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00:01 voidus ThePianist: yes
00:02 ThePianist I have a desciption in German, from a swiss site, not so sure how to create a site strukture
00:04 ThePianist there are different versions of templavoila, which one should I use
00:05 ThePianist sorry, I just got into all this ... newbie syndrom, asking too many questions ....
00:06 xsebi there are lots of faq on typo3 org , u find many answers there
00:14 Denyerec The easy answer Pianist is "The latest one"
00:15 ThePianist I'll just try and error, thanks
00:19 ThePianist ok, I want to create a new site structure, right now there is a page loaded
00:20 ThePianist New Typo3 site, right click and new?
00:21 voidus yes
00:21 ThePianist oh i see now, New Record and such ....
00:35 ThePianist so frustrating: I have the manual right in front of me, how do I create a new template, I keep working with the one which is loaded my default
00:36 ThePianist it says using the template wizard, but it does not say how to get to this function, I must be blind!!!
00:38 xsebi|afk what kind of template u use ?
00:38 ThePianist I am confused, I am looking at "New Typo3 Site" it shows some template. I want to close it and create my own site structure
00:39 ThePianist right click, new, fine, it does not close the template that is loaded, it adds pages
00:40 xsebi|afk u realy should get some base knowledge else it will just get u in bad moods
00:41 Denyerec ThePianist - which timezone are you in
00:41 ThePianist I am trying, but i don't understand the instructions in the manual, this is typicall BS technical writing
00:41 ThePianist GMT, houston
00:42 ThePianist ?
00:42 Denyerec i'm off to bed right now, but if you're around tomorrow I'll be able to help you with the basics
00:42 Denyerec if you're GMT then it's 2345hrs for you too
00:42 ThePianist that would be nice
00:42 Denyerec There's a tutorial called "Futuristic Template Building"
00:43 Denyerec which you may want to read through
00:43 ThePianist nope, it is 5:46 PM
00:43 ThePianist ok, I'll have a look at this
00:43 Denyerec Then how can you be in GMT...
00:43 Denyerec That's Greenwich MeanTime, where I am :)
00:43 ThePianist maybe it's CMT
00:43 xsebi|afk id start with first functions anyway , u wont be able to template if u even dont get a funtcion to make just a sinlge page :P
00:43 Denyerec Central
00:44 ThePianist oy, General Mountain Time!?? LOL see how confused I am meanwhile
00:44 Denyerec haha
00:44 Denyerec Pianist it normally goes like this:
00:44 ThePianist I have a Mean TIme too
00:44 Denyerec Install Typo3 -> Create 1 page -> select page -> Click template module -> Click "Create new template"
00:45 Denyerec Do not use the built in ones
00:45 Denyerec You should then get the screen with the 6 pencisl.
00:45 Denyerec *pencils
00:45 Denyerec From here, you can follow the Futuristic Template Building tutorial
00:45 ThePianist lemme see
00:45 Denyerec At least to about halfway anyway, as it goes a bit mad in the later stages
00:46 ThePianist ok, tools, install Typo3?
00:47 ThePianist I see
00:47 ThePianist 1. Basic Configuration
00:47 ThePianist 2. Database Analyser
00:47 ThePianist and so on
00:47 ThePianist no Create 1page
00:47 Denyerec nono
00:47 Denyerec SOrry you misundertand
00:48 Denyerec once you have installed typo 3
00:48 Denyerec :D
00:48 ThePianist I knew I am retarding
00:48 Denyerec You then create 1 page to begin with
00:48 ThePianist I have this on a mac, it's all installed and works fine
00:48 ThePianist So, I see the left column with all kinds of tools$shit
00:48 ThePianist aarggh
00:49 xsebi|afk backend modules
00:50 ThePianist uuuhmm, moi? Don't see that
00:50 xsebi|afk its called that
00:52 ThePianist under Web, Tools?
00:56 Denyerec Yeah those are modules.
00:56 Denyerec that's their "typo" name.
00:56 ThePianist ok, I was looking for an option "backend modules"
00:57 ThePianist so, I am online again, LOL
00:57 Denyerec I think you need to step away, get some sleep, and attack it tomorrow ;)
00:57 Denyerec Like I am about to do
00:57 Denyerec Goodnight gents.
00:57 xsebi|afk me too n8
00:57 ThePianist ok, good night, I'll try until I am completley pissed
01:07 mayeco XY = [42.w]+40,20
01:08 mayeco what means -> [42.w]+
01:08 mayeco in a GMENU
01:08 ThePianist ??
01:08 ThePianist random
01:08 mayeco I dont know
01:09 mayeco is the size
01:09 voidus mayeco: width of .42 object
01:09 mayeco but why 2 things
01:09 mayeco mmm I dont understand
01:10 mayeco voidus: I want to make a GMENU with a full size 500px and all menus with fixed size
01:11 mayeco example npx "Home" and "About us" more that home
01:11 mayeco not all with the same size and not more that 500
01:11 mayeco get it voidus?
01:14 mayeco voidus: http://www.gopanamaonline.com/es/inicio/
01:15 voidus mayeco: so, make XY = 100,20 or so
01:16 mayeco wait
01:16 mayeco refresh the page
01:17 mayeco voidus: refresh the page
01:18 voidus refreshed..
01:18 mayeco voidus: see that the menu dont work
01:18 mayeco some parts dont fit
01:19 voidus make it a bit wider?
01:20 mayeco dont get it.. :S
01:21 voidus increase value in "XY = 100,20" from 100 to 120..
01:21 voidus or so.
01:21 mayeco see it
01:21 mayeco the problem is that can't be more that 500
01:22 mayeco all must fit in 500px
01:23 mayeco voidus: get it...
01:27 mayeco i can belive that this is imposible :)
01:27 mayeco can't...
02:18 ThePianist hi there again! :-)
02:49 mayeco_ voidus: refresh the page!!!
02:49 mayeco_ xD
02:50 voidus mayeco_: btw, it's not very fine in FF..
02:50 mayeco_ voidus: what is FF?
