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00:00 voidus btw, why no 4.2alpha1 in topic?
00:02 Denyerec Because it's PHP5 only?
00:02 Denyerec And that seems to terrify everyone ?
00:02 Denyerec ;)
00:13 ries voidus: if you want....
00:13 voidus i want :)
00:14 voidus Denyerec: not everyone :)
00:14 Denyerec 4.1.3 looks like a failry minor maintenance relase
00:14 voidus yes
00:14 Denyerec actually to be hoenst, unless the release notes are VERY modest, 4.1 doesn't look like much of an advance either
01:34 Hendrix Anyone awake?
01:49 voidus Hendrix: yes
01:55 Hendrix Hi there!
01:56 Hendrix I think I'm almost done constructing som interesting typoscript with the help of google...
01:57 Hendrix Is it possible to set a value twice in TypoScipt. I.e. could I set it to one thing and the reset it later if needed?
02:04 voidus Hendrix: maybe.
02:05 Hendrix Doesn't seem to be working too well...
02:05 Hendrix So I've gone with pageurl2 instead
02:39 ries Hendrix: it's a configuration language...
02:40 ries so you cannot really do that
02:40 ries Normally you would copy the object if you want to re-use
02:40 Hendrix Yeah. i noticed. =)
02:40 ries hey Ammler wb
06:09 d|g hi all
06:33 just2b 4.1.2 is out
06:39 theanomaly *4.1.3
06:40 just2b yeah sry
06:40 just2b ;))
06:40 just2b and i helped again, muha
09:13 tobi2 good morning #typo3
09:16 uschi good morning folks :-)))
09:18 tobi2 good morning uschi
09:18 uschi morning tobi2 :-)
09:19 uschi are you the tobi I know (typo3wizard) or another one?
09:20 tobi2 yes i am the tobi you know, somebody did tage my nickname it seems ;)
09:20 uschi that bastard :-))
09:21 tobi2 hm its not that bad, im not online very often because i dont have a stable internet connection at home at the moment
09:21 uschi oops, poor boy, how comes?
09:21 uschi did you move, tobi2 ?
09:22 tobi2 yes, i moved to innsbruck and started to study and im still missing my cable internet connection :(
09:27 umc hello. anyone knows any good documentation on how to make mailformplus work ? the online manual is not very noob friendly... :(
10:05 Fanty Whats the magic word I need to google to find the specifics on what settings I can use in my ext_conf_template.txt files...?
10:16 tobi2 Fanty: afaik you can use everything you want, same syntax as used for the constant editor
10:18 m0oman moo. does anybody know of any web developer/page analyzing addons for ie7 that could help trace errors in sites only occuring in ie?
10:19 m0oman i'm declaring some javascript stuff/functions and loading external .js files in the page header. it works fine in every browser, apart from ie, where it somehow doesn't seem to "remember" the functions for later use in the template. it works fine in the pre typo3 sites though, that load exactly the same js and use the same functions.
10:32 Fanty What can cause the page tree to be show twice in the BE?
10:33 Fanty the second tree has the exact same pages / ids
10:34 tobi2 usually that is a double db mount or a db mount and a admin user Fanty
10:34 pmk65 Fanty: http://typo3.org/documentation/document-library/core-documentation/doc_core_tstemplates/current/view/2/5/ <-- ext_conf_template.txt "docs"
10:35 Fanty thanks tobi2 and pmk65 :)
10:36 Fanty I've put myself in a content editor group by accident it seems
10:38 Jigal good morning fellow T3 wrestlers :-)
10:38 uschi morning Jigal
10:39 Jigal Still can't find if and how I can do calculations in Typoscript :-(
10:39 uschi there is a function CALC and a stdWrap property prioriCalc
10:40 uschi what do you want to calculate, Jigal ?
10:41 Jigal I can reach two integers, normally as plaap.field = startt and plaap.field = endt. I need endt-start...
10:41 Jigal (startt and endt come from database data via an extension)
10:43 uschi Hm, Jigal, perhaps you can use a LOAD_REGISTER?
10:43 uschi and there calculate the value?
10:44 uschi It is hard to say how to proceed without knowing the surroundings
10:44 uschi first you should check stdWrap prioriCalc
10:46 Jigal uschi: I could only find examples in TSRef with literal numbers and not values from other objects...
10:46 pmk65 Jigal: Use Jigal: How do you access your 2 values from the DB, using a CONTENT object or a TEXT objeect?
10:46 Jigal with prioriCalc I mean
10:48 Jigal pmk65: I can assign them using field: plaap.field = startt (this is what the author of the extension wrote in his documentation and it works)
10:48 pmk65 10 = TEXT
10:48 pmk65 10.prioriCalc = intval
10:48 pmk65 10.dataWrap {field:endt} - {field:startt}
10:49 pmk65 there's missing a "=" sign in the last line.
