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00:04 Maik bye
00:13 mayeco can someone help me with commerce?
02:00 CecilieH-B Hi
02:01 CecilieH-B I have a problem with my TYPO3. I've installed it on my PC, but cannot get in contadt with the program
02:02 CecilieH-B contact*
04:05 num000 voidus you are probably not sleeping
04:05 num000 right?
04:06 voidus num000: are you medium? how do you know?
04:06 num000 i now you
04:06 num000 ;)
04:06 num000 how are you this morning?
04:07 hi-ho Greetings, I am struggling to work with multiple languages. The language is added already to the system but I do not know how to create a new record for the page in a different language
04:07 voidus num000: not really morning yet.. lights still shine.
04:08 num000 well, it is going to become morning soon
04:08 voidus hi-ho: web>list, create alternative page lang
04:08 voidus num000: yes, 6:11 here
04:08 hi-ho thanks Voidus, I am going to try
04:09 num000 4:11 here
04:09 num000 voidus but wouldn't you say good morning at this time?
04:10 voidus num000: hehe... "monday morning can't be good", as we say :) but anyway... page.10.value = Good Morning World! :)
04:11 hi-ho Voidus, I found only a link saying Localize to with a new record icon but it does not give me the list of languages to select. It is either All languages or default
04:12 voidus hi-ho: you need to create "alternativa page language" first. select "create new record" and select "alternative page language"
04:14 hi-ho voidus: I tried that but I get only the default language in the language drop down select. Sorry I am totally new to typo3. How to add another language to this drop down list?
04:15 voidus hi-ho: did you create global languages?
04:15 num000 i've installed the tt_news plugin, if i wanted to change some css definitions for the news messages where do i do this?
04:16 hi-ho voidus: The languages were already created by this installation and I can see a list of more than 100 languages when I open the root record details
04:16 voidus num000: tt_news._CSS_DEFAULT_STYLE > and than copy css from tt_news to another file, save it inside fileadmin and use page.includeCSS
04:16 num000 ok
04:16 num000 thank you
04:17 voidus hi-ho: 100? no, that's another languages, i think. you need to create new website language. 100 is just a database of ISO codes, etc.
04:17 voidus hi-ho: create new record and select "website lang."
04:19 hi-ho voidus: Thanks for the help. I found it now :)
04:19 voidus np :)
04:20 hi-ho voidus: I have another question. Is it possible to use the same template for right to left text and left to right at the same time. I can use a TS variable in the template setup but I am wondering if there is another method to do this
04:21 num000 don't you manage left to right and left to right management with css?
04:22 num000 voidus is it tt_news_v2_styles.css file?
04:22 voidus hi-ho: i never did RTL templates.. and i don't know how i do that..
04:22 hi-ho voidus: thanks
04:23 voidus num000: yes
04:23 hi-ho num000: I can use css for body elements but I need to modify the body tag parameter as well and add a new character set meta tag
04:23 num000 i could swear i did read somewhere something about left-to-right writing and typo3
04:24 num000 but i don't know unfortunately where hi-ho
04:24 num000 in one of my books
04:24 num000 if i find it, i'll tell you.
04:24 hi-ho num000: do not worry :) I will try to find it. Thanks for the help anyway
04:24 hi-ho The channel is a great resource
04:25 voidus hi-ho: if you want to change body-tag, ts conditions is a right way
04:26 hi-ho voiuds: yes this is what I am going to use but I thought there might be another way.
04:27 voidus i think no
04:37 num000 typo3.org is up again
04:38 voidus good news
04:39 voidus i with they'll publish reasons
04:39 voidus why it was down
04:39 num000 maybe, i was wondering aswell
04:39 num000 first i thought it would be a problem of my connection
04:40 num000 but then i realized that the server was not reachable
04:40 num000 subdomains were online
04:40 num000 also i did read about it on typo3.com
04:45 num000 voidus have got a source which could calculate a color table for me if i give him a color?
04:46 voidus num000: what?
04:47 num000 in order to have similar colors it would be a good idea to use color tables, there are some i know but these are not web based colors
04:47 num000 i've seen on carpet sellers
04:47 num000 i wonder if there is such a color table calculator on the web somewhere
04:47 num000 btw my extension works great
04:48 num000 sends sms out, collects delivery reports
04:48 voidus num000: great
04:48 num000 lists messages, places them into a database
04:48 voidus but i can't understand what is color table.. something like http://www.artlebedev.ru/tools/colors/ ?
04:48 num000 updates the database when changes on delivery report happen
04:49 num000 ahh
04:49 num000 yes, something like this, the point is i'm changing css of tt_news a bit
04:49 num000 these genius guy has used some colors i would like to change, and
04:49 num000 if you look at dinc.org/cms
04:50 num000 then you see that i need to use similar colors
04:50 ries I hate htmlarea
04:50 num000 ries, ohh. who doesn't
04:51 num000 as long as it doesn't do what we want
06:12 num000 voidus how can i remove the <?xml ... > line above the doctype prelogue
06:13 voidus num000: for ie?
06:13 num000 for all
06:13 num000 genreal
06:13 voidus num000: search TSREF in config.*
06:13 voidus there was a property
06:13 voidus no_xml_prologue or something..
06:14 num000 ok
07:23 tsrepadmin good morning #typo3!!!
07:25 voidus good morning tsrepadmin
07:43 voidus i need help in sql. anyone?
07:47 tsrepadmin voidus whats the problem?
