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01:20 Ron-N1 What is TMENU, HMENU, GMENU ???? What does T,H and G stand for?
02:17 epruesse Ron-N1: Text, Hierachical and Graphical. Find the fine manual here: http://typo3.org/documentation/document-library/references/doc_core_tsref/4.1.0/view/10/4/
02:20 epruesse I'm still wondering how to get realurl to properly map a single value to multiple path segments like so: site.com/index.php?id=20&dlpath=bla/blub => site.com/pub/bla/blub Ideas anyone? Please? I really don't know where to start.
02:25 Denyerec wrong time of night to be asking.
02:26 Denyerec try again in 9 hours and you'll get a much better response.
02:30 epruesse ah. forgot that typo3 is somewhat de centric. thx, I'll try tomorrow again.
02:36 Denyerec if I was awake, and able to afford to feed myself, then I'd help you
02:36 Denyerec alas, I have to be up early tomorrow to go and work cash-in-hand laboring to pay bills.
02:37 Denyerec So you're shit outta luck.
02:46 epruesse its bugging me ... maybe i should just wait for tomorrow, but I can't really let go ... somehow
02:47 epruesse I got the nice url -> php url mapping to work using the redirect action which can use "###REMAIN_PATH###" ... but of course that's one way, and I really want automagic mapping both ways ...
02:48 kreegee somebody still here?
02:49 kreegee there are no functions in the core to send a mail to many people at the same time?
03:16 epruesse kreegee: have you tried using a comma separated list of recipients?
03:29 kreegee no
03:29 kreegee i'll probably just send them all bcc
03:29 kreegee custom header
03:30 kreegee php.net says nothing about comma separated recipients
03:30 kreegee and t3lib_div sends me to php.net
03:45 kreegee ok
03:45 kreegee its working this way :)
03:45 kreegee good enough for 4 a.m. :)
03:47 chefan anyone knows the sequence of https requests from memory?
03:47 kreegee no idea
03:47 chefan i can't remember right now if get parameters in the initial call are already encrypted or not
03:48 kreegee do you know the live http headers extension for firefox?
03:48 chefan is that part of the webdeveloper extension?
03:48 kreegee i don't know
03:48 kreegee im a webdev without webdev extension ;)
03:48 kreegee only dom inspector and livehttpheaders
03:48 chefan lol
03:49 chefan ngrep does the trick as well, technically :D
03:49 kreegee wireshark
03:49 kreegee ;)
03:50 chefan another tool that i haven't yet tried
03:51 chefan sound a bit yuppie-newage-snowboarder style to me
03:51 kreegee hehe
03:51 kreegee the old name was 1337er
03:51 kreegee ethereal
03:52 chefan ah, ok, that ticks a memory
03:53 chefan it's ported, can't be so bad
03:53 chefan well, on the other hand, linux-flash9 is ported as well...
03:54 kreegee to what?
03:54 kreegee somebody ported linux flash9 to win? :)
03:56 kreegee hm, mtv is so much better at 4am than at 4pm
03:56 chefan ported as in available in freebsd ports
03:56 kreegee ok
03:56 chefan i am lazy, you know?
03:56 kreegee bsd users can't be lazy
03:56 chefan lol
03:57 chefan you bet they can
03:57 kreegee then whats the point using bsd? ;)
03:57 chefan actually, since 6.3 i tend to fight less with a bsd than with any linux around
03:57 kreegee ok
03:57 chefan and getting even better with 7
03:57 kreegee my linux experiences are pretty limited
03:58 kreegee only terminal
03:58 kreegee and i try out desktop distros every few years
03:58 chefan in 6.3 the last big annoyance was getting flash to work and webcam support
03:58 kreegee and giv up after 4 weeks normally
03:58 chefan but 7.0 promises a lot in that context
03:59 chefan my impression is that the more popular linuxes konverge towards windowish behaviour
03:59 kreegee yeah
03:59 kreegee but onfurtunately without the software or hardware support of win
03:59 chefan ubuntu for instance seems to contain about every obscure hardware driver known to man out of the bix
03:59 chefan box
03:59 chefan which in turn is paid by a certain sluggishness
04:00 chefan fedora as well as [xk]?ubuntu tend to reboot after upgrades even more diligently than my XP SP2
04:01 kreegee thats the smaller problem
04:01 chefan and fedora 8 really fucked up flash with pulseaudio per default as well as breaking some wifi drivers
04:02 chefan i get the idea that the penguinheads are really bored lately
04:02 chefan and create problems where there were none before
04:02 kreegee yep
04:03 chefan no really, personally i am at the point where in my typical use cases a bsd is much more maintainable than any of the linuxes around
04:03 kreegee linux' problem are political, not really technical
04:03 chefan ok, i set up my system from config files with vi instead of some flashy gui. but in turn, i can install whatever windowmanager and it just works
04:04 kreegee as long as they don't have optimized 3d drivers and big software (adobe etc) it's not really ready for my desktop
04:04 chefan i tried that on xubuntu
04:04 chefan installed wmaker
04:04 kreegee for most problems you need to edit the files anyway
04:05 chefan sadly, the networkmanager that runs in gutsy por default and manages the wifi uses the gnome keyring, which in turn isn't used out of the box by wmaker
04:05 kreegee whats the bluez gui good for if you can only add devices, but not configure them
04:05 kreegee same with xorg
04:05 chefan so if just for changing the view on the X i have to get back to vi anyway, i may as well do it in the first place and save my laptop a lot of useless rubbish that's wasting ressources
04:06 chefan the xubuntu i installed on my compaq swapped oO
04:06 chefan with 512MB ram
04:06 chefan that's ridiculous
04:06 kreegee depends
04:06 kreegee 512 very small
04:07 chefan no, i wasn't compiling Java SDK ;)
04:07 chefan lol
04:07 kreegee and you probably want 100 free for apps
04:07 chefan 512MB isn't small
04:07 kreegee ram is too cheap nowadays
04:07 chefan i compiled the kernel in freebsd on a 64MB machine ;)
04:07 kreegee back in the 70ies?