10:49 Jigal pmk65: the missing "=" is what I guessed already :-)
10:49 Jigal pmk65: one moment, gonna try it!
10:59 Jigal pmk65: currently I end up with " 0 - 00 ", but I think it's a beginning...
11:00 pmk65 is that the ouput you get?
11:01 Jigal yes, at the moment. but I'm still trying to tweak it to let it calculate :-)
11:03 pmk65 Then try setting 10.dataWrap.prioriCalc = intval
11:06 Jigal pmk65: no change... time for wild experiments ;-)
11:11 Jigal pmk65: working!
11:12 Jigal value = {field:endt} - {field:startt}
11:12 Jigal insertData = 1
11:12 Jigal prioriCalc = intval
11:12 Jigal That did the trick! Thanks for putting me on the right track :-)
11:28 Jigal pmk65: damn, it handles {field:endt} - {field:startt} as if it substract one string from the other, then it converts to integer and gives '0' in all cases :-(
11:31 Jigal pmk65: the " 0 - 00 " can also be explained: it had no value, but prioriCalc said intval, so it converted to "0". Then it applied the dataWrap which evaluated to "0 - 0|" and the result was "0 - 00"...
11:32 tobi2 Jigal: try to set 10.prioriCalc=intval 10.cObject=TEXT 10.cObject.dataWrap={field:endt} - {field:startt}
11:37 Jigal tobi2: works!!!
11:44 tobi2 :)
12:10 umc anyone knows any good documentation on how to make mailformplus work ? the online manual is not very noob friendly... :(
12:11 STeiNy hm. we've got it running here. where's the problem?
12:12 umc I'm not used to it... don't know exactly how it works... I'll reread the documentation
12:12 umc I just got the example running
12:12 umc hopefully it will help me
12:13 STeiNy well, if the example runs, then the way is not too far anymore :)
12:13 STeiNy good luck
12:18 umc it is possible to store the informations in the DB too... right ?
12:18 umc besides sending it by mail...
12:19 STeiNy yep. that's possible
12:20 umc and I also saw in the example they have a hidden field with the id of the page... would it be possible to store information about the FE user that's logged in when he is using the form ?
12:21 STeiNy hm. you want to save the FEUser, which submitts the form? well.. haven't tried that. but should be possible with some typoScript magic. maybe
12:21 umc just have to become a wizard... :D
12:22 STeiNy :)
12:22 STeiNy if you insert the marker ###FEUSER_[fieldname]###
12:22 STeiNy then the field gets the pre-setting from the FEUSER table (according to the docu)
12:23 umc I didn't even figure out how to add FE users yet... I only saw new records for BE users... but I'll probably find out from some docs... :)
12:23 STeiNy well then just add a hidden field to your HTML-Template, and insert this marker
12:23 STeiNy okay. inserting of fronten-users works via the list-module in the backend
12:24 umc that's where I went... and new content...
12:25 umc I have a User Group Alternative Language
12:25 umc is that it ?
12:25 umc hm... nope
12:27 STeiNy no. you insert a storage folder.
12:27 STeiNy in that storage folder insert the "website user group" and the "website user"
12:28 m0oman anybody good with typo3, javascript and internet explorer?
12:28 m0oman my javascript refuses to work in ie when i "use" it via typo3. the same code/includes work fine when they're not generated from typo3. :<
12:28 m0oman and i have no clue what to look for anymore.
12:29 umc oh... I see now... I was creating new records in normal pages, that's why I didn't have any of those records...
12:31 umc great... thanks STeiNy
12:31 STeiNy @umc: no problem
12:32 umc another question... a long time ago I started working on an extension... generated the skeleton using the kickstart... but after it works, is there a documentation or something that tells you how to pack it and create a documentation page ?
12:32 umc I was thinking of sharing with everybody...
12:32 STeiNy there are some OpenOffice-templates for writing the docu i think...
12:36 STeiNy for deploying it to the TER you have to have an account. then just go to your extension in the backend, open the details and choose "upload to TER"
12:40 Denyerek what would be the easiest way to install a standard set of extensions in one go? Create a proxy extension with the desired extensions as dependencies?
12:41 kv0s Hi!
12:42 umc ok... doesn't sound that complicated... I'll have a go at it once it's working...
12:42 Denyerek Looks like someone just woke up and still has energy ;)
12:42 umc STeiNy, can you borrow me your Typo3 knowledge so I can make a copy of it ? :P
12:44 STeiNy yeah proxy-extension sounds easy. :)
12:45 kv0s Does anyone knows about a extension to display a list of feusers-pictures ... ?
12:45 kv0s I can't find any feuserlist with images of the users?!?
