| 00:01 |
jameelsandham |
whats game modding? |
| 00:02 |
Wolferey |
ever played halflife and counter-strike? |
| 00:03 |
Wolferey |
HL is the original engine, created by valve. Counter-strike is a mod based upon the HL engine, thus you mod the game, hence game modding |
| 00:05 |
jameelsandham |
i used to play half life |
| 00:05 |
jameelsandham |
when i was alot younger lol |
| 00:05 |
Wolferey |
Being able to mod the game is a selling point to most games now a days, and you have the major engines (valve's source engine, Epic Games Unreal Engine, Crytek engine for crysis/far cry etc.), so the site is dedicated to talk, news, tutorials and such about game modding and development (making your own stuff) |
| 00:06 |
jameelsandham |
i see |
| 00:07 |
Wolferey |
so I got some specific needs for the site, like a wiki for tutorials (so users can create and edit the tutorials we have), news system, forum etc. |
| 00:07 |
jameelsandham |
what are you going to get out of this site? |
| 00:07 |
Wolferey |
satisfaction? :p |
| 00:07 |
jameelsandham |
cool |
| 00:07 |
Wolferey |
always nice to help drive the norwegian game dev community forward ^^ |
| 00:09 |
Wolferey |
its mostly a spare time thing for me, have other people who help me write content for the site too.. I work freelance as an artist at daytime :) |
| 00:09 |
jameelsandham |
want some satisfaction our of helping a 16 year old build his web design career :D? |
| 00:10 |
jameelsandham |
as he has little time and big deadlines to meet, and no idea if he can meet them lol |
| 00:10 |
Wolferey |
then you shouldnt take upon something that big really :p |
| 00:13 |
jameelsandham |
well, i figure if i dont push the boundaries, i will never excel in life |
| 00:13 |
jameelsandham |
and when someone my age is given an oppourtunity do design websites, you take it...... simple as that |
| 00:14 |
Wolferey |
Well, true, but there is still a limit to the boundaries you can push.. You don't go around piloting a jump jet when you hardly know what buttons to push on a small plane :p |
| 00:16 |
jameelsandham |
very true |
| 00:17 |
jameelsandham |
i would more associate this task like ::::: driving a car, when you have only done it on a computer game |
| 00:17 |
jameelsandham |
as in, i understand the concepts, however putting it into practise seems a totally different story |
| 00:17 |
Wolferey |
ya, well, thats equally daunting tasks :p |
| 00:18 |
jameelsandham |
yeh, when someone offers you money for them, at my age, you say ye :) lol |
| 00:18 |
jameelsandham |
Wolferey are you from england? |
| 00:18 |
Wolferey |
no, im from norway |
| 00:19 |
Awillys |
hi there |
| 00:19 |
jameelsandham |
ur english is probably the best ive read from a non english web developer lol |
| 00:19 |
Wolferey |
hia |
| 00:20 |
Awillys |
what's the TSconf to enable the adminpanel for a FE user? |
| 00:20 |
Awillys |
admPanel = 1? |
| 00:20 |
jameelsandham |
no diea sory |
| 00:20 |
jameelsandham |
find an ext that does it for you? |
| 00:20 |
Wolferey |
I just started downloading Typo3, so sorry for not having that answer :o |
| 00:20 |
Awillys |
^^ |
| 00:21 |
Wolferey |
and thanks jameelsandham, its not easy to write or speak english when its not your original language :) |
| 00:32 |
jameelsandham |
you write it dam well consedering its you 2nd language |
| 00:33 |
Wolferey |
:) |
| 00:33 |
jameelsandham |
can i ask you some questions to help me understand css? |
| 00:33 |
Wolferey |
sure |
| 00:36 |
jameelsandham |
well, do you write the css in your html template, or do you use 2 different documents? |
| 00:37 |
jameelsandham |
to be honest, i get the jist of css, but dont really understand it |
| 00:37 |
Wolferey |
I use html strict, so that means I separate the CSS from the HTML document |
| 00:37 |
Wolferey |
www.htmldog.com explains it very well |
| 00:38 |
jameelsandham |
do you use dreamweaver at all? or a wysiwyg programme like that? or do you just write from raw? |
| 00:39 |
Wolferey |
I write it from raw, using context as my prime editor.. its like notepad, but with better features |
| 00:43 |
jameelsandham |
why do you write it from raw? when DW and wysiwyg editors are so much quicker? |
| 00:44 |
Wolferey |
because for me, it ain't quicker, and it leaves out the control I have when doing it raw |
| 00:44 |
jameelsandham |
i guess you are very advanced with the code then |
| 00:45 |
Wolferey |
been doing it since I was like 14 years old, so yeah, I got a few years of experience |
| 00:45 |
jameelsandham |
how old are you now? |
| 00:45 |
Wolferey |
almost 21 |
| 00:47 |
jameelsandham |
is your carreer in web design? or do you do it for 'satisfaction' |
| 00:47 |
Wolferey |
spare time stuff |
| 00:48 |
jameelsandham |
u sound like your quite capeable of making a career out of it ........ why dont you? its good money |
| 00:49 |
Wolferey |
because I have a career already, I wouldn't have time for a second one :p |
| 00:49 |
jameelsandham |
i see, may i ask what you do? |
| 00:49 |
Wolferey |
game development :) |
| 00:50 |
jameelsandham |
aaah |
| 00:50 |
jameelsandham |
ive always been interested in that |
| 00:51 |
jameelsandham |
have you worked on any games i would have heard of? |
