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00:00 vrom may be Drupal... or some ready-to-run scripts for 400$-800$ - look at hotscripts.com
00:01 vrom dzoiñ - one of this scripts
00:02 vrom or custom development on some modern framework like symphony, zend or cake
00:04 dokma I've noticed some strane behaviour on the tt_news flex form
00:04 dokma it won't save the category
00:04 dokma anyone noticed this?
00:04 vrom yes. well known bug
00:05 dokma any fixes in 4.1.2?
00:05 vrom no. it is in tt_news, not in the core. bugs.typo3.org in tt_news
00:07 dokma yeah
00:07 dokma looking into it
00:19 ries webmaster: I agree with vrom
00:20 JessicaD Goodevening!
00:20 JessicaD Need some advise again... **Sometimes I'm a big n00b**
00:21 ries JessicaD: aren't we all sometimes?
00:21 JessicaD Of course :) But when you're coding something, you don't want to be a n00b
00:22 JessicaD But Ries maybe you can help me, you've helped me out before;)
00:22 ries JessicaD: I don't know java (yet) I feel like a N0000b :D
00:23 JessicaD hehehe but you know typo3
00:27 JessicaD it's awfully here quiet tonight
00:30 elbart whats you problem JessicaD
00:30 JessicaD Well I've made a login user track tool. And it's keeping records of what page users and groups are surfing
00:30 JessicaD But now I want to show that in a backend module
00:31 JessicaD but it won't show the table and it's records
00:31 JessicaD it's very frustrating
00:32 dokma_ JessicaD: woooow
00:32 dokma_ are you actually a real girl?
00:32 JessicaD I am actually a real girl
00:32 JessicaD Hehe, is that weird?
00:33 dokma_ it is here
00:33 dokma_ seems like guys are much better at TYPO3
00:33 voidus JessicaD: ka_stats or ke_stats...
00:33 JessicaD Hahaha
00:34 JessicaD well I've written my own extension
00:34 JessicaD But I have to say that I have peeked at the code of ke stats
00:34 JessicaD Do you want to see the code?
00:34 dokma I'm way to demolished at the moment
00:34 dokma after 14 hours of work
00:34 dokma all I crave for is sleep
00:35 JessicaD Well go to sleep :)
00:35 dokma but I do cherish the fact that we got a new gurl here
00:35 dokma it's really cool
00:35 dokma you make us look less geeky
00:35 dokma bring some cute friends too
00:35 dokma :)
00:36 voidus dokma: so, two girls here.. not so bad =)
00:36 dokma yeah
00:36 dokma we almost appear like a normal crowd now
00:36 dokma if we throw all the bots out
00:36 voidus JessicaD: so.. do you want to write a backend module or just want to see records in the list view?
00:37 JessicaD Hmmm... good question voidus
00:37 JessicaD I want to have an backend menu item and that when you press it the table with the records are shown
00:37 JessicaD with of course extra options
00:38 voidus table... like table in the list module? or completely different?
00:38 JessicaD voidus this is my code http://phpfi.com/273260
00:39 JessicaD voidus not like in the list module. More like ke stats
00:39 voidus i didn't see ke stats ;)
00:40 JessicaD Just a dropdown menu where you can choose " user stats" or " group stats" and when you chose one the table with it's records are shown
00:40 JessicaD Just a normal table with text records
00:41 voidus ok.. and what's your question?
00:41 JessicaD Well... the option are shown in a dropdown menu
00:41 JessicaD and when I chose I get the table for user or group (the dropdown menu works, it calls the right function) BUT I don't see any record
00:41 JessicaD s
00:41 JessicaD it is a totally empty table
00:41 voidus btw, don't use raw utf8_en/decode functions... use $GLOBALS['LANG']->csConvObj->utf8_* instead
00:42 JessicaD oke :) That is for the CSV export
00:42 voidus raw utf8_ function work only with utf-8 <-> latin-1 conversion... but typo3's function work with other encodings too
00:43 voidus JessicaD: so.. did you debug your sql queries?
00:43 JessicaD Yeah I did
00:44 JessicaD and the SQL query is good
00:44 JessicaD at least, when I debug it, I see that the query is good
00:45 JessicaD In my code on line 260 starts the function showUserStats() That one isn't showing any records either
00:45 kreegee hm
00:45 kreegee does the pagebrowser of the tt_news searchresult use the default typo3 pagebrowser?
00:45 JessicaD I cant see where the problem is. It's a simple select statement
00:47 voidus JessicaD: me too
00:48 JessicaD voidus you don't know either where the problem is?
00:48 voidus yes.. seems like correct code
00:49 voidus what if you make COUNT(*) ?
00:49 voidus maybe you just have empty table?
00:49 JessicaD now I have a filled table
00:50 JessicaD I've seen it in phpmyadmin
00:50 JessicaD it's full with records
00:50 JessicaD so that's not really the issue
00:52 voidus and really no error in your sql?
00:52 JessicaD no error, that's the weird thing
00:52 JessicaD I see a table
00:52 JessicaD and it's displayed like
00:53 JessicaD <table><tr></td></td></td></td></tr></table>
00:53 JessicaD so it seems that the TD is wrong in my code
00:53 JessicaD but that's also good
01:15 ThePianist hi
01:16 ThePianist in menu items, can I take the link function off, e.g. the header of a drop down menu, I don't want to have a page here, just a dropdown
01:17 Denyerec pagetype SPACER ?
01:17 Denyerec not sure what you mean TBH
01:17 ThePianist what is mount point?
01:18 ThePianist Denyerec. hi!
01:18 Denyerec It's... a mount point.
01:18 Denyerec You've used unix
01:18 Denyerec same thing
01:18 Denyerec you mount something from somewhere else into that point
01:18 ThePianist I visited your webiste
01:18 ThePianist very nice
01:18 Denyerec ta
01:18 ThePianist I like the image gallery, but doen't look like T3 to me, I could need something like this too
01:19 Denyerec I wrote it from scratch
01:19 Denyerec 1st website I did.
01:19 Denyerec Very much a learning experience.
01:19 ThePianist you are such a geek ;-)
01:19 Denyerec Electronic Engineer by education... I guess it's in the blood :(
01:19 ThePianist do you have flash installed
01:19 ThePianist ?
01:19 Denyerec I have it installed, but only the viewer.
01:19 Denyerec I don't "do" flash.
01:19 ThePianist www.7thsensegraphics.com
01:20 ThePianist from scratch
01:20 ThePianist PIA!!
01:21 Denyerec Not bad, though I'm never a huge fan of all flash sites, they do look swanky
01:21 Denyerec You do the designs too?
01:21 ThePianist everything
01:22 ThePianist this is cool: www.stromeyerconsulting.com
01:22 ThePianist I mean the menu
01:22 ThePianist another PIA
01:27 ThePianist really, cool, your gallery!!!
01:27 ThePianist I need something like this for www.tdorsch.com
01:43 Denyerec That waterdrop has to be THE most overused peice of stock photography :)
01:48 voidus Denyerec: waterfall?
01:50 Denyerec the water drop.
01:50 voidus ah..
01:50 voidus yeah, maybe
01:50 voidus Drupal, for example =)
01:55 ThePianist Hi again, I can install phpmyadmin within my T3 at Yahoo, however, I have it installed in my account directory. Does this matter at all?
01:55 ThePianist I cannot install
01:55 ThePianist ugh
01:55 ThePianist All I want to manage is a full backup of my web site
01:55 voidus why you cannot?
01:56 ThePianist I don't know, just tried it with Bluehost. There I can, at Yahoo, I get a white screen, at some point I remember seeing 505 server error
01:57 ThePianist at yahoo, I installed phpmyadmin by mistake 4 times, because I thought it's an access to it, instead it installed it. How needs such an option??
01:58 ThePianist the waterdrop, LOL, my client wanted it, I told him, it's overused
01:58 ThePianist LOL
01:59 ThePianist we paid $150 for that damn image
02:00 ThePianist Also, how can I access the orginal html code of my template, where the hell did this go, after parsing it all??
02:03 Denyerec you paid 150 bucks?
02:03 Denyerec it's on iStockPhoto for $5...
02:03 Denyerec (That's where I got mine...)
02:03 Denyerec Maybe it's also the most stolen image ;)
02:03 kreegee which image are you talkin 'bout?
02:04 ThePianist 150 gettyimages, and that was the cheapest option
02:04 ThePianist I wonder how these freaks make money with such pricing
02:05 ThePianist as long as my clients pay, I don't really care
02:06 Denyerec Well, the photographer probably still got screwed
02:06 Denyerec I think only ImageShelter has a sane pricing policy for photographers.
02:07 ThePianist Yahoo so sucks, they should be forbidden
02:13 ThePianist I am done for today, bye everyone!!
02:17 Denyerec adios
02:24 kreegee [02:09] <ThePianist> I wonder how these freaks make money with such pricing <- big agencys/magazines/newspaper don't really care
02:25 kreegee content is expensive (check out prices for AP etc, not to mention bloomberg/reuters/thompson et al)
04:19 mrp Is there a way for front-end user profiles to be searchable like normal content pages? I'm not seeing anything when searching the net.
04:31 mrp Another question, what would cause front-end registrations to email the person registering, but not the admin, as configured?
04:33 ThePianist anyone here?
06:35 janand Hi all
06:35 janand need help on indexed search plugin?
07:28 tsrepadmin god morning #typo3!!!
