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00:00 beevi2 anyone here an idea how i can use custom thumbnails for image downloads in the filelist content element?
00:00 beevi2 anyone here an idea how i can use custom thumbnails for image downloads in the filelist content element?
00:57 dokma anyone here?
00:57 dokma I've got a wrap issue
00:57 dokma anyone here?
00:57 dokma I've got a wrap issue
03:22 ries dokma: the duplicate entry is IMHO a bug somewhere in T3 core... it happens most often with ajax sort of websites
03:22 ries dokma: the duplicate entry is IMHO a bug somewhere in T3 core... it happens most often with ajax sort of websites
06:19 just2b good morning
06:19 uschi_ morning just2b :-)
06:19 just2b good morning
06:19 uschi_ morning just2b :-)
06:20 just2b hi uschi
06:21 foool Has anyone had experience with ADxMenu menus in Typo3?
06:22 just2b fool i bet no more people than the last 2 days, especially not on saturday at this time ^^
06:22 foool oh! good morning just2be
06:23 foool I thought i was the only morning person
06:24 just2b no, i am awake since 6
06:24 foool me too, got to get a life :)
06:20 just2b hi uschi
06:21 foool Has anyone had experience with ADxMenu menus in Typo3?
06:22 just2b fool i bet no more people than the last 2 days, especially not on saturday at this time ^^
06:22 foool oh! good morning just2be
06:23 foool I thought i was the only morning person
06:24 just2b no, i am awake since 6
06:24 foool me too, got to get a life :)
06:27 just2b this is my life ;) was drinking yesterday, slept at my gf's place and now work ;)
06:28 Awillys ^^
06:29 uschi_ *lol*
06:29 uschi_ but wants a life as well
06:27 just2b this is my life ;) was drinking yesterday, slept at my gf's place and now work ;)
06:28 Awillys ^^
06:29 uschi_ *lol*
06:29 uschi_ but wants a life as well
06:32 Awillys :)
06:33 just2b uschi you got a new name, thats enough ^^
06:33 uschi :)
06:34 foool here is the menus http://www.aplus.co.yu/adxmenu/
06:32 Awillys :)
06:33 just2b uschi you got a new name, thats enough ^^
06:33 uschi :)
06:34 foool here is the menus http://www.aplus.co.yu/adxmenu/
06:37 just2b fool, these are just list menus... so whats the prob?
06:37 just2b fool, these are just list menus... so whats the prob?
06:40 Awillys ^^
06:40 Awillys i prefer ypmenus
06:42 just2b should i begin working?
06:43 foool depends what you are doing
06:44 just2b making another googlemap
06:40 Awillys ^^
06:40 Awillys i prefer ypmenus
06:42 just2b should i begin working?
06:43 foool depends what you are doing
06:44 just2b making another googlemap
07:34 uschi just2b, you could help me before you start working on your googlemap
07:34 just2b rofl.. little bit late? what do you need
07:34 uschi just2b, you could help me before you start working on your googlemap
07:34 just2b rofl.. little bit late? what do you need
07:35 uschi images in RTE
07:35 uschi using DAM
07:35 uschi I can only see magic images in the browser, but not plain images
07:36 uschi and i do not understand what the difference between magic and plain images is
07:36 uschi and i ask myself why the magic images end up in htdocs/uploads/ instead of htdocs/uploadts/tx_rtehtmlarea
07:37 just2b i never use images inside the RTE field
07:38 just2b it is just ugly ;)
07:38 uschi well, i would like to use SOME images directly in RTE
07:38 just2b well I cant help there
07:39 just2b the path could be changed in install tool maybe
07:39 uschi i have icons for note, warning, background-info, that make sense also in print, means, i cannot use css background-images here
07:35 uschi images in RTE
07:35 uschi using DAM
07:35 uschi I can only see magic images in the browser, but not plain images
07:36 uschi and i do not understand what the difference between magic and plain images is
07:36 uschi and i ask myself why the magic images end up in htdocs/uploads/ instead of htdocs/uploadts/tx_rtehtmlarea
07:37 just2b i never use images inside the RTE field
07:38 just2b it is just ugly ;)
07:38 uschi well, i would like to use SOME images directly in RTE
07:38 just2b well I cant help there
07:39 just2b the path could be changed in install tool maybe
07:39 uschi i have icons for note, warning, background-info, that make sense also in print, means, i cannot use css background-images here
10:01 Denyerek [08:36] <uschi> I can only see magic images in the browser, but not plain images
10:01 uschi true
10:01 Denyerek I believe there was something to do with this mentioned in the 4.2 release notes
10:01 uschi is a known bug, fixed in 1.1
10:01 Denyerek :(
10:01 uschi just found some useful info of how to use 1.1 with bugfixes
10:02 uschi dam i mean
10:02 Denyerek DAM(n)
10:02 uschi give me a second to check my bookmarks
10:03 uschi http://www.netcreators.com/development/dam/ @ Denyerek
10:04 uschi some info about installation is available under http://wiki.typo3.org/index.php/Dam-installation
10:04 uschi Denyerec, what i do not understand is the difference of magic images and plain images
10:01 Denyerek [08:36] <uschi> I can only see magic images in the browser, but not plain images
10:01 uschi true
10:01 Denyerek I believe there was something to do with this mentioned in the 4.2 release notes
10:01 uschi is a known bug, fixed in 1.1
10:01 Denyerek :(
10:01 uschi just found some useful info of how to use 1.1 with bugfixes
10:02 uschi dam i mean
10:02 Denyerek DAM(n)
10:02 uschi give me a second to check my bookmarks
10:03 uschi http://www.netcreators.com/development/dam/ @ Denyerek
10:04 uschi some info about installation is available under http://wiki.typo3.org/index.php/Dam-installation
10:04 uschi Denyerec, what i do not understand is the difference of magic images and plain images
10:05 uschi what are the pros and cons? which one shall i make available?
