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#TYPO3 IRC log from : Monday 21 May 2007

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00:00 bedlamhotel Do you want the reload, or would you be willing to show all 6 items on a page if js is not available?
00:00 Denyerec Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
00:00 Denyerec I know what you're thinking
00:00 bedlamhotel Yes, I know ;-)
00:00 Denyerec show all 6 large, and re-write them into thumbs with JS
00:01 bedlamhotel We had this conversation before :)
00:01 Denyerec Yeah.
00:01 bedlamhotel Not rewrite them into thumbs, but show the thumbs with js.
00:01 Denyerec AYe.
00:01 Denyerec You do that somewhere.
00:01 Denyerec Or have at least pointed me to an example.
00:01 bedlamhotel In any case, my next question would be 'how do you want to handle the other info in the page?'
00:01 Denyerec still have the notes I made somewhere.
00:02 bedlamhotel Would you rather make pages and add the stuff to the media field, or have a proper db structure with that information in it?
00:02 Denyerec Other info could easily be a FCE with the respective fields.
00:02 Denyerec Or could be a record in a DB table.
00:02 Denyerec I would say "whichever is easiest to implement"
00:02 bedlamhotel *L*
00:04 Denyerec Given that whatever I jump for on the gallery side of things might want to be refactored elsewhere on other pages as an impromptu gallery, I'm prepared to treat them as separate entities
00:04 Denyerec So in this instance, I'm not concerned with the other information and would happily deal with it with normal content objects.
00:04 bedlamhotel Well, I don't see you doing it flexibly with TS if you're want the page reload.
00:06 bedlamhotel Hey, do you know about...
00:06 Denyerec I'm seeing a plugin that does something similar to the image and caption content element.
00:06 bedlamhotel ...shoot. Can't recall the name. Peter Klein's extension for showing enlarged versions of thumbnails...
00:06 Denyerec multiple images, and multiple captions 1 per line
00:07 Denyerec or perhaps something to just add multiple image record types to a page.
00:07 Denyerec and a plugin to grab all the image records
00:07 bedlamhotel one moment.
00:07 Denyerec User Unfriendly :/
00:07 bedlamhotel What is?
00:07 Denyerec Adding records to a page in the list module.
00:08 bedlamhotel Why would you have to do that?
00:08 Denyerec NOt as easy as telling a client "Click add gallery, then select files"
00:08 bedlamhotel pmk_slimbox
00:08 bedlamhotel Have you seen it?
00:08 Denyerec because I'm thinking of ways to do this
00:08 Denyerec and am not very experienced?
00:08 Denyerec Yes I know slimbox
00:08 Denyerec client does not want.
00:09 Denyerec client wants 6 small thumbnails that, when clicked, load into a slightly larger image on the same page.
00:09 Denyerec Where 6 == some number
00:09 bedlamhotel BUT...
00:09 bedlamhotel what doesn't the client want about slimbox etc?
00:10 bedlamhotel ...because IF it's the enlarged version, think about that fact that it's just CSS...
00:10 Denyerec No superlarge version on the new site.
00:10 bedlamhotel You don't need one.
00:10 Denyerec Bear in mind I'm using this purple site as an exaple
00:10 bedlamhotel You can set the max size of the enlargement using TS constants.
00:11 Denyerec slimbox pops the target image up on an overlay, right ?
00:11 bedlamhotel ...and you could rewrite the styles for the div containing it so that it showed up where and how you wanted.
00:11 bedlamhotel The only thing is that without javascript, you get a new page instead. I can see where that might be a deal-breaker for some clients.
00:12 Denyerec The solution you suggest is a pure JS one
00:12 bedlamhotel 'pure'? No.
00:12 Denyerec IE, use JS to intercept links with rel="slimbox"
00:12 Denyerec or whatever it is
00:12 bedlamhotel yes. Without js--as I mentioned--you get the image in a new page.
00:13 Denyerec to instead, rewrite the SRC of an existing image (The larger one) with the target URL
00:13 Denyerec If the page could handle a GET param and set the URL of the IMG tag based on that, then it'd be the ideal :)
00:14 bedlamhotel For that, I think you need to write your plugin. But look: you must be at least reasonably proficient in php to have written the existing site you're referring to, right?
00:15 Denyerec Yeah, but that didn't use TYpo3
00:15 Denyerec whihc frankly scares the shit out of me.
00:15 Denyerec Writing things from scratch is easy
00:15 Denyerec Writing things for Typo looks like a mission from the Gods.
00:16 bedlamhotel Use the kickstarter. You won't have any big problems since you /already/ know how this can be done.
00:16 bedlamhotel The only recommendation I'd have for anyone who's never written a TYPO3 plugin before is to pass ALL your output through TYPO3's TS functions;
00:17 bedlamhotel ...make links with .typolink, make images with IMAGE and so on. And write all your config into the static TS file. Then you should be able to reuse the code.
00:17 bedlamhotel Depends on budget though :-)
00:17 Denyerec Nonexistant, as usual.
00:17 Denyerec If I had a budget I'd hire someone :)
00:17 bedlamhotel *L*
00:18 bedlamhotel So write some of it off to R&D. You might want to strongarm the client a bit too. I have often seen budgets magically increase when the features the client really /wants/ are on the line.
00:19 Denyerec To get it straight in my head
00:19 Denyerec I'm gonna need a plugin which utilises a standard image selector box that allows multiple images and captions
00:19 Denyerec much like the images content element
00:19 Denyerec then some PHP to control how those images are output
00:20 bedlamhotel Yes. File selection part is easily done in the kickstarter. Output is more-or-less up to you.
00:20 Denyerec Yeah... and a plugin can use GET vars
00:20 Denyerec So you're saying if I use the API "image" commands
00:20 bedlamhotel If you select the right options in the kickstarter you can get a table based output right off the bat
00:21 bedlamhotel Yes!
00:21 Denyerec I can create thumbnails etc
00:21 Denyerec ok
00:21 bedlamhotel Otherwise you end up with extensions (like tt_news that I was somewhat unfairly ranting about the other day ;-)), where hardly anything is a cObject, and you have relatively limited control.
00:21 Denyerec Ah yeah
00:22 Denyerec I have a better understanding of what you mean now
00:22 Denyerec too much bespoke code, not eough passed through typo functions to allow control in TS
00:22 bedlamhotel But for your purposes here, I think you could set up TS to provide all your image configuration options for your images /except/ the .file parameter which your php code could handle.
00:22 bedlamhotel Yes, precisely.
00:23 Denyerec I wonder how much info there is in the slimbox plugin
00:23 Denyerec as that interfaces with the image controls
00:23 Denyerec but it adds functionality, rather than re-implementing it
00:23 bedlamhotel tt_news contains a lot of 'historical' code ;-)
00:23 bedlamhotel the pmk_slimbox extension is /only/ TS. No php at all.
00:25 bedlamhotel ...I get the impression that that's why Peter wrote it.
00:29 Denyerec Must fiddle with the standard link generation and then include the custom JS
00:29 Denyerec Will be of interest to see how the TS interacts with the standard image controls.
00:29 Denyerec Though having said that, my plugin won't be privvy to that will it
00:30 null_0 I do have a plain list with emails. and i want to send a newletter via directmail.
00:30 null_0 But directmail only sends plain text.
00:31 null_0 can i force html mails with a plain email list?
00:31 bedlamhotel denyerec: that is the advantage of using TS extensively in your plugin: you can use existing stuff. If pmk_slimbox is rewriting the default imageLinkWrap etc, you can use it too.
00:31 Denyerec Mmm?
00:31 Denyerec If I use the kickstarter to include an image selection box
00:32 Denyerec how do I swipe the TS to make it behave so and wire it all together?
00:32 null_0 all users that subscribe they get html mails, but if i use a plain, direct mail only sends plain
00:32 bedlamhotel denyerec: here's the meat of pmk_slimbox: http://typo3.org/extensions/repository/view/pmkslimbox/1.1.0/info/static%252FSilmBox_tt_content%252Fsetup.txt/
00:32 null_0 hi ris
00:34 Denyerec parameter.cObject = IMG_RESOURCE parameter.cObject.file.import.data = TSFE:lastImageInfo|origFile
00:34 Denyerec I see those as hooking into the image control from my form/plugin somehow
00:34 Ries bedlamhotel: teh first 2 yes, the last one not....
00:35 bedlamhotel ries: too bad. Though the good thing about crazy is that no one can take it away from you :-)
00:35 Ries well... hopefullt it will be a solution for typo3 community sites where each member can have it's own gallery, contact forms and other stuff
00:35 bedlamhotel Denyrec: that gobbledygook just gets the url of the original file :-)
00:35 Denyerec damn,
00:35 Denyerec Well where does it know to look at IMG_RESOURCE?
00:36 Ries bedlamhotel: I really hope to release this extension in 2 or 3 months
00:36 bedlamhotel denyerec: what does your question mean?
00:36 Denyerec Well
00:36 Denyerec That TS
00:36 Ries bedlamhotel: But ptoperly I need help from this channel when it comes to documentation and translation... and overall tidy up of the extension
00:36 Denyerec I don't see where it references a datasource
00:36 Denyerec EH
00:36 Denyerec EG
00:36 Denyerec "Get list of images from X"
00:36 bedlamhotel denyerec: follow the datatype road :-)
00:37 Ries bedlamhotel: But it contains quite a number of nice goodies like press releases, a multi-user multi-gallery multi-category gallery system
00:37 Ries awards system...
00:37 bedlamhotel you know about the IMG_RESOURCE cObject?
00:37 Boonkerz argh i hate php
00:37 Ries registration...
00:37 bedlamhotel ries: you /are/ crazy. What's its primary use?
00:37 Ries bedlamhotel: it's a system where users can sell objects...
00:37 Ries but not liek ebay,
00:37 Denyerec bedlamhotel - not really no.
00:38 Ries but more they can create there own mini-website and start selling (in this case) art
00:38 bedlamhotel denyerec: just like IMAGE but only returns the url.
00:38 bedlamhotel In any case, there is no LIST in this context. imageLinkWrap function is the top level if you take a look. An that's a function that gets the big image. Check the TSref.
00:39 Ries bedlamhotel: Most plugins stand on there own, so you don't have to use them all...