02:51 voidus mayeco_: firefox
02:52 mayeco mmmm I have it to
02:52 mayeco Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; es-ES; rv:1.8.1.8) Gecko/20071022 Ubuntu/7.10 (gutsy) Firefox/2.0.0.8
02:52 mayeco what version do you use?
02:53 ThePianist ok, I manged to import a t3d file, now: I would like to make some changes in the layout of the menu. For instances, in one subdirectory is a page, that I would like to have as root. Would I need to changed the ids or simply move this page up and make it root?
02:53 voidus mayeco: ah.. it's just a bit strange design :)
02:53 voidus sorry
02:54 ThePianist make it root = mount as treeroot
02:54 mayeco xD
02:54 mayeco ahhh
03:00 ThePianist Hello?
03:28 ThePianist guess you are watching Sesame St now
03:30 voidus ThePianist: where are you from? :)
03:32 ThePianist LoL, Germany
03:33 ThePianist why?
03:34 voidus ThePianist: it's midnight now in germany :)
03:34 voidus 3:37, right?
03:34 ThePianist oh now, I am in Houston, TX, US
03:35 ThePianist oh no
03:35 ThePianist , mpf
03:35 ThePianist where are you?
03:35 voidus Russia
03:35 ThePianist eta noche??
03:35 voidus ThePianist: most people here from europe, and they often sleep at night :)
03:36 voidus ThePianist: what?
03:36 ThePianist That's russian for is it night? in latin type
03:37 ThePianist never mind
03:37 ThePianist I thought typo is a European thing
03:38 ThePianist I has a weird meaning in English, for something that good, almost a paradox
03:38 voidus ThePianist: yes.. but not "noche", just "noch".
03:39 ThePianist uhmm, must be ukrainian maybe? I know only a little russian, sorry
03:39 voidus it's strange that you know anything on such unpopular language :)
03:40 ThePianist it's popular in Ukraine!
03:40 voidus yes, but not worldwide..
03:41 ThePianist same for German or Italian
03:42 ThePianist I was just 4 weeks in Kiev
03:43 ThePianist we have many Russians here, they all work for NASA
03:44 voidus really? hm..
03:47 ThePianist So, I am trying to figure this out. I have a pagetree, and only root shows me some information about an signed template. The sub pages don't
03:47 ThePianist but in page view it looks all ok
03:48 voidus ThePianist: template is inherited..
03:48 ThePianist now, how can I asign a certain layout to a different page?
03:48 voidus using TV or not?
03:48 ThePianist templavoila? No!
03:49 voidus so, create another template for this page
03:50 ThePianist k, I select it and goto Template => template tools on the right -says no template, what should I do here?
03:50 voidus create one..
03:51 ThePianist From this drop down menu?
03:51 voidus no
03:51 voidus press the button..
03:52 ThePianist like "Create a shortcut to this page"?
03:53 ThePianist or create extension template?
03:54 voidus not extension.. create a template for new site.
03:54 ThePianist ok, did that
03:57 ThePianist and now the crucial constants?
04:02 ThePianist nope, didn
04:02 ThePianist 't do it
04:06 num000 anyone still awake
04:06 num000 voidus you are definately not sleeping
04:06 num000 ;-)
04:07 ThePianist hi
04:07 voidus num000: maza***, 6 o'clock
04:07 num000 i know
04:07 voidus num000: thnx, i'll go to sleep)
04:07 num000 god guy, go to bed, you need your sleep
04:07 num000 hi ThePianist
04:07 ThePianist num000:Hi
04:08 ThePianist I am new to this, all chinese ...
04:08 num000 chinese? i don't know chinese ;)
04:08 ThePianist I imported a template tree and I am trying to make changes
04:08 ThePianist neither do I
04:08 num000 lets try english
04:08 ThePianist where are you, location wise
04:09 num000 germany
04:09 ThePianist dann koennen wir auch deutsch chatten, bin in Houston, US
04:09 ThePianist Guten Morgen!
04:09 num000 wenn die anderen nichts dagegen haben
04:09 ThePianist ist ja sonst keiner hier
04:09 num000 wer weiss, die liste is voll
04:10 num000 du kannst auch ein query aufmachen
04:10 ThePianist ok, I don't care
04:10 num000 wenn ich dir ueberhaupt helfen kann
04:10 ThePianist ich bin total neu hier, von nix ne Ahnung
04:11 num000 wo liegt denn das problem?
04:11 ThePianist also, ich habe das mulitflex template von rasi.ch importiert
04:11 ThePianist schon mal gelungen, keuch
04:12 ThePianist das template bietet verschiedene layouts an
04:13 ThePianist Ich sehe da also root/Seiten Layouts/Layout 2 und ebendieses moechte ich als root haben, index oder wie auch immer das genannt wird
04:13 ThePianist in template tool wird mir nur fuer root was angezeigt, alles Andere ist leer.
04:13 ThePianist Genau wie mein Kopf
04:14 num000 ich kenne diese extention nicht, aber dann ist es moeglich, dass die dazugehoerigen dateien als resourcen eingelegt wurden
04:14 num000 aber, so viel bietet dir dieses paket nicht, lohnt sich nicht
04:14 num000 kannst du html und css?
04:14 ThePianist klar
04:14 num000 ok
04:14 num000 dann legt dir eine html seite an
04:15 num000 gestallte sie nach deinen wuenschen
04:15 ThePianist ok
04:15 num000 ganz einfach so als wuerdest du sie einsetzen wollen
04:15 num000 dann bindest du sie als design vorlage in t3 ein
04:15 num000 und gehst schritt fuer schritt vor
04:15 num000 so slernst du am einfachsten spielerisch
04:15 ThePianist hab ich schon gemacht, im prinzip will ich eine bereits ngefange web seite mit Typo3 weiterfuehren
04:16 num000 es gibt sehr viel dokumentation zu t3
04:16 num000 z.b. die seiten aus typo3.org
04:16 num000 das tutorial ist ganz gut
04:17 num000 du benutzt deine html seite als designvorlage, passt ###MARKER### an die stellen, die dynamisch erstezt werden sollen
04:17 ThePianist ich hab das Getting Started Manual,
04:17 ThePianist verstehe
04:18 ThePianist ja halt, kann das Teil dann von Search Engines gefunden werden?
