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00:05 uschi By the way, are you from Wales, Denyerec
00:05 uschi ?
00:05 Denyerec No...
00:05 Denyerec Why would you ask?
00:05 uschi because of those welsh law awards
00:06 Denyerec Oh
00:06 Denyerec No I just got the job through someone
00:06 Denyerec I'm mainland UK
00:06 uschi :)
00:10 Denyerec Wel uschi I am afraid I haven't the first idea where to look for the TV headers
00:10 Denyerec I've been staring at the screen for almost an hour now and have no more knowledge than when I started
00:11 uschi look, using TCEFORM you can disable certain form fields
00:11 uschi http://typo3.org/documentation/document-library/references/doc_core_tsconfig/4.0.0/view/1/3/#id2799944
00:11 uschi e.g. for hiding the whole page totile
00:11 uschi TCEFORM.pages.title {
00:11 uschi # You cannot edit the Page title field now:
00:11 uschi disabled = 1
00:11 uschi }
00:12 Denyerec So do you tihnk those are disabled by default for FCE forms ?
00:12 uschi but obviously TCEFORM.tt_content.header_layout is disabled only if they are FCEs
00:12 Denyerec Well, heh, we see it is so.
00:12 Denyerec But then the header isn't being rendered at all anyway!
00:13 uschi I do not know how to switch them on for a specific type
00:15 uschi we have to set it to disabled = 0
00:16 uschi but it seems to be disabled only if the type of the content element is an FCE
00:22 Denyerec TV is such a massive plugin
00:22 uschi it is
00:22 Denyerec hard to try and read the source for it
00:22 uschi Dmitry could do with some help, I suppose
00:23 uschi shit, time passed by again
00:26 Denyerec yeah
00:26 Denyerec and now it's 0030
00:26 uschi 01:36 here
00:27 uschi only for Ries it is early
00:27 Denyerec hehe yeah
00:28 uschi I put the whole problem down in english
00:28 uschi going to put the question on the mailing list
00:28 uschi I like your menu, by the way
00:29 Denyerec Thanks.
00:30 uschi And we really have to find out, how to export/import FCEs
00:30 Jon_yoosic hello all
00:30 Denyerec uschi I had some success copying the XML ou
00:30 Denyerec t
00:31 Jon_yoosic Been awhile (almost 1 year) but I've got another Typo3 project. I forgot a step in the install, should the dummy and source packages look like this: /somedir/source; /somedir/dummy/; OR should they all be in /somedir/ ??
00:31 Denyerec But then it mapped to the wrong file, and when I changed the file the mappings broke so I had to remap *anwyay*
00:31 Denyerec yoosic you are correct
00:31 uschi yeah, but ....
00:31 Jon_yoosic Denyrec: It was an OR question! Which one? :D
00:31 Denyerec The 1st one
00:31 Denyerec you can have:
00:32 Denyerec /dummy/ and /source/
00:32 Denyerec or you can have the dummy package extracted to the root level of the site
00:32 Denyerec and the source in a subfolder
00:32 Jon_yoosic ok thx
00:38 uschi good night to all
00:38 uschi I posted it to the tv mailing list, Denyerec
00:39 Denyerec ok uschi
00:39 Denyerec Please let me know if you get a response
00:39 Denyerec I should see it, but I don't check very often.
00:45 Jon_yoosic How is everyone? It's been a while since I've been around the Typo scene but I see a few familiar names.
00:46 Denyerec I'm still stressed out, poor and tired.
00:50 Ries uschi: how is your menu going?
00:52 Denyerec I think uschi went to bed.
00:54 Denyerec Ries, you see this:
00:54 Denyerec http://sozutux.dyndns.org/preview/wla/template/tmpl-main.html
00:54 Denyerec Imagine you clicked on categories... how would you have the subcategories of "categories" load into the right hand menu, and have the header of the right hand menu set to "categories"
00:58 Jon_yoosic Where do I increase the maximum memory size used by Typo/PHP ? It hit an 8MB limit on the 1-2-3 install
00:58 threna1 look in the php.ini
01:14 tansta good afternoon everyone :)
01:14 Jon_yoosic hello
01:15 Ries Denyerec: I only know how to create a menu from some level...
01:15 Ries Denyerec: I think uschi wan't teh same what you want
01:15 Ries Denyerec: But now I think of it
01:16 Ries Oo never mind :s
01:16 Ries Denyerec: damn you!!! you have such a graphical eye... I am still trying to get you in into g
01:31 Jon_yoosic Should typo3/ext/ be writable by the apache user/group or just writable in general?
01:31 Ries Jon_yoosic: only when you want the extension manager to write extensions there
01:31 Jon_yoosic I do
01:31 Ries officionally extension should not write to that location
01:32 Ries Jon_yoosic: You would never ever make it world writable ofcourse...
01:32 Ries Unless you are on a sucky shared hoster that doesn't know shit about permissions
01:32 Jon_yoosic not in production yet. I'm still doing local development, but yes I agree.
01:34 Jon_yoosic The hosting stuff is still a problem, the current hosting is donated by someone and he doesn't want to give up control of the site but he isn't updating it like we need him to. I need to find a host that will register us as an organization instead of having one person be able to control all of it
01:40 Jon_yoosic Another one, where do I change the default install tool password?
01:40 gerarddd i think in the install tool
01:40 gerarddd basic config
01:48 Jon_yoosic not seeing it in basic, is there some way to kick the tool back into 123 mode?
01:49 Jon_yoosic ah got it
01:50 Jon_yoosic had to hit the install tool via the backend isntead of going to /install/
01:53 Jon_yoosic thanks for your help Ries and gerarddd! Getting back into Typo3 after a long time away from it.
02:56 Ries gerarddd: We should put ourselve fore hire on this channel ;)
02:56 Ries 50 euro per solution ;)
02:56 gerarddd so mercenary....
03:01 Ries gerarddd: You know me... all for a good world..
03:01 gerarddd me too.
