| 00:04 |
uriahheep |
voidus: http://pastebin.ca/734656 |
| 00:04 |
uriahheep |
voidus: that's what i have so far, but it isn't working... |
| 00:04 |
voidus |
usual mistake |
| 00:04 |
voidus |
there is no variables in typoscript |
| 00:08 |
uriahheep |
voidus: umm, what do you mean/ |
| 00:08 |
voidus |
{$temp.button_width} is illegal |
| 00:09 |
voidus |
hm.. *incorrect |
| 00:10 |
uriahheep |
hmm, k |
| 00:10 |
uriahheep |
voidus: but what would be the proper way of using .prioriCalc in this case? |
| 00:11 |
voidus |
not sure, but try: http://pastebin.ca/734669 |
| 00:33 |
voidus |
uriahheep: did you saw a link before netsplit |
| 00:33 |
voidus |
? |
| 00:33 |
voidus |
*s/saw/see |
| 00:38 |
uriahheep |
voidus: nope |
| 00:39 |
voidus |
uriahheep: <voidus> not sure, but try: http://pastebin.ca/734669 |
| 00:39 |
uriahheep |
oh, that |
| 00:39 |
uriahheep |
yeah, i saw it, and replied |
| 00:39 |
uriahheep |
18:11 uriahheep : voidus: nah, that ignores the +8 |
| 00:39 |
uriahheep |
;) |
| 00:39 |
voidus |
heh.. severe netsplit |
| 00:39 |
uriahheep |
:) |
| 00:40 |
voidus |
one day i solved some problem with uschi... |
| 00:40 |
voidus |
*s/some/such |
| 00:42 |
uriahheep |
hmm... but you can't remember it? |
| 00:44 |
voidus |
no |
| 00:44 |
voidus |
i never used prioriCalc :) |
| 00:45 |
voidus |
what if we say lib.button_width.prioriCalc = + 8 |
| 00:45 |
voidus |
without | |
| 00:50 |
uriahheep |
hmm, i'll try |
| 00:51 |
uriahheep |
voidus: no dice |
| 01:00 |
ries |
anybody have experience with sqlite? |
| 01:01 |
uriahheep |
...there must be some other way of adding things.... |
| 01:02 |
voidus |
uriahheep: no. this way should work.. |
| 01:02 |
voidus |
ries: a bit |
| 01:02 |
uriahheep |
:( |
| 01:05 |
ries |
voidus: I get a lot of errors that tables are locked |
| 01:08 |
ries |
voidus: General error: 6 database table is locked in |
| 01:08 |
voidus |
hm.. |
| 01:09 |
voidus |
maybe another user used same db? |
| 01:09 |
ries |
voidus: Not really... |
| 01:09 |
ries |
I am wondering if ree resource is not called after a select, if that could messup anything |
| 01:12 |
ries |
voidus: Yeaaa I know what's going on |
| 01:12 |
ries |
if you select data from a table, but don't freeup it's resource, then you get that error |
| 01:12 |
ries |
trying to run TYPO3 of sqlite2 :D |
| 01:12 |
voidus |
ries: you're mad! |
| 01:13 |
voidus |
poor sqllite :) |
| 01:13 |
ries |
voidus: hehehehe... core typo3 now works with postgreSQL for 95%... Oracle is on it's way |
| 01:13 |
ries |
sqlite is just for fun |
| 01:13 |
voidus |
hm.. but.. |
| 01:14 |
voidus |
i think with sqlite you can run typo3 from cd, maybe |
| 01:14 |
ries |
yeaaa... it's more for a fun project then anything else |
| 01:15 |
voidus |
so... no DBAL? |
| 01:15 |
voidus |
only pure implementations? |
| 01:15 |
ries |
voidus: using my own concept.... as a proof of concept |
| 01:16 |
voidus |
do you tranlate mysql-specific calls to right postgres/oracle? |
| 01:17 |
voidus |
*translate |
| 01:23 |
Denyerec |
Is anyone here any good with Indexed Search ? |
| 01:23 |
Denyerec |
Because it has just about cunted me off to my sleepless limits right now. |
| 01:23 |
Denyerec |
it's pulling peices of template out of its big shitty arse |
| 01:25 |
Denyerec |
The fact there is NO SODDING MANUAL doesn't help |
| 01:27 |
Denyerec |
The docs are a hopeless waste of effort |
| 01:27 |
Denyerec |
No detail whatsoever on how to make it not look like a compete pile of shit. |
| 01:30 |
Denyerec |
There isn't even anything in the sodding template analyser |
| 01:38 |
voidus |
yeah, i agree |
| 01:38 |
Denyerec |
Do you know where I could even find a list of markers ? |
| 01:38 |
Denyerec |
Half the ones in the default template do not work. |
| 01:38 |
Denyerec |
###RESULT_NUMBER### for example |
