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00:03 tansta_ uchi why
00:03 tansta_ ?
00:16 Denyerec uschi
00:16 Denyerec I am here now
00:19 voidus uschi: what heppend?
00:20 tansta hey denyerec :)
00:20 Denyerec hey tansta
00:20 tansta you seem to be busy these days dude :)
00:23 Denyerec I just take forever to do anything.
00:23 Denyerec I'm torn now between hacking some more at another typo site, or doing a couple of quick CSS builds.
00:23 Denyerec I'm thinking get the CSS builds out of the way...
00:23 Denyerec As they're quick money
00:41 tansta hehehe
00:41 tansta have you tried 4.1 ?
00:56 Denyerec NO, I downloaded it with good intentions
00:57 Denyerec and didn't get around to it
00:58 pond I just grep'd the typo3 code for 'EnableFiends'... and thanks goodness I got no hits...
00:58 pond :)
00:58 Denyerec Hahahaha
01:52 Rocketjock Hello All
01:53 Rocketjock Hey Ries
01:53 Denyerec hey roam
01:54 Denyerec lo Rocketjock
01:54 Rocketjock Hi Den
01:56 Ries Hey Rocketjock
01:59 nkuttler hm, since i added the 'pagePath' section to the realurl config ( http://phpfi.com/213762 ) the redirect from the login box doesn't work any more, i get redirected to the root page. any ideas?
02:08 Denyerec :(
02:08 Denyerec I am afraid I'm no use with realURL, sorry :/
02:11 nkuttler np ;)
02:46 a7p does anyone have a clue, why I cannot install templavoila in 1.3 in TYPO 4.1 - complains about md5-hashes ... (same with all 4.1betas)
03:57 Denyerec RAAAAAAAAAAAAA
03:57 Denyerec Build finished.
03:57 Denyerec I sleep.
06:17 vagy hi
06:19 vagy is there any "standard" way of customizing the form used to login to backend (to make the customer feel like a happy puppy) or is it just hacking this page?
06:23 AlP_ vagy, there is a way ... I read about it some time ago ..
06:23 AlP_ but I do not remember...
06:26 vagy AIP_: i havent seen anything in the docs and a googling doesnt reveal anything straightforward so i suppose the solution leans more to the "hack it" side?
06:53 Fanty morning
07:01 zatmania hi all typoters
07:11 Fanty arent there any easy way to add the WHERE to a SELECT from fe_users to add all the "deleted = 0, disabled = 0" etc?
07:23 Jigal hi all
07:25 smda hi
07:26 uffi good morning all :))
07:27 Jigal hi smda, uffi
07:27 uffi good morning Jigal and smda
07:37 zatmania hi Jigal, uffi, smda, tobi
07:38 tobi good morning #typo3, hi Jigal,smda,uffi,zatmania
07:39 uffi Can anyone explain to me how to use the pagetype Shortcut properly, if I want to achieve, that the first subpage of a subtree is displayed as home in the mainmenu and the ACT and CUR states are respected?
07:39 uffi hi tobi :)
07:49 Jigal uffi: from what I've noticed when using shortcut pages, the contents of the page the shortcut is pointing too are displayed as if they were present on the shortcut page itself. The visitor isn't forwarded to -- in your case -- the first subpage in the subtree, but stays on the 'home' page; he/she only sees the contents of the first subpage in the subtree...
07:49 just2b good morning
07:49 Jigal hi floxx, toms, just2b
07:50 just2b hi jigal...
07:50 toms hi
07:50 floxx hi jigal
07:54 _jpk morning.
07:54 _jpk Anyone here knowing his/her way aroung indexed_search and site crawler?
07:56 just2b who would think that a guestbook including a google map would be a nice / great/.. feature?
07:56 _jpk me
07:56 tobi uffi: act for shortcuts work correct if you are using the direct path to the menue like in this snippet: http://www.typo3wizard.com/en/snippets/menus/externe-links-und-shortcuts-direkt-im-menue.html
07:56 just2b any other opinions? tobi? ;)
08:00 mikhas anyone know which realurl version works ok with 3.8.0 (including info-page). unfortunately the manual says nothing and neither does the ter. :-(
08:00 uffi thx toby
08:01 uffi but there is one other problem
08:01 just2b mikhas > i think 0.3.0 if i am right
08:01 uffi i messed up a part of my page tree
08:03 uffi i fiddled around with shortcuts and all of a sudden in a certain part of the page tree all pages i show are redirected somehow to a certain page
08:03 mikhas just2b: thanks.
08:03 just2b np
08:04 just2b OT > should I go to vonda shepard concert?
08:04 uffi shit, too late, have to get ready for the university
08:04 just2b :D
08:43 Jigal just2b: OT > why do you ask? you don't know her?
08:44 just2b i know her, but still not cheap ;)
08:45 Jigal just2b: you could try to download her concert CD, find friend with surround sound set, close your eyes and imagine you're at one of her gigs :-) a lot cheaper...
08:46 just2b surround is in front of my... running currently a dvd ;)
08:46 just2b oh i love my amazon whishlist :D
08:47 Jigal concert tickets bring a lot more income to an artist than CD/DVD sales; so from a support point of view...