07:48 voidus i need to say... something like if field1 not null, then add to where clause condition table1.field1 = table2.field2
07:49 voidus tsrepadmin:
07:50 tsrepadmin table1.field1 NOT NULL AND table1.field1 = table2.field2
07:50 tsrepadmin should be
07:50 tsrepadmin if it not work, try to ise phpmyadmin
07:51 tsrepadmin there you can search with a form and let you show the sql aterwards
07:51 voidus it is for postgre..
07:57 elbart hello
07:57 voidus hi elbart
08:02 elbart ohh yeah, database practice at the university :)
08:07 uschi good morning folks
08:08 elbart good morning uschi
08:08 uschi morning elbart :-)
08:08 uschi seems that today typo3.org is available again
08:08 uschi so no cause to prolong holidays
08:09 elbart :(
08:09 voidus good morning uschi :)
08:09 uschi morning voidus :)
08:29 janand Denyerec:Hi!
08:38 kerrodhall maybe someone here can help me....
08:39 kerrodhall on the website www.austouch.com.au, they use the tt_news extension
08:39 kerrodhall i want to know how they make the news items fade liek they do so i can use it on my website
08:40 kerrodhall !number-5
08:40 voidus kerrodhall: what specifically?
08:40 kerrodhall can u see the website?
08:41 voidus yes
08:41 elbart hey, thats funny :)
08:41 kerrodhall do you see how the news items are displayed in a list, but they display an image and subheader above
08:41 voidus SINGLE on top and LIST on bottom
08:41 kerrodhall yeah, but how do they fade like that?
08:42 elbart SINGLE, voidus
08:42 kerrodhall is there a separate extension that does that?
08:43 voidus kerrodhall: some javascript and some magic :)
08:43 kerrodhall ....magic isnt gonna help....
08:44 kerrodhall theres gotta be a way to do it
08:44 voidus okey. just javascript and no magic
08:44 kerrodhall lol
08:45 elbart well done, voidus
08:45 kerrodhall do you reckon there is a tutorial around on how to do that?
08:47 voidus hm.. use code, Luk :) grub javascript and understand how it work..
08:47 kerrodhall that snot helpful
08:47 kerrodhall *not
08:47 kerrodhall ahwell
08:48 kerrodhall i'll see what i can do...it may take a while though
08:49 voidus use mootools/jquery.. and you will do that quickly.
08:49 elbart already took a look in the source of the page?
08:49 uschi kerrodhall, inspect the html code
08:49 voidus elbart: ugly JS :(
08:50 uschi right
08:50 kerrodhall lol...i've read over it too many times
08:50 kerrodhall i just get more and more confused with it
08:50 elbart yes, i would try to use jquery :P
08:50 kerrodhall jquery?
08:50 uschi they have an onload in the body element that does the refreshing
08:51 uschi of the opacity
08:51 kerrodhall really? i must have missed that
08:52 elbart jquery is a JS-library, like mootools, prototype, dojo, ....
08:52 kerrodhall ahh, i think i've heard of it
08:52 kerrodhall its been a while...
08:53 uschi btw, i am not sure that i like the effect
08:54 elbart so then refresh that knowledge :P
08:54 uschi i click on a news item and want to read it, and if i am not fast enough it is replaced
08:54 kerrodhall i can change the speed of it
08:54 uschi the script should stop refreshing at least after i have chosen to read a specific item
08:54 kerrodhall no probs there
08:55 kerrodhall yeah
08:55 kerrodhall i agree
08:55 uschi it has to be up to the user
08:55 elbart urgs... haven't recognized it
08:57 uschi there is too much movement on that page, elbart
08:57 uschi sponsors does the same thing
08:57 uschi so you do not know on what to concentrate
08:58 elbart yep
08:58 uschi i always wonder why people do not think about the most basic principles of usability
08:58 kerrodhall yeah
08:59 kerrodhall but all i really are about is the news articles
08:59 kerrodhall i dont want anything else
08:59 uschi the list of latest news is not scannable, because it is so small
08:59 uschi and all uppercase
08:59 kerrodhall what do you mean?
09:00 uschi a question of design
09:00 uschi what do i want to see if i access a news page?
09:01 uschi a list of available news items
09:01 kerrodhall yes....and....
09:01 uschi what do i get?
09:01 kerrodhall the thing that i want
09:01 uschi the latest news with abstract on top
09:01 kerrodhall yeah
09:01 kerrodhall thats it
09:02 uschi a very small list of new news items (the most important content on the page)
09:02 kerrodhall yeah....
09:02 bauschan morning guys
09:02 kerrodhall i see all of that, but i can change it when i implement it into my site
09:02 uschi kerrodhal do you know the accordeon extension?
09:03 elbart hi bauschan
09:03 kerrodhall no
09:03 uschi it is quite nice to look at (with effects), but much more usable
09:03 uschi wait i will give you the link
09:03 kerrodhall thanks
09:05 uschi in action
09:05 uschi http://www.rggooglemap.com/dev/rgaccordion2.html
09:06 uschi perhaps that effect is a lot better, and the js code is clean
09:06 kerrodhall i will check it out
09:08 kerrodhall wow
09:08 kerrodhall thats really good!
09:08 uschi thought you might like it :)
09:08 kerrodhall i still wouldnt mind an auto scroll thing though
09:08 kerrodhall like...it opens one, waits, closes, then opens another...
09:10 uschi kerrodhall, autoscroll effects are nice for things like the sponsor stuff, in general for some less important side content
09:10 uschi it is a means of advertising stuff, not for real main content the user wants to concentrate on
09:10 uschi you can adjust the effects, afaik
09:13 kerrodhall yeah, but i still like it
09:13 uschi it is not important whether you like it, it is important that your website visitors like it
09:13 kerrodhall thats true
09:14 kerrodhall but...is it possible to do it?