| 01:38 |
voidus |
dunno, really |
| 01:39 |
Denyerec |
It's pathetic |
| 01:39 |
Denyerec |
It really is |
| 01:39 |
Denyerec |
I mean I am sure the indexing logic is great |
| 01:39 |
voidus |
i am afraid of idexed_search |
| 01:39 |
Denyerec |
But the presentation side of the thing is just pathetic. |
| 01:39 |
Denyerec |
compared to tt_news, there is no comparison |
| 01:39 |
Denyerec |
tt_news has working default templates, and a decent manual |
| 01:57 |
uriahheep |
hmmm.... |
| 01:58 |
Denyerec |
I have smacked its face in with some CSS |
| 01:59 |
Denyerec |
Meh |
| 02:25 |
uriahheep |
voidus: god damnit i got it! finally haha! |
| 02:25 |
voidus |
uriahheep: how? |
| 02:25 |
uriahheep |
http://www.pastebin.ca/734791 |
| 02:28 |
voidus |
yeah.. |
| 02:28 |
voidus |
simple, right? |
| 02:28 |
uriahheep |
indeed. |
| 02:28 |
uriahheep |
ridiculous... |
| 02:28 |
uriahheep |
haha |
| 02:28 |
uriahheep |
oh well, at least now we both know how |
| 02:32 |
uriahheep |
anyway, time to go drink now :D |
| 02:32 |
uriahheep |
later |
| 02:32 |
voidus |
good night |
| 02:32 |
uriahheep |
thanks, you too :) |
| 02:32 |
Denyerec |
what was uriahheep trying to do ? |
| 02:32 |
voidus |
thanks :) |
| 02:32 |
uriahheep |
heh, and thanks for your patience :P |
| 02:33 |
uriahheep |
Denyerec: trying to set the width of a div to the width of an image inside it + 8px |
| 02:33 |
uriahheep |
anyway, later :P |
| 02:33 |
Denyerec |
Interesting |
| 02:37 |
Denyerec |
voidus ? |
| 02:38 |
voidus |
Denyerec: what? |
| 02:38 |
Denyerec |
I'm usually up late because, well, I do stupid things and accept work from people who need things last-minute :) |
| 02:38 |
Denyerec |
What's your excuse? |
| 02:38 |
Denyerec |
You seem to be practically nocturnal. |
| 02:40 |
voidus |
Denyerec: hm... i just love night. nobody disturb... silence.. |
| 02:41 |
voidus |
sometimes i really don't sleep cause things are urgent, but it's not so often |
| 02:42 |
Denyerec |
I share your love of the night. |
| 02:42 |
Denyerec |
Even though I am alone during the day |
| 02:42 |
Denyerec |
the world seems noisier. |
| 02:43 |
Denyerec |
do you work from home |
| 02:43 |
Denyerec |
? |
| 02:43 |
voidus |
Denyerec: yes |
| 02:43 |
Denyerec |
likewise :D |
| 02:44 |
Denyerec |
makes getting up at 11am easier than with a normal job :D |
| 02:44 |
voidus |
no typo3 studios in my city... |
| 02:46 |
voidus |
what i don't like in such life - when i get up, it's evening already |
| 02:46 |
Denyerec |
true |
| 02:46 |
Denyerec |
in winter, you miss a LOT of sunshine |
| 02:47 |
voidus |
yeah.. |
| 02:47 |
Denyerec |
especially if you are more northern |
| 02:47 |
Denyerec |
which I think you are, compared to where I am |
| 02:47 |
voidus |
in GB you don't have a lot of show, right? |
| 02:48 |
voidus |
*snow |
| 02:49 |
voidus |
Denyerec: i think, i live southern |
| 02:49 |
voidus |
than you |
| 02:49 |
Denyerec |
Hardly any snow, no |
| 02:49 |
Denyerec |
thanks to the "warm" atlantic currents |
| 02:50 |
voidus |
what is your latitude? |
| 02:50 |
Denyerec |
I am at 53° north |
| 02:50 |
voidus |
hehe.. me too :) |
| 02:50 |
Denyerec |
Hah, for real? |
| 02:51 |
Denyerec |
we get the same amount of light, then :) |
| 02:51 |
Denyerec |
But you will get more snow, I think, because of the landmass. |
| 02:52 |
voidus |
no.. i have more cold because of landmass... snow is just a consequense |
| 02:53 |
voidus |
but last winter was very warm... nobody remember such warm winter |
| 02:53 |
voidus |
0 Celcius at new year... unreal |
| 02:53 |
Denyerec |
Haha |
| 02:53 |
Denyerec |
Does it get down as low as -30 sometimes? |
| 02:53 |
voidus |
yeah... the winter before last was very cold :) |
| 02:54 |
voidus |
i went to pass my exam at -30 |
| 02:55 |
Denyerec |
damn |
| 02:55 |
Denyerec |
