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00:06 kreegee whats the best gallery for typo3?
00:06 kreegee lz_gallery seems kinda outdated
00:11 void kreegee: rg_smoothgallery for dam, jm_gallery without dam
00:12 kreegee great, thx
00:12 kreegee should look into dam anyway
00:12 kreegee seems a good idea for a magazine archive and online news
00:12 kreegee (and deadline has just pushed into 2008, hehe)
00:24 kreegee isn't .t3x just a zip file?
00:25 void kreegee: no, it's gzip+md5+serialized emconf + some magic
00:34 kreegee ok
00:34 kreegee so i can't simply open it with winrar?
00:35 kreegee (at least it didn0t work)
00:41 sw_bluntman ries: You around?
00:49 void kreegee: no... only EM can unpack them
01:03 kreegee void: ok, thx
08:03 umc guys, do you know any other way to install extensions except the ext manager way ? can they be installed somehow from the command line if you have the t3x file ?
08:19 foool umc you there
08:20 foool download the TX file and go to ext manager - scroll to bottom of page and import the file
08:20 umc yes foool
08:20 umc I know that :)
08:21 umc I was wondering if it could be done with some command line
08:21 foool oh! i tohught you were asking
08:21 umc we have to deploy typo3 on a gentoo server and the admin wanted to make some ebuilds...
08:22 mosez typo3 and ebuilds... bad :P
08:22 umc why ? :)
08:23 mosez i think there are no ebuilds out there which really works...
08:23 umc this are smart guys... :D
08:23 mosez hehe
08:23 umc they made ebuilds of a really complex project we're working on...
08:23 mosez i have written ebuilds for my own too -> gnopaste and gnopaster :)
08:24 umc for typo3, we need an ebuild with the sources, and then for each project a separate ebuild for the extensions
08:24 umc for dummy I meant
08:24 umc that contain extensions for each project and the other specific folders
08:24 mosez you can copy the extensions within the ebuild, but dont know how you can install them
08:25 mosez with webapp-config you can define sql files... try this :)
08:25 mosez you know webapp-config?
08:25 umc than I'll probably install them on my dev machine (where I set up thhe projects anyway), and then they'll make an ebuild of the final product... I guess :)
08:25 umc no... didn't work with that
08:26 mosez with webapp-config you can install webapplications directly to the vhosts. take a look at phpmyadmin ebuild.
08:27 mosez i have fighted one year to get a gentoo development machine for our webapplications :D
08:32 umc :))
08:33 umc I don't think I'm gonna spent that much time on that :)
08:34 mosez i'm working for a year for my company... and since yesterday i compile on an ew server for the applications. it is much better than a debian system...
08:43 umc yeah.. we switched our entire cluster on gentoo :)
08:43 umc and our virtual dev machines are gentoo too
08:45 mosez i'm working for a small development team only. the datacenter is not my job =)
08:46 mosez on the gaming section the big cluster with xen is based on gentoo too
09:01 umc do you also use the separated way of installing typo3 projects ? sources in one place and each project links to them ?
09:07 mosez dont working so much with typo3
09:13 FloLeBlanc hi all
09:25 yang I cannot get typo3 website displayed I followed the debian manual, here is the config
09:25 yang http://openpaste.org/en/3994/
10:15 dokma hi guys and girls
10:15 dokma my confirm links are empty in sr_feuser_register confirm mails
10:15 dokma anyone had this predicament?
10:23 mar77i morning
10:24 mar77i I'm looking for the thumbnail options for multi-columned click-enlarge IMAGE-objects... erm...
10:29 mar77i what possibilities are there to display a 3-cols table of thumbnails?
10:31 num000 good morning t3 community
10:32 umc mar77i: I had to display on a lot of pages a 3x2 table of images, at the top, so I made a content element with templavoila
10:33 mar77i thumbed by tv?
10:35 mar77i so you had the thumbnails created by tv?
10:35 umc I had to display images actually. not thumbs...