03:01 gerarddd no one is ever around here in the evening...
03:01 tansta alright guys, world peace :)
03:01 tansta i am
03:01 tansta its only afternoon for me
03:02 tansta 50euro per solution ???????????
03:02 gerarddd 50 euros is not expensive.
03:02 tansta man you'll be a millionair soon Ries ;)
03:02 tansta gerard, depends on the solution :)
03:03 Ries tansta: well, you have a question.. we have an answer...
03:03 Ries tansta: a solution is not a omplete website ;)
03:03 tansta i know i know
03:03 tansta hmmm...
03:03 tansta 50 euro hey ?
03:03 gerarddd 50 bucks isn't expensive.
03:04 tansta how do you make a flash image gallery with thumb nail at the bottom like the one kasper has on his pod cast ? :)
03:04 Ries We are more then happy to increase the price if you like...
03:05 tansta hahahaha
03:05 Ries tansta: I have the solution for you....... Ask Kasper... voila, 50 bucks
03:05 tansta kakakka
04:42 pond anyone know if there is a way to show the actual query of a TS select ... render Obj query?
04:42 pond some sort of debug routine?
07:19 Jigal hi all
07:20 Fanty Where would the correct place be to place be to place 2-3 lined text that needs to be translated for extensions? locallang only support single lined content
07:23 Jigal Fanty: your extension can do what it wants with the text; even though it will fysically be a single line in locallang.php you could include markers for line breaks and let the extension replace them with <br>, \n, whatever...
07:24 Fanty Jigal: yea, but thats kinda a workaround :)
07:24 Fanty I'm trying to make as few of those as I can
07:24 Jigal Fanty: or you could use more than one entry in locallang.php : my_item_line_0, my_item_line_1, ...
07:26 zatmania hi @ll
07:26 Jigal hi zatmania
07:26 zatmania hi Jigal
07:26 zatmania how are u ?
07:26 Jigal Fanty: isn't life a big workaround? ;-P
07:27 Jigal zatmania: I'm fine, thank you. How are you?
07:27 Fanty Jigal: indeed.. ;)
07:28 zatmania Jigal : fine too, i need to chnage little thing in some ext but it's cool :)
07:51 Fanty aww.. you cant overload functions in php can you?
07:53 Jigal zatmania: not much TYPO3 work for me at the moment; I've been busy getting to know the Yahoo UI AJAX library the last few days. Really cool stuff (and well tested because Yahoo uses the library on various sites).
07:55 zatmania hehe
07:55 zatmania cool
07:55 Jigal Fanty: "PHP does not support function overloading, nor is it possible to undefine or redefine previously-declared functions." ( http://www.php.net/manual/en/language.functions.php )
07:55 zatmania i don' t have do some ajax yet
07:56 Jigal Fanty: you can overload methods in objects though by inheriting from another class...
07:58 Fanty Jigal: like class a { function mymethod() { return 1; } } and makes class b extends a { function mymethod() { return 2; } } ?
07:59 Jigal Fanty: if you install runkit, it seems possible to redefine functions: http://www.php.net/manual/en/function.runkit-function-redefine.php
07:59 Jigal Fanty: yes that's how you use method overloading
08:00 Fanty Jigal: how would I go about getting mymethod to return 2+whatever the old function returned?
08:02 Jigal Fanty: you can call a::mymethod(); ( http://www.php.net/manual/en/keyword.paamayim-nekudotayim.php )
08:02 Fanty ohh.. nice link ;)
08:03 FloLeBlanc hi all
08:04 Jigal hi FloLeBlanc
08:08 FloLeBlanc hi voidus
08:08 Jigal hi voidus
08:23 Fanty I cant get over the fact that you cant make NOTs or not-equals in typoscript.. why would they not make it possible when they've already added all the other comparisons...?
08:23 FloLeBlanc Did everyone every extend sr_feuser_register for that the user has to confirm a change of his email ?
08:35 FloLeBlanc other question: can I encode the url variables to avoid http injection?
08:50 FloLeBlanc any tt_news cracks in who can help me with the single view redirection?
08:55 Jigal FloLeBlanc: what do you mean by http injection? for injection in queries? what do you want to protect?
08:57 FloLeBlanc what I actually need is that the user in sr_feuser_register can't change his phone number (cellular) which I added after the registration without confirming it with a sms. ok now if I edit this undocumentated sr_feuser_register it will take me ages to achieve this, if I could at least could prevetn the user from changing the phone nr on the net (setting the field in the template to disabled) I could implement the phone number
08:57 FloLeBlanc the problem is if I only disable the field the user could just inject the new phone value in the http line
08:59 Jigal FloLeBlanc: IMHO it's a bug that disabling a field would only mean that the field in the form is disabled, but the handling in the backend script is not...
09:00 Denyerec Jigal - would you say the yahoo ajax lib. is a safer bet than, say, jQuery or Prototype ?
09:00 FloLeBlanc well the prob is I don't know a way to disable a field only for the editing in sr_feuser_register
09:00 FloLeBlanc the only way I can think about is the dirty template fix
09:02 Jigal Or rewrite the extension to support settings for new application and edit form seperately (with default edit settings = new settings for backward compatibility)
09:04 FloLeBlanc hmm? I just added 2 fields and the compileSMS function in the code :) there was no hook that was suited
09:04 FloLeBlanc (had to prevent the sending of a confirm email)
09:06 Jigal FloLeBlanc: IIRC you can set which fields are enabled from TS; this appears to influence both the form for new users and the edit form. If you modify the code that you can put an optional field list for the edit form in TS you can seperately enable/disable fields for the new user and for the edit form.
09:07 FloLeBlanc jigal: hmm right thx
09:07 FloLeBlanc regarding tt_news: I seem to HAVE to set a pid for the single news display in the config, but I have 2 type of news (registered users / all users), if I now define in the category list for example for Category:Cars got to single news site B and A is set default, it still goes to A :(
09:09 FloLeBlanc nvm
09:09 FloLeBlanc forgot to check "use multipage single view :)
09:12 FloLeBlanc nooooooooooooooooooo typo3.org is down :(
09:16 marc| hi @ #typo3
09:17 marc| I just watched the workspace podkast and kasper used a L10N Manager in the BE, it looked nice, is it a 4.1 feature or an extension?