10:05 uschi what are the pros and cons? which one shall i make available?
10:15 andreasbalzer hi! Can somebody tell me how to pass a pagetype to the TYPO3 function typoLink?
10:15 just2b andreasbalzer so difficult to look up parameters at tsref?
10:16 andreasbalzer no i want to do it through an extension
10:16 just2b so`? still the same question
10:17 andreasbalzer tsref is about TYPOScript, isn't it?
10:17 andreasbalzer and no, it's not type=.....
10:17 just2b so?
10:17 just2b i know it is not type
10:17 just2b tsref is also about cObj. and typolink is one
10:17 andreasbalzer ok.. i'll look it up..
10:15 andreasbalzer hi! Can somebody tell me how to pass a pagetype to the TYPO3 function typoLink?
10:15 just2b andreasbalzer so difficult to look up parameters at tsref?
10:16 andreasbalzer no i want to do it through an extension
10:16 just2b so`? still the same question
10:17 andreasbalzer tsref is about TYPOScript, isn't it?
10:17 andreasbalzer and no, it's not type=.....
10:17 just2b so?
10:17 just2b i know it is not type
10:17 just2b tsref is also about cObj. and typolink is one
10:17 andreasbalzer ok.. i'll look it up..
10:50 Denyerek well uschi
10:50 Denyerek I don't even know what a magic image is
10:50 Denyerek so I don't think I'm equipped to advise you :/
10:50 uschi does anybody else know? the difference between magic images and plain images in RTE?
10:51 uschi Denyerek, saw those links concerning dam?
10:50 Denyerek well uschi
10:50 Denyerek I don't even know what a magic image is
10:50 Denyerek so I don't think I'm equipped to advise you :/
10:50 uschi does anybody else know? the difference between magic images and plain images in RTE?
10:51 uschi Denyerek, saw those links concerning dam?
10:58 Denyerek Yeah
10:58 Denyerek Why are you using DAM, just out of interest?
10:58 Denyerek What does it provide for you to make it worth using?
10:58 uschi make images and other media searchable by keyword, category and so on
10:59 uschi Denyerek, our site is huuuuge
10:58 Denyerek Yeah
10:58 Denyerek Why are you using DAM, just out of interest?
10:58 Denyerek What does it provide for you to make it worth using?
10:58 uschi make images and other media searchable by keyword, category and so on
10:59 uschi Denyerek, our site is huuuuge
11:01 uschi hai Boonkerz :)
11:01 Boonkerz hi
11:02 Denyerek Ah right
11:02 Denyerek yes I suppose in such a large site, organising them by folder would be painful.
11:01 uschi hai Boonkerz :)
11:01 Boonkerz hi
11:02 Denyerek Ah right
11:02 Denyerek yes I suppose in such a large site, organising them by folder would be painful.
11:33 Denyerek uschi are you there?
11:33 Denyerek uschi are you there?
11:35 uschi yes
11:35 Denyerek How good is your handwriting ?
11:36 uschi i did some calligraphy in the olden times when i still had time
11:36 uschi why?
11:36 Denyerek My handwriting, for a British male, is very legible. However it is devoid of any kind of grace
11:37 Denyerek and I wondered if you had made any attempt to improve your own
11:37 Denyerek and if so, which books / resources you used.
11:38 uschi when i was a student, i spend six weeks in the bodleian library, more precisely in the duke humphreys library and had access to illuminated medieval books
11:39 uschi there used to be a british company named osmiroid that produced pens for calligraphy and they had introductions
11:39 Denyerek Hmmm.
11:39 Denyerek I am unsure if calligraphic illumination is what I'm after.
11:39 uschi there are instructions on the web as well
11:39 Denyerek I'm thikning more along the lines of copperplate or traditional english script
11:39 uschi that belongs to calligraphy as well :-)
11:35 uschi yes
11:35 Denyerek How good is your handwriting ?
11:36 uschi i did some calligraphy in the olden times when i still had time
11:36 uschi why?
11:36 Denyerek My handwriting, for a British male, is very legible. However it is devoid of any kind of grace
11:37 Denyerek and I wondered if you had made any attempt to improve your own
11:37 Denyerek and if so, which books / resources you used.
11:38 uschi when i was a student, i spend six weeks in the bodleian library, more precisely in the duke humphreys library and had access to illuminated medieval books
11:39 uschi there used to be a british company named osmiroid that produced pens for calligraphy and they had introductions
11:39 Denyerek Hmmm.
11:39 Denyerek I am unsure if calligraphic illumination is what I'm after.