09:06 harfang hi, I have a problem with tt_news and the teasers. It removes every html tags, this is ok, but it does not replace <p> or <br> by a space. So there are missing spaces after a "." for example. Any fix for this?
09:33 Strud can I safely delete all the content on typo3temp and then tell typo3 to empty the FE cache?
10:15 Strud besides the install too, is there a way of cleaning up the typo3temp directory
10:25 Denyerec rm -rf ./*
10:28 smurfslayer don't forget the . and be sure to be in the right dir ;)
10:30 Strud that and emptying the fe cache right?
10:30 harfang I usually do rm -rf *, without the ./ and it works too
10:30 Strud find . -type f -atime +7 -exec rm -f {} \;
10:30 Strud that would be anything older than a week...
10:31 smurfslayer yeah.. but just to do a rm -rf /* wouldn't be that good ;)
10:31 harfang I think doing a rm -rf ./* is dangerous because if you forget the . then you're bad :)
10:32 smurfslayer hey: just use the mignight commander and you are quite safe ;)
10:32 smurfslayer s/mig/mid/
10:32 Strud jeje
10:32 harfang I do not work at midnight ;)
10:32 Strud mignight... firefox, the movie? ;)
10:50 Denyerec Holy shit just2b just does not stop!
10:50 Denyerec Extension after extension after extension...
10:50 Denyerec They guy is a machine.
10:53 m0oman heh.
10:53 tuxick lo
10:54 tuxick untarred a fresh 4.1.3 + dummy, and it opens with "Warning: mkdir() [function.mkdir]: Permission denied in /usr/local/www/typo3_src-4.1.3/t3lib/class.t3lib_div.php on line 2522"
10:54 tuxick what's the secret step i missed?
10:56 tuxick i can imagine mkdir fails to create a nameless dir, but still
10:56 many naeh
10:56 many chown -R www-data /usr/local/www/typo3_src-4.1.3
10:57 many (or s/www-data/nobody/ if you're on an rpm based system)
10:57 tuxick but i verified, there's no name passed
10:57 tuxick and does typo3 really require apache write access to the entire install?
10:57 tuxick that sounds like a security hole bigger than mambo?
10:58 tuxick http://typo3.org/documentation/document-library/installation/doc_inst_upgr/1.0.0/view/3/3/ also doesn't mention this
10:58 many well
10:58 many wait, that might not make sense :>
10:58 Denyerec If your server is properly configured...
10:59 Denyerec ...then you won't have a problem giving the www group write access :)
10:59 tuxick chown -R didn't change a thing, as expected
10:59 many right
10:59 tuxick and where is "configure server properly" documented then?
10:59 tuxick anyway
10:59 many hm, darn
10:59 tuxick this is just a test install, and it's failing from the start
10:59 many its probably trying to create typo3test
11:00 many err
11:00 tuxick no, it's trying to create ""
11:00 many ?!
11:00 many maybe you set some var incorrectly?!
11:00 tuxick like?
11:00 many uploads dir or something like that
11:01 many if i knew which function did call mkdir there i could tell ya
11:01 tuxick install doc doesn't mention that
11:01 tuxick well i checked $theNewFolder = preg_replace('|/$|','',$theNewFolder); echo "going to create $theNewFolder";
11:01 tuxick oops
11:01 tuxick aha!
11:02 tuxick adding debug code helped this time
11:03 many thats an interesting idea indeed. php doesnt provide some debug_backtrace() or so?
11:03 banban is it possible to set user rights of the documents/pages according to place of the page in the tree rather than rights of the user?
11:04 many probably.
11:07 tuxick it's quite absurd that php yells about failing mkdir without saying WHAT dir
11:07 tuxick but it's also a matter of 3 seconds to ADD a line to typo3 code
11:08 tuxick which would have save me and all future users time/effort
11:08 Denyerec [10:03] <tuxick> and where is "configure server properly" documented then? <---- in the Apache 2.0 manuals ;)
11:08 Denyerec Don't rag on Typo3 for server configurations, that's not their job :)
11:08 Denyerec (Thought I will conceed that more useful error messages would be lovely)
11:08 tuxick Denyerec: for me a well configured php app installation doesn't allow apache to write to its own source
11:08 many tuxick: if you consider a bug, consider reporting the bug
11:09 many mind you, this is a rather inofficial channel.
11:09 tuxick sure
11:09 Denyerec You could just change your PHP error report var, and see what it's trying to log to the server error log.
11:09 Denyerec Lots of stuff usually gets crapped into that which doesn't appear on screen./
11:09 tuxick it's just this constant annoyance for me, i run into these small things day in day out
11:09 many however you do that.
11:10 tuxick Denyerec: that's a good thing :)
11:10 tuxick i'm against exposing php errors
11:10 tuxick but i did check errorlog of course
11:11 Denyerec When I started with this malarky, I did NOT run into those things day in and day out...
11:11 Denyerec ...so you can imagine how hard it was for me :)
11:11 tuxick sadly i have colleagues here who think running tail -f errorlog is too complicated
11:11 tuxick Denyerec: i don't only run typo3 :)
11:11 tuxick i work with several OSS platforms and a LOT of oss software
11:12 many well
11:12 many all software suck.
11:12 tuxick yup
11:13 tuxick but a guy here wants to push joomla to use for 150 subdomains
11:13 Denyerec :S
11:13 Denyerec I might not be good at Typo3, but I'm good at hurting people...
11:13 tuxick so i wanted to do a quikc typo3 install to show the alternative, and i HAVE used typo3 before
11:13 Denyerec You want him seen to?
11:13 Denyerec My rates are very reasnoble...
11:13 tuxick few years ago
11:13 Denyerec How many fingers you want him left with? ;)
11:14 Denyerec 6, 7?
11:14 Denyerec Left or Right is your call...
11:14 tuxick heeh
11:15 tuxick seriously, IS typo3 capable of handling multiple subsides properly?
11:15 tuxick subsites
11:15 tuxick all departments would be using the same template/looks etc
11:15 tuxick access control etc should be fine afair
11:17 many it has teh code
11:17 many to do that
11:17 many wether its optimum to do so... i dunno
11:19 Denyerec do you mean multiple independent domains on one install
11:19 Denyerec or different departments in the same company, accessed through different subdomains ?
11:20 tuxick the latter
11:20 Denyerec 's fine.
11:20 Denyerec That was a loaded question.
11:20 Denyerec Cos it can do both.
11:20 tuxick lol
11:20 Denyerec Just wanted to make you feel better ;)
11:20 tuxick 11:19 < tuxick> all departments would be using the same template/looks etc
11:20 tuxick i thought that was a clear question
11:20 Denyerec You might have a subsite with multiple departments...
11:20 tuxick anyway, i'll have a go and see if it all comes back to me
11:20 Denyerec ...which Typo3 could also handle ;
11:20 Denyerec ;)
11:21 Denyerec Which version of Typo did you last use ?
11:21 Denyerec 3.6 ?
11:21 tuxick something like that
11:21 tuxick it was when quickstart wasn't outdated yet ;p
11:21 Denyerec hehe
11:21 Denyerec Did you ever use TV?
11:21 Denyerec (Template voila)
11:21 tuxick nopes
11:21 tuxick that was new back then
11:21 Denyerec Look into the tutorial "Futuristic Template Building"
11:22 tuxick yes i know
11:22 tuxick i've seen the doc
11:22 Denyerec It's now very solid, and a very quick way to assemble things.
11:22 tuxick i remember using Modern Template Building tutorial
11:22 Denyerec Not so modern anymore ;)
11:23 Denyerec I think that went out with Flares ...
11:23 tuxick ok, but, to follow that do i also start with a bare install + dummy tarball?
11:23 Denyerec Yep
11:23 tuxick goodie
11:23 Denyerec Then install TV and its deps
11:23 tuxick ye
11:23 tuxick i noticed that's a package
11:23 Denyerec then dig out a html skeleton to use as the template target
11:23 Denyerec and you're 90% there
11:24 tuxick "dig out" ?
11:24 janand any one working on indexed search plugin?
11:25 nairk123 hi all
11:25 tuxick oww, search, that's another thing
11:25 nairk123 my server returns http status 200 instead of 404
11:26 tuxick i MUST have a proper search, per subsite as well as on entire site
11:26 tuxick few years ago i noticed the plugins section was a bit messy
11:26 nairk123 this happens only in the case of .html pages and for .php pages, the status returned is correct
11:26 tuxick as in "you never know if one actually works"
11:27 nairk123 can anyone help me with a solution please
11:27 nairk123 ??
11:31 nairk123 my server returns http status 200 instead of 404
11:31 nairk123 this happens only in the case of .html pages and for .php pages, the status returned is correct
11:31 nairk123 can anyone help me with a solution please
11:31 nairk123 ??
11:37 Denyerec you checked your error logs?
11:37 Denyerec both PHP and apache ?
11:46 narik123 can anyone help me with a solution please ??
11:48 janand Denyerec:Hello
11:49 janand Denyerec:any help on indexed search plugin?
11:49 tuxick Fatal Error
11:49 tuxick This module "web_layout" is not enabled in TBE_MODULES
11:49 tuxick what's that mean?
11:49 tuxick TTB doesn't mention
11:50 Denyerec narik123 - what do the apache error logs say
11:50 Denyerec janand - I have used indexed search
11:50 Denyerec but only on smallish sites.
11:52 tuxick bah
11:53 tuxick what's this error in english?
