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00:02 bedlamhotel Never mind:
00:02 bedlamhotel "The Install Tool is locked.
00:02 bedlamhotel Fix: Create a file typo3conf/ENABLE_INSTALL_TOOL"
00:52 Denyerec What are the things to watch out for when trying to internationalise a site?
00:52 Denyerec I'm about to start a new build, and want to make sure i don't screw up and accidentally make it impossible to translate!!
01:37 Jon_yoosic Has much changed in the last year about TemplaViola?
01:40 Denyerec Hmm
01:40 Denyerec Fewer bugs I think ?
01:40 Denyerec I don't use it deeply enough
01:44 Jon_yoosic Ok. I'm starting a new site from scratch and have a little more time with it than usual so I'm thinking about using TV this time
01:54 gerards hey Denyerec. hows your i18n going?
02:17 [CAVE] is it possible to get the realurl extension working with a typo3 install that is using postgresql?
02:52 Denyerec gerards - it's not.
02:53 Denyerec I'm obsessing about doing it right!
02:54 Denyerec gerards do you know a good i18n tutorial for Typo ?
02:54 gerards not
02:54 gerards nope
02:55 Denyerec Hmm.
02:55 gerards kasper's front end localization guide.
02:55 Denyerec wonder what this is
02:55 Denyerec http://typo3.org/extensions/repository/view/gt_typo3_localization/0.2.1/
03:00 Denyerec AH
03:00 Denyerec gerards
03:00 gerards ?
03:01 Denyerec there is a lengthy podcast all about localisation
03:01 Denyerec "Localise your site bob"
03:01 Denyerec it is 1 hourlong.
03:03 gerards whew
03:08 Denyerec gerards do you check the maillinglists?
03:08 gerards :)
03:08 gerards you asked me before.
03:08 gerards i haven't read them for sometime.
03:09 gerards no one answered your post yet Denyerec?
03:10 Denyerec ah
03:10 Denyerec sorry my memory is really bad
03:10 Denyerec Googlemail is showing my submissions twice
03:10 gerards mine too.
03:10 gerards getting old...
03:10 Denyerec I don't know if it's Googlemail's interface
03:10 Denyerec or the setup posting twice.
03:10 gerards hmm.... weird.
03:10 Denyerec I have a suspicion GMail is saving my outgoing in the "conversation", as well as collecting the incoming mail.
03:10 Denyerec So it's seeing the outgoing msg and the incoming copy of it
03:12 gerards yeah google does thngs weird so far.
03:12 gerards so far = sometimes.
03:12 gerards its part of their "google knows best" philosophy.
03:16 Ries Denyerec: I think google's mail interface kinda sucks
03:16 Denyerec Thankyou!
03:16 Ries The intentions are good, but not everuthing is searchable..
03:16 Denyerec Oh man, I was arguing with someone about it earlier
03:16 Denyerec who would hear nothing bad abou tit.
03:16 gerards i like gmails interface....
03:16 Ries with gmail I cannot manage large amonths of mail well
03:17 Denyerec Ries - localisation - what's the most important thing to NOT do if you wanna localise a site?
03:18 gerards i really can't think of any huge sin in l10n.
03:19 Denyerec What about inserting strings in the TS Setup ?
03:19 Denyerec That would be bad?
03:19 gerards but you can do a localization there too right?
03:19 Denyerec You can ?
03:19 gerards in your TV template will be hard.
03:20 Denyerec if I do this:
03:20 Denyerec temp.10 = TEXT
03:20 Denyerec temp.10.value = I like chicken!
03:20 gerards Denyerec: i think so. even if you can't, you can just do a conditional according to the L variable.
03:20 Denyerec tv.whatILike < temp.10
03:21 Denyerec Then when I translate the site, that little TSOP is going to be in English.
03:21 gerards Denyerec: no i meant strings in the TV template file itself. (but no one ever does that.)
03:21 Denyerec Oh you mean like HTML that's not mapped out ?
03:21 gerards yeah.
03:21 Denyerec for example a <h1> or something
03:21 Denyerec HAhaha
03:21 Denyerec I do that *all* the time
03:21 gerards oh....
03:21 gerards ;)
03:21 Denyerec Cos I don't know a beter way
03:21 Denyerec EG if I have a <h1> in the <div id="header"> of my site
03:22 Denyerec I don't know how I should map it
03:22 gerards yeah. also in images with text in them.
03:22 Denyerec How would you map a site header gerards ?
03:22 gerards i'd TSOP it.
03:22 Denyerec and what would you insert into the TSOP ?
03:23 gerards TEXT object.
03:23 Denyerec And how would you translate that? :)
03:23 gerards the clumsy way.
03:23 Denyerec hehehe
03:23 gerards the [GPvar:L = 1]
03:23 Denyerec it would be nice if you could do: 10.value = i18n{"This is my string"}
03:23 gerards gosh. its been so long since i programmed ts. i hope my conditional syntax is right.
03:24 Denyerec it looks OK :)
03:24 Denyerec So you're at LEAST halfway there
03:25 gerards all not huge sins. all solveable Denyerec.
03:25 Denyerec Yes but you know... I would like to solve them the right way
03:25 Denyerec :)
03:26 Denyerec Maybe Kasper tells me in the podcast
03:26 Denyerec I will watch it tomorrow morning.
03:26 Denyerec OHH!
03:26 Denyerec There was one thing.
03:26 Denyerec OK gerards you might know the answer
03:26 Denyerec Imagine you have a page ID 34
03:26 Denyerec and on it a content element of type text w/image ID 55
03:26 Denyerec now lets say you want to extract JUST the images from page 34, and insert them into a TSOP.
03:26 Denyerec I have this so far:
03:27 gerards a RECORD should do it.
