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#TYPO3 IRC log from : Saturday 29 September 2007

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01:44 Hendrix Quiet here tonight...
03:58 Hendrix Serious tinyRTE problems here...
04:22 ries Hendrix: hry
04:22 ries hey
04:22 Hendrix Hey!
04:22 ries I am far from a RTE guru, but what's the prob?
04:23 Hendrix Getting tinyRTE to keep a viable track of br:s and p:s
04:25 Hendrix Basically you don't want to store <p>-tags in the database but add them when content is fetched from the database.
04:25 Hendrix However you want to preserve both p:s and br:s as they were when the editor entered them.
04:29 ries Hendrix: well, don't forget that tinyRTE is quite buggy....
04:30 Hendrix Well htmlAreaRTE yields bad code...
10:04 tsrepadmin hello #typo3!
11:08 tsrepadmin hi just2b
11:09 just2b hi tsrepadmin
11:09 tsrepadmin still don't know what you meant by form wizard
11:09 tsrepadmin i just know a project what i thought wouldn't be finished
11:09 just2b the normal content element form to create a form
11:10 tsrepadmin oh
11:10 just2b or did I missunderstand you?
11:10 tsrepadmin but how could i load this ce with ajax?
11:10 tsrepadmin I'm not sure
11:11 just2b just need 2 lines of code
11:11 tsrepadmin eID ?
11:11 just2b no
11:11 just2b not necessary
11:12 just2b $conf = array('tables' => 'tt_content','source' => $ids,'dontCheckPid' => 1);
11:12 just2b $ce .= '<div>'.$this->cObj->RECORDS($conf).'</div>';
11:12 tsrepadmin why donCheckPid ?
11:13 just2b check tsref
11:13 tsrepadmin well let me try that out...
11:15 tsrepadmin just2b I just have the ce form elements: mailform, search form, login form
11:16 just2b mailform is ok
11:17 tsrepadmin where can I add form elements there?
11:18 just2b in the wizard.. just press 1 time save
11:19 tsrepadmin no, we misunderstodd each other
11:19 tsrepadmin I don't need a simpüle form
11:19 tsrepadmin I need a form with which I can create elements in the be
11:20 tsrepadmin You know the CD Database example
11:20 just2b not really
11:21 tsrepadmin Just imagine an extension where you can add CDs to a database, which you can search in the frontend
11:21 tsrepadmin And in the backend you cann add CDs by default, because it's like this if have a table tx_usercd
11:21 tsrepadmin and the CDs have attribute author, name, etc
11:22 tsrepadmin the authors etc are related to another table
11:22 tsrepadmin you can now edit the TSConfig TCEFORM to set a special Storage folder for each attribute related to another table (like author)
11:23 tsrepadmin And get this correct form in the backend if you want to add a CD
11:23 dokma can I have your attention please, I've got a crying client on the phone (no dramatizing here)
11:23 tsrepadmin I want this form in the frontend
11:23 dokma I've a page that is 'hide in menu'
11:23 dokma and when I'm logged into backend I can see it in the frontend
11:23 dokma but when I log out
11:23 tsrepadmin this is correct dokma
11:23 dokma the page is not visible but just shows the front page
11:24 dokma even though I put the address in the address bar?
11:24 tsrepadmin no, that case you should see it
11:24 dokma I believed so
11:25 tsrepadmin mybe its not just hidden in menu but also hidden itself
11:25 dokma what could cause the glitch?
11:25 dokma no
11:25 dokma I'm sure it's unihidden
11:25 tsrepadmin just2b got i explain it right now?
11:25 dokma I do have a redirection
11:25 dokma of 404 to the front page
11:25 dokma so somehow it looks as if though it cannot find that page ?
11:25 tsrepadmin dokma in my typo3 i cannot see it only if i hide the page
11:26 dokma yes, I agree that it is the normal behaviour
11:26 just2b dokma and the page is not disabled? are you sure
11:26 dokma it must be that I messed something up
11:26 tsrepadmin maybe you have a hidden parent page
11:26 dokma I'm positive
11:26 dokma I'll tripple check now
11:26 just2b use the checkbox "hide in meno" and not the page type
11:27 tsrepadmin check if you have a parent page of the page wich is hidden
11:27 just2b parent page can be hidden, no prob with that
11:27 tsrepadmin got to take a shower. just2b if you have an answer to my question it would be perfect. it would be enough if i could load the tsconfig in the frontend to use it
11:28 dokma yes, it is on hide in menu not hide page
11:28 tsrepadmin i know i could use TS, but I don't want to administrate both TS AND TSConfig
11:28 just2b dokma sorry never know what what is... so checkbox instead of dropdown?