11:53 tuxick even google shows only lots of people wondering what happens when you follow instructions
11:54 tuxick rather disturbing because it's a fatal error
11:54 janand Denyerec:I have a small issue in search
11:54 narik123 Denyerec - I will check 1 sec
11:54 janand Denyerec: I have pdf on my server, i wanted the search plugin to search for text in those also
11:55 tuxick aha
11:57 fred^ the search engine in ExpressionEngine seems to work very nicely. wish indexed search was more like that
11:57 m0oman narik123: you're using realurl or cooluri i guess?
11:58 m0oman cooluri won't lead you to correct 404s by default.
11:58 m0oman not sure about realurl.
11:58 tuxick this dummy install doesn't have fileadmin/template/
11:59 tuxick does that mean i missed something or am i supposed to create it myself?
11:59 tuxick hmm
12:00 narik123 m0oman: I'm not using any extension for generating the url
12:01 narik123 m0oman: I'm using jus the aliasname of the pages which generates the html
12:01 Denyerec tuxick - you create it yourself
12:02 Denyerec fred^ - search is such an ugly topic, I don't think anyone is going to tackle it without sponsorship
12:03 narik123 Denyerec : the error log says File Not Found
12:04 Denyerec well if you're re-writing
12:04 tuxick Denyerec: naw, i'm following FTB and it was to be copied from doc_tut_ftb1
12:04 Denyerec to direct to .html instead of index.php
12:04 Denyerec then that's a problem with your URL re-writing
12:04 fred^ Denyerec that is true
12:04 fred^ although i complain, im happy that typo3 have a search engine at all
12:04 narik123 Denyerec : 1 sec let me check my .htaccess
12:04 fred^ next on my list is to test google custom search
12:05 Denyerec It would be nice if someone did sponsor someone smart to overhaul Typo3 search
12:05 Denyerec Wish I could afford to do it ;)
12:07 narik123 Denyerec: I have changed the Error Document 404 to index.html
12:07 narik123 but even then it doesn't owrk
12:07 Denyerec give an example of a URL that DOES work
12:07 Denyerec and a URL that does not.
12:08 tuxick Denyerec: IF i manage to convince colleagues that could be arranged :)
12:08 tuxick i sure don't want to end up adminning 150 joomla installs
12:08 Denyerec Awesome.
12:08 Denyerec Well...
12:09 narik123 Denyerec: http://www.immoschweiz.ch/immobilien/index12.html . .this returns http status 200
12:09 Denyerec With an offer like that, your potential for assitance in #typo3 grows exponentially
12:09 Denyerec "Meet tuxick, the guy who said he'd re-write Index Search if we help him"
12:09 Denyerec :D
12:09 narik123 Denyerec:http://www.immoschweiz.ch/immobilien/index12.php.. this returns http status 404
12:09 Denyerec Even though the page loads.
12:10 Denyerec and what is status 200?
12:10 Denyerec Success?
12:10 narik123 Yes Success
12:10 narik123 actually this page is not available on the server
12:11 tuxick Denyerec: well i'm not kidding, i can actually allocate time to such stuff, it's policy
12:11 narik123 Denyerec: in the case of first url .. the server returns http status 200 and a default template is loaded
12:11 tuxick there's just so much stuff out there
12:12 narik123 Denyerec: you can check the http status in the url http://www.seoconsultants.com/tools/headers.asp
12:12 Denyerec narik123 - i ONCE HAD A PROBLEM WITH incorrect headers coming back
12:12 Denyerec it was affecting google, as the spider was not visiting pages
12:12 Denyerec however, it was RealURL
12:12 Denyerec If you are not using RealURL to re-write your URL's, then there is not much I can do to help you.
12:13 narik123 Denyerec: I'm not using RealURL
12:17 tuxick FTB section "Create the TypoScript Template Record" shows "Template", but below that in menu i have "Templavoila"
12:17 tuxick this suggests i'm following old instructions?
12:19 tuxick also i first get a fileadmin/template and when i start TV it yells i don't have fileadmin/templates/
12:19 tuxick who's right/wrong?
12:20 janand Denyerec:any help?
12:20 janand Denyerec : Please on indexed search?
12:20 Denyerec With WHAT ?
12:21 Denyerec That's like coming in and saying "Can you help me with Typo3"
12:21 Denyerec need to put a fine tip on that question Jan :)
12:21 Denyerec tuxick - you will have both the Template AND TV module.
12:21 Denyerec You need both.
12:21 Denyerec The TV module deals with mappings, the Template module deals with what you do with those mappings and everything else TScript related
12:22 tuxick having 2 dirs, template/ and templates/ in same fileadmin/ sounds either mistaken or asking for mistakes
12:22 janand Denyerec:I have pdf's on my server, i want the indexed search to search for particular in them also?
12:22 Denyerec ah
12:22 Denyerec Yes you did :)
12:23 Denyerec Sorry Jan, my short term memory doesn't work.
12:23 pulponair hi there
12:23 janand Denyerec: Its ok :)
12:23 Denyerec tuxick - I see your point. Go with "Template"
12:23 Denyerec hey pulp
12:23 Denyerec hey just2b - another extension I see...
12:23 Denyerec You are a machine :D
12:24 pulponair Denyerec: that is because of all the chocolate he is eating all day ;)
12:25 Denyerec janand - I don't know i am afraid.
12:25 Denyerec I do not think Indexed Search can read PDFs
12:25 tuxick Denyerec: i'll just follow FTB and see where i end up :)
12:25 Denyerec but I don't know for sure.
12:25 janand Denyerec:ok :)
12:30 pulponair Denyerec: it can read pdfs
12:34 Denyerec Cool
12:34 Denyerec janand - jump on pulponair
12:35 pulponair Denyerec: it even can process .doc, xls ,ppt etc.
12:35 janand pulponair: Hi
12:36 janand Can you help me in solving indexed search issue?
12:37 janand I have several pdf in the fileadmin of my typo3 installation, i want the search engine to search them also?
12:38 pulponair janand: no problem. just link them somewhere on you page and indexed search will add them to the index
12:39 pulponair janand: but make sure you got pdf2text installed (check extension manager of indexed search)
12:39 Denyerec thats it?
12:39 Denyerec Crumbs.... tuxick you have your work cut out ;)
12:40 janand pulponair:they are already linked to one page
12:40 pulponair janand: "
12:40 pulponair Path to PDF parsers [pdftools]
12:40 pulponair The indexer uses the applications 'pdftotext' and 'pdfinfo' for extracting content from PDF files. These applications must be installed in this path. Otherwise leave the field empty.
12:40 pulponair Default: /usr/bin/"
12:41 pulponair janand: check you system for thoose tools
12:41 pulponair janand: and adjust the path
12:41 janand pulponair:ok, how can i check them?
12:42 pulponair janand: depends on your system :) if you got shell account ..log in and check for them
12:42 pulponair janand: or ask your hoster to install them ..
12:42 janand pulponair:using windows system?
12:43 pulponair janand: sorry: what did you mean? you are using a windows system?
12:43 Denyerec pulponair, follow me!
12:44 pulponair janand: http://www.bienlein.com/downloads/windows/xpdf-3.00-win32.zip
12:44 janand pulponair:i am using windows system
12:44 pulponair janand: install the windows xpdf package
12:44 pulponair janand it contains all needed binaries
12:44 pulponair janand: afterwards adjust the pdftools path of indexed search
12:45 pulponair janand: just to make sure : start -> excecute -> cmd ....cd to wherever xpdf gets installed and execute pdfinfo to see if it is running in generall
12:46 janand pulponair:ok
12:46 tuxick followin FTB isn't helping me much
12:47 pulponair Denyerec: down to the secret hideout, FAST! ;>
12:50 tuxick TemplaVoila ERROR:
12:50 tuxick Couldn't find a Data Structure set for table/row "pages:1".
12:51 tuxick i think it might be wise to forget about tv
12:51 Denyerec Uhhuh
12:51 Denyerec No
12:51 Denyerec it takes 2 minutes to set up
12:51 Denyerec the docs just suck
12:51 Denyerec You're seeing that on the frontpage right now ?
12:51 tuxick ye
12:51 Denyerec Have you assigned a TV template to the root page of your site?
12:51 tuxick if there's not docs it can't take 2 minutes to set up
12:52 Denyerec Well, I will qualify that with "once you know what you're doing"
12:52 Denyerec ;)
12:52 tuxick i did the "Create the TypoScript Template Record"
12:52 Denyerec Okj that's a TS template
12:52 tuxick after that i found stuff in "constants" as well as "setup"
12:52 Denyerec now you need a HTML skeleton to make a TV DS/TO from
12:52 tuxick i removed the stuff from "constants"
12:52 tuxick so the "setup" bit shows same as in doc
12:53 tuxick that html skeleton is what doc says i have already no?
12:53 tuxick Go to the File > Filelist module, click the ?template/main/? folder and then click the icon of the file ?template_page.html?:
12:54 Denyerec I found the free template from http://www.mollio.org/ to be OK as a test base
12:54 Denyerec Um, I think yo might need to seek out the files from the tutorial extension. I don't remember, as I didn't use theirs, I was working from my own skeleton.
12:54 tuxick aha, so that sample page i see in FTB isn't supposed to exist yet?
12:54 Denyerec Nope.
12:54 Denyerec The docs suck.
12:54 Denyerec But hey, it's free, and he's Danish :)
12:55 tuxick i noticed
12:55 Denyerec I'd love to see me write something technical in Dansih...
12:55 tuxick that bit didn't change in all those years
12:55 Denyerec Oh that would be a hoot.