03:27 Denyerec http://wilcoding.xs4all.nl/Wilco/Pastecode/4291/showpaste.aspx
03:27 Denyerec Now the problem is...
03:27 Denyerec The images are coming in OK
03:28 Denyerec but they're coming in wrapped in all kinds of weird markup from the css_styled_content thing
03:28 Denyerec so my question is, how do I strip that off, and add only the <a href=""> around the image ?
03:28 gerards ah... :)
03:28 Denyerec Or, half a solution, how do I see WTF is happening :)
03:28 Denyerec so I can then figure it out.
03:28 gerards i guess you have to look into tt_content.image.20
03:28 Denyerec right now I'm flying blind
03:29 gerards chances are it references something in lib.xxxx
03:29 gerards probably a parseHTML involved too.
03:29 gerards might need to get rid of some of those things.
03:30 gerards but most of the time Denyerec, i find that all i need to do is wrap the entire thing in one class="my-class",
03:30 gerards and then just remove all teh styleing and layout via css.
03:30 Denyerec Ahh yes
03:30 Denyerec that is one solution.
03:30 Denyerec BUT
03:31 Denyerec That is not the solution I want.
03:31 Denyerec :)
03:31 gerards i'd hate to read through all the typoscript created by css_styled_content.
03:31 Denyerec You should be getting to know by now gerards that I do not sleep until it's done "my way"
03:31 Denyerec I started earlier.
03:31 Denyerec It's "A lot"
03:31 gerards its a heck of A LOT of ts.
03:32 gerards so i just wrap it in a class.
03:32 gerards its what css is for.
03:33 Denyerec Hehehe
03:33 Denyerec It doesn't help me understand how things fit together though.
03:33 Denyerec What I'd love, is a more complete TS analyser
03:33 Denyerec one that you can point at anything in your TS and get a full debug output in
03:34 Denyerec so you can see exactly where all the wraps, stdWraps and stuff come from
03:34 gerards i totally agree. like a "Explain TS" button.
03:34 Denyerec Cos I can shove something in a TSOP
03:34 Denyerec and it can have a LOT of TS inherited from somewhere
03:34 Denyerec and I have just no ide.a
03:34 gerards well reading ts from css_styled_content makes you a better person.
03:34 gerards i think...
03:34 Denyerec Hahaha
03:34 Denyerec Better.... or more deranged.
03:34 gerards it makes you appreciate life better.
03:35 Denyerec It's one or the other.
03:35 Denyerec :)
03:35 gerards scotch tastes better.
03:35 gerards girlfriend looks prettier.
03:35 gerards money more precious.
03:36 gerards you can say to yourself, "it can't be as bad as sifting through 200 lines of TS."
03:37 Denyerec See I can look at the TS analyser
03:37 Denyerec and see my TSOP
03:37 Denyerec and see a whole stack of shit
03:37 Denyerec but NOTHING I can seemingly trace back to css_styled_content
03:38 gerards you used tt_content.image.20 in your render object.
03:38 gerards that uses some presets from css_styled_content.
03:40 Denyerec Ooh you're dead right
03:40 Denyerec it's 0340 hrs
03:40 Denyerec forgive me
03:40 Denyerec :)
03:40 gerards you are forgiven.
03:41 gerards go and sin no more.
03:42 Denyerec Hmm
03:42 Denyerec Well looking at image.20 in the analyser doesn't really show me where the markup is coming from
03:42 Denyerec the std Wrap is pretty dull
03:42 Denyerec stdWrap]
03:42 Denyerec [prefixComment]=2 | Image block:
03:43 gerards try fooling around there.
03:43 gerards do a image.20 >
03:43 gerards see what happens.
03:44 Denyerec I lose the link set on the image
03:44 Denyerec I know that for sure
03:44 Denyerec cos I used < image.20 to GET the link working :)
03:44 Denyerec well, Tobi did
03:44 gerards i can't really remember, but i suspect there might be a parseHTML messing around with your markup too (not just stdwrap)
03:47 Denyerec Mmm
03:47 Denyerec well I don't see it in the analyser.
03:47 Denyerec Would I expect to ?
03:47 gerards well then i'm wrong.
03:47 gerards it happens occasionally.
03:58 gerards Denyerec: did you check image.20.1.imageLinkWrap?
03:58 gerards lots of rubbish there...
03:59 Denyerec Nothing that looks like markup though
04:00 gerards maybe template analyzer is better.
04:00 Denyerec Mmm
04:03 Denyerec This I do not get: stdWrap.prefixComment = 2 | Image block:
04:03 Denyerec DOn't understand what Image block: is
04:03 Denyerec whether it's just a string
04:03 Denyerec or some comman
04:03 Denyerec d
04:04 gerards i wouldn't know...
04:05 gerards Denyerec: i forget. page content id=54 is a text w/image?
04:11 Denyerec yeha
04:11 Denyerec lots of places this gets set in TS
04:11 Denyerec so I am unsetting them all until it works
04:12 gerards i see something interesting.
04:12 gerards there is a TLO called rendering.dl
04:12 gerards its defined in EXT:css_styled_content/static/
04:12 gerards you can see it in Template Analyzer.
04:12 gerards i just don't know how its used.
04:32 Denyerec Gnnngh
04:32 Denyerec so close!
04:33 Denyerec Yes
04:33 Denyerec I'm trying to replace the rendering thing right now
04:33 Denyerec it contains all the problem wrappings!
04:35 gerards does it work?
04:36 gerards how? is it the rendering.dl object?
04:37 Denyerec PAZZAM SHAZZAM
04:37 Denyerec I win
04:37 Denyerec http://wla.systemcms.com
04:37 Denyerec sponsors on the right
04:38 gerards yeah but theoretically "rendering.dl" shouldn't work
04:38 gerards did you use that method?