08:47 just2b concert will be in a not soo big church and ticket is still between 32 - 42€
08:51 Fanty quote from the release notes: "Some tables are changed to use InnoDB engine type for MySQL" -- what tables?
08:53 Jigal well, the kind of music I heard at her website isn't really suitable for a stadium; a more intimate setting is much more appropriate. acoustics in churches can be great. ticket price is not too much for a full concert I think. well known artists in stadiums ask 50 to >100 sometimes
08:53 just2b yeah ok I won't compare it to u2,...
08:54 just2b but as far as I know myself I'll have to go ;)
08:56 koomi moin
08:59 Jigal just2b: OT > a few prices here in NL: The Waterboys 32.50, Lionel Richie 43-59; Shakira 43-49; Dolly Parton 55-73; Snoop Dogg & P.Diddy 52; Gwen Stefani 36-42
09:01 just2b lionel > 54 - 87
09:02 Jigal Fanty: InnoDB with newer MySQL version?
09:03 Fanty Jigal: yep.. 5.x
09:04 Jigal Fanty: and on 4.x you could use multi table delete statements ;-)
09:04 Fanty Jigal: the trick here would be me not having to worry about making any deletes at all... having my table cleaned up nicely whenever something is deleted from fe_sessions
09:06 Fanty Jigal: multitable deletes suck.. at least when I use them. I always end up with some rather complex relational database and remembering to delete everything from everywhere is a pain
09:06 Jigal Fanty: that is a situation where you could use foreign keys with an on delete clause...
09:08 Fanty Jigal: exactly.. however my fe_sessions aren't using InnoDB right now.. I'm trying to figure out how much is going to explode into my face if I convert it
09:08 Jigal Fanty: those multi-table delete queries are fun! (just like other complex queries, which still can run fast)
09:08 Jigal Fanty: what's the current definition of the fe_sessions table?
09:09 Fanty Jigal: Its only fun while you develop it.. afterwards, when someone comes running and yells BUUUUUUUUUUUUG its a pain :P
09:09 Fanty Jigal: cant find it
09:09 Jigal Fanty: SHOW CREATE TABLE `fe_sessions` :-P
09:11 Fanty Jigal: oh, right now its MyISAM.. if it wasen't I wouldn't have any problems ;)
09:11 Fanty Jigal: I'm hoping they've converted the default to InnoDB in 4.1 thus letting me not feel like I take a chance converting my table
09:12 Fanty Jigal: but I cant find the default table definitions for 4.1 right now
09:12 Jigal Fanty: I assumed it was MyISAM, but how about autoincrement fields, indexes, primary key, etc.?
09:12 just2b can anyone help me with extending a table in ext_tables.php? if i make the extension via kickstarter, everything is fine but if I copy the ext_Tables.php into another ext_tables.php, nothing shown > code http://phpfi.com/213816
09:13 Fanty Jigal: only thing it has is a PRIMARY KEY (`ses_id`,`ses_name`)
09:15 Jigal Fanty: and ses_id and ses_name are not very long fields (e.g. VARCHAR(255) or so)
09:15 Jigal ?
09:16 Fanty Jigal: nope they're small.. varchar(32) both of them
09:19 Jigal Fanty: hmm... 64 char primary key; smaller would be better. If the table isn't very big, it wouldn't be a problem. You still have to configure your MySQL to allocate memory for InnoDB; for small databases the default settings in the example ini files are good enough. RTFM though! ( http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/converting-tables-to-innodb.html )
09:19 pulponair hi there
09:23 just2b another try: code in ext_tables.php should work in every ext_tables.php, is that correcT?
09:26 just2b come on.. YOU know that ;)
09:27 Jigal just2b: no
09:28 just2b you don't know it?
09:29 Jigal just2b: if you add definition for field in table, it should be present in the actual table; so ext_tables.sql should also be changed
09:29 just2b yeah but it should be visible... beside the sql error if i want to insert anything
09:30 just2b http://phpfi.com/213821 > only the first table gets updated...
09:38 Jigal just2b: don't know what happens if you don't add it to ext_tables.sql and don't update the installed extension...
09:39 just2b the field is shown in BE... but I have to fix that later
09:39 Jigal I would have to look up the addToAllTCAtypes() call though to say anything about that...
09:42 Jigal just2b: I see calls to t3lib_extMgm::addPlugin() in all my ext_tables.php's, but not in yours!?
09:43 just2b you need that for your FE plugin
09:43 just2b i'm talking just about extending a table
09:45 Jigal just2b: well, I still would edit ext_tables.sql and update the extension in the EM first...
09:45 just2b tables are there...
09:45 just2b i just movied some code from one ext_tables to another one
09:46 Jigal just2b: afaik TYPO3 uses ext_tables.sql to compare that definition with the actual table in the db; don't know all the side effects if the two don't match...
09:47 just2b yeah but the fields are there...
09:48 Jigal and this is part of tx_veguestbook_entries?
09:48 just2b yes
09:49 Jigal But the $TCA entry is not defined in this ext_tables.php file!?
09:49 Jigal So, how can you load that TCA??