04:18 num000 warum nicht
04:18 num000 suchmaschinen suchen nach woertern
04:18 num000 diese stehen doch in deinen seiten, wenn du damit die url meinst
04:18 ThePianist ich denke die wuerden nur die Marker sehen
04:18 num000 ist das auch kein problem, du kannst rewrite rules nehmen
04:18 num000 neee
04:18 num000 tun sie nicht
04:18 num000 die marker erscheinen dochgar nicht mehr
04:19 ThePianist ja weiss ich auch nicht
04:19 num000 du musst das zeug lesen
04:19 ThePianist ich glaub auch
04:19 num000 ###HIERWIRDETWASANDERESSPAETERSTEHEN### = blabla blalbal
04:19 ThePianist habs ja vor mir liegen, bin aber einfach zu ungeduldig
04:20 num000 t3 ist nicht trivial, aber extrem flexibel und sehr elegant
04:20 num000 und viel lesen
04:20 num000 noch mehr lesen und probieren
04:20 ThePianist das hab ich allerdings schon erkannt
04:21 ThePianist in welcher Stadt bist du ?
04:21 num000 braunschweig
04:21 ThePianist Kenn ich, sehr schoen da
04:22 num000 woher bist du den urspruenglich?
04:22 num000 was machst du denn bei mr. bush?
04:23 ThePianist schwierige Frage: Urspruenglich aus der Naehe von Muenchen, dann einige Jahre Italien, ..., und Bush, nun ja, .... der Rest ist Schweigen
04:23 num000 schweigen?
04:23 num000 achso du bist vom nachrichtendienst
04:24 num000 sag es doch gleich
04:24 ThePianist ne Du, ich bin Kuenstler, hi hi
04:25 ThePianist ich seh nur noch rot
04:25 num000 warum?
04:25 ThePianist trypo.org. tutorials
04:25 num000 achso
04:26 ThePianist brauch ich templaVoila?
04:26 num000 hab ich noch nie mit gearbeitet, soll ganz gut sein
04:27 ThePianist wie ich das hasse, muss ich erst noch nen Dr in typo machen damit ich damit arbeiten kann!??!
04:27 ThePianist Typo heisst hier uebrigens Tippfehler
04:27 num000 du bist aber sehr ungeduldig
04:27 ThePianist das kann ich Dir sagen!
04:27 num000 ja bei den amerikanern ist alles etwas anders
04:28 ThePianist Die Briten wuerden das auch so verstehen, auf sowas koennen auch nur Schweden kommen, he he
04:30 ThePianist also ok, das Teil ist so eingerichtet, dass saemtliche Seiten dem root template folgen
04:31 ThePianist wo aber ist die info versteckt, das Seite 4 im Submenu anders aussieht, als Seite 5, und dies selsbt wenn ich die Seite an eine andere Stelle schiebe. Hat das was mit der ID zu tun?
04:32 num000 jede seite hat eine id, sie bleibt die gleiche egal wohin du die seite verschiebst.
04:32 num000 der inhalt der seite sieht anders aus?
04:32 ThePianist koenne mehrere gleiche IDs vergeben sein?
04:32 num000 nein
04:33 ThePianist Nein, die Seite veraendert sich inhaltlich nicht
04:33 num000 wie?
04:33 num000 die id's kannst du sehen, indem du einfach mit der maus drauf faehst im BE
04:33 ThePianist weiss ich
04:33 num000 auf das seitenicon gehen
04:34 ThePianist nun wenn Root ID 20 hat, und irgendeine andere Seite hat die ID 25, kann ich root die ID 25 zuweisen damit sie genauso aussieht? Bloede frage, vielleicht .... keine Ahnung
04:35 num000 ich verstehe nicht was du vor hast. warum sollte die seite mit id 20 und 25 anders aussehen?
04:35 num000 was hast du denn vor?
04:35 ThePianist ok, anders gefragt, is einer bestimmten ID ein bestimmtes Design zugewiesen?
04:36 num000 in deinem typoscript sagst du welche designvorlage du generell zuordnen willst
04:36 num000 wenn die darunterliegenden seiten keine andere anweisung haben, bleiben alle mit dieser designvorlage gleich
04:36 ThePianist ok, so wie eine Druckformatvorlage in Word?
04:36 num000 kenne ich nicht
04:37 ThePianist muss ich da an constants.txt was aendern?
04:37 num000 was willst du denn da aendern?
04:38 num000 warum machst du nicht einfach das abeispiel aus der dokumentation nach?
04:38 ThePianist das ist ja meine Frage
04:38 ThePianist weil ich schon eine Seite habe, die ich umbauen will
04:39 ThePianist usserdem habe ich ein anderes Template eingebaut, wurschtel hier an einem Mac rum
04:41 ThePianist nochmal: Ich habe 5 verschiedene Seiten in einem unterverzeichnis. Woher weiss T3 wie jede einzelne auszusehen hat, die haben alle verschiedene Designs, unter Page Properties ist nichts zu finden
04:43 ThePianist ich glaub mir daemmerts, das kommt ueber ne CSS file rein.
04:44 ThePianist jetzt verate mir bitte, wie ich CSS info anschauen/berbeiten kann!!!
04:45 num000 ich verstehe dich meist nicht, daher kann ich dir nicht helfen
04:45 num000 was bedetet css info anschauen?
04:46 num000 es gibt ein tool fuer dein firefox, mitdem du in echtzeit css befehle ansehen kannst
04:46 num000 das nennt sich firebug
04:46 ThePianist css style sheet, schrift farbe bla bla bla, wie ruf ich das in Typo auf
04:46 num000 oder developer tools
04:46 num000 wie hast du sie denn eingebunden?
04:46 ThePianist external links
04:46 num000 Web->Files
04:46 num000 css datei auswaehlen
04:47 num000 auf den icon klicken
04:47 num000 bearbeiten
04:47 ThePianist hab ich gar nicht
04:47 num000 was hat du nicht?