04:38 Denyerec http://wla.systemcms.com/index.php?id=4
04:38 Denyerec They're the CE's from here
04:40 gerards sweet. the dl and dt and dds are removed.
04:40 Denyerec yeah
04:40 Denyerec pastecode coming up
04:40 Denyerec http://wilcoding.xs4all.nl/Wilco/Pastecode/4292/showpaste.aspx
04:41 Denyerec NOW I can sleep
04:41 Denyerec Gnight :)
04:41 gerards that REALLY shouldn't have worked.
04:41 gerards night.
04:44 Denyerec why should it not work ?
04:44 Denyerec the rendering wraps were all right there
04:44 Denyerec So I just shot them
04:44 Denyerec :)
04:46 gerards because according to the template analyzer,
04:46 gerards all the rendering.dl and stuff are all under the conditional
04:46 gerards [compatVersion = 3.9.0]
04:47 Denyerec ahhh yeah I saw that too
04:47 Denyerec then I checked my typo install
04:47 Denyerec NOT in 3.x compat mode
04:47 Denyerec which was just weird
04:47 gerards yeah.
04:47 Denyerec So I guess we need to ask someone who knows
04:47 gerards the TS in that branch shouldn't have been parsed at all....
04:47 Denyerec Indeed
04:47 Denyerec Remember that for me gerards
04:47 gerards well its time you slept.
04:47 Denyerec cos I will forget to ask
04:48 Denyerec :)
04:48 Denyerec gniught!
04:48 gerards g'nite
06:02 FloLeBlanc hi all
06:58 Jigal hi all
07:11 Fanty morning
07:19 zatmania hi
07:19 Jigal morning Fanty
07:19 zatmania hi Jigal, Fanty, tobi & others of course
07:20 Jigal hi zatmania, tobi, others of course (strange nick BTW)
07:20 zatmania lol
07:29 Fanty besides links being bold, where can I go to see something new and shiny in 4.1? ;)
07:30 others_of_course hi @ #typo3
07:31 others_of_course ;)
07:35 Fanty ok.. I've found something new but not so shiny... FE users cant login anymore
07:35 Jigal marc| : LOL
07:36 Jigal Fanty: isn't it a big improvement changing the links to bold?
07:37 Fanty Jigal: I didn't mean to sound like it wasen't! I'd already found that change tough and was looking for something else :P
07:38 Jigal Fanty: don't take me too seriously all the time :-D
07:39 Fanty Jigal: I aint ;)
07:47 Fanty writing the IRRE as a diploma thesis gotta be a nice move towards getting a neat job afterwards :)
07:50 Fanty but ok, so is the "member of the TYPO3 core dev team" in the CV
08:28 koomi moin
08:43 just2b good morning
08:48 zatmania hi just2b
08:49 just2b hi zatmania
09:39 webdev hallo zusammen
09:48 webdev hi everyone
09:49 webdev how can I take advantage of the innodb performance boost
09:49 webdev the update wizard and the database tool didn't change anythi9ng
09:49 webdev about the innodb
10:08 floxx is there a possibility to change the appeaance of the backend login screen?
10:11 just2b floxx, yes, just install e.g. the grey2 skin and chnage the ts
10:12 just2b -ts + css
10:12 floxx juts2b: it's a must to install another skin?
10:14 just2b can't answer that because this is my default skin, but normally no... loook at the stylesheet_post.css
10:16 floxx just2b: ok thanks
10:41 webdev nobody already tested the innodb advantages
10:50 pulponair hi there
10:51 pulponair is there an easy way to get a "pid"-where clause for several tables?
10:51 pulponair i.e. i got a join over 3 tables and do not want to build it myseld (the pid where clause)
11:06 koomi pulponair: not sure what you mean
11:08 pulponair koomi: usinf execSelectQuery in common with cObj->enablefields prevents me from using table aliases. So adding a pid where clause becomes a annoying thing :)
11:11 aempi hi, i created a basic page with typo3 using templavoila, and now i want to customize the behaviour of a gallery but when i create a template for the gallery page and try to modify something there, nothing happens in my gallery. Is there some conflict with TemplaVoila? Does TemplaVoila overrides settings i make in a local template?
11:11 koomi pulponair: ok. you've lost me around execSelectQuery :)
11:27 Irix tt_news problem.. setting up the language to another...when I set the config.language it works but the dates is still in english even if I have set the system (locale -a) of another language.. what could be the problem ?
11:32 marc| Irix: maybe this helps you http://phpfi.com/213107
11:44 Irix marc| thank you... :) I will look into it :)
12:11 careyo hello -- anyone know anything about TYPO3 and headers? I have some code that generates a PDF and works fine alone inside it's own php file... but inside a simple TYPO3 frontend plugin the exact same code will only generate the PDF once or twice, after that I believe the browser is confused from some headers that TYPO3 sends and it breaks the page (you get passed index.php which is some mutated pdf file with browser headers at the top that confuses the browser)
12:11 Fanty man.. 4 hours of meetings is rough
12:12 careyo demonstrated here: http://carey.ath.cx/pdf.html
12:13 careyo is this weird, or what?
12:14 careyo i can't think of any reason besides HTTP headers, but my knowledge is limited here
12:14 careyo typo3 is doing something
12:18 Fanty anyone have any clue to if and how it would be possible to press "print screen" and then, in a html(javascript/activex?) form, pressing ctrl+v to paste it into an upload file field / showing the picture at the same time?
12:22 careyo i'd be surprised if that was possible using javascript fanty... print screen putting the image into a clipboard is an OS thing (Linux/Mac don't do it as far as I know)... and I don't think you'd have access to it anyway
12:22 careyo but i am just guessing.