00:39 bedlamhotel Ries: interesting. We bid on a project recently that had almost exactly those requirements. Don't think we got it though :)
00:39 Denyerec bedlamhotel: that TS must get its data from somewhere, else which images does it know to wrap?
00:39 Denyerec I don't see where it gets its data from :/
00:40 Ries bedlamhotel: Bit on a project?
00:40 bedlamhotel ries: yes.
00:40 bedlamhotel Denyerec: it's /redefining/ tt_content.20.1--I /know/ you've mucked around with that before...
00:40 Denyerec Your memory is far better than mine
00:40 Denyerec Any chance you can remember what I was doing so I can find my code? :/
00:41 Denyerec (I wish that wasn't a serious question)
00:41 bedlamhotel ries: local art school wanted to set something up so they could sell student artwork
00:41 Ries bedlamhotel: if you are interested in helping out with some of teh coding, let me knew
00:41 bedlamhotel denyerec: no idea what you were doing. But look in the TSob, it'll come back to you :)
00:41 Ries bedlamhotel: it could work perfectly for a local art school.... every student could have it's own mini website
00:42 Ries it is going to contain selable objects
00:42 Denyerec tt_content.20.1 is populated because the user filled out some images in an image field
00:42 Denyerec AH_HA!
00:42 Ries FE directory and file management with drag and drop features
00:42 Denyerec So that's where the data comes from...
00:42 bedlamhotel ries: I think they wanted one site with 'categories' for students etc. As I say, I don't think we got it though.
00:42 Denyerec So if I was making my own plugin called plugin.largeMess
00:43 Denyerec I would do something akin to plugin.largeMess.1 < tt_content.20.1 to "borrow" the processing?
00:43 Ries categories are also build in... global categories aswell as student own categories (in the form of directories)
00:43 Denyerec or am I way off target ?
00:43 bedlamhotel Ries: if you need help with docs, I may be able to help...though my schedule is absolutely insane.
00:43 bedlamhotel Denyerec: you've hit the bullseye basically.
00:43 Ries bedlamhotel: what do you think about my schedule!!!!
00:43 null_0 someone familiar with directmail?
00:43 Ries Denyerec: the gallery still might be solething for you...
00:44 Denyerec Very probably Ries
00:44 Denyerec :D
00:44 Denyerec I can help you with English.
00:44 bedlamhotel ries: only that you're on here before me and after me every day.
00:44 Denyerec And humour.
00:44 Ries I need help with localisation... and documentation at the point when I can put it on TER
00:44 Denyerec Oh man
00:44 Ries Denyerec: is there anything wrong with my english?!?!?!
00:44 bedlamhotel ries: localisation in TYPO3 is not my strongest suit ;-D
00:44 Denyerec Nope.
00:44 null_0 the users that subscribe go well, they get html mails. but if i create a email list manualy, they get plain text rendered mails
00:44 Denyerec But that's about all I can help you with.
00:44 Ries bedlamhotel: I can help with that point...
00:45 Denyerec If I could find any members of the Commerce team I'd bloody well strangle them.
00:45 bedlamhotel *L*
00:45 bedlamhotel Denyerec: why?
00:45 Ries I am at 329 lines of TS code :)
00:45 Denyerec OU EST LE MANUEL?
00:45 bedlamhotel Denyerec: Dans la tete.
00:45 Denyerec WO SIND DIE INSTRUKTION BUCHE ?
00:46 Denyerec WHERE'S THE GOD DOMME MANUAL! :)
00:46 Ries waar is nu toch dat installatie handboek?!?!?!
00:47 bedlamhotel Denyerec: it's the sadomasochistic side of the T3 community coming out :)
00:47 Denyerec Indeed :D
00:47 Denyerec No shit bedlam
00:47 Denyerec the description
00:47 Denyerec "A commerce module that does everything"
00:47 Denyerec the manual?
00:47 Denyerec "To Do: Write more documentation."
00:47 bedlamhotel Ries: for one plugin? Not too bad. Check bh_firtools
00:47 bedlamhotel Denyerec: if it does everything, then there is no need for a manual. QED.
00:48 Denyerec hahaha
00:48 bedlamhotel manuals only become necessary when the developer ALSO needs to do something.
02:29 salamandyr i wonder if anyone can give me a hint - cant get a fresh install of t3 up and running
02:30 salamandyr "failed opening required init.php" error.
02:35 Ries salamandyr: sounds like a right issue to me
02:38 |BuriK| hi
02:38 salamandyr thanks Ries. resolved it :)
02:41 Ries Hey Burik
02:42 |BuriK| how to insert php-code into page?
02:59 Ries Burk: use lumo php
02:59 Ries or better, create an extension
04:32 salamandyr can someone remind me where i go to edit typoscript? :)
04:33 tansta click on template
04:33 tansta click on root page
04:33 tansta select info/modify from drop down menu
04:33 salamandyr great thanks :)
04:33 salamandyr couldn't find it
04:33 salamandyr been a while
04:34 tansta no problem :)
04:50 salamandyr can anyone look at my typoscript? i'm trying to make my 2nd level menu items expanded by default, but it's not doing it http://nopaste.com/p/a8aTMdlS3
04:59 salamandyr i know it's .entrylevel = -1, just not sure where it put the value.
05:15 salamandyr also, can anyone tell me what default .css page T3 is referring to for all of it's default content elements?
05:26 salamandyr like csc-firstHeader, for example?
05:44 tansta Ries: what's dojo ?
05:49 salamandyr sigh. anyone know TemplaVoila?
05:51 tansta i do a little bit ;)
05:51 salamandyr :)
05:51 salamandyr well... maybe you have an idea
05:51 tansta okay
05:51 salamandyr i created a template that has a main content area and a sidebar
05:52 salamandyr then added a field for my sidebar and mapped all the relevant bits onto my template
05:52 salamandyr but my "sidebar" doesn't show up as an editable are under the Page menu.
05:52 salamandyr so i think i created the field wrong
05:52 salamandyr but i'm at a loss as to how to fix it
05:53 tansta did you select content element
05:53 tansta when mapping the side bar ?
05:53 salamandyr ya, it has a big "EL" next to it, too :)
05:54 tansta under editing type, did you select content element ?
05:54 salamandyr up
05:54 tansta because if you select other ones it wont show up in the back end
05:55 salamandyr yup, i did
05:56 tansta hmmm...
05:56 tansta never had that problem before
05:56 salamandyr ah well
05:56 tansta are you sure all your mapping are sucessful ?
05:56 salamandyr as usual, i run into problems trying to just work with t3
05:56 tansta and no warning ?
05:56 salamandyr nope
05:56 salamandyr i'll wipe and start over. seems to be all that can fix sometimes
05:56 tansta hehehe
05:57 dax77 morning #typo3 :)
05:57 tansta yep, sometime that's the only way to fix it
05:57 tansta hey dax77
05:57 salamandyr i just wish there was way to delete a page tree at a time, so i don't have to click 590 times to remove a site :)
05:58 tansta there is
05:58 tansta click on setup
05:58 tansta tick the box next to recursive delete
05:58 tansta and save
05:58 salamandyr where is setup?
05:58 tansta under user
05:58 tansta on the left
05:58 salamandyr ah, that setup :)
05:59 salamandyr sweet, thanks
05:59 tansta no problem
06:08 salamandyr thanks tansta, got it working :)
06:08 tansta cool
06:08 salamandyr think i didn't put the content element in as the type last time, and tried to fix it in the xml, which led to weird results :)
06:08 tansta there you go ;)
06:50 d|g hi all =)
06:51 stage Hi
06:52 Phlogiston good morning guys are you already here?
06:55 floxx only physically
06:55 Phlogiston hehe
06:57 Phlogiston I want to have different banners on different pages on my site. But this only for the main pages on a first level. All the sub Pages of such a page should have the same banner. I'm using templavoila and thats how it looks like: http://pastebin.ca/499752
06:58 floxx i would solve this with conditions
06:58 Phlogiston How can I set now that it gets the same image file for subpages? I once did that with the import.override thing for the media field, but how to do that here?
06:58 floxx [PIDupinRootline = 2]only on subpages of pid 2[else]only on pid 2 not on subpages[end]
06:59 Phlogiston floxx: and then how can I get the image?
07:00 floxx well - put the image in an temp object and then copy it into ts object path
07:01 Phlogiston hmm it should be possible that a non admin can change the images
07:01 floxx oh
07:01 floxx :)
07:02 FloLeBlanc hi all
07:02 stage i'd like to integrate my css based rollover menu in ts using tv, can anyone help me ?
07:03 Phlogiston floxx: ok now it works :) Its just a bit bad that you have to upload the image in the advanced page mode under files and the first image is taken then...
07:03 floxx phlogiston: ok :) fine
07:03 Phlogiston stage: yes ;=) yes create a TV object for TS...
07:04 Phlogiston floxx: its not perfect but fine... it would be a bit nice to have it as a TV image object but then that slide stuff didn't work... that actually was my question...
07:04 bauschan hi @all
07:04 MrMilek Hi there. I need to create a menu which only contains items of a specific subtree in backend. Which parameters do i need for that? .entryLevel doesnt do the thing
07:05 FloLeBlanc MrMilek: entry level should work
07:05 Phlogiston you know now I used 10.file.import.overrride.field = media ? That exactly makes TS get the image from that field right? So what would be the correct equivalent thing when I want to use it with TV image object?
07:07 MrMilek So i must move my complete subtree to a deeper level? I have 4 levels. Menu1 contains level1 Menu2 level2 aso. So when my menu-subtree is on level 2 with sublevels they`re included in the other menu
07:08 MrMilek isnt there a param to set MySubtree as root for Menu?
07:11 MrMilek test
07:14 stage i'd like to integrate my css based rollover menu in ts using tv, can anyone help me ?
07:15 tansta Which DAM extension should i use ?
07:15 tansta Rene Fritz seems to create a bunch of them
07:15 tansta is there a package that include all his extension ?
07:16 stage please ?
07:18 stage nobody ?
07:19 tansta stage
07:19 tansta what do you need to do ?
07:21 stage i have a rollover css only based menu and i'd like to integrate it in my typo3 website using tv
07:22 tansta are you using suckerfish menu ?