04:47 num000 web->files
04:48 num000 entschuldige
04:48 num000 files->filelist
04:48 ThePianist ja, ich sehs
04:48 ThePianist aber da gibts nix zu machen, muss wohl dreamweaver her
04:49 num000 wie hast du sie eingebunden?
04:49 ThePianist die sind verlinkt
04:49 num000 paste mal das zugehoerige ts
04:49 ThePianist hae?
04:49 ThePianist was ist ein TS
04:50 num000 ts ist typoscript
04:50 num000 mach das beispiel
05:00 ThePianist geht nicht
05:04 ThePianist jetzt zeigt mir die Seite, an der ich rumspiele, oben links 'Hello World" an, das ganze Design ist verschwunden
05:09 ThePianist ok, what in the world means mape not configured - in realtime please
05:18 ThePianist anyone here??
05:28 ThePianist how can I delete a root directory
05:37 ThePianist k, thanks, I figured it out
06:07 d|g hi all
06:07 xsebi lo
06:28 jsfan hi everybody :)
06:33 just2b godd morning
06:49 jsfan hi just2b
07:12 tsrepadmin good morning #typo3!!!
07:13 just2b hi tsrepadmin and good bye... need to leave for work and no irc there :(
07:13 tsrepadmin poor boy :-)
09:31 pulponair hi dudes
09:48 m0oman moo!
10:35 michaelbakonyi hi
10:37 michaelbakonyi I wonder if it's possible to add a value to e.g. register:totalwidth
10:37 michaelbakonyi is that possible?
10:44 h01ger hi. (i'm using 4.1.2) - (how) can i mix the new(+great) realurl autoconf feature with manual configuration? tt_news is not detected correctly...
10:59 alexwx helo
11:01 alexwx i am using two languages with L param, modern style, and i use the search, but in the english search as L=1 the header in the result is in deutsch but the description not... where should be the prbolem?
11:36 elbart hiho
11:36 elbart hello :)
12:40 tobi2 good afternoon #typo3
12:48 elbart hi tobi2
13:09 Phlogi hehe finally compiz is working
13:10 Denyerec compiz ?
13:59 banban i'm using rgtabs - when the page is realoaded inside second tab it jumps to first tab - is there any possibility the page to stay on second tab when it is reloaded? thanks for anay help!!!
14:02 just2b banban you can say in flexforms which field is shown on default
14:04 banban just2b: hmmm - i'm not sure that solves the problem out - i would like first tab to be default, but when using second one one want to stay on second when some plugin/application realods page...
14:05 just2b impossible
14:05 just2b or you make some js tricks maybe
14:06 banban aha okey thanks!
14:25 mar77i hi... I'm somehow stuck with typoscript. who's on?
14:25 just2b 66 users are on
14:26 mar77i I know, afk is no excuse for idling
14:26 just2b should we all yell if somebody comes in?
14:27 mar77i it well might be too much honor. no, what I am looking for is I want to pass the current page id to a hmenu wrap with insertData...
14:28 just2b {field: pid} and you get the id
14:28 mar77i brb
14:31 mar77i re
14:31 mar77i no
14:31 just2b witzhout the space character
14:37 mar77i exactly. and it cannot be {field:___} for there somehow is no {field:___} outside of TMENU...
14:38 mar77i It's on the HMENU.wrap I want to pass this id...
14:38 just2b and you dont wana share your code, right?
14:39 mar77i http://www.miraclesalad.com/webtools/clip.php?clip=e8f
14:40 just2b use stdWrap.wrap
14:40 mar77i oh no, lol
14:41 mar77i I was going for that... :-)
14:42 mar77i thx
14:43 mar77i and insertData is inside stdWrap.wrap. or is it just stdWrap.?
14:45 mar77i oh found it on tsref ;-). bye
14:45 just2b rofl
14:45 just2b idiot
14:45 Fanty haha
14:45 just2b yeah not?
14:59 Denyerec I have a problem with step 7 of setting up sf_user_reg
14:59 Denyerec http://typo3.org/documentation/document-library/extension-manuals/sr_feuser_register/2.5.8/view/1/4/
15:00 Denyerec It says to set access restrictions, but doesn't say WHAT to set them to
15:00 Denyerec can anyone advise?
15:00 just2b with what?
15:01 Denyerec Step 7 of the above URL
15:01 Denyerec as in, what group to set the access to.
15:01 just2b fe user group
15:01 Denyerec but which one...
15:01 Denyerec te manual dictates I create two
15:02 Denyerec one for pre-confirmation
15:02 Denyerec the other for post-confirmation
15:02 just2b i would just set it to general
15:18 ThePianist I cannot log on to my Typo3 program, WTF?
15:20 just2b 1st it is no program, 2nd: error msgs are helpful, 3rd: wtf is no errormsg
15:21 ThePianist LOL
15:21 ThePianist well, program or editor whatever
15:22 ThePianist you have the login screen at index.php - it asks me for username and password and won't accept my input
15:22 xsebi its a cms made of huge php arrays : )
15:22 ThePianist wtf is a statusmessge
15:23 ThePianist dudes and dudettes, Ii can be made of chocolate if it works
15:24 ThePianist what is this login for, when I can go into Finder and delete the whole thing, doesn't make sense to me
15:24 ThePianist first I need to logon to my computer, than into my server program and then into typo, I don't have Fort Knox here :-)
15:24 thee I have a problem getting multiple language to work, I followed Kaspers tutorial but my site won't display any alternative language
15:25 thee I have the interface working where I can choose lanugage in frontend
15:25 ThePianist sorry, can't help, I am in a beginner's state whereas I'll be happy to get a site done at all
15:26 just2b ThePianist not all websites are on your localhost
15:26 just2b so your login worked once?
15:26 thee it alters the URL like index.php?id=248&L=0 etc.
15:26 just2b thee the question is missing
15:26 thee but when it change to index.php?id=248&L=3 it should display the content in english
15:27 just2b but.... ?
15:27 xsebi u need to fill it in in english before , it doesnt translate it automatically .. maybe its that ?
