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#TYPO3 IRC log from : Sunday 7 October 2007

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00:09 Denyerec I *Always* forget how to make the damn filemounts.
00:09 Denyerec Always
00:09 Denyerec everydamntime
00:19 voidus Denyerec: $filemount = new Filemount(); ? ;)
00:20 Denyerec Nah, in the BE when you're trying to make them for idiot accounts
00:20 Denyerec I mean editor.... sorry
00:20 Denyerec ;)
00:20 voidus Denyerec: hm.. maybe you create one "etalon" one time. and copy/paste it over .t3d?
00:21 Denyerec I think you mistunderstand
00:21 Denyerec When you create an account for someone
00:21 Denyerec you have to give them a DB mount and a filemount
00:21 Denyerec so they can see things in the tree and the filelist module
00:25 Denyerec Gah, I got it
00:25 Denyerec you have to set a folder in /fileadmin/ bu just use its name, no slashes, and set "path relative"
00:25 voidus Denyerec: i know
00:26 voidus Denyerec: but why i cannot copy such user? for not remember all that and just change DB filemount
00:26 voidus ?
00:26 Denyerec not sure what you mean
00:26 Denyerec copy the user account from one website to another ?
00:27 voidus yes
00:29 Denyerec You can do that ?
00:29 Denyerec Godverdomme I wish I knew!
00:30 Denyerec How ?
00:34 voidus what is "Godverdomme"?
00:34 voidus Denyerec: using .t3d files.
00:37 Denyerec Gods be damned
00:37 Denyerec in dutch
00:37 Denyerec .t3d files?
00:58 voidus Denyerec: yes
00:58 voidus Denyerec: highlight me or i'll go sleep
00:58 Denyerec voidus
00:59 Denyerec How does one do that? The t3d file thing?
00:59 voidus click on globe and select export to .t3d
01:02 Denyerec Won't that take the whole site?
01:03 Denyerec Ah
01:03 Denyerec I see
01:03 Denyerec Sorry for being a bit stupid :D
01:03 Denyerec That page has now confused me.
01:04 voidus Denyerec: if you select only needed tables..
01:04 Denyerec That's the thing, I'm not entirely sure what's required.
01:04 Denyerec If I select be_users and be_groups
01:05 voidus yes
01:05 Denyerec then some red warning at the bottom talks about a lost relationship
01:05 Denyerec /Users/<removed>/
01:05 voidus add sys_filemount
01:05 Denyerec one of them is a page relationship
01:06 Denyerec Though
01:06 Denyerec I dont suppose I'd WANT to take those with me
01:06 Denyerec because it will be a new site structure
01:06 voidus don't think so
01:06 voidus if you don't select 'pages' table..
02:49 pmaidment Hi all
02:49 pmaidment anyone good with tt_news here?
02:55 Denyerec What country are you in
02:55 Denyerec Cos if it's europe, then asking at this hour is expectin a little much ;)
02:58 Denyerec gnight guys
03:47 slacker Hello everyone, I'm a typo3 newbie, and I have a dumb question, and I'm just not getting the help files. I'm setting up a new installation of Typo3. I'm in the Typo3 2.1 Install Tool and I'm having trouble with the mysql setup. I'm told there is no database selected, and I should select one or create one. In the drop down, I see "test". I don't see a mysql username and password. I assume the host is the machine with the mysql server.
03:48 slacker argh.. make that the 4.1 install tool.
07:07 Docholo Is there a good way to replicate a single content element all throughout a site or on selected pages? Like a "what's new" box with out having to setup tt_news...
07:14 just2b sure
10:59 theconic someone there who can tell me how i can add a css file to one single page?
11:00 Phlogi_ theconic: yes, do it with an extension template and includeCSS on that specific page
11:00 theconic ok, extension template is created, what do i have to enter there?
11:01 theconic i still have to learn all this TS staff...
11:01 m0oman like this in the setup:
11:01 m0oman page.includeCSS {
11:01 m0oman file20 = fileadmin/resources/themes/viajes/style.css
11:01 m0oman file20.media = screen
11:01 m0oman }
11:03 theconic perfect, works
11:03 theconic but still one question
11:04 theconic whereelse can i learn this TS things if i don't want to askk here each time. where do you know this from?
11:05 theconic for example i still don't know when i have to write something in the TSconfig of a page and when in an extension template
11:08 m0oman i learned most of it from books.
11:08 m0oman but there are quite a few online tutorials too i think.