11:29 dokma here is the page: http://www.attractanddate.com/products/basic-playboy-download/
11:29 dokma I verified it again
11:30 dokma it's settings are on Hide page: unchecked, Type: standard, Hide in menu: checked
11:30 just2b works for me
11:30 dokma what do you see?
11:30 just2b Learn and get inspired from 10 men who went from zero t
11:31 dokma that is the home page content
11:31 dokma it gets shown insted of the page itself
11:31 just2b ah yes
11:31 dokma I'll go kill that redirection
11:31 just2b can have a BE admin account?
11:33 dokma sure
11:33 dokma check it out now
11:33 dokma it throws a not found error
11:34 dokma but when I log in it shows the page normally
11:34 dokma give me a minute
11:34 dokma I'll be back
11:34 just2b http://www.attractanddate.com/products/basic-playboy-download/?no_cache=1 > Regular MP3 64 kbps - 30,0 MB
11:44 CarstenBausW hi
11:45 tsrepadmin just2b still no idea?
11:45 just2b no, my form ce works fine
11:46 CarstenBausW anybody knows the server of the german t3 irc chat?
11:46 just2b CarstenBausW there is no german irc chat
11:46 just2b this is the only one and there are enough germans here too, official language is still english ;)
11:46 CarstenBausW hum, in the past there was a german chat =)
11:47 CarstenBausW okay okay =)
11:47 just2b yeah in the past we lived in caves and hat no tv too ;)
11:47 CarstenBausW so, im having troubles with directmail and multilanguage. how directmail decided wich L parameter hast to be used?
11:49 CarstenBausW i tried to set fe_users.language to DE and hoped that directmail is looking in sys_languages for the uid. but no effekt =(
11:50 just2b sorry dont know that much about dmail
11:50 CarstenBausW or does the fe_users.language need the id of the sys_language?
11:53 tsrepadmin well, got to catch the train. thx just2b. cya
12:01 CarstenBausW google also knows nothing :P
12:17 dokma just2b thanks for the help
12:17 dokma I managed to fix it somehow
12:17 dokma after I removed the 404 handling
12:18 dokma and made the containing page not an advanced type but a shortcut
12:18 dokma it started working
12:18 dokma hopefully it won't come back
13:01 Hendrix Anyone here talented with tinyRTE and T3 standard wrapping of elements?
13:07 Hendrix I seem to be stuck between having all my content wrapped in P-tags or having no p-tags at all.
13:25 machoka Is anyone home?
13:27 Hendrix I am.
13:27 Hendrix Or rather I'm at work. :(
13:28 machoka aaahh ! hope i'm not disturbing. i'd like some help on fontresize please
13:28 machoka the extension
13:30 Hendrix Never used it unfortunately. What does it do?
13:33 machoka Sorry. See! i installed it but it's not working with firefox .
13:37 machoka Check this out . www.sourdaveugle.ch/index.php?id=1 at the right hand corner: option de lecture A and A+ . Try clicking on A+ on internet explorer
13:41 machoka Hendrix you still there
13:48 Hendrix Why does it to be done in T3?
13:48 AlexTheGer1 Hi There
13:48 Hendrix Why not do it in pure CSS? Much more accesible.
13:48 AlexTheGer1 I wanted to generate a GMENU and want to add after each Link one grafic. How can I do this?
13:49 just2b with wrap or 20 = IMAGE ..
13:57 AlexTheGer1 is it also possible to generate this image out of a given text and a given font?
14:05 voidus AlexTheGer1: yes
14:14 AlexTheGer1 voidus: how do I do this?
14:15 voidus AlexTheGer1: example: http://phpfi.com/265770
14:20 ries morning
14:20 just2b hi ries ;)
14:21 ries Hey just2b
14:22 just2b but already bye again.. seeing today the gf again after 3weeks ;)
15:24 cookiestar hi
15:25 cookiestar i want to change the layouts in the text element. how can i do this?
15:37 CarstenBaus2 any directmail professionals available?
15:37 cookiestar any idea?
15:39 CarstenBaus2 is there ANY way in direct mail to read the newsletter with L=1 parameter dynamic by an entry in fe_users data?
15:41 Hendrix cookietar: How do you mean change the layout?
15:41 cookiestar now can give a text 5 layout types.
15:42 Hendrix Are you using TemplaVoila?
15:42 cookiestar on what can i see this?