| 00:51 |
Wolferey |
no, I haven't done any major titles yet.. would love to, but I need to build up a bigger portfolio before I apply for anything big |
| 00:52 |
jameelsandham |
what exactly do you do? |
| 00:52 |
jameelsandham |
like do you build the games? |
| 00:52 |
jameelsandham |
or just invent the concepts and ideas? |
| 00:53 |
Wolferey |
level design, mostly making the layouts and block out the major areas of a game, and making assets for it, so I work together with someone who just focuses on assets and making the final thing |
| 00:55 |
jameelsandham |
fair enough |
| 00:55 |
jameelsandham |
cool |
| 00:57 |
Denyerec |
[23:48] <jameelsandham> why do you write it from raw? when DW and wysiwyg editors are so much quicker? |
| 00:57 |
Denyerec |
What are you smoking ? |
| 00:57 |
Denyerec |
DW quicker? |
| 00:57 |
Denyerec |
*shudder* |
| 00:57 |
Denyerec |
Nasty peice of work that. |
| 00:58 |
Wolferey |
hehe |
| 00:58 |
jameelsandham |
LOL |
| 00:58 |
jameelsandham |
it really is quicker |
| 00:58 |
Wolferey |
yeah, DW doesn't really leave the code of your dreams :p |
| 00:58 |
void |
Denyerec: what tool do you use? |
| 00:58 |
Denyerec |
COntext |
| 00:58 |
Denyerec |
and Topstyle |
| 00:59 |
jameelsandham |
by the way, when i use TV....... i get "No accessible Storage Folder found - please create one immediately! " error................ where exactly do i create the storage folder, and what ddo i call it and why? |
| 01:00 |
Wolferey |
context is pretty good.. syntax highlighting, line numbering and it works just like a plaintext editor, which leaves it up to you to make the code clean, which again leaves you with full control. Might take some time if you don't know HTML/CSS/PHP etc. by heart, but is definitly quicker when you do, which you should know to begin with |
| 01:01 |
Wolferey |
WYSIWYG editors like DW doesn't really leave you with the clean code you'd desire |
| 01:02 |
jameelsandham |
what exactly do u meen by 'clean' code, because DW applies code checks and things as sutch to make sure the code is compatible |
| 01:04 |
jameelsandham |
... |
| 01:04 |
jameelsandham |
? |
| 01:04 |
Wolferey |
compatible is one thing, clean as in showing that code to another person and he actually understanding it right away because it is set up neatly, doesnt add wasted code, wrong but valid code etc. |
| 01:04 |
Wolferey |
that is clean |
| 01:06 |
jameelsandham |
i see, well yes DW isnt the best for easy to read code, however why would it matter that much? |
| 01:06 |
jameelsandham |
sory for all the questions..... but im still new ish to all of this and the more i learn in general the better :D :) |
| 01:06 |
Wolferey |
like adding <span style="font-size:12px">yourtext</span> for every header in your content when it should be done in a .CSS file.. most WYSIWYG editors ignore this and doesn't comply with HTML strict/XML |
| 01:07 |
Wolferey |
which again results in slower pages, isn't search friendly etc. |
| 01:07 |
jameelsandham |
ooooh |
| 01:08 |
jameelsandham |
i think you underestimate dreamweaver |
| 01:08 |
Wolferey |
thats why plaintext usually means much better control.. when you know what your doing atleast |
| 01:08 |
Wolferey |
and again, for me who is pretty used to it by now, DW doesn't really add anything to my speed |
| 01:10 |
jameelsandham |
fair enough. |
| 01:11 |
jameelsandham |
so for us 'newbies' DW is a good option lol |
| 01:12 |
Wolferey |
well, both yes and no.. I guess I might be a little old fashioned, but I still think newbies should learn it in plaintext from the beginning and up, instead of relying on a WYSIWYG editor |
| 01:13 |
Wolferey |
there is plenty of tutorials for HTML and CSS, so there is no excuse for not learning the language really |
| 01:14 |
Denyerec |
jameelsandham - how do you style a header in DW? |
| 01:14 |
Denyerec |
What is the process? |
| 01:14 |
Denyerec |
Say you wanna make a header1 red, with a background image and some padding |
| 01:16 |
jameelsandham |
well i couldnt tell you off the top of my head |
| 01:16 |
jameelsandham |
...... how would you write it in raw code? |
| 01:21 |
Wolferey |
in the html doc: <h1>HEADER</h1> in the css doc: h1 { color: #yourredcolor; padding: 2px/em/other unit; background-image: url(image.filetype) no-repeat top right; } as an example.. the CSS can be changed to whatever you'd like really, its very powerful |
| 01:23 |
Wolferey |
all the normal html tags have can be modified with a certain style and properties in the css document, and you can have classes deratives of the same tags etc. |
| 01:25 |
jameelsandham |
so, with css and html, you can write the html as the 'data'? (or whatever u wana call it)....... and then write a style sheet to set the datas appearence? |
| 01:26 |
Wolferey |
yeah, separating the style from the html, this less clutter in the html document |
| 01:27 |
jameelsandham |
how do u make sure the style relates directly to the HTML doc if they are seperated into 2 different files? |
| 01:28 |
Wolferey |
<link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" href="stylesheet.css" /> in the html doc |
| 01:28 |
Wolferey |
you can either link to many stylesheets, or let that one stylesheet import all the stylesheets you have |
