3 |
| 11:49 |
rocking |
ext* |
| 11:50 |
Jigal |
scalability and response time are the best for custom scripts, effort is usually better for CMS systems (because of the readily available functionality that you don't have to develop yourself) |
| 11:50 |
rocking |
in typo3, there will be custom scripts involved for my applicaitons. |
| 11:50 |
rocking |
i have to do some custom development |
| 11:51 |
Jigal |
a CMS with very few options to customize is easier to get used to, but you soon run into the limitations |
| 11:51 |
rocking |
like? |
| 11:51 |
rocking |
i.e what i am trying to figure out. what could be the limitations with typo3? |
| 11:52 |
FloLeBlanc |
Hmm it seems that the script doesn't recognize pages that are only visible when logged in as "IFSUB" allthough the user is logged in. any suggestions on that? |
| 11:53 |
Jigal |
TYPO3 has many options to customize and due to the modular structure you can pretty much extend or modify anything; this makes it harder to learn about all those ways to customize things. |
| 11:53 |
rocking |
ok |
| 11:54 |
Arnold |
Hi has anyone a hint how to make a hor menu with a spacer that dinamicly sizes ? |
| 11:57 |
Jigal |
rocking: for example, TYPO3 has support for a richt text editor (RTE) in the backend. The RTE is implemented as an extension, so if you don't like the RTE you can simply remove it and install another (there are at least three RTE's available that I know of). A CMS with only the standard, built-in RTE might form a problem if you can't replace the RTE... |
| 11:57 |
FloLeBlanc |
arnold do you want to horizontally distribute your menu? |
| 11:58 |
FloLeBlanc |
or what should the spacer do? |
| 12:03 |
Arnold |
FloLeBlanc - yes hor and after the spacer one more item |
| 12:04 |
FloLeBlanc |
and distributeX for the menu does not what you need? |
| 12:05 |
Arnold |
don't know I have read a lot and are a bit lost ;-) where do I find the doc on distributeX |
| 12:06 |
Jigal |
FloLeBlanc: what's the IFSUB? |
| 12:06 |
FloLeBlanc |
http://www.typo3.net/tsref/menu_objects/gmenu/ |
| 12:06 |
FloLeBlanc |
Jigal: IFSUB triggers when the menu has a subitem |
| 12:07 |
Arnold |
let me read if you wanna see the site http://lad.videocallcenter.nl/ |
| 12:07 |
FloLeBlanc |
f.e.: I have a menu that says IFSUB class="menuparent" (in pseudocode), now if I have a menupoint with subpages which are only visible when the FEUser is logged in, the menu doesn't seem to understand that the menupoint has subpoints when building the menu even when the user is logged in |
| 12:07 |
Jigal |
FloLeBlanc: Ah, a property of T/G/IMG-MENU! |
| 12:08 |
FloLeBlanc |
jigal: yes. When I create a subpage that is visible ALL the time (no matter if the user is logged in or not) the menu works correct, when the user is NOT logged in the menu works correct, when the user logs in the IFSUB doesn't trigger and the menu gets screwed |
| 12:08 |
FloLeBlanc |
the weird thing is that this ONLY happens on the specific page |
| 12:09 |
Jigal |
FloLeBlanc: you did empty all the caches you could find? ;-P |
| 12:10 |
FloLeBlanc |
jigal: never would have thought of that :-P |
| 12:11 |
FloLeBlanc |
lol |
| 12:12 |
Jigal |
FloLeBlanc: you build an entire page? not using some kind of frames? |
| 12:12 |
FloLeBlanc |
If I tell t3 just to show the subpages at "User Login "Usergroup1", it works if I tell it to show it "at any login" it gets screwed |
| 12:12 |
rocking |
ah reat jigal,. thanks fo this infromation |
| 12:13 |
FloLeBlanc |
Jigal: I'm pretty sure this has to do with the ifsub trigger, checked the code and the "only" problem is that the class="menuparent" code is missing |
| 12:14 |
Jigal |
FloLeBlanc: IFSUB has the lowest priority of those properties (NO, CUR, ACT, etc); can that be of influence? |
| 12:18 |
Jigal |
brb |
| 12:20 |
koomi |
uschi_: i just discovered acl for news categories (updated my t3 install & tt_news to current versions) |
| 12:21 |
uschi_ |
great, koomi |
| 12:21 |
uschi_ |
you updated to RC2? |
| 12:23 |
FloLeBlanc |
Jigal: that wouldn't explain why it works when I set "Visible for usergroup A" and not when I set "visible at login" |
| 12:32 |
koomi |
gnar. |
| 12:32 |
koomi |
after the update my tv page module doesn't show the tv content fields anymore |
| 12:32 |
koomi |
fe is generated just fine, page properties show the correct template |
| 12:33 |
uschi_ |
Does anyone know about an extension, that allows users to enlarge fonts and so on? |
