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00:01 HardPhuck i am going to kill myself :)
00:01 HardPhuck downloaded the perfect lightbox
00:02 HardPhuck installed
00:02 HardPhuck added in template
00:02 HardPhuck and now i see there is no option to add random images to the set
00:03 HardPhuck which i would desperately want
00:03 just2b_ there is imo no random img lightbox
00:04 HardPhuck i saw that slimbox has the option to be added to all images on the page independently
00:04 HardPhuck but maag_randomimage doesnt support adding rel="lightbox"
00:04 reDBull why does styles.content.get and styles.content.getLeft work, but styles.content.getRight do nothing, how can i define this?
00:05 just2b_ getRight works too
00:05 just2b_ and getBorder
00:06 reDBull i have not found that to be true on my rather default install
00:06 reDBull where is that defined anyway?
00:07 reDBull and if one needed more content areas, where are they defined?
00:07 just2b_ in css_styled content
00:07 reDBull ah ok, thx
00:07 just2b_ there is an ext for this or look in tsref on typo3.net
00:07 just2b_ ah sry, it is in the faq
00:07 reDBull k
00:08 reDBull i started off using TV to do everything, now i'm using the "original"? method
00:08 HardPhuck is it possible that TS will automatically add a html property to a subpart when detected
00:08 HardPhuck i have footer
00:09 HardPhuck and all <a href="".... for example would automatically get class="footer"
00:09 HardPhuck i mean can that be done
00:10 HardPhuck and if there would be 10 anchors they all would get that class applied
00:10 just2b_ makes no sense
00:10 HardPhuck why not
00:10 just2b_ #div a {} works fine
00:11 HardPhuck i dont need that for css
00:11 just2b_ but?
00:11 HardPhuck lightbox
00:12 HardPhuck not class footer
00:12 HardPhuck that was ana examplet
00:12 just2b_ yeah why taking serious examples if you can take stupid ones
00:12 HardPhuck i would need rel="lighbox" to all anchors
00:12 HardPhuck sorry about that
00:13 HardPhuck not a stupid one, but i thought more people would want another property than "rel"
00:13 HardPhuck thus more chance of getting an answer :)
00:13 just2b_ no because a css attribute to *every* element makes no sense
00:13 just2b_ yeah.. because there are so many people online in this moment.. beside me and you
00:14 HardPhuck lol, point taken :)
00:14 HardPhuck again, i apologize
00:14 just2b_ but yes it is possible to add an attribute
00:15 HardPhuck i tried typolink version, but i cannot get it done due to the lack of my TS knowledge/experience
00:16 just2b_ it really depends how you add the images
00:16 HardPhuck with maag_random image
00:16 HardPhuck extension
00:17 just2b_ yeah this information was also not very important in the beginning.. lol... you need to change the ext
00:17 reDBull this really blows, my css styled content must be messed up, getRight and getBorder do not work for me
00:17 reDBull yet the first two do
00:17 HardPhuck they should if it's default install
00:17 reDBull nope
00:17 reDBull newest version maybe only uses the 2
00:18 just2b_ redbull lol and thtere is content in the other columns?
00:18 reDBull yes
00:18 reDBull some simple text for testing
00:19 just2b_ ;)
00:20 reDBull subparts.maincontent < styles.content.getLeft
00:20 reDBull subparts.rightcontent < styles.content.get
00:20 reDBull subparts.searchbar < styles.content.getRight
00:20 just2b_ maybe the szubpar is wrong?
00:20 just2b_ tried to add maincontent < styles.content.getRight
00:21 reDBull i'll swap that quick
00:21 just2b_ i say it is the template
00:21 reDBull ok
00:22 reDBull now i get my searchbar content in the maincontent(as expected)
00:22 just2b_ so its the template
00:22 just2b_ the subpart is wrong written or empty
00:22 reDBull <td id="searchbar" width="153" align="left" valign="center" nowrap style="background-image: url(/fileadmin/template/main/assets/toolbar/right_background.jpg); background-repeat: no-repeat; background-position: left top; padding-top: 10px;"><!--###searchbar### begin --><!--###searchbar### end --></td>
00:23 reDBull there is the subpart in the browser source
00:23 just2b_ haha it is empty
00:23 just2b_ i knew it
00:23 just2b_ ;)
00:23 reDBull exactly
00:23 reDBull nothing is being injected
00:23 reDBull do i have to have garbage text there?
00:24 just2b_ subparts are not allowed to be empty in template
00:24 just2b_ that is why you take subparts and not marker
00:24 reDBull umm, who thefuck programmed it like that?
00:24 reDBull why would it matter
00:24 just2b_ you dont get it why you use subparts, right?
00:25 reDBull i guess not then
00:25 just2b_ you create the template with *all* content in it, every searchbox and menu.. and you leave it there!
00:25 just2b_ then you just make the subparts around it and it will be changed then into the real content
00:26 reDBull so for individual areas should i use marks?
00:26 just2b_ but you can always take a look at a template of your page filled with real (dummy) content.. so you will be fast correcting any errors you just see when there is content
00:26 just2b_ yes
00:26 reDBull ok sorry
00:26 reDBull i'm too new
00:26 reDBull thanks for the help
00:26 just2b_ no need to say sry
00:41 Denyerec goddamn
00:41 Denyerec I needed him
00:41 Denyerec :/
00:43 HardPhuck this is an offtopic
00:43 HardPhuck whats the html char for space
00:56 ries HardPhuck: I often use &nbsp;
00:56 ries But that's a non breakign space...
00:57 HardPhuck i already googled it, but thanx anyway
00:58 HardPhuck how do you comment out multiple lines in TS?