| 01:29 |
Wolferey |
and that tag needs to be inside your <head></head> |
| 01:32 |
jameelsandham |
does the filepath of the stylesheet go after href=" |
| 01:32 |
Wolferey |
yeah |
| 01:34 |
jameelsandham |
if i copy and paste what you have just written into my <head>..... then make a basic stylesheet and call it stylesheet.css and put them both in the same direcotry, would that work? |
| 01:34 |
Wolferey |
yeah |
| 01:34 |
jameelsandham |
thanks |
| 01:35 |
Wolferey |
use htmldog.com as your bible :p |
| 01:36 |
jameelsandham |
is it important to define : type="text/css" |
| 01:36 |
jameelsandham |
what are the variables on the type= |
| 01:37 |
Wolferey |
http://www.w3schools.com/tags/tag_link.asp <-- browse down to the type property |
| 01:48 |
jameelsandham |
thanks |
| 01:51 |
jameelsandham |
is css best for defining bg image, bg color etc? |
| 01:51 |
Wolferey |
I think so, yeah.. if your going for valid html strict, then you have no choice |
| 01:53 |
jameelsandham |
is htmldog a good enough site to provide me with the right css script for making a site? |
| 01:53 |
jameelsandham |
and defining the styles |
| 01:53 |
Wolferey |
htmldog is pretty much the closest thing to a html/css bible :p |
| 01:54 |
Wolferey |
it explains everything from basic to advanced that you should know for it |
| 01:59 |
jameelsandham |
ok cool |
| 02:03 |
jameelsandham |
i wish typo3 was simple lol |
| 02:05 |
Wolferey |
going to bed, so guess i'll be back if I have any other questions about Typo3.. take care! |
| 02:07 |
maGe |
is it possible, to have a main template, and on a sub page have another template which fills the page content? |
| 02:07 |
uschi |
hello folks :-) |
| 02:08 |
uschi |
anyone able to tell me how i can find out whether a link in a menu is external, internal, mail or whatsoever? |
| 02:09 |
uschi |
hm, of course, doktype! |
| 02:09 |
uschi |
somehow |
| 02:11 |
jameelsandham |
what is the best way to write a menu in a template, if you are then going to use templavoila to map it? |
| 02:12 |
uschi |
tsobjectpath, jameelsandham |
| 02:12 |
uschi |
as etype |
| 02:12 |
jameelsandham |
huh? |
| 02:13 |
uschi |
your write a dummymenu and then map it outer and the etype is typoscript object path |
| 02:13 |
uschi |
you do not understand what i mean, i fear? |
| 02:13 |
jameelsandham |
sory i dont understand it |
| 02:14 |
maGe |
hm how can i add 2 plugins to a subpart in my page |
| 02:14 |
maGe |
cant be hard |
| 02:14 |
uschi |
ok, you have some <ul id="mainmenu"> in your html template jameelsandham |
| 02:15 |
uschi |
now, when you are creating you DS (where you give the field name) |
| 02:15 |
jameelsandham |
DS? |
| 02:15 |
uschi |
Data Structure |
| 02:15 |
jameelsandham |
ok |
| 02:15 |
uschi |
sorry, i do understand you, i am using those abbreviations all the time |
| 02:16 |
uschi |
but it just comes up to me what a nightmare it was at the beginning ;-) |
| 02:16 |
jameelsandham |
lol |
| 02:16 |
uschi |
when you create your data structure (DS) |
| 02:16 |
jameelsandham |
yes typo3 is a nigthmare :( |
| 02:16 |
uschi |
you give your field a name, e.g. field_mainmenu |
| 02:17 |
uschi |
you know where you are doing that? |
| 02:17 |
jameelsandham |
:S no, i think this is too advanced for me, |
| 02:17 |
jameelsandham |
never mind :( |
| 02:17 |
uschi |
but this is what you do with each and every field |
| 02:17 |
uschi |
it is easy, believe me |
| 02:18 |
uschi |
you have created your html-file, right? |
| 02:18 |
uschi |
let us do it step by step |
| 02:18 |
jameelsandham |
yes.... its very basic, and i created it on dreamweaver |
| 02:18 |
uschi |
ok |
| 02:19 |
uschi |
you have told templavoila where it has to store its templates, some sysfolder, right |
| 02:19 |
uschi |
choose that folder in the pagetree |
| 02:20 |
uschi |
in the left frame, you choose templavoila |
| 02:20 |
uschi |
at the top of the frame, you see a tab template files, right? |
| 02:20 |
jameelsandham |
hmm in the TV tutorial it sais nothing about a sys folder |
| 02:21 |
jameelsandham |
but yeah i get the teplate files from fileadmin/templates |
| 02:21 |
uschi |
sure, you have to tell tv where to store it's data |
| 02:21 |
jameelsandham |
how do i tell TV where to store its data? |
| 02:22 |
uschi |
you have a general record storage page defined at your rootpage? |
| 02:22 |
maGe |
how can i add 2 or more plugins to a subpart??? |
| 02:22 |
jameelsandham |
is TV the best way for templating in typo3? |
| 02:22 |
uschi |
it is a very nice way, my opinion |
| 02:22 |
uschi |
highly flexible |
| 02:23 |
jameelsandham |
i need to get the hang of it :( |
| 02:23 |
jameelsandham |
maybe my template is wrong |
| 02:23 |
jameelsandham |
or my config is wrong |
| 02:23 |
jameelsandham |
i duno |
| 02:24 |
uschi |
wait, i look it up in futuristic template building, it is in there |
| 02:24 |
jameelsandham |
where do i create the general record storage page? |
| 02:25 |
uschi |
mine is directly under the home page |
| 02:25 |
jameelsandham |
i will create one quickly |
| 02:25 |
uschi |
create a new page, choose page type sysfolder |
| 02:26 |
uschi |
call that folder storage folder |
| 02:26 |
uschi |