12:23 Jigal careyo: for anything dynamically generated that is not HTML I would link to the php script directly. Some extensions also include download script which handle the download outside the TYPO3 framework.
12:30 Fanty hmm.. why does my EM puke now -- after updating to 4.1 ; Warning: mysql_free_result(): supplied argument is not a valid MySQL result resource in /var/www/typo3_src-4.1/t3lib/class.t3lib_db.php
12:31 Fanty it makes like 30 of those
12:32 careyo Jigal: I see, so I guess there isn't any way around this? Just I am using all the TYPO3_DB calls and other TYPO3 functions throughout the script, I can rewrite those, but if there was a way around it I'd prefer it of course :). I'd also love to know the technical reason behind it for curiosity sakes.
12:33 Jigal Fanty: the Print Screen key puts (raw) image data on the clipboard. Not really a type of data you upload using an HTML form. Although there are many articles on Javascript and Clipboard on the web, the ones I found handle text or XML data. The only solution I see is to build an application in e.g. Flash or Java that can read image data from the clipboard and format it as an image file and consequently send it to the web server...
12:34 careyo Fanty: I got those errors too when I removed some extensions from my server manually (rm -rf)
12:35 Fanty careyo: you have any idea how to fix it?
12:35 Jigal Fanty: My EM's puke like hell for some time. I haven't had the time to analyse it properly, but it seems to have something to do with the routine that checks the fields in various tables and later compares them with the sql definitions in the extension.
12:37 Jigal careyo: see if you can find an extension that produces something else then plain HTML. If it does so via the TYPO3 framework you have your solution...
12:37 careyo Jigal: that's actually a good idea, I think the "partner" extension has a "formatAsPdf()" function that uses the typo3 fpdf extension.... I'ma go check that out now :)
12:38 careyo Fanty: I fixed it by nuking my database and starting again (it was only a test site). That's no help at all, I know ;-)
12:39 careyo Fanty: maybe try typo3 users mailing list ?
12:41 Jigal careyo: so it seems that updates to the db performed while installing a plugin somehow caused a db structure that lead to those warnings?
12:42 Fanty careyo: nuking the database is _not_ an option - I have well over 300 pages :)
12:44 Fanty Jigal: your EM started puking before 4.1?
12:45 Jigal Fanty: this one is still 3.8.1 and 'puked' without upgrading.
12:47 Fanty I've cloned the typo3 installation of the "live" typo3 site the content editors work on to my machine to try upgrading / do dev stuff- might have been because of this copying I'm getting my errors then and not the upgrade
12:50 Fanty nope.. happens as soon as I swap the source
13:01 mikhas Is it okay if I just come out here and ask a question? ...sorry, couldn't resist ^_^
13:01 mikhas ;)
13:02 mikhas anyone having the same love/hate-relationship to templavoila as me?
13:06 Denyerec yeah
13:06 Denyerec uschi_ and I
13:07 Fanty Am I updating typo3 in a wrong way? I've made a symlink to the typo3_src-4.1 named typo3_src replacing the old one pointing to typo_src-4.0.4. I've gone to mysite/typo3 and entered the install tool and I've ran the update wizard once
13:07 Fanty Isen't that it?
13:07 mikhas I wish some stuff were simpler. I'd like to copy a template so I can just mess with it, but I don't know how to copy both the DS/TO in one step. :-P
13:08 mikhas Fanty: that's it, maybe database compare -> update too.
13:10 Fanty mikhas: ahh.. thanks. The database compare is a must.. it does a TON of things
13:10 mikhas hmm, I ran templavoila 0.4.0... the latestone is 1.3.0..
13:10 Fanty and it stopped my EM's puking
13:11 Fanty mikhas: 1.3.0? the one in TER is 1.1.1 isent it?
13:12 mikhas unsure, this is an upgraded site from 3.8.0
13:12 mikhas that's why the templavoila was old
13:12 Fanty I'm using 1.1.1 and the one I get from TER is 1.1.1 too
13:16 Fanty or.. hmm.. when I click it and view details it says 1.3.0... Shouldn't the version be the current newest version in TER and the curr. version be the current version of the installed extension?
13:20 mikhas nevertheless, i still haven't figured out how to copy a template (DS+TO). crap. to the manual
13:21 careyo typo3.org is down?
13:21 careyo nope
13:21 Fanty TER seems to be out of order
13:23 buliwyf how do i get rid of the "Reference Index table " message after a fresh installation?
13:23 buliwyf i did update the reference table in teh menue
13:25 Fanty anyone able to download the TV 1.3.0 from TER?
13:25 Fanty I get a MD5() checksum error
13:32 mikhas Fanty : I just updated it from TER, it worked for me.
13:32 Fanty Extension import results
13:32 Fanty Error: The datatransfer did not succeed. Error: MD5 hash of downloaded file not as expected:
13:32 Fanty 90222f679f826f57cf3a73b79c410d61 !=
13:34 Fanty *grr*
13:35 Fanty guess I'll just manually download the T3X files and do it that way...
13:36 mikhas you could try a specific server and see if that helps.
13:44 careyo lol, ok, this is how tx_partner solves the problem: <a href="../../../../typo3/../typo3temp/tx_partner/partner_2007-03-08_00-43-40.pdf" target="_blank">Download</a> (3.1 K)
13:44 careyo it saves it as a file in typo3temp, then gives a link, rather than directly outputting it to the browser
13:44 careyo which i guess is ok
13:44 careyo typo3temp files might get massive after a while though
13:44 careyo can they be cleared automatically somehow?
13:47 Fanty make a cron that checks the age of a file.. if older than x then remove it :)
13:51 Jigal careyo: I used that method with typo3temp too in one extension to cache and XML file ;-) It would only generate a couple of different XMLs per year, so no problem for the next century or so.