15:28 just2b xsebi it is usesless to answer if there is no question
15:28 ThePianist I worked with this yesterday, until my eyes were crossed. I remember seeing a yellow box with some passowrd message and ignonred it
15:28 thee How do you mean? I have the content wirtten in two languages
15:28 just2b ThePianist this should be no problem
15:28 just2b thee what is the question?
15:28 ThePianist so it should be admin and typo3
15:28 just2b no it should be what you set it
15:28 thee I can't get the site to display the content in an alternative language
15:29 just2b default is I guess admin / password?
15:29 just2b thee > your ts is wrong
15:29 thee I have followed this tutorial http://typo3.org/documentation/tips-tricks/multi-language-sites-in-typo3/
15:29 ThePianist default is admin / typo3 -I have a version for OS X
15:30 just2b thee not good enough i guess?
15:30 just2b ThePianist you could crewate another user in install tool, step 2
15:30 ThePianist hold on, actually admin / password worked, I just tried it!!
15:30 just2b rofl
15:30 ThePianist Got the panics that early
15:31 ThePianist I am rofling too
15:31 just2b rofl, heart attack is now 5 years earlier?`;)
15:31 ThePianist just got out of my bed, caffeine hasn't kicked in, but anxiety
15:31 just2b whats your time?
15:32 ThePianist 8:35
15:32 just2b hehe... 15:36 here
15:33 ThePianist Germany?
15:34 just2b austria
15:34 ThePianist Denyerec lives in Greenwich, further up or north
15:34 Denyerec No, simply on that meridian.
15:34 ThePianist or down, gosh, need more caffeine
15:34 ThePianist AUSTRIA, how nice!! Salzburg, Vienna??
15:35 just2b in the middle of both, linz
15:35 just2b and you?
15:36 ThePianist I am from Munich, but stranded in Houston, TX
15:36 just2b ah cool, i like the us
15:36 thee nope probably not, When I read through the typo3 mailing list I seem to have solved the part that everyone asks about (flag selection). But I've missed the fundamental part.
15:37 ThePianist I almost moved to New Orleans 3 years ago, there it is/was really cool
15:38 Denyerec I like americans... just not their politics or politicians :)
15:38 ThePianist This xchat is sooooo helpful, I joined some other channels as well
15:39 just2b Denyerec you know 3 poloiticians max and them you dont like.. so what
15:39 ThePianist YES, I am American too, and I want to make it clear that more or less 60% don't follow our politicians anymore
15:40 just2b ThePianist everyone who has got some intelligence knows that...
15:40 Denyerec Weird isn't it, that the majority now doesn't want the rulers, yet the rulers still rule... Always thought that facet of democracy was pretty hillarious.
15:40 ThePianist it's very simply. Almost eveyrone with a better/higher education is a democrat
15:40 ThePianist well, it's corrupted, very much
15:40 just2b Denyerec if the people could decide every day it wouldnt make sense
15:40 Denyerec True
15:40 Denyerec we'd be changing them weekly ;)
15:40 ThePianist I know
15:41 ThePianist things aren't much better anywhere else in the world
15:41 Denyerec But I wonder if some kind of half-time referendum might be a worthwhile thing.
15:41 just2b Denyerec no because elections need time too
15:42 ThePianist well, the good thing is, one can only be for 2 times president, we had 12 years Kohl in Germany, (or more) until he was rotten
15:42 Denyerec might have saved the lives of >500,000 innocent people though :(
15:42 ThePianist Denyerec, U in UK?
15:42 Denyerec yes
15:43 ThePianist how is the new one doin' ?
15:43 Denyerec terribly
15:43 Denyerec he's still stuck up Bush's ass
15:43 just2b ^^
15:43 ThePianist is Haider still on?
15:44 kreegee nope
15:44 just2b he plays just a small role...
15:44 just2b but everyone knows him.. but relax ;)
15:44 ThePianist missed that one, who's the prime of Austria then?
15:44 just2b fischer
15:44 ThePianist Haider is a freak
15:44 just2b SPÖ
15:45 ThePianist k
15:45 kreegee different question: what's the best way to put magazine articles on a webpage with typo3? tt_news? a page for each article (would be difficult to make tagclouds and comments, i guess)?
15:45 kreegee tt_news seems ok, but the backend-editor doesn't look very flexible
15:46 just2b what is not flexible?
15:46 ThePianist I would choose a PDF if you can scan them. Should be defined as orginal source, just a thought
15:47 just2b pdf, what?
15:47 kreegee pdf is too old media ;)
15:47 kreegee just2b: it doesn't look i can link the author to a certain page
15:47 kreegee only email
15:47 just2b kreegee you can extend tt news
15:47 kreegee we have a staff of editors, and guest editors
15:47 kreegee guest editors would only have names
15:47 ThePianist what's better than PDF
15:48 kreegee staff editors have a abrevation and a personal page
15:48 kreegee just2b: ok
15:48 kreegee so tt_news is the way-to-do-way for this?
15:48 kreegee ThePianist: it's not really userfriendly
15:49 kreegee we already have the whole magazine as a pdf
15:49 ThePianist tt news
15:49 kreegee but for browsing through the archive, commentic, tagging etc. pdf isn't really suitable
15:49 kreegee ok
15:49 kreegee thx
15:49 just2b yeah tt news is certainly ok
15:49 just2b pdf is a wrong way, it is not html, so forget it
15:49 ThePianist argh, I was trying to google this up
15:49 ThePianist what is that? LOL
15:50 kreegee there's like a thousend extentions for articles, but tt_news seems the only really maintained
15:50 kreegee http://typo3.org/documentation/document-library/extension-manuals/tt_news/2.5.0/view/
15:50 ThePianist oh, I thought you wanted to deal with printed media nd post it online
15:50 kreegee no
15:50 kreegee well
15:50 kreegee kind of
15:50 just2b you can still make pdfs out of it
15:50 kreegee but only content, not media
15:51 kreegee näh, pdfs suck
15:51 kreegee if we have pdfs, they have to have the original layout
15:51 ThePianist cannot copy and paste from X11 to OS X, that sucks ...