09:50 just2b with t3lib_div::loadTCA("tx_veguestbook_entries");
09:50 Jigal Where is the definition of $TCA['tx_veguestbook_entries']??
09:51 just2b don't really know but the question is: why does it work in an ext_tables.php in a plain ext, just made with the kickstarter and why not if i use the exace same file in another ext...
09:53 Jigal $TCA['tt_contents'] is defined in ext_tables.php of tt_contents, so you can load the TCA entry in another extension. Usually extensions include the initial definition of the $TCA entry for their tables...
09:55 Jigal I mean: if there is no initial definition of the tx_veguestbook_entries table in $TCA, you can never load that TCA entry and you can never add a column to that TCA entry.
09:55 just2b there is! i only extend the guestbook... in both extension, the 1st which is made by kickstarter and 2nd where I just imported the whole file
10:00 Jigal It's getting confusing :-) So there is a typo3conf/ext/ve_guestbook/ext_tables.php which contains a definition like $TCA["tx_veguestbook_entries"] = Array ( ... ?
10:02 just2b of course > in the extension ve_guestbook
10:10 Jigal Did you set the depencies for your extension?
10:10 just2b yes
10:11 just2b thx for help.,... need to go to the mensa now.. maybe this helps with thinking
10:12 Jigal just2b: what if you change the order; first tx_veguestbook_entries, then tt_contents?
10:12 Jigal just2b: with such an IQ, who needs help thinking? ;-P
10:12 just2b ;)))) no change with another order
10:13 Jigal then somehow the ve_guestbook extension isn't loaded yet when yours is loaded... ext_emconf.php shows the dependencies?
10:19 _jpk Hi guys. How can I debug indexed_search? Any ideas where the log_setTSlogMessage Messages are written/displayed?
10:32 mikhas how would you go around for a filesearch-function for around 300 files? indexed_search?
10:34 Fanty why aren't the fe_* tables defined in t3lib/stddb/tables.sql ?
10:35 Fanty and where are the default fe_* tables then defined?
10:37 Fanty answer: in sysext/cms/ext_tables.sql
10:45 mikhas hmm, i can't find any plugins that can search for files in fileadmin.
10:46 neostar hi
10:47 Jigal Fanty: as to the why: TYPO3 is basically a framework and even the cms is implemented as a (system) extension.
10:49 Fanty Jigal: yir, figured as much when I took a look inside the cms folder ;) fe_sessions is defaulted to InnoDB now too btw
10:52 Jigal Fanty: InnoDB isn't the perfect engine for all circumstances; choices for engines must be carefully made...
10:54 reber hi all
10:55 Jigal hi to all I haven't said hi to for a while :-)
10:56 neostar hi reber and Jigal :-)
11:30 Jigal re
11:30 just2b re
11:30 brain-xy hey ho :)
11:31 Jigal hi just2b, brain-xy
11:31 brain-xy Jigal.. how are you?
11:31 marc| hi @ #typo3
11:37 Jigal brain-xy: I'm very well, thank you. How are you?
11:37 eeos hi there!
11:37 Jigal hi eeos
11:37 brain-xy Jigal .. i'm trying execute "rm girl -R" :P
11:39 neostar she has subdirs?
11:39 Jigal brain-xy: should we contact the local authorities or is 'girl' merely a directory in your filesystem? ;-)
11:40 neostar Jigal: everything is a file ;-)
11:40 brain-xy in my filesystem in the brainOS .. :P
11:40 neostar that's why you should make backups because they mess with your filesystem
11:41 Jigal they mess with other resources too
11:41 neostar :-P
11:42 neostar Such processes should be sandboxed for security measures
11:42 Jigal OTOH they can also increase the clock speed of your CPU
11:43 neostar or chroot them
11:43 marc| was she outsourced or just buggy?
11:44 eeos brain-xy did you stop all processes with IO to that filesystem before? :P
11:45 brain-xy yes i did ^^
11:45 Jigal maybe registration was overdue and the process complained about an upgrade from Girl 6.2 to Wife 1.0?
11:45 marc| Jigal: we are at 2.0 age ;)
11:45 marc| everything is 2.0 so wife must be at least 2.0 :D
11:46 Jigal Web 2.0 ...
11:46 Jigal but TYPO3 is 4.1!
11:46 marc| futuristic!
11:47 neostar see she didn't fit in for 4.1
11:47 brain-xy jigal.. no no.. she just was not able to love such a crazy guy like me.. incompatible systems .. well..
11:47 neostar you're so 4.1
11:47 brain-xy maybe i should change the skin
11:47 neostar what about the extensions?
11:48 brain-xy all i need is my core .. :)
11:50 neostar hey we tried to stdWrap it
11:51 brain-xy Jigal .. :D
11:51 Jigal brain-xy: at least you're still smiling!
11:52 brain-xy jap.. the last 2 days i was crying :( .. and today i decided to laugh again .. and the sun is shining.. hurray huh yeah
11:55 Jigal be careful: "Smile! Life could be worse! So I did, and it was."