13:53 Jigal careyo: you can also make a maintenance routine in the function that generates the PDF. Use a random number to make a 1 in x chance to cleanup the typo3temp directory...
13:56 careyo Jigal: yep I think i'll go with that, i'll cleanup the files in my code, ~10mb a day is going to get too big pretty quickly :)
14:14 Fanty careyo: just be carefull you dont end up with a system that cleans up files people are using (ie downloading)
14:27 uschi Hi folks
14:35 uschi Denyerec ?
14:35 uschi Today I hate TV
14:36 King76 Hi
14:36 King76 I search expert with if.isTrue ;)
14:39 uschi King76, then I am not the one you are looking for
14:39 Fanty What's the function I need to use to generate WHERE conditions when making a manual select from for example "fe_users" to be sure not to select a user thats disabled for whatever reason?
14:39 King76 lol, thank you ;)
14:40 tobi King76 i can try
14:42 King76 ok.. so excuse me for my bad english...i'm french ;) I use Templavoila FCE with a field of type LINK..
14:42 King76 So this is my code :
14:42 King76 10 = TEXT10.typolink.parameter.current = 1
14:43 King76 oups
14:43 King76 10 = TEXT
14:43 King76 10.typolink.parameter.current = 1
14:44 King76 XML record form my DS
14:44 King76 I don't want show link, but X, so I add : 10.value = X
14:46 King76 now, I don't want show X when user not select value in field LINK
14:46 King76 You understand ?
14:46 tobi yes
14:46 tobi 10.if.isTrue.field=field_link
14:47 King76 re
14:47 tobi 10.if.isTrue.field=field_link King76, where field_link is the name of your linkfield
14:48 King76 ok, let me testing that ;) I come back.. thk
14:49 j0hndeere Good morning, humans.
14:49 mirco_ tobi: Hi hi, I've just sent you a mail, pls have a look...
14:55 aempi hi, i want to customize the lz_gallery
14:55 aempi and there ist one very long line of code with css: plugin.tx_lzgallery_pi1_simple._CSS_DEFAULT_STYLE = ....
14:55 aempi how can i source that out into a different file?
14:56 aempi format everything in the small typoscript window is very ineffective i think :/
15:11 uschi oh please help me, it is driving me mad
15:11 uschi i have a tv template (page)
15:11 uschi in the preview everything looks fine
15:12 uschi but in the frontend i do not see a special part of the template
15:12 uschi i deactivated the typoscriptpath
15:12 uschi but still nothing is rendered
15:13 uschi not even the sample content
15:13 King76 tobi, your code don't work ;-( 10.if.isTrue.field = unlien
15:13 King76 look my code (xml) from FCE :
15:13 King76 <unlien type="array">
15:13 King76 <tx_templavoila type="array">
15:13 King76 <title>Un lien</title>
15:13 King76 <description>Test</description>
15:13 King76 <sample_data type="array">
15:13 King76 <numIndex index="0">LIEN</numIndex>
15:13 King76 </sample_data>
15:13 King76 <eType>link</eType>
15:13 King76 <TypoScript>
15:13 King76 10 = TEXT
15:13 King76 10.value = X
15:13 King76 10.typolink.parameter.current = 1
15:13 King76 10.if.isTrue.field = unlien
15:13 gerards King76: please use phpfi.com
15:14 King76 ok sorry
15:14 uschi i have no idea where to look for the error
15:15 andreasbalzer Hi!
15:15 andreasbalzer I have created two videos for a microsoft competition. It would be nice if you can watch them and maybe rate them with some (maybe plenty ;) ) stars..
15:15 andreasbalzer Thanks :)
15:15 andreasbalzer http://showusyourwow.msn.com/?id=129739
15:15 andreasbalzer http://showusyourwow.msn.com/?id=137170
15:15 King76 http://phpfi.com/213549
15:15 gerards no problem King76
15:15 uschi Hi andreasbalzer
15:16 gerards uschi: cleared fe cache?
15:16 uschi sure
15:16 uschi twice, thrice
15:16 uschi many times
15:16 gerards storage folder points to the correct pid?
15:17 gerards in page header you selected both Data Structure AND template Object?
15:17 uschi yes, the rest of the template is alright
15:17 King76 ok sorry !!! My code is correcct lol.. thank You Tobi for code if.isTrue... is right !!
15:17 uschi yes
15:17 uschi it is just that a special part is not written out
15:17 uschi it is just left out
15:17 gerards is it mapped to a ts object or soemthing else?
15:18 uschi it is a div as a wrapper, type = CO, mapped outer
15:18 uschi inside is an AT mapped to the style attribute of the header, editing type tspath
15:18 uschi then to ELs mapped to two hx elements
15:19 uschi the style attribute of the div that is the CO i mean
15:20 gerards i'm not a TV expert but i remember trying to map stuff inside other mapped stuff.
15:21 gerards i remember i couldn't do it.
15:21 uschi but it has to be possible *sniff*
15:23 gerards FCE
15:24 uschi hm it seems that i may not map the div to outer
15:24 gerards but first uschi please confirm that its not possible to nest mappings. remove the mappins inside, and see if the CO works.
15:24 uschi if i map it to inner the code shows up
15:24 uschi but then i cannot manipulate the style-attribute anymore
15:25 uschi and i have to ...
15:27 uschi i cannot confirm this
15:27 uschi i did this the other day with an ul
15:28 burzum i try to setup a new typo3 4.1 and get this error
15:28 burzum Warning: mysql_list_tables(): supplied argument is not a valid MySQL-Link resource in /is/htdocs/wp1070162_X27J8G7I71/www/typo3/t3lib/class.t3lib_db.php on line 966
15:29 gerards uschi: like i said i'm not a TV expert, but why can't you just map inner and place a class in the div. you can control the style with CSS.