12:55 tuxick this is not a language issue
12:55 Denyerec It keeps the idiot count low. All the noobies that want a "clan site" for free drop out and infest #joomla ;)
12:55 Denyerec "Only the Brave" here ;)
12:56 Denyerec but hey, shit docs is the reason irc.freenode exists.
12:56 pulponair Denyerec: hehe, but hey they are currently rewriting joomla from scratch. Based upon cakePHp
12:56 Denyerec If open source projects were as well documented as MSDN, IRC would probably implode.
12:56 Denyerec pulponair - doesn't matter what they write it based on if their principles suck.
12:57 Denyerec If their principles are as good as or better than Typo3, then hey, lets go to Joomla.
12:57 Denyerec But I for one can't stomach "Insert module box into column 2" approaches to site layout.
12:57 pulponair Denyerec: hehe, lets wait until the finished it ...then take a look
12:58 Denyerec Indeed.
12:58 pulponair s/the/they
12:58 Denyerec Do they have an ETA?
12:58 Denyerec A workable alpha Typo3 v5 is projected for the end of 2008
12:58 pulponair Denyerec: i dont know. To be honest i just picked up that "rewrite news"
13:00 Denyerec You know what
13:00 Denyerec I think I'm gonna make Molio for Typo3.
13:00 pulponair Denyerec: feel free :)
13:01 Denyerec Cos one of the SUCKIEST things about TYpo3 for new people is the fact it takes so long to get anywhere near anything nice.
13:01 pulponair Denyerec: yes right
13:01 Denyerec so it'd be great if you could just grab a template zipfile with some basic TS and get going
13:01 pulponair Denyerec: perhaps you should add a screencast to that "getting started package"
13:02 Denyerec Yeah.
13:02 Denyerec Thing is
13:02 pulponair Denyerec: no time :)
13:02 Denyerec I have NO idea how to package such a thing in an extension.
13:02 pulponair Denyerec: use a t3x export instead
13:02 tuxick it's all beginning to make sense again :)
13:02 Denyerec would be nice to have it on the TER
13:03 dokma hey guys a quickie here. how do I reference image located in typo3conf/ext/extkey/res/images/img.png from setup.txt css ?
13:03 Denyerec what is setup.txt css?
13:03 dokma default css for an extension
13:03 pulponair Denyerec: np so wrap your t3x export by an extension load it up to ter add some docs ...and there you go
13:03 Denyerec pulponair - when I get to that stage, I will come asking you for help :)
13:04 pulponair Denyerec: i am willing to participate to that "TV getting started" screencast
13:04 Denyerec I'll see if I can get a sane and Typo3-looking template done soon then :)
13:04 pulponair Denyerec: i would keep it as simple as possible....
13:05 pulponair Denyerec: just type a very simple html skelleton during the screencast and offer a more complex for downloading this will give people time to think :)
13:05 Denyerec Yes, quite.
13:06 dokma Denyerec: ext_tables.php:t3lib_extMgm::addStaticFile($_EXTKEY,'static/css/','default CSS-styles');
13:06 Denyerec A top menu build from a list of pages, a side HMENU, a content area
13:06 dokma this is the setup
13:06 Denyerec WOuldn't need much else.
13:06 pulponair Denyerec: yes right
13:06 Denyerec I see dok
13:07 Denyerec so it's the default styles that get worked in lik css_styled_content
13:07 dokma exactly
13:07 Denyerec Is there anything in css_styled_content that uses images?
13:07 Denyerec as the answer would lie in the sourcecode there.
13:07 dokma ahh good idea
13:07 dokma let me go take a look
13:07 Denyerec If not, then the RTE setup
13:07 Denyerec as there is some code there to insert icons next to links.
13:08 Denyerec heh
13:08 Denyerec time for tea for me
13:08 Fanty anyway to get typo3 NOT to save files in DOS format when using the filelist?
13:08 Denyerec nice cup of roobios / redbush
13:08 Denyerec use Unix?
13:09 Denyerec ¬_¬
13:09 Denyerec You getting hurt with linebreaks Fanty ?
13:09 Fanty yes
13:09 Denyerec :(
13:09 Fanty so its the client that makes the linebreaks in the textareas?
13:09 pulponair Denyerec: very british ;)
13:09 Denyerec when editing a file via Filelist ?
13:09 Fanty yes
13:10 Denyerec I'd be tempted to say yes.
13:10 Denyerec EG, firefox on windows inserting something different to firefox on Linux
13:10 Denyerec and thus when you read it back, interesting things might happen.
13:10 pulponair Fanty: depends on your browser ...the browser is actually the on sending the cr/lf encondig
13:10 Denyerec However I'm unsure, someone like just2b or ries might know better
13:10 pulponair Fanty: t3 just saves it to disk as it recieved it
13:11 dokma not much examples found
13:11 Fanty *sigh* .. svn conflicts suck when everything is being replaced due to cr/lf
13:11 dokma and all of them assumes extension is in typo3conf
13:11 dokma which does not have to be true
13:11 Denyerec true that fanty
13:11 Denyerec true that
13:13 pulponair Denyerec: know what? the good think about ibm thinkpads is regardless of how often you spread coffee over it it never stops working :)
13:14 Denyerec hhahaha
13:22 gerards Fanty: cr/lf causes svn conflicts?
13:22 gerards is there somewhere I read about it?
13:24 Fanty gerards: no.. I made conflicts ... and the old and new versions is saved DOS/UNIX meaning SVN conflicts on every line
13:25 gerards oh. wow, that sucks. surely your editor allows you to set the newline characters?
13:26 Fanty I don't want DOS encoding but it seems my content editors (thats using windows) make these when saving trough the filelist
13:28 pulponair Fanty: what about --ignore-eol-style
13:28 pulponair ?
13:29 Fanty pulponair: on commits?
13:30 pulponair yes
13:32 janand pulponair:hi
13:33 janand pulponair:i have installed the xpdf tools and configured the indexed search for the pdftools
13:34 janand pulponair: but when i try to search anything from the pdf it doesnt show me the result
13:39 tuxick Fanty: blaming svn for windows users?
13:40 tuxick ah right
13:40 Fanty tuxick: blaming IE
13:40 tuxick lol no shit
13:41 pulponair janand: did you recreate the index?
13:41 janand pulponair:no? can you please tell me how to?
13:43 pulponair janand: within the info module there is an option for it
13:46 janand pulponair: is it done by using the "bin" button on the info page?
13:47 pulponair janand: wait i gotta lock that up
13:48 pulponair janand: ok follow me : in the page tree select the page where you linked your pdf docs
13:48 pulponair switch over to the info module
13:49 pulponair janand: set the select box on the right to "indexed search"
13:49 janand wait a moment
13:50 janand ok done
13:50 janand pulponair: i have a modern linklist plugin over there
13:51 janand which has that pdf
13:51 pulponair janand: hmm anyway...just to make sure ...click on your rootpage element in the page tree
13:51 janand ok
13:52 pulponair afterward hit the red recycle bin button in the info menu (clears the whole index)
13:53 pulponair before recreating it manually link a pdf to one of your pages (just to make sure it is not related to modern linklist)
13:56 janand i am using file link as a content element
13:56 janand but it does not get displayed on my page
13:57 pulponair ok if your are done, surf that particular page (only this one)
13:57 pulponair janand: clear the fe cache
13:59 tuxick Denyerec: i did manage to get through the first bit of FTB :)
13:59 tuxick and got other work done as well
13:59 Denyerec *cheers*
13:59 tuxick it's not like i spent 4 hours on this
14:00 tuxick the docs aren't incorrect, just a bit confusing here and there
14:00 tuxick i remember reading a nice posting on a forum somewhere, telling a documented to "just sit down with a user who never used this, and let him follow your doc step by step"
14:00 tuxick think it was serendipity
14:01 Denyerec Why on EARTH would they want to do that...
14:01 tuxick s/documented/documenter/
14:01 Denyerec ...they'd have more work to do ;)
14:01 tuxick lol
14:01 tuxick http://www.thinkgeek.com/homeoffice/stickers/9d48/
14:01 Kurini hi
14:01 tuxick i'm gonna order these
14:01 Denyerec :)
14:02 pulponair tuxick: you ll gotta pay high taxes ;)
14:03 Kurini i want to make a backup of my typo3 4.0 installation with all the content, sites and so on and install it on another server. I would like to know if i have to make a backup of the whole database?
14:03 Denyerec sqldump from shell?
14:04 pulponair Kurini: depends on the sites size
14:05 pulponair Kurini: for small sites you ll be fine with t3d exportrs but for larger ones you have to dump the db and copy over fileadmin uploads etc by hand
14:05 Kurini ok thx thats what i want to know
14:07 janand pulponair: how can i manually link the pdf to the page.. i am not able to ..a newbie :(
14:07 janand pulponair: i linked it ?
14:08 pulponair janand: add content element of type "TEXT" within the rte type something like "link to pdf". Mark that text and hit the link button and point it to one of your pdfs
14:09 pulponair janand: dont feel offended but if you are not even able to link a file it is probably a good idea to get familiar to the basics before wrapping your mind arround thinks like "how to index pfds on my windows box"
14:10 izyAlex How to hide a field, probably to make through TCEFORM?
14:10 janand pulponair: done
14:10 pulponair izyAlex: what do you mean by "hide"? hide it from a certain user? hide it in general?
14:11 pulponair janand: clear the fe cache, surf to the fe and see if that link appears
14:11 pulponair janand: klick on that link and see if it really points to you pdf
14:11 pulponair janand: if everthing works as expected report back :)
14:11 pulponair s/everthing/everything
14:12 janand pulponair: i can see the pdf
14:12 pulponair janand: did you click on it? and does it open?
