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#TYPO3 IRC log from : Saturday 19 May 2007

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01:14 j0hndeere Good evening, earthlings.
05:06 just2b__ hi
05:16 mkultrax yo
05:25 theanomaly I'd appreciate some input on the following - i'm going to be converting a site to typo3 here soon and TemplaVoila made it extremely easy to import the old site and start using the old layout to add content, however I worry about the maintainability of that solution because it looks like it doesnt so much derive a template from the old site as it does use the old site as a template; will this inhibit long-term maintainability?
05:29 just2b__ it depends on the quality of the template... i always build the templates new using my coding style
05:30 theanomaly gotcha
05:31 just2b__ and changing tables to divs.. and so on
05:31 theanomaly if i were to build it based on existing html using templavoila, would that make it ridiculously tedious to switch to a newly created template later or would it mostly just be a conversion of the template itself
05:31 theanomaly ie would i have to re-enter any actual site content or could i only pull off the switch using the template
05:32 just2b__ you can simply switch
05:32 theanomaly ok, cool, thanks much; it's sort of a team effort so the sooner i can get some structure where people can enter the content the better, i just want to make sure i wont be screwing myself over for later :p
05:33 just2b__ yeah
06:54 reber hi all
08:51 dokma hi all
08:52 dokma I am translating a huge locallang.php for sr_feuser_register. How is that submitted once I'm done ?
08:59 Co2 hi t3! how can I fetch the title of the content element with an typoscript object path?
09:00 Co2 lib.title = title doesn't work
09:02 dokma hi co2
09:02 Co2 hi dokma
09:04 dokma co2 how are you fetching the content element ?
09:04 Ruudi hello
09:04 dokma hi
09:05 Ruudi has anyone seen an extension that allows users to upload files with comments, and show the list in FE for user itself and allowed admins?
09:07 dokma never done that one
09:07 dokma but does remind a bit of gallery funcionality
09:12 Ruudi sort of yes, but seem slike its easier to code one :)
09:13 dokma probably
09:13 dokma but this functionality is so simple I am pretty sure it is already done somewhere
09:13 dokma the only question is will you need more time to find it or to code it :D
09:22 Ruudi seems so yes, havet found it jet, there are file upload indeed but no commenting with the upload and so on...probably will code it or buy the code :)
09:24 koxmeister has anybody successfully used the pdf_generator with PHP5?
09:47 Co2 dokma what sdo you mean?
09:48 Co2 I have an Typoscript Objet Path (TemplaVoila)
09:48 dokma aahhhh
09:48 dokma I don't use TV
09:48 dokma I'm still at automaketemplate level
10:09 dokma ppl, I just finished translating a huge chunk of locallang.php of sr_feuser_register
10:09 dokma how do I submit this to repository ?
10:26 Co2 solution: lib.title = TEXT lib.title.value = header
10:28 Co2 no solution
10:29 dokma hmmm... I translated all the available english entries in locallang.php for sr_feuser_register but I still get some labels in english
10:29 dokma anyone got idea what this could be? I triple checked that I did translate labels that appear in english
11:12 mh_le cd #samba
11:12 mh_le ops
11:23 Phlogiston hey typo guys :)
11:24 Phlogiston I want to set a different banner image on every first level page... I'm not sure how to do that, I can't remeber. I can get images that are loaded on a page via TS right? Would you do it like that too?
11:24 Phlogiston and on subpages it should get the image recursivly from the page on a level higher :) if you know what I mean :)
12:00 titii hello friends.. there is no one POOL extension? if i am looking for pool in the ext. rep. i found nothing.. can you help? thank you
12:01 titii aaah sorry :) it is poll
12:04 Ries Hey titii
12:04 Ries I think there is tt_pol
12:04 Ries poll
12:04 titii Ries hello, i am gonna try to quickpoll, you mean its better tt-poll?
12:05 Ries quickpoll might be better
12:05 titii ok i go for it :)
12:05 Ries I don't have much xexperiance with poll extensions...
12:07 titii ries otherwise you know about some ext. or another module, it would be something like quick chat in a tree discussion replies? the advantage is quick chat and maybe poll
12:07 Ries let me see what I used in the past
12:09 Ries titii: I used jk_poll one day
12:09 titii ries ah. now i get an idea, is there some with categories? :) you know?