09:14 uschi i do not know
09:16 kerrodhall ahwell
09:16 kerrodhall i will stick with it..i like this new one anyway!
09:16 kerrodhall thanks for the help!
09:33 tsrepadmin voidus: could you help me with some menuelements?
09:34 voidus tsrepadmin: maybe
09:40 drindt someone can clue me, iam searching for the method where i can execute plain querys to my database instead of using exec_SELECT someone can help me please?
09:41 tsrepadmin voidus i have a page with subpages. and i want to use different class attributes depending on NO and IFSUB
09:41 voidus drindt: why do you need them?
09:41 tsrepadmin and my problem is:
09:42 drindt voidus: want creating temporary heap table for sorting something, and dont want implement such in php because it is possibly slower and such
09:42 tsrepadmin if there a in menu hidden subpages, the menuitem will be in status IFSUB - but there are no menuitems because they are all hidden
09:43 voidus drindt: hm.. so.. use $GLOBALS['TYPO3_DB']->sql_query();
09:43 drindt voidus: thanks
09:43 voidus drindt: np
09:43 drindt voidus: or provide the t3 api such thing?
09:44 elbart isn't it the t3-api?
09:45 voidus drindt: it is a empty t3-wrapper to function mysql_query
09:45 drindt voidus: yes but breaks the plattform compatibility
09:46 voidus drindt: yes.. but i think that thing that your want to do isn't platform compatible?
09:47 drindt yes its not unfortunately
09:47 voidus can you say what kind of queries you plan to do?
09:48 voidus drindt:
09:49 drindt voidus: i had sorting a lot of birtday timestamps and so on and so i must search in database to find the brithdays on next days and sort them to group per day and so on
09:49 voidus tsrepadmin: never had such problems... if IFSUB isn't what you want to do, you can use USERDEF and write some php...
09:51 voidus drindt: ok.. so what in t3-api can't do that? t3lib_db can do select/update/insert/update... maybe can't UNIONs ..
09:52 ae hello - i'm wondering if anyone knows how to change '21' (the page id) in the following bit of typoscript to be the current page id?
09:52 ae tt_content.stdWrap.innerWrap2 = | <p class="totop"><a href="index.php?id=21#top">^ Top</a></p>
09:52 drindt voidus: i want locking the table iam add the table to ext_tables.sql but i must ensure that only one process uses the table
09:53 voidus drindt: so, you want LOCK statement?
09:54 drindt voidus: yes
09:54 voidus ae: tt_content.stdWrap.innerWrap2.dataWrap = | <p class="totop"><a href="index.php?id={page:id}#top">^ Top </a></p>
09:55 ae voidus: you are the king - thank you
09:55 voidus hm.. only chanserv is king here :)
09:56 ae heh
09:56 elbart ^^
09:56 voidus drindt: i think, sql_query() is a best way. i don't know where LOCK is supported.. just tested on postgre - LOCK is supported, UNLOCK isn't..
09:57 voidus ae: does this line work?
09:58 elbart voidus: it looks as it should work!
09:58 voidus elbart: it looks, but it may not
10:01 elbart yes... i always think in this way, too
10:01 ae voidus: it doesn't appear to work.... i'm still testing though
10:03 voidus sorry, i need to sleep at least 3 hours..
10:04 voidus brb
10:05 elbart sleep well :P
10:11 ae voidus: i found another way of fixing my problem : http://bugs.typo3.org/view.php?id=5026 thanks for the help though :)
10:35 tsrepadmin could it be, that TMENUITEM.IFSUB is buggy in 4.0.2 ?
11:07 Fanty how do I enable a BE user to empty the cache?
12:12 whnsnn hi, I want to resize an image with ...
12:12 whnsnn $new_image = $this->image->imageMagickConvert($old_image,'',$width,'','','','', 1);
12:12 whnsnn $width is set to 200 before
12:13 whnsnn but that does not work.
12:13 whnsnn the original image is 160 pixel and the temp-image is 160 pixel, too ...
12:13 whnsnn does anybody have an idea?
12:14 Denyerec -t
12:17 whnsnn does anybody know my problem?
12:18 whnsnn is there an other function to resize images?
12:18 Denyerec Um
12:18 Denyerec WHERE are you trying to resize?
12:18 Denyerec in what code?
12:18 Denyerec cos Typo3 has built in commands for this inside Typoscript
12:20 whnsnn in my frontend-plugin
12:21 whnsnn this I have above:
12:21 whnsnn $this->image = t3lib_div::makeInstance('t3lib_stdGraphic');
12:21 whnsnn $this->image->init();
12:34 Denyerec Can't help you if it's PHP I'm afraid
12:34 Denyerec check the Typo3 API for image creation calls
12:38 janand Denyerec:Hi
12:38 Denyerec hey janananand
12:39 janand Denyerec:I want to add 2 links on page
12:39 janand Denyerec: Being a newbie i dont know how to?can you help me?
12:39 Denyerec er
12:39 Denyerec welll
12:39 Denyerec that very much depends WHERE you want to add them
12:40 janand Denyerec: On a page may be as a content..i guess ..
12:40 Denyerec Well just add them to the content elemene tyou need them in
12:40 Denyerec ?
12:41 Denyerec If you want to insert them someplace in your tempalte, make a mapping for them ,, then create a typolink in your TS and put it in the mapping you just created
12:41 janand no as a content
12:41 janand using list or page from left menu?
12:43 Denyerec well how do you create the left menu ?
12:44 janand Denyerec:I mean to say from admin section of the left side there are diff. menus like page, list etc
12:44 Denyerec Oh
12:44 Denyerec And you wanna add some items to THAT ?