10:36 umc but I made a container with 6 places, where I could add whatever I wanted
10:36 umc and I added an image in each one
10:36 umc and those images can be specified to have certain heights and withs...
10:36 umc it's just like adding a normal image
10:38 mar77i yes... the thing is, if these images are too big then the client has to download the whole poster to resize it by his browser. there is the option of the IMAGE element to click-enlarge pictures. and to display them in columns, and there's supposed to be a way to config that display... but I'm just not seeing it for now
10:43 mar77i guess it's something like tt_content.images.file.width and tt_content.images.file.height...
10:51 umc oh... I see what you mean mar77i, but I didn't need to do that... usually I resize images before I upload them, because I know at what dimensions they're gonna be displayed
10:58 mar77i i want it to have 200px in width. And t3 makes it 110 all the time... y?
11:03 num000 has anyone used typo3 for a online newspaper, i'm specially looking for extensions which can handle editors which can write their commentaries etc.
11:11 pulponair hi there
11:11 jessica Goodday!
11:14 jessica I've got a problem with the user access module
11:15 mar77i so you come here to look for help.
11:15 jessica Yes
11:15 jessica can you help me?
11:18 mar77i how should I know? could you specify what you mean with "having a problem with the uam?"
11:19 mar77i maybe it's a bug, maybe it's a feature, and let me tell you t3 is full of features ;-)
11:20 num000 sorry if someone answered to my question i had a power failure
11:20 jessica Welll
11:20 jessica I have added a user to the typo3 system (backend user)
11:20 jessica and I only want him to see the pagetree and that he can add content to it
11:20 jessica but he has the modified menu
11:20 jessica but I don't see the pagetree
11:21 num000 good question, i'm facing the same problem
11:21 jessica Can someone tell me what I'm doing wrong
11:21 jessica :) okay num000
11:21 umc me too... and I know I did a good user a while back, that worked :)
11:22 num000 i suppose you also did mount the DB points didn't you?
11:22 umc you have to check the access module I think... make sure it has the permissions...
11:22 umc check db mounts...
11:22 num000 also a question would be what happens if the groups has a different db mount point then the users db mount point
11:22 num000 umc i did check all possible mount points, all pages
11:23 mar77i there are two sides of the access rights of a backend user. one that restricts access for non-admin users and one that associates a user's access rights on module pages...
11:23 umc hm... I'm gonna try it again, see if I get something...
11:23 jessica I did mount the DB points
11:23 jessica I mounted the first in the page tree
11:24 num000 mar77i i did not enable the admin check since i thought the restricted user does not need to be a admin
11:24 num000 jessica i tried all points, root, several single pages, sysfolders
11:26 jessica Well... I have everything that is possible selected
11:26 num000 so then it must be something different
11:26 num000 you do see with your new user the modules but can't see the page tree don't you?
11:27 jessica Oke I just read that you have to create a group
11:27 num000 i also did a group
11:27 jessica Yes I can see the user modules but not the page tree
11:37 FloLeBlanc jessica: set the access rights
11:38 FloLeBlanc login as admin, click on the page node you want the user to see, select "access" from the lefthand menu and grant the user the rights to "edit", "delete", "create" however appropriate (you can assign the rights to groups there)
11:39 FloLeBlanc (this also applies to num000's problem I guess)
11:39 num000 FloLeBlanc, yes thank you, i'm going to play around with this now
11:40 num000 FloLeBlanc the owner, can still be the admin from that page? and the group should be the new one which the new user belongs to?
11:42 jessica Ow oke :) I will try that Flo Le Blanc
11:43 num000 yes it works
11:43 num000 thank you very much FloLeBlanc
11:43 num000 is it possible to allow one user to add news to tt_news categories?
11:46 mar77i @flo: thx, i'm not really into that. how can you modify a by-standard inserted IMGTEXT($conf[".maxW"])?
11:47 mar77i I mean "maxW". This doesn't come from the db, right?