09:18 Denyerec l10n ?
09:18 Denyerec isn't it l18n ?
09:18 Denyerec :)
09:18 marc| localisation
09:18 marc| i count 10 :P
09:19 marc| and in the podkast it is L10N
09:20 FloLeBlanc does anyone know where I can configure the different single page views when using "Use Multipage Single View" in tt_news, doesn't seem to work to set it in the category entries
09:20 marc| I18N == internationalization
09:20 marc| L10N == localization
09:22 FloLeBlanc nvm finally works :)
09:22 marc| Denyerec: do you know anything about this feature?
09:22 Denyerec OH I was thinking of Internationalisation
09:22 Denyerec and Marc, no.
09:22 marc| hmpf ;)
09:22 Denyerec it's something I wish there was a really really good guide ot.
09:22 Denyerec to
09:22 Denyerec as it's something I want to do.
09:26 FloLeBlanc oh seems like 4.1 is out
09:27 tobi yes files are on sf
09:29 marc| tobi: did u already test 4.1? so maybe u can answer my question from above ;)
09:31 tobi hm default there is no new module, maybe you are meaning lfeditor ?
09:31 Denyerec Do you have to enable things like "ajax pagetree" etc
09:32 Denyerec or are they in by default all these new things ?
09:32 tobi default enabled most of the things
09:34 marc| tobi: http://www.shapedbox.de/l10n.jpg
09:35 Denyerec hehehe
09:38 Denyerec Ay Tobi, does the IIRE take over by default, or do extensions need to be coded with it in mind ?
09:45 tobi afaik for iire the extension needs to be codet for it
09:49 Fanty why is the password stored in cleartext in fe_users;
09:49 Fanty ?
09:50 marc| ah now i got it: l10n manager is an extension which is still beta
09:50 Fanty I don't particulary want to see peoples passwords by accident :/
09:57 koomi isnt there an extension to md5 the password?
09:58 FloLeBlanc yes there is kbmd5
09:58 FloLeBlanc but it is not encrypted by default :)
10:14 Fladi version 4.1 is released ;-)
10:15 Fanty Problem is people use the same password for a bunch of things.. anyone with the ability to edit users in typo3 can see peoples passwords and could use it for gods knows what
10:16 Jigal FloLeBlanc: the admin can change the passwords anyway; if he can't be trusted with that he is not the right person for the job.
10:16 FloLeBlanc Jigal: of course, but a sneaky admin could even remember the pw's and use them on OTHER sites :)
10:16 marc| Jigal: right he can change the pw, but he doesnt know the original pw
10:16 Jigal Anyway, it's strange to me to protect the webserver to db connection with hashed or encrypted passwords, to prevent the admin (whom you trust) from seeing passwords and sending them across the internet as plain text...
10:17 Fanty Jigal: you can only do so much with a new password you set. Problem is you can see the persons chosen password
10:19 Jigal Fanty: if you send that password over the internet and not use a secure connection the visible password in the database is a minor problem.
10:21 Fanty Jigal: so you think, because typo3 arent using a secure connection by default there's no point in making desent password protection in typo3 default?
10:24 Jigal Fanty: well, that would be the least of my worries... I trust the admin and the sysadmin and if they protect the network and db well the chances of others seeing the database are very slim at least. Communications between webserver and database should be protected in this case, so the biggest problem is the communication from visitor to webserver.
10:25 Jigal Fanty: hashing/encrypting the password is easy, so it's a likely measure you would take. But not the biggest security risk to me.
10:27 Gero hi all! i just uploaded 4.1, and he's complaining about t3lib classes not found
10:27 Gero is it my faul, or packaging fault?
10:29 Fanty Jigal: I just think it should be hashed by default. No point in exposing the passwords accidently to the admins - especially since its so easy to do so. I personally don't even want to see them by accident - not that I would use them for anything. I just don't want to know peoples passwords at all.
10:36 installingondrea hello
10:37 installingondrea any dreamhost users around?
10:38 Denyerec no but i would love to know if it works
10:39 installingondrea im tryng to install the release 4.1
10:39 installingondrea already created under typo3conf the file typo3conf/ENABLE_INSTALL_TOOL
10:40 installingondrea but the installer still locked, any clues?
10:43 Denyerec what's the message you ge?
10:43 Denyerec get
10:45 installingondrea The Install Tool is locked.
10:45 installingondrea Fix: Create a file typo3conf/ENABLE_INSTALL_TOOL
10:45 installingondrea This file may simply be empty.
10:45 installingondrea For security reasons, it is highly recommended to rename
10:45 installingondrea or delete the file after the operation is finished.
10:46 installingondrea and on the root level:
10:46 installingondrea Forbidden
10:46 installingondrea You don't have permission to access /testdomain/ on this server.
10:46 installingondrea Additionally, a 404 Not Found error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request.
10:46 Denyerec Hmmm.
10:47 Denyerec I'm afraid you're going to need someone more knowledeable than me.
10:47 installingondrea lol, thanks anyway
10:47 Denyerec Can you confirm the ENABLE_INSTALL_TOOL file exists, is readable by everyone, and is spelt correctly ?
10:47 Denyerec I made a typo once (no pun intended) that caught me out for at least 2 hours!!
10:47 installingondrea yes its chmoded 755 and is spelled correctly
10:48 Denyerec and, dare I say it, in the right folder?
10:48 installingondrea yes on /typo3conf
10:50 installingondrea the dummy package must be on the root level yes?