14:13 janand pulponair:yes it does open
14:14 pulponair janand: ok great
14:14 pulponair janand: now have a look at the info module of that page
14:15 pulponair janand: make a screenshot or copy and paste it to pastbin
14:15 janand pulponair:ok
14:15 janand pastbin?
14:16 pulponair janand: http://phpfi.com/
14:17 pulponair janand: used to prevent the channel from getting spammed by code snippets
14:18 janand pulponair:http://phpfi.com/273327
14:19 pulponair janand: i dont see anything :)
14:19 janand pulponair: i attached a jpg
14:20 pulponair janand: sure? there is no attachment
14:20 pulponair janand: have a look at it yourself :)
14:23 uriahheep Denyerec: hey, you around?
14:24 pulponair janand: the upload feature seems to be broken it tried it myself
14:24 janand pulponair:yes
14:25 janand pulpoanir: any other way
14:26 pulponair janand: yes upload it somewhere ...or dcc it to me
14:26 uriahheep pulponair: hey man, have you ever used Direct Mail?
14:27 pulponair uriahheep: yes several times
14:27 pulponair uriahheep: but i dont like it :)
14:27 uriahheep pulponair: hmm... would you know how to get menu links to have the baseURL in front of them?
14:27 uriahheep pulponair: neither do i :)
14:27 janand pulponair:how to use dcc?
14:28 pulponair uriahheep: yes there is an option for it
14:29 uriahheep pulponair: where? :-o
14:29 pulponair uriahheep: wait
14:29 uriahheep k
14:29 pulponair uriahheep: i ll look it up ...please tell janand how to use dcc meanwhile ;)
14:30 uriahheep ok ;)
14:31 pulponair uriahheep: ok, one way is to put a domain record on your site and use mod.web_modules.dmail.use_domain= <domain records uid >
14:31 uriahheep janand: /dcc send user file
14:31 uriahheep ;)
14:32 uriahheep pulponair: hmm, nice, thanks, i'll try that
14:32 pulponair uriahheep: furthermore there is a " Domain of internal links:" field within the newsletter which gets fille by whatever you specified
14:32 Denyerec lo Uriah
14:32 uriahheep hey Denyerec ;)
14:33 uriahheep pulponair: yeah, i have set that, but i don't think it does it right... it just makes the baseurl the url of the newsletter page
14:33 janand pulponair: did you get a request?
14:33 pulponair janand: nope
14:33 uriahheep ...so i just get http://mydomain.com/newsletters/newsletter_page/whatever_menu_item/
14:34 pulponair janand: dont you got some webspace somewhere ? just upload it
14:34 janand ok a moment
14:35 uriahheep pulponair: that mod.web_modules thing, do i put it in the setup TS of the template?
14:36 pulponair uriahheep: not it is tsconfig
14:36 uriahheep ah, ok
14:37 uriahheep pulponair: ah, but that is already set, yet not working :(
14:37 pulponair uriahheep: probably related to your page struktur...dont know
14:37 uriahheep hmm
14:38 pulponair uriahheep: i am in hurry so i aint got time to dig into it
14:38 uriahheep pulponair: also, when i try to make a direct mail from an internal page, it says the html content could not be fetched
14:38 uriahheep ah, :(
14:39 janand pulponair: i have uploaded it to my server
14:39 pulponair janand: url?
14:39 janand http://123.252.162.155:81/screen.jpg
14:40 pulponair janand: where did you link that pdf?
14:41 uriahheep pulponair: when i use an internal page, does it use fopen with the page url?
14:41 janand to the links page
14:41 pulponair uriahheep: yes
14:43 uriahheep pulponair: ok... i'm checking the logs and it's not doing so :S any idea why?
14:43 uriahheep pulponair: when i create a domain, do i have to add the http:// stuff to the string?
14:44 pulponair uriahheep: no
14:44 pulponair janand: check if it is found by indexed search now
14:45 janand pulponair: i can search any string from that pdf right?
14:45 pulponair janand: right
14:46 janand pulponair : no results :(
14:47 pulponair janand: just to make sure : clear the index, the fe cache, surf the fe and search again
14:47 pulponair janand: are you sure your xpfd tools are working and typo3 knows about its location?
14:48 janand yes i have that folder on my c drive
14:48 janand and i have that as c:\xpdf\
14:49 pulponair janand: did you try to execute one of the binaries by hand?
14:49 pulponair janand: could your check your webservers logfile ...to see if there are any problems?
14:50 janand i tried to execure by hand it gives me version no. and different options
14:54 narik123 does templavoila load a default template if an unknown subdirectory or filename is given
14:54 narik123 ??
14:55 pulponair janand: ok, check your webservers logfiles
14:55 janand pulponair: no errors
15:03 agawelczyk hi
15:06 uriahheep ok
15:06 uriahheep i've found my problem :)
15:07 uriahheep now i just need to figure out how to fix it :)
15:27 uriahheep :) got it working
15:33 uriahheep hi voidus :)
15:34 voidus hi uriahheep
15:40 uriahheep how's it going?
15:41 narik123 does templavoila load a default template if an unknown subdirectory or filename is given ??
15:41 narik123 please help\
15:42 Denyerec er
15:42 kreegee somebody ever tried to add a target to a pagelink_stdWrap ?
15:42 Denyerec well you set on the root page "Use this template for subpagtes"
15:42 Denyerec then you have a default should you not set one
15:42 kreegee plugin.tx_veguestbook_pi1.pageBrowser.pagelink_stdWrap.target = sdf2
15:42 kreegee plugin.tx_veguestbook_pi1.pageBrowser.pagelink_stdWrap.stdWrap.typolink.target = _blank
15:42 kreegee plugin.tx_veguestbook_pi1.pageBrowser.pagelink_stdWrap.stdWrap.target = _blank
15:42 kreegee plugin.tx_veguestbook_pi1.pageBrowser.pagelink_stdWrap.typolink.target = _asdfasdf
15:42 kreegee none of these work :(
15:43 voidus the last one should work
15:44 kreegee plugin.tx_veguestbook_pi1.pageBrowser.pagelink_stdWrap.typolink.target = _asdfasdf should work?
15:45 uriahheep kreegee: yeah, just change _asdfasdf for _blank ;)
15:46 kreegee i'm happy with _asdfasdf ;)
15:46 kreegee its not working anyway :(
15:47 kreegee is a plugin.tx_veguestbook_pi1.pageBrowser.pagelink_stdWrap.typolink = LINK line necessary ?
15:52 narik123 Denyerec: how do I set "Use this template for subpages"
15:53 Denyerec it's on the page properties
15:53 Denyerec where you select the normal template
15:56 narik123 Denyerec: I'm on the Edit page properties page
15:56 narik123 where shall I change the setting
15:56 pmk65 kreegee: veguestbook uses "pi_linkTP" to generate the links. That function doesn't support setting of targets AFIK. so I guess you'll have to hack the PHP code if you want to set a target property on the links.
15:56 kreegee aaaw
15:56 kreegee too bad
15:57 kreegee pmk65: do you know if tt_news also uses this for the links in pagination?
15:57 kreegee i also have the same problem with tt_news search results
15:57 kreegee and pagination
15:58 pmk65 In tt_news you can use an alternate script for pagination, I think one of them supports setting targets , but Im not sure. (The alternate paginationscripts is somewhere inside the tt_news folder)
15:59 narik123 I'm on the Edit page properties page
15:59 narik123 Denyerec :
15:59 narik123 I'm on the Edit page properties page
16:01 kreegee pmk65: thx, i'll check it out
16:01 kreegee i wan't searchresults and comments in an iframe
16:01 kreegee (ajax-ish apperance *g*)
16:02 Denyerec narik123 I am at work. Be patient, or figure it out.
16:04 narik123 Denyerec: ok
16:05 uriahheep heh
16:05 uriahheep iframe = evil
16:05 uriahheep use a div with overflow:auto;
16:05 uriahheep or, if you want, overflow-x:hidden;overflow-y:auto:
16:05 uriahheep anyway
16:06 kreegee i use both ;)
16:06 kreegee load the content into the iframe and than get push it into a div
16:06 kreegee ;)
16:06 uriahheep then, you fetch the page you want with ajax, and inject it into that div with document.getElementById('myDiv').innerHTML = theContentVar;
16:06 kreegee iframe != evil
16:06 uriahheep ewww
16:06 kreegee i don't know much about ajax and typo3
16:06 uriahheep iframe used in that way == absolute evil
16:06 uriahheep :S
16:06 kreegee lol
16:07 kreegee it's easier
16:07 uriahheep doesn't matter, just use normal ajax functions and make a plain HTML content element
16:07 uriahheep :P
16:07 Denyerec narik123 - it should be right there on the properties page
16:07 Denyerec TemplaVoila Template
16:07 Denyerec or something like that
16:07 Denyerec a dropdown box, that lists the TV templates you have
16:07 kreegee where do i find infos about fetching content elements?
16:08 Denyerec iframe = evil
16:08 kreegee (altough that still wouldn't help me with the pagination problems
16:08 kreegee iframe = ok since w3c added it to xhtml
16:08 kreegee iframe was evil in ie4-times
16:08 narik123 Denyerec: ok . I will check
16:08 kreegee now, every browser supports it
16:09 uriahheep Denyerec: have you tried personalizing the direct mail content yet?