12:45 kv0s :-(
12:47 STeiNy kv0s have a look at wec_staffdirectory
12:47 STeiNy maybe that helps
12:49 kv0s STeiNy: Thanks. It is much more then i need, but i think it is possible to shrink it down .. ,-)))
12:55 alexwx helo, can someone help with the conditions like that? http://phpfi.com/270846,,, but this one doesnt work correctly .. hmm
13:07 pmk65 kv0s: You could also do it using typoscript. An example on how to access the fe_user fields can be found hee: http://www.typo3wizard.com/en/snippets/cool-stuff-typoscript/userinfo-for-currently-logged-in-user.html
13:09 Hatschi hey
13:09 Hatschi I have short question, what was the date of the last release?
13:09 Hatschi I can't find it somehow
13:10 STeiNy the last typo3 release?
13:10 Hatschi yep
13:10 STeiNy see: http://typo3.org/download/packages/
13:11 STeiNy the latest release is 4.1.3
13:11 Hatschi there is no date
13:11 Hatschi I would like to know when the last release was published
13:12 STeiNy see the release notes of 4.1.3: TYPO3 version 4.1.3 which was released on October 22, 2007.
13:12 STeiNy so it's brand new :)
13:12 Denyerek Hatschi - you're typing in bold
13:12 Denyerek Sort that out :P
13:12 redforce Hatschi, go to typo3.org, read "TYPO3 4.1.3" in the Development column, click read more and see the date
13:12 Denyerek It doesn't make people listen more :)
13:13 Hatschi Denyerek, I'm sorry, I always forgot about that
13:13 Denyerek :)
13:14 Hatschi true, its from yesterday
13:14 Hatschi I had a look at sourceforge and I was suprised about the date
13:14 Hatschi thx
13:21 Denyerek hehe
13:29 FloLeBlanc hi all
13:30 Denyerec hey flo
13:30 FloLeBlanc is there a way to time links like the content elements themselves? (f.e. "activate this link on 02-02-2007")
13:30 FloLeBlanc (i specify: links set in the RTE)
13:30 FloLeBlanc hi denyerec
13:36 num000 hi all,what is the difference between phpmyadmin and the extension phpmyadmin?
13:49 Jigal hi FloLeBlanc
13:49 FloLeBlanc hey jigal
13:49 FloLeBlanc how are you
13:50 Jigal Flo: I'm fine, thank you. How are you?
13:50 FloLeBlanc quite fine, thx
13:51 Jigal num000: PHPMyAdmin is a stand-alone application. The extension has a version of PHPMyAdmin included in the package and loads it in the content frame of the BE interface.
13:52 FloLeBlanc reboot
13:53 num000 Jigal but after installation it doesn't appear in the content frame at all.
13:54 num000 Jigal is there somewhere a documentation to it? Actually phpmyadmin is a great tool and i wouldn't need any documentation for it if it would appear
13:54 Jigal num000: No, after installation, logout and login again. Then you see it in the Menu on the left under Tools.
13:55 num000 also i would like to ask if someone uses wurfl with t3, there are two different versions in the ter, which one would be the right choice
13:55 Jigal num000: only for admin users
13:55 num000 pardon?
13:56 Jigal num000: phpMyAdmin extension: "restricts access to admin-users only"
13:56 num000 yes, yes, sure, i was asking with wurfl as a frontent rendering mechanism for mobile phones
13:57 num000 there are wurfl and wurfl2 extensions in the ter
13:58 num000 is someone using wurlf here?
13:59 Jigal num000: wurfl is 1,5 years older than wurfl2; wurfl2 says it's an update of wurfl; my guess is that wurfl was abandoned and Martin Kindler developed the extension further and had to rename it. I would install wurfl2...
13:59 FloLeBlanc re
13:59 Jigal wb
14:00 FloLeBlanc did someone answer the rte links timing question yet? :)
14:00 Jigal flo: no ;-) You didn't miss any answers
14:00 FloLeBlanc jigal: damn :)
14:01 num000 Jigal thank you. have you got experiences with wurfl2?
14:01 Jigal num000: no, not at all :-)
14:02 FloLeBlanc what happens when a link points to a content element that is hidden, does the user get a 404 or is there just no link
14:04 num000 ;-)
14:04 num000 Jigal thank you so far.
14:04 num000 are there alternatives to wurfl like mechanisms?
14:04 Jigal FloLeBlanc: have you tried? it's pretty easy to setup...
14:05 FloLeBlanc I will thought someone knows it by heart :)
14:07 Denyerec Mm
14:07 Denyerec My rootpage isn't showing in my menu
14:07 Denyerec Yet... I thought the menu TS was simple
14:07 Denyerec if I pastecode coudl someone take a quick look please?