11:39 uschi there are instructions on the web as well
11:39 Denyerek I'm thikning more along the lines of copperplate or traditional english script
11:39 uschi that belongs to calligraphy as well :-)
11:40 uschi i am not using carolingian minusces when i write a letter!
11:40 Denyerek HAHAHa
11:40 Denyerek Now that WOULD be impressive :D
11:40 uschi occasionally i do
11:40 Denyerek (minutes)
11:41 Denyerek or it is minutia?
11:41 Denyerek Gosh I can't spell today.
11:41 uschi minuscula
11:42 Denyerek Something similar to this:
11:42 Denyerek http://www.bumblebdesign.com/graphics/callig-copperplate.jpg
11:42 uschi http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carolingian_minuscule
11:42 Denyerek But perhaps with slightly less bravado for ordinary writing
11:43 Denyerek Yaeh that's the one, slightly Celtic.. would look awesome on the back of a postcard from a holiday abroad ;)
11:43 uschi i did use them for postcards and letters when i was at the bodleian
11:44 uschi i even wrote illuminated letters
11:40 uschi i am not using carolingian minusces when i write a letter!
11:40 Denyerek HAHAHa
11:40 Denyerek Now that WOULD be impressive :D
11:40 uschi occasionally i do
11:40 Denyerek (minutes)
11:41 Denyerek or it is minutia?
11:41 Denyerek Gosh I can't spell today.
11:41 uschi minuscula
11:42 Denyerek Something similar to this:
11:42 Denyerek http://www.bumblebdesign.com/graphics/callig-copperplate.jpg
11:42 uschi http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carolingian_minuscule
11:42 Denyerek But perhaps with slightly less bravado for ordinary writing
11:43 Denyerek Yaeh that's the one, slightly Celtic.. would look awesome on the back of a postcard from a holiday abroad ;)
11:43 uschi i did use them for postcards and letters when i was at the bodleian
11:44 uschi i even wrote illuminated letters
11:49 Denyerek nice :)
11:49 Denyerek nice :)
11:56 uschi Denyerek, here is your tutorial http://www.chiptaylor.com/ttlmnp2336-.cfm
11:57 uschi oh sorry, obviously not an online tutorial
11:56 uschi Denyerek, here is your tutorial http://www.chiptaylor.com/ttlmnp2336-.cfm
11:57 uschi oh sorry, obviously not an online tutorial
12:00 uschi Denyerec, this one
12:00 uschi http://www.zanerian.com/BairdLessons.html
12:00 uschi Denyerec, this one
12:00 uschi http://www.zanerian.com/BairdLessons.html
12:57 ries Denyerek: I send a mail to a company with your mail address. They where looking for freelancers or in-house people
12:57 ries Denyerek: I send a mail to a company with your mail address. They where looking for freelancers or in-house people
13:19 cookiestar hi
13:19 cookiestar i have a question about showpic.
13:19 cookiestar hi
13:19 cookiestar i have a question about showpic.
13:20 cookiestar when i click on a small image i get an new window with the full size of this picture. Bute i have a black border ?!?!?
13:20 cookiestar where can i diasble the black border?
13:21 cookiestar here is the source from the image window: <body bgcolor="black"><a href="javascript:close();"><img src="uploads/pics/1112232.jpg" width="512" height="413" border="0" alt="" /></a>
13:24 ries cookiestar: just a wild guess
13:24 ries but try to add a margin:0 and padding:0 to the body as a CSS style
13:24 ries brb
13:20 cookiestar when i click on a small image i get an new window with the full size of this picture. Bute i have a black border ?!?!?
13:20 cookiestar where can i diasble the black border?
13:21 cookiestar here is the source from the image window: <body bgcolor="black"><a href="javascript:close();"><img src="uploads/pics/1112232.jpg" width="512" height="413" border="0" alt="" /></a>
13:24 ries cookiestar: just a wild guess
13:24 ries but try to add a margin:0 and padding:0 to the body as a CSS style
13:24 ries brb
13:25 handy uschi: using magic image your images will be generated by image magic and have the size (width, height) you specify. plain images are scaled original images
13:27 handy and changing/deleting of original image have no effect for magic image, but plain image
13:29 cookiestar ok
13:25 handy uschi: using magic image your images will be generated by image magic and have the size (width, height) you specify. plain images are scaled original images
13:27 handy and changing/deleting of original image have no effect for magic image, but plain image
13:29 cookiestar ok
13:37 cookiestar but wehere can i change the background color in the showpic extension?
13:37 cookiestar but wehere can i change the background color in the showpic extension?
13:56 cookiestar any idea?
13:56 cookiestar any idea?
14:17 cookiestar must i change the setup.txt
14:17 cookiestar ?
14:17 cookiestar must i change the setup.txt
14:17 cookiestar ?
14:24 cookiestar were can i change this setting in typo3? must i change this in the file? bodyTag = <body bgcolor="black">
14:24 cookiestar were can i change this setting in typo3? must i change this in the file? bodyTag = <body bgcolor="black">
14:25 dokma hi guys
14:25 dokma I've got a small sample of TS that should change my page title
14:25 dokma can't get it to work
14:25 dokma anyone willing to take a look?
14:25 dokma hi guys
14:25 dokma I've got a small sample of TS that should change my page title
14:25 dokma can't get it to work
14:25 dokma anyone willing to take a look?