07:22 stage i don't think as i don't have any idead of what you're talking about
07:23 tansta okay, do you know typoScript ?
07:23 stage a little
07:23 stage i haven't been able to end modern template building tutorial
07:23 tansta you first need to map your menu using TV
07:24 stage already done maping, the page content show fine but the div menu is empty
07:24 tansta select typoScrip object path in the drop down type
07:24 tansta yes that correct
07:24 tansta its empty because you need to use typo script to put menu into it
07:25 stage i found a typoscript, but it doesn't seems to work
07:25 tansta is the name lib.objectName the same as when you map it ?
07:26 stage it's lib.menu in both pages
07:27 stage i think the typoscript is not correct but i'm afraid i can't say where :(
07:31 stage thanks for your help tansta
07:31 tansta did it work ?
07:32 stage i don't how, i didn't changed anything
07:32 tansta when you map the menu as type typoscrip object
07:32 tansta there is a box where you can enter the name eg: lib.mymenu, it was default lib.myObject
07:33 tansta you have to change that lib.myObject to lib.menu according to the code you found
07:33 stage it is lib.menu in templavoila and in typoescript
07:33 tansta that means it should show something
07:39 Phlogiston can anyone tell me why there is this small line because of the +/- link? How can I get rid of it? http://www.zurichfilmfestival.com/de/zueri_info/hotelguide/
07:40 stage i'm back sorry tansta
07:40 tansta its cool
07:40 tansta is your menu working yet ?
07:40 stage No
07:40 tansta or is there anything showing ?
07:40 tansta show me the script you found
07:40 stage the only thing which is not showing is the menu
07:41 tansta that's because there is something wrong with your TS
07:41 stage how can i show it to you ?
07:41 tansta read the topic
07:41 tansta http://phpfi.com
07:41 tansta paste it there
07:42 stage http://phpfi.com/235733
07:42 Tsoots any idea why i cannot login to be from box1 even it's possible from box2, i'm however able to login to be on a site running on another server from box1 so browser configuration should be ok
07:44 tansta stage: in your TV mapping, change the typoscript object name of your menu to lib.menu_1
07:44 tansta or change the TS to just lib.menu intead of lib.menu_1
07:44 tansta just do either one of them and it should show something
07:44 tansta i've got to go now
07:45 tansta i am sure someone here can help you, its an easy problem
07:45 stage i've been working on it for 2 weeks
07:45 tansta see ya all
07:46 stage can anybody else help me ?
07:48 FloLeBlanc with which code do you assign lib.menu_1 on your page? (never worked with TV only know this with automaketemplate)
07:48 stage look here http://phpfi.com/235733
07:49 FloLeBlanc stage: in this code you create a menu object in lib.menu_1, but how do you put that on your page? normally you have something like page.20 < lib.menu_1 (I could be wrong though regarding TV, never used that as mentioned)
07:49 floxx Phlogiston: u mean this small grey square over the menu?
07:50 stage i don't have to put page.20 < lib.menu_1 in my TS as TV is here to handle it by itself
07:51 FloLeBlanc ok
07:51 stage as i don't understand how typoscript works i can't solve this
07:52 FloLeBlanc typoscript is (correct me someone else if I'm wrong) just a big big big php array
07:53 stage i have a TS for a dynamic menu (which works) but i need to use css rollover menu
07:54 FloLeBlanc suckerfish?
07:54 floxx stage: try this:
07:54 floxx lib.menu_1 = TEXT
07:54 floxx lib.menu_1.value = hello world
07:55 floxx should show "hello world" on your page
07:55 floxx if not, sth is wrong mapped or another problem, if yes, ts of your menu was wrong
07:55 stage Yes it works
07:55 floxx ok
07:56 floxx now try this: http://phpfi.com/235736
07:57 floxx it's the standard 2 level menu i'm using
07:58 stage it's working
07:58 stage but not yet what i need
07:58 floxx ak - what do u need? do u have an example?
08:00 stage http://www.aplus.co.yu/adxmenu/examples/vlr/
08:00 stage i already have html/css code working perfectly
08:00 stage all I need is to tell Typo3 to generate the li / ul HTML code
08:01 floxx ok, mouseover is realised with css?
08:02 stage yes
08:03 floxx mmh if i'm right, you only need an menu thats expanded on all levels...right? and if subpages, it has to get another class
08:04 stage i'm not sure to understand what you just said
08:06 stage sorry :(
08:06 floxx ok. i try it in other words: first of all: your menu should be expanded on all levels
08:07 stage ok
08:08 floxx you get this through lib.menu_1.1.expAll = 1
08:08 floxx ah i see, its already in your code example
08:08 stage at the beginning or the end of the ts ?
08:09 floxx doesnt mater
08:10 stage it put it, but the html generated code is still <div id="menu"><ul class="menu"></ul></div>
08:12 floxx try this: http://phpfi.com/235741
08:13 Co2 is it possible to set the CE header type by Typoscript?
08:15 stage the CE header ?
08:16 stage the script you gave me works
08:17 stage i'm getting closer to what I need
08:17 Co2 yes
08:18 stage everything shows with your script
08:18 Co2 stage you can set the Content Element Header via eader->more option->Type [normal, layout1-5 hidden]
08:21 stage my css used for the functionnality of the menu is not well defined
08:22 stage i'm trying something
08:23 floxx stage: well...it's hard work i know, i actually did the same thing here: gontermann-peipers.billiton.de
08:24 stage the issue here is that is have <style type="text/css" src="style_template_tv_maisons.css"></style> but i should have <style type="text/css" src="fileadmin/templates/main/style_template_tv_maisons.css"></style>
08:26 floxx page.includeCSS.file1 = fileadmin/templates/main/style_template_tv_maisons.css
08:27 floxx page.includeCSS.file1.media = screen
08:29 stage It works even better
08:29 stage almost perfectly
08:29 floxx fine :)
08:30 stage but the first level element show two per line, they should be alone
08:37 Phlogiston hmm sorry my PC crashed someone said something to me I thinkg, can someone copy it please
08:40 stage floxx > it work at 100% of what I needed
08:40 stage thanks for your help
08:41 floxx stage: no problem ... de rien ;)
08:41 stage mdr
08:53 floxx stage: what means mdr? (i'm not native french :) )
08:56 stage mdr = lol
08:57 smda http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=mdr :)
08:57 stage but how do you translate "de rien" in english ?
08:58 smda stage : "that's ok"? :S
08:58 smda (I don't speak french btw)
08:58 smda :D
08:58 stage lol ok
08:58 smda love google http://www.french-at-a-touch.com/Words-Phrases/basic_phrases_links.htm
08:58 stage never mind
09:00 stage thx for the link
09:04 markus2h hello, my name is markus, im new to typo and got a question: dam is not generating thumbnails, can someone give me an idea where to look whats wrong?
09:05 Fanty I have a relatively non-dynamic content typo3 site.. I wish to export this to static html documents. How do I go about doing this?
09:07 smda markus2h, have you checked that your image handling settings are ok under "install" of typo3?
09:10 Fanty only possible to export to static html pages using simulateStaticDocuments and then using a webcrawler on the site?
09:11 FloLeBlanc stage: you're welcome <=> de rien , I guess
09:13 markus2h i think they are ok, but i dont exactly know if i've found all buttons to turn for imageprocessing
09:20 markus2h where have i to look for the of imagehandling (resize or convert) ?
09:24 m4rtijn hey
09:25 m4rtijn would anyone know why my changes in the BE RTE in html mode aren't saved
09:25 m4rtijn I have a text w. image .. and try to insert an id = "some" in the RTE.. but as soon as I save and edit again.. its gone
09:26 Phlogiston any tt-news freaks here? I want to remove the p tag from the shorttext shown in the list module... you know what I mean?
09:29 dax77 Phlogiston: I think thats in rte parse func
09:32 dax77 Phlogiston: have a look at: lib.parseFunc_RTE.nonTypoTagStdWrap.encapsLines
09:38 FloLeBlanc hmm does "include template on the next level" mean only on the next lvl or "on all of the next levels (sublevels)
09:40 Phlogiston dax77: hmm but that field of the subtext is not editable with RTE
09:41 MarwolTuk hello..
09:41 markus2h <smda>problem of imagehandling solved - wrong spelling :-(
09:41 dax77 Phlogiston: well, thats not necessary, you should have a look if it gets parsed through pi_RTEcssText()
09:42 Phlogiston dax77: exactly, and that in the sourcecode right'
09:42 dax77 yes
09:43 MarwolTuk does someone know how to ad a numer in front of search resuls? so there is 1 - first result, 2 - second result, and so on...
09:44 dax77 Phlogiston: is the shorttext = teaser?
09:45 Phlogiston dax77: I mean subheader ;)
09:46 Phlogiston I think if subheader then subheader else get from normal text and cut
10:10 dokma hi all
10:11 dokma I've got some adwords questions
10:11 dokma anyone know what would be a good channel to ask ?
10:18 dokma anyone here ?
10:18 m4rtijn yep
10:19 m4rtijn hi dokma :p
10:19 dokma u into adwords ?
10:19 dokma hello mate :)
10:19 m4rtijn I havent got a clue what that is
10:19 m4rtijn :p
10:19 dokma sure you do
10:19 dokma you see it every time you make a google search
10:19 dokma it's sponsored search results
10:20 dokma on google
10:20 m4rtijn the right bar?
10:20 dokma yes
10:20 dokma and the top orange one
10:20 dokma when it show
10:20 dokma s
10:20 m4rtijn ah..
10:20 dokma which is not every time like the right one
10:21 dokma do you know which channel is best for google discussions ?
10:21 dokma #google is dead
10:21 m4rtijn and adwords.google.com doesnt have enough info?
10:21 dokma I need a specific info
10:21 m4rtijn hmm.. maybe another server
10:21 dokma which is can I change the url after I created and payed
10:22 m4rtijn EFNET #google is quite full
10:24 m4rtijn but 99% ops.. strange
10:25 m4rtijn looks like a scammer channel :p
10:26 m4rtijn hmm.. nobody answers there either
10:47 koomi weird: anyone uses direct mail + tt_news? inserting tt_news entries via insert records (works) but somehow i can't select individual items - looks like the sysfolder gets selected
10:47 koomi aloha btw :)
10:50 m4rtijn hi koomi
10:55 FloLeBlanc koomi: I do
10:55 FloLeBlanc koomi: what is an "individual item" ?