14:07 kaktuspalme hi
14:08 FloLeBlanc hmm doesn't work as intended anyway
14:08 kaktuspalme im searching for a typoscript, when i press on a link on a navigation, this navigation point should get a new class
14:08 num000 Denyerec maybe your page is hidden from menu?
14:08 Denyerec http://paste2.org/p/8639
14:08 num000 btw hello Denyerec
14:08 Denyerec lo :)
14:09 Denyerec it's definately not hidden in menu
14:09 rTi hello. does someone has an idea, how i can determine whether a value retrieved by tslib_feUserAuth.getKey() is 0 because it was set to 0 or if it is 0 because it was never set before? i think the is somehow a general php question, isn'7 it?
14:10 Denyerec Does that look broken to you ?
14:10 Denyerec oh wait
14:10 Denyerec waaaaaait
14:10 Denyerec I have a rootpage, and then 3 subpages
14:10 Denyerec so the rootpage shouldn't show in the hmenu anyway should it ?
14:14 Jigal hi Ries
14:22 ries Hey Jigal
14:22 ries good morning folks...
14:23 Jigal Moggûh Ries
14:26 Jigal Don't know if you all know this one, but t3quixplorer has become quite a favourite extension with me. A useful explorer/file viewer/editor.
14:29 Denyerec fvv
14:29 Denyerec MEEP
14:29 Denyerec COr
14:30 Denyerec my arms are killing me, I went training for the first time in months last night and BOY am I feeling it today
14:30 Jigal Denyerec: have all the parts of your brain fallen into the right positions?
14:31 Denyerec Not quite yet
14:35 Jigal What is the difference in functionality between page type "Not in menu" and the page option "Hide in menu" (which is also present on a Not-in-menu-type page)?
14:54 Jigal If I set header_layout to "Layout2" for a content element header with a link it's rendered with the link inside the <h2>pair and outside!? What is that good for??
14:55 cybernol Hi All, I'm looking for a way to customice htmlRTE the right content colum I wanna change the background color anyone have a hit for me ?
14:56 cybernol i tryed RTE.config.tt_content.colPos.types {
14:56 cybernol 2.mainStyleOverride (
15:00 cybernol nobody knows howto config RTE for right colum ?
15:09 cybernol is anyone alive ?
15:11 FloLeBlanc don't know if it is possible to customize the RTE just for the RIGHT column though
15:14 cybernol well I can read german but i'm not german speaking
15:14 cybernol but where to find (datenwolken)
15:15 FloLeBlanc http://www.datenwolken.de/index.php?id=198
15:18 cybernol thanks ofr the info
15:39 umc anyone knows where do I have to configure in typo3 so it would know where to look for extensions ?
15:40 umc I went in the extension manager, to Import extensions, and typed the extension in the "List or look up reviewed extensions" input, but nothing shows up when I click on "Look up"
15:59 cybernol umc did you try no name and than list ?
16:15 Denyerec Oh geez
16:15 Denyerec I've been putting off installing DirectMail for 3 weeks now.
16:15 Denyerec :/
16:21 Jigal Denyerec: no time like now ;-P
16:22 umc cybernol, thanks, that worked
16:22 umc Denyerec, did you manage to get directmail running ?
16:24 Denyerec I've been putting off installing DirectMail for 3 weeks now. <--- no
16:24 Denyerec going to have a proper crack at it now
16:25 cybernol umc I think you need to change the reviewed setting to all
16:27 umc cybernol, this is fine too... it's good that it works somehow...
16:32 mikhas Hi #type3 :) How would you go on about copying content from one typo3-site to another? Exporting list-elements f.ex.?
16:35 ebel[work] Is there any documentation on moving a site from one hosting provider to another?
16:36 mikhas ebel[work]: I would tar.gz the site and dump the database, that should be it.
16:37 ebel[work] 'the site' do you mean all the files incl typo3 source on the old machine?
16:37 mikhas yeah. a recursive zipping, so to speak. :)
16:39 ebel[work] Is there anyway to do that from the typo3 admin page, or would I need some form of shell / ftp access?
16:40 mikhas it's definitely a shell-thing imho.
16:40 mikhas it's doable via ftp-access (obviously not tar.gz-ing but copying)
16:48 Denyerec my FCE's always have a space for a header...
16:48 Denyerec I like to put a header in so the element is not nameless, BUT, I don't want the header rendered in my FCE
16:49 Denyerec How do I ensure it does not get rendered ?
16:50 ries Denyerec: display:none; :D
16:50 Denyerec lol
16:50 Denyerec you know that's not appropriate :)
16:51 Denyerec I'm certain someone in here was fiddling with this exact thing
16:51 Denyerec I just don't remember who
16:51 ries Denyerec: you asked a programmer.... ;) hehehehe
16:51 ries Denyerec: check the XML of teh FCE, may be there is something in there... cannot remember thoiugh
16:51 Denyerec it was fummeltrine
16:52 Denyerec and I don't remember if he cracked it or not
16:54 umc hm... I added a user group in my storage folder, and created a user... added a login form in one page, and tried to login... but it doesn't work... anyone knows why ?