04:07 chefan so, i can't consider 512MB small
04:08 kreegee hehe
04:08 chefan 70ies?
04:08 kreegee i have 2gb on my desktop and 4 on my macbook
04:08 chefan erm...
04:08 kreegee so 512 is small
04:08 chefan i remember the seventies. we weren't thinking about MB's, less about 64 of them ;)
04:08 kreegee just joking ;)
04:09 kreegee but 64 is still 20th century
04:09 kreegee 64 was 98 or so
04:09 chefan depends
04:09 kreegee today ipods have more than 64mb ram ;)
04:09 chefan if you want a solid state gateway with firewall and traffic shaping that runs on low power on compact flash, it's quite 21'st century ;)
04:10 kreegee ok, well
04:10 chefan or if you want the option to just leave your smartphone as a replacement in case a customers firewall fails
04:11 chefan besides, the funny faces are worth it :)
04:11 kreegee hehe
04:11 kreegee this reminds me of the gameboy webserver
04:11 chefan what processor is driving the gameboy?
04:12 kreegee don't know
04:12 kreegee it was a GBA
04:12 kreegee # CPU: 16.8 MHz 32-bit ARM7TDMI with embedded memory.
04:12 kreegee # Memory: 32 kilobyte + 96 kilobyte VRAM (internal to the CPU), 256 kilobyte WRAM (external to the CPU).
04:12 kreegee thats probably not enough for typo3 ;)
04:13 chefan lol
04:13 chefan well, arm is ok for bsd :)
04:13 chefan and i think there are distributions around that could run on a gameboy
04:13 kreegee hehe
04:14 kreegee there are very small linux' as well
04:14 chefan the best thing is the backup 8Mhz Z80
04:14 kreegee yeah
04:14 chefan for gameboy and gameboy color compatibility
04:14 kreegee just saw that on wikipedia
04:14 chefan my first computer was running on a z80 with 2MHz :D
04:14 chefan yep, i googled too
04:14 kreegee hehe
04:15 kreegee i started with 100mhz or so
04:15 kreegee dads toshiba laptop
04:15 chefan my first laptop was a compaq aero subnote with 33Mhz as far as i remember
04:16 chefan later on people laughed when you had 33Mhz on the FSB...
04:16 chefan funny how fast that develops
04:16 kreegee yeah
04:17 kreegee my router from 2004 or so has 200mhz
04:17 kreegee on the other hand: http://www.harbaum.org/till/nanovm/index.shtml
04:17 kreegee this is pretty sick too
04:19 chefan what i really don't get why you would waste bytes by using java bytecode in an 512Byte eprom
04:19 kreegee no idea
04:20 kreegee i guess it's just the fun of writing a vm
04:20 kreegee i once worked with an asuro
04:20 chefan you can really do a lot with 512bytes sticking to risk architecture assembly language
04:20 kreegee it's not work more than a days work
04:20 kreegee the hardware is so cheap and limited
04:20 kreegee 512?
04:21 kreegee depends
04:21 kreegee probably in assembly
04:21 kreegee but 512bytes is very limited ram
04:21 chefan yup :)
04:22 chefan fitting functionallity in there really can be a brainteaser
04:22 chefan reminds me of my sacred disassembler listing of the trs80 microsoft basic :)
04:23 chefan a microsoft product from times when the MS-People knew their shit
04:23 kreegee hehe
04:24 chefan the optimization was scary. z80 had up to 3byte instructions
04:24 kreegee i guess this was a purchased business unit?
04:25 chefan and by elegantly placing dummy operations and NOP's, the MSBasic developeers managed to use completely different routines in the same memory, just entering with an offset of one or two bytes
04:25 kreegee sounds chinese to me ;)
04:26 kreegee i'm the virtual machine generation
04:26 chefan well, machine code on the Z80 had instructions from 1-3 bytes length
04:26 kreegee yea, so the reused parts of the instructions?
04:26 chefan so imagine the first instruction of some code is 3 bytes in length
04:26 chefan what happens if you enter the routine one byte later?
04:26 chefan ;)
04:27 chefan close to black magic
04:27 kreegee hehe
04:27 chefan and almost impossible to do maintenance
04:27 kreegee well
04:27 kreegee if you only have 512bytes
04:27 kreegee it's not a very big architecture ;)
04:27 chefan to be fair, MSBasic occupied 16K
04:27 kreegee ok
04:28 chefan nevertheless, a fully functional Programming language including all the nessessary hardware support in 16K is still impressive
04:30 kreegee wasn't hardware support just some registers?
04:34 kreegee my asm knowledge is basically inexistant
04:36 chefan depends
04:37 chefan for instance, TRS80 and VideoGenie architecture was almost identical, just that the Tandy worked with Memory access for the tape and the VG used ports
04:37 chefan took me a couple of nights to patch some software for compatibility
04:38 kreegee ok
04:38 chefan of course, the drivers were smaller
04:39 chefan i remember coding a tape copy routine running in the video ram, to circumvent early copy protection :D
04:40 chefan untill they started to release boot loaders that filled the screen with "funny" graphics
04:40 kreegee hehe
04:41 chefan the original copy protection worked by overwriting the routines for writing data to tape
04:41 chefan so there were just the analog way to copy the crap, or find some nice warm space for your code to run in
04:42 chefan the copy program in video ram was nice
04:42 chefan the buffers were in the video ram as well, so you could actually see the code work :D
04:43 chefan at some point i looked away for a second, and when i got back i didn't really understand anymore what people were doing on kernel level
04:44 kreegee ok
04:44 kreegee well
04:45 kreegee i was struggling when i had to do some pointer arithmetics when i wrote a jni wrapper last summer
04:45 kreegee jni is the c->java bridge
04:46 chefan i can imagine that
04:46 kreegee in the end i just wasted lots of memory and copied everything instead of pushing the pointers through to the java side
04:47 chefan as long as you get it unallocated later on somehow, why not
04:47 chefan memory is cheap
04:47 chefan still i am impressed what even nowadays people come up with in regards to small and efficient code
04:47 chefan tinyapps.org is a good example
04:49 kreegee that's my problem, i probably left half of it unallocated
04:49 kreegee but
04:49 kreegee it was only running as a script
04:49 kreegee so memory is freed anyweay
04:49 kreegee in modern os
04:49 chefan yup
04:49 chefan how about a 15k webserver? :D
04:50 kreegee it was a prototype for ibm
04:50 kreegee they sold 5k workstations to small stores
04:50 kreegee with db2
04:50 kreegee the workstation is idle 99% of the day
04:52 chefan hehe, not quite optimal use of ressources
04:52 kreegee no
04:53 kreegee but when they paid so much, i let them actually use their memory ;)
07:17 d|g hi all
08:16 koomi moin
08:20 swemark Morning
08:21 swemark i keep getting this problem, and im guessing it has to do with alias:
08:21 swemark Warning: mysql_query() [http://www.mysql.com/doc]: Duplicate entry
08:21 swemark '1489-222419149' for key 1 in /Users/<removed>/t3lib/class.t3lib_db.php on line 176
08:25 void swemark: enable sqldebug at install tool and say which query fails
08:25 swemark just a sec
08:27 swemark didnt help much
08:27 swemark sam output
08:27 swemark same*
08:28 void no.. it should show failed queries..