10:57 koomi FloLeBlanc: a single news entry
10:57 FloLeBlanc koomi: that works fine for me with insert records
10:58 FloLeBlanc insert records - select the news entry directly
10:58 FloLeBlanc doesn't that work for you?
10:58 FloLeBlanc (and did you include the tt_news rendering template?)
10:58 koomi FloLeBlanc: it does. but if i select one tt_news entry it shows all entries in that sysfolder
10:58 koomi FloLeBlanc: jep.
10:59 FloLeBlanc hmm weird
10:59 FloLeBlanc had no problems at all using that
10:59 koomi well. might be some inherited value from the main template
11:00 koomi FloLeBlanc: i'm using an extension template for the dm sysfolder
11:00 FloLeBlanc me too
11:00 FloLeBlanc include static: table-based tmpl (tt_news), direct mail content boundaries, direct mail plaintext, direct mail news plain text
11:01 FloLeBlanc (include static from extensions that is)
11:01 FloLeBlanc ah but I checked clear on constants and setup
11:01 FloLeBlanc hmm
11:03 koomi FloLeBlanc: what code did you use? defaultCode = LATEST?
11:03 koomi FloLeBlanc: perhaps that's the problem?
11:04 koomi FloLeBlanc: think it's a bug: if i choose defaultCode = LIST it works
11:04 FloLeBlanc hmm perhaps :)
11:15 koomi FloLeBlanc: what's the best way to insert the unsibscribe/edit profile link in the html version of the newsletter?
11:18 FloLeBlanc http://phpfi.com/235773 18 is my user edit page, actually I did link to the login page due to the fact that non registered or not logged in users would be redirected to the startpage
11:27 koomi FloLeBlanc: so you didn't use ###authcode### markers?
11:27 FloLeBlanc no I did a div in my template and substituted that with my code
11:27 FloLeBlanc (automaketemplate)
11:30 bauschan bye
11:44 FloLeBlanc anyone using jm_gallery and managed to do something like watermarks?
11:45 m4rtijn how do you mean?
11:47 FloLeBlanc I would like to have watermarks on the pictures I create with jm_gallery (singles)
11:49 m4rtijn something visible?
11:50 FloLeBlanc yes like a logo on all pictures
11:50 m4rtijn hmm.. maybe I have some code that might help.. sec
11:51 m4rtijn hmm.. I had some problems with the jm_gallery version which is in the repository.. so I had some email contact with the author
11:52 m4rtijn he send me a version which he is currently using with his templates TS code..
11:52 m4rtijn maybe it can help you.. if you PM me your email I can forward it to you if you like
11:52 FloLeBlanc hmm nice of you thx but the site is live already and I'm a bit afraid of tampering now :)
11:52 FloLeBlanc I thought there would be some TS way?
11:52 m4rtijn yes.. I understand :)..
11:53 m4rtijn I guess yes.. but im not sure if it works on the repository version
11:53 m4rtijn sec.. I'll post it at phpfi
11:53 FloLeBlanc thank you
11:54 m4rtijn http://phpfi.com/235777
11:54 m4rtijn maybe the code for SINGLE can help you
11:55 FloLeBlanc yep.. trying that thx
11:57 m4rtijn yw
11:58 FloLeBlanc hmm I'm afraid this does just nothing for me :(
12:05 smda eh.. :( I've suddenly got "empty haystack" from class.t3lib_tsparser on my server. afaik I've not upgraded anything :S The odd thing is that it occures sometimes in FE but most times in BE. Any clues what's going on?
12:05 smda should I run a tank engine into it?
12:17 koomi gnar. i can send test mails from direct mail but quickmails and mass mails just disappear
12:18 m4rtijn maybe the provider has a mass-mail blocker
12:20 koomi m4rtijn: this is a university server - the mails are sent directly from the server
12:20 koomi quickmails do work tho
12:21 koomi [21-May-2007 14:26:12] PHP Warning: mail() [<a href='function.mail'>function.mail</a>]: SMTP server response: 501 5.5.4 Invalid Address in E:\wwwroot_live\t3lib\class.t3lib_div.php on line 4141
12:21 koomi this might explain why it does not work
12:24 FloLeBlanc m4rtijn: do you happen to know in which file jm_gallery creates the singles and thumbs (aka press "synchronize" in the admin) ?
12:25 MarwolTuk someone good at ts?
12:26 Denyerec Morning.
12:26 Denyerec (Kinda)
12:34 Denyerec http://typo3.org/documentation/document-library/extension-manuals/photo_gals/1.0.1/view/1/1/
12:34 Denyerec anyone ever used this extension ?
12:35 avagraphique no, but there doesnt seem to be much documentation in the manual....
12:35 avagraphique =-(
12:37 Denyerec Aye.
12:37 Denyerec That's why I wondered if anyone had used it.
12:39 Rie1 morning
12:42 Phlogiston hey guys ;)
12:43 Phlogiston FloLeBlanc: hello do you have problems with jm_gallery? =)
12:43 Phlogiston hallo muh-die-kuh
12:48 MarwolTuk mensch, blödes ts... äh... someone kow if, and how it is possible to add a nuber to search results?
12:48 MarwolTuk it should be 1 - first item, 2 - second, ...
12:49 FloLeBlanc phlogiston: not really problems.. rather a missing feature :)
12:49 FloLeBlanc I'd like to include a watermark for the singles
12:51 avagraphique Denyerec: Have you used other galleries. I need to choose one to play with soon, any suggestions?
12:53 roelof hello, if a want to have a link and a plugin in one screen, what sort is then the plugin (Content Element or a typoscript object path) ??
12:57 Denyerec i've never used a typo gallery, sorry avagraphique
13:03 Phlogiston FloLeBlanc: hehe I would like to improve that gallery too... especially the upload feature is crap ;)
13:04 Phlogiston anyone knows of an extension that can get Content with AJAX... I'm going to code an extension that shows various data with ajax
13:05 roelof sorry, phlogiston, im not familiair with ajax
13:06 roelof hello, if a want to have a link and a plugin in one screen, what sort is then the plugin (Content Element or a typoscript object path) ??
13:06 smda Phlogiston: xajax maybe?
13:06 grosser204 hiho! Is there anyone who is using the dam and thinks he is fit?
13:07 grosser204 I've a prob and don't know how to solve it...
13:07 smda grosser204: I'm fit and I'm using dam :) I'm not using it really extensivly with all it's options though.
13:08 Phlogiston smda: i will use xajax as the lib yes
13:08 smda Phlogiston: so your question was not from that side then?
13:08 grosser204 Ok. There is a folder in the fileadmin called x with 800 Files in it...growing day by day....
13:09 Phlogiston hmm no not really... more like: Is there already somthing I could adapt/hack :)
13:09 smda Phlogiston: but xajax already exists :S ?
13:09 smda as an ext I mean
13:10 grosser204 ...the folderstructure is used to build the categorys....
13:10 Phlogiston smda: hmm yes but xajax is just a library...
13:10 smda and then you got http://typo3.org/extensions/repository/view/xajax_tutor/1.0.1/ for referens?
13:10 grosser204 ...until now everything is fine...but...
13:11 smda Phlogiston : or xajax_example for example :) ?
13:11 Phlogiston smda: hehe I read that
13:11 smda :P
13:11 Phlogiston smda: its only a form submission...
13:11 grosser204 ...when I trie ti index the directory again, using the params to modify or update the settings the number of indexed files grows extremly...
13:12 Phlogiston I want to fetch images and other stuff ;)
13:12 smda Phlogiston : k. I've not used it at all so... ;)
13:12 Phlogiston smda: hehe ok we need someone else ^^
13:13 grosser204 there are only 800 files but 3600 files indexed....how can i delete the duplicates?
13:13 smda grosser204: wow.. odd. that, I don't know - straight off at least.
13:14 grosser204 hmmm...
13:16 Denyerec is there an extension that can set the login page image on a per-site basis rather than per-install?
13:16 Denyerec I would love to make it more site specific
13:16 Denyerec EG a gardening image for a gardening website, etc.
13:17 Fab1an|work Does anyone have any idea why the flash logo shows up in FF/IE/Opera but not in Safari? http://eene.wizzbit.net/index.php?id=70
13:20 roelof nobody who knows the answer to my problem ??
13:21 Denyerec Well
13:21 Denyerec it's not so much of a prolem
13:21 Denyerec as simply 2 ways of doing thins
13:21 Denyerec it could be either
13:21 Denyerec a TSOP or a content element
13:22 roelof what's a tsop ??
13:23 Denyerec TypoScript Object Path
13:23 andreasbalzer hi alltogether :)
13:24 roelof aha, and Content Element doesn't work with plugins therefore it must be a TSOP
13:24 roelof or am i mistaking now
13:25 Phlogiston omg where can I read about DCE ICE and that stuff? I thought I read much about t3 development ... gg
13:27 Denyerec What's the most recent version of HMLT Area ?
13:27 Denyerec I'm showing 1.5.1 here, but didn't update.... Does TYpo3 auto-update extensions or something?
13:27 andreasbalzer wait a sec ;)
13:28 andreasbalzer 1.5.2
13:28 andreasbalzer shipped with TYPO3 4.1.X
13:29 andreasbalzer and no, TYPO3 doesn't update extensions automatically. You can install an extension to inform you about new extensions and install them manually then.. But there's no automatic way.. BTW: You won't find htmlarea 1.5.2 in TER
13:30 Denyerec Hmm
13:30 Denyerec I can't find ANY extensions in TER
13:30 Denyerec no matter what I search for i get no resul.
13:30 andreasbalzer maybe you just search for the wrong extensions? :D
13:32 Denyerec Success :)
13:32 Denyerec I have 1.5.1 dev at the mo
13:32 Denyerec that'll do for local testing
13:32 andreasbalzer i think so..
13:49 ckoehler ernesto here?
13:49 ckoehler does he usually hang out in irc?