01:01 HardPhuck ahhhh the smell of success
01:02 HardPhuck who is your daddy! :)
01:02 HardPhuck i solved a puzzle that bothered me for days now
01:04 HardPhuck imageLinkWrap.typolink.ATagParams = rel="lightbox"
01:33 num000 people use a tiny arrow in front of a link, doesanyone know if this little picture is somehwere open source or free to use?
01:34 voidus num000: if it inside typo3, it should be covered under gpl
01:34 num000 no
01:34 num000 i found it on kupix.de he has his external links marked with this little picutre
01:34 num000 looks great i wonder if there is such a repository with free licensed pictures
01:35 num000 btw good evening voidus
01:35 voidus num000: it's deep night here :)
01:35 voidus 3:37 am
01:35 num000 here it is 01:37
01:36 num000 where you from ?
01:36 voidus russia
01:36 num000 cool, i was born near the russin border
01:36 voidus num000: where?)
01:36 num000 erzurum,
01:36 num000 turkey
01:37 num000 the north of erzurum
01:38 voidus reading about it now :)
01:38 num000 ;)
01:38 voidus very old city..
01:38 num000 ohh yes
01:38 num000 and very cold
01:38 HardPhuck 1:40 here as well
01:38 voidus cold? ah, it's high..
01:39 num000 yes
01:39 num000 HardPhuck you are in europe
01:39 HardPhuck yes, Slovenia
01:39 num000 germany
01:40 HardPhuck well, now i have figured out how to make each picture to appear in a lightbox i can go to bed :)
01:41 HardPhuck optimization comes tomorrow
01:41 voidus btw, num000, i heared that burning CD-R/RW is illegal now in germany. i think it's lie.. but nobody knows what's real
01:41 voidus HardPhuck: good night
01:41 num000 no, its not illegal
01:41 HardPhuck good night guys
01:41 num000 as far as i know not. sure if you do burn illegal stuff on it it is illegal
01:41 num000 good night HardPhuck
01:43 voidus http://www.variety.com/VR1117972503.html
01:44 num000 ohhh
01:45 num000 i was in holidays in september when this article as written
01:46 num000 but we have much bigger problems than cd/dvd burning
01:46 voidus which ones?
01:46 num000 they are now bringing a law which gives law enforcement agencies the ability to inject trojans in computers
01:47 num000 into anyones home
01:47 voidus really?
01:47 num000 yes
01:47 num000 the technical side is already finished
01:47 voidus awful
01:48 num000 they have it at theparlament for themoment
01:48 num000 and discussing it
01:48 num000 they this is very dangerus
01:48 voidus how they would do that for *nix computers? :)
01:48 num000 they call it remote forensic software
01:48 num000 voidus thats what i'm asking myself aswell
01:48 num000 but sure they wont do anything for *nix maschines
01:48 num000 they won't be able to ( they would)
01:49 num000 they pubished it that way that they will first get into the target persons house, take a image copy of his harddisc then adapt their software to it and they send it remotely to the target computer
01:49 num000 that way no virus scanner will be able to find it, since the hash values won't match
01:50 num000 a trojan just for you and me
01:50 num000 so make sure your firewall won't let anything out (which is sitting somehwere behinde your houseborders)
01:50 voidus ...if i buy another HDD? or use x-terminal at all...
01:51 num000 and you are right, the law you are talking about gets into germany 2008 and then not even private copies of bought cds are allowed anymore
01:51 num000 http://www.monstersandcritics.de/artikel/200739/article_30624.php/Keine-Privatkopien-von-Musik-CDs
01:51 num000 xterminals are also great
01:52 num000 so what they do if they are looking for a harddisc and can't find one?
01:52 num000 agent mulder, agent mulder, the target person doesn't have a hdd. go buy him one!
01:56 voidus hm.. no so happy
01:58 voidus really stange. from here germany is seen as paradise of democracy... who did approve this law..
01:59 num000 it is in the discussion, but most likely they will aprove it
02:00 voidus which people vote for those politicians who approve such laws?
02:01 num000 since people voting for these politicians these people do earn them as a politican said
02:01 num000 every people earns thepolitician he votes for
02:01 num000 we have a conservative covernment here
02:01 num000 government
02:02 voidus yeah..
02:03 voidus but at least you have no (or very small) corruption and law really work.
02:04 voidus good night, num000. i'll go to sleep
02:04 num000 good night
02:10 ae when creating a menu what does NO stand for? ie. 'NO.linkWrap' etc.... ?
03:19 Boonkerz anybody work with iis ?
03:31 Denyerec That sound you hear...
03:31 Denyerec ...is people backing away slowly in terror.
03:31 Denyerec Gnight!
03:31 Denyerec And no, I don't do IIS
03:38 ries Hey guys
03:38 ries is there a marker for direct mail to link back to the website?
03:46 num000 does anyone know how the typical macintosh font is called? does it exist as a webfont on usual browsers?
03:48 ries num000: I don't think there is such a thing as a typical mac font
03:49 num000 no?
03:50 ries there are many font's on a mac
03:50 ries like there are many on windows and Linux
03:50 num000 wow
03:50 num000 i never knew this, i'm impressed
03:55 salamandyr can anyone point me to a tutorial that walks me through applying multiple templates to a t3 site? i've gotten dependent on TV and don't really know how to do all the steps
07:14 tsrepadmin good morning #typo3!
08:21 dax77 hi @all
08:21 just2b_ hi dax
08:28 tsrepadmin hi dax77 just2b
08:46 bauschan hi all
10:07 elbart good morning :)
10:08 psychocat_ good morning.
10:24 psychocat_ someone here who could help me with wwsc_t3sync?