11:59 Jigal just2b: still hooked on Trillian? ;-)
12:01 Fanty hmm.. why does class.t3lib_db.php have an REPLACEquery? :(
12:02 just2b why does netrebko sings everyhing in russian? ;)
12:03 Jigal Fanty: if you want to add or update something without testing yourself which action is needed?
12:04 Fanty Jigal: yep.. insert, but I dont care if its already in there... if it is then overwrite it based on key constraints ofcause
12:06 Jigal Fanty: that's basically what REPLACE does, but I don't get the reason why you ask about t3lib_db.php having such a function?
12:06 Fanty Jigal: I'm writing an extension.. I'm supposed to use t3lib_db for DB access aren't I?
12:07 Fanty Guess I'll have to make a delete or select... and lock the table if I want to be completely sure... waste of queries =/
12:07 Jigal Fanty: did you mean "doesn't" instead of "does"? :-)
12:08 Fanty Jigal: ohh... yep.. sorry :)
12:08 Jigal than the question becomes semantically totally different ;-P
12:09 Jigal are you using Innodb? why not use transactions; no need for table locking!
12:09 eeos hi there again.
12:09 neostar wb
12:10 Fanty Jigal: these tables use InnoDB but does t3lib_db supports transactions?
12:10 Jigal hi eeos; I thought that you had enough of the OT discussion :-) Well, it's on topic again!
12:10 eeos Jigal: no, the computer playing on me :(
12:11 eeos Jigal: having serious problem with switching to the new kernel
12:18 deViL` re
12:25 Jigal Fanty: you can always use the basic MySQL functions in t3lib_db.php such as sql(), sql_query(), sql_num_rows(), etc.
12:25 Fanty Jigal: that would just break the reason to use the t3lib_db to access mysql and not just access it directly dosen't it?
12:26 Fanty Jigal: calling sql_query("start transaction") would be mysql specific thus wouldn't work if another databaseengine was used
12:26 Jigal Fanty: there is no real DAL which also virtualizes the queries themselves; quite impossible without causing serious backward compatibility issues, or a new DAL with a new query language should be introduced
12:27 eeos hi again!
12:28 Jigal Fanty: the PHP extension/library PDO is an attempt, but still requires one to build one's own SQL queries (which are vendor specific)
12:30 Fanty Jigal: whats the point in t3lib_db then?
12:30 Fanty besides a bit of logging
12:31 aempi i want to include a *.swf file in my template, just adding the object in the HTML doesnt work, typo ignores it, how do i include it properly? i placed a marker ###SLIDE### where the swf should appear
12:31 aempi i don't really know how the TS should look like :/
12:32 just2b marks.SLIDE = TEXT
12:32 just2b marks.SLIDE.value = the needed html code
12:32 aempi hm, i think that is what i tried, i will take a second look....thanks
12:32 Jigal Fanty: I once made an XML-based query language for a specific subset of queries as an attempt to make the db access more abstract, but building such a layer for all kinds of queries is not something you easily build and it will make the system less flexible and probably slower too.
12:36 Fanty Jigal: I know, I've had some attempts myself too - t3lib_db does meets most queries and would be able to support something other than mysql for most queries as long as you stick to using the exec_* functions. That would be fine too if they had a REPLACE query too. Not being able to take advantage of using exec_* exclusively I might as well dump it entirely and use sql_query() instead
12:38 aempi it doesn't really works here are the lines I added in the setup field:
12:38 aempi page.10.marks.SLIDE = TEXT
12:38 aempi page.10.marks.SLIDE.value = "<html code>"
12:38 Fanty aempi: there's no reason you cant have the object in the HTML either if you build your template correctly
12:39 Fanty aempi: you might want to have a second look at the template you're using...
12:39 aempi http://sabinepostel.de/fileadmin/templates/index.html
12:39 aempi this is the template, i think the marker is correct
12:39 aempi or do you mean the template in typo3?
12:39 aempi erm, the template object
12:40 Fanty aempi: you using TV or is it a regular template?
12:40 aempi templavoila
12:40 aempi and when i include the html directly in the html
12:40 Fanty you dont use the marks in TV
12:40 aempi it doesnt work
12:41 Fanty you map content instead
12:41 aempi yes, i, know
12:41 aempi the content works fine
12:41 aempi www.sabinepostel.de
12:41 aempi to the right is a content box
12:41 aempi and i want the flashfile to be displayed on each page the same way on the dark blue surface to the left
12:42 Fanty aempi: make another content field and map it to the div you want the flash in.. and add the flash as content
12:42 aempi thx alot, i will try that
12:43 aempi this whole typoscript thing is a bit confusing for me
12:48 Denyerec Halllo all
12:48 smda ohlas bandolas
12:48 mikhas how do i get get typo3 to start indexing (for indexing_search)? Is there a difference between 3.8 and 4.x ?
12:48 neostar hi Denyerec
12:48 Denyerec mikhas I had to sacrifice a goat.
12:49 Denyerec Your mileage may vary
12:49 Jigal Fanty: 4.0 should feature DBAL 1.0, which was awarded with a EUR 5000 budget (120hours) and aimed to provide a "stable solution to run TYPO3 on top of PostgresSQL, Oracle and MSSQL." http://association.typo3.org/committees/research-development/projects/40/dbal-10/
12:49 mikhas Denyerec: I tried that, just left a really bad smoke
12:49 Denyerec :/
12:51 Fanty Jigal: you know if that means its already implemented and I'm using the wrong functions to access the db? .. or is it t3lib_db?