12:44 Denyerec or adding content from there ?
12:44 Denyerec janand can I ask.... Have you read "Inside Typo3" and "Futuristic Template Building" ?
12:45 Denyerec Because 99% of the questions you're asking are answered in those two documents.
12:45 janand Denyerec: But by clicking on links they be redirected to some other page?
12:45 Denyerec it really is a worthwhile hour of reading
12:53 Fanty How do I avoid images used with a GMENU is being decreased in quality?
13:06 m0oman how can i tell typo3 to reset the cache of gifbuilder stuff/flash files it transfered to the uploads directory when using them in content elements?
13:06 m0oman just replacing the files in fileadmin won't update the ones in the uploads directory typo created, which is quite annoying.
13:07 pulponair m0oman: uploads inst a cache
13:07 m0oman ideally typo3 shouldn't rewrite the files anyway, just link to the ones in the fileadmin directory that were actually specified.
13:07 m0oman hm.
13:08 m0oman what other use of duplicating the same files would it have?
13:08 pulponair m0oman: nope it is used to keep "integraty"
13:08 m0oman it destroys all forms of integrity i have. :<
13:09 m0oman because it completely messes up file structure, file names, usability (you can't just change the images/swfs easily) and uses lots of space.
13:09 m0oman well, i'm not here to argue about that. :P
13:10 m0oman just trying to find a way to deactivate that "feature" or tell typo to reread the original files.
13:10 pulponair m0oman: : depends on your needs but i agree it would be nice to have the choice between copy or link
13:10 m0oman because it's quite horrible to change this content from more than 2 pages manually.
13:11 pulponair m0oman: this "feature" can not be deactivated. The only way of updating a bunch of records at once is to manually fire a query to the db.
13:11 m0oman ouch. :/
13:11 m0oman thanks anyway. hm.
13:12 pulponair m0oman: or you could create a "trigger" extension that does that job for you
13:12 m0oman one that simulates a change of the image/multimedia field?
13:13 pulponair m0oman: unfortunatly there is no link between the "source file" in fileadmin and it various instances in uplaods (execpt for the name but this isnt unique)
13:14 m0oman but the files in uploads do get purged when a content element containing it is deleted?
13:14 pulponair m0oman: no they dont get purged
13:15 pulponair m0oman: but there is an extension for that
13:15 m0oman oo.
13:15 pulponair m0oman: it just traverse all records an deletes "unused" images from uploads
13:16 m0oman "cleanpix"?
13:16 pulponair m0oman: http://typo3.org/extensions/repository/view/kb_cleanfiles/0.4.0/
13:16 pulponair m0oman: did you look at dam already?
13:17 m0oman ooo cheers.
13:18 m0oman yeah, i have it running on one site, but i'm not exactly happy with it, as it makes ftp access to fileadmin directories fairly hard and i cannot rightlick the icons of files anymore so i get a context menu for editing templates with tv.
13:18 m0oman but does dam solve the uploads annoyances?
13:19 pulponair m0oman: right that is an issue i used to also install the classic file module in order to get rid of that TV thing (and hide it from "editors")
13:20 pulponair m0oman: i guess it solves it ....though you have to play along its workflow rules
13:20 pulponair m0oman: meaning: upload to fileadmin -> index -> select in content element
13:21 m0oman i'll have to try that.
13:21 pulponair m0oman: even though i havent tested it regarding the "upload" thing
13:22 pulponair m0oman: i guess they should add some more intelligence to that upload thing like checking for file uniqness via md5_file or something
13:23 pulponair m0oman: and some more logic to the fileadmin in order to keep trac of changes
13:23 m0oman i'm just testing it. :)
13:23 m0oman or just add a linktofileinsteadofcopyingit option. that shouldn't be too hard i guess. D:
13:23 pulponair m0oman: like "this file is referenced by x content elements update?"
13:24 m0oman yeah. dam does that though. minus the update.
13:24 pulponair m0oman: yes the dam idea is quite good but it lacks of usabillity atm
13:25 pulponair m0oman: e.g. that "fuzzy auto category indexing" thing is totally screwed up ;)
13:26 m0oman yeah. and it's not like i need exactly more than the original fileadmin. just minus the copying. and maybe a "this file is linked to by:" view.
13:27 m0oman hm. the dam seems to directly link.
13:42 mikhas Small question. If I want the link to be empty, what should I replace ??? with? lib.test = TEXT lib.test.value= ? lib.tm_logo.typolink.target = _self
13:45 mikhas hmm, solved it in a ugly way. lib.test.value = <span />
13:47 janand can anyone help in using tt_news extension?
13:50 m0oman hm. how can you make dam check for new files though?
13:51 mikhas janand: depends. :) whats your question? the manual is excellent.
13:51 janand I have a page which shows news achive
13:51 janand i want to display only name of month and year on the page
13:52 janand and then clicking on that would display items on the page
13:59 Fanty No way at all to avoid a GMENU to edit the images used to make it?
13:59 Fanty I just want it to use the raw images I give it
14:04 m0oman grrr. why does dam on one site copy swf files to the uploads folder and just link the original in fileadmin on the other site.
14:10 floxx is there any way to clear frontend-cache without entering the backend?
14:20 janand mikhas: hi
14:22 randomresult hello
14:24 Randomresult hello again
14:24 Randomresult i try to use wrapItemAndSub with a gmenu
14:24 Randomresult does that work?
14:25 Randomresult my problem is, that i need a container for every menupoint and his subitems
15:01 Randomresult hey just2b
15:01 Randomresult u there
15:01 Randomresult ?
15:01 pulponair Randomresult: no wrapItemAndSub isnt supported by gmenus
15:02 Randomresult hrmpf
15:02 Randomresult anything i can do?