14:35 cookiestar is anybody fit with "tt_content.image"
14:35 cookiestar is anybody fit with "tt_content.image"
14:41 cookiestar i want to disable the border in the extra window
14:41 cookiestar i want to disable the border in the extra window
14:55 uschi ah thx, handy
14:57 uschi means, the plain images are used in there original size and scaled only by the html attributes width and height?
14:58 handy right
14:58 uschi means, magic images are the prefered version, somehow
14:55 uschi ah thx, handy
14:57 uschi means, the plain images are used in there original size and scaled only by the html attributes width and height?
14:58 handy right
14:58 uschi means, magic images are the prefered version, somehow
15:01 handy depends on for what.. usually i use magic images but some people like to use plain images because they change the images per ftp
15:03 uschi hm, what has that to do with it?
15:03 uschi plain images are not copied to some folder, then, as magic images are?
15:04 uschi or what is the reason?
15:04 handy plain images are the original images you upload, for example in fileadmin/images/someimage.gif
15:01 handy depends on for what.. usually i use magic images but some people like to use plain images because they change the images per ftp
15:03 uschi hm, what has that to do with it?
15:03 uschi plain images are not copied to some folder, then, as magic images are?
15:04 uschi or what is the reason?
15:04 handy plain images are the original images you upload, for example in fileadmin/images/someimage.gif
15:05 handy magic images are a "copy" somewhere else
15:05 handy i guess uploads/..../MAGICORSOMETHINGsomeimage.gif
15:06 uschi they end up in uploads directly
15:06 handy yep
15:06 handy and if you delete the image in fileadmin the magic images still exists
15:06 handy -s
15:06 uschi hm, that is a contra
15:08 handy yes and no, you have to know this fact, otherwise you wonder where is the problem
15:05 handy magic images are a "copy" somewhere else
15:05 handy i guess uploads/..../MAGICORSOMETHINGsomeimage.gif
15:06 uschi they end up in uploads directly
15:06 handy yep
15:06 handy and if you delete the image in fileadmin the magic images still exists
15:06 handy -s
15:06 uschi hm, that is a contra
15:08 handy yes and no, you have to know this fact, otherwise you wonder where is the problem
15:10 uschi yeah, but the problem with the ftp upload exists anyway, doesn't it, because if you use the content elements image or text with image, the images are duplicated to some other folder
15:10 uschi cannot remember which one
15:10 uschi yeah, but the problem with the ftp upload exists anyway, doesn't it, because if you use the content elements image or text with image, the images are duplicated to some other folder
15:10 uschi cannot remember which one
15:38 tmjb hello got the detect language in typo3 script example if (GLOBAL::Lang==English) { do my stuf } thank you
15:39 tmjb i need this to put in templates file
15:38 tmjb hello got the detect language in typo3 script example if (GLOBAL::Lang==English) { do my stuf } thank you
15:39 tmjb i need this to put in templates file
15:41 tmjb i need something like conditions [browser = netscape][browser = opera]
15:44 tmjb maybe this is my solution [globalVar = TSFE:lang =en]
15:41 tmjb i need something like conditions [browser = netscape][browser = opera]
15:44 tmjb maybe this is my solution [globalVar = TSFE:lang =en]
15:55 tmjb tnx i solved it
15:55 tmjb tnx i solved it
16:16 andreasbalzer hi
16:17 andreasbalzer does somebody know a good DAM capable gallery with sub albums?
16:18 andreasbalzer (or any possibility to add those to ce_gallery?)
16:16 andreasbalzer hi
16:17 andreasbalzer does somebody know a good DAM capable gallery with sub albums?
16:18 andreasbalzer (or any possibility to add those to ce_gallery?)
16:21 uschi andreasbalzer, which dam version do you use?
16:21 andreasbalzer the most current
16:22 uschi you mean 1.1 RC1?
16:22 andreasbalzer yes
16:22 andreasbalzer with all new patches
16:22 uschi i need the steps to install it including the patches
16:23 andreasbalzer it's relatively easy.
16:23 andreasbalzer first, download rc 1
16:24 andreasbalzer second, perform an install of everything in it except mm_foreign if you use T3 >= 4.0 I guess
16:21 uschi andreasbalzer, which dam version do you use?
16:21 andreasbalzer the most current
16:22 uschi you mean 1.1 RC1?
16:22 andreasbalzer yes
16:22 andreasbalzer with all new patches
16:22 uschi i need the steps to install it including the patches
16:23 andreasbalzer it's relatively easy.
16:23 andreasbalzer first, download rc 1
16:24 andreasbalzer second, perform an install of everything in it except mm_foreign if you use T3 >= 4.0 I guess
16:25 andreasbalzer third, go to http://www.netcreators.com/development/dam/ and download the patches
16:25 andreasbalzer (more information about patche in the T3 DAM mailinglist)
16:26 Boonkerz uschi, and what makes your uni website?
16:28 andreasbalzer uschi: do you need a guided installation?
16:29 ries andreasbalzer: I am working on my own DAM enabled gallery... not finnished yet
16:25 andreasbalzer third, go to http://www.netcreators.com/development/dam/ and download the patches
16:25 andreasbalzer (more information about patche in the T3 DAM mailinglist)
16:26 Boonkerz uschi, and what makes your uni website?