11:47 FloLeBlanc num000: yw... you can set what the user can to explicitely over the group menu by checking "include access list"
11:48 FloLeBlanc mar77i: you can set the maxwidth of your content images via TS, but I'm not sure of the exact wording, use the template analyzer and search for "maxW" that should get you a result
11:48 mar77i -- generally?
11:48 FloLeBlanc ?
11:48 mar77i forgetit.
11:49 umc great... works for me to have a new user that sees the page tree :)
11:49 mar77i LOOOL! there it is. what the heck...
11:50 umc did you guys manage to fix it ?
11:50 num000 umc you need to modify permissions on that page at web->Access
11:51 num000 but still looking how to manage tt_news restrictions
11:53 FloLeBlanc num000: in a way that one user can only post in certain categories?
11:53 num000 yes
11:53 num000 FloLeBlanc exact
11:53 num000 thats what i'm looking for, maybe if possible he should also just see his own posts in his own category
11:54 FloLeBlanc num000: hmm.. the only way I can think of it ad hoc is create a sysfolder for every user and list the categories there :) could be problematic when multiple users have to post in the same category however
11:54 num000 no, only their own category
11:54 num000 how can i list categories in separate sysfolders?
11:55 FloLeBlanc then it should be no problem by just creating the categories in the specific sysfolders
11:55 FloLeBlanc (the admin will be able to post in all categories if you set the rootnode of the 2 sysfolders as startingpoint imho)
11:55 num000 your suggestion is to create for every category a sysfolder?
11:55 FloLeBlanc never tried it though just my best guess
11:55 FloLeBlanc never tried that out, I have 2 sysfolders for 2 ppl who can post news for that they can only see and edit their own posts
11:56 FloLeBlanc I have a main news folder which has 2 nodes (guy1 , guy2) where they can edit their own news
11:56 FloLeBlanc if you create the category "guy 1's category " in the sysfolder "guy1" guy 2 will not be able to use that category because he posts in sysfolder guy2 :)
11:57 FloLeBlanc (never tried the category thing though - this is just a rough guess)
11:57 num000 i see, but as far as i now the gategories are stored not in the news storage folder, they are stored in a separate sysfolder
11:58 FloLeBlanc num000: perhaps check the tsref for tt_news (manual) I'm pretty sure that there will be a TS similar to "allowed categories"
11:58 num000 ok thank you so far
11:58 FloLeBlanc then you'll be able to create a page ts for the sysfolder that states what cats the user is allowed to post in
11:59 FloLeBlanc again a guess though :)
11:59 FloLeBlanc you're welcome
11:59 num000 did you ever see typo3 with a online newspaper?
12:03 FloLeBlanc no none that I can think of but I guess there'll be a few out there
12:03 num000 do you think it would be a good joice?
12:04 tuxick if there's a working news plugin ;p
12:05 FloLeBlanc hmm... hard to say. I really like tt_news and directmail and how they interact with each other, however I would only choose T3 if I have the time to experience the features and get into it. t3 is very complicated in the beginning but very rewarding imho
12:05 num000 FloLeBlanc yes you are absolutely right. do you know of an alternative for a newspaper?
12:06 FloLeBlanc if you need a "quick success" you could use joomla or wordpress (I didn't try any of them though), but the expandability is limited in joomla afaik (as with oscommerce it gets very dirty pretty soon)
12:06 umc what would you guys say a good extension would be for displaying categorised products ? but I don't need a shop, just information... pictures, details, etc...
12:07 FloLeBlanc did you check tt_products?