15:51 just2b lol
15:51 just2b i am writing an extension which ports things into indesign, lol
15:51 kreegee hehe
15:51 kreegee i might be interested in the reverse ;)
15:51 just2b no chance
15:52 ThePianist I work with scribus
15:52 kreegee well, if i find some free time, i'll do something which extracts the according pages of an article from the magazin-pdf and links it on the html-article
15:52 kreegee souldn't be tooo hard
15:53 ThePianist I dislike the whole Adobe strategy, after they bought Macromedia, I am done
15:53 kreegee well, for a lot of things, theres no choice
15:53 ThePianist yes, there is
15:54 just2b hehe yes > ERP > typo3 > indesign > print 250 pages catalog
15:55 kreegee tt_news has rte, right?
15:55 just2b yes
15:57 ThePianist scribus can't do this?
15:58 ThePianist what do like more Quark or InDesign? I like scribus because I am cheap and don't see the point of buying software while there is so much free stuff out there. I rather support the open source community
15:59 just2b this is a real big company, so no chance
16:00 ThePianist Hey, think outside the box!
16:00 mar77i yee haw...
16:01 ThePianist howdy
16:01 mar77i how could I have typo3 output the menu in all languages on one page?
16:02 ThePianist Gimpshop, Inkscape, Quanta, Bluefish, Blender, ..., it's sad that most creative pros don't know about this. They learn at School Adobe, like there wouldn't be anything else - and that's what I don't like
16:02 just2b you have no clue what i am talking about ;)
16:03 mar77i rofl. by using TMENU objects :-p...
16:03 ThePianist meinste?
16:03 just2b yes
16:03 ThePianist explain
16:04 just2b this is a so big company (cant tell any numbers) which doesn't trust open source much.. and we are lucky to use typo3, but e.g. we cant take mysql, need to be mssql.. ;)
16:04 kv0s Hi!
16:05 kv0s Is there any chance to use FE-User(Login) to login into a beuser-account?
16:05 ThePianist who is a big company? Adobe?
16:05 ThePianist Why not Quark?
16:06 just2b our company
16:06 voidus kv0s: no
16:06 mar77i @thepianist: as you know, there's that language configuration (as explained on this page: http://www.typo3forum.net/forum/typo3-4-x-fragen-und-probleme/13179-typoscript-conditions-language.html)
16:07 ThePianist no, I didn't know, lemme see ...
16:10 ThePianist hhm, are you sure you meant to address me?
16:10 ThePianist just2b: You work for Adobe, muss ichs Dir aus der Nase ziehen ;-)
16:11 uriahheep hmmm, how do i give my FCE's multi-language support?
16:11 mar77i ...to have typoscript config.language, config.sys_languageuid with [globalVar=GP:L=1] condition. but now I need to have two subsequent ts objects to be in different languages. :-)
16:12 mar77i qry?
16:13 just2b no i dont
16:14 ThePianist I don't understand what you mean, word it less crytpic and we might be on the same page
16:16 just2b open source is a no go
16:16 kv0s voidus - hmpf. Thanks.
16:16 mar77i I need all menu data in both languages, but in the same turn. so the solution would be... oh forget it - I'm just having my eye on something...
16:17 ThePianist I guess it depends for what, if you concerned about security, well then. If you do an Illustration in Inkscape or Illustrator then why not?
16:18 ThePianist I do mostly design and branding, so I have a different view on this
16:19 just2b it is not my decision to take
16:21 mar77i so you might create a template be-user and synchronize be_users with fe_users by copying the template user's entry's options with a php script.
16:22 mar77i entries sry
16:36 wacky_ is there a function available inside PHP_SCRIPT to access the getText data types ?
16:59 wacky_ ok found it...
16:59 wacky_ it's a call to $GLOBALS['LANG']->sL('LLL:file.xml:tag', $hsc)
16:59 wacky_ it's very nice :)
17:03 uriahheep oh no..
17:03 uriahheep 1: Filesize (13.7 M) of file '/var/www/www.ceo-oec.org/html/fileadmin/video/CE0-5.wmv' exceeds limit (10.0 M). (tt_content:131:multimedia)
17:03 uriahheep how can i change this limit?
17:05 uriahheep ah, found it
17:07 wacky_ I'm having a problem with a user. When I click on 'Create a new page translation', it brings me a blank page, with nothing in it
17:07 wacky_ I guess it's some kind of permission stuff, but where should I start to look ?
17:12 uriahheep reload the fram?
17:12 uriahheep frame*
17:17 wacky_ hmm... that's not quite intuitive for content managers :)
17:18 wacky_ and it doesn't work :)
17:18 wacky_ how can I trace down those permissions ?
17:20 uriahheep :)
17:20 uriahheep i've never been too good with those permissions, honestly :S
17:23 uriahheep voidus: you around?
17:23 voidus uriahheep: yes
17:24 wacky_ Isn't there a tutorial or a howto somewhere, that explains the whole process ?! :P
17:28 Denyerec Ok so I read this from front to back: http://typo3.org/documentation/document-library/extension-manuals/tcdirectmail/1.2.1/view/toc/0/
17:28 Denyerec and NOWHERE in ther does it tell me how to actually make a new newsletter and send it out.
17:28 Denyerec ....?
17:28 wacky_ never done that
17:28 Denyerec Am I to understand that the rest of the operation of tcdirectmail is the same as directmail ?
17:29 pgammans Anyone know how to get GMENU/GIFBUILDER to render the first character of a string a differnt font size. Ie so i can have menu entries with a drop caps.
17:32 voidus pgammans: make 2 objects: the first letter and the rest..
17:35 pgammans voidus: I tried that but obvoiusly am missing something text.crop=1 give's me the first char but i can't get the rest less that first char
17:39 voidus pgammans: one second..
17:50 voidus pgammans: ok, found it. use .substring = 1
17:51 pgammans voidus: thanks! will give it a go.
18:00 Denyerec voidus - you ever used tcdirectmail
18:02 voidus Denyerec: no..