12:51 smda when I create an external link in the rte it's wraped with a yellow box with red border.. why? how can I get rid of it?
12:51 Jigal Fanty: I have no idea...
12:52 Fanty Jigal: there's a dbal sysext... I'm gonna take a look
12:56 aempi great fanty, it works this way, wrong size though, but i will find that option by my own i think =)
12:57 Denyerec Oh you know what
12:57 Denyerec when the RTE inserts the little icon by any link
12:57 Denyerec that PISSES me right off
12:57 Denyerec it should just apply a CSS class to that link
12:57 Denyerec and let you add an icon in CSS if you wish.
12:57 Fanty aempi: you're welcome. There's nothing stopping you from placing the object in the template either if its the same flash file you use on all pages where you use that template... just dont map anything over the divs where you want the flash
12:58 Denyerec Winds me right up, is there any way to get rid of it ?
12:58 toms that would be of interest for me too
13:00 Fanty Denyerec: what icon? I dont think I got any icons anywhere
13:00 Denyerec when you create a link int he RTE
13:00 Denyerec if it#s external
13:00 Denyerec it drops in an inline image.
13:00 Denyerec well crap
13:00 smda maybe it's got something to do with this Denyerec, toms http://news.typo3.org/news/article/accessibility-feature-in-htmlarea-rte-0-7-2/
13:01 Denyerec and you know what
13:01 smda maybe empty RTE.classesAnchor.elink.image > :S
13:01 Denyerec the one thing you can't define... is a class for the elink
13:01 Denyerec :(
13:01 Denyerec wait
13:01 Denyerec no I misread it
13:02 Fanty Denyerec: I dont have any images on external links
13:02 Denyerec maybe it's been updated?
13:02 smda neither do I.. but I guess that's because I'm using tiny_rte or something..
13:03 Denyerec but in the RTE I see a little image
13:03 Denyerec that I have to delete from the RTE every time I drop in a new external link
13:04 Fanty I use rtehtmlarea 1.5.1dev now.. I used 1.3.6 (I think) before and that one diden't either.
13:05 pulponair is there a api function to translate a pid linkt to a speaking realurl link?
13:05 Denyerec Mmm
13:05 eeos I would like to remove the little arrows that RTE HTMLarea automatically puts on the links. how do you do that?
13:06 Denyerec At least someone has the same problem!
13:06 Denyerec http://news.typo3.org/news/article/accessibility-feature-in-htmlarea-rte-0-7-2/
13:07 Denyerec There is some indication of a solution there.
13:07 Fanty Denyerec: why not just use a newer version of the extension?
13:08 Denyerec I thinkt hat is another solution :)
13:10 eeos Fanty because some time you cannot modify the installtion too much.
13:10 eeos also, how do you install over a system extension?
13:10 Fanty Jigal: same problem with DBAL.. again no exec_REPLACEquery function but a sql_query() function... I'm just gonna stick with sql_query()
13:10 Fanty eeos: you can install it as a local extension
13:11 Fanty eeos: I'm pritty sure it would take precedence over the system extension
13:11 eeos Fanty are you sure, or are you guessing?
13:11 Fanty eeos: 99%
13:11 eeos :D:D:D:D
13:11 eeos worried about the remaing
13:12 Fanty eeos: at least with the 4.0.3 I started working on an plugin for the rte on
13:12 Jigal Fanty: I use a mix of $GLOBALS['TYPO3_DB']->exec_SELECTquery() and ->sql_query() callse :-)
13:13 Fanty Jigal: I like consequence.. i.e. ALWAYS use one or the other :P
13:13 toms I have a scpecial PHP-file which needs an GET-Parameter. In my Typo project i like to link to that file. The parameter is set via the href (...?key=value). If I use Ext. URL in RTE for that the RTE reformats my link, so it is broken. What could I do here?
13:14 eeos and anyway, how doy ou remove the little arrows in the newer extension?
13:16 Fanty eeos: there is no little arrow
13:17 toms denyerec: seems we have do make a screenshot of the arrow, to show here... ;)
13:17 Jigal Fanty: I like to finish the job; preferably in an organised and proper way, but if that's not possible just using the tools I do have at my disposal :-)
13:17 eeos Fanty I am following your dangerous suggestion
13:17 Fanty eeos: good luck! ;)
13:17 eeos Fanty but it only allows me to go up to 1.4.3, not 1.5.1
13:17 Fanty Jigal: you paid by the hour? ;P
13:18 Fanty eeos: think you can download the T3X file from the extensions section of typo3.org
13:18 Jigal Fanty: no, by the month :-)
13:18 Fanty eeos: I couldnt get TER to work yesterday
13:18 Fanty Jigal: you got all the time in the world then..!
13:20 eeos Fanty yes, it works!
13:20 Jigal Fanty: today I do... playing around with AJAX a bit; there's a lot waiting for me on Monday though...