| 12:34 |
uschi |
good morning Ries :)) |
| 12:34 |
Jigal |
hi uschi, Ries, koomi |
| 12:34 |
uschi |
hi Jigal :) |
| 12:34 |
Denyerec |
Hey guys |
| 12:35 |
koomi |
f*ck |
| 12:35 |
koomi |
why is my page tv module borked? |
| 12:35 |
koomi |
all elements on the page are shown as "non-used" |
| 12:36 |
uschi |
because they are not integrated in to the Contents field, i suppose |
| 12:37 |
koomi |
wtf? why doesn't the em warn me about this: http://lists.netfielders.de/pipermail/typo3-project-templavoila/2006-August/001218.html |
| 12:38 |
uschi |
i doubt whether this message is still up to date |
| 12:39 |
Arnold |
FloLeBlanc: this way all menu buttons are sized I would like that only the spacer resizes OR howto center the text on the buttons than ? |
| 12:39 |
Jigal |
FloLeBlanc: a bit related?? : http://bugs.typo3.org/view.php?id=4519 |
| 12:40 |
FloLeBlanc |
arnold: align=center on the text on the button? |
| 12:43 |
Fanty |
how do I make a not-condition in TS? ie. [loginUser *] && not [globalVar = GP:glogin = 1] |
| 12:45 |
Arnold |
FloLeBlanc: Yes now use offset |
| 12:46 |
bauschan |
hi @all ! |
| 12:48 |
koomi |
uschi: it is. disabled kb_tv_clipboard and my page module was back fully functional |
| 12:52 |
FloLeBlanc |
hi bauschan |
| 12:54 |
Ries |
Hey uschi |
| 12:54 |
Ries |
Hey Jigal |
| 12:54 |
bauschan |
hi flo. hope everythings going well! |
| 12:54 |
uschi |
had your first coffee then, Ries? |
| 12:54 |
FloLeBlanc |
yes quite ok thank you... how are you? |
| 12:54 |
Ries |
uschi: for me no coffe yet :( |
| 12:55 |
bauschan |
fine. just digging into kb_shop |
| 12:55 |
Ries |
uschi: see PM link, is that what you need? On the left side some kinda main menu, and on the right side teh sub menu? |
| 12:55 |
FloLeBlanc |
except I face the problem that there is no way yet in sr_feuser_register to have users commit a change of the email address |
| 12:56 |
Ries |
uschi: My question is, a) Your sub-portals, are they always at the same level? |
| 12:56 |
Jigal |
hi Ries |
| 12:56 |
uschi |
no, they are not |
| 12:56 |
uschi |
this is why i would try to identify it by the page type |
| 12:57 |
Ries |
uschi: In my case they are always on the same level, so it's easy for me to set teh levelFixed |
| 12:57 |
uschi |
or the layout field, but i do prefer the page type solution |
| 12:57 |
bauschan |
FloLeBlanc: sorry, I'm not that familiar with sr_feuser_register |
| 12:57 |
Ries |
uschi: what if you set the level by means of a typoscript constant? |
| 12:57 |
FloLeBlanc |
well no one seems to be :) |
| 12:57 |
uschi |
i would like to add one or two fields to the pages table |
| 12:58 |
uschi |
that means that if a portal gets shifted around in the tree and ends up in another level |
| 12:59 |
uschi |
you would have to take care of the constant as well, and that means template-access to people who might be good in structuring |
| 12:59 |
uschi |
i would like to avoid that |
| 13:00 |
Ries |
I understand... |
| 13:01 |
uschi |
is the level not somewhere present in some f... variable anyway? |
| 13:01 |
uschi |
TSFE or something? |
| 13:02 |
uschi |
i am sure the level is calculated for the frontend |
| 13:02 |
uschi |
it has to be |
| 13:03 |
Fanty |
Anyway to negate a value in TS? -- e.g. *not* [globalVar = GP:glogin = 1] |
| 13:03 |
uschi |
did you try != ? |
| 13:04 |
Ries |
uschi: how can I try != ?? |
| 13:05 |
uschi |
not you |
| 13:05 |
Ries |
uschi: as far as I can see looking in code aswell, entryLevel is not a stdWrap so you cannot even call a fucntion or anything |
| 13:05 |
uschi |
about negating conditions for Fanty |
| 13:05 |
Ries |
Fanty: use else |
| 13:06 |
Fanty |
I cant.. I have [loginUser *] && *not* [globalVar = GP:glogin = 1] |
| 13:07 |
Fanty |
Ries: yes, and it dosen't work |
| 13:07 |
uschi |
funny thing that, i may use = => < and > but not != ?? |
| 13:07 |
tobi |
hm try [loginUser *] temp.something=... and another cond. [globalVar = GP:glogin = 1] temp.something> |
| 13:08 |
Ries |
Fanty: elso always works for making a 'not' kinfa construct |
| 13:09 |
Ries |
Fanty: why are you not using : [loginUser = *] ?? |
| 13:10 |
Ries |
or do you need someting from a get/post var? |
| 13:10 |
uschi |
where can i find out what is in TSFE? |
| 13:11 |
uschi |
the relevant part of the documentation i mean |
| 13:11 |
Ries |
uschi: t3lib_div::print_array(.......); |
| 13:11 |
Ries |