18:02 Denyerec Danm.
18:02 Denyerec elbart - you ever used tcdirectmail ?
18:02 Denyerec gerards ?
18:02 Denyerec flo ?
18:02 elbart yes i did
18:02 Denyerec Whoot!
18:03 Denyerec DO you have 5 minutes? I am receiving mails, but they're not what I expected...
18:03 elbart but i think it's currently combined together with directmail to v2.5
18:03 gerards Denyerec: on the phone.
18:03 Denyerec k g
18:03 elbart whats the prob, Denyerec ?
18:03 Denyerec elbart - you mean Directmail 2.5 is now tcdirectmail
18:04 Denyerec Well the mail I received from my system was the site frontpage... not the page that I'd actually created as the direcmail page type.
18:04 elbart i think there is a domain problem then
18:04 Denyerec I clicked my directmail page, added some content elements, then when to the Directmail module and sent a test mail,,
18:05 elbart did you map some domain records in the root?
18:06 Denyerec Ah
18:06 Denyerec Just a normal domain record?
18:06 elbart mom please
18:07 Denyerec I have one domain record, which is set to the site's normal domain. It is on the root page. Not the top node with the globe, but the root page of the site.
18:07 elbart i can remember to have the same case a year ago
18:09 elbart you can make some configuration of TCDirectmail in the EM
18:09 elbart there you can also set a domain
18:09 Denyerec Just for the root of the website?
18:09 Denyerec www.google.com
18:09 Denyerec ?
18:10 elbart without www.
18:12 Denyerec Hmm
18:12 Denyerec I set the domain, though now I don't get the test mail at all.
18:12 Denyerec Weird
18:13 elbart try it with www. :P
18:13 Denyerec Before I added it, the mail stopped working too
18:13 Denyerec I am wondering if I changed anything else by mistake.
18:14 Denyerec my newsletter page is inside a storage folder
18:14 Denyerec will that change/damage anything ?
18:15 elbart did you declare in the folder, to be contain the tcdirectmail-plugin?
18:15 elbart -be
18:15 uriahheep voidus: sorry about that... do you know how i can make translations of FCE's in my pages?
18:16 voidus uriahheep: like any other content element...
18:17 uriahheep voidus: hmm, but there isn't a "create a translation" link for my FCE's...
18:18 uriahheep or, i mean, "create a copy for translation"
18:18 voidus uriahheep: show DS XML...
18:21 kv0s Hi!
18:21 Denyerec elbart - I made the page a directmail type
18:21 Denyerec I don't know what else you mean...
18:22 elbart mhh
18:23 kv0s How can i clear frontendcache automaticly after users editing a tt_news?
18:26 Denyerec The mails are arriving, but they are always the frontpage,
18:26 Denyerec Never the actualy mailpage
18:26 Denyerec http://www.microwavemarketing.com/index.php?id=62
18:26 Denyerec That's the newsletter page.
18:34 Denyerec elbart - think it was the fact that the newsletter was a page within a sysfolder ?!?!
18:34 Denyerec When I move it onto the page tree, the email works.
18:35 elbart mhh... could be... in directmail now, you have to create a sysfolder first
18:35 elbart sry for my bad help ;)
18:46 uriahheep voidus: http://www.pastebin.ca/749319
18:54 Telis Anyone experienced a site being half translated? I get menu and navigation working together with the page title, but not the content.
18:57 uffi Telis, the content is already translated?
18:57 Telis yes
18:57 Telis but it wont show when I choose the alternative language in frontend
18:57 uschi hm
18:59 uschi i never encountered that situation
19:00 Telis I would understand it if the page title didn't show but know it does
19:00 uschi if you check the translation overview in web->info, everything looks alright there?
19:02 Telis I have two columns, the left show the default language and the right one show the alternative language
19:03 Telis Everything is green
19:05 uschi strange
19:05 Telis Another this is that the flag linked to the alternativ language is grey (dimmed). I used Kaspers language select script for this
19:06 Telis The grey color indicate that typo3 can't find an alternative language
19:06 uschi this simply means that you cannot click the language you are already in
19:06 uschi i see
19:06 uschi so not the flag of the language currently shown is dimmed but the alternative language
19:06 Telis There's a little red arrow poiting to the language in use
19:07 uschi then the content for the alternative language is not shown
19:07 uschi ok
19:07 Telis exactly
19:07 uschi what is the L-var for your alternative language?
19:07 Telis 3
19:08 uschi and in your database, are their content elements with that language?
19:08 Telis yes
19:08 uschi check in phpmyadmin
19:08 Telis oki
19:09 Denyerec ok elbart - another one for you...
19:09 Denyerec ... how can I include tt_news items in my newsletter mail? :)
19:10 Telis they use sys_language_uid 3
19:11 uschi and they are not hidden or something like this?
19:11 Telis no
19:12 Telis If I set the page contents language to ALL it shows
19:12 uschi funny
19:12 many so.
19:13 uschi somehow the page and the content do not find together
19:13 many realurl rewuires base and base breks all kinds of plugins.
19:13 many sigh
19:13 uschi sure your language setup is correct?
19:14 Telis can't be sure, but I followed Kaspers guide
19:15 uschi can you post your language config to phpfi?
19:15 Telis you mean from my ts setup?
19:15 uschi yes
19:15 Telis sure
19:16 plick hello, is ist possible to use one mysql database for severak webpages?
19:16 uschi 4 eyes sometimes see more than two
19:16 uschi yes plick
19:16 plick uschi. german?
19:16 uschi yes plick
19:16 plick can i send u a private message in german?
19:17 uschi i am not experienced with multiple domains, plick
19:19 many win 6
19:20 Telis done
19:20 Telis http://phpfi.com/271461
19:23 plick is it a problem to run typo3 with a "php safe mode-ON-server"?
19:25 uschi there are some probs with it, but it can be done
19:25 uschi do not ask me questions like this ;-)
19:26 voidus plick: it is possible, but special config required
19:26 uschi voidus, have a look at Telis language config pls.
19:27 uschi do you see a mistake?