15:32 Amtal Is anyone familiar with problems using the install tool under PHP 5.2.x? My server recently upgraded to 5.2.1 and most things seem to work fine -- but accessing some install tool functions seems to cause apache2 to hang. Nothing in the php or apache error logs though.
15:33 Amtal It doesn't affect all of them, but this happens with the database analyzer, basic configuration and typo3temp links.
15:35 uschi because it contains a background image that changes from subpage to subpage
15:36 uschi the div has a class, it is only background-image that i have to insert dynamically
15:40 uschi do you understand what i mean?
15:40 gerards uschi: yes.
15:40 uschi any idea?
15:40 gerards then you need to create a wrapper for the div.
15:40 gerards it might work.
15:41 uschi no, because inside the div in question i need ts as well
15:42 uschi wait, i have an idea
15:42 uschi no, i have not ...
15:43 uschi i am going to make it an el and do it all via ts
15:53 Denyerec uschi - why do you hate TV today?
15:53 Denyerec Last night, well at 5am, I had success :)
15:54 uschi great
15:54 Denyerec what ar eyou stuck on ?
15:54 uschi i have a div which should be a container AND i need to map its style attribute
15:55 Boonkerz anyone use gallerys or have experience with gallerys
15:55 uschi the awfull stuff is that it is on the very top of an otherwise complete mapping
15:56 Boonkerz i search an gallery with categories which have more as one level
16:00 Denyerec There are some Typo galleries Boonkerz
16:00 Denyerec js gallery I think
16:00 Denyerec or jm
16:01 Denyerec or something
16:01 uschi the problem is that there are tons of galleries
16:02 uschi wow, problem solved, gerards
16:03 uschi the outer div is not a container anymore
16:03 uschi they are all on one level now and i mapped only the attribute
16:03 Denyerec uschi - I don't understand the TV container types. I have decided.
16:03 uschi neither do i
16:03 Denyerec Hehe
16:04 uschi we will have to dig into them
16:04 Denyerec You have "element" and "container for elements"
16:04 Denyerec And I think the difference is *somewhere* in the documentation.
16:04 Denyerec :)
16:04 uschi well, an element cannot be filled with content elements
16:05 uschi it cannot have children
16:05 uschi one has to read the core documentation about flexforms and data structures
16:06 uschi anyway i have my output now
16:07 uschi now lets have a ts feast
16:07 Denyerec Why would you map something, if only to fill it with more mappings?
16:08 Denyerec Doesn't that make it a little redundant ?
16:08 uschi this is more or less for this section business
16:09 uschi have to go to the kitchen
16:16 uschi hm Denyerec, probably CO is primarily intended if you want your editors to insert content elements
16:16 uschi and you want to do further mapping inside in order to what we have done with that fucking list
16:17 uschi the other day
16:17 uschi repetitive mapping
16:19 Denyerec Can you think of an example
16:19 Denyerec ?
16:20 uschi well, we had it the other day with this ul we did together
16:20 eeos hi everybody!
16:20 uschi the problem is, i killed my tester
16:21 uschi Denyerec, i saw your post about our TCA question by the way
16:23 Denyerec Well
16:23 Denyerec we had a container
16:23 Denyerec and then we mapped something else into it
16:24 uschi which we made behave as a section
16:24 Denyerec so what you're saying is that the container can repeat what's mapped inside it ?
16:24 Denyerec or something ?
16:24 Denyerec Gah! So confused.
16:24 Denyerec There should be a TV glossary
16:24 uschi only if you make it a section
16:24 Denyerec And if yu don't... what is the point of it at all ?
16:25 uschi i am not sure right now, i have to think about it
16:38 neostar lo
16:42 brosment Please, tell me, how to add new paragraph styles in rtehtmlarea. I use "RTE. classes" for CSS and RTE.default.proc.allowedClasses" and "RTE.default.classesParagraph" in Template TS Setup. But no effect. What is wrong?
16:46 brosment Please, answer me. I try to solve my problem during 3 days.
16:46 just2b hello
16:47 just2b anyone tried a xmenu_layers menu opening to the top?
16:49 King76 one question : Can you add frontend editing with tt_news ? I use TV and this code : http://www.typo3wizard.com/en/snippets/general-config/tt-news-frontend-editing.html but it don't work ;-(
16:51 tobi do the normal edit panels work? else also these want work
16:52 King76 hmm yes I have editpanel = 1 in my setup
16:52 tobi do they work too?
16:52 King76 yes
16:52 tobi i never tested this with tv, only with traditional template building
16:52 tobi maybe it does not work with tv
16:53 King76 ok let me testing with traditional template... ;)
16:53 just2b nobody ever seen a CSS or tmenu_layer menu going up?
16:54 tobi just2b: i think you need a dhtml to do that
16:54 tobi maybe also possible with tmenu_layer, not shure
16:55 just2b thx tobi, but never seen anything like this?
16:56 tobi hm seen yes but i dont remember where :/
16:57 tobi there are lots in google, i searched dhtml menu bottom up
16:58 brosment Please, tell me, how to add new paragraph styles in rtehtmlarea. I use "RTE. classes" for CSS and RTE.default.proc.allowedClasses" and "RTE.default.classesParagraph" in Template TS Setup. But no effect. What is wrong?
16:58 just2b thx
17:00 tobi brosment: the rte cant be configured in template setup, these settings have to go into page tsconfig!
17:03 brosment Ok, but I tried to configure Page TS too. The same problem. I tried to edit rtehtmlarea TS Setup in "sysext" even. No result. What else to do?
17:06 King76 tobi
17:07 King76 it's correct for Frontend editing !!