15:02 pulponair Randomresult: use ifsub instead
15:02 Randomresult hmmm... ok i try
15:04 num000 is anyone using horde here? if yes is it possible to use single sign on for t3 frontend user and hordeuser (horde with sql authentication)
15:06 pulponair num000: i dont know for sure but it is easily possible to write your own auth service
15:06 num000 pulponair where?
15:06 num000 horde?
15:06 pulponair num000: depends on your needs. To you need to authentificate against horde or do you whant authentificate against t3 ?
15:07 num000 well thats a good question, against t3 users, sos that t3 knows the users
15:08 pulponair num000: http://typo3.org/extensions/repository/view/eu_sso_horde/0.0.3/
15:08 num000 i've seen this
15:09 num000 but for this you need ldap
15:10 Randomresult pulponair: see this :
15:10 Randomresult http://phpfi.com/269095
15:14 pulponair Randomresult: the trick is to do something like NO.allWrap =<li>|<li> ; IFSUB < .NO IFSUB.allWrap = <li>| ...2.wrap = ....|...</li>
15:14 pulponair Randomresult: got it?
15:15 Randomresult ok... allwrap...
15:15 Randomresult i try
15:15 pulponair Randomresult: it is not related to allwrap the trick is to just open the tag in ifsub and close it with the 2. navigationlevel
15:16 pulponair Randomresult: which results in something like item and sub
15:16 Randomresult but when there is no subpages... there is a tag open and not closed
15:16 Randomresult right?
15:17 Randomresult so every page needs to have a subpage
15:18 pulponair Randomresult: no sincde no.allWrap = <li>|</li> which gets overwritten by ifsub in case there is a subpages
15:18 Randomresult oh... ok
15:18 Randomresult ill try
15:19 Randomresult something like this:
15:19 Randomresult 1.IFSUB{
15:20 Randomresult 2.wrap = | </div> i mena
15:20 Randomresult mean
15:21 pulponair Randomresult: no ...wait i ll put up a sample
15:21 Randomresult thx
15:22 pulponair Randomresult: http://phpfi.com/269098
15:23 pulponair Randomresult: dont be confused about the 2= TMENU it will also work with gmenu (i just did c&p from an existing project)
15:27 Randomresult ok
15:27 Randomresult thx
15:27 Randomresult i try
15:28 Randomresult ahh... u close in the second level...
15:28 Randomresult great
15:33 Randomresult ok... works... but problem: i have a div around every submenu item... so it closes after e...
15:33 Randomresult wait
15:39 pulponair Randomresult: yes right closing is done in the 2nd level
15:40 Randomresult pulponair: hmmm
15:40 pulponair Randomresult: so ifsub overides the "closing" and it is done in the 2nd level
15:40 Randomresult it nearly works
15:40 Randomresult i m searching my mistake
15:40 pulponair Randomresult: post your result i ll have a look at it
15:41 Randomresult ok
15:41 pulponair Randomresult: but hurry up gotta participate to a meeting in a few minutes
15:41 pulponair ;)
15:43 Randomresult http://phpfi.com/269103
15:44 Randomresult well actually, it puts all the following menuitems (level1) in the one with subpages
15:45 pulponair Randomresult: also post the generated html source please
15:46 Randomresult i have...
15:46 Randomresult scroll down.. but wait, i post the whole source
15:46 pulponair ah ok
15:46 Randomresult http://phpfi.com/269104
15:47 pulponair Randomresult: 2.allWrap= | </div> -> 2.wrap = |</div>
15:48 Randomresult hell ... yeah!
15:48 Randomresult great thanx
15:48 Randomresult thats why i love typ3... always a solution... and of course irc
15:49 Randomresult thank u so much
15:49 pulponair Randomresult: no problem
15:49 pulponair Randomresult: i wonder why there actually inst a wrapItemAndSub for gmenu but anyway ....
15:50 Randomresult yeah... would be a great option
15:51 Randomresult lets put it on the "wishlist" for next typo3 version :)
15:52 pulponair Randomresult: feel free to add an issue to the bugtracker
15:53 Randomresult i will
15:53 Randomresult dunno how, but i will find out how to
15:53 pulponair http://bugs.typo3.org/
15:53 Randomresult does anyone around knows a programm to capture screenvids on a mac osx?
15:53 Randomresult like kasper uses?
15:53 Randomresult pulponair
15:53 Randomresult pulponair: i will do now
15:54 pulponair get an account and add an issue ...set its status Severity to "feature"
15:54 Randomresult i will
15:54 pulponair ok i gotta join that meeting now ...brb
15:56 Randomresult pulponair: thanx again
15:59 Randomresult pulponair: which projekt to use
15:59 Randomresult ?
15:59 pulponair Randomresult: typo3core
16:00 Randomresult ok
16:14 wacky_ does Typo3 have anything to fetch some RSS feeds, somewhere on the web, and cache them locally ?
16:14 wacky_ and put them at some place on one's website ?
16:14 pulponair wacky: no
16:14 wacky_ if so, what's the best module ?
16:15 Denyerec um
16:15 Denyerec tw_rss probably
16:15 wacky_ pulponair: :P
16:15 pulponair wacky_: i recently wrote a "shared ce" plugin which does a similar thing i guess it could archive your needs with some modifications
16:15 wacky_ are there others ?
16:16 wacky_ well.. I don't really want to archive my needs
16:16 wacky_ I need to implement it on a web site :)
16:18 uriahheep voidus: you around?
16:18 voidus uriahheep: yes
16:18 uriahheep voidus: is there a way of getting the image information of the image before the last image?