13:54 FloLeBlanc re
13:57 djg does typo3 endorse a particular js library?
13:59 Rie1 djg: Not really.... I use dojo, others use scriptaculas
13:59 nav hi all
13:59 Rie1 Hey nav
14:00 nav how r u rie1
14:00 ckoehler jquery is nice i have heard
14:00 nav can anybody help me regarding typo3
14:00 ckoehler and prototype is included in the core
14:00 nav ???
14:00 ckoehler <djg> does typo3 endorse a particular js library?
14:01 ckoehler nav, be more specific... :)
14:01 nav i want to add german language support in typo3
14:02 nav i added a german language extension
14:02 nav its installed
14:02 ckoehler have you read the documentation?
14:02 nav yes
14:02 nav but the system is not allowing me to change the language
14:02 FloLeBlanc does anyone know where jm_gallery saves the single images created with resize (which codepart/which file)?
14:03 nav any idea?
14:03 nav im stuck
14:03 ckoehler which docs did you read?
14:03 nav the sxw docs on the website
14:03 nav plus i saw the video too
14:04 ckoehler this one? http://typo3.org/documentation/document-library/core-documentation/doc_l10nguide/1.0.0/view/
14:05 nav wait let me check it
14:08 djg ckoehler: in core? must be well-hidden
14:08 djg ckoehler: ah, sorry found it
14:08 djg protoype is nice - library i know best
14:10 dax77 hi ckoehler
14:10 ckoehler yeah that's what i have been using
14:10 ckoehler i did hear that jquery is more lightweight and really nice
14:10 ckoehler hey mario
14:10 ckoehler how's it going?
14:10 ckoehler was looking for you the other day re your timezone patch
14:10 dax77 disregarding my problems with the designers at work - fine :)
14:10 dax77 and how are you?
14:11 ckoehler yeah don't take those designers too seriously. they can make pretty pictures but that's about it :)
14:11 ckoehler oh kind of upset because I wasted so much time with my adodb extended dates stuff
14:11 ckoehler while it could have been done mostly client side in js...
14:11 dax77 yes, but in this company the result has to meet the picture, doesn't matter how its done
14:12 ckoehler yeah
14:12 ckoehler i like doing that
14:12 dax77 yes, I'm waiting for that ext
14:12 ckoehler it's on the dev list :)
14:12 ckoehler just very much outdated already I suppose
14:12 dax77 I saw the release last week, but didn't have the time to test it
14:12 ckoehler don't bother
14:12 ckoehler will redo a lot of it
14:13 dax77 yeah, my patch is outdate too
14:13 ckoehler really/
14:13 ckoehler ?
14:13 ckoehler how come?
14:13 dax77 well, there is no editor...js anymore
14:13 ckoehler tbeeditor?
14:13 dax77 the rest should work though
14:14 dax77 I think so
14:14 ckoehler where is it?
14:14 ckoehler you mean for 4.2?
14:14 ckoehler because it;s still very much there in 4.1.1
14:14 dax77 either I've done something wrong during the update or its empty
14:14 dax77 I compared it with the latest svn version
14:15 ckoehler you mean jsfunc.tbe_editor.js?
14:15 dax77 yes exactly
14:17 ckoehler hm you're right, it's gone
14:17 ckoehler in svn
14:18 Rie1 ckoehler: why not use teh databases native date/time features if you need to change the DB anyways?
14:19 ckoehler no wait....
14:19 Rie1 But I just read part of typo3.dev... not all :)
14:19 ckoehler dax77, it's in the typo3 dir
14:19 ckoehler not in t3lib
14:19 dax77 ahhh
14:20 ckoehler Rie1, was thinking about that, but how do you handle those in PHP and stuff? Timestamps seems more flexible
14:21 gerards ckoehler: strftime will help you format the strings to the right format before you write to your DB.
14:21 ckoehler just read your thread Rie1 we are using timestamps
14:21 gerards good morning everyone.
14:22 ckoehler I think you guys need to clarify how they are saved in mysql
14:22 ckoehler as a timestamp, or some date string, or what?
14:22 Rie1 ckoehler: well... IMHO bigints are a pain in the ass to hold time properly
14:22 ckoehler how so?
14:22 Rie1 and liek what gerard said, just ask a ISO time from the DB and all languages can use them
14:22 ckoehler they are just like ints but support higher values
14:23 ckoehler if i were to query the db for a date field, I would get an ISO formatted date?
14:23 Rie1 ckoehler: How are you going to store a timezone in a integer?
14:24 ckoehler we're not
14:25 dax77 the problem is more: calculating with date values
14:25 Rie1 ckoehler: you can request a ISO date from teh DB if you like.....
14:25 ckoehler we are saving all dates either in server time or gmt
14:25 ckoehler I still don't understand what I get when I query the db for a date field
14:27 Rie1 ckoehler: you get what you ask for... that is teh trick :)
14:27 gerards dax77 is right. its all the calculating with dates in timestamp format. (not to mention my father can't put his birthdate in typo3)
14:27 ckoehler could you give me an example then of a mysql query and what it returns? Still have no idea what you're saying
14:28 ckoehler plus what mario said :)
14:28 Rie1 ckoehler: I only know it in postgresql.. But mysql works more or less the same
14:29 gerards i don't remember by syntax (and it differs from product to product) but select * from my_table where time < '2001-01-31'
14:29 ckoehler would return what?
14:30 ckoehler integer, string, what?
14:30 gerards (some check my syntax please....) that would return all rows from table my_table where time is earlier than the 31st of jan 2001.
14:30 ckoehler yeah I get that
14:30 ckoehler but if I use PHP and save the result in a variable
14:31 ckoehler what do I get?
14:31 gerards ckoehler: php gets that field in a string.
14:31 ckoehler alright, thanks for the answer!
14:31 gerards php gets EVERY field from a mysql db in a string ( i think )
14:31 ckoehler PHP isn't really picky about types as other languages, but no
14:31 gerards other languages maybe smarter...
14:32 ckoehler anyway, like mario said, strings are hard to work with
14:32 Rie1 ckoehler: How would you handle day light saving if you store all dates in GMT?
14:32 Rie1 and as seconds....
14:32 gerards ckoehler: well formatted strings are the same as integers to work with.
14:32 ckoehler formats are different across the board though
14:33 ckoehler but i guess it's a standard format in mysql?
14:33 ckoehler that would be okay
14:33 ckoehler and Rie1 , I don't know. How do you with date fields?
14:33 Rie1 ckoehler: date handling is standard, specially if you use ISO dates
14:33 Rie1 ckoehler: I store it with timezones and let the undelying libs handle that
14:33 dax77 Rie1: you can calculate the timezone-offset from a given timestamp - adodb might do the same
14:34 gerards ckoehler: the point Rie1, dax77 and I are making is, if you don't need the typo3 BE to understand the field, and you know all the database on which you will install this database structure understands the standard ISO date datatype, then you SHOULD make it a date-time datatype.
14:35 gerards it passes data handling / processing to the layer that has the most information to do that job, the DB layer.
14:35 dax77 gerards: I do agree only partly
14:35 Rie1 I also think you can process data faster if you let the DB handle these sort of things
14:36 dax77 saving a date or time as ISO is ok, but calculating with it doesn't work - you have to convert it again into a timestamp
14:36 gerards what calculations do you need with it dax77?
14:36 dax77 calendar stuff :)
14:36 Rie1 dax77: you can ahappenly calculate with dates....
14:37 Rie1 you can say '2007-02-30' + '1 day'
14:37 dax77 where can I do that?
14:37 gerards mysql can do this select DATEDIFF( '2001-01-31', '2001-02-01') from my_table.
14:38 gerards there are so many built in date functions in all the major SQL products.
14:38 dax77 But guys, I'm not at the db level anymore
14:38 dax77 I'm in my php code
14:38 dax77 and how can I calculate with date there?
14:38 gerards so dax77, you have to ask yourself, what is it that you're doing in the php layer, that cannot be fetched directly from teh DB?
14:38 gerards what do you need to calculate?
14:38 dax77 gerards: recurring event!
14:39 gerards dax77: why can't that be done in the DB layer?
14:39 MarwolTuk is it possible by acsessing a sql-result via field:XX to get out in witch row of the response i am?
14:39 dax77 an event has a given start and recurrs every tue and saturday except november
14:40 dax77 can you do that?
14:40 Rie1 dax77: recurring events are possible in a DB ... but I know your DB is not setup for that
14:40 gerards dax77: i fully agree that there are some things that SHOULD (and can ONLY) be done at php. but i suggest that many things can be done at DB level.
14:40 Rie1 dax77: php does have a date object you can use for date calculations
14:40 dax77 yes, but only > 1970
14:41 Rie1 so instead of we are having a year 2000 problem we intruduce a year 1970 problem again?
14:41 FloLeBlanc dax77: wasn't it you who recommended me the extended date library?
14:41 FloLeBlanc for dates prior to 1970?
14:41 uschi that might have been me, FloLeBlanc :)
14:41 dax77 who me? :)
14:41 FloLeBlanc uschi: then.. do it again for dax77 plz :)
14:41 gerards MarwolTuk: yes. it depends on which Typoscript object you use, CONTENT or RECORDS.
14:42 dax77 currently adodb is the typo3 way to handle dates prior 1970
14:42 Rie1 actually... I know for 100% that typo3 would never use any timestamo fields on the DB level at all
14:42 gerards MarwolTuk: search for renderObj in tsref.
14:42 Rie1 so we can just stop teh discussion about that
14:42 Rie1 But was adodb's time library not designed to handle negative integers as dates before 1970
14:42 Rie1 and it's compatible with our current system?
14:42 FloLeBlanc yes it is
14:43 FloLeBlanc I used it for fe_user_register
14:43 dax77 ckoehler: ^^^
14:43 FloLeBlanc (well actually for a frontend plugin to handle users)
14:43 dax77 he can answer it the best I think
14:43 Rie1 so you just need to plugin adodb's lib and everybody is happy...
14:43 Rie1 and according to typo3's rules we will do all processing in typo3 :)
14:43 gerards or burn in hell.