16:57 Denyerec YOu know how to remove the title attrib from an FCE? :)
16:58 umc I created a FCE... but I didn't care about the title...
16:58 umc you mean the ones created with templa voila ?
17:00 umc the only FCE I created was one that had 2 rows and 3 columns, and you could create content in there...
17:00 Denyerec yeah well I have a 2 column FCE, and when you add it to a page you can set a title on it
17:00 Denyerec which renders out
17:00 Denyerec and I want to be able to set the title (For internal reasons) but not render it.
17:01 umc hm... I have the header, but it doesn't get rendered...
17:02 Denyerec howd you manage that"! ? :)
17:03 umc when I edit the FCE, in that form, I have: Type - Flexible content, Header - <I can put whatever in here>, Data structure - 6 pack content, Template Object - 6 pack content and then the content...
17:03 umc but the header is not displayed anywhere
17:04 umc if I go to the templavoila module, and check the page where they're all stored, if I go to update mapping, I see all the parts
17:04 umc and I only have ROOT
17:04 umc and one part for each of those content areas
17:04 umc 6 in my case
17:04 umc that's all I have mapped
17:05 umc it's just 6 divs in one html...
17:06 umc the html looks like this... http://pastebin.ca/746838
17:07 umc and each of those content holders is mapped as an element, the editing type set to content elements
17:07 umc and they're mapped to the divs with the images
17:07 umc that's all I did...
17:08 umc am I making any sense Denyerec ? :)
17:12 Denyerec Hmmm
17:12 Denyerec When I enter a header in my FCE's it renders out like a standard CE header!
17:14 umc for my FCE, I don't have a link to create a copy for translation
17:14 umc I just set Language to all
17:14 umc and the content elements that I create inside it, for those I create copies for translation
17:15 umc maybe the header is not displayed anywhere because is not assigned to any language ? heck knows...
17:15 umc did you add your header as a part of the mapping ?
17:15 umc cause I didn't
17:15 umc I only added those 6 content elements...
17:16 umc as I remember, you can also add an element header...
17:16 umc but I didn't
17:17 Denyerec No I did not map a header
17:17 Denyerec It's just a default
17:17 umc well... I don't know why it doesn't show on my pages
17:17 umc I don't want it either
17:17 Denyerec I wish I did!!
17:17 umc just the 6 places where I can add pictures with links behind them
17:20 umc I just checked with web developer... it doesn't generate any html for the header...
17:22 Denyerec Mine does, I swear to you!
17:22 umc I belive you man...
17:22 umc I don't know why it does that though...
17:23 Denyerec actually
17:23 Denyerec dude
17:23 Denyerec I think it was a versioning thing...
17:23 Denyerec cos the site I'm working on does it
17:23 Denyerec but on 4.1.3 and the latest TV version, it doesn't.
17:24 umc if it helps you, I can give you my data structure xml...
17:24 umc I think I got the latest version of templa voila
17:24 Denyerec Seems like this "feature" has been paid some attention in the latest versions.
17:24 Denyerec Only the old one seems to output the header field.
17:24 Denyerec Well that solved my problem.... Upgrade! :D
17:24 umc I've got version 1.3.3
17:25 Denyerec Hmm, translating FCE's...
17:25 umc that's a nice one... :D
17:25 Denyerec I think th strategy will be to not put any output text into the FC
17:25 Denyerec FCE
17:25 umc I just set it to show on all languages
17:25 umc and translate the actual content elements from inside...
17:25 cybernol anyone who knows howto config RTE so that the contnet right colum is affected ?
17:25 Denyerec and do everything with TSOPs and LLL translations in the Typoscript.
17:25 Denyerec Yes, and translate the FCE *content*, not the FCE framework itself
17:25 umc oh well... good luck... my worktime is over for today...
17:25 umc see ya
17:26 Denyerec Sounds a lot less painful to me ;)
17:26 Denyerec Cya umc
17:28 Denyerec hey gerards
17:29 gerards hi Denyerec. hows the afternoon treat'n you?
17:30 Denyerec I'm trying to deal with DirectMail
17:30 Denyerec and haven't worked up enough enthusiasm yet
17:30 Denyerec I distracted mself with some translation questions ;)
17:30 Denyerec How about you ?
17:31 gerards I just came home. Thankfully I've been developing my own extensions for these past 4 months, so no DirectMail for me :D
17:32 Denyerec :(
17:33 Denyerec been working on anything interesting ?
17:39 gerards some pdf generation techniques.