uschi: you mean this? http://typo3.org/documentation/document-library/references/doc_core_tsref/4.0.0/view/toc/0/ |
| 13:12 |
Ries |
brb |
| 13:13 |
uschi |
i can obviously do some things with TSFE: via TS |
| 13:14 |
tobi |
uschi, here is a example with the layout field, you could easily change it to type .. http://www.typo3wizard.com/de/snippets/cool-stuff-typoscript/benutzen-des-layout-feldes-in-tt-content-und-pages.html |
| 13:14 |
nick108 |
morning everybody |
| 13:15 |
uschi |
thx toby |
| 13:15 |
nick108 |
I need some pointers for debugging the function pageNotFoundHandler |
| 13:16 |
uschi |
this will do for the quick and dirty solution, the layout |
| 13:16 |
Fanty |
Ries: http://phpfi.com/212653 |
| 13:16 |
uschi |
but still, i have to calculate the fucking level |
| 13:18 |
nick108 |
I've read Ries' posting about page not found handling using a user function |
| 13:18 |
nick108 |
http://lists.netfielders.de/pipermail/typo3-english/2006-February/019801.html |
| 13:18 |
uschi |
but perhaps it is possible to use special = rootline with special = value |
| 13:18 |
uschi |
i will have to try out |
| 13:18 |
Fanty |
glogin is required to implement the "log more people into the same session" I'm working on |
| 13:19 |
nick108 |
but I would prefer to use a simple redirect to another page |
| 13:19 |
uschi |
because then i only need the id |
| 13:22 |
nick108 |
anyway, could anyone give me a pointer as to how I can output the variable $code in tslib_fe ->pageNotFoundHandler? |
| 13:22 |
Arnold |
FloLeBlanc: thanks for the help can live with the solution ;-) |
| 13:23 |
nick108 |
that's sort of a general question: how to debug object oriented code? :-( |
| 13:24 |
uschi |
unfortunatly value does not work for special = rootline *sniff* |
| 13:24 |
Denyerec |
http://sozutux.dyndns.org/preview/wla/template/tmpl-main.html |
| 13:24 |
Denyerec |
:D |
| 13:25 |
uschi |
very darky :) |
| 13:27 |
Denyerec |
at least it's finished, that's the main thing :D |
| 13:27 |
koomi |
:) |
| 13:27 |
koomi |
.o0(oswd.org) |
| 13:27 |
Denyerec |
Now all I need to do is throw in the typo hooks and invoice :) |
| 13:27 |
beev0r |
nice menu |
| 13:28 |
uschi |
yes, indeed |
| 13:28 |
Denyerec |
You know I cannot understand the mentality behind anyone who submits to OSWD. |
| 13:28 |
Denyerec |
It makes no sense at all... |
| 13:28 |
Denyerec |
Well, maybe it doesn't to *me* because I'm a designer and they're making my life very very difficult. |
| 13:28 |
beev0r |
maybe it's because they're too dumb to participate in the open source community by posting code |
| 13:28 |
beev0r |
;) |
| 13:29 |
Denyerec |
Haha yeah maybe. |
| 13:29 |
koomi |
i do like oswd. good place to pick up some design for inspiration and start modifying wihtout the need to start from scratch |
| 13:29 |
Denyerec |
Tht much is true |
| 13:29 |
Denyerec |
I usually pay people for that. |
| 13:29 |
koomi |
you prolly use windows too :) |
| 13:29 |
Denyerec |
if I can't think of something, I'll pay a designer to do a rough draft, then take it from there. |
| 13:30 |
Denyerec |
it's easier than spending 3 days myself pissing about. |
| 13:30 |
koomi |
gnar. ldap integration is a pita |
| 13:30 |
Denyerec |
and of course I use windows. |
| 13:30 |
Denyerec |
I have to use Photoshop |
| 13:30 |
Denyerec |
and Fuji Software |
| 13:30 |
Denyerec |
Which is PC only |
| 13:31 |
beev0r |
hey. i'm trying to set up a win2k3 server with ldap atm |
| 13:31 |
Denyerec |
Heh |
| 13:31 |
beev0r |
and i'm too stupid |
| 13:31 |
Denyerec |
I have a friend trying to figure out OpenLDAP |
| 13:31 |
koomi |
beev0r: good luck :) |
| 13:31 |
beev0r |
i found a nice tutorial |
| 13:31 |
beev0r |
but i'm still too stupid. haha |
| 13:31 |
koomi |
one of t´he funniest papers i read lately was an introduction to ldap and the wonderful world of acronyms |
| 13:36 |
tobi |
is there a option in templavoila so that i can do a copy default elements for translated pages? i would like to have it the same way as in the classic page module |
| 13:48 |
m4rtijn |
heyho |
| 13:48 |
toms |
hi. |
| 13:48 |
toms |
I'm using news_feedit and i noticed, that new entries are hidden by default. How can I change that default value so the new entries are shown immediately? |
| 13:55 |
Ries |
back |
| 13:55 |
Ries |
uschi: have you tried a mount point? |
| 13:56 |
uschi |
no |
| 13:56 |
uschi |
what could it be good for in this situation? |
| 13:57 |
uschi |
i do not want to deepen the treestructure of the menu artifically |