12:07 FloLeBlanc I guess I'd go with a shop plugin and just make the items not buyable :)
12:07 num000 FloLeBlanc i would think joomla is not suitable for it. wordpress also limits and is more for blogging
12:08 FloLeBlanc num000: hmm I don't know of more tbh :)
12:08 FloLeBlanc i pretty enjoy t3
12:08 num000 me too ;(
12:08 num000 ;)
12:09 FloLeBlanc (allthough the RTE and TS handling still could be better)
12:10 FloLeBlanc without the #typo3 chan I may have given up though ;)
12:10 num000 ohhh yes, this is really a cool community
12:11 num000 there was a be extension which could handle permissions, which made it work easier. does someone know which one it was something like ACL
12:12 FloLeBlanc did you check the extension rep with a search for acl? :)
12:12 FloLeBlanc never heard of that though
12:13 num000 well it is called backend ACLs, but i'm not sure if this isn't obsolete
12:13 num000 meanwhile
12:15 delmonico hi
12:16 delmonico I set 'TCEMAIN.clearCacheCmd = all' for my 'news items' folder but this only works form admins. when my users edit or create news items they won't show up until the cache is claered..
12:16 delmonico what can I do to change this behaviour?
12:28 umc woo hoo... got a ups on our gentoo server :)
12:29 umc glad it's getting along with the software. typo3 is safe now :D
12:31 kv0s Hi!
12:31 kv0s I will start to extend some extensions for our needs ...
12:32 kv0s ... where i've to start?
12:32 kv0s It is possible to develop live? Or it is better to make some local installation on my harddisk, with a exact copy of my typo3-installation on my webserver?
12:32 kv0s Any tipps?
12:33 umc I do it locally...
12:33 kv0s Mhm.
12:34 kv0s Is there a "best-way" to get my complete page with all extensions locally running?!?
12:35 kv0s Or some other idea? With which IDE i can develop PHP live on my server (connected via ftp)?
12:42 umc make an rsync... that should copy everything... then when you're done changing, rsync back :)
12:42 kv0s umc:
12:42 kv0s Mhm.
12:42 kv0s It makes a copy of all. That's right. But i don't have a running system or?
12:48 kv0s Which IDE do u use for make php-development?
12:49 num000 FloLeBlanc how can i store a particular tt_news category in a separate sysfolder?
12:50 FloLeBlanc switch to the sysfolder, create - category ?
12:52 FloLeBlanc works fine for me :)
12:52 num000 ohh god
12:52 num000 sure
12:54 num000 FloLeBlanc one sysfolder for every group, right?
12:54 num000 but the news are still stored in the newsstorage folder
12:54 FloLeBlanc num000: I would rather do this userbased but if you have overlapping usergroups that would be a way to go I guess
12:55 FloLeBlanc I'd store the news in the folders too
12:55 FloLeBlanc then you could give guy A access to folder A, B and C and guy B access to folders B and C
12:55 num000 in those folders where the new user is?
12:55 num000 ok
12:57 FloLeBlanc num000: this is how I'd handle it: http://phpfi.com/277809
12:58 num000 FloLeBlanc thank you, i'll lookinto it now
12:59 FloLeBlanc as news startingpoint I'd use the "news folder" then (which has the subdirs) and check recursive, then you should be able to select all categories from all subfolders I guess
12:59 num000 yes i see, thats how i made it now
12:59 kv0s Mhm.
13:00 FloLeBlanc perhaps there is a better way but I wouldn't know one :)
13:00 kv0s Just installed locally wamp-typo3package ... at the extension manager i can not import extensions from the ter ...
13:00 kv0s Get only "no matching extensions found".
13:00 num000 FloLeBlanc no your suggestion is absolute correct, unfortunately i just lost the a page which was describing the same issue in a forum
13:00 kv0s Any ideas?
13:01 FloLeBlanc kv0s: this problem could be linked with your php.ini (fopen, etc.) try to download the t3x files and install them by "upload extension" (that's how I do it)
13:01 num000 FloLeBlanc the whole thing is with be users, is there a way this could be handled maybe easier with fe users?
13:02 FloLeBlanc num000 I can't think of one :)
13:02 FloLeBlanc but then again, I don't know all the tt_news config by heart hehe
13:02 num000 i see, now if i insert a news item in the selected sysfolder only the one category field is shown, this is good actualy
13:02 kv0s FloLeBlanc: Hmpf. Not really fine ... but ... i give it a try .. ,-)
13:03 FloLeBlanc kv0s: you can always check the php.ini for the problems :)
13:03 kv0s FloLeBlanc: I don't see any problems .. no errors .. :?