10:28 elbart nope... i haven't used it yet
10:29 psychocat_ ok, I'm trying to figure out what the php should do myself... thanks anyway.
10:37 andreasbalzer hi! Anybody here with knowledge about sr_feuser_register field adding procedures?
10:41 Strud how can I quickly backup all the db templates?
10:41 Strud I mean... all the ones that are not written out to file...
11:04 LordLamer moin. in the bottom of the rtehtmlare i have the solution to set align or fontface or size and color. where can i enable or disable this feature? i have another typo3 install where it is disabled but i didnt can enable it.
11:04 LordLamer where can i do it?
11:10 eeos hi there
11:10 elbart Lordlamer... i think you have to configure it with the TSconfig
11:12 elbart look here: http://typo3.org/documentation/document-library/extension-manuals/rtehtmlarea/1.4.4/view/4/4/
11:12 LordLamer ok i will try it
11:13 elbart here is also shown a well documented configuration: http://www.sk-typo3.de/RTE-Standardkonfiguration.31.0.html
11:14 elbart but german
11:14 LordLamer german is good ;)
11:15 just2b_ extension #13 released ;)
11:16 LordLamer elbart: this dropdowns doesnt come from the rte editor. this are build in in typo3
11:29 elbart is it really deactivated or are the secondary options not shown?
11:29 elbart LordLamer :)
11:30 LordLamer the secondary options are shown. but all this options for the text are not shown
11:32 elbart TCEFORM.tt_content {
11:32 elbart text_align.disabled = 1
11:32 elbart text_face.disabled = 1
11:32 elbart text_size.disabled = 1
11:32 elbart text_color.disabled = 1
11:32 elbart }
11:32 elbart something like this could help?
11:33 elbart of cause change the values to 0
11:35 elbart just2b, which one?
11:37 LordLamer elbart: does not really help
11:38 elbart hmm... did you put it in the PageTSConfig, right?
11:39 elbart i've no idea then :/
11:40 elbart with the above TS I'm able to access those fields
11:41 LordLamer ok. i have put it to a page and it works
11:42 LordLamer the first try was to put it on a user
11:42 LordLamer but this doenst work
11:42 elbart no, TCEForms doesn't work with UserTS
11:43 LordLamer ok. but is it possible to enable this for a user?
11:44 elbart ahh.. if you put "page." in front of TCEFORMS it could work
11:44 elbart try it
11:45 LordLamer yeah
11:45 LordLamer that works
11:45 LordLamer fine
11:45 LordLamer thanks a lot
11:45 elbart it was new to me too
11:45 LordLamer for me too ;()
12:05 eeos hi everybody
12:06 eeos I have created a test extension with kickstarter, chosen to extend another table, type mm.
12:06 eeos in the BE i have chosen to use a selct field to select the right value
12:06 eeos in the BE the value shown is the "uid" and not the "title" field.
12:07 eeos why?
12:07 just2b_ cause there is IMO a bug with mm
12:15 eeos just2b_: ah! so how does it work then?
12:16 just2b_ search BT for a patch, dont know if there is one
12:19 HardPhuck just2b i have solved my problem from yesterday
12:20 HardPhuck adding rel="lightbox"
12:20 HardPhuck to all image anchors
12:20 eeos just2b_: what is BT?
12:21 just2b_ bugtracker
12:22 andreasbalzer anybody with knowledge about sr_feuser_register?
12:23 elbart sorry andreas... not more than yesterday :)
12:24 just2b_ rofl
12:24 eeos just2b_: even if you chose external relations, there are problems: it does return the uid instead of the field name.
12:25 just2b_ not if you say the field is !uid
12:26 eeos just2b_: I actually want to say what field to select.
12:27 just2b_ > can do this in ext tables.php
12:31 eeos_ lost connection again
12:31 eeos_ :(
12:32 eeos_ sorry did anyone answer? our exchange is undergiong works, and connections are awful today.
12:32 just2b_ 04[12:28] just2b: 01> can do this in ext tables.php
12:35 andreasbalzer does somebody know why I always see the same FE page when viewing a T3 website behind a proxy?
12:36 andreasbalzer I have to manually set nocache to avoid it...
12:36 just2b_ because the proxy caches?
12:37 andreasbalzer just2b_: how to solve that problem? It can't be that users behind proxies can't view T3 pages
12:37 andreasbalzer and it doesn't happen with typo3.org so it has to be a T3 setting that can be enabled..
12:37 andreasbalzer ..or disabled
12:45 elbart ok guys, i'm out for university now... cya later
12:52 tobstar can you configure a content element to be visible only on a certain part of the day, say 7am to 9am?
12:54 eeos back
13:42 elbart re
13:56 num000_ hi all
13:56 num000_ psychocat_ hi
14:00 elbart hi num000
14:17 HardPhuck is there a page i could get pre-made styles for tt_content
14:17 HardPhuck like news items, images, headers...
14:25 andreasbalzer somebody here with knowledge about newloginbox?
14:25 just2b_ kind of andreasbalzer
14:26 andreasbalzer i'd like to get the date of birth in FE (user listing) as a real time not as a unix timestamp.. how is that possible?
14:26 andreasbalzer see http://typo3.org/documentation/document-library/extension-manuals/newloginbox/3.1.0/view/1/4/
14:26 andreasbalzer listView.customProcessing.[fieldname]
14:28 just2b_ i guess therre is stdwrap availablne
14:28 just2b_ just use it
14:28 andreasbalzer bad question: how?
14:29 just2b_ how long are you using now typo3?
14:29 andreasbalzer how often do I have to change time formats with stdwraps?