16:12 narik123 Denyerec: in Page Template Structure .. I have chosen one templare from the drop down and I deselected the template for the subpages
16:13 Denyerec nouri
16:13 Denyerec no uriahheep
16:13 Denyerec :(
16:13 narik123 Denyerec: it didn't work
16:17 Tchinkatchuk hi all
16:17 uriahheep Denyerec: hmm, ok
16:18 kolter hi
16:18 Tchinkatchuk hi
16:19 Tchinkatchuk I have an issue with update from tt_products 141 to 151. My template is not parse anymore with the same config
16:19 kolter i'have something strange, is there known issues about option useDIVasParagraphTagForRTE not working in RTE config ?
16:20 Tchinkatchuk my product are in the page, i Have inserted the tt porduct pugins and I have the template file in TS. It was working with 1.4.1. But with 1.5.1, noting is display
16:27 wacky_ Anyone using kj_imagelightbox_v2 ?
16:31 wacky_ Oh, found the problem.
16:31 wacky_ It interfered with mootools.
16:31 wacky_ since it loads prototype/scriptaculous
16:32 tuxick m00
16:59 sschu I've a very anoying bug in rendered page. Sometimes (not on every view), the following page is rendered incorrectly. It seems it doesn't matter, if caching is enabled or not. :(
16:59 sschu http://www.iw.uni-hannover.de/vorlesungen.0.html?&no_cache=1
17:00 sschu there should be a list of our lectures... Sometimes the htmlareaRTE isn't capable displaying the page for editing to.
17:02 sschu Any ideas, what could raise this annoying error?
17:02 sschu different typo3 versions has been tested...
17:09 sschu at the moment typo v4.1.3 and php v5.2.4-2 are used on a Debian x64 server
18:02 kv0s Hi
18:02 kv0s Grm
18:02 kv0s Realurl update ...
18:02 kv0s and now:
18:02 kv0s Error!
18:02 kv0s Reason: Segment "ausbildung" was not a keyword for a postVarSet as expected!
18:02 kv0s ?!? Any ideas?
18:07 kv0s Help! ;-)
18:07 kv0s I've killed my realurl ... :-(((
18:27 ries kv0s: cñear your realUrl cache?
18:28 Denyerec Anyone know of a way to process all special chars into HTML entities but NOT affect quotes, or HTML tags?
18:29 Denyerec eg replace only alphabet characters
18:29 Denyerec cos doing this by hand is going to hurt.]
18:29 Denyerec :/
18:31 mrp Any Front-End User Registration extension experts in here?
18:32 Phlogi mrp: whats wrong?
18:33 mrp After a front-end user fills out the registration form, the emails are sent to the admin and user to confirm the email, however, the page then times out.
18:33 mrp Visit the link that the email contains to confirm, it times out there as well.
18:33 mrp Visit the page directly, shows the registration form.
18:33 mrp I'm a new admin in this system walking in to a HUGE mess of the previous typo3 admin who apparently doesn't know how to properly admin typo3.
18:33 mrp :-P
18:34 Denyerec Unlucky.
18:34 mrp Tell me about it.
18:34 Denyerec It's not very pretty when you DO know what you're doing
18:34 mrp hahah
18:34 mrp The prevous admin walked out a week before this presentation to some clients.
18:35 mrp So the heads contracted me, and this is just so ugly.
18:37 mrp What's sad, is that they don't even need a CMS, but for some reason, they chose the most complicated, complex, convoluted software they could.
18:41 Phlogi the frontend user registration plugin sucks anyway. Someone really should write a new one
18:41 mrp Are there any others that suck a little less, and possibly work a little better?
18:41 Phlogi I don't know...
18:42 Phlogi could it be a realUrl problem in your case?
18:42 mrp It could be anything. Trying to learn this system in a week is like learning Japanese.
18:44 Denyerec [17:41] <mrp> What's sad, is that they don't even need a CMS, but for some reason, they chose the most complicated, complex, convoluted software they could.
18:44 Denyerec Actually they chose the best free platform out there.
18:45 mrp Powerful != Best.
18:45 Denyerec There are many commercial systems that cost upwards of £50,000 per, that are more complicated, more complex, more convoluted and definately not as good.
18:45 mrp I'll agree with you there.
18:45 Denyerec something called Tridion, makes Typo3 look like lego.
18:45 Denyerec Though in this case, Lego is useful ;)
18:51 MikeK hello, if there someone who can explain me a little about replacing dummy content in my css/html menu...? I made it work, just by copy/paste a sample, but I really don't understand how does it working :-( Please?
18:53 Denyerec start by pastecoding your example
18:53 Denyerec and you might get someone interested.
18:56 MikeK << Denyerec >> sorry to disturb, i didnt read the green text fully :) so, i formated code at phpfi.com now I should just copy/paste it?
18:57 Denyerec yep
18:57 Denyerec the LINK
18:57 Denyerec not the code
19:06 MikeK If someone can please, explain me how does the typo script replaces the html dummy content in the code there http://phpfi.com/273413 I really dont understand some things...
19:08 kv0s Hi!
19:09 Denyerec Well the typoscript object you created mikek
19:09 snowman Denyerec: got help with you special charcater problem?
19:09 Denyerec is called temp.nav
19:09 Denyerec snowman - I did it manually
19:10 Denyerec Turns out the Finnish use a lot of &aumlt; and not much else.
19:10 kv0s I've just updated my realurl ... :-( Bad idea ...
19:10 Denyerec So MikeK - you will need to map temp.nav into that part of your template.
19:10 Denyerec I have not eaten today
19:10 Denyerec Hungry hungry
19:10 mrp hippo
19:10 MikeK Deny
19:10 kv0s A working config, now displays .. http://www.freizeittaucher-marbach.de/training-im-bottwartal/
19:10 kv0s Any ideas?
19:10 snowman Denyerec: you should have done it this way: replacing " with ++++ ' with ---- htmlspecialchar, replacing --- with ...
19:10 snowman kv0s whats the problem?
19:11 snowman kv0s: show your realurl config.
19:11 snowman did you enable autoconfig?
19:12 kv0s snowman: Before i've updated the extension .. it works. Now it doesn't work... at changelog i don't found any hints ...
19:12 MikeK Denyerec, I am sorry I just ommited all the things besides Menu object, the whole code works and replacing dummy content as suppossed, I just dont understand HOW does it work :)
19:12 Denyerec how the temp.nav structure workds
19:12 snowman did you move your localconf settings from realurl to the config file you set in the extension manger?
19:12 Denyerec or how it replaces things
19:12 kv0s snowman: error: Reason: Segment "ausbildung" was not a keyword for a postVarSet as expected!
19:12 kv0s snowman:mhmmm... moment.
19:13 MikeK Well, I dont understand how does Typoscript understands where the Secondlevel begins
19:13 Denyerec MikeK - check your private messages
19:13 MikeK ok
19:13 Denyerec You might need to register with Nickserv
19:14 kv0s snowman: copy the realurl lines from localconf.php to realurl_autoconfig.php?
19:15 MikeK Denyerec do you see my answers in private?
19:15 Denyerec Nope
19:15 Denyerec You might need to register with Nickserv
19:15 Denyerec odd quit msg
19:15 MikeK ah, this name is owned, I think i have to change it, Ill brb
19:16 Denyerec Nono
19:16 Denyerec just register it
19:16 Denyerec /msg NickServ REGISTER <password>
19:16 Denyerec followed by
19:16 Denyerec /msg NickServ IDENTIFY <password>
19:16 MikeK say ah ok
19:18 MikeK i have a message - "this name is owned by someone esle, if this is yours type /msg NickSrv IDENTIFY password..
19:18 Denyerec Doh
19:18 Denyerec looks like you need to type /nick MikeK2
19:18 Denyerec ;)
19:18 MikeK so I have to relog with other name
19:18 MikeK aye :)
19:18 Denyerec no need to relog
19:18 Denyerec just type it
19:18 kl4m Hi, if I want to migrate a site to another server, is moving the files and a dump of the DB enough as far as typo3 is concerned (not talking about apache, DNS, etc.)
19:18 Denyerec /nick <name>
19:18 kv0s snowman: huhu?
19:19 Denyerec kl4m - if you don't get an SQL version mismatch which knackers your charset, then yeah pretty much
19:19 Denyerec ok MikeK2 now register that one :)
19:20 MikeK2 looks like I did it, however I didnt got any message whether it was succefully or not
19:22 Denyerec try messaging me.
19:28 starnat hello
19:29 mayeco hello starnat
19:29 starnat bahh
19:52 pulponair rehi dudes
19:59 Francisco Hi guys
19:59 Francisco I'm learning to use Typo3
19:59 pulponair Francisco: welcome to the club
19:59 pulponair ;)
19:59 Francisco But it doesn't work like the Documents describes.
20:00 pulponair Francisco: a lot of the documentation is outdated or incomplete
20:00 Francisco Mhh
20:00 pulponair Francisco: what is your problem acutally?
20:01 Francisco i want to make a template, but typo3 creates an own header and writes it down in top of my header.
20:02 pulponair Francisco: templateautoparser or templavoila?
20:02 Francisco so i tell my way
20:03 snowman kv0s: sorry ;-)
20:03 Francisco at first i created a lil page tree, than i selected Web>Template, uploaded an index.html and edetid the setup
20:04 Francisco wrote in a few lines, setting the index.html
20:04 snowman kv0s yes
20:04 snowman look at the extension manger -> realurl
20:04 snowman uncheck the line autoconfig
20:04 snowman and then look whats the name for the realurl conf file
20:05 snowman thats where you move your localconf settings
20:06 pulponair Francisco: that is the oldschool way...sorry i ve never used it that way. I use Templavoila on all my projects
20:06 Francisco mhh where can i find something about templavoila?