14:43 FloLeBlanc *bows before the might of t3*
14:44 FloLeBlanc isn't it ironic that jm_gallery is one of the best structured exts I've ever seen but I'm still not able to find the correct place to include a watermark? :)
14:45 dax77 g2g cu 2morrow :)
14:46 ckoehler alright, caught up now
14:46 ckoehler the point of adodb is not negative timestamps
14:47 ckoehler i mention that in one of my replies on the dev list
14:47 FloLeBlanc and I thought the point is enabling negative timestamps :)
14:47 ckoehler the current limitation of dates is that it's only 32 bits
14:47 ckoehler that means timestamps can only be 2^32 max value
14:47 ckoehler which ends up being some date in the year 2038
14:48 ckoehler unix php can handle negative timestamps in the 32 bit range
14:48 ckoehler which makes it possible to use negative timestamps, which makes dates down to 1902 possible
14:48 ckoehler windows php cannot do that
14:48 ckoehler so it can only do 1970 to 2038
14:48 ckoehler unix, thus, can do 1902 to 2038
14:49 ckoehler adodb uses 64 bit integers now
14:49 ckoehler so timestamps can be 2^64
14:49 ckoehler which is so huge you can make dates way in the future
14:49 ckoehler and it's signed, so you can go back to 100 AD I think due to some reason, no idea.
14:49 ckoehler probably date entry...or something
14:49 Rie1 ckoehler: and what about dates in the past?
14:49 ckoehler anyway, that's the point of adodb
14:50 FloLeBlanc nice explaination thx :)
14:50 ckoehler i just mentioned that
14:50 MarwolTuk gerards: can you explain a little more? i'm not relly good in ts yet... the thing i've wanted to do do is to prefix search-reults (title) with an incremented number... starting at 1 for the first result...
14:50 gerards the date Moses wrote the 10 commandments?
14:50 ckoehler Rie1, how far back do you want to go?
14:50 ckoehler before 100 A.D.?
14:50 gerards MarwolTuk: use a <ol> tag.
14:50 FloLeBlanc he only had to write those in stone because his laptop crashed 5 times and god sent him back to the stone age :)
14:51 uschi ckoehler, i am a classicist and ancient historian *smile*
14:51 gerards ckoehler: a lot of literature was written in BC.
14:51 eeos hi everybody
14:51 FloLeBlanc hi eeos
14:51 Rie1 ckoehler: can I store for example 20 feb 1753 entered by a guy from Sweden?
14:52 ckoehler oh come on guys, don't get silly
14:52 ckoehler Rie1, of course
14:52 gerards uschi: please tell ckoehler 64 bits isn't enough.
14:52 Rie1 well.. I am working on a historical database for a museum in typo3
14:53 ckoehler I can't believe you guys...
14:53 MarwolTuk gerards: good idea, but i need a solution for the second page (if one exists), case of it's sence-less to start there with 1 also...
14:53 Rie1 ckoehler: well, you cannot sotr 1753 20feb because that date doesn't exist in Sweden
14:53 uschi if it is only backwards to 100 AD it is definitely not enough
14:53 gerards Rie1: ckoehler is saying that a 64 bit integer can store up to 100 AD.
14:53 uschi ckoehler, i am very serious about this
14:53 ckoehler Dates from 100 A.D. to 3000 A.D. and later have been tested. The minimum is 100 A.D. as <100 will invoke the automatic 2-digit => 4-digit year conversion. The maximum is billions of years in the future, but this is a theoretical limit as the computation of that year would take too long with the current implementation of adodb_mktime( ).
14:53 ckoehler from their website
14:53 ckoehler 64 bit can way store mroe than 100 ad
14:53 uschi i am not interested in future years but in the past
14:53 ckoehler makes sense, if it can go billions of years forward, you sign it and can go billions of years backwards, too
14:53 uschi and i am an ancient historian
14:54 ckoehler that's not the point
14:54 ckoehler you can't do it now
14:54 uschi it is the point!
14:54 ckoehler so adodb is an improvement
14:54 Rie1 ckoehler: can you integer calulcate betweeb 17feb 1753 and 1 march 1753? And how many days would that be? (again a guy from sweden)
14:54 gerards you can with a date datatype.
14:54 uschi and you can do it using pear::date
14:55 ckoehler Rie1, you take the two timestamps and calculate the difference, and you get seconds difference, which you can format to whatever you want
14:55 ckoehler then why has no one proposed a solution using pear::date?
14:56 gerards good question ckoehler. :)
14:56 ckoehler oh maybe not everyone has pear
14:56 elbart moin
14:56 uschi you can use this class as stand alone, ckoehler :)
14:56 ckoehler then let's use it!
14:57 Rie1 ckoehler: do you know the difference for these two dates is one day?
14:57 ckoehler Rie1, and?
14:57 Rie1 ckoehler: and your integer calculation would fail there
14:57 ckoehler no it wouldn't
14:57 ckoehler come in ries
14:58 ckoehler ah i see what you're saying
14:58 ckoehler i think adodb handles that
14:58 ckoehler is that the switch to the gregorian calendar or something?
14:58 gerards sorry guys, if i'm not going to use typo3 BE for date handling, then i'm storing it in native db date data type. If I am using the BE, then i'm stuck with 1970 - 2038 anyway. so i doubt I can be convinced to use timestamps. enjoy your discussions.
14:59 ckoehler gerards, or you could propose a better way and somehow make a prototype for inclusion into the core
14:59 ckoehler i like uschi's idea of pear::date
14:59 ckoehler the description sounds good
14:59 gerards i prefer to use native datatypes.
14:59 uschi gerards, if you do not need dates before 1970 that is fine
14:59 uschi but you need a fallback for those of us, who need dates before that
15:00 gerards for many reasons. all the anomalies in the gregorian calendar. leap years timezone etc. all these can be handled in the php layer (and stored in the db as integer) but as carly simon sang "why walk when you can fly"?
15:00 uschi but as it is now, i cannot even put in my own birthday
15:00 gerards my poor dad doesn't exist in the typo3 world.
15:01 ckoehler there is really not much difference
15:01 uschi because you cannot fly to the 6th of may in 1960 :)
15:01 uschi yes but i do exist in the t3 world
15:01 ckoehler mysql has to save the date as binary
15:01 ckoehler and so does php
15:01 ckoehler mysql has a layer to take care of that, and so does php with adodb and pear::date i guess
15:01 gerards ckoehler: we don't need to worry about how mysql saves the date.
15:02 gerards i think indexes on dates maybe faster too, if you use the native date datatype.
15:02 gerards that's what the date datatypes are for. why walk when you can fly?
15:03 ckoehler did we solve the problem about manipulating those dates in php?
15:03 Rie1 I think it's also more had to have questions answered like 'How many work days are between date1 and date2, which needs php processing, while it can be solved on the DB layer
15:05 ckoehler so instead of computing it in php, i need to make db calls
15:05 ckoehler i would think that slower than a few lines of php code
15:07 Rie1 This is a quote form Celko: "Programmers seem to prevere to write a function that calculates the dates and times to match events...."
15:08 Rie1 ckoehler: I would suggest read Celko's books, and read about temporal data in databases
15:10 ckoehler no thanks
15:10 ckoehler but I will let you make the changes if you want
15:10 Rie1 ckoehler: seriously... it's really interesting reading material...
15:11 ckoehler I have too many other things to read
15:11 ckoehler and that doesn't even sound interesting
15:11 Rie1 ckoehler: celko's books are my bible for databases as tsref is for typo3 :)
15:12 Rie1 ckoehler: and I will not make the change... I am not into core dev, and timestamps will not get accepted anyways (I know the team quite a bit)
15:12 Rie1 so I would suggest start supporting negative integers for dates before 1970 to get something going
15:12 Rie1 then typo3 5.0 can start supporting real datatypes
15:13 ckoehler Ernesto seems very interested in my patch....
15:14 Rie1 ckoehler: I think we all are... me to
15:14 Rie1 seriously...
15:14 Denyerec SET OFF THE TYPO5 ALARM
15:14 Rie1 Denyerec: now() + '5 years' = alarm
15:14 Denyerec Hehehehe
15:15 FloLeBlanc cya all have a nice evening
15:20 ckoehler hm so mysql date fields only support 1000-1-1 to 9999-1-1?
15:20 ckoehler 9999-12-31
15:20 ckoehler so i guess that's not a solution for older or newer dates, either
15:22 Phlogiston can't I send a direct mail to a specific address group? I can't get how to create a receipent list from a address group
15:29 Phlogiston ah now I saw it :)
15:31 Rie1 select '9999-02-20'::timestamp - '0001-03-1'::timestamp; => "3651685 days"
15:35 ckoehler I am sorry Ries, I just have a hard time getting your point..
15:38 ckoehler i guess drupal is using adodb dates and has been for a while
15:40 Rie1 ckoehler: I was just testing it on a other DB... that's all
15:40 Rie1 ckoehler: it's hard/impossible to calculate dates before the year 1000 anyways
15:40 Rie1 so I do understand mysql's limitation
15:41 Rie1 ckoehler: I would suggest implement it for typo3 4.x branches with integers, but I do hope for myself that typo3 5 will have a proper implementation
15:46 Denyerec surely a 64 bit timestamp with the zero date set to, say, 5000BC should do it ?
15:46 Denyerec :)
15:47 ckoehler why only 5000BC?
15:47 Denyerec Meh
15:47 Denyerec first number that came to mind
15:47 Denyerec feel free to pick any date
15:47 ckoehler make it 1 billion kajillion BC :)
15:47 Denyerec tho the whole notion of a "date" is limited to human experience and human record anyway.
15:47 Denyerec So in the context of most modern computer systems anything after the 1800's is usually reasnoble to expect in *most* cases.
15:47 Denyerec (Not all)
15:48 Denyerec (Just most)
15:52 Phlogiston where can I get T3N?
15:53 Denyerec If I knew what that was I could try and hekpo.
15:53 Denyerec *help
15:58 ckoehler Denyerec, btw, there is such a method
15:58 ckoehler the Julian calendar
15:58 ckoehler used for astronomy I believe
15:59 Denyerec Clever chaps those astronomers
15:59 ckoehler that's all I know about it :)
16:04 Rie1 julian date is from 4713... BCE to 27378 CE
17:11 eeos i built a form using the form builder in typo3 for the first time. I would like the user to preview the message and then decide if to send it or not. When sent I would like to visualize a thank you message.