I don't own a coat |
| 02:55 |
Denyerec |
just a green army shirt and a hat. |
| 02:55 |
Denyerec |
England never gets cold enough to need a coat |
| 02:55 |
Denyerec |
-2 or -3 perhaps |
| 02:55 |
Denyerec |
never much colder |
| 02:56 |
Denyerec |
I walked back from a night out with friends once when it was -7 |
| 02:56 |
Denyerec |
That was pretty cold. |
| 02:56 |
Denyerec |
One of my friends collapsed with hypothermia and he was wearing more than me... |
| 02:56 |
voidus |
it's +5 here now. and really cold, cause heating is not switched on.. |
| 02:56 |
Denyerec |
He had been drinking, though, which is bad for you in the cold weather. (I don't drink so was OK) |
| 02:58 |
voidus |
yes, you're right... |
| 02:58 |
voidus |
any winter here some drunk people freeze to dead |
| 02:59 |
voidus |
except last winter, maybe |
| 03:05 |
Denyerec |
*Freeze to death |
| 03:06 |
voidus |
yeah.. but english is bad.. |
| 03:06 |
Denyerec |
I am sure if I tried to speak Russian, you would help me :) |
| 03:07 |
voidus |
i can't imagine case when you will need it :) |
| 03:07 |
Denyerec |
I notice that a lot of east European languages, well, Polish, Slovakian and Russian it seems, don't use "a" much |
| 03:07 |
Denyerec |
In english you would say "I can't imagine a case when you would need it" |
| 03:08 |
Denyerec |
but that little annoying 'a' doesn't feature much for you guys |
| 03:08 |
voidus |
sorry... it's because we don't have articles in russian.. |
| 03:08 |
Denyerec |
same for polish I think |
| 03:08 |
voidus |
maybe.. |
| 03:08 |
Denyerec |
makes it really easy to spot the guys who are new to the UK, even if their accent is perfec |
| 03:09 |
Denyerec |
t |
| 03:09 |
Denyerec |
Do you think Russian is easier than English ? |
| 03:09 |
Denyerec |
thinking of it like a programming language. |
| 03:09 |
Denyerec |
rather than simply because you have grown up with it ? |
| 03:10 |
voidus |
no.. russian is not very simple... |
| 03:10 |
voidus |
we have a lot of rules... |
| 03:10 |
Denyerec |
I don't know the english rules, so I am in no position to comment :( |
| 03:10 |
voidus |
imagine.. |
| 03:12 |
voidus |
"He kicks ball". "She kicks ball" |
| 03:12 |
voidus |
"kicks" is the same |
| 03:12 |
voidus |
in russian it's different |
| 03:12 |
voidus |
but what is really more simple in russian: we have only 3 times. present, past and future. |
| 03:12 |
voidus |
not 12 like in english |
| 03:14 |
voidus |
and I know English can't understand when we say "I went yesterday on the street and _see_" :) |
| 03:16 |
Denyerec |
Hah |
| 03:16 |
Denyerec |
Well, I think the past form of "see" is "saw" |
| 03:16 |
Denyerec |
So you must have a past form of the verb, no ? |
| 03:16 |
voidus |
yes.. in english |
| 03:17 |
Denyerec |
"more simple" == "simpler" |
| 03:18 |
voidus |
hm.. i think, if you will correct me more often, i'll pass English exam :) |
| 03:20 |
Denyerec |
"I think, if you would correct me more often, I'll pass my English exam" |
| 03:20 |
Denyerec |
Which is probably *terrible* enlgish if you try and follow the rules, I have no idea! |
| 03:21 |
Denyerec |
I just go with what sounds right |
| 03:21 |
Denyerec |
I never know whether to correct people or not. |
| 03:22 |
Denyerec |
SOmetimes people get annoyed, other times they like it. |
| 03:22 |
voidus |
hello, ChanServ |
| 03:22 |
Denyerec |
A friend of mine, a cute lil' polish girl, loves me going round to their house as I am always correcting her |
| 03:22 |
Denyerec |
And her housemates have long stopped doing so. |
| 03:23 |
voidus |
ok.. correct me if you see that i am wrong, please |
| 03:23 |
Denyerec |
sure thing |
| 03:23 |
Denyerec |
If you can do the same for my Typoscript, we should make good progress :D |
| 03:24 |
voidus |
i am not sure that even Casper knows Typoscript perfectly |