16:28 andreasbalzer uschi: do you need a guided installation?
16:29 ries andreasbalzer: I am working on my own DAM enabled gallery... not finnished yet
16:30 uschi yes andreasbalzer
16:30 andreasbalzer ries: faster faster faster :)
16:30 uschi Boonkerz, working on it
16:30 ries andreasbalzer: it's all free time ;)
16:30 andreasbalzer uschi: ok. Do you have the zip/tar/rar/whatever file of RC?
16:30 ries it's a multi user multi gallery system designed for loads of images...
16:31 uschi mom, fixing something else at the moment, andreasbalzer
16:31 ries Currently it indexes around 1200 files/sec
16:31 andreasbalzer if yes: extract it and copy the files to the typo3conf/ext folder
16:31 uschi half an hour or so pls
16:31 ries working on a good DB backend...
16:31 andreasbalzer oki
16:32 andreasbalzer ries: please add those things: slimbox enabled, slideshow, print, save, sub albums (this one is very important as no other extension has it...), and a good detail view. This includes copyright information, etc... I'm sure everyone would love it :)
16:32 Boonkerz we use jm_gallery
16:32 ries don't know what save does... but it will have/can have these features
16:33 andreasbalzer to save the image to your computer
16:33 andreasbalzer and maybe some Wallpaper functionality would be nice too... ;)
16:33 ries andreasbalzer: right mouse click save to desktop has every browser :D
16:33 andreasbalzer yes, but most people aren't smart enough for this smart way to download things ;)
16:33 ries a lot of these items are more template issues rather then a gallery engine...
16:34 andreasbalzer yeah
16:34 andreasbalzer but anyway.. those items have to be integrated somehow..
16:30 uschi yes andreasbalzer
16:30 andreasbalzer ries: faster faster faster :)
16:30 uschi Boonkerz, working on it
16:30 ries andreasbalzer: it's all free time ;)
16:30 andreasbalzer uschi: ok. Do you have the zip/tar/rar/whatever file of RC?
16:30 ries it's a multi user multi gallery system designed for loads of images...
16:31 uschi mom, fixing something else at the moment, andreasbalzer
16:31 ries Currently it indexes around 1200 files/sec
16:31 andreasbalzer if yes: extract it and copy the files to the typo3conf/ext folder
16:31 uschi half an hour or so pls
16:31 ries working on a good DB backend...
16:31 andreasbalzer oki
16:32 andreasbalzer ries: please add those things: slimbox enabled, slideshow, print, save, sub albums (this one is very important as no other extension has it...), and a good detail view. This includes copyright information, etc... I'm sure everyone would love it :)
16:32 Boonkerz we use jm_gallery
16:32 ries don't know what save does... but it will have/can have these features
16:33 andreasbalzer to save the image to your computer
16:33 andreasbalzer and maybe some Wallpaper functionality would be nice too... ;)
16:33 ries andreasbalzer: right mouse click save to desktop has every browser :D
16:33 andreasbalzer yes, but most people aren't smart enough for this smart way to download things ;)
16:33 ries a lot of these items are more template issues rather then a gallery engine...
16:34 andreasbalzer yeah
16:34 andreasbalzer but anyway.. those items have to be integrated somehow..
16:36 andreasbalzer any release dates so far? ;)
16:36 ries if I look at slimbox, then we just talk about a javascript item..
16:36 uschi andreasbalzer, will you be here tomorrow?
16:36 ries there is really no need to build it into a gallery
16:36 andreasbalzer uschi: where here?
16:37 uschi in this our virtual living room
16:37 andreasbalzer ries: oh yes. it's a trend meanwhile
16:37 andreasbalzer uschi: i can be :)
16:37 uschi then we could try the dam stuff tomorrow?
16:38 uschi more precisely tomorrow morning?
16:38 andreasbalzer sure
16:38 uschi great
16:38 andreasbalzer 6:00 ? :D
16:38 uschi noooooooo
16:38 uschi make it 9:00
16:38 andreasbalzer *joking* ok. ;)
16:38 uschi andreasbalzer, it can be done on windows?
16:39 andreasbalzer i never tried but hey.. at least it could crash.. so why not?
16:39 uschi i do not want it to crash :)
16:36 andreasbalzer any release dates so far? ;)
16:36 ries if I look at slimbox, then we just talk about a javascript item..
16:36 uschi andreasbalzer, will you be here tomorrow?
16:36 ries there is really no need to build it into a gallery
16:36 andreasbalzer uschi: where here?
16:37 uschi in this our virtual living room
16:37 andreasbalzer ries: oh yes. it's a trend meanwhile
16:37 andreasbalzer uschi: i can be :)
16:37 uschi then we could try the dam stuff tomorrow?
16:38 uschi more precisely tomorrow morning?
16:38 andreasbalzer sure
16:38 uschi great
16:38 andreasbalzer 6:00 ? :D
16:38 uschi noooooooo
16:38 uschi make it 9:00
16:38 andreasbalzer *joking* ok. ;)
16:38 uschi andreasbalzer, it can be done on windows?
16:39 andreasbalzer i never tried but hey.. at least it could crash.. so why not?
16:39 uschi i do not want it to crash :)
16:46 ries what do you think about using flash in forms instead of using regular HTML forms?