13:04 FloLeBlanc kv0s: I had the same issue, no error given but it was not possible to get any lists fromt he TER, I use a remote server so I went the "upload t3x" way after loosing half a day searching for the reason with my provider :)
13:06 FloLeBlanc kv0s: someone with more knowledge than me just arrived ;) *points to ries*
13:06 FloLeBlanc I'm only lvl 1 support *laughs*
13:06 kv0s running from one problem to the next ...
13:06 ries FloLeBlanc: hahahaha well, thatis not true... I don't do this 'stuff' to much anymore...
13:07 FloLeBlanc but it always takes you back to good old #typo3 :)
13:07 ries I think that Denyerec knows more about extensions and it's configuration then me...
13:07 kv0s ... starting with only extend a extension ... now i will try to install a development-environment ... arg ...
13:07 Denyerec HAHAHAHAHA
13:07 Denyerec Oh Ries cracks me up
13:08 Denyerec Though it depends which plugin you're on about
13:08 kv0s Ah.
13:08 kv0s Ok i'll start over ..
13:09 kv0s ... which way makes more sense ... develop on my live-server which runs with templates and all my extensions ... or try to "build" a exactly copy of it on my local machine and develop at these place...?
13:12 ries kv0s: copy the whole thing locally in most cases
13:13 kv0s Mhm.
13:14 kv0s Okay. So i must start to update my running page to the actually typo3-version, then locally to the wamp installation ... and then copy all file over the locals?
14:13 yang 09:30 < yang> I cannot get typo3 website displayed I followed the debian manual, here is the config
14:13 num000 where can i define in which sysfolder the categories of tt_news are stored
14:13 yang 09:30 < yang> http://openpaste.org/en/3994/
15:06 num000 how can i install a different backend language?
15:15 mar77i hey is there a way to display tt_news categories with typoscript?
15:16 mar77i this is making me so upset...
15:57 num000 mar77i what are you trying todo
15:59 hanoul Anybody knows how to achieve code re-use in TemplaVoila source files?
16:04 pmk65 hanoul: What do you want to reuse? the typoscript in your TV Data Structure
16:07 num000 hi pmk65
16:10 pmk65 hi num000
16:13 hanoul pmk65: I have many HTML source files for my TV templates. They all share the same top and bottom parts (top part containing the menu, bottom part containing the footer). I want to ba able to put these in 2 separate files and "include" them in each source HTML file. That way, changing them on all my templates will be easy.
16:17 pmk65 hanoul: you could create a HTML with: your header, pagetype1,pagetype2,pagetype3, your footer. And then when you map up the pagetype1 part, you map OUT the pagetype2 and pagetype3
16:18 pmk65 I personally only maps up the contentarea. The rest like header, footer and menus, I create using a regular TEMPLATE object, and just insert the TV contentpart.
16:20 hanoul So, you create your header and footer with regular TS templates, and create the content part with TV?
16:24 pmk65 hanoul: yes. Here's a copy of the main TS of one of my sites: http://phpfi.com/277853
16:24 pmk65 Line 35-52 defines a regular TEMPLATE object, and only the contentArea part is done using TV (line 46,47)
16:27 wacky_ How do I remove that horrible preview box on the top-left part of the page ?
16:27 wacky_ that flashes when I hover it with the mouse
16:29 pmk65 wacky_: Disable Frontend editing.
16:31 pmk65 It might be possible to turn it of using the EditPanel settings, but I haven't tried it myself (I never use FE editing) http://typo3.org/documentation/document-library/references/doc_core_tsref/4.1.0/view/8/28/
16:34 wacky_ but does this affect the admPanel ?
16:35 pmk65 wacky_: check this http://typo3.org/documentation/document-library/references/doc_core_tsconfig/4.1.0/view/1/2/#id3515732
16:36 hanoul Thanks pmk65: This will be a big change, but it is definitely worth considering.