| 03:26 |
Denyerec |
I think he passed out just before finishing the Indexed Search manual... |
| 03:26 |
Denyerec |
>:| |
| 03:26 |
voidus |
Denyerec: btw, i think you saw podcasts... |
| 03:26 |
voidus |
and there is a podcast about indexed_search |
| 03:27 |
Denyerec |
Doesn't cover the templating too well :( |
| 03:27 |
voidus |
what is qualify of Casper's English? |
| 03:27 |
voidus |
*quality |
| 03:27 |
Denyerec |
I think what I shall do, is when I have some time, study the setup.ts for ISearch and write a fully comprehensive documented template |
| 03:27 |
Denyerec |
and release it to TER |
| 03:27 |
Denyerec |
Um, he has a heavy accent, and you can tell he is not a native speaker, but he is easy enough to understand. |
| 03:28 |
Denyerec |
In short... much better than my Danish! |
| 03:28 |
voidus |
i saw last keynote.. and can't understand anything |
| 03:29 |
Denyerec |
Mmm |
| 03:29 |
Denyerec |
Maybe it is easier for me to interpret because I am a native speaker |
| 03:29 |
voidus |
sometimes he is too fast |
| 03:30 |
Denyerec |
I have a lot of foreign friends too, and spend a lot of time on Teamspeak with people with bad microphones, so I am used to interpreting not-so-good english |
| 03:30 |
Denyerec |
Went to a wedding recently where there was a Jamaican entertainer... I thought he was superb and incredibly funny, yet my GF could not understand what he was saying! |
| 03:32 |
voidus |
heh.. |
| 04:18 |
Denyerec |
http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Faudioblog.fr%2Farchives%2F2007%2F10%2F02%2Fadobe-dave-story-future%2F&langpair=fr%7Cen&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&prev=%2Flanguage_tools |
| 04:22 |
Denyerec |
voidus - you ever done any ruby ? |
| 06:03 |
ries |
voidus: TYPO3 works in SqLite now :D |
| 09:39 |
uriahheep |
voidus: i like alcohol on a friday night. :) |
| 09:39 |
uriahheep |
anyway |
| 09:39 |
uriahheep |
sleep time. |
| 09:39 |
uriahheep |
goodnight :P |
| 10:59 |
dokma |
hi guys |
| 10:59 |
dokma |
do you guys know where is the testsite mentioned here: "Please refer to the testsite application which has a large section with test-examples for a LOT of applications/configurations of the xMENU_LAYERS!" |
| 11:22 |
flo |
hiho |
| 11:38 |
aho |
how can i get the title of the act link in a menu (entryLevel 0)? (i need it for the secondary menu) |
| 11:50 |
d|g |
hi all |
| 11:56 |
dokma |
aho you can create another menu with a single item in it |
| 11:56 |
dokma |
and select -1 from the page path |
| 11:56 |
dokma |
then just glue stuff together with a COA |
| 12:00 |
dokma |
where is this syntax explained: XY = [10.w]+10, 14 ??? |
| 12:07 |
aho |
ye, my sis also suggested a single item menu |
| 12:07 |
aho |
dunno how to get rid of the NO items tho |
| 12:07 |
aho |
i could hide em via css, but that would be silly :> |
| 12:09 |
aho |
with NO = 0 the ACT stuff doesn't show up... mmh |
| 12:20 |
d|g |
aho, i have same problem now =) |
| 12:22 |
aho |
well, if i don't manage to solve it in 5 minutes i'll hack it away with css :f |
| 12:22 |
aho |
*within |
| 12:23 |
aho |
it appears to be pretty un-google-able |
| 12:25 |
d|g |
aho, my hack is: |
| 12:25 |
d|g |
1 = TMENU |
| 12:25 |
d|g |
1.NO.allWrap = <div style="display: none"> | </div> |
| 12:25 |
d|g |
=) |
| 12:26 |
aho |
wow... that's like... extra ugly :) |
| 12:26 |
aho |
mine is doNotLinkIt=1 + display:none for a elements |
| 12:34 |
d|g |
aho, it is very extra ugly :) |
| 12:39 |
aho |
d|g, doNotShowLink = 1 |
| 12:39 |
aho |
! :D |
| 12:39 |
aho |
found it here: http://typo3.org/documentation/document-library/references/doc_core_tsref/4.1.0/view/10/8/ |
| 12:39 |
Phlogi_ |
how can I tell mm_forum to not include the css file on all pages? |
| 12:47 |
d|g |
aho very big thanks =) |
| 12:48 |
aho |