08:29 swemark it didnt
08:29 swemark just that same warning message
08:30 swemark deeper than typo3 i suppose?
08:31 void hm..
08:31 void try to clear cache
08:33 swemark no help
08:33 swemark problem occurs when i do anything to the alias field
08:33 swemark remove/update/add
08:33 void hm.. weird
08:33 swemark but just for pages that already exist
08:33 void what is your typo3 version?
08:33 swemark 4.1.6
08:34 swemark used to be 4.1.1 for this site until thursday last week
08:34 swemark when i moved the installation to a new server
08:35 swemark After the move i got the same output in the frontend
08:35 void did you search the bugtracker? maybe your problem is solved at 4.2
08:35 swemark solved that by upgrading realurl
08:44 JCal hey all, the king of noob questions, back with a new edition! I have two servers, one local and one hosted. Everything is pretty much set up the same on both servers, same xtensions, same versions of everything, etc... But one small thing I noticed... my local server, the TV page module has a dotted line surrounding each content element I add, while the main server simply has a title of a...
08:44 JCal ...content element and then the editing actions... anyone know why?
08:44 JCal what did I do?
08:44 JCal cmon, quiz yourself
08:44 swemark theme?
08:45 JCal no themes on either, just basic typo3 backend skin
08:45 swemark oh i know
08:45 swemark !!
08:45 swemark You hacked it! :D
08:45 void JCal: same browser?
08:45 JCal same browser
08:46 JCal ooh, but swemark has a good point... lookin in the ext manager at the typo3 backend skin extension, i see a slightly different list of modified files... hmmmmm
08:46 swemark dadaddaaa!
08:47 swemark if my memory isnt failing miserably there are icon-sets in the skin
08:47 JCal nope, not it... only difference was order in which the login jpg was modified (ya know, big red list of files that were changed from the installed vs current... although i dont know why, since i never changed it)
08:47 swemark change and change back
08:48 swemark JCal: extensions hack extensions :)
08:48 JCal hmm, but this seems to be the style of displaying content elements in the TV module
08:48 JCal oo
08:48 swemark w
08:48 JCal but see, i went and checked all my extension versions, and now both extensions sets match
08:48 JCal hmmm
08:48 swemark screenshots!
08:49 JCal on the way!
08:50 swemark hehe void heres another awsome message... Warning: Unknown: 4294967293 result set(s) not freed. Use mysql_free_result to free result sets which were requested using mysql_query() in Unknown on line 0
08:50 swemark quite a few results...
08:57 JCal see, im such a noob, idk how to get screen shots on PHPFI (if possible)... so here he go:
08:57 JCal http://endoftheweak.com/screenshots/local.jpg
08:57 JCal http://endoftheweak.com/screenshots/hosted.jpg
08:57 swemark hehe
08:57 swemark i know your problem
08:57 JCal ooo
08:57 JCal :D
08:57 swemark one sec
08:58 swemark press advanced functions, then untick show outline
08:58 JCal lol
08:58 swemark :P
08:58 JCal lol
08:58 swemark you can buy me a beer
08:59 JCal damn, i was hoping it was something else, that would give me a clue about some other things
08:59 JCal but that rocks
08:59 swemark hehe
08:59 JCal how do you type in a blushing, slapping forehead, noob smiley?
08:59 JCal all at once?
08:59 JCal so its totally normall for it to be listing that sDEF iDEF field name stuff huh?
09:00 swemark no need, i know how embarrased id be
09:00 JCal haha
09:00 swemark well, thats probably if you haveextended view ticked aswell, not sure though
09:00 swemark ok it wasnt
09:01 swemark oh, yeah
09:01 swemark its perfectly normal
09:01 JCal mean while, other people are like 'im trying to parse variables using realURL with static info tables and dynamically generated front end users and pass those into my javascript that is powering the dynamic XML feed to my flash movie, and this idiot is talking about his outlines?"
09:01 swemark haha
09:02 swemark everyones gotta start somewhere
09:02 JCal haha, yea, thx man, dont worry... ill come up with some more gems for everyone soon ;)
09:02 swemark god only knows how many hours you could've spent finding out that feature
09:02 swemark ill brb
09:02 swemark its that time of the morning
09:04 JCal really, i was just double checking everything, because i do have an acutal problem... i have a content element with 3 images... 1st one just generates an empty img tag, 2nd and 3rd image appear fine... all three work fine on my local machine, but the 1st image wont appear on the server... anyone ever had similar issue?
09:04 JCal html is generated, just img tag is blank
09:05 JCal tried deleting the image in TV module, deleting by hand from the tx_templavoila folder, reuploading, etc... but for some reason, it just doesnt like that image
09:19 JCal any tips on how to make a tv template automatically insert records?