16:47 andreasbalzer who?
16:47 ries andreasbalzer: you for example...
16:47 uschi ries, why would you want to do it?
16:47 andreasbalzer I don't think that it's good.
16:47 ries I am in doubth using flex for RAD for some of my forms
16:47 ries why do you think it's not good?
16:47 andreasbalzer I'd go for accessibility
16:48 uschi you can have accessible flash documents
16:48 ries I agree with uschi ....
16:48 andreasbalzer without flash.. ..for sure?
16:48 uschi but the problem is still, that there are a lot of users around who do not have installed the required flash version
16:48 andreasbalzer right
16:49 uschi depends on how you are doing it, ries
16:49 ries I am concentrating on windows and OSX users...
16:49 ries uschi: Hopefully correct.. with flash it enabled me to make a much better user experiance...
16:49 andreasbalzer our school didn't install flash for years.. and now they have an old version. And that's only one example
16:46 ries what do you think about using flash in forms instead of using regular HTML forms?
16:47 andreasbalzer who?
16:47 ries andreasbalzer: you for example...
16:47 uschi ries, why would you want to do it?
16:47 andreasbalzer I don't think that it's good.
16:47 ries I am in doubth using flex for RAD for some of my forms
16:47 ries why do you think it's not good?
16:47 andreasbalzer I'd go for accessibility
16:48 uschi you can have accessible flash documents
16:48 ries I agree with uschi ....
16:48 andreasbalzer without flash.. ..for sure?
16:48 uschi but the problem is still, that there are a lot of users around who do not have installed the required flash version
16:48 andreasbalzer right
16:49 uschi depends on how you are doing it, ries
16:49 ries I am concentrating on windows and OSX users...
16:49 ries uschi: Hopefully correct.. with flash it enabled me to make a much better user experiance...
16:49 andreasbalzer our school didn't install flash for years.. and now they have an old version. And that's only one example
16:50 andreasbalzer you can use flash but then use a fallback solution
16:50 uschi a customer of my boyfriend had trouble with his flash made homepage last year, he could not look at it
16:50 uschi windows user!
16:50 andreasbalzer for sure :)
16:50 andreasbalzer nothing makes a nicer sound while crashing than windows
16:50 ries andreasbalzer: I am not interested in fall back solution since most users can fallback on other computers... we talk about a small percentage anyways...
16:51 uschi it really depends on the page and the people it is meant for, ries, at least in my eyes
16:51 ries I also don't want to make a website that uses fallback technology from the 90ths...
16:51 uschi sure
16:51 ries uschi: it's just a form for adding content, the whole webside by itself will run on HTML/CSS
16:51 uschi but between that and having important interaction features in flash is a difference
16:51 ries it's just for adding content and managing galleries
16:52 uschi and the flash thing is more comfortable for the users?
16:52 uschi then it is alright
16:52 uschi the question is what you win with using flash
16:52 ries it should give the user the same comfort... it just enabled me to make the application faster :)
16:53 ries at least twice as fast
16:53 handy uschi: i wouldn't say it's a problem.. images can still be uploaded to the other folder :)
16:53 handy the pro of magic images is
16:53 handy loading of the page could be faster
16:54 uschi ries, is this some acceleration that the user will really feel?
16:54 uschi the difference between one and two seconds
16:54 uschi handy
16:50 andreasbalzer you can use flash but then use a fallback solution
16:50 uschi a customer of my boyfriend had trouble with his flash made homepage last year, he could not look at it
16:50 uschi windows user!
16:50 andreasbalzer for sure :)
16:50 andreasbalzer nothing makes a nicer sound while crashing than windows
16:50 ries andreasbalzer: I am not interested in fall back solution since most users can fallback on other computers... we talk about a small percentage anyways...
16:51 uschi it really depends on the page and the people it is meant for, ries, at least in my eyes
16:51 ries I also don't want to make a website that uses fallback technology from the 90ths...
16:51 uschi sure
16:51 ries uschi: it's just a form for adding content, the whole webside by itself will run on HTML/CSS
16:51 uschi but between that and having important interaction features in flash is a difference
16:51 ries it's just for adding content and managing galleries
16:52 uschi and the flash thing is more comfortable for the users?
16:52 uschi then it is alright
16:52 uschi the question is what you win with using flash
16:52 ries it should give the user the same comfort... it just enabled me to make the application faster :)
16:53 ries at least twice as fast
16:53 handy uschi: i wouldn't say it's a problem.. images can still be uploaded to the other folder :)
16:53 handy the pro of magic images is
16:53 handy loading of the page could be faster
16:54 uschi ries, is this some acceleration that the user will really feel?
16:54 uschi the difference between one and two seconds
16:54 uschi handy
16:55 ries uschi: I do have to do some form validation and I wouldn't have to re-load anything...
16:55 uschi because the images are smaller, right
16:55 ries I know I can do it with ajax.... but then I have to load JS frameworks to do it.. and I MUST have to create a fall back for users that don't have javascript enabled...