that kind of thing would be oh so easy, if it were some real language with like... fancy stuff such as error messages :> |
| 13:58 |
Phlogi_ |
anyone tried out: Frontend Filemanager? |
| 14:02 |
dokma |
Phlogi |
| 14:03 |
dokma |
there is a static template that you included as much as I recall |
| 14:03 |
dokma |
you need to delete it |
| 14:04 |
Phlogi_ |
dokma: you mean about the mm_forum? |
| 14:05 |
dokma |
yeah, but I just checked and there is no template for css styles |
| 14:05 |
Phlogi_ |
and then I don't loose the whole template stuff? just the css thing or what else? |
| 14:05 |
Phlogi_ |
hmm its strange its just included somehow... |
| 14:05 |
Phlogi_ |
and that on every page!! |
| 14:05 |
Phlogi_ |
IMHO thats quite bad because I have the forum in a private area only.... |
| 14:05 |
dokma |
then it might be that old trick something like: plugin.mm_forum._CSS_SOMETHING > |
| 14:06 |
Phlogi_ |
dokma: right, I'm gonna try |
| 14:07 |
Phlogi_ |
hmm it did not help. The thing that it includes the template from my own design set, you know? |
| 14:10 |
Phlogi_ |
ah I found it with the object browser ;) |
| 14:11 |
Phlogi_ |
its page.includeCSS.mm_forum = ;) |
| 14:15 |
Phlogi_ |
thanks dokma ^^ |
| 14:22 |
dokma |
good one |
| 14:23 |
dokma |
I always remember object browser last |
| 14:23 |
dokma |
and it usually helps the most |
| 14:39 |
dokma |
Phlogi_: you ever built dynamic menus with TMENU_LAYERS ? |
| 14:42 |
_webslave_ |
hi everyone |
| 14:49 |
ries |
voidus: ping..... |
| 14:49 |
ries |
voidus: it works with sqlite3 now :) |
| 14:49 |
voidus |
fuckin windows |
| 14:49 |
dokma |
guys, anyone had an issue of TMENU_LAYERS popup not disappearing on mouseover? |
| 14:50 |
voidus |
ries: yes, did read the log :) |
| 14:50 |
ries |
hehehe it was fun... there a bug in teh PDO driver, but that is solved now |
| 14:50 |
voidus |
dokma: as i know, nobody here used TMENU_LAYERS |
| 14:50 |
dokma |
yeah? |
| 14:50 |
dokma |
what do people generally use? |
| 14:51 |
voidus |
dokma: TMENU/GMENU + right CSS/JS |
| 14:51 |
ries |
dokma: they use an un-ordered list with some simple javascript |
| 14:51 |
dokma |
are you guys trying to tell me TMENU_LAYERS is not recomended? |
| 14:52 |
ries |
dokma: yes |
| 14:52 |
dokma |
hmmm, because it does work for me for now |
| 14:53 |
dokma |
I guess I would have to build the menu from ground up |
| 14:53 |
dokma |
with nested lists |
| 14:53 |
dokma |
and js |
| 14:53 |
ries |
dokma: On my homepage I have a sample... even voidus added some code to it |
| 14:53 |
dokma |
let me see |
| 14:56 |
voidus |
dokma: http://www.rvantwisk.nl/typo3-snippets/yacbddm-yet-another-css-based-drop-down-menu-for-typo3.html |
| 14:56 |
ries |
yes |
| 14:56 |
dokma |
tx |
| 15:05 |
ries |
voidus: 6req/sec over 25 concurrent threads with SQLite3 |
| 15:06 |
dokma |
sweet and simple |
| 15:06 |
dokma |
how compatible it is? |
| 15:08 |
ries |
I get 8 req/sec with 2 concurent users... |
| 15:08 |
voidus |
no so bad, i think |
| 15:08 |
ries |
dokma: it's just core that runs right now.... installation of extensions that add fields/tables is not yet supported |
| 15:09 |
ries |
where can I paste images? |
| 15:09 |
voidus |
is it supported in postgre? |
| 15:09 |
voidus |
ries: imageshack.us |
| 15:09 |
dokma |
ries: I was commenting on the menu |
| 15:10 |
ries |
dokma: Ahhh ok... it's fairly compatible |
| 15:10 |
dokma |
didn't catch what you two are talking about |
| 15:10 |
dokma |
you doing a cms of your own? |
| 15:10 |
voidus |
dokma: afaik, that was not very good in opera. anyway, it's only example |
| 15:10 |
dokma |
I see |
| 15:11 |
voidus |
just find any good html/css/js and cross-browser menu.. |
| 15:11 |
dokma |
ries: you've got a typo on your site |
| 15:11 |
dokma |
Ries van Twisk |
| 15:12 |
dokma |
TYPO3 Concultancy |