09:19 JCal hmm
09:19 JCal typoscript? where tho?
09:19 JCal how?
09:20 JCal i want my page templates to automatically insert records from another page, ya know, a slick not-in-menu page that holds global content elements
09:22 JCal constants? is that what i need?
09:44 JCal ok, im looking around.... maybe someone can point me in the right direction... i have a page, hidden from menu, where i want to store some content elements for reuse elsewhere... such as a page header... that way an editor can just edit content on that page... i dont want them to have to edit in setup field or anything... now i want my page templates to automatically insert records from that...
09:44 JCal ...page, so that when editors add a new page, they dont have to manually insert records... what is the best way to achieve this?
09:44 JCal should i add some typoscript to the xml for the page template?
09:45 JCal should i be putting typoscript in the page template setup?
09:46 swemark quixk question, what does tx_indexedsearch[ext] = 0 do ?
09:48 JCal doesnt that turn off indexed search?
09:48 JCal what do i know...
09:48 swemark <input name="tx_indexedsearch[ext]" value="0" type="hidden" />
09:48 swemark the whole line
09:48 swemark indexed search does not return pdf results
09:49 swemark altough they are indexed
09:49 swemark figured ext meant external
09:50 JCal oh, hmm
09:56 dokma ries: you here?
10:05 m4rtijn good morning
10:05 swemark morning
10:06 dokma mornin guys
10:06 swemark good morning dokma
10:06 dokma anyone knows how to make extensions dbms independent?
10:06 dokma typo3 should theoretically work with postgres too right?
10:09 JCal i was reading somewhere that it doesnt
10:09 JCal someone was all pissed
10:10 JCal coulda been an old post for all i know
10:11 dokma actually my question is illconstrued
10:12 dokma what I'm doing is writting a site clone extension
10:12 dokma so I guess if I use the standard DB interface
10:12 dokma I'm fine off
10:13 dokma however I need to access a database other than the one in which the current site lives
10:13 dokma cause, obviously I need to copy the database in an OS/DBMS independent way
10:13 dokma so now I'm meditating on that
10:18 dokma 01565 function sql_select_db($TYPO3_db) {
10:18 dokma 01566 return TRUE;
10:18 dokma 01567 }
10:18 dokma isn't that kind of strange?
10:18 nublaii I have a problemm with flexforms where I can't use accented characters
10:19 nublaii or any extended chars for that matter
10:19 dokma nublaii: did you set utf-8?
10:21 nublaii mmm... it's an old 3.8.1 install, and I think it's using 8859-1 as default... upgrading is not an option right now... how can I set it up for that particular flexform?
10:21 nublaii if it can be done that is...
11:00 banban hi there! is it possible create subpages to LATEST tt_news, so i could have 5 LATEST news per subpage? thanks for any answer!
11:00 dokma banban: no
11:01 dokma but all you need
11:01 dokma is to set limit to 5
11:01 dokma and you'll have what you need
11:01 banban dokma: yes if i set limit i get 5 most recent news
11:02 dokma anyone know which variable holds the name of the current database
11:02 banban but i would like to have 20 most recent news devided on 4 subpages
11:02 dokma then what you need
11:02 dokma is this
11:02 dokma page 1 limit 5 offset 0
11:02 dokma page 2 limit 5 offset 5
11:02 dokma etc
11:03 dokma there is a setting in the flexform that skips a number of news items from the start
11:03 dokma that will get you exactly what you need
11:04 dokma although I am wondering why are you splitting them to separate pages
11:04 dokma when you can have them all on the same page
11:04 dokma with pagebrowser
11:10 banban dokma: its not quite what i want... i have to add tt_news plugin to each page manually...
11:12 dokma banban: any reason for that?
11:16 banban dokma: i wanted to say that with your instructions i have to add tt_news plugin to each page manually... or am i wrong and i'dont understanding everything?
11:18 dokma yes
11:18 dokma you understood corectly
11:18 dokma you setup 4 plugins
11:18 dokma each on another page
11:18 dokma you set the same source of news records
11:18 dokma and same limit
11:19 dokma only difference is the offset
11:19 dokma so page 1 would show n ... n+5 news
11:19 dokma page 2 would show n+5 ... n+10 etc
11:20 dokma you could do this with pagebrowser aswell
11:20 dokma you could create 4 pages of type external url
11:20 dokma and in the urls set the offsets you need
11:21 dokma you'd probably need to play around that one a bit
11:21 dokma but a good one to ponder
11:21 tPl0ch Where do I tell the rte not to throw out <img> tags, i dont have a clue where to put the config
11:24 m4rtijn try searching in google for RTE with images
11:24 m4rtijn its about 3 lines typoscript.. but i cant recall
11:25 m4rtijn theres an extra button in the RTE for images.. but its deactivated
11:45 JCal while we are talking about htmlarea RTE... where do you change the CSS file? i have been digging around, and I see in the manual that it is saying you can change the CSS file, but not sure how
11:49 JCal "These properties may be set for each RTE interface configuration object."
11:49 JCal what does that even mean?
11:50 JCal These properties may be modified in the PageTS Config of your page.
11:50 JCal What a lie
11:52 JCal nothing even appears in my page TS Config
11:57 m4rtijn JCal ? change the CSS file?
11:57 m4rtijn what do you mean exactly
11:59 JCal i want to change the path of the default CSS file to my own CSS file, located elsewhere... I see a reference to the property that needs to be changed (contentCSS) but not sure of syntax, and f that goes in the Page TS Config, the Pge Setup, The constants? everyone seems to have a different opinion, but without knowing the right syntax I cant even test the placement
12:00 JCal sorry, i see the *mention of the property that needs to be changed
12:00 JCal in the manual
12:02 JCal so strange, its like... umm... wait, how do i just change the location of the CSS file this extension is using?
12:03 foool Hi I am going to move an existing DB to a new install of typo3 - what should I be aware of?
12:03 foool What folders to I need to move also?