16:19 voidus don't think so
16:20 uriahheep hmm, damn..
16:33 num000 hi voidus, hi all
16:34 num000 which file has the title tags for fe_user table field?
16:34 num000 fields
16:53 voidus num000: what do you mean? localization?
16:53 Denyerec PEW PEW
16:54 voidus Denyerec, you really need to game a bit less :)
16:55 num000 hi
16:55 num000 hehe
16:55 Denyerec But Portal was so good :(
16:55 num000 voidus i've added two more fields to fe_user, my extension did ;) these table fields are also shown in the userlist of newloginbox
16:55 num000 now the table fiels title have the table field name itself
16:55 num000 no description
16:56 num000 there is of course the locallang.xml file of newloginbox
16:56 num000 but how do i address them, i mean how do i say that this title belongs to this table header?
16:56 num000 with table, i mean the database table
16:57 num000 Denyerec, what are you gaming?
16:58 voidus num000: you mean, newloginbox pi3?
16:59 num000 yes voidus
16:59 num000 exact
17:00 num000 i did even grep after the label index, but the whole extension has not one entry for it
17:01 Atre hullo peoples anyone use the mnogosearch extension?
17:01 voidus num000: not so simple. you need to modify pi3's _LOCAL_LANG
17:01 num000 voidus where?
17:01 voidus num000: write some TS or php...
17:01 num000 in class.tx_newloginbox_pi3.php
17:01 num000 ?
17:02 voidus something like plugin.tx_newloginbox_pi3._LOCAL_LANG.default.listFieldHeader_yourfield = yourvalue
17:02 Denyerec Well, I just finished Portal
17:02 Denyerec which was awesome.
17:03 Denyerec And now my regular haunts are TF2 and BF2:21cw
17:03 voidus Atre: seems no. i did to plan to test it, but had no time
17:03 num000 voidus where yourvalue is the table fieldname?
17:03 voidus num000: yourfileld is table fieldname
17:04 Atre voidus: thanks, I've been trying to get it to work last day or so but must be missing something indexer is not indexing : )
17:05 num000 voidus i can't believe that this works, but it works
17:05 voidus Atre: mnogosearch needs special build of php afaik. is it right?
17:12 uriahheep voidus: can i refer to a templavoila image field element in typoscript?
17:12 voidus only in TS which is inside DS
17:14 uriahheep ah, ok...
17:16 uriahheep voidus: can i create a temp.blah in the DS TS and see it in some template TS?
17:16 voidus uriahheep: no
17:16 uriahheep damn...
17:17 uriahheep how can i refer to the contents of the elements in a template's TS then?
17:17 voidus hm... there is a hack.. ;)
17:17 uriahheep oh?
17:17 voidus select content element using CONTENT/RECORDS
17:17 uriahheep what kind of hack? a hack that you would know where to link me to about? ;)
17:18 voidus it requires php.
17:18 uriahheep huh?
17:18 uriahheep hmmm... can you give me an example please?
17:19 voidus contents of FCEs are stored in the tt_contents table in the pi_flexform field or so.
17:19 voidus this field is an XML
17:20 voidus so, you need to select needed content element, refer to needed field and unpack XML
17:20 voidus last thing require php
17:20 Denyerec voidus
17:20 voidus Denyerec: what?
17:20 Denyerec id you had created a 2 column FCE for TV
17:20 Denyerec and you wanted to port it to another site
17:20 Denyerec what is the easiest and fastest way to do it?
17:21 voidus Denyerec: t3d?
17:21 Denyerec I was dreading that you would say that.
17:21 voidus hehe
17:23 Denyerec ok I've got a dialog asking me about fields and relationships...
17:23 Denyerec but I don' tknow how far to go!
17:25 voidus Denyerec: select tables: tt_content, tx_templavoila_*.
17:25 Denyerec Ok
17:25 Denyerec not "all tables2
17:25 Denyerec :)
17:33 FloLeBlanc hi all
17:34 uriahheep voidus: do you have an example of this php that is required?
17:35 FloLeBlanc Can anyone tell me if it is possible to create a menu that instead of not rendering the menu items the user does not have access to displays them "grayed" so the user gets a sneak peak what SHOULD be there but what he can't access until he registers?
17:35 voidus uriahheep: no.. you can look at kb_tv_cont_slide..
17:35 uriahheep ok
17:35 uriahheep thanks
17:35 just2b FloLeBlanc yes is possible
17:36 uriahheep k, thanks
17:37 FloLeBlanc just2b: could you help me out with a link or a hint how to start to achieve this?
17:37 just2b hint > showAccessRestrictedPages
17:38 just2b need something like
17:38 just2b showAccessRestrictedPages=126
17:38 just2b showAccessRestrictedPages.addParams=&return_url=## #RETURN_URL###
17:38 FloLeBlanc thank you
17:39 uriahheep wow, is it just me or is typo3.org being dos'ed?
17:39 FloLeBlanc works for me
17:40 uriahheep yeah but it's real slow
17:40 FloLeBlanc not for me :)
17:40 voidus not for me too
17:41 uriahheep why couldn't i simply give the element whose info i need a <TypoScriptObjPath> ?
17:42 voidus uriahheep: it's for using "global" ts in ds and not the reverse
17:43 Denyerec voidus will the t3d bring along associated html and image files that the FCE was linked to?
17:44 Denyerec 0 Possible error: tx_templavoila_tmplobj:2 had no new id assigned to it. This indicates that the record was not added to database during import. Please check changelog!
17:44 Denyerec 1 Possible error: tx_templavoila_datastructure:2 had no new id assigned to it. This indicates that the record was not added to database during import. Please check changelog!