16:36 pmk65 EditPanel = AdminPanel
16:39 wacky_ hmm..
17:26 JohKa hi everybody
17:28 JohKa http://phpfi.com/277871 <-- that is my TS for a vertical menu, now I need a special TS that I can add to the special-TS for one site that makes the linkcolor in the second level orange for example
17:29 JohKa the TS-config for one site should only change the linkcolor in the second level nothing mor
17:29 JohKa e
17:40 JohKa is here anybody who wants to help me? a typo3 newcomer^^
17:41 just2b dont ask to ask
17:41 JohKa I just posted my problem but nobody has answered me
17:41 just2b i dont get your question
17:41 just2b sry
17:41 JohKa ah ok
17:41 JohKa http://phpfi.com/277871 <-- that is my TS for a vertical menu, now I need a special TS that I can add to the special-TS for one site that makes the linkcolor in the second level orange for example
17:42 JohKa the TS-config for one site should only change the linkcolor in the second level nothing more
17:42 just2b i dont understand what you mean
17:43 JohKa ah ok I have the vertical menu, as you can see in the quote
17:44 JohKa now I want to have a TS that can I add to the special TS Configuration for one page, when you create a new site for the homepage you can add special TS Code
17:45 just2b create a ext template
17:46 JohKa can't I change the linkcolor in the TS Configuration for the site? do I need a special Config template?
17:50 dax77 hi guys :)
17:56 ries is this correct? NO.stdWrap = before | after
17:58 ries Aaahhh
17:58 ries needs to looks liek this _. NO.stdWrap.wrap = <b>|</b>
18:01 koomi aloha
19:24 maru hi, question about extenstion programming: I needed to install an extension and then to install the extension again with some very small changes to it. I changed the extension key and the DB-connectivity. there seem to be some problems though. anything else I have to consider?
19:25 maru If the modified extension is installed, and I want to "add a record" within joomla. no matter what kind of record I select, for example "new page", nothing happens the screen turns blank. if I uninstall the modified extension, everything is back to normal
19:29 maru is my question unclear maybe? :) or has no one got an answer
19:30 Phlogi maru: joomla?
19:30 maru oh, typo3 of course :)
19:30 maru hehe was just working with joola a few minutes ago
19:31 Phlogi if you want to create a copy of an extension you need to change some stuff in the php file too
19:31 maru yes, that's what I did
19:31 Phlogi you missed some things I guess
19:31 Phlogi and you need to change other parameters in other files too
19:32 maru I installed the original, changed the $extKey in the extension class, the connectivity to the DB-tables and installed the modified one
19:32 Phlogi hmm sometimes a lot of things are hardcoded
19:32 maru so everything looks ok now within the extension manager, but this strange error occurs when trying to add new records
19:34 maru yes. I am just wondering whether someone could tell me which stuff exactly of each extension gets registered within typo3? so maybe I forgot to change something that is still identical within both extensions now
19:38 maru hm ok - thanks for trying to help so far, Phlogi. If someone has got a comment, he/she is more than welcome :)
19:50 maru_ got disconnected - where there any new hints to my question?
20:12 socken23 Hi all! Is there like a "template" css I could use for styling forms?
20:13 socken23 The standard changes are more or less the same on each site...
21:26 maGe my front end has stopped displaying stuff
21:26 maGe wtf
21:26 maGe its only a white page
21:26 maGe when i look inside the source code.. it has only the typo header
21:27 maGe maybe this has something to do with automaketemplate
21:27 maGe the line in the ext manager is brown
21:27 maGe hm
21:28 maGe any help
21:46 IronM abend / evening
21:47 IronM could you recommend a good free typo3 tutorial? ... and some typo3 templates ?
21:48 IronM after few days reading I was a bit frustrated .. and didnot get NO usefull web-site ready :-(
21:48 IronM well .. NO = ANY
21:50 IronM anyway .. take care

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