14:29 andreasbalzer ok.. I guess i have to look in the tsref
14:29 just2b_ stdwrap is the salt of typo ;)
14:30 just2b_ if is has stdwrap functionality
14:30 just2b_ .date = Y.m.d
14:30 andreasbalzer and I'm the sugar
14:30 andreasbalzer ah ok thanks
14:31 just2b_ sugar is sweet, so I doubt that :D
14:33 andreasbalzer depends on how much you eat.. at some point you won't recognize the sweetness anylonger ;)
14:41 andreasbalzer just2b: I guess it's not http://pastebin.com/m4b1123c
14:43 just2b_ but http://telering.at/Content.Node/mobil/schnipp.php
14:43 just2b_ sry http://pastebin.com/d40091419
14:50 andreasbalzer thanks
14:51 sascha_ hi, question concerning customisation of fe_user_register: how do i define a textarea or select field?
14:52 andreasbalzer sascha_: i solved the problem with the missing message an hour ago.. You have to take care about upper and lower case. In template it's upper, in setup it's lower
14:53 sascha_ anreasbalzer:great! congratulations.
14:53 andreasbalzer thanks
14:53 JunGle 10 Hum gr
14:53 sascha_ andreasbalzer: i searched everywhere till 2oclock and the gave up
14:54 andreasbalzer sascha_:and check what sr_feuser_register loads as the template.. sometimes it doesn't do what is wanted..
14:54 andreasbalzer just2b: sry.. it doesn't work
14:54 sascha_ andreasbalzer:tell me in you setup do you use other input fields apart from input type=text
14:55 andreasbalzer no
14:55 andreasbalzer see ext esserfurtyearofgraduation
14:55 just2b_ i dont know if stdwrap is available
14:56 andreasbalzer it is
14:57 sascha_ andreasbalzer: a pity. the question occured to me how the ext distinguishes between textarea, select fields etc. it has to be defined somewhere
14:58 andreasbalzer via kickstarter I guess
15:04 sascha_ andreasbalzer: talking about deadlines. is there anything you still need to know till 6pm?
15:04 andreasbalzer yes
15:04 andreasbalzer but related to newsloginbox ;)
15:06 sascha_ anreasbalzer:whats the problem there?
15:06 andreasbalzer 1) How to get the date of birth displayed as a normal time instead of a timestamp (http://pastebin.com/d40091419) does not work :-/ and each manual says something different 2) how to get a real status displayed (married, student, ..) instead of single numbers 3) How to get the gender displayed instead of single numbers 4) How to get the zone written with long names instead of short ones 5) How to display the country (it's just blank in FE)
15:08 andreasbalzer any idea?
15:10 Denyerec you know how you fill out the site title in a template...
15:10 Denyerec How do you access that peice of information from TS
15:10 sascha_ what about altering the template with a simple php "date()"?
15:11 Denyerec as I need to composite a string with that value
15:11 andreasbalzer sascha_: modified exts are not an option
15:11 andreasbalzer Denyerec: is it pagetitle?
15:11 andreasbalzer no sry
15:11 Denyerec sitetitle perhaps
15:11 Denyerec but I don't know how to feed it to what I'm working with
15:12 Denyerec EG
15:12 Denyerec I have this: 10.data = page:tx_seo_titletag // page:title
15:12 Denyerec but I don't know what the // is doe
15:12 Denyerec doing
15:12 Denyerec is // a comment like in C?
15:12 Denyerec C++ rather
15:13 andreasbalzer yes
15:13 andreasbalzer afaik
15:14 elbart no it isn't
15:14 andreasbalzer well. sry again ..
15:14 Denyerec what is it elbart ?
15:14 elbart "//" are only allowed at the beginning
15:14 Denyerec I thought that was #
15:14 elbart erm sorry.. /* ;)
15:16 elbart # for one line comments
15:16 elbart /* ... */ for multiline
15:16 elbart i think other comments are not allowed
15:17 Denyerec Then....
15:17 Denyerec what is:
15:17 Denyerec 10.data = page:tx_seo_titletag // page:title
15:17 Denyerec It certainly isn't concatenating them (Which is what I WANT it to do!!!)
15:17 elbart you priorize page:tx_seo_titletag before page:title
15:18 elbart so if tx_seo_titletag is not empty, it is used... else the page:title is used
15:19 Denyerec Interesting
15:19 Denyerec well what I want to appear is: page:tx_seo_titletag - page:title
15:19 Denyerec EG: MySite.com - Welcome
15:20 Denyerec How would I achieve that ?
15:20 Denyerec http://paste2.org/p/7631
15:20 Denyerec Current TS is there ^
15:20 sascha_ andreasbalzer: you really need to make it complicated, do you? :-) If I find something I will tell you at once. CU
15:22 elbart and using this: page:tx_seo_titletag - page:title doesn't work?
15:26 elbart or: 10.dataWrap = {page:tx_seo_titletag} - {page:title} ? don't know... can't test at the university here
15:29 Denyerec The former does not work
15:29 Denyerec it results in a blank
15:29 Denyerec I will try dataWrap
15:31 Denyerec dataWrap combines the fields properly
15:31 Denyerec but is not wrapped properly
15:31 Denyerec as the .Wrap property seems to follow it.
15:31 Denyerec I suppose I can just add plain text to the datawrap.
15:32 elbart yes
15:32 elbart just write the title-tags into tha data-wrap
15:39 Denyerec elbart you know when you fill out the site title in the template?
15:39 Denyerec How do I access that little gem of information
15:40 smurfslayer hey there...
15:40 elbart what do you mean Denyerec ?
15:41 Denyerec Well on the template settings
15:41 smurfslayer any directmail freaks around? is it possible to store distribution groups in a sysfolder and to make that groups available to all newsletter pages?