12:11 Ries I think jk_poll can do something like that
12:11 Ries to be honest for that site I hired somebody and that is already like 8 months ago so I don't know the details
12:11 Ries But with different storage folders ia m sure you can do something..
12:11 Ries this was done on a 8 domain website
12:11 Ries so there are options :)
12:16 titii ries, ok i am gonna look at the jk-poll what that says
12:30 titii i cant see something about categories, but i mean no one is there with this option
12:39 titii can you remember me how it is? wrapItemAndSub ?
12:55 Patxi Hi,
12:55 Patxi How can I know the parent uid of a menu element ?
12:56 Patxi page:pid always returns the same id...
13:12 Phlogiston omg
13:12 Phlogiston http://typo3.org/community/people/kasper-s-korner/but-not-for-a-lifetime/
14:01 uschi can someone hurry to my help please?
14:02 uschi i want to add a piece of <style type="text/css"> css stuff </style> into the <head> of my page
14:02 uschi i thought this would be my friend:
14:03 uschi page.headerData.1 = TEXT
14:03 uschi page.headerData.1 (
14:03 uschi <style type="text/css">
14:03 uschi /*Some code*/
14:03 uschi </style>
14:03 uschi )
14:04 uschi but obviously i am wrong, no output at all. it is a tv-page
14:10 uschi Boonkerz, are you there?
14:10 uschi or Ries?
14:18 uschi forget it, found my mistake, .value was missing *grumbles*
14:40 pkern Is it possible to setup some kind of virtual hosts in Typo3 itself? (A mapping from vhost names to content ids.) Otherwise I will write a small dispatcher script, but still I am curious.
15:02 titii omg helou friends i would like to create the sitemap or menu element but if i set the Startingpoint on some subpage, it ignore it and display all the tree from the root. why?
15:03 titii why?
15:04 uschi strange, titii
15:04 uschi let me try it out
15:06 titii uschi let me know
15:06 uschi sure, nearly ready
15:08 uschi in my installation it works, titii, at least if i set the starting point to the page where i put in the sitemap
15:08 uschi i shall set it now to another page
15:11 uschi still works, this time i have chosen a starting point outside the rootline of the page the sitemap is on
15:11 uschi what is your t3-version titii ?
15:12 titii i am using TYPO3 4.1.1
15:17 uschi me too, but it works
15:17 uschi hi koomi :)
15:27 uschi titii, you included css_styled_content in include static from extension?
15:27 titii how you mean from extension, i thing no.. but in the template i thing yes
15:28 uschi this is what i mean :)
15:28 uschi but then i do not know what might be wrong
15:29 uschi wait, i will try in another installation to see how it works there, because i made quite a few adaptations on tt_content.menu.20
15:29 titii uschi i dnot know also omg
15:32 titii uschi but if i use Menu of subpage and this to these pages, it works how i need. but it result just first level of subpages, but i need to go deeper
15:33 uschi give me a second please :)
15:33 titii np uschi, thanx
15:35 uschi titii, you are right, if you do not change anything, the sitemap shows the whole thing
15:35 uschi so i shall give you my changes to tt_content.menu.20
15:36 titii uschi sorry i dont understand, but send it to me, i can try
15:36 uschi titii, you will have to understand
15:36 titii ok
15:39 uschi titii, are you using templavoila?
15:40 titii no
15:41 uschi ok, here is my code
15:41 uschi http://phpfi.com/235343
15:42 uschi since you do not use templavoila you will have to cut out one section, which is this one:
15:42 uschi ## Downlinks: cast in order of appearance auch mit TV
15:42 uschi lines 64-85
15:44 uschi put the rest into the setup section of your template and see whether it works
15:44 uschi titii, still there?
15:44 titii yea i am loogink on it, i try to
15:44 uschi explanation required ;-)
15:46 uschi in the folder where css_styled_content is installed there is a subdirectory static, and in there there are 2 files: setup.txt and constants.txt, a real ts orgy
15:46 uschi in there tt_content.menu.20 is defined, and i did some adaptations
15:48 titii uschi i used the sitemap section, it looks works :)
15:50 uschi i suppose the special.value.field = pages is missing in the original
15:52 titii uschi do you mean is there some frontend form to create page into menu tree?