12:03 JCal tinyRTE, very simple... in the ext manager you just click on the extension and change the location in the settings... I see that this one is a bit more complex, and hopefully works better, and I guess I understand that the idea is you could specify different prefs for different users, different pages, etc... great... but, umm... how do you just change the defauly?
12:03 JCal fool, go here:
12:04 JCal um, one sec
12:05 JCal try this, i havent done it, but sounds reasonable:
12:05 JCal http://www.jasonlefkowitz.net/blog1archive/2007/05/backing_up_your.html
12:05 foool jcal thanks i will check it out
12:06 JCal ok, so in theory, you put the new options in the page TS config of the root page...
12:06 JCal hm
12:10 Denyerec Peeep Peeeeep
12:11 Denyerec Dropped a lens at the weekend, so now I am in insurance-chasing mode :(
12:14 Ruudi plugin.tx_wfqbe_pi1.customQuery.1 {
12:14 Ruudi TTNEWSID = TEXT
12:14 Ruudi TTNEWSID.data = tt_news_uid
12:14 Ruudi TTNEWSID.overrideAlways = 1
12:14 Ruudi }
12:14 Ruudi anyone got idea, how could I get tt_news ID as data here? it's used on tt_news SINGLE page
12:14 JCal denyerec, you know the right location/syntax to change the default CSS file for htmlareaRTE
12:14 JCal ?
12:14 Denyerec Jup
12:15 JCal location: root page TSConfig?
12:16 mammut is there an extension for a form which allows the editor to create and change the form but with more possibilities than the typo3 one?
12:17 umc-work yes...
12:17 umc-work quite alot mammut
12:18 umc-work mammut: try http://typo3.org/extensions/repository/view/powermail/1.1.9/
12:18 umc-work haven't used it myself, but I heard it's quite good
12:19 m4rtijn sry JCal i was afk shortly
12:19 JCal no prob m4rtijn
12:19 m4rtijn you can just overwrite the classes from the extension you're using with your css file
12:20 JCal you mean, change the css file it uses as default, no?
12:20 Denyerec JCal - nature is calling, gimme a mo
12:20 m4rtijn nope JCal .. just use youre own css file and overwrite the default classes
12:21 m4rtijn for example tt_news uses a class: single-item .. if u write .single-item {float: left} you overwrite the default css from the extension
12:21 JCal hmm
12:22 JCal but i wanted to make a way so that when editors are using the RTE, they just see my styles instead of the default styles that htmlAreaRTE has
12:22 foool thanx jcal
12:23 JCal np foool, hope it works ;)
12:23 foool me to
12:23 foool haha!
12:23 foool anyone know anything about UDM menus?
12:30 m4rtijn aah, got you now JCal
12:30 m4rtijn :p
12:31 m4rtijn you mean where it says: important, name of person etc?
12:32 JCal yes yes
12:35 m4rtijn JCal: http://typo3.org/documentation/document-library/extension-manuals/rte/0.0.11/view/1/2/
12:39 m4rtijn or just try googling: typo3 add custom style RTE
12:42 JCal thx m4rtijn, was looking around abit, think im getting somehwere, denyerec showed me some sample TS Configs
12:42 JCal i didnt even get the whole concept, but now its clear
12:42 swemark use the force luke
12:44 swemark wow, im quite off, i wrote nano /et in firefox and got pissed that tab didnt work
12:44 m4rtijn your welcome JCal
13:03 banban how could i configure indexed search so it would search in news records ONLY? is there any tutorial for something like that? thanks for any answer!
13:09 ariane Hey there.
13:10 ariane Is there a page describing exactly what's needed to host typo3 on a linux server?
13:10 ariane As in, modules and libraries.
13:11 xsebi ariane : sure on typo3.org
13:12 ariane Yea, skimmed through the documentation, but I couldn't find a page that had that info.
13:12 solshark Hello all. Have anyone already tryed language menu from tt_news with typo3 4.2 RC2? Isn't work for me.
13:18 nublaii I'm using the rtehtmlarea on my typo3 install and I have a problem with the paragraph styles
13:19 nublaii if I edit a regular tt_content element my changes stick
13:19 nublaii if I edit a tt_news content, the same editor loads, but the styles applied to paragraph dissappear...
13:25 ariane xsebi: Would you mind linking me to the specific page? I still can't find it, not even through google.
13:27 xsebi ariane : sorry i dont have a direct link
13:28 xsebi maybe u can find help here : http://typo3.org/documentation/document-library/installation/mfc_doc_suse91instal/0.0.6/view/1/1/
13:30 Recnelis Hey guys, with tt_news - How do I prevent it from wrapping something in a div?
13:30 ariane Thanks xsebi, I'll have a look.
13:30 Recnelis In the template I don't see a div.. but it does get surrounded by one..
13:31 Recnelis I found out myself... :)
13:34 foool how recnelis
13:35 Recnelis foool: Remove the ###CATWRAP_B### and ###CATWRAP_E### markers
13:35 foool thnks
13:35 Recnelis Np :)
13:48 umc-work anyone knows exactly how to fix that RTE-indent compatibility ? not sure exactly what I'm supposed to do
13:54 umc-work has no one changed their compatibility versions ? :(
13:59 ries hey dokma , I was asleep at that time... what's up?
14:16 JCal anyone ever havae a problem with img fields producing a blank img tag?
14:18 maholtz @JCal: sure - do you have that with every image or only with some - which type?
14:18 dokma ries: I had some strange question for you
14:18 dokma but I managed to find it
14:19 JCal maholtz, only some images...
14:19 dokma I think I couldn't find which variable holds the database name of the typo3 installation
14:19 JCal maholtz, but for some reason, i created a content element with 3 image fields, two of them appear, one doesnt
14:19 JCal then i created a new content element, added an img field, just the blank tag comes in
14:19 JCal wierd, some are fine
14:20 maholtz you talk about jpeg? perhaps some of them are cmyk jpegs - afaik they are not supported
14:20 JCal hmmm
14:20 JCal good question
14:20 JCal let me check that
14:21 JCal oh wait, no, its a gif
14:22 JCal maholtz, any idea about what else might cause that?