15:41 Denyerec where I select to modify constants, or setup, or site description...
15:41 Denyerec I can set a site title there.
15:41 smurfslayer at the template
15:42 elbart ahh I know what you mean
15:42 elbart but i don't know how to access it
15:42 elbart :)
15:42 Denyerec DamnT
15:42 Denyerec I'm using SEO_Basic
15:42 Denyerec and it's a pile of shit
15:42 Denyerec it doesn't let you stipulate default entries
15:42 elbart never used it
15:42 Denyerec so you have to enter the same title and keyword to EVERY page
15:42 Denyerec So I need some way of saying "if blank, use this"
15:43 Denyerec and so I have two problems
15:43 just2b_ anoyne can help in php with strftime ?
15:43 Denyerec 1) How to test if blank
15:43 Denyerec 2) how to access the damn data to use as the defaul
15:43 Denyerec Maybe just2b
15:43 Denyerec what is up
15:43 elbart tell us georg :)
15:43 Denyerec Cos I know sure as hell I need YOUR help.
15:43 just2b_ i want hour, minute day.. in every language.
15:43 just2b_ like with weekdays
15:44 elbart i thought it's not implented in php
15:44 elbart implemented... sry
15:45 Denyerec Um
15:45 Denyerec Doesn't it only handle like 4 languages?
15:45 elbart Denyerec... but priorization helps you to check whether its empty or not?
15:46 Denyerec prioritization doesn't work
15:46 Denyerec or at least does not appear to
15:46 elbart it hast to! :P
15:46 Denyerec ah it DOES work
15:46 Denyerec but not on strings.
15:46 elbart hm?
15:46 Denyerec eg it seems only to work on fields
15:46 Denyerec page:title etc
15:46 Denyerec not "fred"
15:47 elbart yes of cause
15:47 Denyerec so I can't do page:keywords // "default keywords"
15:47 Denyerec so where in hells teeth can I stuff the default information ?
15:47 elbart perhaps try a TS-variable
15:47 Denyerec how do I define those ?
15:47 elbart {$keywords}---
15:47 elbart erm
15:47 elbart without ---
15:47 Denyerec so in the constants
15:47 Denyerec keywords = blah
15:47 Denyerec then use {$keywords}
15:47 elbart i think so :)
15:48 Denyerec I will try
15:49 Denyerec Either I did it wrong
15:49 Denyerec or that doesn't work
15:49 Denyerec 30.data = page:keywords // {$defKeywords}
15:50 Denyerec defKeywords = PIN ATTENUATOR,SPDT,SPUDT SAW blah blah
15:50 Denyerec I put the first line in TS Setup
15:50 Denyerec and the second line in TS Constants
15:52 elbart hmmm
15:52 Denyerec I have to say this plugin is, in short, uttlerly bloody useless
15:53 Denyerec First of all the installer doesn't install the necessary TS
15:53 Denyerec THEN you find that there is no way of setting up defaults
15:53 elbart is there no documentation
15:53 elbart ?
15:53 Denyerec hah
15:53 Denyerec http://typo3.org/documentation/document-library/extension-manuals/seo_basics/0.3.1/view/1/1/#id3724155
15:54 alexwx helo
15:54 elbart yes thats very short :)
15:54 alexwx is possible to make a text crop for the TMENU?
15:54 Denyerec There is a default .append
15:54 Denyerec but as this appends AFTER the .wrap it's useless
15:54 Denyerec because you end up with plaintext outside the meta tags
15:55 Denyerec so I have no idea what the hell the author thought that was any good for.,
15:55 elbart sorry... can't agree or disagree... never used or watched at it
15:56 Denyerec Typoscript REALLY needs better evaluative clases
15:56 Denyerec *clauses
15:56 Denyerec because this is just ridiculous
15:57 elbart if priorization doesn't work you have to use the ifEmpty-clause
15:58 alexwx is possible to make a text crop for the TMENU?
15:58 elbart don't know how to use it... i'm a n00b to typo3 ;)
15:58 Denyerec {$value} only works for .value and not for .data
15:58 Denyerec prioitisation only works on .data
15:58 Denyerec *sigh*
15:59 Denyerec ifEmpty... omg that thing is about as nice as a kick in the head.
15:59 elbart ever heard of wrap2 and wrap3 ?
16:00 elbart alexwx: you want to cut off letters in a tmenu?
16:02 alexwx elbart yes
16:05 alexwx what mean that two numbers? crop = 22 | ... | 22?
16:08 elbart german or english dscription needed?
16:11 bauschan what again was best practise to include your custom css-file into BE module?
16:11 elbart german: http://www.typo3.net/tsref/functions/stdwrap/#crop
16:12 just2b_ elberat.. 2nd 22 is crap
16:12 elbart i know.. i didn't mentioned that
16:12 just2b_ 1st 22 > after how many chars, '...' text after cropping, 2nd 22 is if split whole words
16:13 elbart ok guys... i'm out now
16:13 elbart cya later
16:14 Denyerec just2b_
16:14 Denyerec http://paste2.org/p/7637
16:14 Denyerec Is that conditional correct?
16:14 Denyerec because right now, both are printing.
16:15 just2b_ no
16:15 just2b_ i guess if.istrue.data = page:tx_seo_titletag
16:15 Denyerec I will try
16:16 Denyerec Nope
16:16 Denyerec Still displays both.
16:16 Denyerec FYI in this case, the field has a value in it.
16:16 Denyerec STUPID bullshit SEO module.
16:16 Denyerec All I wanna be able to do is specify a different page title and description & keywords for some pages
16:16 Denyerec and if there's no value, use the sitewide defaults
16:16 Denyerec :(
16:17 Denyerec And this extension doesn't allow for defaults
16:17 just2b_ make a real confition
16:18 Denyerec ?