then open the page properties of your home page |
| 02:27 |
uschi |
There you find a field 'General Record Storage Page' |
| 02:29 |
jameelsandham |
kk |
| 02:30 |
uschi |
choose your newly created sysfolder |
| 02:30 |
jameelsandham |
yes |
| 02:31 |
jameelsandham |
called 'storage folder'? |
| 02:31 |
uschi |
this is a commonly used name for it |
| 02:31 |
uschi |
you can name it whatever you like :-) |
| 02:33 |
uschi |
now, in your fileadmin, create a folder templates, if it does not exist already |
| 02:34 |
uschi |
move your html file into that folder |
| 02:34 |
jameelsandham |
i have already got a folder names 'templates' |
| 02:34 |
jameelsandham |
and i have done that too |
| 02:34 |
uschi |
great |
| 02:34 |
uschi |
good |
| 02:34 |
uschi |
now choose your storage folder in the page tree |
| 02:35 |
jameelsandham |
kk |
| 02:35 |
uschi |
and then web->templavoila in the left frame |
| 02:35 |
Denyerec |
Here is where he tells you he is using Autooparser ;) |
| 02:35 |
uschi |
who? |
| 02:36 |
uschi |
jameelsandham ? |
| 02:37 |
uschi |
good evening, my little dancing monkey Denyerec, btw |
| 02:38 |
uschi |
jameelsandham, are you still there? |
| 02:39 |
uschi |
obviously got drowned by tv :-) |
| 02:39 |
jameelsandham |
lol |
| 02:39 |
jameelsandham |
sory, back now |
| 02:39 |
jameelsandham |
ok clicked on tv in web module on storage folder |
| 02:39 |
uschi |
great |
| 02:39 |
jameelsandham |
now start wizard i guess? |
| 02:40 |
uschi |
perhaps, might be, because you do not have any template yet |
| 02:40 |
uschi |
but this might be the wrong way |
| 02:40 |
jameelsandham |
huh |
| 02:41 |
uschi |
let us do it the other way round |
| 02:41 |
uschi |
go to your fileadmin |
| 02:41 |
uschi |
click on the icon of your template file |
| 02:41 |
jameelsandham |
kk |
| 02:41 |
uschi |
there you have a tv option too :-) |
| 02:42 |
jameelsandham |
yeh kk clicked |
| 02:42 |
uschi |
where are you form, jameelsandham |
| 02:42 |
jameelsandham |
england |
| 02:42 |
uschi |
ah, a night person |
| 02:43 |
uschi |
what do you see now? |
| 02:43 |
jameelsandham |
at this rate i will be an all day and night person to meet my deadline ! :*( |
| 02:43 |
uschi |
i cannot reproduce it, because my installation works differently |
| 02:43 |
uschi |
you are not doing your first typo3 site as a job, do you? |
| 02:44 |
jameelsandham |
ummm well i kind of am :( |
| 02:44 |
uschi |
when is your deadline? |
| 02:44 |
jameelsandham |
i realise now, it wasnt wise |
| 02:44 |
jameelsandham |
umm january |
| 02:45 |
jameelsandham |
i have like 2 months max |
| 02:45 |
uschi |
the end of? |
| 02:45 |
jameelsandham |
end of january latest yes |
| 02:45 |
uschi |
features required are? |
| 02:47 |
uschi |
this sounds like a nightmare to me |
| 02:47 |
jameelsandham |
nothing special.............. left pagetree navigation......... and basic template structure.... (client is providing content)..... all i have to do is make content look more srtuctured. this is why im using typo3, so every page can have same template etc |
| 02:48 |
uschi |
ok, if there are no frontend users and a lot of stuff involved, it might work out |
| 02:48 |
uschi |
now tell me what do you see |
| 02:48 |
jameelsandham |
''CO root'' |
| 02:48 |
uschi |
great, there we are |
| 02:48 |
uschi |
this the root element for your xml |
| 02:49 |
uschi |
now, map that one to your body element |
| 02:49 |
uschi |
mode inner |
| 02:49 |
jameelsandham |
body element as in my content section? or the whole body element as in where the tag <body> opens? |
| 02:49 |
Denyerec |
jameelsandham - I did a typo3 job on a contract job as my 1st build |
| 02:49 |
Denyerec |
nothing like that to make you learn :) |
| 02:50 |
jameelsandham |
yeh i can immagine |
| 02:50 |
uschi |
where the body opens |
| 02:50 |
jameelsandham |
im learning things so fast |
| 02:50 |
jameelsandham |
its so stressfull though |
| 02:50 |
jameelsandham |
i need the money, couldnt turn it down...... and its a good starting point for my portfolio |
| 02:50 |
uschi |
go on mapping, i have to go to sleep |
| 02:51 |
jameelsandham |
ok, good night |
| 02:51 |
jameelsandham |
thanks so much for the help |
| 02:51 |
uschi |
no, the question with the menu is not solved yet, or is it |
| 02:51 |
jameelsandham |
no yet, but im sure i can figure it out |
| 02:51 |
Denyerec |
where you from jameelsandham ? |
| 02:51 |
jameelsandham |
are you on this chat alot? |
| 02:52 |
jameelsandham |
we can pick this up another time if you want to go to sleep |
| 02:52 |
uschi |
yes it is mine and Denyerec's virtual living room |
| 02:52 |
uschi |
i will not have much time the next two weeks |
| 02:52 |
Denyerec |
:) |
| 02:52 |
uschi |
there are those bloody deadlines, you know ;-) |
| 02:52 |
Denyerec |
I'll be around. |
| 02:52 |
Denyerec |
jam, where you from ? |
| 02:52 |
Denyerec |
UK / US / Euro ? |
| 02:52 |
jameelsandham |
Denyerec im from england UK |
| 02:52 |
Denyerec |
Somewhere more interesting than that even? |
| 02:53 |
jameelsandham |
you?> |
| 02:53 |
Denyerec |
Whoot |
| 02:53 |
Denyerec |
UK |
| 02:53 |
Denyerec |
Whereabouts? |
| 02:53 |
jameelsandham |
Devon |
| 02:53 |
jameelsandham |
u? |
| 02:53 |
Denyerec |