10:50 installingondrea and the src package must be on: typo3_src-4.1
10:51 koomi installingondrea: just ls -l and you see if your symlinks point in the right direction
10:52 installingondrea lrwxrwxrwx 1 demos pg777 15 Mar 6 01:40 t3lib -> typo3_src/t3lib
10:52 installingondrea lrwxrwxrwx 1 demos pg777 15 Mar 6 01:40 typo3 -> typo3_src/typo3
10:52 installingondrea lrwxrwxrwx 1 demos pg777 16 Mar 6 01:40 typo3_src -> ../typo3_src-4.1
10:53 installingondrea so i think symlinks are working
10:54 koomi so you've got /typo3_src-4.1 /yourt3install ?
10:54 koomi if this is all unpacked on the rootlevel the typo3_src symlink should be wrong as it points to a directory one level up
10:55 installingondrea i just unpacked the dummy package on the rootlevel, the source package relays under typo3_src-4.1
10:57 installingondrea ls -al
10:57 Wurst hi
10:57 installingondrea total 7656
10:57 installingondrea drwxrwxr-x 7 demos pg777 4096 Mar 6 01:41 .
10:57 installingondrea drwxr-xr-x 5 demos pg777 4096 Mar 6 00:50 ..
10:57 installingondrea -rwxr-xr-x 1 demos pg777 7087 Mar 5 16:55 INSTALL.txt
10:57 installingondrea -rwxr-xr-x 1 demos pg777 7695 Mar 5 16:55 README.txt
10:57 installingondrea -rwxr-xr-x 1 demos pg777 425 Mar 5 16:55 RELEASE_NOTES.txt
10:57 installingondrea -rwxr-xr-x 1 demos pg777 5051 Mar 5 16:54 _.htaccess
10:57 installingondrea -rwxr-xr-x 1 demos pg777 46 Mar 5 16:54 clear.gif
10:57 installingondrea -rwxr-xr-x 1 demos pg777 9451 Mar 6 01:38 dummy-4.1.tar.gz
10:57 installingondrea drwxr-xr-x 4 demos pg777 4096 Mar 6 01:41 fileadmin
10:57 installingondrea lrwxrwxrwx 1 demos pg777 19 Mar 6 01:40 index.php -> typo3_src/index.php
10:57 installingondrea lrwxrwxrwx 1 demos pg777 15 Mar 6 01:40 t3lib -> typo3_src/t3lib
10:57 installingondrea lrwxrwxrwx 1 demos pg777 15 Mar 6 01:40 typo3 -> typo3_src/typo3
10:57 installingondrea lrwxrwxrwx 1 demos pg777 16 Mar 6 01:40 typo3_src -> ../typo3_src-4.1
10:57 installingondrea drwxr-xr-x 5 demos pg777 4096 Mar 5 16:55 typo3_src-4.1
10:57 installingondrea -rwxr-xr-x 1 demos pg777 7759173 Mar 6 01:24 typo3_src-4.1.tar.gz
10:57 installingondrea drwxr-xr-x 4 demos pg777 4096 Mar 6 02:10 typo3conf
10:57 installingondrea drwxr-xr-x 2 demos pg777 4096 Mar 6 01:41 typo3temp
10:58 installingondrea drwxr-xr-x 5 demos pg777 4096 Mar 6 01:41 uploads
10:58 Wurst some short questions golem announce something like a command line interface in the new 4.1 version of typo3
10:58 koomi installingondrea: please paste to phpfi.com (this might be considered spam and really breaks conversations)
10:58 installingondrea sorry
10:58 Gero hmm it might be the open_basedir
10:58 Wurst wher can i find that in the releases are nothing described about that feature
10:58 koomi installingondrea: see your mistake? typo3_src-4.1 is on the same level, symlink points one level up
10:58 Gero there is a four year old bug in it!! (unbelievable!)
10:59 Gero i had /var/../typo3_src-4.0 still in basedir, which also allows to open all 4.0*
10:59 Gero but with 4.1 it breaks
10:59 Gero hope you know what i mean :-9
11:00 installingondrea http://phpfi.com/213035
11:00 Denyerec tobi are you around ?
11:00 installingondrea @koomi so where do i need to put that file?
11:00 koomi rm typo3_src
11:00 koomi ln -s typo3_src-4.1 typo3_scr
11:02 Denyerec Can anyone tell me what I need to UNSET in TS to stop a text w/image image getting wrapped in the default markup?
11:02 Wurst does anyone something about the new command line feature in 4.1
11:02 Denyerec I presume Kasper does.
11:02 Denyerec :)
11:03 Wurst ??
11:03 Denyerec The guy who wrote it.
11:03 Wurst but in the release notes there is nothing about that
11:04 p33t Howdy!
11:04 p33t I nee to do the following:
11:04 p33t there is a page. for example http://example.com/mypage.html?foobar=
11:04 p33t There is TMENU on that page
11:04 p33t I need to add additional parameters to all TMENU items just the same -- foobar=<some_value>
11:04 p33t I know that I can add parameters with addParameters.
11:04 installingondrea @ koomi http://phpfi.com/213037
11:04 p33t How can I pass foobar GET variable to addParameters?
11:04 Wurst denyyerec: this strange swedish man who make this cms ?
11:04 Denyerec Yes :)
11:05 Wurst denyerec: my bosses asks me about that feature the read it on a lame site but in the relase notes of the new 4.1 i find nothing about that
11:05 Denyerec Install and play
11:05 koomi installingondrea: looks ok
11:05 Denyerec it'll prbably be some time before the docs catch up
11:06 installingondrea :S still not working
11:06 Wurst denyerec: i install that new version but i find nothing in this ridection
11:06 Denyerec Maybe it means shell cmdline ?
11:07 installingondrea duh! i had a typo mistake
11:07 installingondrea instead src i had scr lol
11:07 Denyerec TYPO3 4.1 features a command line interface through the system extension with the extension key "lowlevel"
11:07 Denyerec installingondrea - told you typos can have you going for hours :)
11:07 Denyerec Wurst - if you read the release notes it says its supported through the extension "lowlevel"
11:07 installingondrea lol!