| 13:58 |
m4rtijn |
doesn anyone have some tips on this: I'm making a typo website with a flash navigation which is not integrated into typo3 and static.. so no XML stuff.. do I have to use frames for this...so i can use target ="index" for the flash navigation? |
| 13:59 |
m4rtijn |
I've chatted with smda about this I think.. who said frames would be the best solution so the navigation doesnt reload every time. |
| 13:59 |
uschi |
frames are evil |
| 13:59 |
smda |
aehm... |
| 14:00 |
m4rtijn |
:).. I could be wrong smda.. im not sure if it was you |
| 14:02 |
smda |
never said it that way.. at least :) frames would be the esiest way for you if you don't want to pass an argument or other way to keep track of current page.. but I agree. frames _are_ evil |
| 14:02 |
Jigal |
m4rtijn: it's true: the navigation doesn't reload every time... frames are usually a p.i.t.a. Besides, if you use a login on you're site you have to remember to send login/logout request to the top most frame (if the menu is different for logged-in users and others) |
| 14:03 |
Jigal |
m4rtijn: statistics are incorrect when you use frames; one pageview can result in multiple pages (frames) to be loaded... |
| 14:03 |
Ries |
uschi: with mount point you might avoid creating a xlass for the menu rendering system.. |
| 14:04 |
m4rtijn |
k, thx a lot |
| 14:04 |
uschi |
yes, but how can i use it in this situation |
| 14:04 |
uschi |
the page tree looks like it should look |
| 14:05 |
Ries |
uschi: well... then it looks like you need to XCLASS the menu system... 'I think' |
| 14:05 |
uschi |
hm, shit |
| 14:10 |
j0hndeere |
Good morning, humans. |
| 14:11 |
beev0r |
good morning, machine |
| 14:11 |
Jigal |
how rude! ;-) no good morning for me j0hndeere?? |
| 14:11 |
j0hndeere |
Well, of what race are you? |
| 14:12 |
uschi |
i am twisting around the mountpoint thought |
| 14:13 |
Jigal |
j0hndeere: I'm a non-corporeal life form |
| 14:13 |
uschi |
i suppose i have to finish the mapping first and then try it out |
| 14:14 |
j0hndeere |
And how precisely does a non-corporeal life form communicate via computers? |
| 14:16 |
Jigal |
uschi: I tried to read back to see the start of your problem, but I couldn't find it... It would be rather informative to know the limitations and how to deal with them... |
| 14:16 |
Jigal |
j0hndeere: energy! information is stored as energy ;-P |
| 14:16 |
uschi |
yes, i will keep you informed |
| 14:17 |
Jigal |
uschi: actually, I have no clue what your problem is (I tried to read it in the history, but for me the conversation starts somewhere in the middle); is it easy to explain? |
| 14:18 |
uschi |
no, i do not think so |
| 14:18 |
uschi |
i am working on a page for our university |
| 14:19 |
uschi |
inside this website i have so called portals, which are fully blown websites of their own |
| 14:19 |
uschi |
means: they need their own mainmenu, there own breadcrumbs and so on |
| 14:19 |
uschi |
now those portals can appear on every level of the tree |
| 14:19 |
Jigal |
so they live on subtrees in the overall page tree... |
| 14:20 |
uschi |
yes, and i cannot foresee the entrylevel |
| 14:20 |
Jigal |
they have their own (sub)domain? |
| 14:20 |
uschi |
no they do not have it |
| 14:21 |
uschi |
this would make things easy, but is impossible in our case |
| 14:21 |
uschi |
so my idea was: Create a new page type Portal startpage |
| 14:21 |
uschi |
and when you are somewhere in the tree, look for the next page up which is of that type |
| 14:22 |
uschi |
calculate its level and then use that as entrylevel |
| 14:22 |
uschi |
e.g. for the mainmenu |
| 14:22 |
Jigal |
yep, quite logical! |
| 14:23 |
uschi |
yes, but obviously impossible, because the level is not stored in the page tree |
| 14:23 |
uschi |
in table pages, i mean |
| 14:23 |
Jigal |
stupid things is: the content element "Menu/Sitemap" has a 'Starting page', but the standard menu obviously hasn't :-( |
| 14:24 |
uschi |
right |
| 14:24 |
uschi |
and if you want a submenu, you would need the entrylevel again |
| 14:25 |
uschi |
you could use special = directory and give the value of the portal page id |
| 14:25 |
uschi |
but then, what about the submenues? |
| 14:25 |
Jigal |
http://typo3.org/documentation/document-library/core-documentation/doc_core_tstemplates/0.0.1/view/2/3/ |
| 14:26 |
Jigal |
(I'm reading this) |
| 14:27 |
uschi |