16:55 ries it will make things more hard for me... for the user it will feel the same
16:56 handy yes but if you have lots of large images it could be lots of seconds :)
16:56 handy and you dont need no extern image editor to scale
16:57 uschi handy, i need images via RTE, because i want my authors to be able to use some symbolic icons, like warning, tip, good, bad, background info
16:57 uschi those images are small and do not need any resizing
16:57 uschi i wonder if it is a possible to allow rte images only from one or two specific folders
16:58 handy but i guess your authors don't upload them per ftp
16:58 handy they would change them in the be
16:59 uschi they will not be entitled to change them, they may use them :)
16:55 ries uschi: I do have to do some form validation and I wouldn't have to re-load anything...
16:55 uschi because the images are smaller, right
16:55 ries I know I can do it with ajax.... but then I have to load JS frameworks to do it.. and I MUST have to create a fall back for users that don't have javascript enabled...
16:55 ries it will make things more hard for me... for the user it will feel the same
16:56 handy yes but if you have lots of large images it could be lots of seconds :)
16:56 handy and you dont need no extern image editor to scale
16:57 uschi handy, i need images via RTE, because i want my authors to be able to use some symbolic icons, like warning, tip, good, bad, background info
16:57 uschi those images are small and do not need any resizing
16:57 uschi i wonder if it is a possible to allow rte images only from one or two specific folders
16:58 handy but i guess your authors don't upload them per ftp
16:58 handy they would change them in the be
16:59 uschi they will not be entitled to change them, they may use them :)
17:00 uschi handy, i still do not see what the ftp question has to do with it
17:00 uschi if i change an image via be, will all the magic images be updated as well?
17:01 handy so make two versions - one magic image and one plain, then change the filename, clear cache an look what happen
17:01 uschi cannot at the moment
17:02 uschi have dam installed and plain image is not working because of a bug
17:02 handy the magic image will be still there
17:02 uschi will install newer dam version tomorrow
17:02 uschi sure, but i can configure it away
17:02 uschi ah, ok, that is something i can check
17:03 handy yes do it ;) have to go now
17:03 handy maybe see you later!
17:00 uschi handy, i still do not see what the ftp question has to do with it
17:00 uschi if i change an image via be, will all the magic images be updated as well?
17:01 handy so make two versions - one magic image and one plain, then change the filename, clear cache an look what happen
17:01 uschi cannot at the moment
17:02 uschi have dam installed and plain image is not working because of a bug
17:02 handy the magic image will be still there
17:02 uschi will install newer dam version tomorrow
17:02 uschi sure, but i can configure it away
17:02 uschi ah, ok, that is something i can check
17:03 handy yes do it ;) have to go now
17:03 handy maybe see you later!
17:47 martin_qwertz hi .. can someone help me with the mbl_newsevent extension?
17:47 martin_qwertz hi .. can someone help me with the mbl_newsevent extension?
18:18 martin_qwertz hi can someone help me? i get this message in the backend by using cl_joboffers:
18:18 martin_qwertz You have an error in your SQL syntax; check the manual that corresponds to your MySQL server version for the right syntax to use near 'FROM tx_clcompanydatabase_address,pages WHERE pages.uid=tx_clcompanydatab' at line 2 This may indicate a table defined in tables.php is not existing in the database!
18:18 martin_qwertz hi can someone help me? i get this message in the backend by using cl_joboffers:
18:18 martin_qwertz You have an error in your SQL syntax; check the manual that corresponds to your MySQL server version for the right syntax to use near 'FROM tx_clcompanydatabase_address,pages WHERE pages.uid=tx_clcompanydatab' at line 2 This may indicate a table defined in tables.php is not existing in the database!
18:36 bedlamhotel uschi: still around
18:36 bedlamhotel ?
18:36 uschi again :-)
18:36 uschi what's up bedlamhotel ?
18:37 bedlamhotel Earlier you mentioned a bug in DAM with 'plain image' (in RTE I guess). Just wondered what the bug was?
18:38 uschi image files are not shown in browser
18:39 uschi image browser i mean,
18:39 uschi so you cannot insert an image, tough luck
18:36 bedlamhotel uschi: still around
18:36 bedlamhotel ?
18:36 uschi again :-)
18:36 uschi what's up bedlamhotel ?
18:37 bedlamhotel Earlier you mentioned a bug in DAM with 'plain image' (in RTE I guess). Just wondered what the bug was?
18:38 uschi image files are not shown in browser
18:39 uschi image browser i mean,
18:39 uschi so you cannot insert an image, tough luck
18:41 bedlamhotel Wow. I built--and documented--an entire site without noticing that.
18:42 bedlamhotel And this unofficial 1.1 RC 1 fixes that bug?
18:43 uschi yes
18:43 uschi i can tell you more tomorrow
18:44 uschi andreasbalzer will explain all those patches to me
18:44 bedlamhotel the ones at netcreators?
18:44 uschi yes
18:41 bedlamhotel Wow. I built--and documented--an entire site without noticing that.
18:42 bedlamhotel And this unofficial 1.1 RC 1 fixes that bug?
18:43 uschi yes
18:43 uschi i can tell you more tomorrow
18:44 uschi andreasbalzer will explain all those patches to me
18:44 bedlamhotel the ones at netcreators?
18:44 uschi yes
18:45 bedlamhotel Hm. On another subject, got any opinions about any gallery extensions?