15:53 uschi i do not understand what you mean, titii
15:53 titii create new page from FE
15:54 uschi as FE User or as BE User?
16:04 titii as FE, but without registration.. public
16:06 Ries uschi: ?
16:18 uschi yes Ries?
16:19 uschi are you calling me because i called you?
16:25 uschi titii, i do not know a solution for your problem, and i still do not understand
16:26 uschi do you really want each and everybody to be able to add pages to your site???
16:29 Ries uschi: yes
16:30 Ries titii: I have done FE page creation once... trust me , it is not simple!
16:31 uschi Ries, my prob resulted from a really silly mistake on my site, and though i read the code time and again, it took some time to realise what was missing, so that prob is solved
16:31 uschi others turn up, though *sigh*
16:36 titii urschi , ries: hmmm i gues its no so simple.. no matter.. i try to find another solution.. i have to create categories and adding the polls into it for the FE (i used .htaccess)
16:38 pkern Is it possible to setup some kind of virtual hosts in Typo3 itself? (A mapping from vhost names to content ids.) Otherwise I will write a small dispatcher script, but still I am curious.
16:56 uschi hm, pkern, you can have multiple domains in one tree, if it is that what you mean
17:19 titii omg i have a problem with tt_poll ext. there is an include(PATH_site.'media/scripts/poll_extTables.inc'); of the file but i am missing that file, and google cant find the source.. omg.. any idea? thank you
17:26 pkern uschi: Yes, and how are they dispatched?
17:27 uschi what do you mean by 'dispatched'?
17:30 Ries uschi: I have a BE user question
17:30 Ries uschi: can I restict user not to move pages, but allow to create pages?
17:31 pkern uschi: How does Typo3 determine which needs to be showed? Is the domain name somehow mapped to an ID in the tree? Or is that something one would have to do by oneself?
17:32 Ries pkern: by default typo3 will try to find a root pages
17:33 Ries actually... he will first try to find a root page with a domainr ecord
17:35 pkern So that's my point... where's that domain record specified?
17:35 pkern Ah.
17:35 pkern Found it.
17:35 pkern Thanks Ries!
17:37 titii any one can help with the source of the file poll_extTables.inc? maybe anyone have a best sources. thank you
17:37 uschi pkern, in the page properties
17:38 uschi and the domain-record on the rootpage
17:38 uschi in list view
17:38 uschi new domain-record
17:38 Ries uschi: I need your help this time :)
17:39 uschi really Ries?
17:39 uschi what about?
17:40 uschi ah, the question above, with the move pages?
17:40 titii hmmm
17:41 Ries uschi: yeaa I have a situation that I have 600 BE users, they cannot move for 6 pages the order...
17:41 Ries that are allowed to create pages under and create pages in... but not move pages for teh one I specify
17:42 uschi i suppose, they are not allowed to delete those pages either?
17:43 Ries indeed
17:43 uschi the ideal solution would be, if you could use be_acl and do something be_acl obviously cannot do yet.
17:44 uschi different rights for the same group on the same page
17:46 Ries I just did read teh be-acl manual.... there is nothing in there really
17:46 uschi i am asking myself, which right on needs to move a page
17:47 Ries may be I sould remove some permission from teh page?
17:48 uschi yeah, i suggest so
17:48 Patxi Hi, is there a way to show a page in menu, even if the access is restricted, so when the user clicks on the link, he's redirected to a login form ?
17:48 Ries uschi: I am setting up the pages as templates anyways
17:48 uschi i suppose you have to remove the edit page right
17:49 Ries but he is allow to manage content on the page...
17:49 uschi this is edit Content
17:50 uschi but the problem is: if you are using TV, then the pages table gets modified, when you add content
17:50 uschi the tv_fields that is
17:51 Ries yeaaa indeed
17:52 uschi but this can be done by the allowed excludefields nightmare, i suppose
17:52 uschi allow edit page, but only the tv-field
17:52 uschi s
17:53 Ries yeaa indeed.