thx for the link, but the problem is, we do not want to be every portal on a certain level just because of the menu question |
| 14:28 |
uschi |
it effects urls as well |
| 14:29 |
uschi |
the only way to adjust the entry per portal seems to be constants |
| 14:30 |
uschi |
but if you shift a portal around in the tree it might end up on another level |
| 14:30 |
Jigal |
and the article says that support for mount points is rather limited (although it might be outdated) |
| 14:31 |
uschi |
anyway, i have to mark some latin papers now |
| 14:31 |
ralze |
i'm editing pages in 4.0 in html source view to get some specific mailto: link configured. some of the masking characters are behaving strange. %20 is giving back @, %21 gives A, %22 gives B, %23 gives C... but %FC is working fine. any hints on that? |
| 14:31 |
Jigal |
uschi: good luck with both :-) |
| 14:31 |
uschi |
this kind of brainhopping between teaching and typo3 is bound to drive me mad one day |
| 14:36 |
koomi |
does anyone use eu_ldap with more than a few users? with our setup the extensio does not properly sync new users (aka not at all) |
| 14:37 |
Fanty |
anyway to support multiline stuff with locallang.xml? |
| 14:38 |
Irix_1 |
Denyerec Hey :) one small question.. I have set up everything with tt_news and thank you for the help the other day, but now it seems that I can't make CSS changes.. what could be wrong on this ? |
| 14:41 |
Jigal |
ralze: http://typo3.org/documentation/document-library/references/doc_core_tsref/4.0.0/view/7/3/ look for "spamProtectEmailAddresses" |
| 14:43 |
floxx |
t3 4.0.5 + templavoila 1.3.0: i've got wrong paths if i use images in flexible content elements: <path_to_frontend>/frontend/htdocs/uploads/tx_templavoila//<path_to_frontend>/frontend/htdocs/fileadmin/<image.jpg> |
| 14:44 |
ralze |
Jigal: thank you! that's it! great :) |
| 14:46 |
floxx |
anybody else the same problem? |
| 14:56 |
m4rtijn |
hmm, does smbdy have experience with typo3 wamp? |
| 14:57 |
m4rtijn |
I did a restart and forgot to stop it before.. |
| 14:57 |
m4rtijn |
Now it doesnt start anymore |
| 14:57 |
toms |
tried to restart windows? maybe that will help |
| 14:58 |
m4rtijn |
i just did a restart :p.. thats why its broken in the first place |
| 14:58 |
m4rtijn |
> |
| 14:58 |
m4rtijn |
:) |
| 14:58 |
toms |
ah, i though you did a restart of wamp... |
| 14:59 |
m4rtijn |
unforntunately a windows restart.. which somehow stopped the wamp before I noticed it was still running |
| 15:01 |
m4rtijn |
the error is: make_sock could not bind to address 0.0.0.0:443 .. no listening sockets available, shutting sown |
| 15:02 |
toms |
seems as icant help you here |
| 15:04 |
m4rtijn |
lol.. it was skype.. blocking the port.. damn chat progs |
| 15:19 |
koomi |
basic question: can i configure the rte on a per usergroup basis? |
| 15:19 |
Miriam |
have u tried to set info group TSconfig? |
| 15:20 |
tobi |
yes, because everything that can be done in page tsconfig can also be done in user tsconfig by prefixing page. |
| 15:20 |
tobi |
(or at leas everything should work, had some exceptions.) |
| 15:27 |
Irix_1 |
anyone who can help me please... I have installed tt_news and set off the default CSS styles.. and included my CSS to the tt_news in TS in setup.. but its not taking the CSS styles.. what could be the problem ? |
| 15:27 |
gerards |
everyone is using tt_news except me... |
| 15:31 |
zatmania |
no |
| 15:31 |
zatmania |
must overidde CC_STYLE_CONTENT |
| 15:31 |
zatmania |
CSS |
| 15:32 |
zatmania |
plugin.tt_news { |
| 15:32 |
zatmania |
_CSS_DEFAULT_STYLE ( |
| 15:32 |
zatmania |
like this |
| 15:34 |
zatmania |
plugin.tt_news { _CSS_DEFAULT_STYLE(my override style)} |
| 15:44 |
johnd0e |
hi everyone |
| 15:46 |
johnd0e |
I'm looking for a way to hide part of the pagetree from a BE-group. Can I use TS to accomplish that or do I have to alter the grooup structures? |
| 16:02 |
Irix_1 |
zatmania sorry but even if I do this it dosn't work... |
| 16:05 |
tobi |
hm can be done with groups and db mounts or by not giving access to this pages johnd0e |
| 16:05 |
zatmania |
Irix_1 : make a template and do it, in my site it works |
| 16:07 |
Irix_1 |
Irix_1 now I got some kind of respons I can change some things but not all.. like the h3 header color I can't but the time color I can.. :) so thank you |
| 16:12 |
zatmania |
Irix_1 : i paste you my telmplate code |
| 16:13 |
zatmania |
Irix_1 : http://hashbin.com/2cd.html |
| 17:03 |
jananne |