20:06 kv0s snowman: copied. but "Reason: Segment "training-im-bottwartal" was not a keyword for a postVarSet as expected!" appears again ... :-(
20:06 pulponair Francisco: there is a "futuristic template building tutorial"
20:07 pulponair Francisco: http://typo3.org/documentation/document-library/tutorials/doc_tut_ftb1/current/
20:07 Francisco :'( thats the stuff i read...
20:08 Francisco oh no
20:08 Francisco wait a second
20:08 pulponair Francisco: you probably read "modern template building" :)
20:08 Francisco ah tahts much better
20:09 Francisco one question about it before i go and make me work
20:09 snowman kv0s: take this config: http://phpfi.com/273301
20:09 snowman don't forget to set the rootpage id
20:09 Francisco does it create table layout? table layout isn't futuristic and nothing that i can sell to my customers
20:09 pulponair Francisco: shot :)
20:10 pulponair Francisco: no its up to you what layout it creates
20:11 pulponair Francisco: basically it works like this : show it a html skeleton and map "content areas" to it e.g. div id="content_lefT" should contain the left content column and so on
20:11 pulponair Francisco: read the tutorial it will clear up things
20:11 Francisco okay thats what i use in normal way.
20:12 sebkur hi
20:12 pulponair Francisco: yes it is very flexible
20:12 pulponair Francisco: feel free to come back to me if you finished the tutorial ...
20:15 kv0s snowman: Thanks. It works.
20:15 kv0s snowman: only tt_news ... but .. not today .. ,-)
20:15 kv0s Many thanks!
20:16 Francisco is there any german version of this tutorial?
20:16 pulponair Francisco: no i dont think so
20:17 Francisco okay. if i want to read it, i must translate it for me, so i can make a real german version of it.
20:17 pulponair Francisco: what is wrong with the english version?
20:18 Francisco its difficult to understand for germans...
20:18 pulponair Francisco: i mean it mostly consists of screenshots
20:18 tuxick lol
20:18 tuxick i remember some years ago when the only proper doc was in german
20:18 tuxick has it been translated yet?
20:18 pulponair Francisco: i dont think so since i am german too
20:20 pulponair Francisco: at least one half is ,)
20:20 Francisco woooooho ? youre speaking german? grm* and i was trying to speak english all the time
20:20 pulponair Francisco: yes because of the channel rules :)
20:21 pulponair cheers btw
20:23 pulponair Francisco: join #typo3_off_topic if you would like to continue this discussion in german
20:26 ThePianist Hi everybody
20:28 ThePianist is there an extension that may be useful to create a layout of a companies management? Sort of a diagram which allows to list names..
20:39 Francisco mhhh
20:39 Francisco downloaded the template extension
20:39 Francisco uploaded it
20:39 Francisco installed it
20:39 Francisco and selected web>page in the navigation
20:39 Francisco all i got was an fatal error: This module "web_layout" is not enabled in TBE_MODULES
20:40 Francisco after i installed the template extension
20:42 Francisco everybody away?
20:42 bauschan hi there
20:43 Francisco found a way
20:43 pulponair Francisco: relogin
20:44 bauschan anybody seen kraftb?
20:46 snowman bye
20:47 Francisco Tutorial: If you didn't import the tutorial extension "doc_tut_ftb1" from TER you should do that now! <--- is there a need of? or can i use my own template
20:48 pulponair Francisco: i wouldnt import it but doing it from scratch
20:50 Awillys hi there
20:51 Awillys anyone knows an extension that extended the fe_user table with a country flag selection?
20:52 pulponair Awillys: hi dude ..
20:52 Awillys pulponair: heya :)
20:53 pulponair Awillys: do you really need an extra field for the flag? i mean there is a country which means ther is a flag too :) (indirectly)
20:54 Awillys yeah
20:54 Awillys i can get the country out
20:54 Awillys but not the flag
20:54 Awillys not sure how to make the relation
20:54 Awillys in fe_user, country is entered manually
20:54 Awillys so it could be anythg crap ^^
20:57 pulponair Awillys: doesnt static_info_tables adds a country "selectbox" to fe_users?
20:58 Francisco how do i place a folder at the end of the page tree?
20:58 Francisco the folder always is at the first
20:58 Awillys pulponair: hum
20:58 pulponair Awillys: i ll look it up stay tuned
20:59 Awillys k, cheers
21:00 pulponair Awillys: unfortunatly it does not ...but ...if you got your fe_users from fe_user_register there should be a normalized country (since they do it via a selectbox from static_info_tables)
21:02 Awillys pulponair: if only my page was that simple ^^ My users comes from vbulletin ;)
21:03 pulponair Awillys: so you are authentificating against vbulletin?
21:03 Awillys pulponair: yes
21:03 pulponair Awillys: using an authservice?
21:04 voidus anyone made CONTENT with .joins ?
21:04 Awillys pulponair: yes
21:08 pulponair Awillys: so why dont you check the vbulletin country field against static infotables on "first login"
21:08 Awillys pulponair: because i am no coder ^^
21:08 Awillys but i found a way around
21:08 pulponair Awillys: i could do for you
21:09 pulponair Awillys: ah ok
21:09 Awillys itemporary
21:09 Awillys i could use the image filed
21:09 Awillys not ideal though
21:09 Awillys can you look into it?
21:09 Awillys vb thingy
21:09 Francisco new question
21:10 pulponair Awillys: yes i could but not atm since i am not like doing any coding stuff atm (have to relax)
21:10 Francisco after i created field_menu theres no possibillity to make a field_content
21:10 Awillys pulponair: yeap no worries
21:10 Awillys it's not urgent
21:10 Awillys just let me know when you feel like it in the next days or smthg
21:10 Francisco because the step there i must enter the name like field_........... isnt there
21:11 pulponair Awillys: but drop me an email, consisting of what you actually need and ill have a look at it on monday ok?
21:11 Awillys pulponair: okay doki
21:12 pulponair Awillys: btw wasnt it you who ask me about that snowfun think half a year ago or something?
21:12 Francisco oh i know how
21:12 pulponair s/think/thing
21:12 Awillys Francisco: yeap it was
21:12 Awillys how is that going?
21:12 Awillys pulponair: **
21:12 Awillys nor franscisco , sry ^^
21:13 pulponair Awillys: well it is not related to that particular indoor ski thing but to another one. here is the story: i became 30 last wed. and my pals hijackt me and took me to the "snow down" (which is another indoor ski park over here)
21:14 Awillys whe are you again?
21:14 Awillys *where
21:14 pulponair Awillys: well i ve never done skiing before and i was falling down all the time
21:14 pulponair Awillys: hamburg, germany
21:15 MikeK2 anyone knows how to disable lhref link in a menu item? I tried to set it as external url with link # but the link hadnt changed in generated output?
21:16 pulponair Awillys: : not good enough by half thoose bastard recorded everthing on DV ...
21:16 pulponair Awillys: wanna watch the video ?
21:17 MikeK2 I mean I dont want 1st level menu refering anywhere, the 2nd+ level is for this
21:17 Awillys pulponair: yeap
21:17 Awillys show me :)
21:17 pulponair Awillys: ok query please i dont wanna come clean in public ;>
21:28 Awillys what's the best option for a search typo3 search extension nowadays?
21:28 Awillys google_api ext?
21:28 pulponair Awillys: i still use indexed_search but there might be better ways
21:29 Awillys ah, indexed search gives me crappy results. i must not have configured it properly or smthg
21:31 pulponair Awillys: yes indexed search isnt that "perfect"
21:35 wacky_ Is it possible to modify some extConf variables within TypoScript, Templates or TSconfig, or something else ?
21:35 pulponair wacky_: nope
21:35 wacky_ I'd like to modify on of the $extConf elements according to language
21:35 pulponair wacky_: if the extension does not supports it by default
21:35 uriahheep oh noes
21:35 uriahheep i have an unsurmountable problem :(
21:36 pulponair wacky_: you could create an extension and override it but that would be really ugly
21:36 wacky_ or just patch it..
21:36 pulponair wacky_: yes
21:36 wacky_ and make it grab some LLL:blah
21:36 pulponair wacky_: xclassing it
21:37 pulponair wacky_: or hooking it ..(if it provides a hook)
21:39 wacky_ hmm.. maybe a good patch would be to use those getData() methods (and resolve all the EXT:, LLL:, DB: prefixes) to specify the variable value ?
21:39 uriahheep pulponair: i've created a second domain for the french newsletters in direct mail (because the /fr at the beginning of the path would not show up in emails i was test-sending), and now using that domain makes direct mail try to fetch at http://mydomain.com/fr/index.php?id=78
21:40 uriahheep pulponair: of course, this shows a typo3 error... so yeah.. any idea on how i could fix this?
21:41 pulponair uriahheep: hehe sorry man you are an unlucky guy i was just about to leave (actually i have to do some afk work)
21:41 uriahheep aw :(
21:42 uriahheep pulponair: i guess i'll try to see if there is an exception variable somewhere that i can use...
22:12 wacky_ ok, solved by using language-free images :)
22:14 tuxick cheat!
22:23 pulponair re
22:24 uriahheep heheh
22:24 uriahheep now i can pick your brain :)
22:24 uriahheep just when i was going to give up :(
22:24 pulponair OT: is anyone aware of a good webcam?