16:18 just2b_ http://paste2.org/p/7638
16:21 Denyerec I'm gonn ahave 5 or 6 of these
16:21 Denyerec for various meta fields.
16:21 just2b_ so?
16:21 Denyerec Won't that crap the cache up ?
16:21 just2b_ no
16:21 just2b_ why should it
16:21 Denyerec OK
16:21 Denyerec Read somewhere to watch out for conditionals like tht.
16:21 just2b_ where?
16:22 Denyerec On The Internet.
16:22 Denyerec I probably misunderstood it, TBH.
16:22 Denyerec Your conditional seems to test for true
16:22 Denyerec in both cases
16:23 Denyerec [globalVar = TSFE:page|tx_seo_titletag= 1]
16:23 Denyerec Just wonderin if that should be =0
16:24 just2b_ it depends
16:24 just2b_ i dont know the ext
16:24 just2b_ so i dont know which value
16:24 just2b_ cant do everything for you, right?`
16:26 Denyerec Well, I need to test if it's empty
16:26 Denyerec and testing =1 seems.... odd.
16:26 Denyerec EG: I don't understand the conditional
16:26 just2b_ is it a dropdown or what is it?
16:26 Denyerec It's a field
16:26 Denyerec that is assigned to each page
16:26 just2b_ btw you make the default thing before the condition and then override it in the condition
16:27 Denyerec this STUPID extension prints this field in place of the template site title, but doesn't offer you the bloody option to set a default
16:27 Denyerec #which is the root of the problem
16:27 just2b_ just don't use the ext
16:28 Denyerec I know you don't like me :P
16:29 Denyerec If this extension had just that one more ability to "use a default if blank" it would be useful.
16:29 Denyerec Despite the fact the installation is broken, but hey.
16:29 Denyerec It's free, right.
16:29 Denyerec Now i've looked at the source, and I cannot for the life of me understand how it's getting its data.
16:30 Denyerec So I can't even make a half-assed crack at building in some default values from the TSFE
16:33 Denyerec WANTED - T3 extension developer for hire to make something useful of the SEO_Basics extension
16:33 just2b_ ask tim
16:35 Denyerec What's his handle ?
16:36 just2b_ http://www.google.at/search?hl=de&q=tim+typo3&btnG=Google-Suche&meta=
16:36 just2b_ ;)
16:40 Denyerec I don't even see in all this plugin code where on earth it's *doing* anything.
16:40 Denyerec The only thing I see is some hook for processing HTML output :S
17:04 Denyerec I'd be in a better mood if I had somewhere to live
17:09 Denyerec http://paste2.org/p/7641 <-- the COA_INT isn't even rendering its wrap, let alone the content.
17:09 Denyerec Any offers as to why ?
17:10 bauschan cu guys
17:12 Denyerec A sleepy voidus is 100 times better with typo3 than a wide awake Denyerec
17:13 voidus don't think so..
17:14 voidus ask your question, Denyerec..
17:14 voidus if you have any?
17:14 Denyerec http://paste2.org/p/7641 <-- the COA_INT isn't even rendering its wrap, let alone the content.
17:14 Denyerec Trying to convince seo_basics to use some default values, see. $defSiteTitle is set as a constant in the TS Constants area.
17:15 Denyerec via
17:15 Denyerec defSiteTitle = This is the default site title
17:17 tsrepadmin how can i fetch tsconfig information in fe plugin?
17:18 tsrepadmin or is it possible to get an TCEFORM element in the frontend?
17:20 tsrepadmin just2b:
17:22 tsrepadmin just2b hattest du geantwortet?
17:23 tsrepadmin damn english
17:23 tsrepadmin just2b did you answer?
17:23 Denyerec He did not.
17:23 tsrepadmin k
17:23 tsrepadmin anybody else :-) ?
17:23 Denyerec Though now I know the German word for Answer in the past tense
17:23 Denyerec :)
17:23 Denyerec or at least "have you answered"
17:24 Denyerec Informal, I'm guessing.
17:24 voidus Denyerec: ok, normal TS... what's wrong?
17:24 many had you answered
17:24 tsrepadmin you don't know the past tense
17:24 Denyerec "haben sie geantwortet" formal ?
17:24 Denyerec voidus - it doesn't work
17:24 many hattest = had
17:24 Denyerec that's what is wrong
17:24 Denyerec EG I see *no* output
17:24 elbart re
17:24 Denyerec not even the wrap from the COA_INT #7
17:24 tsrepadmin "antwortete" past tense
17:25 many and to put it in formal in the same sense = hatten Sie geantwortet
17:25 Denyerec So what's geantwortet ?
17:25 many antwort = answer.
17:25 tsrepadmin no he meant which tense
17:25 Denyerec I figured that bit, but which tense ?
17:25 many Denyerec: the past tense is built using multiple words, just like in english
17:26 Denyerec Sounds to me like "Had you answered"
17:26 Denyerec which is past tense
17:26 elbart english-lesson for free :)
17:26 tsrepadmin hadhave a headache
17:26 tsrepadmin something like that ;-)
17:26 tsrepadmin had haven
17:26 many Denyerec: there are several past tenses
17:26 Denyerec but tsrepadmin said I didn't know the past tense
17:26 Denyerec This is the bloody problem with not being taught English at school.
17:26 elbart had haven doesn't exist
17:26 many past, perfect, plusquamperfect, ...