14:22 maholtz if the images are allways the last, it could be an performance issue
14:23 maholtz check it with perhaps 20 images - which has been renderd correct before
14:23 JCal hmm, seems like it could always be the first
14:24 maholtz so it does not depends on an special image?
14:26 JCal checking, good troubleshooting practice
14:26 epruesse_ I'm trying to get realurl and myth_repository to work together. The latter uses a path as an argument. Do you have any ideas how this could be done?
14:31 JCal got it maholtz, thx, stupid maxW
14:40 niiiuuubiee alo...
14:40 swemark hi
14:41 niiiuuubiee alo swemark
14:41 niiiuuubiee i like to ask something if it is ok
14:41 swemark Go ahead :)
14:41 niiiuuubiee need some help for templaviola..
14:43 Fokez hey, pls is there any fact which makes Typo3 different or more especial than others do ?
14:44 niiiuuubiee on classic setup i found renderObj.stdWrap.wrap
14:44 niiiuuubiee how to use it on templaviola
14:45 niiiuuubiee anyone can help ?
15:05 Recnelis In TT_news do any of u know how to alter the [more] linktext to somethng else?
15:09 nkuttler Recnelis: i patched pi/locallang.xml... not sure if that's ideal though
15:16 Recnelis nkuttler: I'll take a look at it.. a lot of things to configure though..
15:16 Recnelis The irritating thing is that I can't get singleview to work :S
15:19 Recnelis Does anyone have some TS of their TT_news extension? I wanna see what I have to configure.. cuz can't really get it to work the way I wan
15:19 Recnelis want*
15:27 maholtz @JCal? - your typo3 installation can not resize images?
15:28 JCal maholtz, its actually that the image field has some default typoscript defining max width at 200... odd
15:29 m4rtijn Recnelis ? just check the manual on the typo3.org website
15:29 m4rtijn it works without any TS by default.. so you dont have to do anything
15:31 maholtz @Jcal: but your image should be resized by typo3
15:32 JCal hmm, but i dont want it to resize, i want to keep original size (of 202px lol)
15:32 maholtz @recnelis: include static typoscript of tt_news
15:33 maholtz ok, i wondered because you said, that the images has not been shown. So you disabled resizeing?
15:33 Recnelis m4rtijn and maholtz: I've included the static template, and I've checked the manual but can't seem to find why my Singlepid page doesn't work ...
15:33 Ruudi is it somehow ossible to get news uid into TS? url looks like this: http://mydomain.com/?id=6&tx_ttnews[tt_news]=3
15:34 JCal no, i changed the maxWidth in the typoscript and then it showed... i wonder where i can change the default max width
15:34 m4rtijn Recnelis .. create a page, insert plugin - CODE: Single .. then go to the list page.. other settings, and choose the single page there
15:34 m4rtijn you can also do it with typoscript : check manual for syntax
15:39 Barcaro hello!
15:41 maholtz @ruudi: via getData GPvar:tx_ttnews|tt_news
15:42 Ruudi thnx maholtz
15:42 maholtz hope it works:)
15:42 Ruudi i'll check it out soon, as soon as i get my snare sound right lol
15:45 Recnelis ARGH! Why doesn't the freaking link to singlelist page work :@
15:47 m4rtijn did u read what i wrote?
15:49 Recnelis I did.. but first of all I'm using the newest version off TT news.. so there's no code field.. second, I've from the Category chosen the singleview page and added a "Singleview" content on that page.. but it aint working...
15:49 Recnelis http://77.247.64.13/index.php?id=358 <- It just shows a link to it's own page...
15:50 Recnelis The list is on id: 358.. and the singleview on 360
15:51 Recnelis I mean the singleview on id:840
15:51 ariane Are there any known problems with typo3 and php5?
15:51 m4rtijn category chosen singleview? heh??
15:53 m4rtijn just go to the plugin with code: list .. Go to "other settings" and the top it says: "PageId for single news display:"
15:53 m4rtijn just choose your single page there
15:54 m4rtijn im away.. cu tomori
15:58 ariane I get an aweful lot of Cannot modify header information errors on the login screen for typo3. Does anyone know why that is happening? I've read through the documentation, but I can't find a solution. The installation setup didn't notify of any errors either and all the tests seemed to pass in the installation tool. What gives?
16:13 cricket hi
16:13 cricket I'm an idiot. I've hidden my admin account in the backend, just for the heck of it.
16:13 cricket can anyone tell me how I can enter my backend now?
16:14 tPl0ch hello there, http://phpfi.com/311786 <- why is it not showing the email links in the bodytext sections?
16:15 Recnelis cricket: Use the install tool and make a new admin account
16:15 ndee how come sys_language_uid is not set when I set the L-GET-Variable?
16:16 tPl0ch In the rte, the link is well formed
16:16 cricket Recnelis:This means I need ftp-access to the server, right?
16:19 tPl0ch cricket: no, if its still enabled, you can go there by http://yourdomain.com/typo3/install
16:20 tPl0ch otherwise you would need ftp access to the server to enable the install tool
16:20 Recnelis Is there any way to "reset" the page id's? Because my numbers are all the way up at 900+.. because I copied the whole pageroot by mistake :)
16:20 cricket Thanks a lot. I already disabled it.
16:21 cricket So I need to go home first. I really shouldn't stop smoking. This makes me do strange things.
16:21 cricket Thank you very much tP10ch and Recnellis.
16:22 cricket CU
16:28 ndee how can I turn off that for a content element, that it doesn't generate the <a id="239"></a>?
16:30 tPl0ch how can i tell the rte to not strip normal <a href="mailto:(obscured mail address)">?
16:31 tPl0ch inside the <p class="bodytext"> tag
16:33 maholtz_ @ndee: typoscript tt_content -> perhaps dataWrap
16:33 ndee maholtz_: ok, gonna look into that.
16:35 ndee you think that is also the way to turn off all those <!-- CONTENT ELEMENT, uid:76/list [end] --> comments?