| 15:12 |
ries |
I properly have many :( |
| 15:12 |
dokma |
kill them one by one :) |
| 15:12 |
dokma |
no other way |
| 15:12 |
ries |
dokma: I am trying to run TYPO3 of different database backends |
| 15:12 |
dokma |
ahhh, I see |
| 15:12 |
dokma |
SQLite |
| 15:12 |
ries |
currently we have some support for SQLite |
| 15:12 |
dokma |
? |
| 15:13 |
ries |
PostgreSQL works 95% |
| 15:13 |
ries |
And oracle is in the make... |
| 15:13 |
dokma |
what are the benefits/drawbacks |
| 15:13 |
ries |
I might want to do a firebird aswell |
| 15:13 |
ries |
dokma: Benefit is for companies that don't know/have MySQL can run TYPO3 on there favorite RDBM |
| 15:14 |
ries |
Some databases are also far better in scaling and clustering, and so you want to use that over MySQL |
| 15:14 |
dokma |
I thgouht MySQL was ubiquitos |
| 15:14 |
dokma |
;) |
| 15:14 |
ries |
me for example, I don't know shit about MySQL (not 100% true) but rather would like to run PoistgreSQL |
| 15:14 |
dokma |
I started some pg |
| 15:14 |
ries |
quite a number of goverments and large companies rather would like to run Oracle or PostgreSQL |
| 15:14 |
dokma |
I liked it but didn't have time to get it to the level I got with mysql |
| 15:14 |
ries |
They still see MySQL as a toy database |
| 15:15 |
ries |
voidus: http://img186.imageshack.us/my.php?image=74251348lb2.jpg |
| 15:15 |
dokma |
well majority of goverments and large companies don't really need what pg brings over mysql |
| 15:15 |
dokma |
or oracle |
| 15:16 |
dokma |
as much as I can tell in majority of cases it's just puffing up |
| 15:16 |
dokma |
"We use ORACLE" |
| 15:16 |
dokma |
"We are BIG" |
| 15:16 |
dokma |
and such stuff |
| 15:16 |
ries |
dokma: for us we need to maintain a other database next to PG which is problamatic, costs resources needs to be backed up etc.... |
| 15:16 |
ries |
that's why I am doing it... |
| 15:16 |
ries |
SQLite3 was just a evening fun... |
| 15:17 |
voidus |
ries: did you use GiST in postgre? |
| 15:17 |
dokma |
yeah 2 rdbms are not for the faint of heart |
| 15:18 |
ries |
voidus: I did.... |
| 15:18 |
ries |
voidus: I think I have lik 30GB of world data... strm, landlines and that stuff |
| 15:19 |
ries |
I put the land lines into PG with mapserver |
| 15:19 |
voidus |
ries: wow |
| 15:19 |
voidus |
cool |
| 15:19 |
voidus |
i just plan to use GiST for trees... |
| 15:20 |
voidus |
comment, etc |
| 15:20 |
voidus |
*comments |
| 15:20 |
ries |
voidus: I put this in PG : http://img186.imageshack.us/my.php?image=74251348lb2.jpg |
| 15:20 |
ries |
Not that |
| 15:20 |
ries |
http://www.mapability.com/index1.html?http&&&www.mapability.com/info/vmap0_download.html |
| 15:20 |
ries |
all 4 downloads |
| 15:21 |
ries |
voidus: like in page trees? |
| 15:22 |
voidus |
ries: yes, like pages, but i think "page tree" is outdated concept.. page tree is just an special case of category tree |
| 15:25 |
ries |
voidus: agreed... |
| 15:25 |
ries |
voidus: for just page trees you can use calco's adjencency list model |
| 15:26 |
ries |
voidus: But it doesn't solve shortcuts.... |
| 15:26 |
ries |
voi have an idea how to implement shortcuts in a database? |
| 15:27 |
voidus |
that's what about i am thinking for last week |
| 15:28 |
voidus |
ries: what is "calco's adjencency list model"? |
| 15:28 |
voidus |
i don't know such term |
| 15:28 |
ries |
let me look it up... |
| 15:28 |
ries |
voi sorry I was misting... |
| 15:29 |
ries |
Celko's nested set model :) |
| 15:31 |
voidus |
very interesting, how 5.0 devs will solve this problem |
| 15:31 |
ries |
http://www.intelligententerprise.com/001020/celko.jhtml?_requestid=235427 |
| 15:31 |
ries |
voidus: They don't solve it in the SQL way I think |
| 15:32 |
voidus |
ries: did you read https://5-0.dev.typo3.org/trac/TYPO3/wiki/TYPO3CRPerformance ? |