11:08 Wurst denyerec: if i interpet it corect it must be using the typo from dem cmdline
11:08 Denyerec its supported through the extension "lowlevel"
11:08 Denyerec It mentions it in the release notes
11:08 Denyerec Soooo
11:08 Denyerec update your Ext Manager
11:08 Denyerec and install "lowlevel"
11:08 ndee hello there
11:08 Denyerec I dind't wanna do this....
11:08 Denyerec ...but...
11:08 Denyerec tobi tobi tobi tobi tobi tobi tobi tobi tobi tobi !
11:08 installingondrea thanks a lot for your help @koomi
11:09 Wurst denyreces: o i hvae that extension
11:09 koomi installingondrea: np
11:09 Denyerec Oh Wurst
11:09 Denyerec In which case I have no idea.
11:09 Denyerec Read the manual for the extension ?
11:10 Denyerec koomi is there a way to output something for debugging from the TS ?
11:10 Denyerec I'm writing some TS and I'd LOVE to get a debug look at it so I can see what is set.
11:10 koomi Denyerec: dunno. admPanel comes to mind
11:10 Denyerec only shows what got rendered really
11:11 Denyerec not what caused it to render that wya
11:11 Wurst denyreces: yes you are correct i overread it, it is only for cleaning some cahched files brrr
11:13 Denyerec INdee.d
11:13 Denyerec koomi - When I insert a text w/image, the image gets wrapped in all manner of markup.
11:13 Denyerec I would like for it to be just the image, inside the <a href>
11:13 Denyerec What controls that extra markup ?
11:14 koomi Denyerec: dunno :) see css_styled_content/*/setup.txt
11:15 installingondrea how can i enable CURL Support on typo3?
11:16 koomi installingondrea: enable it in php.ini and read the hints in the install tool
11:17 installingondrea i dont have access on php.ini and im not an advanced user to compile my own php... im on dreamhost
11:17 installingondrea without access to php.ini is not possible?
11:19 installingondrea oh... i found the answer!
11:19 installingondrea http://wiki.dreamhost.com/index.php/TYPO3
11:22 installingondrea [unzip_path] is required?
11:24 neostar hi
11:25 neostar are there any typo3 books you can recommend or do you think I'm better off with the online docs?
11:25 Denyerec I've only ever used the online stuff.
11:25 Denyerec koomi - do you use TV ?
11:26 neostar I'm looking for in depth training, with a minimum of button pushing excercises
11:26 Denyerec neostar - you'll have to pay for that I'm afraid.
11:26 neostar Denyerec: how would you rate your knowledge of TYPO3
11:26 Denyerec I don't think you can get indepth anything for free!
11:26 Denyerec Um.
11:26 neostar Denyerec: I'm totally ok with paying
11:27 neostar I just want to make sure I buy the right stuff
11:27 Denyerec I can use it, but I can't write complete formidable extensions and Typoscript irritates me to hell and back sometimes.
11:27 Denyerec like RIGHT NOW, http://wla.systemcms.com is very blank
11:27 Denyerec and I cannot for the life of me figure out why
11:27 Denyerec Jigal you about ?
11:27 neostar :-)
11:27 Denyerec I've done this 100 times
11:27 Denyerec And yet now... it is blank.
11:29 Fanty typo3.org down?
11:29 Denyerec Fanty, dunno. Do you use TV ?
11:29 Fanty Denyerec: yep
11:29 Denyerec I have uploaded my HTML, created some mappings and made it the template to use for my main page and all subpages
11:30 Denyerec yet I get this:
11:30 Denyerec like RIGHT NOW, http://wla.systemcms.com is very blank
11:30 Denyerec it's consuming everything inside the <body> tag
11:30 Fanty indeed
11:31 koomi Denyerec: jup.
11:32 Fanty Denyerec: what do you map to the body tag?
11:32 Denyerec the base object
11:32 koomi Denyerec: included css_styled_content static
11:32 Denyerec Yeah I have those koomi
11:32 Denyerec info tables and css_styled_content
11:32 koomi Denyerec: hmm.
11:34 Denyerec Yeah.
11:34 Denyerec "hmmM"
11:35 Fanty Denyerec: how does your DS XML look like?
11:35 Fanty what*
11:35 Denyerec pastecoding 1 mo
11:36 Denyerec http://wilcoding.xs4all.nl/Wilco/Pastecode/4286/showpaste.aspx
11:36 Denyerec There are not many mappings.
11:36 Denyerec Perhaps I should delete it completely and re-create it.
11:40 Fanty Denyerec: if you dont map anything besides the root element you should get the content of the body too
11:41 Denyerec Let me try
11:41 Fanty Denyerec: I'd try to go from there
11:42 Denyerec Mmm
11:42 Denyerec Fanty
11:42 Denyerec as soon as I map the body, it nukes everything in it.
11:44 Denyerec Ries ! Just in time :)
11:44 Fanty Denyerec: and you map root to body - and root is a CO?
11:44 Denyerec I map root to body
11:44 Denyerec root is th eonly thing showing
11:44 Denyerec it's CO
11:44 Denyerec and then BAM, it nukes everything inside <body>
11:45 Ries Hey guys
11:48 Denyerec Hey Ries. TV is eating my site :(
11:50 Fanty Denyerec: try to map a content field - and add some content
11:51 Denyerec I will.
11:52 Denyerec Hmm
11:52 Denyerec if I do not "set header parts" it seems to work
11:52 Denyerec as soon as I set a head part, *munch*
11:53 Denyerec Weird
11:54 Denyerec it was working, but then when I included a header part (my CSS) it ate the content.
11:54 Denyerec THEn when I removed the header part.... nothing.
11:54 Denyerec Content still gone.
11:54 Cy- Does anybody from here lives in Hannover?
11:54 Ries Denyerec: never use header parts unless you really have to
11:54 Ries Hey Cy!!!!
11:55 Cy Ries!!
11:55 Cy What's up!?