13:21 toms I'll give up for today... No more ideas how to fix
13:22 Fanty Jigal: wish I had the time to really look into AJAX
13:23 smda he.. this was a nifty way of configuring the rte http://tinyrte.outraxx.de/buttonconf/?no_cache=1
13:23 eeos Jigal are you plaing with ajax doing what? what is it used for? i hought it was only a buzzword, like web2.0, or blue sky thinking :D
13:23 caroline hi got a big problem :(
13:23 caroline after updating version 3.8 up to 4.1 Warning: mysql_fetch_assoc(): supplied argument is not a valid MySQL result resource in /Users/<removed>/public_html/t3lib/class.t3lib_db.php on line 796
13:25 Fanty caroline: in the EM?
13:25 caroline Fanty: what you mean with EM?
13:25 Fanty smda: dosent work with firefox
13:25 smda sure it does Fanty
13:25 smda I'm using it there at least ;)
13:25 Jigal eeos: web2.0 is a buzzword used for websites which do not (only) send information to the visitor, but exist of user generated content and rely on user interaction. e.g. YouTube is built on user submitted video; del.icio.us is made of bookmarks and tags.
13:25 Fanty caroline: where do you get those errors? in the extension manager?
13:26 caroline no when i like to visit my website
13:26 caroline theres just nothing, just this failure message
13:26 eeos Jigal I was really talking about this detergent you mentioned ( :P ), ajax
13:26 Fanty caroline: ok, then I don't know.. but you could try going to the install tool to do a database compare
13:27 eeos I have to go, be back in afternoon.
13:27 Fanty smda: oh, xchat opens stuff in Galeon.. not ff.. that might be it ;)
13:27 caroline The Install Tool is locked.
13:27 caroline Fix: Create a file typo3conf/ENABLE_INSTALL_TOOL
13:27 caroline This file may simply be empty.
13:27 caroline For security reasons, it is highly recommended to rename
13:27 caroline or delete the file after the operation is finished.
13:27 caroline Fanty: when i try to open the install tool comes this message:
13:27 eeos enjoy your meal, whoever is oing to hvelunch break :)
13:28 Fanty caroline: follow the instructions?
13:28 caroline what file should i create?php?html???
13:29 Fanty caroline: an empty textfile with no extension
13:29 caroline ok i'll try, brb
13:29 Jigal eeos: AJAX is essentially about modifying part of the page content with JavaScript and data received from a webserver after the page is loaded (Asynchronous Javascript And XML); but most of the time the library has a whole range of widgets and tools that can (if used wisely) improve the user interaction
13:31 caroline Fanty: thanks this step has worked
13:31 caroline what now?
13:32 Fanty caroline: database analyser -> compare
13:32 caroline im there
13:33 Fanty you properly need to run the update wizard too if you haven't
13:35 Fanty anyway to make it based on an option if the EM should create some specific tables on install of the extension?
13:37 caroline Fanty: it works now thank you, but my contact form boxes are not more in the sam position, all left alligned
14:02 j0hndeere Good morning, earth humans.
14:10 smda we earthlings welcomes you j0hndeere to this our place of sacrifices and barbarian coding.
14:11 j0hndeere It's good to be back.
14:11 Jigal we non-corporeal life forms also welcome you back, j0hndeere!
14:12 Denyerec Errr, lo John.
14:21 beev0r anyone here got an idea how can i "invert" the excludeUidList in a hmenu?
14:21 beev0r something like includeUidList ?
14:26 tobi special=list does that beev0r
14:27 beev0r and how do i specify the ids of the pages which shall be shown?
14:28 Miriam 20 = HMENU
14:28 Miriam 20.special = list
14:28 Miriam 20.special.value = 35, 56
14:31 beev0r ok i'll try
14:31 beev0r thx
14:33 beev0r seems not to work
14:33 smda beev0r: check TSREF at http://typo3.org/documentation/document-library/references/doc_core_tsref/4.0.0/view/8/11/
14:34 beev0r http://phpfi.com/213881
14:36 Miriam im not sure.. but shall it be that you need to create a tmenu object inside the hmenu object?
14:40 pulponair anyone ever used workspace/versioning?
14:40 pulponair in production environment?
14:40 smda so... I need to display an internal link to a page with parameters. It should align right. How can I do that the esiest way? :) changeable by admin..
14:44 brain-xy does anybody know what could be the cause that the imagetext is not displayed?
14:47 Fanty hmm.. I dont need to add a column added to fe_sessions with ext_tables.sql to the TCA?
15:11 Krebskasper hi - how do i fake a backend user object? i need it for the tcemain object
15:16 redkiwi Hello!
15:16 redkiwi I've a little question about the Google Sitemap Plugin for Typo3 :)
15:17 redkiwi Is there's someone who has a some time to help me out with it?
15:21 brain-xy redkiwi ... maybe i can help
15:22 redkiwi Al right Brain :)
15:22 brain-xy and i got a question at the same time.. has anybody noticed that in his version of typo3 selected pictures .. whcihc are only used once .. are deleted from the fileadmin?
15:23 redkiwi Hmm, i didn't noticed that but so far i know, i've problems with that...