18:46 uschi i think i will try smooth gallery
18:46 uschi sounds promising to me :)
18:46 uschi but i did not try it yet
18:47 bedlamhotel Hm. I've been trying it, but as far as I'm able to tell, the flexform configuration options don't do anything at all...
18:47 uschi i like the idea of being able to choose a dam category (with subcategories), some files from a directory
18:47 uschi there are quite a few people using it
18:47 uschi and we can always ask just2b :)
18:47 bedlamhotel I've been haunting IRC in my free time trying to catch just2b to ask him about it, but he seems to have a busier socila life than me ;-)
18:48 bedlamhotel socila = social
18:48 uschi he has different times
18:48 uschi i have better chances, i guess
18:49 bedlamhotel Or I could just wait to solve this problem until next week I guess...
18:45 bedlamhotel Hm. On another subject, got any opinions about any gallery extensions?
18:46 uschi i think i will try smooth gallery
18:46 uschi sounds promising to me :)
18:46 uschi but i did not try it yet
18:47 bedlamhotel Hm. I've been trying it, but as far as I'm able to tell, the flexform configuration options don't do anything at all...
18:47 uschi i like the idea of being able to choose a dam category (with subcategories), some files from a directory
18:47 uschi there are quite a few people using it
18:47 uschi and we can always ask just2b :)
18:47 bedlamhotel I've been haunting IRC in my free time trying to catch just2b to ask him about it, but he seems to have a busier socila life than me ;-)
18:48 bedlamhotel socila = social
18:48 uschi he has different times
18:48 uschi i have better chances, i guess
18:49 bedlamhotel Or I could just wait to solve this problem until next week I guess...
18:50 bedlamhotel if ( $date >= "070917" ) { $bh_timezone = "CET" }
18:50 uschi right *g*
18:50 uschi i will miss those late night disputes with you
18:51 uschi bedlamhotel do you use some png alphatransparency fix for ie6?
18:51 bedlamhotel Hm. I may still be around late at night talking to people back here :)
18:52 bedlamhotel thought about it, but for now I've just avoided the whole issue. Which is not to say I wouldn't love to use real transparency...
18:50 bedlamhotel if ( $date >= "070917" ) { $bh_timezone = "CET" }
18:50 uschi right *g*
18:50 uschi i will miss those late night disputes with you
18:51 uschi bedlamhotel do you use some png alphatransparency fix for ie6?
18:51 bedlamhotel Hm. I may still be around late at night talking to people back here :)
18:52 bedlamhotel thought about it, but for now I've just avoided the whole issue. Which is not to say I wouldn't love to use real transparency...
18:55 uschi i need some symbolic icons that have to work on different backgrounds
18:57 bedlamhotel Right. FE or BE context?
18:58 uschi both, because they are inserted via RTE
18:55 uschi i need some symbolic icons that have to work on different backgrounds
18:57 bedlamhotel Right. FE or BE context?
18:58 uschi both, because they are inserted via RTE
19:59 uschi bedlamhotel, are you there?
19:59 bedlamhotel Hello. Yes, kind of.
19:59 uschi have a wording problem in english
19:59 uschi bedlamhotel, are you there?
19:59 bedlamhotel Hello. Yes, kind of.
19:59 uschi have a wording problem in english
20:00 uschi i have those user elements for inserting boxes with an icon for warning, tip and so on
20:00 bedlamhotel Seems like a problem I /should/ be able to help with...
20:01 uschi so now, category is named boxes with pale green background
20:01 uschi and now: with warning icon
20:01 uschi with tip icon
20:01 uschi ...
20:01 uschi dash or no dash or other solution?
20:02 bedlamhotel Huh? I have absolutely no clue what you're asking...
20:03 uschi it is about naming stuff for user elements in rte
20:03 uschi authors will have the ability to choose between different background colors for frames or boxes
20:03 uschi this is the user element category
20:04 uschi labeled something like: Boxes (pale green background)
20:04 uschi under that category i have
20:04 uschi - plain box
20:00 uschi i have those user elements for inserting boxes with an icon for warning, tip and so on
20:00 bedlamhotel Seems like a problem I /should/ be able to help with...
20:01 uschi so now, category is named boxes with pale green background
20:01 uschi and now: with warning icon
20:01 uschi with tip icon
20:01 uschi ...
20:01 uschi dash or no dash or other solution?
20:02 bedlamhotel Huh? I have absolutely no clue what you're asking...
20:03 uschi it is about naming stuff for user elements in rte
20:03 uschi authors will have the ability to choose between different background colors for frames or boxes
20:03 uschi this is the user element category
20:04 uschi labeled something like: Boxes (pale green background)
20:04 uschi under that category i have
20:04 uschi - plain box
20:05 uschi - warning box (which inserts an icon in addition to the pale green background)
20:05 uschi - tip box (same as before, but different icon)
20:07 bedlamhotel Ok...is the stuff in parentheses part of the label?
20:08 uschi yes
20:08 uschi mom tel
20:05 uschi - warning box (which inserts an icon in addition to the pale green background)
20:05 uschi - tip box (same as before, but different icon)
20:07 bedlamhotel Ok...is the stuff in parentheses part of the label?
20:08 uschi yes
20:08 uschi mom tel
21:49 bedlamhotel uschi: did your call ever finish?
21:49 bedlamhotel uschi: did your call ever finish?

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