22:24 uriahheep hmmm
22:24 uriahheep well, the one integrated in my laptop is sweet
22:25 uriahheep and it's linux-supported!
22:25 pulponair uriahheep: does it work in "dark environment"
22:25 pulponair uriahheep: or does it "overlight"
22:25 uriahheep yeah, pretty well i think
22:26 uriahheep hmm
22:26 pulponair uriahheep: so if you darken you room and point it to a light thing lets say the tv does it still perform well?
22:26 uriahheep well, when i go outside it can't see anything haha :P
22:26 uriahheep i don't think it captures that well, no :(
22:27 uriahheep pulponair: do you remember what my problem was?
22:27 pulponair uriahheep: something language related
22:27 uriahheep yeah...
22:28 pulponair uriahheep: : ok go on i ll get myself a beer meanwhile
22:28 uriahheep links in the emails that i sent didn't give a damn about linking to the french page, so i had to make the domain "www.domain.com/fr/" for that section
22:28 uriahheep heheh, k
22:29 uriahheep now, though, the problem is that direct mail tries to fetch www.domain.com/fr/index.php?id=78 instead of www.domain.com/index.php?id=78
22:29 uriahheep and, well... i guess i could hack the code... but i'd rather not ;)
22:30 uriahheep but i need that domain to be used for links, i believe, but it doesn't make the direct mail fetching process happy
22:30 pulponair uriahheep: :
22:30 pulponair i dont get it ...
22:30 uriahheep :-o
22:30 uriahheep ok
22:30 uriahheep well, let's see..
22:30 pulponair please describe what you need and what you get atm
22:30 uriahheep ok
22:30 pulponair cheers btw
22:30 uriahheep cheers ;)
22:31 uriahheep i'll be joining you in on that beer in a couple of hours, heheh
22:31 uriahheep so, what i need is for link urls in my french newsletters to be prepended with www.domain.com/fr/
22:32 uriahheep i used baseURL for that and when viewing the actual page it worked, but when the email got sent, the link would only begin with www.domain.com/
22:33 uriahheep so, i figured that was because of the domain that direct mail uses... so i created a new one... one with www.domain.com/fr/ instead or www.domain.com/
22:34 uriahheep of course, i haven't been able to test that
22:34 uriahheep because now when i try to fetch/compile the content, direct mail tried to fetch www.domain.com/fr/index.php?id=78, instead of the usual www.domain.com/index.php?id=78
22:35 uriahheep so i need direct mail to fetch the usual www.domain.com/index.php?id=78
22:35 uriahheep pulponair: ...got that? :-/
22:35 pulponair yes
22:36 uriahheep ok :)
22:36 pulponair that /fr domain thing is crap
22:36 uriahheep hmm, ok
22:36 uriahheep won't work?
22:36 pulponair no it is not crap its just ugly
22:36 pulponair nope since /fr isnt a domain ;)
22:37 tuxick it's french!
22:37 pulponair tuxick: goan
22:37 uriahheep oh, ok
22:37 pulponair uriahheep: so tell me more about your sites structure ie. how do you send (would like to send newsletters)
22:37 uriahheep hmm...
22:38 uriahheep where should i start?
22:38 wacky_ What's the best / easiest way to present tt_news stuff as a Calendar ??
22:38 pulponair uriahheep: well you need to send newsletters in a bunch of different languages right?
22:38 uriahheep site -> root page -> Newsletters sysfolder -> eng sysfolder and fra sysfolder, where i store the mail pages
22:39 pulponair uriahheep: i mean the "same" newsletter in 1 to n different languages right?
22:39 uriahheep yeah
22:39 pulponair ok but you eigther have to use different "leaves" for each language or use the L=1 translation thing
22:39 uriahheep well, i would just make copies and put them in the other language's sysfolder, then translate the text in it... then send to the recipients that want the mail in french :P
22:39 pulponair uriahheep: dont mix up things
22:40 uriahheep and, well, in the "fra" sysfolder i put a template that sets the language to french
22:40 pulponair uriahheep: ok if you do it in a multitree manner you should keep it through
22:41 uriahheep so anything in there's template (supposedly even the menus' urls) would be in french
22:41 uriahheep pulponair: also, that's the only only section of the site that is multi-tree
22:42 uriahheep just cause direct mail doesn't seem to have multi-language support... right?
22:42 pulponair uriahheep: it has
22:42 uriahheep how?
22:42 uriahheep the extra extension?
22:43 pulponair uriahheep: parameter html : L=your language uid (in a single tree environment)
22:44 uriahheep hmm
22:44 pulponair uriahheep: but if you mix up things it gets confused
22:44 uriahheep well, wait
22:44 uriahheep i'll have to do that on a per-newsletter basis, then, right?
22:45 pulponair uriahheep: : i would give it a try yes
22:45 pulponair uriahheep: create a test newsletter leave
22:46 pulponair uriahheep: set its template up as it would be a normal multiligual page
22:46 uriahheep oh wow
22:46 uriahheep i think i see what you mean...
22:46 uriahheep well
22:46 uriahheep sort of
22:46 uriahheep :)
22:46 uriahheep 1 sec
22:47 uriahheep oooo
22:47 uriahheep it started working again
22:47 uriahheep let's test.
22:48 uriahheep no
22:48 uriahheep doesn't work
22:48 pulponair uriahheep: hmm ok lets get back to that multitree think
22:49 pulponair uriahheep: you got 2 folders : newsletter whatever and newsletter french right?
22:49 uriahheep yeah
22:50 pulponair uriahheep: so even if directmail wouldnt support multilingual page we wouldnt care right?
22:52 uriahheep oh man
22:52 uriahheep i got it to work :D
22:52 uriahheep !!
22:52 pulponair ok
22:52 uriahheep pulponair: thanks man, your L=1 worked in the fra sysfolder
22:53 uriahheep but it had to be &L=1, not just L=1 ;)
22:53 pulponair uriahheep: finally we mixed up things ..but who cares if it works
22:53 uriahheep yeah
22:53 pulponair uriahheep: oh ok that it thought that would be obvious
22:53 uriahheep but anyway
22:53 uriahheep it's better to do this, because this way it's more user friends
22:54 uriahheep friendly*
22:54 pulponair uriahheep: yes at least because of different recipient lists
22:54 uriahheep they can store french directmails in the french section, english ones in the english section, etc...
22:54 pulponair uriahheep: since i dont thing direct mail is smart enought to determine the recipents language on its own
22:54 uriahheep and yeah, different recipient list
22:54 uriahheep nah, i don't think it is
22:55 pulponair uriahheep: but interessting question btw
22:55 uriahheep there is an extension that might do that, but i'm tired of messing around with more and more extensions ;)
22:55 uriahheep pulponair: interesting question? which one?
22:55 uriahheep the domain thing at the beginning?
22:55 pulponair uriahheep: rule no1. try to solve everthing without extension. nope the "fecht the recipients language on the fly"
22:56 pulponair uriahheep: imagine what would happen if you got a hungarian recipient but no hungarian newsletter ? will he get one ? will he get the default one ? and so on ..
22:57 pulponair uriahheep: anyway finally it works ...and nothin else cares
22:58 pulponair uriahheep: btw: cheers
23:04 Denyerec uriahheep - still fighting DirectMail?
23:05 Denyerec if you want to localise, you can add GVARs to the page string based on users, I *think*
23:05 Denyerec so a french user would get a french newsletter
23:05 pulponair Denyerec: we just beat it
23:05 Denyerec but you'd have to identify the user as french somewhere...
23:06 pulponair Denyerec: multitree
23:06 uriahheep pulponair: :)
23:06 Denyerec Just creating two newsletters?
23:07 uriahheep pulponair: cheers to you too, thanks for your help ;)
23:07 pulponair Denyerec: yes ...ugly but working
23:07 uriahheep ugly, but less complicated for the users that will be using this system as well
23:07 Denyerec This is very true
23:07 Denyerec did you mess with Directmail Categories?
23:08 pulponair Denyerec: runnnn
23:08 uriahheep they won't like putting &L=1 in the HTML parameters every time theywant to send a french version of the newsletter :P
23:08 pulponair hmm something is wrong with realurl
23:08 pulponair i am experiencing strang things on some of my installations
23:08 pulponair strange i meant
23:08 uriahheep like what?
23:09 pulponair and editor changes some content and ~24 later (when the cache expires) i get that "invalid post var set error"
23:10 pulponair if i clear the fe cache everthing works again..until the editor changes something ...
23:10 uriahheep hmmm
23:10 pulponair it doenst happen if the admin changes things
23:10 pulponair strange hum?
23:10 uriahheep i think i've seen that on my install before... but not today or yesterday :
23:10 uriahheep :P
23:10 uriahheep lol
23:10 uriahheep anyway, i'll be on later on
23:10 uriahheep i'm heading home now ;)
23:11 pulponair uriahheep: get yourself a beer
23:11 uriahheep indeed.
23:11 uriahheep i owe it to myself
23:11 uriahheep that and some good montreal smoked meat!
23:11 uriahheep :)
23:11 uriahheep i'll talk to you later, good luck with your problem :)
23:12 pulponair montreal smoked meat?
23:12 pulponair wtf?
23:12 pulponair sounds french *g
23:29 pulponair hmmm installing extensions globally is cool when using eaccelerator but it is uncool when upgrading
23:48 yassine evening everyone
23:50 pulponair good night ;)
23:51 yassine !seen ries

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