16:38 Recnelis Can anyone explain the concept of Constants vs. setup? I apparantly always use the wrong one..
16:39 Recnelis templateFile = fileadmin/templates/Informi-news.html <- That I would think should be in Constants.. but it has to be in setup :S
16:43 snooops Hello guys
16:46 snooops I got a GMENU and i want that my menu pictures are just so long as the word is.
16:46 snooops How can i do that
16:56 Recnelis Can anyone explain the concept of Constants vs. setup? I apparantly always use the wrong one..
16:57 void Recnelis: use can do anything in setup (including those actions you can do in constants)
17:00 Recnelis Ahh.. thx :) I wont use it either than :D
17:00 tPl0ch how can i tell the rte to not strip normal <a href="mailto:(obscured mail address)"> inside the <p class="bodytext"> tag?
17:02 void tPl0ch: it does not strip it by default, AFAIR
17:03 tPl0ch void: but it does in my typo3 installation
17:03 tPl0ch void: http://phpfi.com/311786
17:04 tPl0ch the <a> tag always gets substituted with the <link> tag in the above example
17:05 void yes, that's normal..
17:06 void tPl0ch: do you *really* enter *@*.com, or it is a placeholder for real email?
17:06 Recnelis nkuttler: Are u there?
17:06 tPl0ch void: spambots are everywhere
17:07 void tPl0ch: use (obscured mail address)
17:07 tPl0ch lol
17:08 void i heared that there is a department at microsoft who clean that box from spam
17:08 tPl0ch hahaha
17:08 tPl0ch with 6 Harvard Computing Science absolvents
17:09 Recnelis I should be shot.. :/
17:10 chefan i rather believe they reroute the spam to hotmail users
17:10 chefan and bill whoever they get hold of for the "service"
17:11 floxx am i right? there is no entry for austria in static_languages?
17:11 tPl0ch void: i am getting pretty frustrated with this link thing, because my client wants it to be done __asap__ since the site went online today
17:12 void Recnelis: why?
17:13 void floxx: one sec, i'll check
17:13 void tPl0ch: did you use config.spamProtectEmailAddresses settings?
17:15 floxx void: i couldnt find it ... it's annoying coz my extension uses it for spoken languages of employees and their flags. i added it manually, now it works.
17:16 void floxx: seems so...
17:16 floxx switzerland is mising, too
17:16 void floxx: i thought Australia = English..
17:16 floxx damn :)
17:16 void oops
17:17 void i need to sleep more
17:17 void mixed austria and australia =)
17:17 floxx yes :)
17:17 floxx but its the same "problem": austrian = german
17:18 Recnelis void: I should start reading the manuals a bit closer.. would save me a lot of hair on my head :p
17:18 Recnelis Couldn't understand why TT_news didn't use the category single view uid.. turns out a ts value has to be set first
17:23 nkuttler Recnelis: hm?
17:24 nkuttler to rtfm is always good :)
17:26 Recnelis nkuttler: I found the "correct" way of changeing labels in TT_news.. so I thought I should share it with u :)
17:26 tPl0ch void: yes
17:26 tPl0ch I use spamProtect
17:27 Recnelis nkuttler: http://phpfi.com/311805 <- That's the danish example :)
17:29 nkuttler Recnelis: that looks much better, thank you!
17:29 Recnelis No problemo :o)
17:29 Recnelis And then u wont have a problem if u ever update ur installation :D
17:32 Recnelis Is there any way to "reset" typo3 element id's? Because my numbers are all the way up at 900+.. because I copied the whole pageroot by mistake :) - Looks a little weird that a complete new site has index.php?id=1023
17:43 Recnelis Does anyone know how to increase the teaser length of a news item in TT_NEWS?
17:47 nathanl-wi has anyone else experienced mysql warnings in the Page Tree when upgrading to 4.2?
17:48 nublaii how does the rtehtmlarea work in a different way depending if it is tt_content or tt_news?
17:48 nublaii it's behaving differently on my system
17:48 nathanl-wi I've done the standard things: cleared caches, ran update wizard, updated extensions, etc..
17:49 Provito nathanl-wi, whats the warning?
17:49 nathanl-wi not a valid MySQL result resource
17:50 nathanl-wi in class.t3lib_db.php
17:52 nathanl-wi The odd thing is that the Front End is working just fine.
17:55 Provito usually the update wizard fixes these problems
17:55 Provito have you checked that none of the tables are corrupted
17:59 nathanl-wi DB check doesn't report anything serious... a few missing references, but those have always been there.
17:59 Provito presumably you've logged out and logged in again?
17:59 nathanl-wi yes, cleared browser cache and tried a different browser
17:59 nathanl-wi restarted apache
17:59 Provito perhaps it's an extension affecting the upgrade, goes through those and check
17:59 Provito double check templavoila for example
18:10 nathanl-wi hmm, templavoila was a version off, but an update didn't fix it.. I may start over.
18:13 Ruudi $newsid = $_GET['tx_ttnews']['tt_news']; -- would it be good way to get news id to my extension, or should I use any other method?
18:13 Recnelis Does anyone know how to use the "TEMPLATE_HEADER_LIST" part of my News template?
18:14 Recnelis Because I want only the headers to be shown in the side of my content
18:15 nathanl-wi Ruudi: t3lib_div::_GET()
18:15 nathanl-wi is a better way to use $_GET
18:15 Ruudi mhm thnx
18:18 Recnelis Okay, i've got two problems: 1) How to change the length of the teaser in TT_news - 2) How to show a "TEMPLATE_HEADER_LIST" from the template so that only the title of my news is shown
18:20 nathanl-wi what's the trick for sending typoscript? Recnelis, I have an answer for you.
18:20 nathanl-wi (found it)
18:21 Recnelis nathanl-wi: Then please do share :o)
18:21 nathanl-wi Recnelis: http://phpfi.com/311821
18:22 nathanl-wi That code crops around 100 characters
18:23 Ruudi Recnelis you can check out the setup typoscript from tt_news foledr, there should be all the base settings that you can change
18:23 Ruudi just copy the right parts to your own tt_news template
18:23 Ruudi and change the values
18:24 Recnelis nathanl-wi: Thanx :)
18:24 Recnelis Ruudi: U think I can find question 2's answer there?