15:43 Hendrix If you have installed the Templa Voila extension.
15:43 cookiestar just a moment, i look
15:44 cookiestar no, the extension is not installed
15:45 Hendrix Okey. Then I'm not sure I can help you.
15:47 cookiestar do you see the screenshot?
15:47 Hendrix Nope.
15:48 cookiestar http://andreas-friedrich.info/layouts.jpg
15:54 cookiestar you know what i mean?
15:56 voidus cookiestar: you can add/delete this layouts using TSConfig and change CE rendering depeding on this/your layouts using typoscript
15:57 cookiestar ok. can you describe the fastest way to do this? sorry i´m a beginner in typo3 - but i will improve my skills in t3
16:14 cookiestar voidus?
16:38 cookiestar can anybody help me?
16:54 silithlas hi, how can I preview a news before it to be published? I should use draft workspace? Thanks
16:56 voidus silithlas: use draft workspace, or use "hide" checkbox
16:58 silithlas but if I hide the content, I cannot preview it
17:00 silithlas I think the problem is, those are news from tt_news, they are put in a sysfolder, and if I click on save and preview, it tries to show me the sysfolder :)
17:18 dokma silithlas: draft workspace has a preview functionality to it
17:18 dokma and much more than that
17:18 dokma so you should really get into learning it
17:25 machoka This is a friend in need. Has any of you ladies and gentlemen tryed installing the FONTRESIZE extension?
17:26 machoka I'm in a major fix and i might need some help.
17:31 Tim__ just a tip for the extension... put the Labels... e.g. "Normal text size" in locallang.xml files
17:36 machoka Thanks but my prob is that its working on IE but not of FF. Check this out : Options de lecture , lecture A and A+ and the right hand corner http://www.sourdaveugle.ch/index.php?id=1
17:36 machoka Thanx
17:40 CarstenBaus1 hi again. this language problem in direct mail is realy realy stupid.
17:40 CarstenBaus1 anybody using directmail?
17:42 CarstenBaus1 i dont want to setup a seperate page for every language. wanna create a directmail with language overlay funktions. but there seems to be no way to generate the L=1 parameter by fe_users.sys_language_uid =(
17:55 CarstenBaus1 okay, seems nobody using directmail
17:56 machoka Wait wait
17:57 machoka i'm using the directmail but i don't seem to get what you'd like to do
17:58 pmaidment Hi guys, does anyone know where I can get the Firefox patch for HTMLArea (as per http://bugs.typo3.org/view.php?id=0005266)
17:58 machoka i just installed it to get the direct mail subscribers but not to sned mail
18:01 voidus pmaidment: just update on newer version of FF
18:01 CarstenBaus1 directmail fetches the content before fe_user data are submitted into the template. i need it in the other was to give the module setup the languageparameter
18:03 pmaidment I think I have sussed it...not so much about the browser I use but the browser my client uses, want to make sure their install is stable
19:59 theconic hello, i got a css question (don't know where else i can ask this)
19:59 theconic h1, h2 { font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif; } is valid or h1 an for h2
19:59 theconic how can i write this for multiple classes?
20:00 theconic can i write .topmenu, .footer { font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif; }
20:01 theconic or isn't it possible to write multiple classes together
20:04 Hendrix It is possible and your syntax is correct.
20:06 theconic cool ^^
20:06 theconic thanks ;)
20:07 Hendrix You're welcome.
20:08 theconic because selfhtml.org only tells it with the example "h1, h2" and not with classes... but i know here's always someone who can help me ^^
20:13 Hendrix Well google can't teach you everything.
20:57 ries Hendrix: theconic indeed... some websites do explain things totally wrong
21:00 Hendrix ries: Unfortunately the Typo3 documentation and tutorials could really need some love...
21:05 theconic yes, the tutorials aren't the best ones... Typo3 is one of those projects who survive by their community, by you, so congretulations ;)
21:07 Hendrix Also I think that all te backwards compatibility has hurt the project somewhat. Much of the documentation is severly outdated.
21:35 ries Hendrix: typo3 by itself needs lot's of love :)
21:36 Hendrix That is very true. Watched some slides from the introduction of Typo3 5.0 and they looked very interesting.
21:41 theconic when will there be a Typo3 5.0 ? i thought Typo3 v.4 was still "new" do they work already on typo3 5.0?
21:47 ries 5 is in the making
21:47 ries but will not be ready for 1-2 years i think
21:53 theconic does someone have a tutorial for tt_guest ?!?