17:40 gerards its pretty fun. and good experience.
17:40 Denyerec ahh, continuing from the stuff ries wasworking on?
17:41 gerards exactly!
17:47 ries gerards: way the go!!!!
17:48 ries gerards: happens ... :(
17:49 gerards quiet day on the channel eh?
17:49 ries I think it's average
17:55 Denyerec I'd contribute more
17:55 Denyerec but I feel guilty about trying to hide from DirectMail
18:34 MessenJah hi everyone
18:38 MessenJah does anyone see my writin'?
18:39 just2b yes
18:45 MessenJah cool :)
19:12 voidus just2b: was that you? didn't you give me a link to FORM with mootools validation?
19:13 just2b yeah
19:20 voidus just2b: can you give me a link again?
19:27 just2b http://www.rggooglemap.com/dev/rgformvalidator.html
19:33 voidus just2b: didn't you release this as an extension?
19:45 just2b sure i did
19:47 voidus just2b: and the name of extension?
19:51 just2b as in the url, in the title of the page, in the title tag of the page > rgformvalidator
19:51 voidus i'm stupid, sorry
19:52 just2b yeah can happen
20:03 Tom_Roe Extreme newbie here, I've installed typo3 through cpanel, no page structure, I've uploaded quickstart but it doesn't show when I try to import the t3x file, nothing in the pulldown, any ideas?
20:05 Tom_Roe The file doc_tut_quickstart_0.0.0.t3x shows in my temp folder, but doesn't show in the pulldown so I can't import it into the page structure.
20:06 voidus Tom_Roe: .t3x is an extension's extension. data extension is .t3d
20:08 Tom_Roe Thanks for answering Voidus, I can't find any help for this on the typo3 site, so when I go to the Backend I see my site name in the Page module and nothing else
20:08 voidus that's normal
20:09 Tom_Roe The tutorial videos and docs assume I've installed the quickstart package, but cpanel didn't seem to include the basic site structure
20:09 voidus Tom_Roe: you need to create page structure, fill pages with content, write typoscript template, etc.
20:09 Tom_Roe I was hoping that I would have some example pages to experiment with that already had content
20:09 voidus Tom_Roe: quickstart is really outdated. and it is full typo3 installation, not only data
20:10 Tom_Roe Ok, so I have to start from scratch
20:10 voidus yes
20:10 Tom_Roe DOH
20:10 Tom_Roe ok, biting the bullet.
20:11 Tom_Roe how about templates, I really need some starting points there
20:12 Tom_Roe are there some templates I can install to have some that I can apply
20:12 just2b not really tom, you just need knowledge in html/css and you can use *all* you can make there
20:12 just2b it is not a joomla.. it is for real websites and real customers who don'T want their website look like 10mio others
20:15 Tom_Roe nice
20:15 Tom_Roe just2b, what do you know about 3d modeling and animation
20:15 Tom_Roe I've been doing that for 15 years, so you can imagine that I'm pretty good at it
20:16 just2b the point is?
20:16 Tom_Roe but, this css thing is new to me, so it would be nice to have at least the basic templates installed that are shown in the demo videos
20:16 num000 is someone using wurfl here?
20:16 Tom_Roe so that I can learn from them
20:16 Tom_Roe but you presume, that I should just start from a blank page
20:16 Tom_Roe if you decided to learn 3d
20:17 Tom_Roe I wouldn't through you to the wolves like that, I'd show you some demos, tutorials, and even give you some starting models to work from
20:18 Tom_Roe If I want to learn piano, do I start from a blank page, or do I learn form someone who already knows everything
20:18 Tom_Roe I read other people's music to learn how to write or play my own
20:18 just2b its like you wanna do the same as elephants dream and just downloaded a 3d programm but if you stop writing, i can stop reading, give you some urls?
20:18 Tom_Roe grin
20:18 Tom_Roe I would appreciate that
20:19 Tom_Roe Love typo3 by the way, just need some example code to get me started
20:19 just2b german ok?
20:19 Tom_Roe english would be better
20:20 just2b http://www.typo3.net/faq/div_aufgaben/content_ausgeben/
20:20 just2b http://typo3.org/documentation/document-library/tutorials/doc_tut_templselect/current/
20:20 Tom_Roe I'll check it out, thanks
20:20 just2b 1st is really simple example..
20:20 just2b http://typo3.org/documentation/document-library/tutorials/
20:21 Tom_Roe You know, it says, getting started, install the "dummy" package
20:21 Tom_Roe therein lies the rub
20:22 just2b download source+dummy, put it in the same folder and you are done
20:22 Tom_Roe Is there a way I can install the page structure of the "dummy" package without installing the dummy package
20:22 just2b as said on typo3.org >download
20:22 Tom_Roe ok
20:22 Tom_Roe I'll give it a shot.