11:55 Denyerec Ries - you kinda really have to, because Typo does not include media="" attributes when you insert CSS files via TS
11:57 Ries liel I said, unless you have to ;)
12:00 ndee change the title of the channel, it's wrong :D
12:01 Cy ndee: what's wrong?
12:01 Cy the version?
12:01 Fanty Rich Text Editor (RTE)
12:01 Fanty X
12:01 Fanty Multiple RTEs with Microsoft Word-like icons, support for Win/IE and Mozilla/Firefox on all platforms; WYSIWYG editors are highly configurable -- buttons and CSS styles can be added and removed <-- 4.1 feature. Is this "the same" or does 4.1 provide a new version of the rte?
12:01 Fanty sorry for the empty lines
12:02 Cy ndee: ?
12:02 Ries Fanty: 4.1 provides htmlarea I think.. and the above applies
12:02 ndee Cy: 4.1 is released :D
12:03 ndee :D
12:03 Cy Okay ndee Changed now. Thanks for that
12:03 Ries Stable 4.1?!?!?!?!?!?
12:03 Fanty Ries: so did 4.0
12:04 ndee np :D
12:04 Cy http://typo3.org/news-single-view/?tx_newsimporter_pi1%5BshowItem%5D=0&cHash=e4a40a11a9#single
12:04 Cy Yeah Ries 4.1 Final
12:04 Cy :)
12:04 Fanty I've been pulling my hair out for days trying to extend the rte.. would be great if a new version was released now
12:07 pulponair hi there
12:07 pulponair what is the accepted way to resolve the abs. uploadfolder of a certain tca field?
12:10 Jigal pulponair: I wish I knew... haven't been able to extract it from within the extension :-( Finally hardcoded it to get things done.
12:10 pulponair Jigal: Path_typo3site.'uploads/xxx
12:10 pulponair but seems a little ugly to me
12:11 pulponair the relative path can be fetched from tca
12:11 Jigal pulponair: I set a different path, but can't read it from the extension code...
12:11 pulponair "PATH_site.$uploadFolder." is how t3 does it itself
12:11 pulponair Jigal: you cannt read the tca from within your extension?
12:12 Jigal pulponair: tried $TCA['tt_content']['columns']['eubmsconverter_dlfile']['config']['uploadfolder'], but it was empty
12:12 pulponair Jigal: wrong :)
12:12 Jigal pulponair: obviously :-(
12:13 pulponair Jigal: wait i got a snippet arround
12:13 pulponair $GLOBALS['TCA']['tx_myext']['columns']['file']['config']['uploadfolder']
12:13 pulponair Jigal: ^ that is how i do fetch it
12:15 Jigal oh no! $TCA hasn't become global by globalling it in the main() function of the extension; it's part of the class definition. Where did I find that stupid code?
12:17 Denyerec are there any Typo3 sIFR extensions ?
12:18 Jigal Denyerec: gb_sifr
12:18 Denyerec Danke
12:18 pulponair does t3 provides data sanitize functions for e.g. a filename?
12:20 Denyerec HURRAH
12:20 Denyerec http://wla.systemcms.com/index.php
12:20 Fanty can I safely use a value from GPvar() in a DB query?
12:22 pulponair Fanty: no
12:23 pulponair Fanty: you need to cast/sanitize it!
12:23 Jigal pulponair: t3lib_div::resolveBackPath to resolve ../ stuff; t3lib_div::removePrefixPathFromList() t3lib_div::split_fileref(); those???
12:23 pulponair Jigal: no i thought about replace leading dots and / etc
12:23 Denyerec MWhahahaha
12:24 Fanty pulponair: any functions exist to do so?
12:24 pulponair Fanty: depends....addslashes etc
12:25 Jigal Fanty: I think $GLOBALS['TYPO3_DB']->quoteStr()
12:27 Jigal hmmm that one uses only addslashes() ... evil ;-)
12:28 Fanty mkay, thanks
12:28 Jigal Fanty: best quote function in PHP is mysql_real_escape_string(), but it needs a db connection object
12:28 Ries Fanty: you ar enot suppose to use GPvar in your own extensions...
12:30 Jigal Ries: we were too late :-(
12:34 installingondrea exit
12:34 Ries to late for?
12:40 Ries Be warned that the update from 4.0.x to 4.1 will not work flawlessly
12:48 pulponair Ries: it did at least for my installations
12:48 pulponair Ries: hi, btw ,9
12:51 Ries pulponair: The page tree is on one installation incorrect
12:51 Ries and I noticed that teh update wizard doesn't add the tables needed voor de extension manager
12:52 pulponair Ries: right pagetree brocken on the installation i update recently
12:52 pulponair Ries: any hints?
12:55 Ries pulponair: what do you see?
12:55 pulponair ries: brocken li
12:55 Ries the tree expands all the way to the right?
12:55 pulponair ries: yes
12:55 pulponair ries: perhaps wrong dummy pgk
12:57 pulponair Ries: no
12:57 pulponair hmm
12:57 Ries let me make a screenshot
12:58 pulponair ries: works again
12:58 pulponair ries: heavy browser caching
12:58 Ries pulponair: http://www.rvantwisk.nl/fileadmin/images/pagetree.png
12:58 pulponair ries: i had to clear it by hand
12:58 pulponair ries: yes same over here
12:58 pulponair ries: fixed it by clearing the browser cache by hand
12:59 Ries let me try that
13:00 Ries Yup, you are right
13:00 pulponair ries: strange eh?
13:03 Jigal Ries: an email got my undevided attention ;-) ; we were too late to answer Fanty: he/she already left the channel before we could post a remark...
13:06 beev0r hey help!
13:06 beev0r i've got a problem
13:06 beev0r this is my pagetree http://manuelbieh.com/upload/pagetree.gif
13:07 beev0r now i need a navigation with the pages on level 0
13:07 beev0r (VCS. Das Unternehmen | Media Broadcasting | SpaceCom)
13:07 beev0r that's my typoscript http://phpfi.com/213084
13:07 beev0r but the output is empty
13:08 beev0r so what can i do?