17:45 voidus hm..
17:45 uriahheep voidus: hmmm, k...
17:49 Denyerec Any idea where I went wrong ?
17:50 voidus Denyerec: dunno. maybe select "all tables", but call export on only page where DS/TO is..
17:51 Denyerec voidus - the import t3d option is only available on the root node of the tree - correct?
17:51 voidus Denyerec: no :) it is available for each page
17:51 Denyerec That might be where I failled.
17:52 voidus Denyerec: use "more options"
17:52 voidus i am so tired to sort element will that ***ing up-down arrows
17:53 Denyerec Yeah no shit voidus
17:53 Denyerec even some scrolling DIV's would be an improvement
17:53 wacky_ what would you guys recommend to track visitors and website stats ?
17:53 just2b voidus, there is one ;)
17:53 Denyerec google analytics
17:53 voidus just2b: really?
17:53 just2b yes
17:53 Denyerec Join me in my stare voidus
17:53 Denyerec Cos I'm anticipating a "In Typo 4.2" response.
17:54 voidus just2b: give us a name!
17:54 just2b there was a proof oc concept in dev list.. just needs someone who can take it over for taking it into the core
17:55 Denyerec I was right to stare.
17:55 Denyerec See?
17:55 Denyerec See? :D
17:55 voidus :)
17:55 just2b i guess i will take over ;)
17:56 voidus btw
17:57 voidus http://news.typo3.org/news/article/core-development-mailinglist-now-open-for-community-involvement/
17:58 voidus so it should be easier now
17:58 just2b yeah old news ;)
17:58 just2b what should be easier? you saw the patches in the tracker too
17:58 just2b so what?
18:00 voidus old? it was in my RSS only this morning..
18:02 uriahheep voidus: is it possible to have multiple FCE attributes appending themselves to an attribute?
18:02 uriahheep voidus: or will the last attribute element replace the previous ones?
18:03 voidus i am not sure what do you mean...
18:03 just2b voidus.. right.. so it is a day old ;)
18:04 uriahheep well, if i have mapped two attribute elements to the same thing, e.g. a style="" attribute in a <div> tag, will both show up? or only the second one?
18:06 voidus i thought you cannot map two element to same thing..
18:06 uriahheep oh?
18:06 uriahheep didn't know that
18:06 voidus templavoila should show error
18:08 uriahheep yeah, it does :(
18:12 Denyerec Hey viodus that appeared to work!
18:12 Denyerec that is going to save me SO Much damn time in future.
18:12 Denyerec I was simply on the wrong page
18:15 gerards hi everyone.
18:26 voidus Denyerec: the man on photo "Collier1" is really similar to one my friend :)
18:30 voidus Denyerec: you here?
18:30 Denyerec Yep
18:31 uriahheep how do i check if a field is empty in TS?
18:32 uriahheep like, i have an IMG_RESOURCE, and i wrap it with something, but i only want it to be wrapped if it's not empty
18:32 Denyerec I can guarntee it's not the same guy ;)
18:32 voidus Denyerec: compare: http://creativ.pnz.ru/myfriend.jpg
18:33 Denyerec 403
18:33 voidus oops, refresh
18:35 Denyerec damn he is pretty similar
18:36 Denyerec Though he looks a good 40 kilo's lighter than my friend ;)
18:36 voidus and 20 years younger
18:36 Denyerec Hehe no my friend was only 23 there !
18:36 voidus really?
18:39 Denyerec Aye
18:51 just2b you cant take too muich
18:51 just2b and you shoudlnt look into the pc ;)
18:51 just2b me too.. my new ext drives me crazy
18:53 pulponair just2b: they rolled out a new carpet overhere in my office i guess it evaporates some chemical vapors or something ...at least it makes headache
18:54 pulponair just2b: therefor time to pack up work ...
18:54 pulponair so ...bye dudes
19:12 uriahheep hmmm
19:12 uriahheep voidus: how does .required work?
19:12 uriahheep is it only for stdwrap?
19:12 uriahheep or is it for everything?
19:12 voidus uriahheep: yes, for stdWrap
19:13 voidus but a lot of things have stdWrap
19:22 uriahheep hmm, ok
19:56 ries Denyerec: thanks for the hard work!!!
19:57 Denyerec iI'm glad it's OK!
20:31 [1]Maik Hi
20:32 voidus hi
20:34 pirmin23 good evening
20:34 [1]Maik Hello
20:43 uriahheep hrm...
20:48 uriahheep http://pastebin.ca/737808
20:49 uriahheep voidus: the ifEmpty in there isn't working... it always just outputs width:0px;
20:49 uriahheep voidus: how could i check whether the output of cObject is 0 or not?
20:51 voidus .if.ifGreaterThen
20:51 uriahheep ...and how could i make it output display:none; if it is greater than 0?
20:56 uriahheep voidus: any idea?
20:57 voidus try .if.ifGreaterThen = 0 and if.value = dispay:none
20:58 uriahheep hmm, thanks
20:58 uriahheep i'll try
21:01 Hatschi hi
21:01 Hatschi Does anybody know how to use the same "news" content within 3 different sites?
21:10 Denyerec there are a couple of CE synchronising extensions in the TER
21:11 [1]Maik Do you mean on 3 differnt Typo Installations ?
21:12 Hatschi no
21:13 Hatschi I created 3 websites
21:13 Hatschi and linked them with domains
21:13 Hatschi but I have some kind of newsticker
21:13 Hatschi and this newsticker should be displayed on every homesite of those 3 sites
21:13 [1]Maik You meant different Websites on one installation ?