| 15:32 |
ries |
Nope... I don't think so at least |
| 15:33 |
just2b |
anyone here? ;) |
| 15:33 |
voidus |
if i understand this article rightly, 5.0 devs will solve this problem *in sql way* |
| 15:33 |
voidus |
just2b: 48 humans and 2 bots here |
| 15:33 |
just2b |
voidus.. every wantet a validator for the standard forms? |
| 15:33 |
just2b |
lol |
| 15:34 |
voidus |
just2b: hm.. doesn't std. forms have a validator? |
| 15:35 |
ries |
voidus: apparently they are planning to use a nested set model... only they name it differently |
| 15:35 |
voidus |
yes. |
| 15:36 |
ries |
I hope they make appropriate use of stored procedures and triggers... |
| 15:36 |
voidus |
and if they want to keep shortcuts in 5.0, they should solve shortcut problem |
| 15:36 |
ries |
they also need to find a method to biggyback SQL queries... |
| 15:37 |
voidus |
biggyback? |
| 15:37 |
ries |
voidus: what is your idea with a GIST index? |
| 15:37 |
ries |
voidus: to retreive more data in one SQL |
| 15:38 |
just2b |
voidus,.. validate for emails, urls, minimum lenght and so on |
| 15:38 |
voidus |
ries: GiST is just an good implementation of nested sets in postgre. i need it for my non-typo3 project |
| 15:38 |
voidus |
just2b: hm.. and? do you have a solution? |
| 15:39 |
ries |
voidus: It's a bit more than that... But helps a lot with spatial type of data |
| 15:39 |
voidus |
just2b: afaik something similar was planned in 4.2 |
| 15:40 |
voidus |
ries: maybe. you should excuse me, i knew about GiST 2 days ago :) |
| 15:40 |
ries |
voidus: what are you trying to solve? |
| 15:41 |
voidus |
ries: i want to handle big tree structures in one sql query |
| 15:42 |
ries |
voidus: to retreive rootlines? or for example to treive all nodes close to a other node (like find all restaurants close to a hotel) |
| 15:42 |
just2b |
voidus yes i do ;) |
| 15:42 |
just2b |
http://www.rggooglemap.com/dev/rgformvalidator.html?no_cache=1 |
| 15:46 |
voidus |
ries: maybe first, maybe both.. project is on very early state now |
| 15:46 |
voidus |
just2b: what it is based on? does it work without flash and js? |
| 15:48 |
just2b |
voidus of course not, mootools |
| 15:50 |
voidus |
just2b: hm.. will you release that as an extension? |
| 15:54 |
just2b |
sure, next week |
| 15:54 |
just2b |
you can use it for your own forms too |
| 15:58 |
voidus |
cool |
| 15:59 |
just2b |
yeah.. just need to write a manual for it ;) |
| 16:00 |
just2b |
btw voidus.. it is multilingual by default ;) |
| 16:10 |
aho |
is there something like shortcut, but w/o duplicated content? |
| 16:11 |
aho |
mount point? :> |
| 16:15 |
aho |
http://bugs.typo3.org/view.php?id=1692 |
| 16:15 |
aho |
mh... ok :f |
| 16:20 |
TomDeal |
someone here who uses templavoila? i need a hint how i can do a FCE where the header fields are h2, not h1 :-) |
| 16:26 |
ries |
TomDeal: just make a FCE with a h2 and map that? |
| 16:28 |
TomDeal |
ries, that would be a solution, but i mapped the content of the fce as Content Elements, so that the writers can use every normal content lement they need. and if they use a header, it should be a h2. perhaps i have to dott_content.stdheader or something, thats the problem |
| 16:29 |
ries |
I think so yes... |
| 16:29 |
ries |
you can also get that header and map it with TS back into your FCE |
| 16:31 |
TomDeal |
hm.. difficult to think on weekends, perhaps i should think about that problem on monday ;) |
| 16:47 |
tet |
Hi guys! need help here.. ;) |
| 16:48 |
tet |
newbie! just manage to install typo3 yesterday. |
| 16:49 |
voidus_ |
tet: ask your questions |
| 16:50 |
tet |
I can now go to the main page. But when I click on the links like 'about us' or 'community' menu, I get page not found(404 not found). Any idea what went wrong? |
| 16:50 |
voidus_ |
tet: can you give a link? |
| 16:52 |