13:09 neostar beev0r: have you checked that the starting page really has the id 0
13:10 beev0r yep
13:10 beev0r the globe (VCS AG) has the id 0
13:11 beev0r when i use 1 as special.value, i get "Unterseite 1" which is a subpage of "VCS. Das Unternehmen"
13:11 neostar well I would define a root page, put all content below it and traverse from there instead of using the globe
13:12 Boonkerz have rte an style size switch?
13:12 Boonkerz font size i mean
13:12 neostar beev0r: should be a matter of copy and paste to do that
13:15 beev0r yep. that's the way i was about to go
13:31 beev0r ewww
13:32 beev0r now my main menu stopped working
13:38 neostar beev0r: have you looked at modern template building tutorial?
13:38 beev0r templavoila?
13:39 neostar that would be futuristic template building
13:39 beev0r oh
13:40 neostar I suggest that you start there, the MTB tutorial and work your way up from there, it should give you a better understanding on how to structure your page
13:40 neostar http://typo3.org/documentation/document-library/tutorials/
13:42 pct Hello
13:42 pct I'm new (very new to typo3) and look for help.
13:43 pct And I'm also new to IRC... ;-)
13:43 neostar pct: have you watched the videos and worked through some of the tutorials?
13:44 pct I have typo3 installed on a Debian system
13:44 beev0r thx but it's not the first site i build using typo3 ;)
13:44 beev0r there's just sth. wrong in my typoscript
13:44 zatmania hope not the last ;)
13:44 beev0r and i dont know what
13:44 beev0r hehe
13:45 beev0r http://manuelbieh.com/upload/newpt.gif
13:45 zatmania http://zatmania.free.fr/img/php.jpg
13:45 pct I tried to look for docs on typo3.org site but obtained some errors (bad login / password)
13:45 beev0r that's my new page structure
13:45 beev0r the id of home is 5
13:45 Abraham Having problems with frontend preview in custom workspace. It dosent seem to work - any ideas?
13:47 beev0r and i want typoscript to show the subpages on the particular main pages
13:47 pct neostar: could you tell me which of tutorial to read. Is there a "You first site with typo3" ?
13:47 neostar beev0r: well I thought more of something like this to get it working http://typo3.org/typo3temp/tx_terdoc/documentscache/d/o/doc_tut_templselect-0.1.0/docbook/pictures/10000000000000F70000011A97B01D46.png
13:47 beev0r so "Unterseite 1" and "Subpage 2" are supposed to show up when "VCS. Das Unternehmen" is selected
13:47 beev0r so whats wrong!? http://phpfi.com/213094
13:48 neostar pct: I would start with a local test installation
13:48 neostar pct: http://typo3.org/documentation/
13:48 neostar pct: should be accessible from within your browser
13:48 pct neostar: Installation works fine for me
13:48 neostar pct: plus the videos http://typo3.org/documentation/videos/
13:49 neostar pct: should get you started
13:49 pct neostar: Ok. I'm going to sea those videos and come back later.
13:49 pct AFK
13:49 neostar pct: though I would suggest reading the docs firs
13:49 neostar t
13:55 nevwork guys, i have a prob with gst_topcontent, i only see 100 results, even if there are 149 pages (they look exactly the same in the backend...)
13:55 nevwork gst_topcontent 1.2.1, typo3 3.8.1
13:56 nutcase_ what do i have to do if i want to install typo3_src global (e.g. in /usr/lib/typo3/typo3_src-4.1)
13:57 drindt i want do hide the entry "show page on login" for a single be user is that possible with tceforms?
13:57 nevwork link all your webs there
13:57 nevwork ln -s ...
13:57 nevwork thats under nix
13:58 nutcase_ ln -s /var/lib/typo3/typo3_src-4.1/ typo3_src and chown doesn't work chown'ed the link
13:59 nevwork well, you might want to mentoin that youre doing from chrooting;)
14:05 aempi hi there, i installed typo3 first w/o graphicsmagick, and deleted the installation folder yesterday . Now i want to install graphicsmagicks afterwards, and in a german tutorial for the installation is a hint that i have to set the path to the binary under "basic configuration" in the "install tool" which isnt existing on my server anymore :(
14:06 aempi any ideas?
14:08 neostar just put the folder back in there
14:10 ndee hello there, http://suzukiv2.autoglobal.ch/news.html?L=1 <-- the date description is still english although I installed csh_fr, where does tt_news get the info for that description?
14:11 zatmania you need to do it with ts
14:12 zatmania strftimeproperties
14:12 zatmania strftime properties
14:12 zatmania read the doc
14:13 nutcase_ nevwork: no it's not chrooted
14:13 zatmania ndee : http://hashbin.com/2d3.html
14:13 ndee zatmania: cool, gonna look it up
14:13 ndee thx
14:14 ndee zatmania: does that also include the translation to other languages?
14:15 marc| ndee: http://phpfi.com/213107
14:15 ndee marc|: perfect :D
14:21 ndee hm, the format is correct but just the translations are missing.
14:26 drindt someone can please take a look on my short TSCONFIG and show why it not work when its placed into be_users TSCONFIG? it should disable under pages the 2 entrys in the menue to choose between "show on login" and "hide on login" here are the lines: http://rafb.net/p/Znt8Qd66.html
14:27 beev0r hey, doesnt typo3 4.1 support <include_typoscript: source="file: uploads/typoscript.txt"> any longer?
14:51 brosment Hi everybody. Please, tell me, how to add new paragraph styles in rtehtmlarea. I use "RTE. classes" for CSS and RTE.default.proc.allowedClasses" and "RTE.default.classesParagraph" in Template TS Setup. But no effect. What is wrong?
15:04 aempi hi, i've got still problems installing GraphicsMagick on my Webspace, safe_mode is off, and i copied the binary(actually i tried 2 versions) in my cgi-bin folder, but Typo isn't able to see it. Is there a common mistake that i could have made?