Oooh, miles away |
| 02:53 |
Denyerec |
near Leicester |
| 02:53 |
jameelsandham |
typo3 is still very small in UK isnt it |
| 02:53 |
jameelsandham |
i say the word typo3 to most people and they reply with ' HUH' |
| 02:54 |
uschi |
learning curve is steep |
| 02:55 |
jameelsandham |
it will have to be in my case |
| 02:55 |
jameelsandham |
i cant afford to let my client down |
| 02:55 |
jameelsandham |
uschi where are you from? |
| 02:55 |
uschi |
germany, in the middle, in erfurt, close to weimar |
| 02:56 |
jameelsandham |
cool one of my boss' live in germany |
| 02:57 |
jameelsandham |
ok, whats the easiest way to make a left navigation column,,,....... to show the page tree in the FE,,.... so users can move around the site easily? |
| 02:59 |
jameelsandham |
denyerec are you there? |
| 02:59 |
jameelsandham |
hmmm :S |
| 02:59 |
jameelsandham |
anyone herer? |
| 02:59 |
jameelsandham |
here* |
| 03:01 |
jameelsandham |
well if no ones here, im going to bed |
| 03:01 |
jameelsandham |
good night all |
| 04:15 |
salamandyr |
how can i add a javascript function declaration to a page? |
| 04:17 |
salamandyr |
i.e. in the "<head>" of one page? |
| 04:43 |
salamandyr |
and anyone know the relative page path for coding urls in html content items? |
| 06:16 |
maGe |
how can i find out which pid im on |
| 06:17 |
maGe |
when doin an condition |
| 06:17 |
maGe |
like [pidinrootline = 3] |
| 06:17 |
maGe |
i want to execute the condition only when im on page 3 |
| 06:26 |
maGe |
got it |
| 06:27 |
maGe |
[globalVar = TSFE:id = 3] |
| 06:50 |
mayeco |
hello |
| 06:50 |
mayeco |
if I setup my template to use the page.config.baseURL = http://www.XXXX.com/yyy/zzz/ |
| 06:51 |
mayeco |
then the images that I generate via GIB builder dont show |
| 06:51 |
mayeco |
the path to the images is typo3temp/etc... |
| 06:52 |
mayeco |
dont work that way |
| 06:52 |
mayeco |
should be /typo3temp/etc... |
| 06:52 |
mayeco |
I'm doing something wrong? |
| 06:55 |
mayeco |
somedoby help me how to fix this please...! |
| 06:56 |
mayeco |
I'm using TYPO3 4.1.3 |
| 06:56 |
mayeco |
the last stable |
| 11:07 |
phlogi |
hello guys :) Anyone could just post me the code for a menu wrap that puts a | between each menu entry, thanks |
| 11:35 |
uschi_ |
morning phlogi |
| 11:38 |
phlogi |
hello uschi :) |
| 11:39 |
phlogi |
I found the solution in the meantime btw :) |
| 11:39 |
solshark |
Hello all. I need extension for project menegment. I need to be able add resources, manage timelines, deadlines etc. Somethong like msproject, but for typo. Any idea? |
| 11:40 |
solshark |
*Something |
| 12:21 |
Jessica |
Goodmorning :D |
| 12:21 |
Jessica |
Oke I have a weird problem |
| 12:21 |
uschi |
morning Jessica :) |
| 12:21 |
Jessica |
I can't see the pictures I've selected |
| 12:22 |
Jessica |
Goodmorning uschi |
| 12:22 |
Jessica |
uschi I think you can help me |
| 12:22 |
uschi |
selected where? |
| 12:22 |
uschi |
what? |
| 12:22 |
Jessica |
I've made a template with templavoila. There I've selected a picture as IMG type |
| 12:22 |
Jessica |
then in the page TV I've selected a image |
| 12:22 |
Jessica |
but it won't display |
| 12:23 |
Jessica |
very frustrating |
| 12:23 |
Jessica |
hehe first coffee :) Well it is saturday morning! |
| 12:23 |
uschi |
hm, is there a type IMG? |
| 12:23 |
uschi |
yes, and i went to bed round about 4 in the morning |
| 12:24 |
Jessica |
Wow that;s late, did you went to a party? |
| 12:24 |
uschi |
no, i was fiddling around with some template issues |
| 12:25 |
uschi |
mom, Jessica, brb |
| 12:26 |
Jessica |
Hmmm far too late for template issues at that hour |
| 12:27 |
uschi |
i was more awake then than now |
| 12:28 |
uschi |
Jessica, you mean there is an etype image in tv? |
| 12:28 |
Jessica |
Well when you map a template |
| 12:28 |
uschi |
ok |
| 12:28 |
uschi |
you are using dam? |
| 12:29 |
Jessica |
DAM?? no templavoila |
| 12:29 |
Jessica |
en when you map the template you can chose Editing Type: |
| 12:29 |
Jessica |
and I chose image |
| 12:30 |
uschi |
that is not exclusive. dam is for digital asset management, and has nothing to do with tv |
| 12:30 |
uschi |
but if you are using dam that affects the way images are treated, that's why i asked |
| 12:31 |
Jessica |
Ow I solved it already |
| 12:31 |
uschi |
so what was the problem |
| 12:31 |
Jessica |
I've now chose Content element |
| 12:31 |
Jessica |
but oke |
| 12:31 |
uschi |
aaah |
| 12:32 |
Jessica |
I think Image field was not the right content type |
| 12:32 |
Jessica |
but it's oke |
| 12:32 |
Jessica |
but is DAM a good extension? |
| 12:32 |
uschi |
it would be, if it was finished |
| 12:32 |
Jessica |
Isn't it finished? |
| 12:33 |
uschi |
lot of bugs, and development has been lying down for a long time |
| 12:59 |
Denyerec |
Morning all. |
| 12:59 |
Awillys |
void: around? |
| 12:59 |
void |
Awillys: yes |
| 12:59 |
void |
morning Denyerec |
| 12:59 |
Denyerec |
Awillys, king lurker |
| 12:59 |
Denyerec |
void - you use mIRC? |
| 13:00 |
Awillys |
with typo3 vb authentication, anything applied to the FE User directly in typo3 be is ignored? like simulateBE etc... ? |
| 13:00 |
Awillys |
^^ |
| 13:01 |
Denyerec |
Finished it just2b ? |
| 13:01 |