17:26 Denyerec (Just in case you didn't know, UK schools do NOT teach English)
17:26 tsrepadmin it's not the past tense of "antworten"
17:27 Denyerec answer -> answered
17:27 many ich antworte - ich antwortete - ich habe geantwortet - ich hatte geantwortet
17:27 Denyerec and in English ?
17:28 Denyerec i have answered / I had answered ?
17:28 many i answer, i answerred, i have answerred, i had answerred?
17:28 many i think
17:28 tsrepadmin how is called this tense, builded out of having + verb ?
17:28 Denyerec Ah so it's the present form of answered
17:28 Denyerec ?
17:28 voidus Denyerec: " UK schools do NOT teach English" ???
17:28 Denyerec not the past form of answer
17:28 Denyerec No voidus
17:28 Denyerec they do not
17:28 Denyerec they expect you to just.... know it
17:28 voidus why?
17:28 many i think the difference between have/answerred is active vs passive
17:28 Denyerec Because our education system is in a state of collapse.
17:29 Denyerec The UK education system is a complete wreck, and has been since the late 80's
17:29 Denyerec In fact if not before.
17:29 voidus khm..
17:29 Denyerec I was never taught grammar
17:29 many but i would have to ask someone who knows all those twiddly grammar words you need once in your schooltime and then never again
17:29 Denyerec beyond "Start sentences with a capital letter"
17:29 Denyerec and "End them with a full stop"
17:29 Denyerec It's shocking really.
17:29 many thats because it doesnt matter in english :P
17:29 Denyerec Heh.
17:30 Denyerec It doesn't matter in "communication" in english.
17:30 many any other language has very strict rules about grammar. :)
17:30 Denyerec but it matters a LOT i fyou wish to preserve any sense of structure in the language.
17:30 many ive never seen such rules in english.
17:30 Denyerec They are there.
17:30 Denyerec But you can be understood without them...
17:30 many and furthermore
17:30 Denyerec Which is why it's in such a mess.
17:30 many even if youve been taught english as foreign language the rules you get taught are more strict than anything ever used
17:30 Denyerec Anyway, interesting as that little tangent was, it doesn't answer my COA conundrum.
17:31 Denyerec http://paste2.org/p/7641 is broken
17:31 Denyerec and I do not know why
17:31 voidus Denyerec: aha!
17:31 Denyerec aha?
17:31 voidus Denyerec: no COA_INT inside COA_INT allowed
17:32 Denyerec Let me test without
17:32 Denyerec COA_INT on outside only
17:32 Denyerec voidus
17:32 voidus btw, i did learn english for 15 years now. and without great success so far
17:32 Denyerec If you ever visit the UK
17:32 Denyerec I will buy you a meal.
17:32 many happy meal?
17:32 Denyerec A very happy meal.
17:33 voidus :)
17:33 Denyerec I would say "Buy you a drink" but as I don't drink, I don't make the assumption that everyone else does either.
17:33 Denyerec Though you ARE from Russia.... and the stereotype says all Ruskies are big drinkers :)
17:34 voidus no, not really :) at least around me)
17:34 Denyerec Well I'll be :)
17:34 Denyerec A meal it is then :)
17:35 voidus ok, i'll remember that :)
17:35 Denyerec now...
17:35 Denyerec 7.wrap = <title>{$defSiteTitle} : |</title>
17:35 Denyerec it eats the space between : and |
17:36 Denyerec but I don't want to add &nbsp; because it's for seo purposes.
17:37 voidus hm... .noTrimWrap ?
17:38 voidus i mean, .stdWrap.noTrimWrap
17:38 Denyerec set that to 1 ?
17:40 just2b_ no, take a look at tsref how it works
17:40 tsrepadmin hi just2b
17:41 just2b_ hi tsrepadmin
17:41 tsrepadmin did you read my question?
17:42 just2b_ no
17:42 tsrepadmin How can I show a TCEFORM element in the frontend?
17:43 just2b_ i guess not easy
17:43 tsrepadmin not?
17:43 just2b_ what do you wanna do?
17:44 tsrepadmin i want to implement a formular like that one in the backend
17:45 tsrepadmin tabel with attributs a b c
17:45 tsrepadmin you cann add tableelements in the backend, and get a formular where you can set a b c
17:46 just2b_ why not using the formwizard?
17:46 tsrepadmin i have 5 relations into that table (fe_user, etc), and these relations are stored in different Storage folders
17:46 tsrepadmin it's an ajax app, is there using the form wizzard possible?
17:47 Denyerec http://paste2.org/p/7643 is how I understand the documentation.
17:48 just2b_ why shouldnt it
17:48 tsrepadmin i don't know the form wizzard
17:52 Denyerec voidus 7.noTrimwrap = | <title>{$defSiteTitle} : |</title> | does not seem to work.
17:52 Denyerec Wait I think it needs a capital W
17:52 Denyerec Meh, no.
17:52 Denyerec Still no worky
17:54 tsrepadmin where can i find the form wizard?
17:56 Denyerec 7.stdWrap.noTrimWrap = | <title>{$defSiteTitle} : |</title> |
17:56 Denyerec POW
18:14 dax77 hi there :)
18:14 just2b_ hi dax
18:44 tsrepadmin dax77: is there a form wizard?
18:47 dax77 tsrepadmin: what form?
18:53 tsrepadmin just2b told that i could use the form wizard to solve a problem, but he didn't told me where i could find that wizard. and i don't find it anywhere
18:55 dax77 tsrepadmin: a mail form?
18:59 dax77 I think there is another extension needed, I don't see the wizzard either
18:59 dax77 sorry, g2g
19:16 Atre ola friends, anyone know how I can clear a top level subpart style and apply a new one?