21:53 theconic please in english, german, italian or french ^^
21:56 ries theconic: I think nobody uses that anymore
21:57 theconic :-( what shall i use instead?
21:57 ptrci how i can fix this "TYPO3 Fatal Error: Extension key "sv" was NOT loaded! (t3lib_extMgm::extPath)" ?
21:58 theconic why does nobody use it anymore an what is the best option?!? or at least "an" option
22:01 voidus_ theconic: what do you need? guestbook?
22:01 theconic yes
22:02 voidus_ use ve_guestbook
22:02 theconic ok, thx. and why does noone use tt_guest "anymore"?
22:02 theconic how do i see this next time when searching for an extension?
22:03 theconic that it's not used anymore...
22:04 voidus_ it's not used because it's freezed.
22:04 voidus_ it have few features, etc.
22:04 voidus_ ve_guestbook is a most poweful guestbook extension for now
22:04 theconic ok... thanks, i've just installed ve_guestbook
22:05 voidus_ next time just ask here... "what is the best forum" or "what is a best gallery"
22:07 theconic i love the typo3 community... wonder when it's the first time that i can help a newbie ;)
22:08 theconic oh, yes, there is one more question: "what is the best gallery" ? .D
22:08 voidus_ depends on your needs
22:08 theconic hm, ok...
22:09 voidus_ if you need a gallery with DAM support or without DAM support
22:09 theconic DAM? Damn... what's that?
22:10 voidus_ Digital Media Asset.. it's an extension with key 'dam'
22:10 theconic what's the advantage with DAM?
22:10 voidus_ it allows to manage your files (it replace "file" module) and manage file metainfo
22:11 voidus_ also it allows categorisation of files, etc.
22:11 ptrci i fixed thanks
22:12 theconic i don't care for metainfo
22:13 theconic think i don't need a DAM
22:14 voidus_ if so, use jm_gallery or goof_fotoboek
22:14 theconic just a gallery, i think they will all have more options than i need. what would you say is the best then?
22:15 theconic ok, i'll try later, after i have built my guestbook system successfully ;)
22:16 theconic thanks for the help
22:27 jorisw hi everyone
22:28 theconic how do i hide the fields in ve_guestbook which i don't need?
22:29 jorisw when I install tm_contentaccess no content is rendered anymore. any idea's what I could try ? I tried on another install and I get a similar problem. Some content is rendered, others not.
22:41 theconic how can i hide the fields that i dont need of the form of ve_guestbook
22:46 voidus_ theconic: using TSConfig
22:47 theconic oh oh oh... never did this, but sometime it's always the first time
22:48 voidus_ yeah
22:48 theconic ok, you tell me where (which module) i modify the TSConfig and i come back when i've worked a bit ^^
22:50 voidus_ main page -> right click -> properties
22:51 Hendrix Has anyone got good ideas for how to localize labels in a templa voila based site?
22:52 voidus_ Hendrix: which ones?
22:52 Hendrix Defining strings in TypoScript and including them in the template? Create a plugin with a locallang.xml that can keep the variables.
22:53 Hendrix For example we have a shoppingcart that is present on all pages througout the site.
22:53 Hendrix Depending on the language we would need to change it's name.
22:54 Hendrix Creating an element in the template and mapping it to a TS objec path seems like a cumbersome solution.
22:55 Hendrix Or for example to change the phone number to an international number when you are browsing the site in english.
22:57 jorisw Hendrix: Have you tried LFEditor ? I haven't done it with templavoila labels but it might be possible
22:58 Hendrix I'll have a look. All the documentation is regarding localizing content, but there are a lot of other things than content on a site... =)
23:04 Hendrix So you suggest that I create a language file with my custom labels and then import those values through TemplaVoila?
23:07 jorisw i must admit that it is a vague idea. I only saw that it has tools of handling for local language files.
23:08 Hendrix Yeah. But I'm more looking for the mechanism for getting those localizations into my site. =)
23:24 many see
23:24 many if its content you need to take care of two languages anyway
23:24 many if its a plugin you can easily handle it in the plugin
23:25 many although with fonnumbers i ALWAYS use the intl form anyway.
23:30 JohKa where can I find the German Channel?
23:32 voidus_ JohKa: /join #typo3-de
23:33 JohKa ok thx
23:35 theconic argh, i don't find the TS declaration to hide the form fields of ve_guestbook
23:36 theconic i only need the message field...
23:46 voidus_ theconic: not TS. TSConfig. it's not the same
23:46 voidus_ theconic: are you here?

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