Denyerec |
I'm told it's appallingly short. |
| 13:01 |
void |
Denyerec: no, i use kvIRC |
| 13:02 |
Awillys |
void: any clue? |
| 13:04 |
void |
Awillys: hm.. see no reason why it should be ignored. but you should not change/delete fe_user records by hand |
| 13:04 |
just2b |
Denyerec no |
| 13:04 |
void |
just2b: what is the crysis? |
| 13:05 |
Awillys |
void: okay |
| 13:06 |
Awillys |
i'll keep trying ^^ |
| 13:14 |
just2b |
void a game |
| 13:53 |
jameelsandham |
well hello everyone |
| 14:01 |
jameelsandham |
ok question about TV,.,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, is it theb est way to impliment a template into typo3 ? or are thereb etter ways? |
| 14:01 |
uschi |
hello jameelsandham :-) |
| 14:01 |
jameelsandham |
uschi we meet again :) |
| 14:02 |
uschi |
as i told you, this is my virtual home |
| 14:02 |
uschi |
jameelsandham, it depends on your needs |
| 14:02 |
jameelsandham |
i think, it is soon to become mine too |
| 14:03 |
uschi |
the fortunate thing with tv is that you can have flexible content elements (FCEs) |
| 14:03 |
Denyerec |
hey jam |
| 14:03 |
Denyerec |
correction uschi - *our* virtual home :) |
| 14:04 |
uschi |
This is usefull if you need e.g. a 2col layout inside your content |
| 14:04 |
uschi |
yes my dear, OUR virtual home, and that of ries too |
| 14:04 |
Denyerec |
Aye |
| 14:04 |
jameelsandham |
who is rei? |
| 14:04 |
Denyerec |
BTW johnd0e could be bedlam in disguise :) |
| 14:04 |
Denyerec |
Nice guy |
| 14:05 |
uschi |
thx ries :-))) |
| 14:05 |
Denyerec |
get me a brew whilst you're in the #typo3 kitchen eh Ries? :) |
| 14:05 |
ries |
yw.... :) |
| 14:05 |
jameelsandham |
may aswell bring the guest one too ;) |
| 14:05 |
ries |
Denyerec: I think we have something in the #typo3 fridge... |
| 14:06 |
Denyerec |
:D |
| 14:06 |
uschi |
dear friends, i do have a question |
| 14:06 |
Awillys |
anyone familiar with fe editing? |
| 14:07 |
jameelsandham |
what do u want to know about fe editing? |
| 14:07 |
uschi |
ries, Denyerec: is it possible in a HMENU/TMENU to find out about the doktype of the current item and then set a special class for it? |
| 14:07 |
Awillys |
when I create a tt_news article on the FE it ads the record on the page and not on the sys folder i created for news |
| 14:08 |
Awillys |
how do i set this up so that the articles goes into the sys folder? |
| 14:08 |
uschi |
interesting problem, Awillys, but if this is so, I would be interested in the solution |
| 14:08 |
ries |
uschi: not that I know of |
| 14:08 |
ries |
at least not without PHP |
| 14:08 |
uschi |
shhhh, ries |
| 14:09 |
uschi |
would be a very nice feature for 4.2 |
| 14:09 |
Denyerec |
uschi - I THINK so |
| 14:09 |
Denyerec |
at least |
| 14:09 |
pmk65 |
uschi: you can use the CASE object insede the TMENU, and use the doktype field as key |
| 14:09 |
Denyerec |
I wrote some TS to overload the destination of shortcut types |
| 14:09 |
Denyerec |
let me fish it out |
| 14:09 |
uschi |
how and where pmk65 |
| 14:09 |
uschi |
thx |
| 14:10 |
Denyerec |
http://phpfi.com/276840 |
| 14:12 |
uschi |
ok, thx Denyerec |
| 14:12 |
Denyerec |
you should be able to swap in a CASE for the IF |
| 14:12 |
uschi |
thought of it right now |
| 14:13 |
uschi |
but ..., well i have to think over it |
| 14:14 |
jameelsandham |
very important question guys......... how long would it take to build a site like this! ::: http://www.florinniculescu.eu/ ......... without all of the flash nonsense..... so just images instead of flash... |
| 14:14 |
jameelsandham |
and estimates or ideas would be very helpfull |
| 14:14 |
jameelsandham |
any** |
| 14:17 |
uschi |
ask Denyerec, i cannot judge, because i did not fiddle around with newsletters and even with news i did not do a lot |
| 14:17 |
jameelsandham |
denyerec darling.......... |
| 14:17 |
Denyerec |
Given that DirectMail is shitting in my face right now |
| 14:17 |
Denyerec |
I'd be tempted to say FOREVER |
| 14:17 |
ries |
jameelsandham: it doesn't look that hard... |
| 14:18 |
jameelsandham |
hmmm so, one 'forever' |
| 14:18 |
Denyerec |
Without the newsletter, a day or so. |
| 14:18 |
jameelsandham |
and one not that hard |
| 14:18 |
Denyerec |
With the newsletter - forever |
| 14:18 |
Denyerec |
You will never fishin |
| 14:18 |
Denyerec |
and it will bankrupt your business |
| 14:18 |
jameelsandham |
without newsletter? |
| 14:18 |
Denyerec |
and cost you ~ £3000 in development time |
| 14:18 |
pmk65 |
uschi: try this (untested) http://phpfi.com/276844 |
| 14:18 |
Denyerec |
Without the newsletter, a day. |
| 14:18 |
ries |
Denyerec: hahaha... you are a bit mellow today dude... |
| 14:18 |
Denyerec |
ries - DirectMail has bankrupted me |
| 14:19 |
ries |
Denyerec: I know... I know.... if I know/knew what it was... I would helped you right away |
| 14:19 |
ries |
But I never seen anything that weird |
| 14:19 |
uschi |
thx, pmk65 |
| 14:20 |
ries |
Denyerec: there are some excellent online tools for marketing... I know some typo3 guru's that advice using that over directmail |
| 14:21 |
Denyerec |
ries - yes very true, though sadly not what Mr Client wants |
| 14:21 |
ries |
pmk65 == Peter Klein? |
| 14:21 |
jameelsandham |
how can a newsletter bankrupt someone??? |