20:22 Tom_Roe Thanks.
20:33 wacky_ Is it possible to add a content element that renders a TypoScript object ?
20:33 wacky_ or am I mixed up ?
20:34 just2b it is possible
20:34 just2b ext tscobj
20:40 tanob hello guys, i tried to use config.disableCharsetHeader=1, but it doesnt work
20:41 tanob i used it in the template record
20:44 just2b inside some {} ?
20:45 tanob no
20:45 tanob at the top, config.disableCharsetHeader=1
21:11 Denyerec What permission issue am I screwing up, if an editor is unable to delete any content elements ?
21:12 Denyerec Even ones they create themselves?
21:25 Hendrix Anyone here have experience with Typo3 and proxyservers?
21:31 Denyerec voidus - my editors cannot delete content elements
21:31 Denyerec they can create them
21:32 Denyerec but they can't delete the ones they create
21:32 Denyerec what have I screwed up in the group config?! :(
21:33 uschi_ hey Denyerec, you shan't screw up things all the time :)
21:33 Denyerec hey
21:33 Denyerec I've done SOMETHING wrong
21:33 Denyerec I've never had this problem before though
21:33 Denyerec most strange. Simply cannot delete things from the page module
21:34 Denyerec if I do it from list view it's OK
21:34 Denyerec but the page module.... nada.
21:34 voidus nada?
21:34 Denyerec Nothing.
21:34 Denyerec I wonder if it is a bug with 4.1.3
21:35 uschi_ keep me informed, i did not update yet
21:35 Denyerec Gah
21:35 Denyerec I will be back in 40 minutes
21:35 uschi_ why?
21:40 Hendrix Proxy servers anyone? =)
21:44 just2b no sry hendrix
21:48 Hendrix Too bad.
22:00 voidus Hendrix: i have some theoretic knowledge..
22:06 Hendrix voidus: Nice.
22:06 voidus Hendrix: what is your problem?
22:06 Hendrix We have sporadic reports of users having problems logging in to our typo3 based site.
22:06 Hendrix Not seeing pages as expected etc.
22:07 Hendrix I would like to set the expires date to an historic date for starters but Iäm not sure how to go about it.
22:12 num000 i installed wurfl and had wurfl2 before installed know i get an error from the cache
22:12 num000 var/www/default/cms/typo3conf/temp_CACHED_psb91a_ext_localconf.php on line 914
22:12 voidus Hendrix: do you have config.sendCacheHeaders set?
22:13 num000 now i can not use the backend anymore
22:13 num000 what can i do
22:14 Hendrix voidus: Nope. No cache headers set.
22:15 num000 can i safely delete temp_CACHED files?
22:15 Hendrix voidus: Ths us what a header looks like: http://phpfi.com/270994
22:15 voidus num000: yes
22:16 num000 but those cached temporary files are generated again
22:16 num000 when accessing it
22:16 voidus num000: yes
22:16 num000 so the error is comming again
22:16 num000 voidus what can i do?
22:16 num000 what happens if i delete the extension from disk that causes the error
22:17 voidus num000: look at that file and copy that part to pastebin
22:17 Hendrix voidus: I think setting Expires to a historic date would increase the chances of proxies leaving the pages untouched.
22:17 num000 the problem is that it is redefining an existing class obviously, i had wurlf2 and installed wurfl over it
22:18 voidus Hendrix: http://phpfi.com/270995 - quote from php manual
22:19 Denyerec I am back
22:20 num000 voidus in the file temp_CACHED_psb91a_ext_localconf.php this function is defined twice user_wurfl_getDeviceCapability(
22:20 num000 i need to remove the extension
22:20 num000 but how from a shell
22:20 num000 removing it won't help
22:20 Hendrix voidus: Yeah. Of course I could set it in one of our custom plug ins since the output to the browser is not started by then.
22:21 num000 this is really bad, the hole site is down now
22:21 voidus num000: open your localconf.php and remove unneeded keys from ext_list
22:22 num000 i've removed it from disk and deleted the cache
22:22 voidus num000: but are they still installed?
22:22 num000 and it did help
22:22 num000 no it doesn't look like it is installed
22:23 cybernol who knows to config htmlarena for a other colum than normal content ?
22:23 Denyerec voidus, uschi - I can delete records from List view and from the editing view... just not from the page module view. Very strange.
22:24 voidus Denyerec: so, it's TV problem, right?
22:25 voidus num000: removing from disk and from cache should help.. but other extension may depend on remove
22:25 voidus removed
22:25 num000 voidus how you mean?
22:25 Denyerec I guess so, because the TV Page module is the one to blame...
22:25 Denyerec *why* though, I have no idea.
22:26 num000 if for example extension a depends on b and if i remove b, will this cause problems?