11:08 theconic maybe there are some books in german, too
11:09 theconic i have one, but it tells only about how typo3 generally works, not the TS staff...
11:09 m0oman http://www.amazon.de/Einstieg-Installation-Grundlagen-TypoScript-Computing/dp/3898428362/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/028-2934853-7847761?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1191748305&sr=8-1
11:10 m0oman http://www.amazon.de/TYPO3-Handbuch-Entwickler-Galileo-Computing/dp/3898428125/ref=sr_1_1/028-2934853-7847761?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1191748344&sr=8-1
11:10 m0oman i started with those two.
11:10 m0oman they are... not perfect but did fine for me.
11:10 theconic looks like what i was searching for
11:11 m0oman and it's quite helpful to have a decent structured introduction into typo3.
11:12 theconic i'm sitting in front of http://www.amazon.de/TYPO3-Anwenderhandbuch-Websites-erstellen-gestalten-verwalten/dp/3827323541
11:15 m0oman ah. i don't know that one really. :/
11:16 m0oman i don't really have good experience with addison-wesley books.
11:18 theconic yes, my "boss" bought it for me as i said i could make a website for him, if he gave me some time...
11:20 theconic but now i'm so interested in typo3 that is has become my new hobby ^^
11:20 theconic think i'll buy these two books, thanks for the links
11:28 m0oman heh. no worries. :)
11:34 theconic hmmm...
11:34 theconic i can't change the text color of the date by css
11:34 theconic in ve_guestbook
11:35 theconic i have included the css file now, works well, but i can't change the color... is this overwritten somewhere else?
11:37 theconic i can change the pagetitle, but not the posting date
14:09 nme hi all. the topic sais it's english only. is there a german irc channel for typo3? or can i just ask in german?
14:12 nme maybe i should try in english first:
14:12 nme i've got a question regarding the installation.
14:12 nme i've got webspace, but without root access (i think). the hosting provider provides the possibility to install typo3, so i did. it's now in the www.[domain].net/cms folder.
14:12 nme i want to move it one level up. the installation.txt sais only how to do it with root commands, but i only have ftp access. so i could move the folders up one level, but what about updating the "symlink"???
14:13 nme thx in advance
14:16 timdeluxe hm
14:17 timdeluxe wait a moment
14:17 nme k
14:18 timdeluxe i have root access on my server, so i can only guess. since you are having only ftp access you have to put the real data into folders which are symlinked on other installations
14:19 timdeluxe perhaps there is a howto
14:20 timdeluxe here it is: http://www.typo3forum.net/forum/typo3-4-x-installation-und-updates/14589-nur-ftp-zugang-wie-installieren.html
14:20 timdeluxe simply use the windows-zips and you are fine
14:21 timdeluxe you can use them on linux webspace, too... dont care about the "windows"
14:21 nme wow cool thanks! i ll have a look at it. topic sounds good already
14:21 timdeluxe no prob, 2nd google search result
14:22 timdeluxe ;)
14:23 nme ^^ sry for wasting your time then.
14:30 nme that forum thread mainly describes the "manual" installation with downloading the zip and uploading the unzipped files to the webserver.
14:30 nme i just had to click "install" on a webinterface of my hosting provider, which saved me lots of configuration difficulties and time.
14:30 nme maybe there is another solution? maybe you can tell typo3 to put the website one level above the /cms folder?
14:32 nme or maybe, if there is no symlink, as it sounds in the forum thread too, i just have to put the files one level above the cms folder and it already works?
14:44 timdeluxe hm
14:44 timdeluxe you should give it a try
14:44 timdeluxe ehm
14:45 timdeluxe wait
14:45 timdeluxe ok, depending of what ftp client you use, it shows you, if a folder is a symlink or not
14:46 timdeluxe filezilla for example adds a little arrow to the symbol
14:48 nme ah ok i use filezilla. let me just check that out
14:54 nme now i understand: symlink is the word for "verknüpfung".
14:54 nme there are 4 symlinks then. "index.php", "t3lib", "typo3" and "typo3_src".
14:54 nme the install file sais: "3 Update the symlink -- $ rm typo3_src -- $ ln -s ./typo3_src-<version> typo3_src"
14:54 nme do i just have to move the files one level up and then tell those symlinks to aim to another directory, which would be the higher level in this case? can that be done like with a windows folder?
14:55 timdeluxe uh i never done it. dont know if you can move the symlinks by ftp
14:57 nme it seems to me as if the installation.txt sais that only one of the symlinks has to be changed. the "typo3_src". do i understand that right?