17:53 Ries i think I can figure it out
17:53 Ries we are almost ready to role out 600 BE users :s
17:53 uschi fine, so i will come back to you, if i am really into this BE users stuff
17:54 uschi i do find it very inconvenient to add users to groups
17:54 uschi or to multiple groups
17:55 uschi how do you handle that?
17:55 Ries I currently have an import script
17:56 Ries and new BE users are going to get automated
17:56 Ries Hmm now I thik of it, I think kraftb created something for that
17:56 Ries but henever released it
17:56 uschi what a pity
17:56 Ries in my case all BE users are strict, and have a fixed page tree to work in
17:56 uschi there is an ext by ingo renner, updated today, that makes things easier
17:57 uschi i found another one, that is nice for adding to groups (be and fe users)
17:57 Ries what extension?
17:57 uschi on my way to look it up :)
17:58 uschi i have to find out, under which dev.project i installed it
18:01 uschi Ries: group_mngr
18:01 Ries thanks
18:01 uschi and the one by ingo renner: tc_beuser
18:12 Ries uschi: The manual is useless since it's in german
18:12 Ries My god.. specially from Ingo I expected a English manual
18:16 null0_ god evening ladies
18:16 null0_ +ooo
18:16 null0_ swithc <work>
18:25 titii oooo i cant with any poll ext. create two records (pools) on the one some page. any indea?
19:31 dokma anyone familiar with ext localization here ?
19:32 dokma any1 here at all ?
19:32 uschi well, i am here
19:32 dokma weeee
19:32 dokma nice to chat to you
19:33 uschi :-))
19:33 dokma how well do you joggle localization stuff ?
19:33 uschi depends on, why?
19:33 dokma I just finished translating a huge locallang.php for sr_feuser_register
19:33 dokma for croatian language
19:34 dokma and it does not dig my work at all
19:34 dokma it still keeps half the labels in english
19:34 dokma so I went on searching and I found out
19:34 uschi well, with sr_feuser_register, localisation is a nightmare
19:34 dokma there is an l10n folder
19:34 uschi because localisation stuff is completely out of order
19:34 dokma and it is pulling labels from there
19:34 dokma really ?
19:34 uschi there is something in the docs
19:34 uschi yes
19:34 dokma could you point me towards the docs
19:34 uschi localisation works ... but
19:34 dokma I need to do some reading
19:35 uschi the docs are not really helpful in this case, so what i did is:
19:35 uschi wait, have to check it again
19:37 uschi you have to copy the xml-files
19:38 uschi right, there we are
19:39 dokma could you be a bit more specific
19:39 uschi see pm
19:54 Ries dokma: make sure you send it to teh maintainer of sr-fe_user..
19:55 dokma I will
19:55 dokma as soon as I figure out how to make the whole think work
20:18 daemonicus hello, maybe anyone can help me. I have just installed Typo3 on my webspace, the database is on and functional, but the backend won't let me in to configure anything
20:21 daemonicus nobody here who can help me?
20:27 m00n daemonicus, have you installed the dummy site ?
20:34 dokma uschi
20:34 Ries m00n: I think he want's us to call him, fly over there and help him for free
20:35 m00n yeah maybe :)
20:35 m00n in case - he didn't an address :D
20:35 dokma daemonicus (I hate demons) what is your exact procedure you performed so far ?
20:36 m00n dokma, he's gone
20:36 dokma ah
20:36 dokma fast quiter
20:36 m00n yep
20:37 dokma I am having a translation nightmare with srfeuserregister
20:37 dokma I made a huge translation effort that turned totally useless in the end
20:37 dokma it just does not work
21:52 titii dokma use II-XML translation extension
22:26 Amirsan hey, I have an important question
22:26 Amirsan about finding a host
22:26 Amirsan and Typo3
22:27 Amirsan is there anything I should be aware of as I look for a host to use typo3?
23:05 Amirsan hey
23:06 Amirsan is there anything I should be aware of as I look for a host to use typo3?
23:12 Fab1an- yes
23:13 Fab1an- imagemagick
23:13 Amirsan that's it?
23:13 Amirsan what about like CPU usage
23:13 Amirsan can I use a shared hosting package with Typo3?

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