22:26 Denyerec I wonder if anyone else can reproduce the issue.
22:26 num000 but wurfl doesn't depend on anything.
22:26 voidus Denyerec: afaik, i read about it somewhere..
22:27 voidus but don't remember where and how problem was solved
22:27 voidus ..as usual
22:27 Denyerec haha
22:27 num000 is anyone here who uses wurfl successfully?
22:29 voidus num000: it's "a bit" special extension. i think that probability of that anyone here used it aim to zero
22:29 num000 voidus you are probaply right.
22:36 uschi Dear friends, if I want to add some template stuff (TS) from extension, I have to define this in a file named ext_tables.php?
22:36 uschi Denyerec, voidus whosoever, to my aid!
22:37 uschi Do I have to use ext_tables.php?
22:37 Denyerec Voidus does!
22:37 uschi why are you running, Denyerec
22:37 Denyerec To escape voidus!!
22:38 Denyerec ;)
22:38 voidus uschi: depends. do you have to add it as static template or no?
22:38 uschi I would like to add it like css_styled_content
22:39 uschi voidus, I want to have two extensions
22:39 voidus uschi: so, you need to place it into .txt file
22:39 voidus and use ext_tables.php
22:39 uschi yeah, exactly, but why ext_tables.php?
22:40 uschi What has a text file to do with tables ???
22:40 uschi Well, I will do so
22:40 voidus it adds new item
22:40 voidus to the selection of templates
22:40 uschi to the select list
22:40 voidus yes
22:40 uschi that fills the table, ok
22:41 voidus t3lib_extMgm::addStaticFile($_EXTKEY,'static/ts/','CSS-based tmpl');
22:41 voidus ^^ that line
22:41 uschi yes
22:41 uschi the CSS-based tmpl is what the user sees as option?
22:42 voidus yes
22:42 uschi thx
22:42 voidus np
22:42 uschi you ARE a kicker, voidus :)
22:42 Denyerec actually, don't kick me,, kick the TV page module
22:43 uschi Denyerec what is wrong with it?
22:43 Denyerec It doesn't seem to want to let my editors delete content elements.
22:43 Denyerec I've not had this problem before, but then this is the first site I linked to 4.1.3
22:43 uschi hm, strange
22:44 uschi and you did everything as you ever did?
22:45 voidus Denyerec: i think you need to enable editor to modify some fields of page table
22:46 Denyerec on the access lists void?
22:46 Denyerec yeah Uschi - I even imported the editor group from T3D from a working site...
22:46 Denyerec I checked the page ownership and group, the groups on all pages are set to "editor" and all have full permissions.
22:47 uschi and those lovely allowed excludefields?
22:47 voidus Denyerec: so, editors can even delete pages?
22:47 Denyerec Editors can delete pages
22:47 Denyerec but, from the page module, if they try and delete a content element.... nada.
22:47 Denyerec However from the list view, or the actual CE editor view, it's fine.
22:49 voidus Denyerec: what is nada? like "dunno"? it sounds like "need" in russian
22:49 Denyerec "Nothing"
22:49 Denyerec Zip, nada, nothing.
23:24 cybernol Hi All, Have a q about special chars in GMENU like German word Höhe Flexibilität the special chars are wrong or gone How to fix that
23:28 Hendrix cybernol: Sounds like the font and the OS of the server don't have the same character encoding.
23:28 Hendrix cybernol: But I haven't used GMENU myself so I donät know.
23:29 cybernol hmm I'm not so sure its that.. Its imagemagic that gens the picture and I ask myself where to look...
23:29 voidus cybernol: do you use the font which contain such chars?
23:30 cybernol how do I see this
23:30 cybernol Right ow I tryed verdana.ttf and times.ttf one gives [] the other a blank char
23:30 voidus open ttf file with any ttf viewer
23:34 cybernol they only show the quickbrown fox
23:35 voidus they should show all symbols too
23:35 cybernol i'm on windows here :-!
23:36 voidus i'm too
23:37 voidus my viewer have 4 parts: font title, some description, all chars and some "quick brown fox" lines
23:40 cybernol well I have the same viewer but the all chars are only the alphabet and 1-9.:;()
23:40 cybernol I have many fonts from adobe and they are all the same
23:40 voidus hm..
23:41 voidus look at charmap
23:41 cybernol how
23:43 voidus win+R, charmap
23:45 cybernol Sorry don't understand this
23:46 voidus ok..
23:46 voidus start - execute - write "charmap" and press enter
23:47 cybernol yap that I got
23:48 voidus select your font and check if it has needed chars
23:49 cybernol ö
23:49 cybernol yes they are in...
23:55 brad2007 hello
23:56 brad2007 can anyone tell me why some photos show thumbnails and some not?

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