14:57 timdeluxe i just tested it. you can move them
14:58 nme but in filezilla you can't edit the symlink properties
14:58 timdeluxe yesno, the other symlinks have to move with it
14:58 timdeluxe you are right, but you can simply move the existing symlinks
14:58 timdeluxe in case that you are the owner of them
14:59 nme don't the symlinks aim to a wrong directory then?
14:59 nme else the installation.txt wouldn't say you had to update the symlinks. ?
14:59 timdeluxe switch on "ansicht" > "server dateiliste" > "benutzer gruppe" and see if you are the owner
14:59 timdeluxe forget the .txt
14:59 nme hm ok
14:59 timdeluxe no the symlinks are relative
15:02 timdeluxe just mark all files and try to move them. you have nothing to lose. if unsuccessful you just could click the install button from the provider again, right? ;D
15:04 timdeluxe and to answer the initial question: no, there isnt a german t3 channel i know of.
15:06 nme i was able to move them. i guess now i have to check if the typo3 backend works and if the frontend is shown when i type in just the domain without the /cms.
15:06 nme it's ok with the channel, i thought i would have more troubles with chatting in english
15:08 timdeluxe see it the other way: you can practise your english here :)
15:11 nme practising is good with small talk, but can lead to bad things when talking about technical stuff ;)
15:16 nme GREAT! - the frontend works and the backend too as it seems on the first view.
15:16 nme thanks a lot timdeluxe!!!!
15:16 nme now i ll move over to the video tuts and the text documentation.
15:17 timdeluxe nono. it is the other way around. since very much words in the it branch are in english it is simple to talk about technical stuff in english. it goes difficult with small talk, THEN you are missing the right words ;)
15:17 timdeluxe no prob
15:18 timdeluxe but if you had simply tried to move it, you would have come to conclusion earlier
15:22 nme i was so sure about the .txt file which said that moving the files is not the only thing that has to be done.
15:22 nme but you're right. as i really had nothing to loose, especially with that button, i could have just tried it.
15:23 timdeluxe the explanation for the things in the txt is very simple
15:24 timdeluxe your provider surely used a tar.gz archive for the source
15:25 timdeluxe since tar.gz's are mainly used on linux/unix systems, it presumes that you you have access to a shell
15:29 nme what does that mean?
15:30 timdeluxe ...don't care... unless you are really interested in
15:35 nme ok. thanks again tim. cu all
17:21 Denyerec Hey
17:32 timdeluxe Ho
17:36 voidus hi all
19:16 Gilthas Someone that want to help me... Trying to install Typo3 on my webhotel but can not make a new databas - has to include it into my existing.
19:21 Denyerec unlucky
19:21 Denyerec do-able, but potentially unwis
19:21 Denyerec e
19:22 Gilthas Denyerec - do you has some suggestions
19:22 Gilthas ?
19:22 Denyerec "Try it and see"
19:22 Denyerec the only real problem you'll get is if something shares a table name with typo3
19:22 Denyerec in which situation, everything will break in a colourful way
19:28 Gilthas Ok
19:28 Gilthas Thx anyway
20:44 num000 hello, i would like to ask what happens to the table fields which are handeld by typo3 (like creation date, uid etc) when i insert manually data with exec_INSERT(...
20:45 num000 from the main function in class.myextension.php
20:49 voidus num000: sql query...
20:49 num000 voidus hi
20:49 voidus num000: hi
20:49 num000 what does it mean? do I have to handle it manualy or will this be done from exec_INSERT
20:52 num000 voidus any ideas?
20:53 voidus num000: uid is auto incremental field...
20:53 num000 what about the rest
20:53 num000 like cruser_id or crdate tstamp etc?
20:54 voidus hm...
20:54 voidus i think you need to look at example
20:54 num000 voidus can you point me to one?
20:54 voidus for example, ve_guestbook
20:54 num000 right
20:55 voidus $saveData['uid'] = '';
20:55 voidus $saveData['pid'] = $this->config['pid_list'];
20:55 voidus $saveData['tstamp'] = time();
20:55 voidus $saveData['crdate'] = time();
20:55 voidus $saveData['deleted'] = '0';
20:55 voidus sorry for pasting, but i think other ppl sleep and i don't disturb
20:56 voidus in ve_guestbook these fields are handled manually..
21:02 num000 i see
21:02 num000 so i've to make sure these fields are filled in
21:32 Denyerec Hey num, voidus
21:34 num000 hi Denyerec
23:59 Denyerec can you have LATEST and SINGLE one one page in tt_news?

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