15:24 redkiwi I've insert the Google Sitemap Extension in the backend and it works well. I've put the plugin at a page and when i Preview the page, an XML file is generated with the sitemap. Now, i want to link Google Sitemaps to the XML file that's generated but it isn't clear for me which URL I need to use... The URL from the preview is a PHP URL and Google don't understand that...
15:26 brain-xy hm.. i never inserted the url into google yet.. some other guys did that in my company :p .. but when i used this extension last time.. i only had a url like http://www.blabla.de/index.php?id=371
15:27 redkiwi Indeed, the same here...
15:27 redkiwi And i've put that URL in Google Sitemaps but they don't like it :)
15:27 brain-xy what do they say?
15:28 redkiwi That there's no sitemap found...
15:29 brain-xy hmm..
15:29 brain-xy and the xml is generated correctly?
15:31 redkiwi Yes, when I preview the page the plugin is inserted, i get a beautifull XML file :)
15:31 redkiwi Wait for a few seconds please :)
15:31 redkiwi i think ive a solution
15:37 Krebskasper can't anyone tell me how to create a backend user object which is not fetched from $GLOBALS['be_user'] ??
16:08 eeos hi everybody
16:08 eeos I have a problem.
16:10 eeos in the BE, we are trying to load in the select field the content of a column in a foreign table. This content has to be used both as label and as content.
16:10 eeos I have been able to load it as labels, but the content is just the record number. :(
16:11 eeos whilst I want the content of a specific column to be passed on help!!!!
16:11 eeos this is the code
16:12 eeos http://phpfi.com/213897
16:17 King76 Hi
16:17 King76 Do you are expert with TCA ? ;)
16:18 King76 I want to position field in palette number 4 after linkToTop.. this is my code :
16:18 King76 t3lib_extMgm::addToAllTCAtypes("tt_content","tx_tcafadq_date_fce","","after:linkToTop;;4");
16:18 King76 but it don't work ;-(
16:18 King76 this is new code correct : $TCA['tt_content']['palettes']['4']['showitem'] = 'sys_language_uid, l18n_parent, colPos, spaceBefore, spaceAfter, section_frame, sectionIndex, linkToTop, tx_tcafadq_date_fce';
16:19 King76 Do you have solution with t3lib_extMgm::addToAllTCAtypes ?
16:19 eeos hi. I need to place the content of a column in a table in a select field in the BE.
16:20 eeos I have been able to place the content of the lcolumn as a label, but not as content. How do you do that?
16:34 brain-xy gnaa.. is there actually an option to delete used files from the fileadmin?!
16:47 eeos brain-xy what do you mean?
16:52 Krebskasper_ can't anyone tell me how to create a backend user object which is not fetched from $GLOBALS['be_user'] ??
16:54 brain-xy eeos .. when i select a file in .. image with text for example.. and then save it .. the file is deleted.. and i don't know why..
17:06 vagy hi ladies and gentelmen
17:08 vagy i've been trying without success to make the sr_feuser_register plugin render the countries list (in the new user registration form) in the site's configured language (multilingual site)....any insight on that?
17:08 eeos brain-xy that sounds very strange
17:08 brain-xy it is..
17:09 eeos brain-xy never heard of such a thing.
17:09 brain-xy and it is.. imho.. some extension who does this but i don't find such a ext
17:16 aempi how can i replace the textlinks of the lz_gallery with icons?
17:17 aempi i tried setting a background image for the surrounding image and set text-size to zero
17:17 aempi but then nothing happens when i click
17:18 aempi and the textlinks are a bit ugly :/
17:20 eeos brain-xy are you using DAM extension?
17:20 brain-xy no
17:24 eeos brain-xy have you tried to see which extension is accessing the fileadmin folder?
17:24 brain-xy no.. not yet.. and i dont't know how :P
17:30 Irix_1 Hey everyone, I have tt_news set up but my latest won't automatically update.. first when I clear the cache it works.. anyone know a solution ?
17:31 Irix_1 news module with latest records.. that is..
17:32 Irix_1 :)
17:39 vagy Irix_1: you need to use a TSConfig steatment that instructs typo to automatically clear the cache of the page(s) showing the news (in your case the page with the tt_news plugin in LATEST mode)....you have to put this steatment in the TS config of the page that the news records get saved. :-)
17:40 vagy iirc the steatment is clearCacheCmd or something very similar to that...look it up in the docs
17:43 Irix_1 vagy Thank you very much :)
20:04 Denyerec Anyone here ever used Prado ?
20:28 uffi my flatmate did, Denyerec (i am uschi)
20:29 TaucherMK http://typo3.org/documentation/document-library/tutorials/doc_tv_de/current/ <-- Render problems, is there anyway to get the tutorial anyway or can anyone fix the problem?
20:31 Phlogiston hello, anyone here using the moc_fileshare manager? can u tell me if you have a table called tx_mocfilemanager_logs in your db?
20:33 Fabian- i have _files and _mounts, not _logs
21:00 uschi hello folks
21:00 uschi hi Boonkerz
21:01 uschi can someone tell me how to do a little math in t3?