hello all, i want my menu to apear like this: http://jananne.net/help.jpg <-- please look at the pic and help |
| 17:03 |
jananne |
how in the hell can i do that :(? |
| 17:04 |
koomi |
? so you've already got a (graphical) menu? |
| 17:04 |
koomi |
this is really basic stuff. did you read the modern template building tutorial? |
| 17:05 |
jananne |
yye |
| 17:05 |
koomi |
either do it as a text menu with lists (ul) or a graphical menu with gmenu |
| 17:06 |
ralze |
i'm looking for a way to display content from the root-page on all other sites. I'm sure this has been done before and isn't rocket science - but i can't figure out what to type into google... |
| 17:06 |
ralze |
will someone give me another hint? |
| 17:06 |
ralze |
thanks |
| 17:35 |
koomi |
ralze: try a custom query .where and .andWhere or simply use the insert record content element |
| 17:35 |
koomi |
or build it in ts and map it in the template |
| 17:35 |
koomi |
does it need to be editable by someone? |
| 17:36 |
ralze |
yes. that's the main reason, why i want it. so someone edits it only once and the changes apply to all pages. |
| 17:37 |
ralze |
i tried insert record, but it didn't show... |
| 17:37 |
koomi |
should |
| 17:37 |
koomi |
did you really select the ce or just the page |
| 17:37 |
koomi |
else: http://typo3.org/documentation/document-library/references/doc_core_tsref/4.0.0/view/5/5/ |
| 17:38 |
koomi |
but this is the dark side of typoscript (for me at last) |
| 17:39 |
ralze |
dark side of typoscript? i'm not even fluid on the light side :) |
| 17:39 |
ralze |
i did really select the ce... |
| 17:39 |
koomi |
ralze: than i'd rather advise to find a spotlight first :) |
| 17:49 |
threna1 |
Why cant I find the Extension "smarty" in the extension repository at typo3.org? |
| 17:59 |
koomi |
ralze: :) http://phpfi.com/212764 |
| 18:06 |
neostar |
hi there |
| 18:19 |
Denyerec |
Hmpf. |
| 18:47 |
voidus |
anyone use newloginbox? |
| 18:47 |
voidus |
threna1: rtp_smarty? or just smarty? |
| 18:54 |
threna1 |
voidus: I have installed rtp_smarty, it seems to work fine. but I also wanted to try smarty and wonder why neither smarty nor rtp_smarty is listed in the repository list at typo3.org, but it is listed in the repository I can access from my typo3 installation |
| 18:56 |
voidus |
both are listed |
| 18:57 |
voidus |
http://typo3.org/extensions/repository/?tx_terfe_pi1%5Bview%5D=search&no_cache=1&tx_terfe_pi1%5Bsword%5D=smarty |
| 18:57 |
threna1 |
can you say which one better to use? |
| 18:58 |
voidus |
smarty is a just smarty engine wrapped in t3 extension format. rtp_smarty is more intelligent |
| 18:59 |
threna1 |
thx |
| 19:36 |
uschi |
Ries, are you still available? |
| 20:19 |
andreasbalzer |
hi to all designers out there :) i'm looking for the exact fonttype used in http://www.uni-erfurt.de/religion_im_konflikt/Image5.gif |
| 20:19 |
andreasbalzer |
any idea? |
| 20:21 |
muh-die-kuh |
andreasbalzer: already checked wtf? |
| 20:24 |
andreasbalzer |
what's that? |
| 20:24 |
andreasbalzer |
ah great |
| 20:24 |
Denyerec |
andreasbalzer |
| 20:24 |
Denyerec |
the kk or the body type ? |
| 20:24 |
andreasbalzer |
both |
| 20:25 |
neostar |
http://www.myfonts.com/WhatTheFont/ |
| 20:27 |
Denyerec |
It';s Denver |
| 20:28 |
Denyerec |
Hehehe |
| 20:28 |
Denyerec |
not Denyer |
| 20:28 |
Denyerec |
but Denver |
| 20:28 |
Denyerec |
Denver-TS to be exact. |
| 20:29 |
Denyerec |
Nice traditional germanic typeface TBH |
| 20:31 |
Denyerec |
uschi you about ? |
| 20:32 |
uschi |
here i am, pondering about one problem after another |
| 20:32 |
uschi |
what's on, Denyerec |
| 20:32 |
Denyerec |
hehe |
| 20:32 |
Denyerec |
sounds like you're pondering Typo |
| 20:33 |
Denyerec |
:) |
| 20:33 |
Denyerec |
FCEs don't render the content of the Header field on their form. |
| 20:33 |
Denyerec |
Which is a bit poo. |
| 20:33 |
Denyerec |
I'm wondering if you know of a way to make them do so. |
| 20:33 |
uschi |
i know, but there is no solution yet |
| 20:33 |
uschi |
no, this is something to find out for you :) |
| 20:34 |
uschi |
robert lemke told me last year that this would be a good training for me to learn how to write extensions :) |
| 20:35 |
uschi |
one woul have to check |
| 20:35 |
uschi |
a) is this an FCE |
| 20:35 |
uschi |
b) is there a headerfield defined |
| 20:35 |
andreasbalzer |
sry.. i just wasn't able to respond, as i tried to open a clementine.. ..at least I know my Logitech keyboard can handle the juice of a clementine falling upon.. ;) |