19:27 uschi his content does not show up
19:27 uschi and i am running out of ideas
19:27 plick voidus, do i have to config on my own. or is there somethin like settings that i can load into typo3
19:28 plick sorry for this nooby questions but i'm starting with typo3 now
19:28 voidus plick: you need to configure safe_mode_exec_dir for using IM with typo3, or use extension that replaces IM calls to GD calls
19:37 d|g hi all
19:38 voidus Denyerec: i can't know all about all extensions...
19:38 Denyerec I know :(
19:38 Denyerec It is a great shame.
19:41 plick shame on you, shame on your donkey
19:41 gerards Denyerec: i'm off the phone now.
19:41 gerards wazzup?
19:42 Denyerec hey gerards
19:42 Denyerec I'm having trouble with tcdirectmail and tt_news
19:42 Denyerec I want to be able to insert some tt_news records into my mail
19:42 gerards what about them?
19:43 Denyerec but when I add the insert-record content type
19:43 Denyerec it doesn't appear in the email
19:43 gerards wow, I don't have any experience with tcdirectmail... It sounds like hell spawn stuff.
19:43 Denyerec You said you did earlier!
19:44 gerards I did?
19:44 gerards darn. sorry man... I really don't remember.
19:44 Denyerec actually
19:44 Denyerec no you didn't :)
19:45 Denyerec nah
19:45 Denyerec it's me being desperate.
19:45 Denyerec Have you used DirectMail ?
19:45 gerards nope.
19:46 Denyerec I wonder if anyone in the whole of #typo3 has ever done newsletters
19:46 Denyerec Either that, or they don't want to admit to it... ;)
19:47 gerards ;) its nothing shameful. But I think it IS a non-trivial exercise.
19:47 Telis uschi> Any ideas regarding the language setup?
19:48 uschi no
19:48 uschi you are not giving the locale
19:48 Denyerec uschi dear, have you ever used directMail or tcDirectMail ?
19:48 uschi but that cannot be the reason
19:48 Denyerec Where's Bedlamhotel when you need him?
19:48 Denyerec :)
19:49 uschi in Belgium, Denyerec
19:49 Denyerec Damn
19:49 uschi he has left us, this trustless tomato
19:49 Denyerec Interesting turn of phrase...
19:50 uschi directly translated from german, imitating the alliteration
19:50 uschi and no, i am not into newsletters
19:51 Denyerec Damn.
19:51 uschi i hate them
19:51 Denyerec It seems no-one is.
19:51 Denyerec I hate them also, but the client is always right.
19:52 uschi i just lost another hour trying to find out why my constants.txt did not get loaded
19:52 uschi the error was: the file was named contants.txt *grumbles*
19:55 num000 hellooo
19:58 Denyerec hey num000
19:58 Denyerec you ever used tcDirectMail?
19:59 gerards trustless tomatoes...
19:59 Denyerec Indeed.
20:00 Denyerec hhaha
20:00 thone_ :)
20:00 num000 no, not yet
20:01 Denyerec damn
20:01 Denyerec I think pmk might be able to help me
20:02 num000 mayabe but he isn't online
20:02 num000 pmk is a cool guy
20:03 num000 although most of typo3 community people a great
20:05 gerards good day boys and girls.
20:13 uriahheep voidus: ello
20:13 uriahheep voidus: did you get my paste?
20:14 voidus uriahheep: yes.. seems normal
20:14 uriahheep hmm.... strange....
20:14 uriahheep voidus: what could have been wrong?
20:14 voidus some templavoila settings.. dunno
20:15 uriahheep hmm...
20:15 uriahheep i'm supposed to have to not do anything to have multi-language capable FCE's?
20:15 voidus yes
20:16 uriahheep strange...
20:16 uriahheep ...maybe it's a setting elsewhere?
20:17 uriahheep ah
20:17 voidus search the wiki... wiki.typo3.org/index.php/FCE..
20:17 uriahheep found it, i think
20:17 uriahheep haha
20:18 uriahheep langDisable was set to 1
20:19 uriahheep WARNING: This container element has localization without inheritance enabled (langChildren = 0). This is most likely a misconfiguration since the localization features of TemplaVoila does not support localized container fields in the native interface! Please inform the system administrator!
20:19 uriahheep what the hell is that?
20:19 uriahheep voidus: ^
20:20 plick www.one.com is this offerer good for typo3?
20:32 num000 i just saw a podcast about pbimagegraph, does someone know if i can use this with my own table out of my extension?
20:32 m0oman plick: i doubt it.
20:35 plick m0oman: why do you doubt it?
20:35 plick it got php and mysql
20:36 plick the only thing is that it got php-sage-mode ON. but some people told me that ist would work anyway
21:03 num000 voidus are you there
22:06 JanAnne is there an basic typoscript setup for a breadcrumb sitemap, or extension.. can someone show this to me pls. I realy need it.
22:46 JanAnne is there an basic typoscript setup for a breadcrumb sitemap, or extension.. can someone show this to me pls. I realy need it.
22:46 JanAnne is there an basic typoscript setup for a breadcrumb 'navigation', or extension.. can someone show this to me pls. I realy need it.
23:02 Denyerec www.typo3wizard.com
23:03 Denyerec jananne - there are lots of typoscript snippets there
23:18 JanAnne Denyerec: TY
23:35 num000 hi Denyerec
23:39 Denyerec Hey num
23:40 num000 how are you doing?
23:40 Denyerec Still having troublr with tcDirectMail
23:40 Denyerec need someone who knows how to use it :(
23:40 num000 ohh, i was planing for next week, maybe i'll have time to invest for tcdirectmail
23:41 num000 but you surely have already a lot done with it, didn't you
23:47 ThePianist such geek talk in here, hi again ;-)
23:49 num000 hi
23:52 ThePianist in which directory/file does Typo save all my entries?
23:55 voidus ThePianist: which entries?
23:56 ThePianist well, all the content that I put into the pages, where does this go in the end?
23:57 voidus ThePianist: into database
23:58 ThePianist well/ I am looking into my finder/explorer. so where would I find this?

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