18:25 Ruudi you can set the template file for your news plugin
18:25 Recnelis Ruudi: I've already set the template file and changed some things...
18:25 Ruudi make a copy of the template file and change the file in a way you like
18:25 Ruudi you can remove the subheader part from template
18:26 Recnelis the one part I can't find is how to get the "TEMPLATE_HEADER_LIST" shown...
18:26 Ruudi if you want to use header list, use the LIST mode from plugin and edit the LIST part in html template
18:26 Ruudi should do the trick
18:27 Ruudi nathanl-wi $newsid = t3lib_div::_GET('tx_ttnews'); gets me output [tt_news]=25 but how to get just the ID maybe you can help me out on this :?
18:27 Recnelis I use the Template_LIST - Which is the one shown when u choose -> Plugin -> News -> List ... - I use that for my front page items
18:27 Recnelis But I don't know how to make it use TEMPLATE_HEADER_LIST :/
18:28 Recnelis When I choose list TEMPLATE_LIST is always chosen and I can't choose TEMPLATE_HEADER_LIST
18:28 Ruudi i dont remember there being a header list as separate template item :o
18:29 Ruudi i have used list mode with different template files
18:29 Recnelis TEMPLATE_HEADER_LIST starts on line 419 in the v2 template
18:30 Recnelis Ruudi: List mode with different template files? I don't follow.. u've got different template files for ur news?
18:30 Ruudi yes
18:32 Ruudi there are header list indeed, but i take it as alternative to use, as there is no head template option in plugin settings
18:32 Ruudi alternative list view...
18:32 Ruudi i use different template files, in some sites more than 5 different templates are used to get all the layout designs i need
18:38 Recnelis Ruudi, so I should perhaps use different tt_news templates for different pages+
18:38 Recnelis ?
18:39 Ruudi if you want different looking LIST layouts then yes, at least that's what I have done, to have list with subheader or without subheader
18:39 Ruudi maybe you can disable subheader rendering by TypoScript not sure
18:43 Dragan This may be a simple question, but as a beginner, I'm not afraid to ask:)-- Here's the situation: I create a new page as a root of new site. I create a simple text content element. Now, how can I reference this content element in typoscript?
18:49 Denyerec using the CONTENT or RECORD constructs.
18:49 Denyerec Consult the TSRef for those two things :)
18:49 Denyerec And come back here when you have done so, and are confused enough by what they say.
18:55 Dragan Danyerec .. thanks :) .. I'm already diving into the references, I'll come to the surface when I find the pearl
18:55 Dragan or when I'm out of oxygen :p
18:56 Recnelis This sux.. :/
18:56 Recnelis Can't find a proper way to do the news "show headers" only thing...
18:56 Recnelis Just don't want extra templates... hmm..
19:12 foool hi, looking for a horizontal drop down menu (expandable) which is a good one?
19:14 just2b use any css list menu
19:17 tsrepadmin Hi, could you say, that TYPO3 follows the SOA paradigma ?
19:17 just2b not v4
19:42 JCal anyone want to peek at this TS Config for htmlArea RTE and see if they can tell why all my text is just getting "p" styles, and none of the spans I used in the RTE are appearing?
19:42 JCal http://phpfi.com/311836
19:48 tsrepadmin just2b which version is :-) ? v5 ?
19:49 tsrepadmin By the way, could you tell me why my field in my extension is editable by creating but afterwards not any more?
20:13 just2b tsrepadmin sry have been away, still got questions?
22:55 mac3 is there a hook when logging out via the extension "newloginbox" ?
23:01 chefan_ to do what?
23:01 mac3 to clear some session variables
23:02 chefan_ there is a hook in the general authentication section
23:02 chefan_ nlb uses a button with post to log out?
23:02 chefan_ i don't remember right now
23:03 chefan_ if so, there is a very convenient hook named CheckDataSubmission
23:03 chefan_ which could suit your needs
23:03 mac3 ok
23:03 mac3 thank ya
23:04 chefan_ np
23:05 federico__ anyone familiar with PHP/IIS errors?
23:05 federico__ what's that? http://rafb.net/p/Y2uon669.nln.html
23:06 federico__ missing write persmissions or what?
23:07 chefan yep
23:09 chefan what kind of winblows?
23:15 void Denyerec: ?
23:15 Denyerec void
23:15 void Denyerec: need your help again..
23:15 Denyerec Shoot
23:16 void Denyerec: "A map is an interesting part of my data set, but so is the actual planet it represents." what means "but so is"?
23:16 Denyerec Um.
23:16 Denyerec Another way of wording it would be:
23:17 Denyerec "A map is an interesting part of my data set, and the planet it represents is also interesting.
23:17 Denyerec "but" usually is used as an excuse, or to explain the other side of an arguement or story
23:17 Denyerec "The donut looked very tasty, but it was too hot to eat"
23:18 Denyerec so I'm not sure if "but so is..." is the best wording for that sentance.
23:18 Denyerec What they're trying to say is that the map is interesting, and the planet is interesting too.
23:18 void aha, thanks
23:18 void and one more
23:18 Denyerec You could swap "but" for "and" quite reasnobly in your example.
23:19 void "This is a fantasy, so Ill spread the net wide." is "spread the net" a phrase?
23:19 Denyerec Yes.
23:19 Denyerec a "euphamism"
23:20 Denyerec you would spread your (fishing) net wide to catch a lot of fish
23:20 Denyerec So you can say "I was trying to find a suitable candidate , so I spread the net wide and asked a lot of varied questions"
23:20 Denyerec or... something :)
23:21 void in russian we can say "unroll lips"
23:21 Denyerec hahaha
23:21 Denyerec Interesting...
23:22 Denyerec I am going to test drive Rainbow6-Vegas
23:22 Denyerec I doubt it will delight me as much as Project Reality, but we will see.
23:23 void =)

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