| 20:36 |
uschi |
(h1-h6) must come out of the content element |
| 20:36 |
uschi |
if we have it in there ... |
| 20:36 |
Denyerec |
Hahaha |
| 20:36 |
Denyerec |
Mmm. |
| 20:36 |
uschi |
show the first one as the title |
| 20:36 |
uschi |
why not |
| 20:36 |
Denyerec |
See I set the default header level in TS-Constants |
| 20:36 |
uschi |
this is the only way todo it |
| 20:37 |
Denyerec |
so all headers come out at a certain level |
| 20:37 |
Denyerec |
and I see in the TS panel that normal headers get parsed by something |
| 20:37 |
Denyerec |
so I think I need to do some plumbing |
| 20:37 |
uschi |
you can define that for your FCE as well |
| 20:38 |
uschi |
what do you mean, are we talking about backend forms output or fe? |
| 20:38 |
Denyerec |
only doing it in one place would e nice |
| 20:38 |
Denyerec |
in the BE form there is a header field. |
| 20:38 |
Denyerec |
on the FE, it doesn't render it. |
| 20:38 |
uschi |
and you have filled in something? |
| 20:39 |
uschi |
never ocurred to me |
| 20:39 |
uschi |
i mean, you fill in an fce |
| 20:40 |
uschi |
the traditional header field is shown in be-form |
| 20:40 |
uschi |
you fill it in, and you cannot see it in FE??? |
| 20:40 |
uschi |
This is really weird |
| 20:40 |
uschi |
Denyerec ? |
| 20:43 |
Denyerec |
Uhhuh |
| 20:43 |
Denyerec |
That's what happens |
| 20:43 |
Denyerec |
I fill in the Header field in the BE |
| 20:43 |
Denyerec |
and in the FE, where I would expect to see the header, nothing comes out |
| 20:46 |
uschi |
hm, this is strange |
| 20:46 |
uschi |
let me try something out |
| 20:49 |
uschi |
shit, you are right, Denyerec |
| 20:49 |
Denyerec |
:( |
| 20:50 |
uschi |
This is really ... |
| 20:50 |
uschi |
the next f.... problem |
| 20:51 |
uschi |
it did not occur to me, because i used the classic page module |
| 20:51 |
uschi |
as well |
| 20:51 |
uschi |
so at least i am warned now |
| 20:52 |
uschi |
hm, the problem is this |
| 20:53 |
uschi |
if you have an fce, the hx-elements in there are not evaluated, if for example, you want to use the content-type section menu (out of menu sitemap |
| 20:53 |
uschi |
the only thing i can imagine is that the header is silently set to hidden when you have an FCE |
| 20:54 |
uschi |
i will check in the db |
| 20:54 |
Denyerec |
I did wonder about your problem last night |
| 20:54 |
Denyerec |
when you said your portals are on any level... |
| 20:55 |
uschi |
yes, and? |
| 20:55 |
Denyerec |
I wondered whether you could make all your portals root level, and have the shortcuts to the top levels. |
| 20:55 |
uschi |
it is still my problem |
| 20:55 |
uschi |
no, because then all constants and all setup is cleared :-( |
| 21:00 |
Denyerec |
:( |
| 21:00 |
Denyerec |
don't understnad that, but OK ;) |
| 21:01 |
uschi |
one thing after another, now i am into this header business |
| 21:04 |
uschi |
Ries, heeeellllllllllp |
| 21:05 |
uschi |
there is a lot of stuff missing |
| 21:05 |
uschi |
Denyerec, the whole type-thing is gone |
| 21:06 |
uschi |
Do you use Skin grey2? |
| 21:12 |
Ries |
uschi: what's up? |
| 21:12 |
uschi |
Denyerec and I encountered a problem with headers in FCE-elements |
| 21:12 |
uschi |
Even if you fill in the traditional header it will not be rendered in the frontend |
| 21:12 |
Ries |
uschi: what is the big discovery? |
| 21:13 |
uschi |
could not write quickly enough |
| 21:13 |
uschi |
also all the type-stuff like index checked an top link is gone |
| 21:45 |
Denyerec |
I don't use header grey |
| 21:45 |
Denyerec |
skin grey! |
| 21:45 |
Denyerec |
Damn headers! Get out of my header! |
| 21:45 |
Denyerec |
Head! |
| 21:45 |
Denyerec |
*gah* |
| 21:52 |
uschi |
Denyerec, i think i found a perhaps solution :) |
| 21:53 |
Denyerec |
Add a header element to the FCE and map it as editing type "Header" ? |
| 21:53 |
uschi |
In the documentation it says, that you can access the all fields of the normal content object inside the fce |
| 21:53 |
uschi |
<TypoScript> |
| 21:53 |
uschi |
10 = TEXT |
| 21:53 |
uschi |
10.data = register:tx_templavoila_pi1.parentRec.uid |
| 21:53 |
uschi |
10.wrap = ?uid? field of parent record is | |
| 21:53 |
uschi |
</TypoScript> |
| 21:54 |
uschi |
this way you could keep the traditional header |
| 21:54 |
uschi |
but there are some caveats dmitry put into the documentation |
| 21:55 |
uschi |
you find this under T3DataStructure extension introduction |