21:01 uschi if i wanted to i just need to subtract something
21:02 uschi {$portal_entrylevel} - 1
21:02 uschi how is my friend called?
21:03 TaucherMK uschi: prioricalc
21:03 uschi merci :)
21:14 TaucherMK there are rendering problems in the templavoila de tutorial, can anyone fix this problem or give me an old version of it?
21:15 uschi you mean ftb1, TaucherMK?
21:15 TaucherMK dov_tv_de
21:15 uschi no, i do not have it
21:16 TaucherMK thx anyway
21:16 uschi i only have futuristic template building
21:16 uschi no prob
21:17 uschi hm, the easy solution does not work: entryLevel = {$someconstant} -1
21:51 nkuttler when i add this http://phpfi.com/214024 config to realurl the standard fe login breaks. any ideas?
21:54 Denyerec lo
21:54 nkuttler i end up at / and the user is not logged in
21:54 nkuttler :-) i won't give up but am apparently not smart enough to fix it myself
22:02 nkuttler actually, it only breaks if i try to redirect to a page that only logged in users can view. public pages are fine, redirect + login works...
22:03 nkuttler let's see... i'll just restrict the rights to content, not the page itself
22:06 nkuttler ok... fine. whatever. problem kind of solved. time for a drink.
22:38 JFrasier hello I have a question about attaching javascripts in the template setup field. I have the google tracking js and a common js that handles my drop down scripts etc. Does each script need to be assigned a different page.headerData number?
22:38 JFrasier at the moment they are both set to page.headerData.30.value=""
22:39 JFrasier and since I added the googe script my drop down no longer works
22:39 TaucherMK look at your html source you get and control what is written in there
22:40 JFrasier in the HTML source it is only showing the googlescript.js and not the common.js
22:41 JFrasier so if I set the common.js to page.headerData.30 and set the google to page.headerData.31 would that work?
22:42 TaucherMK post your code for deeper support, otherwise, try 31 ;-)
22:43 vagy anybody having problems with TMailform and multilingual labels not showing?
22:44 JFrasier yup that fixed it I see how it works now. Thanks anyways Taucher
22:56 Phlogiston Fab1an-: are you still there..?
22:56 Phlogiston hello, anyone here using the moc_fileshare manager? can u tell me if you have a table called tx_mocfilemanager_logs in your db? Here the the db files has like 20000 entries, is this normal? Do you have so many entries too? Thanks a lot
23:16 uschi someone still awake having experience with doktype shortcut and CUR and ACT in menues?
23:28 Denyerec In what way Uschi?
23:28 uschi i have a menu
23:28 uschi you remember the story about my portals?
23:29 uschi so i have the start page of such a portal
23:29 uschi let us say: German as a foreign language uid 454
23:30 uschi below that is page of doktype shortcut "home" with uid 4711. the target of the shortcut is German as a foreign languag
23:30 uschi e
23:31 uschi menu works fine apart from the fact that the menu states CUR and ACT are not respected for my shortcut
23:32 uschi tobi recommended a snippet from typo3wizard.com (http://www.typo3wizard.com/en/snippets/menus/externe-links-und-shortcuts-direkt-im-menue.html)
23:32 uschi but it does not work because the doNotLinkIt = 1 is not respected in CASE 4
23:33 uschi so i get two nested links for home: the outer links to the shortcut itself and the inner to the target page
23:33 uschi understand what i mean Denyerec?
23:34 Denyerec Hmmm.
23:34 Denyerec I seem to remember coming across the shortcut cur/active thing
23:34 uschi and?
23:34 Denyerec and it's because page 5 is active, but the shortcut is for example page 55
23:34 uschi right
23:34 uschi o yes please
23:35 Denyerec http://wilcoding.xs4all.nl/Wilco/Pastecode/4302/showpaste.aspx
23:35 Denyerec That's what I used to point fix the shortcut links.
23:35 Denyerec This *may* be the same code you're looking at.
23:35 Denyerec My implementation was a lot simpler.
23:36 uschi no, it is different
23:36 uschi because it uses allStdWrap
23:37 uschi and override
23:37 uschi this might do the job :))
23:37 uschi if have to understand what you coded there
23:38 uschi no, i do not have to
23:38 uschi i think i got it
23:38 Denyerec it basically re-writes the typolink with the target of the shortcut
23:38 Denyerec rather than the shortcut page ID itself.
23:38 uschi yes this what tobis solution does
23:38 Denyerec From there, ACT and CUR should behave.
23:38 uschi but in a different way
23:39 uschi ok
23:39 uschi i will try
23:39 Denyerec I don't know where I got mine from.
23:39 Denyerec I refuse to believe that I came up with it myself.
23:40 uschi i will try it out
23:40 uschi why do you put ACT to doNotLinkIt?
23:42 Denyerec I haven't the faintest idea.
23:42 Denyerec Oh
23:42 Denyerec I probably wanted CUR to be donotlinkit
23:42 Denyerec as you don't want to click on the page you're on already
23:42 Denyerec or... something
23:43 Denyerec it's possible that that bit didn't make it to the final site,
23:43 Denyerec I often cut the snippets out and save them when I get them working
23:43 uschi ok

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