17:07 King76 I must to activate : Display Edit Panels: in adminPanel ;)
17:07 King76 Display Edit Icons: has not effect ;)
17:09 oliver Hi everybody !
17:13 oliver Someone uses TemplaVoila ?
17:26 voidus oliver: yes
17:27 voidus any lib/div user here? i cannot get efaq working
17:27 oliver voidus : Which version of TV are you using ?
17:28 voidus 1.0.1
17:28 oliver voidus : ok :-)
17:28 voidus too old?
17:28 oliver voidus : I'm afraid :-) I've a problem with the latest 1.3.0
17:28 voidus i am upgrading now
17:29 oliver voidus : I had "permission" problem with 1.3.0. The problem didn't occur with 1.2.1
17:29 oliver voidus : On a fresh Typo3 4.1 install
17:29 oliver voidus : But maybe I'm dyslexic :-)
17:29 just2b is it somehow possible to get a widht/height in a IMGTEXT, not only a maxW?
17:30 voidus just2b: maxH ?
17:32 just2b no i don't want to scale, but I need images with exact height + width
17:35 voidus just2b: so don't set any option, i think
17:36 oliver Joomla or Typo3, which is the best ? :-D
17:36 just2b depends
17:36 oliver Depends on wind speed or direction ? :-D
17:37 King76 ;)
17:37 voidus oliver: on the moon phase
17:37 oliver voidus : Ah ok, it's what I was thinking :-D
17:38 voidus oliver: typo3 is complex and powerful, joomla is simple but not very powerful.
17:38 just2b but has got better community features out of the box
17:38 oliver voidus : What does "powerful" mean ? I know what powerful mean for a Lamborghini, not for a CMS :-D
17:39 voidus just2b: i think for community features more suitable is xoops.. not?
17:39 just2b don't know xoops
17:39 voidus oliver: typo3 is an F1 car, joomla is a ford.
17:40 oliver voidus : hmmm. So you mean that for everydayuse, Joomla is more suitable ? :-D
17:41 voidus oliver: i mean that if you have some time (month or two) to learn typo3, you will not see at joomla. if you want "site at 15 minutes", use joomla
17:42 oliver voidus : Ok so why would someone spend time learning Typo3 instead of getting started on Joomla ?
17:42 just2b if you know typo3, you will build also the 15min-pages with typo3
17:42 just2b because typo3 can do much more things wihtout every touching any core files
17:43 just2b TS is so powerfull, learning after 2 years is still possible
17:43 voidus oliver: there is no "page" or "content element" in joomla. i don't know how it is possible.
17:43 TaucherMK What is the Container Type in TemplaVoila for?
17:44 oliver voidus : You seem to use Joomla also I guess ?
17:44 oliver TaucherMK : What TV version are you using ?
17:44 voidus TaucherMK: for creating repeating elements. did you read Futuristic Template Building?
17:44 neostar oliver: this is just personal preference, but if I had to learn one CMS I would go for TYPO3, because I know it won't fail me in the long run. Managing one CMS is hard enough so I would pick the one which is the most flexible
17:44 TaucherMK version 1.1.1, yeah i read it
17:45 neostar oliver: so as you can guess I'm starting to get a grip on TYPO3
17:45 oliver neostar : Good answer thanks
17:45 oliver Typo3 gives the image of a rocket-scientist - oriented CMS :-D
17:46 oliver Like assembly language was twenty years ago
17:46 neostar oliver: it is, and it takes quite a while to figure everything out, but it's worth the time
17:46 neostar oliver: well TYPO3 is much easier than Assembler and even better to understand, you just need to give yourself time to let everything you read settle
17:47 oliver neostar : Is Typo3 suitable for my personal web site ?
17:47 voidus oliver: yes
17:47 oliver neostar : I would like to setup a blog, forum, authentification, etc.
17:48 neostar oliver: you need to be patient, if you don't understand things at first and don't know where to put them just read on, sleep one night and read again
17:48 oliver neostar : I spent one month learning Typo3 right now and 2 days learning TemplaVoila
17:48 voidus oliver: an example: http://www.ingo-renner.com/
17:49 oliver voidus : wow, respect
17:49 oliver voidus : Is it your site ?
17:49 voidus oliver: no
17:50 oliver voidus : Do you know what's the best blog extension for Typo3 ?
17:50 voidus oliver: timtab
17:50 oliver oliver : thanks !
17:50 oliver voidus : Thanks !
17:50 neostar oliver: Ingo Renner is the developer
17:51 oliver neostar : ah ok
17:51 neostar oliver: if you install his extension you will find the docs in the extension manager, just in case you're searching for any manual
17:52 Denyerec hey tobi
17:53 oliver neostar : I don't have OpenOffice on my machine
17:53 Denyerec oliver - you can get portable Open Office
17:53 just2b what a pity... there are converters
17:53 Denyerec no install required
17:53 Denyerec runs out of one folder
17:53 oliver Portable Open Office ok
17:53 Denyerec Doesn't interfere with any of your other settings.
17:53 Denyerec url coming up
17:53 Denyerec tobi tobi tobi
17:53 Denyerec damn he left
17:54 Denyerec http://portableapps.com/apps/office/openoffice_portable
17:54 just2b anyone from typo3.org online concerning security issue
17:55 oliver Denyerec : Thanks !
17:57 oliver Denyerec : So the application to use is Writer ?
17:57 neostar oliver: yes
18:02 just2b question: how is this called if there is a small js in a file which contacts the owner of the script?
18:03 just2b come on.. you know that ;)
18:03 oliver just2b : spyware ?
18:03 oliver just2b : backdoor ?