| 21:55 |
uschi |
this would be the other way round |
| 21:56 |
uschi |
Do not have the header inside the fce but use the normal one |
| 21:57 |
uschi |
Denyerec is that an acceptable way for you |
| 21:58 |
Denyerec |
M |
| 21:58 |
Denyerec |
Edit the DS to output the header in the FCE wrapping |
| 21:58 |
Denyerec |
so the normal header field is output ? |
| 21:58 |
uschi |
exactly |
| 21:58 |
Denyerec |
Sounds like the ideal solution |
| 21:58 |
uschi |
you would map it as EL outer, Editing type None |
| 21:59 |
Denyerec |
the only problem being is when you save it you'd lose the custom XML |
| 21:59 |
uschi |
yes, true |
| 22:00 |
uschi |
but on the other hand i do not understand why the normal header is not rendered |
| 22:03 |
Denyerec |
Yeah... |
| 22:03 |
Denyerec |
Perhaps cos the FCE renders the markup you tell it to. |
| 22:03 |
Denyerec |
and nothing more |
| 22:03 |
Denyerec |
So if you don't tell it to render the header specifically, then you get nothing ? |
| 22:11 |
uschi_ |
wb Ries |
| 22:13 |
uschi |
Ries, do you know why I am deprived of my usual type-section for normal content elements if i want to create or edit an FCE? |
| 22:13 |
uschi |
where is this defined |
| 22:48 |
los-lucas |
hi |
| 22:49 |
los-lucas |
how can I define sorting column for FE plugin? setting $this->internal['orderBy'] and $this->internal['orderByList'] doesn't seem to make a difference |
| 23:06 |
los-lucas |
hello? : ) |
| 23:23 |
Ries |
los-lucas: did you clear the BE cache after teh change? |
| 23:24 |
Denyerec |
Hmf |
| 23:24 |
los-lucas |
Ries: fixed it. it was my mistake - there was another line resetting the value |
| 23:24 |
Denyerec |
I want to do something and I don't know what. |
| 23:26 |
uschi |
Hm, Denyerec, perhaps finding out where we could adjust the be-form for FCEs to have the header layout back? |
| 23:27 |
uschi |
because this is needed, otherwise have to choose the header layout in the FCE, but insert the text in the main part of the form |
| 23:28 |
Denyerec |
Indeed |
| 23:31 |
pond |
does anyone know wht to include in a home made user_func to make it cache? |
| 23:34 |
Denyerec |
No pond, but having written a userfunc to clean up news cropping, I'd love to know. |
| 23:36 |
Denyerec |
uschi - [lib.stdheader.10.1] is somehow resonsible for ordinary headers |
| 23:36 |
uschi |
i know that |
| 23:36 |
Denyerec |
I didn't. |
| 23:37 |
uschi |
but the form field header_layout is not there in the BE form for FCEs |
| 23:37 |
uschi |
then you learned something :) |
| 23:37 |
uschi |
not too bad at this time of the night |
| 23:37 |
Denyerec |
I don't understand what header_layout is for |
| 23:37 |
Denyerec |
I've never seen/used it |
| 23:37 |
Denyerec |
I've seen and used "Header" |
| 23:37 |
Denyerec |
but not "Header layout" |
| 23:37 |
uschi |
header_layout is exactly used by lib.stdHeader |
| 23:37 |
uschi |
for normal content elements it is there |
| 23:38 |
Denyerec |
I see align, type and a couple of others |
| 23:38 |
Denyerec |
do those fields make up header_layout? |
| 23:39 |
uschi |
lib.stdheader { |
| 23:39 |
uschi |
10.1.fontTag = <h2{register:headerStyle}>|</h2> |
| 23:39 |
uschi |
10.2.fontTag = <h3{register:headerStyle}>|</h3> |
| 23:39 |
uschi |
10.3.fontTag = <h4>|</h4> |
| 23:39 |
uschi |
10.4.fontTag = <h5>|</h5> |
| 23:39 |
uschi |
10.5.fontTag = <h6>|</h6> |
| 23:39 |
uschi |
} |
| 23:39 |
uschi |
somehow like this you can modify it |
| 23:40 |
pond |
Denyerec: doesn't news cache under certain circumstances? |
| 23:40 |
uschi |
it is the one with the label type |
| 23:40 |
uschi |
only the type select list is important, i think |
| 23:40 |
pond |
Ioh... right.. you didn't extned news, you just wrote another userfunc... |
| 23:40 |
uschi |
and yes, we do need the link field and the date field |
| 23:41 |
uschi |
but if we find out how it works for the type field we will get the others back in the same way |
| 23:43 |
Denyerec |
Hmm |
| 23:56 |
pond |
Denyerec: did you look at (and use) any info form this page? |
| 23:56 |
pond |
http://t3flyers.wordpress.com/2006/09/11/a-quick-guide-to-correct-caching-with-pi_base/ |
| 23:56 |
Denyerec |
NOpe, I was more concerned with getting a simple userfunc to work |
| 23:56 |
pond |
ok |
| 23:57 |
pond |
is there a way to tell if a page has been chached from within the backend? |
| 23:57 |
pond |
I don't have shell access to this server... and want to look at the typo3temp dir... |