| 14:22 |
jameelsandham |
so does anyone have a real idea of how long the site would take??? no flash, just images....i really need an estimate of time if possible :D? |
| 14:22 |
pmk65 |
ries: yes :) |
| 14:22 |
ries |
jameelsandham: it's hard to glance at a site and estimate how long it would take... |
| 14:23 |
Denyerec |
jameelsandham - you spend so long trying to get it to work |
| 14:23 |
Denyerec |
that you have spent all your time, money and energy on it, when the client is only paying a little. |
| 14:23 |
ries |
pmk65: I always wondered why your brain could understand typoscript so well.... IMHO you ARE the typo3 guru in the community... and I feel small compared to you :) |
| 14:23 |
ries |
and typo3script guru.... |
| 14:24 |
just2b |
yeah good (old) peter ;) |
| 14:24 |
pmk65 |
ries: I spend a LONG time reading the Ts manuals, and it took quite a while until I really got to understand it. |
| 14:24 |
Denyerec |
hehe |
| 14:24 |
jameelsandham |
there isnt much to work is there?... the only dynamic content is the left menu navigation......... the rest will just be content on each page :S......... |
| 14:24 |
Denyerec |
But are you any good with Directmail? :D |
| 14:24 |
just2b |
peter, will release 2 more mootools exts on mondey ;) |
| 14:24 |
Denyerec |
jameelsandham - if you have until January, you have loads of time. |
| 14:24 |
jameelsandham |
:) |
| 14:25 |
Denyerec |
if you google for "Typo3 wizard" |
| 14:25 |
Denyerec |
you will find a LOT of snippets that will help you learn TS |
| 14:25 |
jameelsandham |
me? |
| 14:25 |
ries |
pmk65: TS is kinda hard... I am loosing it already since I don't do to much typo3 anymore... |
| 14:25 |
just2b |
ries, but it makes much fun if you reached a special point |
| 14:26 |
pmk65 |
just2b: Im updating the t3mootools ext right now, with a new API function for use from typoscript + a couple fixes. It should be ready sometime later today. |
| 14:26 |
ries |
jameelsandham: if the site is ONLY normal content and automated news then a good typo3 person can do it in 2-3 days from start to finnish |
| 14:27 |
jameelsandham |
so if i have been given untill january i should be able to slowly figure it out |
| 14:27 |
pmk65 |
and if you use tcdirectmail, you should be able to get newsletter up and running in a day too. |
| 14:27 |
just2b |
pmk65 this is cool ;) but i guess you will switch to new mootools when this is stable? |
| 14:27 |
jameelsandham |
would that left navigation be hard to build? |
| 14:28 |
ries |
just2b: I think I reached that special point already, but nowdays doing other sort of things as a freelancer... we use typo3.. but I do programming around it (flex, java, PostgreSQL etc...) |
| 14:28 |
ries |
jameelsandham: Not really... looks like gifbuilder objects, can be automated |
| 14:29 |
jameelsandham |
hmmm where would i start investigating how to do that? |
| 14:30 |
pmk65 |
jameelsandham: Try looking at this doc: http://typo3.org/documentation/document-library/core-documentation/doc_core_tsbyex/0.0.16/view/ |
| 14:30 |
just2b |
ries i am sure you reached it ;) lol |
| 14:30 |
pmk65 |
It explains Gifbuilder in menus pretty godd, with lots of examples. |
| 14:30 |
ries |
jameelsandham: and keep this on your bookmarks: http://typo3.org/documentation/document-library/references/doc_core_tsref/current/view/ |
| 14:31 |
just2b |
ries > www.tsref.de is a bit shorter ;) |
| 14:31 |
ries |
just2b: not sure who maintains that.... |
| 14:32 |
just2b |
ries, it is just an iframe to official tsref |
| 14:32 |
ries |
I like the long link better :) |
| 14:34 |
uschi |
just2b, why do you net simply a keyword in your bookmarks |
| 14:34 |
uschi |
i simply type tsref, and then i am there |
| 14:35 |
uschi |
or stdWrap for that instance |
| 14:36 |
just2b |
uschi, typing "L" and enter is fine too ;) |
| 14:36 |
uschi |
??? |
| 14:36 |
just2b |
browser makes the rest |
| 14:42 |
MikeK2 |
hello |
| 14:42 |
jameelsandham |
in TV is the feildname some form of code? or can you name it as anything? |
| 14:42 |
uschi |
you can name it whatever you want |
| 14:42 |
MikeK2 |
How do I sort menu items in FE? The deafult order is by creation date I assume? |
| 14:43 |
uschi |
but it is a good naming concept to call them field_something |
| 14:43 |
uschi |
no, MikeK2 |
| 14:44 |
uschi |
it is the sortingfield |
| 14:44 |
uschi |
in the page tree |
| 14:44 |
jameelsandham |
hmm ok thanks, am i on the right track for mapping a left navigation menu on my template? or am i on the wrong side of the mountain? |
| 14:45 |
MikeK2 |
Uschi sortfield in pagetree, ok I look there! |
| 14:45 |
ries |
jameelsandham: stay in latin1, don't use spaces (if I understand you correctly) |
| 14:45 |
MikeK2 |
ty |
| 14:46 |
uschi |
i suppose, in your html template you have an element like <ul id="leftmenu"> |
| 14:46 |
uschi |
create a new field field_leftmenu |
| 14:46 |
uschi |
as Element type choose Element |
| 14:47 |
uschi |
as Editing type choose TypoScript Object Path |
| 14:47 |
uschi |
update the field |
| 14:47 |
uschi |
you will now have to fill in the name of your typoscript |
| 14:47 |
uschi |
e.g. lib.leftmenu |
| 14:48 |
MikeK2 |
yep |
| 14:48 |
MikeK2 |