15:05 aempi i'am pretty sure that i wrote down the right path in the installation tool, but i just get the error "No ImageMagick install available" :(
15:11 aempi ?
15:17 aempi is there a way to force typo to use this binary? possibly hardcoded? :D
15:19 brosment Please, tell me, how to add new paragraph styles in rtehtmlarea. I use "RTE. classes" for CSS and RTE.default.proc.allowedClasses" and "RTE.default.classesParagraph" in Template TS Setup. But no effect. What is wrong?
15:25 buliwyf re
15:41 gilas hello
15:42 gilas 040404hello
15:48 Wurst hi
15:49 Wurst does anyone know sommething about the pdf_export plugin ?
15:49 aempi okay, another more basic question, i installed typo3 successfully installed the lz_gallery but it shows no thumbnails but the pictures in their full size, which gallery extension should i use when i just want a gallery that takes pictures from a ftp folder, shows them in thumbnails and shows me the big version when i click on them.
15:49 aempi which should i use?
15:55 zat[FarFarAway] bye
16:25 FloLeBlanc can someone tell me how to get the username of logged users in php plz?
16:28 tobi should be in $GLOBALS['TSFE']->fe_user[user][username]
16:29 FloLeBlanc is the id also available?
16:29 tobi hm should also be in there
16:30 FloLeBlanc k thx
16:32 buliwyf how do i get rid of the "Reference Index table " message in fresh installation?
16:32 buliwyf i did update the reference table in teh menue
16:39 FloLeBlanc hmm can't seem to access [user] print_r does work on $GLOBALS['TSFE']->fe_user but I can't see what I need before user :) is there any prettier print than print_r?
16:41 tobi var_dump and look at the source code
16:41 FloLeBlanc nvm found it :)
16:41 FloLeBlanc $GLOBALS['TSFE']->fe_user->user["username"];
16:46 eeos hi there.
16:46 eeos in typo3 table, what does uid stand for? is it the id of the page or the id of the record?
17:06 pond anyone know where the code that generates the sql for the TS "select ... renderObj" lies in the stlib?
17:07 uschi hi all :)
17:07 koomi hey uschi
17:08 uschi hi koomi :))
17:08 killefiz does anyone have an idea what could be the reason for this?: Warning: Missing argument 7 for t3lib_TCEmain::copyRecord_procBasedOnFieldType() ...
17:09 uschi that there is a php function that wants to have 7 parameters and parameter 7 is not passed to it
17:09 killefiz ;)
17:09 killefiz i get it when I choose "copy for translation" in a pretty standard 4.1 install
17:12 uschi Denyerec?
17:12 uschi are you there?
17:13 Boonkerz hi uschi
17:13 uschi tach Boonkerz :)
17:15 Boonkerz query
17:15 Boonkerz :D
17:20 Boonkerz anyone now who makes the pictures for the login screen?
17:30 eeos anyone who has installed the new 4.1? is it good?
17:41 killefiz eeos: except for the translation related issue above I am very happy with 4.1
18:04 burzum how do i upgrade from 4.0.2 to 4.1?
18:04 burzum is it possible?
18:14 uschi hm, Denyerec does not seem to be alive
19:08 Hammy hello guys, i try to install typo3 on a apache with vhosts, does anybody know how i have to handle this?
19:09 koomi there are domain records for different hosts
19:09 koomi but don't ask me how typo3 does it
19:10 Hammy is here someone, who has experience with typo3 installations on a vhcs2 system?
19:17 Denyerec uschi
19:17 Denyerec I'm back
19:17 Denyerec I was taking photos.
19:17 koomi show them to us de
19:17 koomi Denyerec
19:17 uschi hi, i found something out about our little problem :)
19:17 uschi read the tv-newsgroup
19:18 Denyerec Oh, they're timelapse photos of some special tea
19:18 Denyerec so when I have made the timelapse sequence, I shall.
19:18 uschi I am not into typo tonight, have to do stuff for university
19:19 Denyerec Ah OK uschi
19:19 Denyerec I shall download my mail
19:20 uschi ok, and i somehow even understood what to do
19:28 Denyerec uschi what name do you post under ?
19:28 uschi Uschi Renziehausen
19:29 Denyerec OKie
19:31 Denyerec uschi sorry to be a pest, but I don't see the thread :/
19:31 Denyerec Which list was it sent to ?
19:32 Denyerec Ohh ignore me
19:32 uschi the tv list
19:32 Denyerec "Search"
19:32 Denyerec :)
19:34 Denyerec Ohh I see
19:34 Denyerec so you ditch the normal TV COA
19:34 Denyerec make your own and make lib stdheader the top entry
19:35 Denyerec cunning!
19:44 oliver Hello everybody !
19:46 oliver Has anyone problem using TemplaVoila V1.3.0 ??
19:57 los-lucas hi
19:58 los-lucas do you know how to make your plugins FE searchable?
20:22 johnd0e hi everyone
20:57 los-lucas hi johnd0e
21:01 los-lucas I can't make the damn Indexed Search working
21:01 los-lucas there's no "indexing configuration" record type available
21:08 los-lucas this thing just doesn't work
21:09 los-lucas I following the documentation step by step, and it doesn't work : /
21:42 irzyxel was the default admin password changed in 4.1 ??
21:52 Denyerec Sure is quiet in #tpo3
21:54 irzyxel hush
22:02 Denyerec Tsk, i was making a funny
23:06 strophy evening.. im having problems with the new page tree, i unpacked the 4.1 source on top of the 4.0.2 winstaller folder. that should do it, right?
23:06 strophy the tree displays with weird boxes and circles on the left and takes up a lot of space in general
23:44 Ries strophy: clear your browsers cache
23:44 Ries You are the third already today :)
23:45 strophy hehe
23:46 strophy awesomeness, thanks
23:46 strophy should i put that on the miniscule 4.1 wiki? i did look there first, to my credit
23:59 bedlamhotel Anybody remember the name of the file that can be placed in /typo3conf to enable install tool by default?

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