tet |
it is on my localhost. |
| 16:53 |
voidus_ |
isn't your localhost have an ip? :) |
| 16:53 |
tet |
when I point to 'about us' , I get "http://localhost/wec/about_us/ |
| 16:54 |
tet |
when I click on it I get 404 not found... |
| 16:57 |
voidus_ |
do you have mod rewrite enabled? |
| 16:57 |
tet |
if I am to login using admin, then modify the 'about us' page, then 'save and display' I can see it being display, at the address bar I see "http://localhost/wec/index.php?id=38" |
| 16:58 |
tet |
what do you mean mod rewrite enabled? |
| 16:59 |
voidus_ |
tet: look at your webroot |
| 17:00 |
voidus_ |
and find _.htaccess file |
| 17:00 |
voidus_ |
and rename it to .htaccess |
| 17:06 |
tet |
tried it, it is under //localhost/wec/ rename it but still wouldn't work... |
| 17:24 |
tet |
how to enable mod_rewrite? |
| 17:33 |
ries |
tet: ask the apache group |
| 17:33 |
ries |
normally it would be enabled... |
| 17:36 |
tet |
ok! will try that. |
| 17:36 |
tet |
thanks guys! |
| 18:46 |
dokma |
guys you got any clue how to cut down tt_news uris from www.domain.com/news/article/title.html to www.domain.com/title.html |
| 18:51 |
ries |
dokma: you can try cooluri, cooluri makes it simple to remove paths |
| 18:51 |
ries |
but I did notice cooluri is also buggy in some areas |
| 18:52 |
dokma |
hmmm, sounds tempting |
| 18:52 |
dokma |
I'm still in development and I have a great debugger |
| 18:52 |
dokma |
so I thing I will give it a go |
| 18:52 |
dokma |
how hard is it to employ it? |
| 18:52 |
ries |
The problem I had it to put 'non DB' title in URI's |
| 18:53 |
ries |
dokma: it's fairly easy to deploy |
| 18:53 |
ries |
Just as easy as RealURL I think |
| 18:53 |
dokma |
I see, then I will check it out still today |
| 18:53 |
ries |
Just make sure you can garantee that title.html will only appear once in your DB (whole DB) |
| 18:53 |
dokma |
but one more issue |
| 18:53 |
dokma |
oh, I see |
| 18:53 |
dokma |
for now I can |
| 18:53 |
dokma |
what I want, naturally |
| 18:54 |
dokma |
is to keep my old links working |
| 18:54 |
dokma |
how hard is that? |
| 18:54 |
dokma |
do I have to rewrite them with .htaccess ? |
| 18:56 |
ries |
dokma: what debugger do you use? |
| 18:56 |
dokma |
dbg from phpeclipse |
| 18:56 |
ries |
dokma: I would make redirects in .htaccess |
| 18:56 |
dokma |
yeah, me too |
| 18:56 |
ries |
dokma: is that xdebug? |
| 18:57 |
dokma |
no |
| 18:57 |
ries |
dbg from zend? |
| 18:57 |
dokma |
I was thinking of trying out xdebug |
| 18:57 |
dokma |
http://dd.cron.ru/dbg/ |
| 18:58 |
ries |
dokma: symlinks are not resolved correctly with xdebug |
| 19:00 |
voidus_ |
dokma: do you think phpeclipse is better than PDT? |
| 19:00 |
dokma |
pdt ? |
| 19:01 |
ries |
voidus_: Just was about to ask.. did you try PDT already? |
| 19:01 |
dokma |
ahh I see |
| 19:01 |
dokma |
have not tried pdt |
| 19:01 |
dokma |
didn't notice it until recently |
| 19:01 |
voidus_ |
ries: i tried, but did not try to set up debugger yet |
| 19:01 |
dokma |
but still didn't take it seriously |
| 19:02 |
ries |
last time I tried PDT wasa looooong time agi, I didn't like it.. it was slow and buggy |
| 19:02 |
voidus_ |
ries: cause i just set up my local linux server.. |
| 19:02 |
ries |
voidus_: is it PDT or phpeclipse for you? |
| 19:03 |
voidus_ |
ries: i will make some test in the nearest days. |
| 19:03 |
voidus_ |
and i think i'll publish results somewhere |
| 22:02 |
Amirsan1 |
Hey guys |
| 22:02 |
Amirsan1 |
I have justed moved my typo3 to a different host and I think I'm having some trouble... I checked the localconf.php and it seems to match up, but it seems there is more to it than that? |
| 22:04 |
Amirsan1 |
fd |
| 22:05 |
Amirsan1 |
jh |
| 22:06 |
Amirsan1 |
anyone have an idea |
| 23:47 |
Amirsan1 |
anyone have an idea with my problem? |