i already have kind of lib.left me, because i have menu, just not sure how to sort ti |
| 14:48 |
uschi |
Then map your <ul id="leftmenu"> to that field |
| 14:48 |
uschi |
Mode should be set to outer |
| 14:53 |
uschi |
hey Boonkerz :-)) |
| 14:53 |
Boonkerz |
hi |
| 15:06 |
jameelsandham |
hi |
| 15:10 |
jameelsandham |
is typo3 the most usefull open source cms there isd? |
| 15:10 |
jameelsandham |
is- |
| 15:15 |
just2b |
depends on your needs i guess |
| 15:23 |
ries |
jameelsandham: it's for sure the one with the most posibilities |
| 15:23 |
ries |
jameelsandham: at least at has much more CMS features then most other so called CMS systems |
| 15:32 |
jameelsandham |
i see |
| 15:33 |
Denyerec |
Just never try newsletters |
| 15:33 |
Denyerec |
:) |
| 15:34 |
jameelsandham |
Denyrec HATES newsletters |
| 15:34 |
jameelsandham |
why may i ask? |
| 15:34 |
Denyerec |
Because they've cunted me about for 2 weeks |
| 15:34 |
Denyerec |
Stupid vanishing news records in the stupid HTML view |
| 15:34 |
Denyerec |
And I cannot find out why. |
| 15:34 |
jameelsandham |
lol |
| 15:34 |
Denyerec |
Later, or tomorrow, I will be deleting every last trace of it |
| 15:35 |
Denyerec |
and starting from scratch |
| 15:35 |
jameelsandham |
better fork out 1.5k and ask kasper himself |
| 15:35 |
Denyerec |
dokma tried to get me set up with a PHP debugger, but I think that will take longer than just starting again |
| 15:35 |
Denyerec |
plus when dbg is running on my server the poor thing slows to a crawl |
| 15:35 |
jameelsandham |
starting again is allways good,,,,,,, i seem to do it alot |
| 15:35 |
jameelsandham |
sometimes its just the right thing to do |
| 15:35 |
Denyerec |
it's the cowards way out |
| 15:35 |
Denyerec |
but hey |
| 15:35 |
Denyerec |
sometimes it's the right thing to do :) |
| 15:36 |
jameelsandham |
no the cowards way out is paying someone £1500 to do it for them! |
| 15:36 |
Denyerec |
hehehe |
| 15:36 |
Denyerec |
I'd be happy with that right now TBH |
| 15:36 |
Denyerec |
business is business |
| 15:37 |
Denyerec |
anyhow, bbl |
| 15:37 |
Denyerec |
jameelsandham - stick around in here, you'll soon master Typo3 |
| 15:37 |
Denyerec |
also, are you registered with nickserv? |
| 15:38 |
Denyerec |
If not, sort that out so you can receive PM's from people |
| 15:38 |
Denyerec |
I will want a word with you in about an hour ;) |
| 15:45 |
jameelsandham |
were do i register with nickserv? |
| 15:46 |
jameelsandham |
i think i can private Messagen anyway |
| 15:46 |
jameelsandham |
however im off for a bit,,,, if yhou want me. just shout |
| 15:48 |
uschi |
Deny, and when you are starting this newsletter thing again, can you please document it carefully step by step, so that i will not run into the same trap? |
| 16:38 |
kv0s |
Hi! |
| 16:38 |
kv0s |
I'm searching for a extension which helps to write e-mails to fe-user-groups ... any ideas? |
| 16:39 |
kv0s |
... for example: mail to all members of fegroup children ... or mail to all members of fegroup trainees ... |
| 16:42 |
flo |
hi guys |
| 16:47 |
flo |
indexed search drives me crazy in a new system, everything configured, pages are indexed but it does not find anything |
| 16:49 |
Denyerec |
uschi - ok |
| 16:49 |
uschi |
thx :-) |
| 16:55 |
Tofte |
hello |
| 16:58 |
flo |
hmm is it possible that indexed_search works only with rootPidList=-1 instead of a "normal" pageid? |
| 17:00 |
flo |
hmm maybe a bug... |
| 17:01 |
jameelsandham |
hi all |
| 17:01 |
jameelsandham |
denyerec you said u wanted a chat in an hour? |
| 17:02 |
Denyerec |
jameelsandham |
| 17:02 |
Denyerec |
can you see the PM? |
| 17:03 |
jameelsandham |
yeh |
| 17:03 |
Denyerec |
if you have replied, I do not see a response |
| 17:03 |
Denyerec |
so register with nickserv 1st |
| 17:03 |
Denyerec |
/msg nickserv register <password> |
| 17:03 |
Denyerec |
/msg nickserv identify <password> |
| 17:04 |
jameelsandham |
huh? |
| 17:04 |
jameelsandham |
where do i register? |
| 17:08 |
Denyerec |
You type those two commands right here |
| 17:08 |
Denyerec |
replacing <password> with your password |
| 17:08 |
Denyerec |
jus tmake one up |
| 17:08 |
Denyerec |
stops other people stealing your nick on this server, and allows you to PM others |
| 17:14 |
jameelsandham |
can you see my pvt message now? |
| 17:16 |
jameelsandham |
klkl |
| 17:16 |
jameelsandham |
oops wrong convo |
| 17:42 |
dax77 |
hi @all |
| 17:49 |
uschi |
hai dax77 |
| 18:09 |
dax77 |
re |
| 19:50 |
Tofte |
phew, im done for today... |
| 19:51 |
Tofte |
tomorrow i will be able to ask for help for the addon multilingual side |
| 21:16 |
pulponair |
hi there |
| 21:35 |
mayeco |
hii |
| 21:35 |
mayeco |
what is meaningfulTempFilePrefix? |
| 21:38 |
mayeco |
meaningfulTempFilePrefix? |
| 21:38 |
mayeco |
somebody? |
| 21:42 |
pulponair |
what about "meaningfulTempfilePrefix" ;) |
| 21:57 |
Tofte |
re |
| 23:43 |
maGe |
another question: can i fetch the content of a page and put it on pages, like child pages |
| 23:48 |
Denyerec |
yah |
| 23:48 |
Denyerec |
you can either insert content records |
| 23:49 |
Denyerec |
or insert a typoscript object that sucks content out through the CONTENT or RECORD methods |
| 23:55 |
mayeco |
how to do that.... :S |