21:14 Hatschi yes
21:14 [1]Maik You could Use a central Storage folder for putting the news in it and refer to it from each homesite
21:15 Hatschi hmm..
21:16 Hatschi http://img81.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenyxb7.jpg
21:16 Hatschi this is my structure
21:17 uriahheep hmm...
21:17 uriahheep should [globalVar = TSFE:lastImageInfo|0 = 0]
21:17 uriahheep work?
21:18 Hatschi uriahheep, ??
21:19 uriahheep as a typoscript conditional
21:19 uriahheep i'm asking a question, it's not a suggestion to you ;)
21:19 [1]Maik one moment
21:19 Hatschi uriahheep, sry xD
21:19 uriahheep ;)
21:26 [1]Maik hatschi, look at http://yaml.t3net.de/tt_news.32.0.html (unfortunally in German) there is a good example with tt news.
21:26 Hatschi what a luck that i'm a german xD
21:27 uriahheep [1]Maik: ...do you know of a way that this [ http://pastebin.ca/737838 ] condition could work?
21:27 Hatschi I have so far no experience with typo3, but is it a problem to update typo3 with using extensions?
21:27 [1]Maik Me too ;-) You could repeat step 5 and generate more pages with the CE New and the same "Ausgangspunkt"
21:28 uriahheep oh...
21:28 uriahheep crap
21:28 uriahheep hahaha
21:28 uriahheep typo
21:28 [1]Maik mom uriah
21:28 Hatschi I just know it from different CMS that it is often a mess to update the system itself because extensions were changing some systemfiles
21:30 [1]Maik No no Problem at all. Extensions are in separate folder Structures and don't change anything in the core. Sometimes There are Problems on an Update, but Extensions updates are mostly availiable
21:30 [1]Maik For a German Froum and basic information watch typo3.net
21:30 [1]Maik need to look for conditions one moment
21:31 Hatschi thx
21:31 Hatschi I really appreciate that
21:35 [1]Maik Sorry Uriah I've never really worked with conditions, anytime I use it I need to play around...
21:37 uriahheep [1]Maik: hmm, ok, cool, thanks anyway
21:39 Hatschi @Maik, are there any further good Documentations for Typo3???
21:39 Hatschi I have right now a quite good book infront of me, but its not "enough"
21:42 [1]Maik Basic Information can be found on http://www.mittwald.de/fileadmin/pdf/dokumentation.pdf and http://typo3.org/documentation/document-library/tutorials/ There are also some good tutorial Sites google for it
21:43 Hatschi [1]Maik, thx so far, gonna have a closer look on them
22:04 num000 hi all
22:05 uriahheep hrm...
22:05 uriahheep voidus: do you see anything wrong with this TS? http://pastebin.ca/737872
22:06 uriahheep am i not supposed to put 10/20 inside a TEXT element or something?
22:08 voidus yes :)
22:08 voidus you need to use COA for that
22:09 uriahheep heh, k ;)
22:12 mayeco need help with commerce!
22:13 voidus mayeco: ask your question
22:16 mayeco I need help with commerce extension, a _good_ tutorial
22:17 mayeco http://wiki.typo3.org/index.php/Commerce that dont make the extension work
22:17 mayeco http://www.sk-typo3.de/Shop-aufsetzen-mit-commerce-Quickt.286.0.html dont make the extension work
22:17 mayeco I need a tutorial that make work the thing
22:17 mayeco voidus: can you help?
22:19 voidus i think no
22:23 num000 mayeco voidus can't help you because you do not ask discrete questions
22:34 mayeco voidus: where I can find a tutorial that make work commerce?
22:34 num000 mayeco voidus can't help you because you do not ask discrete questions
22:34 mayeco lool
22:35 mayeco wait I dont know what discrete means
22:35 mayeco mmmm discrete...
22:36 voidus what do you mean "can't make commerce work".
22:36 voidus ?
22:36 voidus did you check all 6 rules? :)
22:36 num000 mayeco exact
22:36 num000 voidus which 6 rules?
22:37 voidus http://t3flyers.wordpress.com/2007/08/20/6-top-secrets-of-successful-typo3-programming/
22:37 mayeco hehehe nice
22:37 mayeco yep
22:38 mayeco is not a problem about the 6 rules
22:38 mayeco is bad doc in that extension
22:38 mayeco should I use other extension for a shop?
22:39 mayeco can somebody recomend me other shoop extension for typo3?
22:40 voidus mayeco: kb_shop or commerce. there is no so much choice.
22:41 voidus but you can use standalone applications like oscommerce/xtcommerce/zencart/cscart, etc
22:41 mayeco voidus: yeah...
23:00 num000 voidus wordpress has some trouble with turkey
23:00 num000 they are blocking wordpress at the moment
23:01 voidus why?
23:01 num000 there is a blog which diffarms an author called harun xxxx ( i don't know exact the name anymore)
23:02 num000 and there are blogs that write in his name
23:02 num000 so he got a courd decision to let it remove
23:02 num000 they didni't remove those entries
23:02 num000 and the courd ordered to block it
23:03 voidus not so democratic
23:03 num000 well, if they blocked him because of flaming, than you are right
23:04 num000 but if they did block it because there are people writing blog entries in his name
23:04 num000 then it wouldn't be different in any european country
23:04 num000 i did read the email which was sent by the lawyer of this guy
23:04 num000 and it did sound quite reasinable
23:06 num000 http://wordpress.com/blog/2007/08/19/why-were-blocked-in-turkey/
23:06 num000 voidus look at the link above
23:12 voidus really strange. why wordpress? these guys can buy a hosting in Zimbabwe and google will find what they write. in such case Turkey will block zimbabwe or google?

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