17:11 eeos is that possible?
17:16 Ries eeos: make the CSS style in such a way that it 'looks' like if it0s not a form?!?! :D
17:20 eeos Ries: :P :P
17:22 eeos Ries: do you have any idea? so: they fill the form -> preview (or cancel) -> thank you message
17:22 eeos Ries: possibly the second passage could be missing
17:23 ashworth102680 I am trying to format the standard search per other examples on the Internet and am putting the Typoscript into the TS textarea for the page containing the search box.
17:23 ashworth102680 So far, even with clearing typo cache and browser cache, I see no alterations and am wondering what I may be doing incorrectly. Any ideas?
17:26 ashworth102680 Here is the code I'm using.
17:26 ashworth102680 http://phpfi.com/235872
17:29 ashworth102680 I have also tried implementing this as well to simple reverse the option fields in side the select box ...nothing works. I have tried pasting my code into the TS area of the search page itself, as well as the global TS setup.
17:29 ashworth102680 http://phpfi.com/235873
17:31 ashworth102680 nobody has experience formatting the typo3 search ?
17:31 ashworth102680 appreciative of any help you can provide :(
17:32 Roelof hello, what's the best way to have a link and a guestbook on one page ??
17:32 ashworth102680 it seems as though nobody is inside the chat right now lol
17:34 Roelof not true, we are both in the chat
17:34 ashworth102680 true dat ;)
17:36 Roelof but onfornately i can't help you, i never use the search function
17:37 ashworth102680 ok. thanks. I'm up against a wall here lol
17:37 ashworth102680 the typo books give code, but apparently it isn't working
17:38 Roelof that's not good
17:40 Roelof can't you use css for formatting ??
17:40 uschi dear folks, is there a config option where i can enter the port of my mysql server?
17:41 uschi i currently cannot access my normal server
17:41 eeos uschi: modify the config. file
17:41 Roelof i don't know, you know T3 very much better then me, you help me sometimes
17:42 uschi which one, localconf.php, eeos?
17:42 uschi and what would be the key for this?
17:42 ashworth102680 Roelof: I could, but not to the degree that I need. I need to remove that field. There are Typoescript commands to do what I need, but it seems to not take. I'm wondering if I am putting it in the wrong place in Typo3
17:42 uschi TYPO3_CONF_VARS['???']
17:44 uschi or some typo3_db_xxx?
17:44 uschi or typo3_db_host = 'localhost:4711'
17:44 eeos uschi: yes
17:44 uschi yes what, eeos ??
17:44 eeos uschi: the latter
17:45 uschi ah ok :)
17:45 eeos uschi: sorry, i had to leave for few minutes
17:45 eeos uschi: localhost:portnumber
17:45 eeos the second numbe ris usually the port number
17:45 eeos uschi: so you can redirect the port from there
17:45 eeos uschi: does it make sense?
17:45 uschi thx eeos
17:45 eeos uschi: np
17:45 uschi what do you mean by second number? 4711?
17:45 eeos uschi: tell me if it works
17:46 eeos yep!
17:46 uschi sure i will
17:46 eeos uschi:
17:46 uschi yes eeos ?
17:46 ashworth102680 anybody have experience formatting Typo3 search form ?
17:49 uschi does anyone run typo3 under windows using those pseudo symlinks?
17:49 ashworth102680 glad we're all so eager to help each other ...I'm wondering what this chat is here for. A simple "No" would have sufficed. The formatting isn't exactly straight forward on the Typo3 site.
17:53 Roelof anyone who willing to try top help me with my problem ?
17:55 uschi Roelof, depends on the problem
17:57 eeos andreasbalzer:
17:57 andreasbalzer hi eeos :)
17:57 Roelof i have modern guestbook on my site but i want in the list-view above the guestbook "write in the guestbook"
17:57 Roelof what's the best way to achieve this ?
17:57 eeos andreasbalzer: sorry, wrong nick, did not want to call you from your slumber :D
17:58 uschi Roelof, unfortunately I have no idea
17:58 eeos Roelof: do not know the guestbook
17:59 eeos i built a form using the form builder in typo3 for the first time. I would like the user to preview the message and then decide if to send it or not. When sent I would like to visualize a thank you message.
17:59 eeos any clue?
17:59 bedlamhotel eeos: not a feature of the form content object.
17:59 Roelof oke, i will try to find a solution
17:59 andreasbalzer eeos: well, I just have written an exam today (my last one in school I hope).. that's why i wasn't here for a while ;)
18:00 Roelof but thank you for your help
18:00 uschi how was it andreasbalzer ?
18:00 eeos andreasbalzer: what exam? how did it go?
18:00 eeos bedlamhotel: so is there any solution as far as you know?
18:00 eeos bedlamhotel: it is very basic actually .... :)
18:01 andreasbalzer uschi: i had economy and law today.. I only got 13 points which is a 1- (1+ (15) is best, 6 (0 points) is worst)
18:01 bedlamhotel eeos: I think mailformplus might do that, but I'm not positive.
18:01 uschi andreasbalzer grats then :)))
18:01 andreasbalzer thanks :)
18:02 andreasbalzer if my math exam results are 8 points (mark 3) or above, I won't sign in for any other exam..
18:02 uschi how are your chances?
18:02 eeos andreasbalzer: what are you doing at uni?
18:03 Roelof which study do you follow then, Andreas ??
18:03 andreasbalzer if it's below 8 points I will sign into an oral math exam and maybe into an oral informatics exam too, because I think I only got 14 points there..
18:03 andreasbalzer I think I am worse in maths. I don't think that I have failed but i won't be good in maths..
18:03 uschi you are a streber if you got 14 points 'only'
18:04 eeos bedlamhotel: yes it does it, thanks!
18:04 andreasbalzer uschi: I know every sentence from by teacher by heart. It would be a stupid decission not to sign in.. ;)
18:04 bedlamhotel eeos: NP
18:04 eeos bedlamhotel: i have being running a search, but I am afraid ter search is a bit "weird some times" (it returned webformat but not mailformplus)
18:04 uschi hey bedlamhotel :)))
18:05 bedlamhotel hellol uschi.
18:05 andreasbalzer eeos & roelof: I have to decide between pure informatics ( i think it's called applied siences of technology ?!? (coding at the computer)) or the same but into an economic direction
18:05 Fabian- Does anyone have an idea why the pink flash logo loads in IE/FF/Opera, but not in Safari? http://eene.wizzbit.net/index.php?id=70
18:06 eeos andreasbalzer: what are you thinking of doing?
18:06 eeos Fabian you are right
18:06 andreasbalzer well, on the one hand I'm really good in coding. Regardless of what I have to do, I'm almost able to solve it immediatly.. on the other hand I want to get a lot of money... ;)
18:07 eeos andreasbalzer: blasphemy!!!!
18:07 Roelof i think i have the lowest education here, i never did the uni
18:07 andreasbalzer :D
18:07 eeos andreasbalzer: what do you enjoy the most, i think this is important
18:07 andreasbalzer then there's the possibility to apply for German idol.. ;)
18:08 andreasbalzer well i like to code and i like to sing... but I guess singing is not one of my advantages...
18:08 uschi Roelof, andreasbalzer did not go to university yet
18:08 andreasbalzer (although I joined a choir in school)
18:08 andreasbalzer oh yeah... I'm just a k-12 student
18:08 Roelof oke, then im mistaking
18:09 uschi this was all about school exams from our youngster here ;-)
18:09 eeos :)
18:09 andreasbalzer :)
18:09 Roelof o, en whats a k-2 student, we don't have something here in the Netherlands
18:09 eeos Roelof: I thin last year of secondary school
18:09 uschi a school boy in his 12th year of school
18:09 uschi k = klasse = class
18:10 andreasbalzer well I don't know whether the correct equalation is k-12 but it's like the second school you join (not elementary school)
18:10 eeos in case of pure informatics where would you go?
18:10 andreasbalzer so on some schools you have to stay for 4+8 years, on some you have to stay for 4+9
18:10 Roelof aha, then we have the same , i did the second school and after that a eduction for a proffesion
18:10 andreasbalzer I would try to apply at technical university munich
18:10 eeos is it good
18:11 Roelof elementary school here is 6 years
18:11 andreasbalzer technical university munich (TUM) is the best in Germany
18:11 andreasbalzer (and i'm coming from one of the best k-12 schools in Germany :) )
18:11 uschi says who?
18:11 eeos says who?
18:11 eeos :D
18:11 andreasbalzer national statistics
18:12 Roelof have a nice evening
18:12 eeos and also in which field is Munich best?
18:12 Roelof byeeeee
18:12 eeos Roelof: have a ncie evening
18:12 uschi i do not trust any statistics that i did not fake myself
18:12 andreasbalzer we have the best k-12 exam results of thueringia and are school number 9 in Germany
18:12 eeos uschi: same here
18:12 andreasbalzer ;)
18:13 uschi *LOOOL*
18:13 andreasbalzer and I would open my mouth a little bit more and would say we have the complicatest & coolest TYPO3 driven schoolwebsite in Germany ;)
18:13 eeos andreasbalzer: point us to them things
18:13 uschi that is for sure *g*
18:13 andreasbalzer :)
18:15 eeos andreasbalzer: point us to these wondrous websites
18:16 andreasbalzer oh yeah.. www.ess-erfurt.de
18:16 andreasbalzer it's almost w3c compaticle
18:16 andreasbalzer (compatible..)
18:16 andreasbalzer only openads.org does not want to produce clean code..
18:16 uschi i like the one of the walter gropius schule as well (http://www.walter-gropius-schule.de/)
18:17 eeos andreasbalzer: thanks!
18:17 andreasbalzer yeah. that page is nice too
18:18 eeos I have to go .... andreasbalzer go for what you like the best, not for earning the more money, just my 2c :D
18:18 eeos have a nice evening everybody!