19:17 Atre I tried this but it doesn't work:
19:17 Atre subparts.CONTENT_LEFT >
19:17 Atre subparts.CONTENT_LEFT < styles.content.getLeft
19:17 Atre subparts.CONTENT_LEFT.stdWrap.wrap = <div id="blabla">| </div>
19:41 smurfslayer hm is it possible to "directly" link datasets onto more than one page?
19:42 smurfslayer i.e. i have datasets in a sysfolder, but they should be available on every page
20:00 dokma hi girls and guys
20:00 dokma can you tell me where can I read about xclassing?
20:00 just2b_ dokma take one example and you understand
20:01 dokma do you know some common one?
20:04 just2b_ take kj_lightbox, doesnt matter
20:18 Atre anyone know how I can clear a top level subpart style and apply a new one on a lowerpage?
20:19 Atre searched and searched no luck I know it's easy, I must be missing something small
20:25 AlexTheGer1 HI there
20:26 AlexTheGer1 I'm building a GMENU and was wondering, how I have to user "applyTotalW", so that it adds the width of the previously generated menuitem.
20:27 AlexTheGer1 user = use
21:29 zenonx Hi. I would like know if Typo3 supports custom content types - I don't know what's exactly name of this feature (content prototyping?) but it enables website admin to create new content by defining custom fields that will held some data in them (e.g. for real estate listings it would be house address, price, photo, contact number etc.). Then you can simple add new content based on this structure and display it on webpage using cu
21:29 zenonx possible with Typo3? I'm playing with it today, I read lot of documentation but can't find the answer. Example of what I want are Content Construction Kit (http://drupal.org/project/CCK) & Views (http://drupal.org/project/views) modules for Drupal.
21:32 just2b_ yeah it does
21:32 just2b_ it is called a FCE with templa voilda
21:32 just2b_ voila
21:32 zenonx TemplaVoila
21:32 zenonx oh
21:32 zenonx I was going to ask if this is what I'm looking for
21:32 zenonx thanks
21:32 just2b_ np
21:34 zenonx But is this module in it's mature stage? I mean, can it be used in production pages? In fact I'm I would prefer to have something like this integrated as main feature
21:34 just2b_ yeah sure it is mature
21:36 zenonx Ok, so I will continue reading documentation & check some other systems and possibly return here with more questions, thx again.
21:41 Atre just2b thanks for cool tabs! : )
21:42 just2b_ altre thx for your comment.. hope you did rate them also?
21:43 Atre not I will right now!
21:43 just2b_ ;)
21:45 just2b_ hope you can read my pm cause not sure if this nick registred
21:45 Atre nope. no pm. your nick seems to be ghost
21:45 just2b_ will be back in a min
21:45 Atre still ghost
21:46 just2b_ drop me a mail > (obscured mail address)
21:46 Atre k
21:55 just2b_ damn thing
21:57 Atre just2b: /msg nickserv ghost originalnick yourpassword
21:58 just2b_ so /msg just2b_ just2b pwd?
21:59 Atre nope /msg nickserv ghost just2b yourpassword
22:16 num000_ is anyone using WURFL here?
22:16 num000_ is anyone using WURFL here?
22:16 num000_ pardon
22:16 just2b 04damn now
22:51 theconic hey guys, i need the logout button as a content element, but only the button, without the "Username: xxx"
22:52 theconic how do i have to configure the login button
22:53 theconic it doesn't matter for me whether i use the normal login plugin, or the newloginbox, or loginbox.macmade........
22:53 theconic does someone have a way to do this?
22:53 just2b 04take a look if there is any class around and hide it with css
22:54 theconic er, kk
22:54 psychocat_ or edit the template for the logout sreen
22:54 theconic what is the css declaration for hiding? ^^
22:54 psychocat_ display:none
22:54 theconic thanks
22:55 theconic i'm back in a minute...
22:59 theconic oh damn, i love typo3 :D - thanks just2b & psychocat ;)
23:00 just2b 04;)
23:01 theconic hm, can i also make a "normal" link out of it with css?
23:01 just2b you can make it look like sure
23:01 just2b background:transparent; border: 0px;
23:01 theconic now it's still a button... a link would fit better to the design
23:02 theconic öh, ok, back in one more minute
23:13 theconic hm, no, that doesn't work
23:13 theconic i mean the button "logout" -> i want it not to be a button but to be a link, like <a href="logout">logout</a>
23:14 theconic of course that doesn't make sense, this link, but you know what i mean?
23:16 just2b style it as a like
23:17 theconic i think the class "csc-form-fieldcell" is the button... hope that's right
23:19 just2b dont know it by heart
23:19 theconic the code is <td class="csc-form-fieldcell"><input name="submit" value="Logout" type="submit"></td>
23:21 theconic and this thing shall be a link, and i have to style the class "csc-form-fieldcell" to make it a link, if that's right so far i'll try it...
23:22 just2b no csc-form... input {}
23:23 theconic mom
23:25 theconic rofl! damn, that looks funny ^^ next try...
23:26 theconic i still don't know how this should become a link...
23:26 theconic i want it to be like
23:26 theconic <a href="***" ***** >Logout</a>
23:36 theconic ok, now the background and the border is away, but it's still a button and no link...
23:37 theconic is there a possibility to make a normal link that logs you out?
23:39 just2b sure
23:40 theconic ok, and how do i have to write this link?
23:40 theconic or is there a "generate logout link" function in typo3 that i didn't recognize...
23:44 Hendrix If I disable caching for a page does RealURL have to display /nc/ in the beginning of the URL?
23:47 AlexTheGer1 hi there
23:49 AlexTheGer1 is there a bug with png and IE7? If I display my Typo3 Site with Opera everything looks fine, but once I start IE7 the generated images seem to be lighter

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