18:04 just2b hm no not really... ok have to describe in mail @ security team ;)
18:04 neostar just2b: depends on the script
18:04 oliver Depends on the wind speed and direction :-D
18:05 Ries js I never could compress the owner of a script... must hurt
18:05 neostar just2b: could be used as usage statistics, copy protection, etc.
18:05 just2b no just for improving own page rank > including link to own page in a extension
18:05 neostar just2b: well that's bad SEO
18:06 voidus anyone installed efaq or apples?
18:12 oliver good bye everybody !
18:12 oliver see you soon
18:16 just2b anyone installed extension pagerank anywehre? delete it!
18:17 Denyerec WHy so ?
18:17 just2b because it inserts advertisment into source code, hiding it with css
18:17 Denyerec Ahaha
18:18 just2b ?
18:19 koomi really?
18:19 koomi url the pag
18:19 koomi e
18:20 neostar just2b: can you show us the bit of code?
18:20 just2b http://p18078.typo3server.info/index.php?id=387
18:20 just2b just my demo installation
18:21 just2b you will see, everything inside the <div class="tx-pagerank-pi1", and ext just downloaded 10min ago
18:21 koomi <h1>Gnstige Swopper Angebote im <a href="SwopperOnline-Shop">http://www.dielei.de">SwopperOnline-Shop
18:21 koomi hrhr
18:21 koomi report it somewhere. no idea where
18:22 just2b reported it already @ security team
18:22 voidus it is not ext. author fault
18:22 voidus look here: http://www.backlinks-analyse-tool.com/pagerank/create_picture.php
18:23 just2b http://www.backlinks-analyse-tool.com/impressum.html
18:23 just2b name: peter... ext author = peter
18:24 just2b so?
18:24 just2b i guess no coincidence
18:49 King76 Do you know irfaq ?
18:50 King76 this a code for tt_news and frontend editing :
18:50 King76 plugin.tt_news.general_stdWrap.editPanel = 1
18:50 King76 plugin.tt_news.general_stdWrap.editPanel.allow = edit, new
18:50 King76 I want to apply it for irfaq :
18:50 King76 plugin.tx_irfaq_pi1.general_stdWrap.editPanel = 1
18:50 King76 plugin.tx_irfaq_pi1.general_stdWrap.editPanel.allow = edit, new
18:51 King76 but it not work.. ;-(
18:51 King76 general_stdWrap are same type for two extension ?
19:13 j0hndeere Hello again, earthlings.
19:39 King76 Do you have information about TCA ? I want to add field in content of type plugin, just after TOTOP link checkbox ;)
19:42 voidus King76: see $TCA['tt_content']['types']['list']
19:42 King76 thank you
19:44 voidus anyone installed efaq/apples/articles ?
19:45 King76 efaq is old extension ?
19:45 King76 a fork of irfaq ?
19:50 voidus King76: no. efaq is completely new extension
19:50 voidus but i can't get it working
19:51 voidus efaq, apples and articles are based on lib/div framwork..
19:51 King76 ok exact.. new extension , i don't know sorry ;-(
20:17 neostar could someone give me advice on using v4.1 and existing extensions? Can they be used or do they all need to be updated?
20:39 strophy internet explorer is driving me nuts
20:39 strophy does anybody know a place where i can find out the bugs that are messing up my positioning?
20:42 bauschan strophy: google->ie hacks
20:44 kraftb hi everyone ...
20:44 kraftb quick question: how can i set a link to a page so the page opens as shortcut
20:44 kraftb i may be dumb not to know this ... i guess its possible easily
20:48 LinAsH kraftb, in page properties, change type and choose 'shortcut'
20:48 kraftb well ... but then i can only set a shortcut
20:48 kraftb where can i make it to open in a popup
20:49 kraftb opens as popup i meant
20:49 kraftb sorry
20:49 kraftb i mean when i set a link from within the RTE i can set "300x400" as target ... and it will open in a 300x400 popup ...
20:50 LinAsH hmm...
20:54 LinAsH kraftb, found it!
20:55 LinAsH choose external url
20:55 LinAsH and and type 300x400 in the target field
22:35 uschi hi all, can someone who can still read code have a look on one line of code, please
22:36 uschi subject is optionSplit
22:36 uschi allWrap = <li class="first act">|</li>|*|<li class="act">|</li>|*|<li class="last act">|</li>
22:36 uschi what the hell is wrong
22:36 uschi Denyerec ? you there?
22:42 uschi voidus, are you awake?
22:43 voidus uschi: yes
22:43 uschi please can you have a look at one line of code?
22:43 uschi optionSplit is driving me mad
22:43 voidus seems right
22:43 uschi but there is no act in the code
22:44 uschi ACT = 1
22:44 uschi ACT {
22:44 uschi allWrap = <li class="first act">|</li>|*|<li class="act">|</li>|*|<li class="last act">|</li>
22:44 uschi allWrap = <li>|</li>
22:44 uschi stdWrap.htmlSpecialChars = 1
22:44 uschi }
22:44 uschi this is the whole thing
22:44 uschi so it might not even be optionsplit then?
22:44 voidus why you have 2 lines with allWrap?
22:45 uschi shit
22:45 uschi thx
22:45 uschi that was for testing, thanks
22:45 voidus :)
22:45 uschi i have looked over these few lines for one hour now
22:45 uschi shall i cry or shall i laugh?
22:45 uschi the second line i mean
22:47 voidus i think, you should rest. drink a cup of coffee, or game,or go to sleep
22:48 uschi good idea
22:48 uschi seems so
22:48 uschi no coffee
22:49 uschi i will have something to eat and read something that has nothing to do with t3
22:49 voidus good idea
22:49 voidus bash.org ?:)
23:50 tansta_ 4.1 is OUT
23:50 tansta_ how colol
23:52 uschi at the moment i could kick t3
23:52 uschi voidus, something happend

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