18:18 andreasbalzer cu :)
18:29 Fabian- aargh i cant update itunes because it wants access to old setup files that i apparenty dont have
18:29 Fabian- and i cant uninstall either because it asks for those same files again
18:30 Fabian- so now im stuck with a broken itunes that doesnt start
18:30 andreasbalzer just pull out your harddrive and use a pencil to remove it yourself ;)
18:35 MrPrise hello
18:35 andreasbalzer hi :)
18:36 MrPrise I read in a few review that typo3 needs more resources than other systems so it is not suitable on shared hosting environment
18:37 MrPrise when will be typo3 5 ready? ;-)
18:37 andreasbalzer it depends on your expected hits
18:37 andreasbalzer TYPO3 5.X might be ready sometime next year
18:38 MrPrise where can I read about its feature?
18:38 andreasbalzer typo3.com
18:38 MrPrise thanks ;-)
18:39 MrPrise I have not find info about typo3 5 there
18:39 MrPrise not yet
18:39 uschi there is some in the wiki MrPrise
18:39 MrPrise ok
18:40 Fabian- did you make some progress MrPrise?
18:41 MrPrise well, not really. I dont have time to play typo3 yet
18:41 MrPrise but I read a few docs at work ;-)
18:41 uschi MrPrise, are you from hungary?
18:42 MrPrise yes
18:42 uschi every day a new nationality around here :)
18:42 MrPrise :-)
18:42 MrPrise that is the beaty of the net
18:42 MrPrise among other ;-)
18:42 andreasbalzer the requirements of TYPO3 5.X will be much higher then the ones of version 4
18:43 uschi is this so, andreasbalzer ??
18:43 Boonkerz andreasbalzer, no
18:43 andreasbalzer uschi: you need a php server, java server, a connector and much more
18:43 uschi requirements in terms of what?
18:43 MrPrise hm. its a pity. typo3 has some really unique and neat feature which I would like to use
18:43 Boonkerz andreasbalzer, not the finish
18:43 uschi a php server????
18:43 andreasbalzer apache server + php
18:44 uschi well that is what we need now, right?
18:44 uschi the java stuff???
18:44 Boonkerz java is only for the current version because the jsr170 must be programm in php
18:44 uschi what is this about
18:44 uschi what is jsr170, Boonkerz?
18:45 Boonkerz google for jackrabbit
18:45 Boonkerz content repostory
18:45 uschi a rabbit in t3?
18:45 Boonkerz yes :D
18:45 Boonkerz the white
18:45 Boonkerz :D
18:45 Boonkerz jackrabbit is the java implementation of jsr170
18:46 Boonkerz but curently we have no php implementation
18:46 uschi and i always thought his name was harvey not jack
18:46 Boonkerz of it
18:46 Boonkerz uschi, yes hrhr
18:46 MrPrise I find today someone working on the smf + typo3 integration
18:46 Boonkerz http://jackrabbit.apache.org/
18:46 MrPrise which is very cool
18:47 uschi what is smf, MrPrise ?
18:48 MrPrise it is a forum system
18:48 MrPrise http://www.simplemachines.org
18:48 MrPrise one of the best in the free area imho
18:48 andreasbalzer yeah, but you should use a T3 internal one
18:49 MrPrise I have not checked it
18:49 uschi this is what i am told by my flatmate, though he complains about the template system
18:49 uschi why, andreasbalzer?
18:49 uschi and MrPrise do you know mmforum?
18:49 MrPrise and maybe it will be hard to convert my existing forum to typo3
18:49 uschi this is the one used at typo3.net, not too bad
18:49 andreasbalzer uschi: because it's easier for you to mantain and it's easier for your users because they only have to sign in once
18:49 MrPrise uschi: no, I don't
18:50 uschi you can have single sign on with smf, if i remember right
18:50 uschi you might give it a try
18:50 MrPrise is it already done?
18:51 MrPrise the guy who working on it said he still working on that
18:51 uschi it is not in ter yet, but available at typo3.net
18:51 MrPrise maybe it is too early to me thinkig about integration as I dont know anything about typo3 ;-)
18:52 andreasbalzer MrPrise: As a good start: buy a book at amazon ;)
18:52 MrPrise I saw the book, but it is not so fresh
18:55 MrPrise http://www.simplemachines.org/community/index.php?topic=738.20
18:55 MrPrise here is the post I talkd about
18:57 MrPrise sorry, maybe Im blind but where is the typo3 forum?
18:58 Fabian- its kind of hidden http://support.typo3.org:8080/jive/index.jspa
18:58 MrPrise why?
18:59 Fabian- no idea
18:59 MrPrise ok ;-)
19:00 uschi this was really safely hidden, thx Fabian
19:01 Fabian- well what i meant was its there but when you go to typo3.org there seems to be no way to find it
19:02 MrPrise yes. I thought it is private or something and logged in, but I still dont find it ;-)
19:05 Wendy Good afternoon! I have a quick question --
19:05 Wendy Regarding going live on a site for a client. This is my first Typo3 site, building it has been relatively easy (much easier than custom coding every blessed thing!) ...
19:06 Wendy Client wants as little down time as possible. Can I put the old site in a temporary directory & do a header redirect on index, or what is easiest way? Is it easier to stay up all night & install it then? ;-) Thanks --
19:07 Fabian- do the old and the new site run on the same server?
19:10 Wendy yes, they will -- the test site is on my own server, and I'm ready to put theirs up, but it will take me 1/2 to 1 day to install everything (big site), and they aren't sure when they want it down for that long
19:19 Ries Wendy: install everything under a subdomain for example dev.example.com
19:20 Ries and test it compltelty
19:20 Wendy Hi Ries!
19:20 Ries I sometimes change my hosts file so from my computers perspective I can do www.example.com
19:20 Ries Wendy: if that doesn't work, just use the dev.example.com version... if you use realUrl make sure you change the baseUrl accordingly
19:20 Ries test it all..
19:20 Ries then do a DNS change
19:20 Ries or documentroot change
19:21 Wendy When I move it off of the test server, do I just make the DNS changes in the Install part?
19:22 Wendy sorry, I mean off the subdomain..
19:48 Denyerec Waaa
19:48 Denyerec Never mind the Typo3 forum, where's the damn Commerce manual?!
19:48 Denyerec :(
19:56 Wendy Ries, I talked to the hosting company and figured out what you menat by documentroot change. I never dreamed it would be so easy! Thank you for setting me on the right path!
20:42 Denyerek I've even gone as far as to install commerce
20:45 Denyerek http://www.sk-typo3.de/Shop-aufsetzen-mit-commerce-Quickt.286.0.html
20:45 Denyerek OH for an englihsh version of that page :/
20:58 salamandyr hi folks - quick T3 question. i'm making changes in my template.html, but they aren't showing up in the resulting page, even after clearing cache. do i have to remap everything?
21:01 salamandyr like i'm adding class and id's to different tags... but not showing in the rendered page. any ideas?
21:02 Ries salamandyr: go to TV, open teh template and save it
21:02 Ries you don't have to remap, unless you did map to tags instead of id's
21:02 Ries my adivce, ALWAYS map to id's
21:02 Ries tags with id's that is
21:02 salamandyr i do, tanks :)
21:02 Ries but you always need to tell TV teh template has been changed
21:02 Ries and be smart... don't use id's for styling
21:02 salamandyr do i do that in Template or TemplaVoila ?
21:03 salamandyr k :)
21:03 Ries templavoila
21:03 null0_ hi
21:06 salamandyr Ries: thanks
21:18 a7p_ hi everyone ...
21:19 a7p_ I am looking for an extension which seperates Pages at empty lines ... say every 25 empty lines ... and inserts a < 1 2 3 4 > at the bottom or top ... does anyone know if something like that exists?
21:20 Denyerek Ohhhhhh man it'd be nice if it did.
21:20 Denyerek Sadly you're going to be stuck with a number of compromises.
21:20 Denyerek uschi dear are you there?
21:29 a7p_ Denyerek, was that answer to me?
21:32 Denyerek Yep.
21:40 a7p_ okay, thanks
21:42 dokma hi ppl
21:42 dokma anyone got an idea why my user has empty page tree ? no matter what I add to db mounts the pagetree of be user is empty
21:43 Denyerec Your pages
21:43 Denyerec did you create them as an admin user?
21:44 Denyerec if so, check your permissions
21:44 dokma yes
21:44 dokma ahh
21:44 dokma ok
21:44 Denyerec and assign all the pages to the user's group
21:44 Denyerec Hehe, that one bites me EVERY time dokma :)
21:44 dokma because I copied the site from old server via export
21:44 dokma and there it all worked just fine
21:44 dokma I've put the to the group
21:44 dokma but did not check permissions
21:45 dokma checking permissions
21:46 dokma hmmm
21:46 dokma interesting
21:46 dokma on the permissions page
21:47 dokma in the group column I have gggrg
21:47 dokma but only next to a few of the pages is written the name of the group
21:47 dokma like the rest of them do not belong to the group
21:47 dokma how do I put them in the group ?
21:48 Denyerec Select them and then set a group and a recursion level
21:48 Denyerec should be fairly intuitive from the "Access" page
21:49 Denyerec Click the pencil by the root page
21:49 Denyerec set the options
21:49 dokma ahhh
21:49 Denyerec then set the recursion level from the dropdow
21:49 Denyerec n
21:49 dokma yes
21:49 dokma I've got it !!
21:49 dokma classic unix style stuff
21:50 dokma works!!!
21:50 Denyerec :)
21:50 Denyerec I'll send you the invoice later ;)
21:51 dokma hehe
21:51 dokma one more thing
21:51 dokma now the member of the group sees the page file mounts
21:51 dokma but not the sysfolder file mounts
21:52 dokma think I got it
21:52 Denyerec hm
21:52 dokma let me see
21:52 Denyerec checked ownership ?
21:53 dokma nope
21:53 dokma I will now
21:53 Denyerec if the ownership is correct, then you might just have to set the users group permissions to allow editing that type of record
21:54 dokma ahhh the recursive setting of the group did not catch the sysfolders because they were siblings with the root page
21:54 Denyerec Ah, too far down ?
21:57 dokma no they were siblings in the tree
21:57 dokma not under the root page
21:59 Denyerec ahhh
21:59 Denyerec sorry :)
21:59 Denyerec Do you know anything about the Commerce extension ?
22:39 ovno hey guys, could someone help me with something?
22:42 a7p_ so, gn8

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